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 No.15324

Burgerland post.

Radical Liberalism, or radlibs, as we call them, is a form of liberal politics which emerged in the early 2010s, starting from blogs and college campuses and eventually spreading its hyperwoke culture into mainstream corporations, movies/tv, etc. Radical liberalism is often associated with the "millennial" generation, especially upper-middle class college graduates and also “identity politics”. Contrary to right wing beliefs, this is mostly an organic cultural shift due to the fact that college graduates make more money on average and are also more liberal on average, so corporations becoming work is actually just the result of normal market forces responding to the consumer preferences of the people who actually have money now, which is the mostlyl liberal knowledge workers.

My argument is that Millennial politics is mostly motivated by a backlash against the Bush era and neoconservatism, but this backlash actually imitates the thing it's lashing against very closely.

In the early 2000s, the culture was very different. You couldn’t criticize Bush, or criticize the war, without someone jumping down your throat, calling you a faggot prick who hated America, hated freedom and was a terrorist sympathizer or Saddam lover. Famously, the dixie chicks, a country group got shitcanned by conservatives after one of them said something mildly against the Iraq war while on tour. Overnight, thousands of people protested, sperged out, smashed their CD’s in the streets, and one guy even rolled over their CD’s with a steamroller.

Millennials who got this imprinted on them as children, teens, or young adults, learned – this is how we deal with people politically. Effective, isn’t it? According to these people, the problem conservatives have with cancel culture isn’t that people couldn’t be hounded out of polite society at the end of a pitchfork, only that they were on the wrong end of the pitchfork – that the culture had shifted from a post 9/11 conservatism so that people other than “conservative white males” could flex their power, unlike before.

Wokeness is a religion. It’s a religion for a new secular age. As urbanization and modernity erode traditional religious beliefs, humans still have the needs of religion, to find meaning in the world. Wokeness isn’t entirely political, although it overlaps with politics. It’s individualistic, it is more about feeling like a good person individually than any form of praxis, let alone praxis oriented towards economic change. 2010s hyper-wokeness embodied the new left slogan of “the personal is political” more than anything else and even went further – to nearly implying that ONLY the personal is political, that politics is reducible to individualized interactions. This isn’t even Gramsci’s war of position, but in actuality is closer to a Foucaultian notion of micropolitics.

I went to a woke poetry slam, for a date I had with a liberal girl. It was an event that happened every few weeks. I also went to church as a kid. The similarities are striking. Its a periodic repeating event that people go to, to reaffirm their beliefs. They ask for money. There’s singing and/or music involved. And there is a person on a stage preaching about morality. The people murmur their assent.

Boomers call them socialist or communist because that’s a word they know to describe people to the left of them that they don’t like. The truth is they aren’t socialist or communist, because socialist would imply that they care about economics, which they don’t unless it overlaps with race/gender categories. When is the last time someone has been cancelled for saying something problematic about race, LGBT, gender, etc.? All the time. Has a similar hounding out of polite society EVER happened to someone who for example was for treating uber drivers as contractors and not full time employees? Or someone who was against raising the minimum wage? Literally never. Their true wrath, their zeal, a religious zeal is directed towards cultural issues only. Liberalism vs conservatism. Libertine hedonism vs tradition and morality. Youth versus middle age. Open mindedness versus Contentiousness and firm belief. Who are these people, do they inject heroin by day and party by night? No, they are “normal” upper middle class knowledge economy workers who live either in the city or suburban areas. In fact they look like the old demographics of what used to be the Republican base, ye upper middle class white anglo-saxon protestants of old (although the new group is slightly more diverse).

People kept saying, when Millennials get older they will become conservative. When they graduate college and get into the “real world” they will change. Well it didn’t happen. Millennials are old now and the world didn’t change them, the culture simply shifted. Because of course it would. The boomers reaching their 30s didn’t bring back Pleasantville, leave it to beaver 1950s society no matter how much Reagan’s evangelical base wanted it to. Society had already been changed forever. People could have sex before marriage, and homosexuality was legal, even if still there was a stigma against it.

People asked “when will Millennials become conservative” the short answer is, they already are. What is a conservative is relative. A Communist is radical in America, but conservative in 1980s Russia. Radical Liberals today actually are conservative, the difference is instead of being conservative in relation to traditional American anglo-protestant culture, they are conservative to a newer, secular form of morality and pseudo-religion which the cultural right doesn’t like or agree with. Their bible is a collection of Kimberle Crenshaw essays, their catechism, a copy of “white fragility”. Radical liberalism is not libertine in the slightist. It is radically moralist. There is policing around what words and attitudes are proper. There is policing of sexuality, sexual behavior, and even how we talk about sex. Just like fundamentalist christians denied material conditions and described the great recession as a “spiritual crisis”, radical liberals eschew talking about class politics in favor of identitarian sources of economic problems. Christian Conservatives decried “taking prayer out of schools”. Modern liberals put extreme wokeness into schools, even the public school system in places like New York City for example.

