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 No.5603

Can anyone recommend me literature on strategies in war? From an officers perspective. Preferably something broad. I don‘t have any knowledge on the subject matter so something that is introductory material would be great as well, but it doesn‘t have to be.

 No.5604


 No.5606

>>5604
Thank you, I already got the first recommendation.

 No.5607

>>5604
>Clausewitz, On War.
based

 No.5608

>>5604
>>5607
basically this

 No.5610

Che, La Guerra de Guerrillas (Guerrilla Warfare)
Mao, Selected Military Writings

 No.5663

bump

 No.5693

bump.

 No.5696

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>>5603
>strategies
>From an officers perspective

 No.5746

bump.

 No.5770

I love war and want to know the strategies
Best ones

 No.5771

>>5770
>Don't shoot while moving
>Always shoulder peak before a proper jiggle peak
>Pull your aim down as you spray to compensate for recoil
>Always call out your flashes

 No.5778

>>5771
>Pull your aim down as you spray to compensate for recoil
that's smart

But what's a jiggle peak

 No.5964

Do we know how Trotsky was good at war? Where did he get trained

Did he write down his learnings?
Did stalin have any war writings and tactics?

Who were the main guys behind defeating Nazis? Are there books from them

 No.5965

I have another question that I've always wondered
Is a tactic bad because it is well known?

Since Sun Tzu's Art of War (Also why is it so popular? lol) is so well known and analysed by many

Is it outdated? Are the lessons still worth learning?

What are some other hidden lesser well known great books about war tactics?

 No.5966


 No.5972

>>5965
>Is a tactic bad because it is well known?
No, definitely not. It should be assumed the enemy can read the same books you can.
>Are the lessons still worth learning?
I think they are. It's been a long time since I read it but there are ideas there like:
>Appear weak when you are strong, appear strong when you are weak.
So basically it's about managing information. Now isn't that very timely?

 No.5973

>>5972
It is.
I'm going to read it now

I have one question about the enemies with the same knowledge and tactics
Who comes out on top? Would it be just a flip coin's chance of either one's victory?

The one with the most discipline to the old ways wins or the one who finds a way to deviate and create a new path through the blueprint wins

 No.5977

>>5973
>I have one question about the enemies with the same knowledge and tactics
>Who comes out on top? Would it be just a flip coin's chance of either one's victory?

war could be seen as a game of imperfect information. Both sides are seeking for more information to strategize and exploit around.
Sometimes the information is bad, and you really can't account for that.

Even if a general knew whole armies could fit into a swamp, would he really put forward resources to scout it?

 No.5978

>>5973
>Who comes out on top?
The one with the superior logistics and resources.

 No.6543

>>5978
sure those two are important but it's not just one or two things.
>>5973
Anon I suggest you read up on asymmetric and guerilla warfare, as well as insurrections and other smaller and other more niche topics. There are plenty of ways in which a small and poorly equipped army can defeat a larger and stronger foe

 No.6544

>>6543
I meant to say smaller and niche types of conflict

 No.6545

>>5978
>The one with the superior logistics and resources.
"Captains think tactics, colonels think strategy, generals think logistics."
(To which one might be tempted to add something like "ministers think diplomacy.")

 No.6724

File: 1628096059252.pdf (1.22 MB, 200x300, OperationalArt.pdf)

PDF related is a bit limited since it mainly covers a Soviet understanding of war, but it is a really interesting piece of writing that shows how generals have changed and adapted strategies according to previous experiences, and lays the foundational theory of Soviet and current Russian Deep Battle strategies. Would recommend highly.

 No.9752

this thread should be moved to /AKM/

 No.9754

>>5964
Here are Trotsky's complete memos and other dox from the Civil War

 No.9779

>>9754
v nice

 No.9932

Question: How do you get better at strategy? Whether in games or in more tangible applications(last time was paintball I would say) I'm shit at it. I can keep a rough top-down look in my mind, but don't know what to do with it. Am I just not looking at the right things?

