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 No.11619

>It's difficult. They immediately become the subjects of lolicon fetishism. In a sense, if we want to depict someone who is affirmative to us, we have no choice but to make them as lovely as possible. But now, there are too many people who shamelessly depict [such heroines] as if they just want [such girls] as pets, and things are escalating more and more.
t. Hayao Miyazaki

What is YOUR response, moeshitter?

 No.17632

I can't believe Miyazaki looks like that
I kneel, Chadyiaki

 No.17633

>>11619
Not a moeshitter, but my, and probably thier take, would just be: Ignore them since they aren't physically hurting children, and move forward with your life not being controlled by a minority

 No.17634

>>11619
>Anime made for lonely incels, starring kawaii talking sextoys
Well…i don't feel surprised

 No.17636

>>17634
>has never seen a ghibli film

 No.17637

>>17636
I was talking about moecrap

 No.17639

>>17637
But Ghibli is moecrap, also for DBZ nigs trying to get into some moral ground because moe is trash, DBZ is garbage that holds itself for nostalgia because you were exposed to this garbage when you were a kid.
Stop watching anime it's all trash, with no exception.

 No.17640

>>17633
The trend could be considered worrying only because of the society that compels people to act like this or that way, not because of their actions per se. Obsessive "anti-degenerate" shit is just indiivudalist moralizing.

 No.17641

>>17639
anime is either moe or dbz got it.

 No.17642

moechad here, miyazaki is right, lolifags are annoying and should really stop being fags but imo they should be largely left alone or not antagonised as some sort of moral criminal since they aren't hurting anyone except by being creeps, that and also >>17640 is right, these things are a symptom and will not go away until the root problems are done away with, which are the cultural issues associated with capitalism. faggots moralising issues like this are wasting their time and energy, bonus since they are participating in the circus propped up.

 No.17643

>>17639
>ghibli is moecrap

Ah I see we have an edgelord

 No.17644

>>17640
Pedophilia can spread and also carries increased risk of child abuse, so it is a societal issue in and of itself

 No.17648

The people who compare Studio ghibli works to fetishistic moeshit just might be the sort of people whom Miyazaki has in his mind as shameless.

 No.17649

>>17648
I think he might be low-key referring to Hideaki Anno lol

 No.17655

>>17644
You're not wrong that pedophilia can spread, but when it comes to increasing child abuse, the pedophilia spreading through physical activity is what we've only seen as what increasing child abuse. Pedophilia spreading through cartoons is still up in the air that it links to increase in child abuse.

>>17640
Fair take. That's why society should stop overly demonizing pedophiles. If we want to treat/cure pedophilia, (the latter being very acomplishable with medicine), we need pedophiles to be wiling to comeout, something they can't do since of how much of a social suicide it is.

 No.17659

miyazaki is a closet lolifag I can't be arsed to find the source now but there is definitely more than just "another director saying he is"

 No.17660

>>17655
people will fuck anything that they can derive pleasure from, simple as.

 No.17663

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JaCHAD DROPKICKS JIRSHIT

 No.17666

What an absolute garbage thread.

 No.17669

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Someone edit JirenChad hanging pedophiles with his THICCCHEEKS

 No.17739

>>17669
Looks like your call went on deaf ears. Turns out it's not so chad to get angry at people who despite masturbating to drawings of "children" (the drawings being a cocaction of everything inside the artist mind) don't go out and molest children, interesante

 No.17740

>>17739
>muh symbology not atoms
>muh not every pedophile molests children
>muh therefore pedophilia should be accepted and normalized

 No.17741

>>17655
People will become attracted to intentionally sexual stimuli when they would not otherwise be attracted to it, fetishes don't just pop out of nowhere and for example violent videogames actually do increase aggression. Not many people will play a violent videogame and then go kill someone, but child molestation is more prevalent and it's definitely not unreasonable to suspect that lolicon can encourage people exposed to it to develop pedophilic thoughts and ideas and make it more likely that, for example, they may then seek out CSME (CP). Pedophilia is inherently dangerous and harmful unlike most fetishes, just like rape fantasies or sexual sadism.

 No.17742

>>17740
>muh symbology not atoms
>muh not every pedophile molests children
There's no evidence found that cartoon pedophilia links to real life child sexual assault. Provide an actual argument instead of crying.

>muh therefore pedophilia should be accepted and normalized

Never said that. Shows you how awful of a person you are when you're instinct of being called out as a loser you need to call others pedophiles so you can look like you have morals.

>>17741
>People will become attracted to intentionally sexual stimuli when they would not otherwise be attracted to it
Then work around it by honing down on what triggers it and work around it. I doubt that its as simple as looking at furry stuff making you a furry since pedophilia attraction is power imbalance.

