No.7111[Last 50 Posts]
https://news.knowyourmeme.com/news/russian-court-bans-isekai-anime-for-promoting-reincarnation-beliefs
>Popular isekai anime KonoSuba and That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, as well as several others, have been banned on certain sites in Russia recently. The Russian court decided that the isekai (meaning "otherworld") titles "promote reincarnation beliefs" and show that "after death, there can be a more full and interesting life, free from control of one's parents."
>On Monday, the Russian district court in Saint Petersburg banned a total of five anime titles, citing the federal Russian law for the protection of children from harmful information. The list of banned series includes isekai anime KonoSuba and That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, comedy horror anime Zombie Land Saga, comedy romance Nekopara and harem anime Princess Lover!.
>"The court has ruled that, for example, KonoSuba: God's Blessing on this Wonderful World! promotes reincarnation beliefs by showing that after death there can be a more full and interesting life, free from control of one's parents. The world after death is shown to be colorful, full of adventures and offering an opportunity to lead an indulgent life full of drinking, sexual relations and unlawful activities, while the real life is shown as joyless and filled with loneliness."Hopefully a wakeup call for leftist weebs who advocate for censorship to protect the children unironically. Has it ever occurred to you that isekai is dangerous because a child watching isekai MIGHT commit suicide to be reincarnated? No? And why is that? Maybe just maybe there is a difference between fiction that is blatant wish-fullfilment disconnected from reality and suicide cult propaganda?
This is where "all fiction is political" analysis got us. Fucking retards.
No.7119
>>7111>>7111lmao, do they also forbid all religions mentioning an afterlife ? hilarious. And stupid.
No.7120
>>7119>do they also forbid all religions mentioning an afterlife ?They should.
No.7122
Maybe Russian weeaboos will get better taste now.
No.7123
Isekai is what made me stop watching anime in the first place. It's boring as fuck.
No.7124
>some government does something irrelevant
>uses knowyourmeme as a source
>starts sperging out about leftists
<the ban only applies to a handful of hosting sites, including Animejapan.tv, Animego.org, Jut.su and Animeonline.cc
am i supposed to care about what happens to something you can easily get off the internet
isekai is shit btw /pol/tard
No.7128
who cares lmao
No.7132
>>7130Putin only watches cgdct
No.7136
>>7132>>7133I mean if you think about it most modern isekai is just CGDCT slice of life facilitated by a generic OP MC.
No.7141
I'm not a /pol/tard for recognizing the retardation of leftist weebs who support the censorship of frivolous entertainment fucking retards.
>>7124https://dtf.ru/anime/714651-propagandiruet-teoriyu-pererozhdeniya-sud-peterburga-zapretil-ssylku-na-anime-etot-zamechatelnyy-mir-konosubaTHIS is the ultimate conclusion of "your wish-fullfilment is dangerous to the children" crap. The actual effect of this ban is irrelevant brainlet. The point is that someone can use this logic to claim isekai encourages suicide. It's retarded, but so is claiming that eg. Usagi Drop encourages incest. A load of baloney with absolutely zero critical thinking that will lead to the death of anime. Enjoy!
No.7144
>>7141Stop scaremongering, nobody cares about these leftists in your head. Now let me torrent my animes in peace.
No.7148
>>7144>>7146When you end up having serious problems in life for being a weeb don't expect any sympathy from me. You get what you fucking deserve.
No.7149
>>7148Damn, maybe we should rise up or something. Lmao.
No.7152
>>7149The least you can do is argue with retards online to nudge the discourse. Which you already do on /leftypol/.
No.7153
>>7148im gonna keep that in mind the next time some show gets banned from some irrelevant streaming service bro
No.7154
>>7153Brainlet I already told you the ban is not the point. Read uygha read.
No.7155
>>7133>>7136The difference is that cgdct is good and Isekai is bad.
No.7156
>>7154i dont care about your victim complex
No.7157
>>7155CGDCT is pedoshit anon.
No.7158
>>7141>The point is that someone can use this logic to claim isekai encourages suicide.Isn't that kinda true though?
When Avatar came out in theaters I remember a couple of people killed themselves because they wanted to live in Pandora
No.7160
>>7158Find me a source because I can't find a single one.
No.7162
>>7161Yeah. That's what I found. Zero mentions of suicide cases.
No.7165
>>7164Fucking Americans man.
No.7166
>>7130Man, this drawing sucks.
