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Is Attack on Titan fash?
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change my mind


i don't get it


Nah not even close. Eren has ZERO fucking choice or freedom throughout the entirety of the manga and it took me a while to realize how disgusting and barbaric this mans existence actually is. He was born into a family of eugenists on an island whom the entire planet wanted destroyed for legitimately good reasons, surrounded by man eating monsters whom comprise of his own people all stacked on top of gaining the foresight into events like the rumbling, the fucked up history of eldia, how many deaths he would be responsible for and knowing he couldn’t do shit about it beyond cry and complain. Like fuck I can understand why people hate him, personally I think he’s more of a slave than a protagonist but to say he actually wanted anything more than to leave Eldia to live independently is a joke


Watch Aria the animation instead


if you think k-on and flcl are bad you probably have the bad taste required to think the aria anime isn't boring stiffly-drawn washed-out-colors garbage (the manga looks good tho I'll admit, not my thing but immensely more expressive)


They're still good though. Only the nostalgiafagging is annoying.


I said no such thing about flcl. Also, you sound like the type of person to drop Steins;gate in episode 5 because "nothing is happening", sometimes you have to bear the set up until the payoff anon


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K-On! is overrated SoL, but if you like it you like it, and the animation at the very least is pretty good, especially for its time.
>hating on FLCL


Here me out, the rumbling is a metaphor for air strikes. Some members of the AOT community have suggested that the rumbling was a representation of the bomb in Japan but honestly I think it was meant to represent air strikes much more. For one thing most of the damage inflicted onto Japan didn’t actually come from being nuked, it was the mass bombardment from the air raids that shortly came after, bombs that not only exploded but incinerated everything in their path, similar to how the colossal titans don’t just trample but burn everything beneath them. It’s also easy to point out how the rumbling occurs shares a striking parallel to the damage inflicted on urban spaces. Both involve not one but the repeated destruction of public spaces from above, both see basically nothing left by the time the bombs stop falling, most of the damage dealt is lethal but uncoordinated since its covering a broad area rather than a specific point meaning many civilians and wildlife in the region are disposed to indiscriminate death. Coincidentally that wall the Titans formed shares another component of air strikes being its easy to evade the oncoming damage just as long as your either underground, and the fear coming in that inevitably the destruction you’re about to witness will inevitably catch up with you even if you’re far away


Why do aot fags think eren caused the rumbling. Mf died before he could do jack shit anything, for Ymir and for the plot of the show in general.


I can’t believe it ended at chapter 119, people were saying that Aot would end with 139 chapter because of symbolism, but it looks like they were wrong.


go to /anime/ where you belong


It actually would’ve been better to just end off there, or continue with a storyline where plot armour doesn’t allow eren to continue the rumbling. It would open up a lot more questions and a lot of better solutions to the titan problem, like just altering the DNA of eldians to not pass on the shit in the founders spinal fluid to their kids. Re education from a neutral perspective on the islands history for all, tests to resolve issues with titan abnormalities that have them attack other eldians regardless if wether they’re still under the influence of Ymir, or just simply having more to say about WMDs in warfare. It goes on and its a shame the author wanted to do an evangelion in the dumbest way possible


If I understood everything correctly Eren had absolute control over all descendants of Ymir, it’s kind of stupid that he didn’t use to idk help them by improving their bodies, and life’s, helping with disabilities, longer life’s etc, found it kind of annoying how story decided to just remove the fantastical element from the world, which seems to be a common trope among media. But tbh I think the story suffered mostly due author seemingly being sympathetic to fascism and thus refusing to do actually interesting things and solutions. Also kind of fucked up how quickly Aot fans seemingly adopted the in universe fascist stance on the conflict.


Also ngl the headshot scene was 🤌🤌 10/10 moment really liked how the head fell right into Zekes arms, and how the spine grew out of the head, the ideology is dogs shit but the execution and plot twists were pretty good in my opinion.