Now, it is the liberals who are the ones who claim decency and morality and civility, and the right who are the edgy transgressives – the vulgarians, the angry people. And with things like Russiagate they get to even play at being cold-warriors. With the capitol riot they get to say that liberals are the patriots, and the right are the traitors. A strange inversion! And famously, they support interventionist aggressive foreign policy as well, ex: Rachel Maddow, a gay woman but also a warmonger and insane russiagate conspiracy theorist, the grad-school educated Alex Jones.

In one of the early Covid relief bills, for the first time, the democrats included a provision to cut the SALT cap. Yes, in 2017, TRUMP passed a bill that limited the amount of state and local taxes you can reduce off your federal taxes to $10,000 max, while the Democrats under Pelosi proposed to eliminate or raise this cap so that upper middle class suburbanites would be benefitting most from this, reflecting the new upper middle class, class interests of the democratic party.

Yes, the best way to understand radlibs, who ten years ago were college students, now the white collar suburban base of the democrats is that they are essentially Bush era neoconservatives, but their evangelical christianity is wokeness.
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 No.15325

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Nazcentbol GANG memes are the way to go
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 No.15326

>>15325
nazcentbol is a forced meme, the jreg-ification of politics, just a cope for the left losing. Its just /r/neoliberal but ironic and with more chan flavoured memes
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 No.15327

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 No.15328

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 No.15329

>>15324
Damn, was the Bush era as shit as it sounds? I'm not American but it really looked like the neocon dark ages.
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 No.15330

Based, this reminds me of the effortpost I used to see on old r/stupidpol before it became unusable rightoid garbage.
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 No.15331

>>15329
In a way it was nice, because even liberals were making coherent critiques of Bush and the wars. It felt like the left was united-ish.
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 No.15332

>>15327
TLDR: Radlibs are just like bush era conservatives except they swapped hardcore protestant christianity for wokeness
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 No.15333

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 No.15334

>>15333
>archive
screencap would have been better
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 No.15335

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>>102657
>rape
uhhh, why not just consensual sex? whys it have to be rape?
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 No.15336

>>15324
>Burgerland post.
>doesn't put it in the general
fuck off.
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 No.15337

>>15326
>nazcentbol is a forced meme,
so is nazbol. and what?
> the jreg-ification of politics
People have been laughing at the comodification of politics/ideology for years m8. Why do you think this started with a marginal youtube comdian?
>just a cope for the left losing.
>the left is loosing. you can tell bcause someone on an image board made a meme.
uhhh. what? How is your though process behind this?
> Its just /r/neoliberal but ironic and with more chan flavoured memes
Yes. All jokes can be taken apart to there components. What is your point here?
>>15335
Because A. American or B. spends to much time online and has American Mindset Disase. Culturally they have a absoloutely fuckd view of women. even what others see as bad in there own cultures is nothing compared to those people. They see women as nothing but slabs of meat to be fucked, incapable of seeing them as there equals. In the american male mind the women is but a simpleton so her consent is not important when it means pleasing The Individual.
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 No.15339

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>>15337
To add to this point, currently the big feminist campaign in amrica is to legalize Prosititution as apparntly it is heavily criminalized there.
Why we must ask does of all the things the american woman fight for it be 'the right to be comodified and fucked by men for pay'??
This one thing only shows us that the AMD damage goes further than just the men in regards to womens issues and is even deeply embeded within the female american.
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 No.15345

why was this moved to /b/ ? its politics
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 No.15387

>>15324
This seems to me to be mostly correct.
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 No.21679

This thread is too good to sink to the archive like this.
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 No.21682

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 No.21705

>>15339
>Why we must ask does of all the things the american woman fight for it be 'the right to be comodified and fucked by men for pay'??
Because not having the right and doing it anyway is even worse, and because they finally realized that making a thing illegal does not make it go away. Honestly, it marks an improvement in their thought process. Besides, sex workers organize extremely well when their work is legalized.
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 No.21716

