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 No.3388[View All]

Not much of a vtuber fan, I only occasionally watch clips, but I'm saddened to hear that even something as innocent as the vtuber sphere has been infected with politics and will breed new reactionaries out of lonely people with nothing better to do. Is no form of escapism safe from politics anymore?
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 No.15053

>>15052
We really do live in a society (of the spectacle)

 No.15054


 No.15066

>>15052
Im pretty sure consoomerism wont kill us its either fascism nukes or climate change but not watching people larp as japanese cartoon characters online

 No.15076

>>3388
Nothing has been safe from politics. It's the most convenient form of "intellect" while indulging the primal need for drama.
That's all it is, schoolboy gossip for adults.
It explains why there's more grown men whom believe in flat earth and reject actual NASA pictures

 No.15077

>>15052
it's production that create consumption.

 No.15091

>>15052
this is my multiverse of madness

 No.15116

i'm a vtuber and i treat it as early transhumanism plus acting. it's fun to be my idealized self and get better at acting and being social to people. i'm building a small community where we talk about shit and play games, it's fun. i shut down the parasocial stuff/gfe stuff hard though, so i wont ever grow big but im okay with that.

when I can upload myself into a robotic body it'll be good

 No.15117

>>15116
>i shut down the parasocial stuff/gfe stuff hard though, so i wont ever grow big but im okay with that.
good for you, unironically

 No.15129

>>15116
That's good and all
But i really hope your avatar isn't an anime girl
I saw some vtubers unironically try to do the shitty whiny anime girl voice and one even faked a engrish accent
I can not fathom why people would like that

 No.15140

>>15129
you dont need to act like an anime girl if your avatar is one you know

 No.15162

>>15129
>>15140
yeah, the avatar can be little more than a glorified profile pic, it's the way the vtuber interacts that really matters.

 No.15173

>>15129
Some Vtubers are amateur voice actors which is why some put on a whole persona and manner of speaking.

 No.15175

>>15173
That explains a lot and why it sounds so unnatural, because voice acting isn't just doing a high pitched voice
But that really doesn't explain when some fake a japanese accent though
Not sure what that accomplishes other than trying really hard to make people think you're japanese

 No.15611

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Most normal EN vtuber.

 No.16655

pssst
hey, kid
got any rrats?

 No.16656

>>15611
And I thought I had issues with my looks.

 No.16662

>>16656
I can sympathize with it even though it seems odd how detailed these requests are. So many photos can just make you look real bad. u_u

 No.16670

>>16662
for context, as a big fan of this one, she was an outcast kid that got really obsessed with Japan as a tween, brute forced her way into learning Japanese by talking with Japanese people online, became a big NicoNico streamer, then went to Japan to become a jpop idol where she eventually got fucked over by her manager (all while still underage), then forced to move back to her home country and scrape by since she left to be an j-idol before finishing high school, long story short she developed severe western and Japanese beauty standards mind worms.

 No.16671

>>15611
She worded herself too tritely (the issues of titter's 400 character limit) but honestly understandable if you put yourself in their shoes.

 No.16673

>>16670
For a second I thought you were talking about Applemilk

 No.16676

vtuberism is some next-level lunacy, i think it might even be worse than furfags and ponyfags

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 No.16678

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 No.16679

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Okay, I kinda fell out of the loop with this vtuber hype train and recently decided to find out what the noise is all about.
I want to make it clear first that I don't have a stick up my arse when it comes to the new forms of escapism, or at least I think so. But this vtuber trend is honestly a next step for the simp industry. And I mean the simp industry as in real industry, just like car industry and steel industry. Only this industry is built on monetizing male alienation. Because this is now a full fledged industry with its own corporations it has massive consequences because these corporations are now interested in increasing male alienation to keep donations stream growing, and more so because that now have the means to lobby and bribe and influence policy. We can also see an influx of new capital into this industry and increasing competition and as a result a downward pressure on the rate of profit, which would make all these corporations even more aggressive in their policies to expand the market by increasing amount of alienated simps.
Man, does the future looks fucking bleak..

 No.16680

>>16679
yeah it sucks that vtubers got coopted by corporations trying to turn them into idols, its been said since day 1

 No.16681

>>16680
you're saying this as if vtubers weren't aimed at simps form the beginning with these animegrill larping antics

 No.16682

>>16679
the one positive is that it shreks IRL roasties so that mid girls can drain money from simps.