He didn’t manga wise he’s straight up dead and lost control to Ymir completely, and this carries over to the show. There’s a reason for why he couldn’t imagine a future for himself where the rumbling doesn’t occur despite being aware of the fact that everyone around him were pushing for better options.


he was an incel


An incel and a moron you mean


>refuses to fuck mikasa for entire manga


A lot of it is because of this. Again the author isn’t a terrible writer, just terrible at writing endings and should’ve had someone else write the conclusion to AOT where eren stays dead, or something way more brutal with eren alive and vilified along with all of his supporters with the world permanently fucked


Doesn't he also get cucked


Can’t be cucked by Jean if you die a virgin first


but he reincarnates or some shit


he wrote a bunch of imperial propaganda, we can call it terrible


>2 AoT threads in siberia
>Already one in /anime/


Aot has a completely trash ending but what adds fuel to the flame was how pointless it was. From the manga it’s told his actions were to keep eldia safe, but this is far from the case. Causing a rumbling does anything except keep people already in Eldia from being attacked by Marleyan soldiers who were also in the city, coincidentally having the walls destroyed also ensures any Titans interested in eating the inhabitants of Eldia have absolutely no restrictions placed on them for doing so. Both of these problems come to fruition and by the time the manga ends a substantial portion of eldias already fractured population is zero due to murder and mass emigration. Those remaining survivors of Eldia at the cliff in the final chapters, they’re the last ones remaining in this gay ass story because of Eren, everyone that was stuck in Paradis is fucking dead or being eaten by the remaining pure titans before they burn themselves to death without ever becoming human. And none of this actually makes any sense given Isayamas own fucking lore. Reminder, the rumbling starts right after Erens head gets severed by a high caliber AT round directly through the neck by Gabi. Isayama wrote this ending horrendously, he somehow both managed to include the shittiest outcome for the entire planet, and fuck over the perpetrators of it when keeping them safe was the fucking point of having that damage inflicted on the planet in the first place. Oh and all of the geographical damage is just flat out retconned for the most forced and cheesy ending imaginable to say something about violence and fascism without commitment. Bad writing.


I don't see why a story can't have bad outcomes for the people involved. It neither needs to have one side getting what they want nor does it need a deep message to convey. Can't a story simply be the unfolding of events and the audience gets to experience a fictional world?


imo lots of people consume stories for escapism purposes so shitty outcomes kinda defeats the point.


AoT is a tragedy and lives up exactly to what the genre is about. If people were looking for the good guys to win then they tried to find that in the wrong series. The critique about Eldia not being saved also wrongfully assumes that the story is about Eldia being saved.


That’s fine, but you can’t say that for AOT for two reasons.

The ending we got was forced and out of synch with what would actually happen given the authors context for the worlds setup. Eren is fucking dead and the power of the founding titan is long since gone well before he has any reason to be able start a rumbling.
The fact that the rumbling occurs and how it changes the planet still fucks over any sense of consistency and manages to be a considerably less satisfying ending than if Eldia was straight up raised to the ground and the story ended off there.

The ending was shit and poorly thought out. There’s no excuse for Eren, his actions, the retconning and the plot armour it took to even create such a terrible conclusion. Hell I haven’t even touched into the fact that outside of the literal death of paradis island, basically anyone that didn’t already hate Eldia now has zero reason to not want to kill off the remaining Eldians, wether or not they’re even aware that plenty don’t support Erens actions.


there's also the fact that the story constantly cocksucks eren and lionizes his edgy retard behavior, it's not like the warning signs weren't there


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Have you heard of a tragedy anon it's one of oldest genres of fiction, as the ancient Greeks invented it. And it's considered one of most popular genres of fiction, and is often considered the highest form of art.