>>7129There's nothing wrong with streaming. Only autistic elitists give a shit about encoding and 1080p quality or whatever the fuck.
No.7168
>>7166Nobody cares about streaming sites getting banned.
No.7170
>>7168Neither do I, because I know that the content will resurface and if it doesn't, who gives a shit
No.7171
>>7170At least we agree on something.
No.7173
>>7111>This is where "all fiction is political" analysis got usYeah I'm sure that's what caused the stupid ban
It's not like stupid religion shitters have been calling for bans about literally everything before anime was even a thing
STFU whiny weeb. Politics surrounds us
No.7183
>>7173>Politics surrounds usnot all fiction is propaganda
No.7184
>>7183>he think talking politics = propaganda>he think some things can't be interpreted politicallyyou're a fucking moron
No.7188
> Hopefully a wakeup call for leftist weebs
Putin is fash rightoid
No.7189
>>7111The ban amounts to not letting people watch that shit on crunchyroll lel, they can't do shit.
>boo hoo censorship badIt's only bad when it's my enemies censoring things I like.
>>7119Religion gets a pass because you're not getting the good afterlife if you kys I guess.
No.7190
>>7184strawman
I repeat, not all fiction is propaganda. get it through your thick head.
No.7193
>>7190its not all propaganda
But its all political
No.7198
>>7193I don't know what kind of semantics we're playing here
if a media is political it is propaganda by default as that is the very definition of propaganda (political advertising)
no it's not all political. the word you're looking for is ideological of which politics is only one subset. even then as is commonly the case with for example pornography there is no "endorsement" of the ideology one could extract if one bothered to critically examine it. that is because what we desire is not necessarily constituent in our ideology. for example I may desire a redhead gf but I will never demand the right to a redhead gf.
No.7200
>>7183>not all fiction is propagandaam i talking about propaganda? no
i'm saying how politics affects every medium and story without even intentionally trying to be political
No.7206
isekai is trash pretty based tbh
No.7209
>>7208The existence of real friendship is itlself a rebellion against the spectacle
No.7213
>>7206>>7130I came here to say this
No.7214
>>7209>friendship is a revolt against the systemno
it is as much of a revolt as going sightseeing
we are ideologically conditioned from birth to see friendship as a Good Thing
No.7215
>>7214>we are ideologically conditioned from birth to see friendship as a Good ThingIts a good thing
No.7217
Can someone explain what sense there is in censorship such as this? As well as speech censorship laws? I'm not a free speech dogmatist but why ban free speech? Or free press? Of course if there is to be conflicting press there should be a counter press that should be able to defeat another press in debate and empirical evidence. I do believe in information curation and not information for information sake which is how conspiracy spreads.
No.7221
>>7214You were genetically conditioned from birth to post this trash.
No.7222
>>7217What the fuck are you talking about
No.7224
>>7223No but I have the sneaking suspicion that you are. What compelled you to post that?
No.7226
and nothing of value was lost
No.7228
>>7224Concerning censorship.
No.7232
The deceptively apolitical slice of life productions are often the most political, implicitly.
No.7235
>>7215ok and?
>>7221read theory
>>7225take your meds
No.7266
Aren't most religions basically isekai?
No.7295
>Hopefully a wakeup call for leftist weebs who advocate for censorship to protect the children unironically.
what, because a far-right conservative fascist state went insane over it? yeah totally a wakeup call
>This is where "all fiction is political" analysis got us. Fucking retards.
politics concerns the social relations of a given society, thusly the products of said society are political indicators. this conclusion does not necessitate state involvement - which is apparently your definition of politics: "when da government does stuff". a hyperreligious hyperconservative ideological opposition to anime is not the same as examining social relations via textual analysis. retard.
No.7296
>>7295I don't know what you're talking about, re-read the thread maybe?
>state takes action against konosuba because it "negatively affects the children">the state is implying by their behavior that konosuba is undesirable political propaganda>konosuba>political propaganda No.7297
>>7296>I don't know what you're talking about,He's clearly stating that OP is a retarded /pol/yp.
No.7298
>>7297>He's clearly stating that OP is a retarded /pol/yp.I don't know, re-read his post maybe? The premise does not follow the thread. It reads like a schizo post. He's not engaging with the thread.
No.7299
>>7298I think your reading comprehension is just bad.
