No.21501
I can’t believe it ended at chapter 119, people were saying that Aot would end with 139 chapter because of symbolism, but it looks like they were wrong.
No.21502
go to /anime/ where you belong
No.21503
>>21501It actually would’ve been better to just end off there, or continue with a storyline where plot armour doesn’t allow eren to continue the rumbling. It would open up a lot more questions and a lot of better solutions to the titan problem, like just altering the DNA of eldians to not pass on the shit in the founders spinal fluid to their kids. Re education from a neutral perspective on the islands history for all, tests to resolve issues with titan abnormalities that have them attack other eldians regardless if wether they’re still under the influence of Ymir, or just simply having more to say about WMDs in warfare. It goes on and its a shame the author wanted to do an evangelion in the dumbest way possible
No.21504
>>21503If I understood everything correctly Eren had absolute control over all descendants of Ymir, it’s kind of stupid that he didn’t use to idk help them by improving their bodies, and life’s, helping with disabilities, longer life’s etc, found it kind of annoying how story decided to just remove the fantastical element from the world, which seems to be a common trope among media. But tbh I think the story suffered mostly due author seemingly being sympathetic to fascism and thus refusing to do actually interesting things and solutions. Also kind of fucked up how quickly Aot fans seemingly adopted the in universe fascist stance on the conflict.
No.21505
Also ngl the headshot scene was 🤌🤌 10/10 moment really liked how the head fell right into Zekes arms, and how the spine grew out of the head, the ideology is dogs shit but the execution and plot twists were pretty good in my opinion.
No.21506
>>21504He didn’t manga wise he’s straight up dead and lost control to Ymir completely, and this carries over to the show. There’s a reason for why he couldn’t imagine a future for himself where the rumbling doesn’t occur despite being aware of the fact that everyone around him were pushing for better options.
No.21511
>>21508Doesn't he also get cucked
No.21512
>>21511Can’t be cucked by Jean if you die a virgin first
No.21513
>>21512but he reincarnates or some shit
No.21514
>>21510he wrote a bunch of imperial propaganda, we can call it terrible
No.21515
>2 AoT threads in siberia
>Already one in /anime/
really?
No.21517
I don't see why a story can't have bad outcomes for the people involved. It neither needs to have one side getting what they want nor does it need a deep message to convey. Can't a story simply be the unfolding of events and the audience gets to experience a fictional world?
No.21518
>>21517imo lots of people consume stories for escapism purposes so shitty outcomes kinda defeats the point.
No.21519
>>21518AoT is a tragedy and lives up exactly to what the genre is about. If people were looking for the good guys to win then they tried to find that in the wrong series. The critique about Eldia not being saved also wrongfully assumes that the story is about Eldia being saved.
No.21520
>>21517That’s fine, but you can’t say that for AOT for two reasons.
The ending we got was forced and out of synch with what would actually happen given the authors context for the worlds setup. Eren is fucking dead and the power of the founding titan is long since gone well before he has any reason to be able start a rumbling.
The fact that the rumbling occurs and how it changes the planet still fucks over any sense of consistency and manages to be a considerably less satisfying ending than if Eldia was straight up raised to the ground and the story ended off there.
The ending was shit and poorly thought out. There’s no excuse for Eren, his actions, the retconning and the plot armour it took to even create such a terrible conclusion. Hell I haven’t even touched into the fact that outside of the literal death of paradis island, basically anyone that didn’t already hate Eldia now has zero reason to not want to kill off the remaining Eldians, wether or not they’re even aware that plenty don’t support Erens actions.
No.21521
>>21520there's also the fact that the story constantly cocksucks eren and lionizes his edgy retard behavior, it's not like the warning signs weren't there
No.21523
>>21518>people haven't consumed tragedy for escapism/catharsis since fucking civilization existedtumblr brain moment
No.21524
the pure titans have been wiped out during the time skip, but in theory there could be some left since eldia was sending them all the time. also in my opinions it should have ended with eren succeeding, but paradis still getting destroyed but from inside due to the fascist who took over, but Isayama is a fascist himself so he of course did nit do that and would rather create an ending which validates the kill or be killed ideology of the fascists and his newly ideologically open segment of audience.
