Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:50 No. 2871
Why do people keep making new German threads when this one is up?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2872
Hows the situation in East Germany now?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2873
>>2861 WTF is that PDF, the literal 1st page with text: This exhibition has been generously funded by:
The Federal Foundation for the Reappraisal of the SED Dictatorship was created in 1998 by an
act of the German parliament. The aims of the Foundation are: to contribute to a comprehensive reappraisal of origins and causes, history and impact of the communist dictatorship
in the Soviet-occupation zone and East Germany between 1945 and 1989, to provide testimony
to injustices committed by the SED regime and to recognize victims, to further the antitotalitarian consensus within Germany, and to strengthen democracy and German unity.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2874
>>2873 It still supports the argument and given its bias it only gives more credit
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2876
>>656266
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2878
>>2877 How the fuck was commodity production generalized in the GDR?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2879
>>2824 It's amazing to think corn is so powerfull that the sugar extracted from them is more cheap than sugar and caused a global epidemic of obesity.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2880
>>2855 Not even Juche Corea agreed to that. What was in the mind of Honecker? Did the Detente policy of the soviets influence that?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:51 No. 2883
>>2880 >What was in the mind of Honecker? Remember Honecker was sort of couped into office, probably because the late Walter Ulbricht became a bit too independent-minded for Moscow's taste. 2 German states might have been Moscow's new preferable strategic line (including fortified border) with regard to the German question in the early 1970s and Honecker directly adopted it. Walter Ulbricht on the other hand always maintained direct contacts with West German politicians (without reporting to Moscow) and did not accept the partition.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:52 No. 2886
>>2885 Who are you even supposed to vote for in the west? The literal rosakillers?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:52 No. 2887
WERE WEEST GERMANY THE BAD GUYS OR VICTIMS OF USA IMPERIALISM?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:52 No. 2888
>>2885 East Germany si still with us :)
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:52 No. 2889
>>2887 Collaborators of US imperialism, ergo the bad guys.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:52 No. 2890
>>2885 The Linke's not really the successor of the SED in any other way then legally. They werere made up of the liberal, reformist wing of the SED and basically purged the orthodox old guard that made up the East German government at their very beginning. Those went on to fund the KPD that, among others, Comrade Honecker was part of till his death. The Linke is not all bad but they're a pretty basic bitch Social Democratic Party for the most part.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:52 No. 2891
>>2877 Recommend me some texts on why co-ops are not the best way towards socialism, or otherwise why planned economy is better
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2892
>>2758 >If the DDR wasn't as authoritarian they would still exist today Ok anarkiddie
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2893
>>2885 >Deepest blue >South-East East Germany. Was the Hitler gang right about slavoids?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2894
>>2887 The people? brainwashed victims. The FRG government? eager lapdogs.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2895
>>2560 >Favoring subjective alienation over objective alienation Bruh…
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2896
>>2556 based, thank you comrade
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2897
>>2896 >thanks given <saged
Why?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2898
Since this thread is probably over, we should move it to
>>>/edu/ so that it can remain on the site for longer and let effort posts be put into it on occasion. In other words, use /edu/ as a sort of archive for effort-post threads that have lost steam but are worth conserving.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2899
>>2898 Given that we've sank again, I'll support this.
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2900
Can anyone here give me some info on Plan X? Apparently according to Wikipedia when the situation was getting out of control in October 89 Honecker and Mielke had this plan to indefinitely arrest 85,939 people (according to Wikipedia, the specific number leads me to believe they are fully identified by the Stasi) in Nazi-esque concentrations camps, plus declaring a state of emergency. How true is all of this? And realistically would've this saved the DDR? Or the situation would've escalated in response to this?
Anonymous 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:53 No. 2901
>>2893 NRW is probably more Slavic on average today than even actual native Sorb regions east of the Elbe thanks to over hundred years of cheap labour immigration from Poland and the Balkans to the Ruhrpott's coal mines and steel factories. Every other guy's name is Kowalkski or Blaczczewiskczokcz over there, so NRW should be dark blue as well if that "theory" would hold any merit. What's more, aside from the afore mentioned Sorb minority, which is really small, i'm afraid there's generally not much Slavic hurritage left from folks who used to live here about 1000 years ago.
What's more, the dark blue region in the South East used to be deep deep red for over hundred years, it was actually one of the birth places and strongholds of the German labour/communist movement. I'm wondering why Saxony of all places turned so god damn reactionary during the last 15-20 years, it's so frustrating. 10-15 years ago Die LINKE (ex SED) was still the 2nd strongest party by far after the CDU in the Landtag and city councils.
Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:54 No. 2902
>>2900 >in Nazi-esque concentrations camps While I'm pretty sure there were plans to retake control, this line alone indicates that wikipedia and its Western sources are likely bullshit
Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:54 No. 2903
>>2902 Never heard of it, not even from the likes of Hubertus Knabe. It's complete and utter bullshit.
When Honecker resigned the DDR was already over, because the "reformers" who succeeded him, fully supported Gorbachev's intention to cede the DDR to the BRD, which was according to a Honecker interview given in 1990, already on the table in Moscow in 1984. There was also an SPIEGEL interview with Krenz about the situation in late 1989 an he claimed that Mielke himself left the decision over what to do with the protests to Krenz, as Krenz himself decided to do fuck all.
Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:23:57 No. 2931
>>2556 We need to spread this to more comrades, it's wonderful.
Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:47 No. 4634
>>3359 I was just about to inquire with some Germanons about how reliable those Heske papers are. Eye-opening if so - makes one wonder where Wikipedia's 1989 estimates of $9.7k and $5.1k (on the same page!!!) are pulled from.
Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:48 No. 4650
who cares what g*rmans “think”
Anonymous 2021-09-28 (Tue) 16:49:11 No. 7508
>>2840 For those interested report your information and facts and pics on leftypedia page on GDR/DDR
https://leftypedia.org/wiki/German_Democratic_Republic Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 22:21:22 No. 7826
>>2775 This part is made up by fascist ignore it pls
Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 22:22:32 No. 7827
>>4743 >Anarkids >Escaping to M-L DDR Kek, cant make this shit up.
Anonymous 2021-11-07 (Sun) 18:09:57 No. 8607
Fuck Germany. It should've just been balkanized and the Junkers liquidated after the House of Hohenzollern was deposed.
dumptruck !!HVQ6LN3IP. 2021-11-16 (Tue) 12:50:45 No. 8676
not a germanon but I've talked to some Germans online (even on places like /pol/ ffs) and the worst responses I've gotten were that it was just ok, so I'm guessing that Germans are cordial to the DDR
Anonymous 2021-11-19 (Fri) 07:14:32 No. 8704
I'll associate that national anthem with Rance rather than the DDR.
Anonymous 2021-12-08 (Wed) 07:46:56 No. 8863
>>2598 I dont know how it was back then but magdeburg now is shit but still if you find some old folks that can talk about the gdr almost all of them say that socialism was good but the stasi and authoritarianism was bad.
But as always alot of the younger people are indoctrinated to believe that the gdr was some kind of hell hole where you couldnt buy anything
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