No.7300
>>7299see
>>7296 where I summarize the OP's premise. What does his post have to do with that exactly?
No.7301
>>7296>>7298The one who doesn't get it is you, OP.
>>7295 is right.
No.7302
>>7301How can he be right when his own post is not consistent with itself? Did the state analyze Konosuba and others? Yes. They didn't take action arbitrarily while his post implies they did.
No.7303
>>7302OP:
>a far right conservative government banning isekai for religious reasons is the result of leftist analysis of fiction and you all should take it as a wake up call>not all fiction is political>political means propagandaHe argued against these three points of yours. What part do you not get?
No.7304
>>7303>>a far right conservative government banning isekai for religious reasons is the result of leftist analysis of fiction and you all should take it as a wake up call*the state took action against frivolous entertainment on the basis of interpreting it as dangerous propaganda; this is the ultimate conclusion of the belief that all fiction is political for even the most inoffensive fiction can uncharitably be interpreted as propaganda and thus nothing will be safe anymore if this continues, let's not contribute to the problem people
Nowhere are religious reasons stated nor does the state being right-wing matter when the implication is that any state could do this using the same method. Nor is it stated anywhere that this is "leftist" analysis being employed.
>not all fiction is politicalPrecisely. I don't know how you can read their analysis of Konosuba et al and not go "what the fuck, they're reading way too deep into it".
>political means propagandaPolitical media is propaganda.
No.7305
fuck isekai
No.7310
>>7304You're a certified retard
No.7311
>>7304>this is the ultimate conclusion of the belief that all fiction is politicalIt's the conclusion of some guys having power to censor shit they don't like for arbitrary reasons and people who like that shit having zero power to counteract.
Random stuff people on the internet believe doesn't enter this equation at all.
People can believe any number of abstract concepts like "free speech" and "human rights" as hard as they can, it wouldn't change how society works unless they put in the work.
No.7312
This thread has 79 more replies than it should have.
No.7316
>>7310You're a certified theorylet.
>>7311Read Althusser.
No.7317
>>7316>Read AlthusserI don't want to, make an actual argument.
No.7318
>>7317>I dont want to read I know
No.7335
>>7296>state takes action against konosuba because it "negatively affects the children"let's see, what ideology can we think of that absolutely and irrationally loses it's shit over DA CHILDRUN? hmmmm, ohh yes, the "muh family" meme fascists and conservatives, who state nearly all issues from LGBT people existing to immigration of non-europeans within the context of protecting the children, accusing these groups of being disproportionately pedophiles even as families continue to be the setting for most abuse of young people.
>the state is implying by their behavior that konosuba is undesirable political propagandaby being anti-suicide? that mostly strikes me as a religious objection, which would make sense seeing as the Putin regime is very much in bed with the Orthodox Church, throwing it all sorts of bones in exchange for unconditional support. I can't even think of what ideological opposition to suicide would exist in Putin's Russia that isn't religious - after all, someone comitting suicide could well be one of Putin's enemies, why the hell would he care? since the censorship is almost certainly in service of hyper-religious ideology, I think we can safely conclude that this too has laughably little to do with leftism. indeed leftism so far has done the best job in history of removing the stupid delusions of religion that lead to this court decision to begin with.
>political propagandalook, I'll admit that I've done Marxist analyses of Super Paper Mario in my spare time for fun, but merely analyzing a text politically does not amount to calling it propaganda. Propaganda exists for a political purpose, whereas entertainment merely exists to entertain - apparently to you only things that exist for political purposes can ever be examined politically. and yet there was a big outcry over Cuties - could it be that fucking nobody shares your stupid views on everything other than written law being nonpolitical?
No.7339
>>7318I don't want to read a bunch of shit I'm not interested in to intuitively understand what the fuck are you trying to say, make an argument yourself.
No.7340
>>7339THIS ATTITUDE, RIGHT HERE. YOU NEVER ENGAGE CRITICALLY WITH ANYTHING, YOU NEVER CARE TO THINK, YOU NEVER CARE TO EXAMINE, YOU JUST WANT TO EAT SLOP LIKE A DAMN PIG. POLITICAL ANALYSIS DIDN'T RUIN THE GAMES AND SHOWS OF MY CHILDHOOD, THE COMMODIFIED IGNORANCE OF STUPID IDIOTS LIKE YOU, UNWILLING TO STAND UP FOR ART AGAINST CAPITALISM, RUINED IT. YOU DID THIS. FUCK YOU.