>Not many people will play a violent videogame and then go kill someone

That's because violent video games, while yes leading to temporary aggression, don't bring out violence because its material conditions that brings it out.

>child molestation is more prevalent and it's definitely not unreasonable to suspect that lolicon can encourage people exposed to it to develop pedophilic thoughts and ideas and make it more likely that, for example, they may then seek out CSME (CP)

I don't find it reasonable since there's nothing to compel them to consume the non-cartoon stuff, and also it's more than the content to lead them to do such an action, (similar in the outlook in the violent video games).

 No.17743

The problem with extreme pornography even of the cartoon sort might be that if people's sense of normative sexuality is formed through constant exposure to misogynistic and degenerate media, their real life, as in physical, practice of sexual activities could be affected adversely since their minds' conception of typical sexual behavior is shaped by potentially perverse fantasy that no one would want to be made into reality. Again, usually leftists accept that the bourgeoisie weaponize popular media for reactionary propaganda, like the American MIC's and glowies' influence in superhero movies, so is it much of a leap to extend this to sexually explicit content and video games? Of course such content doesn't necessarily have to be banned, but it's silly to pretend media doesn't have effect on the consciousnesses of people

 No.17744

>>17742
>There's no evidence found that cartoon pedophilia links to real life child sexual assault
There is not evidence to the contrary, there is evidence that erotic material increases sexual desire towards the subject of the erotic material
>Then work around it by honing down on what triggers it and work around it
Yes, by banning pedophilic erotica.
>That's because violent video games, while yes leading to temporary aggression, don't bring out violence because its material conditions that brings it out.
It increases aggressive thinking and displays of aggression, so it is not all that unlikely that it encourages aggressive actions. The same can be said of lolicon, which is highly sexualized depictions and distorted depictions of children, and pedophilia.
>I don't find it reasonable because I am a pedophile and will cast doubt on any argument you make very pointedly without an argument of my own and not realize it displays a bias on my part
Yes I know
>also it's more than the content to lead them to do such an action
Yes but starting to think of children sexually, and being reminded of this sexualization of children obviously carries risks that this thinking will be promoted in a person and that may lead to them committing sexual abuse against children, it would be very easy to go find child pornography compared to say, going up to a child and beating them physically for obvious reasons

 No.17745

>>17743
Yeah exactly. It's not like human being's minds are immune to the effects of stimuli, to suggest they are would be insane and ideologically dogmatic

 No.17748

>>17743
I don't know if America MIC's and glowies' influence in superhero movies is your example and then there is barely anyone who actually wants to fight in the war, it actually kind of goes against your point honestly.

 No.17749

>>17744
None of what you said is true.

 No.17751

>>17639
>attempted to prebunk dbz because it is the most diverse community let alone anime community
hit the gym fatty

 No.17753

>>17744
>There is not evidence to the contrary
https://web.archive.org/web/20140118043546/https://cphpost.dk/news/report-cartoon-paedophilia-harmless.2255.html

>>Then work around it by honing down on what triggers it and work around it

>Yes, by banning pedophilic erotica.
Prove it.

>It increases aggressive thinking and displays of aggression, so it is not all that unlikely that it encourages aggressive actions

There's been studies on it you pseud. Like the 10 year study finding no link (https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/cyber.2020.0049?journalCode=cyber). I recommend watching Adam Ruins epsidoe on the topic, or skim the sources (https://www.trutv.com/shows/adam-ruins-everything/articles/adam-ruins-games)

>>I don't find it reasonable because I am a pedophile and will cast doubt on any argument you make very pointedly without an argument of my own and not realize it displays a bias on my part

>Yes I know
Must be awful to know you in the real world. You get things wrong constantly because you assume more than a Austrian economic, but instead of folding your arms and pouting like an Austrian economic when you're wrong, you instead call others pedophiles.

>>also it's more than the content to lead them to do such an action

>Yes but starting to think of children sexually,
But we're talking about drawings here. If they were being attracted to physical children then we'd find similar results in studies conntecting physical cp to child sexual assault.
>and being reminded of this sexualization of children obviously carries risks that this thinking will be promoted in a person and that may lead to them committing sexual abuse against children
More baseless assuming

Also, not that anon: >>17749

>>17743
The frustration of the criticism against porn isn't the analysis of bourgeois ideology inserted into, (like blacked porn for instance, porn that objectifies black people), it's the analysis that there's some inherit degeneration behind it, (rubbish analysis massively pushed by right wingers so they can build onto a attack on Jews). The only reason leftists deny that porn consumption doesn't effect you is to avoid legitimizing the rubbish analysis, which is a bad approach since all media affects you, even if the effect is limiting like what >>17748 comments.


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