>>15324
>In fact they look like the old demographics of what used to be the Republican base
The Bush-era neocons were largely the very same people as the Reagan-era neocons. Older people here may remember Newt Gingrich and his "Ninnies" with their Contract With America or the Christian Coalition. The Bush era constituted the last gasp of the Boomers as a political force. The only aspect of Bush the Younger's presidency that was truly unique was September Eleven and the absurd, often comical overreaction to it.
>Now, it is the liberals who are the ones who claim decency and morality and civility, and the right who are the edgy transgressives – the vulgarians, the angry people.
No doubt this phenomenon is at least partly responsible for why it has become so much easier win over rightards with proper arguments than it is to do the same with woketards who reflexively ignore all reason and evidence and screech moral condemnation at anyone who dares to point out their flawed logic.
>Yes, the best way to understand radlibs, who ten years ago were college students, now the white collar suburban base of the democrats is that they are essentially Bush era neoconservatives, but their evangelical christianity is wokeness.
This is an astute point. Is it not fascinating how the same capitalist economic base keeps reproducing the same superstructural ideologies in different packeging?
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 No.21725

>>15324
Why do you acknowledge it's a burgertown post then not put it in the general you mong?
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 No.21751

You can't superimpose neocon memes onto radlib shit organically. Let them come about organically as the radlibs put kids in cages and bomb the middle east and continue to swallow up poor countries resources.
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 No.21755

Radlib bullshit has been going on since, like, the 1960s op.
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 No.26134

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I have an effortpost I'll make on this soon, but I don't want this thread to fall into oblivion before I make it. Here's a longcat to make up for bumping it.
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 No.26135

>>26134
Is long
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 No.26146

>>26134
I wanna make brown babies with the catgirl.
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 No.26157

>>26134
this art is atrocious
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 No.26210

>>26157
False
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 No.26219

>>26146
But she's not brown…
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 No.26220

>>26210
it's a polished turd and looking at it for more than 5 seconds makes it obvious
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 No.26223

>>26220
The way the girl's feet are both dangling and on the ground is quite clever
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 No.26238

>>26219
Racist
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 No.26670

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>>15324
Great synopsis of the cultural situation anon. I feel as though the great recession plays a highly significant role in the shift towards idpol and tamping down of the edgy slapstick that was so prevalent throughout the 00s but that the scale of the economic disaster is the leading factor of far more than the cultural decline. 9/11, Bush’s wars in the Middle East, and the 08 meltdown stick with me as the most formative events that continue to have the largest impact on millennials today, primarily due to the effects they’ve had on the credibility of the state.

>>15334
>>15333
It’s a big post to snab but I agree that it’s worth it.
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 No.26675

>>21705
a sex worker radicalized formerly wannabe porky me. mad respect to them.
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 No.26680

> Libertine hedonism vs tradition and morality. Youth versus middle age. Open mindedness versus Contentiousness and firm belief. Who are these people, do they inject heroin by day and party by night? No, they are “normal” upper middle class knowledge economy workers who live either in the city or suburban areas. In fact they look like the old demographics of what used to be the Republican base, ye upper middle class white anglo-saxon protestants of old (although the new group is slightly more diverse).

Complete bullshit. Conservatives make more money than liberals. More educated people are less socially conservative because social conservativatism is retarded
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 No.26757

>>26670
The 08 recession animated the class politics behind bernie and occupy wall street, while IDPOL was the intelligence agency psyop to undermine the workers movement by shifting it from economic equality to muh lgbtqiaa+++ drone pilots and goldman sachs traders of color
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 No.26758

>>26680
>Conservatives make more money than liberals.
yes but the conservatives who make more money are typically business owners, not credentialed professionals
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 No.26759

>>26758
>actually thinks you're allowed to own a big business w/ out at least a bachelor's degree these days
My fucking sides
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 No.26761

>>26760
Archive that shit retard!
https://archive.is/Z3epn
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 No.26762

>>26760
>>26761
tl:dr this shit
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 No.26873

>>26757
intelligence agencies put more support into reactionary groups than
progressive" ones
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 No.27030

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>>26757
We've probably all seen the associated infographics and memes that prove the
>introduce them to identity politics
button was pushed right after occupy wall street began but I’d argue that most of the gay-op we’ve been battered with post gay marriage was baked in as a consequence of the Frankfurt school acolytes. Pic related were the flags displayed outside the Korean embassy over the summer of 2020 and neatly represents the cultural export of the Burgerstan state department. It feels as though there’s a sort of atomization and annihilation being thrust upon burgers of all shapes and sizes from every angle yet the question still stands in regards to just how much the people, the state, or those above it all are responsible for the surplus faggotry in the howling 20s.

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