No.7342
>>7340I engage critically with things I care about, if you want me to engage with your argument you have to make it first.
No.7347
>>7342somebody without the attention span for anything longer than a tweet is not someone who'd be convinced by an argument. go back to the gym, stupid dumb chad scum.
No.7348
RANGE BAN USA FROM INTERNET
No.7366
>>7347Nobody's gonna read every work of Althusser to try to guess what the fuck kind of point a random schizo on an anime board tried to make.
No.7394
>>7366>hates reading>hates anime>only wants to liftgo away and lift then, chad. nobody online will ever want to talk to you, go fuck one of your girls.
No.7449
>>7366Althusser is literally one of the most significant modern Marxist figures and you're saying you haven't the slightest clue about his most important contributions? Holy shit.
No.7495
>>7126i tried playing that crap recently. it was the only one i skipped between 1 and 9 and now i'm glad i did. aside from the fact the game is horribly broken and dead easy, the story is awful. quistis was the only likable character in the party and yet the game forces you to pursue the cutesy ditzy rich girl instead. at least 7 killed the cutesy girl at about the time you start to realize that tifa is better, and the best character, cait sith, even dances happily in response to her death. 8 was so bad i started playing 9 again just so i could like the series again. i'll probably play 4 again at some point because i want to fug adult rydia enough to get hard over pixels. rydia is so hot when she grows up, why couldn't square maintain that level of character design? the only time i connected with anyone in 8 was when squall would say "…whatever" because that's exactly how i felt about the shit story i was watching.
No.7499
First Russia next the world
No.7510
based. basically all isekai is dogshit
No.7520
What's this insinuating? Life in Russia is such pure hell that the slightest suggestion of reincarnation maybe being for real might make kids kill themselves? lmaoanarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism
No.7580
>>7141So more black trans characters should added in anime then?
No.8347
konosuba is shit.viet_congViet Cong
No.8377
>>7580>more black trans characters should added in anime thenthe da fak ur going on about
No.8378
Unexpectedly based Putin
No.8400
>>8375Fuck, I have to do this for infinity? Maybe hell was real after all
No.8416
>>8375I thought about something like this
while I was high before. Everything exists, nothing non-exists.
No.8418
>>8375this presumes that time only exists because life perceives it, which is subjectivism. this person believes they can't possibly stop perceiving the world, because they believe the world is itself created by their perceiving it.
No.8774
>>7111Considering suicide rates and that the reasoning itself correct, I don't see the problem with this ban, especially since anyone who is of age and a normal non-suicidal anime fan can use a VPN or Tor to watch banned anime.
>>7123For you maybe it's boring (or maybe you're just watching dumb 1-2 season mass produced isekai instead of actually good ones.
>>7122They don't particularly watch any of the 5 mentioned, Naruto, Evangelion, Serial Experiments Lain, and other 90s-2000s classics are the preferred content there.
t. 2ch poster
>>7141>someone can use this logic to claim isekai encourages suicideYes, because it is LOGICAL, that's the point you fucktard. You sound like those retards whining about violence censorship because "it's fine" despite numerous studies proving that kids are impressionable and until their adults, are prone to being influenced by media and social groups, even adults are not immune to this, but due to being grown up are more stable than a hormonal teen or naiive child.
No-Censorship faggots are just lolberts in denial, get a fucking grip.
No.8778
>>8774censorship is for fags and you're king faggot
No.8788
>>8779queen* faggot, sorry
No.9147
>>8774>no escapism allowedimagine being this much of a wagie bootlicker holy fuck
No.9178
>>9147>wagie bootlicker<buzzwords are so cool, let me spam them incoherently! 1) There is more than Isekai as a fantasy you dullard
2) a little fantasy and escapism is fine, being a weeb obsessed with this shit because your life is shit instead of trying to improve your life or at least find enjoyment IRL is being sick in the head and requires help, of which suicide is not a good option
So yeah, imagine being so ass mad because "muh animu"
No.9200
ban all anime becuase its all mierda
No.9575
>>9178I'm glad you agree with the capitalist psychiatrist hegemony. Now back to work, wagie!
No.10426
>>7111 >Russia Bans Isekai Anime <KYM Also Germany banned Redo of Healer and stuff, and?
https://archive.ph/gR2zd No.10441
>>10426Oh cool I didn't know this
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