>people haven't consumed tragedy for escapism/catharsis since fucking civilization existed

tumblr brain moment


the pure titans have been wiped out during the time skip, but in theory there could be some left since eldia was sending them all the time. also in my opinions it should have ended with eren succeeding, but paradis still getting destroyed but from inside due to the fascist who took over, but Isayama is a fascist himself so he of course did nit do that and would rather create an ending which validates the kill or be killed ideology of the fascists and his newly ideologically open segment of audience.


Attack on Titan feels like someone had a gigantification + vore/stepping fetish and also liked anime a lot, so they combined the most tropey shonen anime action with the fetish, following an inane plotline. I mean it worked in terms of popularity so you can't claim it's a failure.


Escapism is for boredom. Tragedy is entertaining.


usually people with that fetish make the giants hot. Nost titans look like they were taken out of some fascist propaganda poster which makes sense since they are seemingly are the stereotypical foreign animalistic subhuman bugmen horde that is only there to destroy.


>usually people with that fetish make the giants hot.
Not necessarily, just mainstream. And I mean the main protagonist Titan-shifters are relatively better looking than the brainless NPC-normie titans.
>they are seemingly are the stereotypical foreign animalistic subhuman bugmen horde that is only there to destroy.
LMAO, but even in those depictions there is the interracial element.


>mc goes schizo abt doing anything to save his people
>bark meets his bite, starts genociding the planet bc all or nothing
>PSYCH! reveal lelouche plot at 80% completion (not even how lelouching works, lelouche worked because he made what he hated feared, eren made what he cared about hated by those he clearly didn't give a shit about)
>manga ends with some bs 'they all hold hands' ending

>extra pages drop

>actually the whole all or nothing thing was right, mc's home is nuked to oblivion, proving…?


Dunno if it's fash but it's way over-rated


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The moral of the story:War and hatred is human nature destined to make the same mistakes in a cycle. Communism is supposed to be the end point where the proles destroy themselves as a class and we truly find peace. But would this war cycle keep on going even under communism. I am wary it is even possible to end this glitch with humans.The amount of people that call this ending realistic really made me think tbh. Most Shonens have a feel good ending where peace and friendship overcomes everything. This ending was just a giant blackpill.


The actual lesson is not to be naïve and commit to a successful genocide. Their punishment is to be stuck in limbo for not going all in.


>"Men should be either treated generously or destroyed, because they take revenge for slight injuries - for heavy ones they cannot." - Niccolo Machiavelli


some of the faces looked pretty goofy, story is shit, I am surprised how suddenly people started praising the ending since originally everyone hated it. One piece is better


How many people praised the ending of One Piece?


I'm sure a lot of people are going to when it happens.


It’s entertaining, but under any scrutiny, the story is retarded, which shouldn’t be surprising considering the author is an unabashed imperial Japan apologist.
The fan interpretations solidify how much he fumbled the story, with every person seemingly parroting either:
1. The story was about how war is inevitable and the cycle will always persist, no matter what we do, so let’s just hold hands and peacefully walk into the inevitable knowing we’re good people.

or the more concerning

2. The story was a cautionary tale that you should always complete genocides of your enemies as they are ontologically evil and must exterminated.


natural result of being a liberal. The ideology doesn’t really have anything to offer to refute fascism, other than “it’s not cool to kill” and “actually you are the real homos/jews” so it’s only natural that author failed to offer a real reason why Eren’s plan was wrong other than attacking Eren’s character by making him act in a pathetic way in the end, kind of like how liberals attack Trump or Putin by calling them gay. Also I am 💯 confident that author has fascist sympathies which naturally got in his way once he decided that “billions must die” isn’t cool actually.


Yeah he’s absolutely a mild crypto fash at heart.
He openly designed a character after an imperial Japan invasion commander, noting that said war criminal was “frugal and respectable”. He also denied comfort women in Korea being a real problem, as well as saying that Korea occupation benefited Korea in the long run cause their population increased, and Japan was not anywhere near as bad as Nazi germany.


If WW3 and/or climte change aren't killing us before

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