 No.16683

>>16682
I'm waiting for a voice changing software to advance enough so that I can get in on the simp fleecing too.

 No.16684

>>16679
I'm mostly interested in how the industry will mutate or die in the with the wars, recessions, etc of the 2020s/30s, considering it's so directly tied to the extra income of lonely professionals/wagies, with the exception of sponsorships from various sponsorships

 No.16686

I find vtubers enjoyable

 No.16708

>>16679
>>16684
I find it hard to believe the companies will survive in their current form for much longer; just Rushia being fired already rocked the boat quite a bit, and given that eventually we're gonna see vtubers dying, getting tired and quitting, etc., it seems like a given that the current structure of vtubing (or at least strictly japanese vtubing) is unsustainable. I can't see the market growing that much more anyway; english-speaking vtubers might still have quite a ways to go, but for languages with smaller demographics there is only so many people interested in watching vtubers (and its hard to believe many people will learn a language just to understand what a streamer is speaking). Also, after a certain point (which I believe we have reached already to a certain degree) any new vtuber that debuts just cannibalizes on the audience of established talent. Streaming is a very time-consuming hobby to watch, and there are only so many hours on the day. Hololive already struggles quite a bit with people streaming on the same timeslot, afaik (and Nijisanji just doesn't give a fuck and has a billion vtubers associated with them). Maybe advertising money can prop things up for a while, but stricly speaking money coming from simps is a very limited revenue source.

That being said, random people using the software to stream without having to show their faces or for roleplaying a character is probably going to stay for good. It's relatively easy to setup, cheap, and safer than alternatives, if you can avoid getting doxxed.

 No.16709

>>16708
I genuinely have no idea how you think that vtubing will die. The prospect of being a whatever the fuck and streaming whatever the fuck and not having to use your real face is honestly so enticing that I'd be shocked if vtubing dies.

 No.16753

>>16709
Obviously I meant corporate (japanese) vtubing, which is an industry and thus subject to all the problems capitalism is known for and as such is by no means guaranteed to survive (at least in its current form); randos using avatars to stream will pretty much never die, as I said:
>That being said, random people using the software to stream without having to show their faces or for roleplaying a character is probably going to stay for good. It's relatively easy to setup, cheap, and safer than alternatives, if you can avoid getting doxxed.

 No.16754

>>16708
well who knows maybe vtubing as a industry will die and it will become a form of living on the internet
Larping as an anime girl is an old art

 No.16757

>>16753
Nothing wrong with using an avatar for streaming, but larping as an anime character should get you ridiculed

 No.16759

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>>16757
>larping as an anime character should get you ridiculed

 No.16772

>>16757
It's more accurate to call it performance art or live acting.

 No.16807

>>16757
this retard calling an exclusively online thing "larp"

 No.16820

vtubing was fun until h*lolive ruined it honestly, i'd tune into a couple of mmbk's streams and it'd be nice

 No.16826

>>16807
>pretending to be an anime character
>exclusively online
Are you retarded?

 No.16828

>>16826
who are you quoting

 No.16846

>>3441
I don't know if this is cope or just ignorance, but straying from the party line will get you socially crucified in China even if you aren't arrested. You only need to slip up once on a current event.

That the company isn't protecting them is a pretty serious issue though.

 No.16847

>>16679
This is absolutely true, and in some cases backed by major, even state level, backing.

 No.16848

>>3392
Are you really saying you don't understand the situation you just described? Every company is beholden to the CCP, bilibili is no exception. When they pull a stream for saying something off script the cause is always obvious, in this case it's something that contradicts the CCP's official messaging. This is an action that really does have real world consequences.

 No.16849

>>16826
Live Action Role Playing (larping) is something you do outside in cosplay. Vtubers can't holographically project the Live2D / pngtuber onto themselves out and about, nor are they in character while at the store or whatever.

 No.16856

>>16846
Then why aren't the people voicing anti lockdown positions getting excoriated

 No.16857

>>16849
>Vtubers can't holographically project the Live2D / pngtuber onto themselves out and about,

Yet. Unfortunately.

 No.16870

>>16857
normal

 No.16921

Pekora bought a monkey.

 No.16923

>>16921
pekora has bought a resident of si/b/eria


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