No.21582
>>6734Attack on Titan feels like someone had a gigantification + vore/stepping fetish and also liked anime a lot, so they combined the most tropey shonen anime action with the fetish, following an inane plotline. I mean it worked in terms of popularity so you can't claim it's a failure.
No.21585
>>21522Escapism is for boredom. Tragedy is entertaining.
No.21586
>>21582usually people with that fetish make the giants hot. Nost titans look like they were taken out of some fascist propaganda poster which makes sense since they are seemingly are the stereotypical foreign animalistic subhuman bugmen horde that is only there to destroy.
No.21587
>>21586>usually people with that fetish make the giants hot. Not necessarily, just mainstream. And I mean the main protagonist Titan-shifters are relatively better looking than the brainless NPC-normie titans.
>they are seemingly are the stereotypical foreign animalistic subhuman bugmen horde that is only there to destroy.LMAO, but even in those depictions there is the interracial element.
No.21836
>>6734Dunno if it's fash but it's way over-rated
No.22230
>>21638The actual lesson is not to be naïve and commit to a successful genocide. Their punishment is to be stuck in limbo for not going all in.
No.22252
>>22251How many people praised the ending of One Piece?
No.22253
>>22252I'm sure a lot of people are going to when it happens.
No.22254
It’s entertaining, but under any scrutiny, the story is retarded, which shouldn’t be surprising considering the author is an unabashed imperial Japan apologist.
The fan interpretations solidify how much he fumbled the story, with every person seemingly parroting either:
1. The story was about how war is inevitable and the cycle will always persist, no matter what we do, so let’s just hold hands and peacefully walk into the inevitable knowing we’re good people.
or the more concerning
2. The story was a cautionary tale that you should always complete genocides of your enemies as they are ontologically evil and must exterminated.
No.22257
>>22254natural result of being a liberal. The ideology doesn’t really have anything to offer to refute fascism, other than “it’s not cool to kill” and “actually you are the real homos/jews” so it’s only natural that author failed to offer a real reason why Eren’s plan was wrong other than attacking Eren’s character by making him act in a pathetic way in the end, kind of like how liberals attack Trump or Putin by calling them gay. Also I am 💯 confident that author has fascist sympathies which naturally got in his way once he decided that “billions must die” isn’t cool actually.
No.22269
>>22257Yeah he’s absolutely a mild crypto fash at heart.
He openly designed a character after an imperial Japan invasion commander, noting that said war criminal was “frugal and respectable”. He also denied comfort women in Korea being a real problem, as well as saying that Korea occupation benefited Korea in the long run cause their population increased, and Japan was not anywhere near as bad as Nazi germany.
No.22270
>>22253If WW3 and/or climte change aren't killing us before
No.22894
>>22257i've seen a theory from fd signifier that isayama was just shitting up the manga on purpose and the anguish and imposter syndrome he was feeling led him to the contradictory and pessimistic worldview he holds rather than any political ideology. he's probably a right-ish edgy liberal
No.22895
I wish it ended before the time skip.
No.22950
>>22940If you don't want the Embed to vanish if the site has a glitch, post the URL and name, moron.
>There is Nothing Good About Attack on Titan's Endinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqyFK0-nq3w No.23813
Ending ruined all the themes, show was ruined as soon as Eldia didn't follow through on the Azoumabuto Clans plans.
Could have done the rumbling pre warning, then attempt diplomatic relations with Nations who were colonized by Marley, create an anti-colonial alliance and show discrimination against the Eldians is not needed, with the ending following the themes of a better world rid of imperialism or genocide, not bullshit fascist movement on the Eldian Island which ruined the direction of the story, but would've been good if the volunteers won that battle.
Bad ending, nice anime.
No.23814
Zeke was right
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