 No.9935

Professional Military Reading Lists: The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs' Professional Reading List
>This reading list has been constructed to support the renewal of our commitment to our Profession of Arms and the development of Joint Force 2020. The books selected capture the values and ethos of our military profession, promote innovative thinking to prepare for the operational realities of an uncertain future, and provide insights into the foundations of our service cultures.

https://amedd.libguides.com/c.php?g=566155&p=3905794


Part 1:
>A Message to Garcia by Elbert Hubbard
>The Age of the Unthinkable by Joshua Cooper Ramo
>The Art of War by Sun Tzu
>The Art of War by Baron Antoine Henri de Jomini
>The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
>Boyd by Robert Coram

Part 2:
>7 Deadly Scenarios by Andrew Krepinevich
>Command of the Air by Giulio Douhet; Charles A. Gabriel
>George Washington and the American Military Tradition by Donald Higginbotham
>The Influence of Sea Power upon History, 1660-1783 by Alfred Thayer Mahan
>Monsoon by Robert D. Kaplan

Part 3:
>On War by Carl von Clausewitz
>Once an Eagle by Anton Myrer
>Principles of Maritime Strategy by Julian S. Corbett
>The Soldier and the State by Samuel P. Huntington
>The Starfish and the Spider by Ori Brafman
>Start with Why by Simon Sinek
>George C. Marshall by Mark A. Stoler

 No.9936

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 No.9937

>>9936
basically a chinese military work written way after sun tzus art of war

 No.9938

US Army Chief of Staff Professional Reading List 2017
https://amedd.libguides.com/c.php?g=566155&p=5067346

>The American Way of War by Russell F. Weigley

>The Art of War by Antoine-Henri Jomini
>The Art of War by Sun Tzu
>Brute Force by John A. Ellis
>The Campaigns of Napoleon by David G. Chandler
>Civil War Command and Strategy by Jones Archer; Archer Jones
>Frederick the Great on the Art of War by Jay Luvaas
>The Grand Design by Donald Stoker
>History of the United States Army revised (1984) by Russell F. Weigley
>How the North Won by Herman Hattaway; Archer Jones
>Infantry in Battle by Marshall
>Just War Reconsidered by James M. Dubik
>Makers of Modern Strategy by Peter Paret (Editor); Gordon A. Craig (Editor); Felix Gilbert (Editor)
>Man, the State, and War by Kenneth N. Waltz
>Masters of War by Michael I. Handel
>On War by Carl Von Clausewitz
>Reconsidering the American Way of War by Antulio J. Echevarria; Antulio J. Echevarria
>Restraint by Barry R. Posen
>The Soldier and the State by Samuel P. Huntington
>Some Principles of Maritime Strategy by Julian Stafford Corbett
>Strategy by Lawrence Freedman
>Strategy by B. H. Liddell Hart
>The Strategy of Conflict by Thomas C. Schelling
>War Comes to Long An by Jeffrey Race
>War in the Modern World since 1815 by Jeremy Black (Editor)

 No.9939

>>9938
>>9935
hmmmm interesting

 No.9942

This is kinda okay overview and synthases
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJgqgaM9Fd4

 No.9943

>>9942
>>9938
>>9936
>>9935
All very cool, nice

 No.9944

Surprised this hasn't been posted yet

 No.9959

>>5603
Order 227 is all you need to know comrade :xD Note that the article is not friendly to communism but you take what you think is correct from it.

 No.9960


 No.9965

>>9959
>>9960
Hm, these are quite good and simple to follow.
Thanks.

t.brainlet

 No.10015

>>5603
Eastory is worth watching if you're interested in military strategy in historical wars.

 No.10027

>>5778
>>Pull your aim down as you spray to compensate for recoil
>that's smart
easily impressed uigha. that's the most basic FPS technique.

 No.10205

>>9932
have a primary objective, and work back form there, in a way consistent with your conditions.

Like you have a goal, turn that into a plan. A plan has steps to reach the goal. This plan should be based on the reality of your abilities and some operating theory of how stuff works. From there, work on how to meet each step of the plan, and think about what could happen to have your plan change.

This is just off the top of my head though like basic logic, read anything here to have specific ideas. Knowledge comes from experience. But it seems like your problem is a total lack of a coordinated plan, because if you have a plan at all then it's a matter of cutting it into smaller and smaller levels of detail until it can direct your immediate action, then acting on that.

 No.10206

>>10015
>expecting an estonian to give an unbiased account of the Eastern front

 No.10960

>>5603
>From an officers perspective.
what is the class character of military officers ?
aren't they usually drawn from bourgeois or aristocratic ranks ?

 No.10961

>>10206
I've found him to be pretty good overall.


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