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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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Hello and welcome comrades! This is the new /read/ thread.

>What is /read/?

</read/ is a collective of marxist reading groups, hailing from /edu/ and /GET/. We are split into various different reading groups, each with different interests, goals and schedules.

We're making a new thread to let everyone know that /read/ is still very much alive. In fact, we're inviting everyone to join in for our new batch of readings! Our groups are done with previous readings, so this is the perfect time for new members to join up!

As of today, May 30th 2021, the /sniff/ group is done reading volume 1 of Capital. We have a new batch of readings planned (more on that in the post below), and all are invited to join. Meanwhile, the /tilmeeth/ group is gearing up to read Capital, so if anyone missed out on the first round, this is your chance.

As always, our website, containing our library and reading lists is: https://leftyread.neocities.org
And our Matrix Community, where all discussion happens, can be found at: https://matrix.to/#/+leftyread:matrix.org
Old thread: >>3624

Come /read/ with us!read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


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On the /sniff/ group's new reading list:

We've just finished reading volume 1 of Capital. Our plan now is to read that which we've nicknamed the "Class Struggle Trilogy", three works by Marx dealing with the same theme: the real politics of class struggle. The three works do this by analysing various events in the history of 19th century France. These works are:

>The Class Struggles in France, 1848 to 1850

>The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte
>The Civil War in France

The events discussed in the books range from the 1848 Revolution in France, to the 1852 reactionary coup by Louis Bonaparte, ending at the civil war and creation of the Paris Commune in 1871. These works (particularly the latter two) are very important for the study of revolutionary processes, and we're treating them as starting points to the reading of Lenin, who took these works as reference.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


Right now we're planning on having our discussion on the Class Struggles in France, 1848-1850 on Sunday June 6th, that is, one week from now. The date might be postponed depending on how fast we manage to read this thing. If you show up late do not worry - I'd argue this week's book is an optional reading, not required.

Ebooks are attached. Note the epub is a piece of crap (corrupted spelling, etc). The web version should be the closest substitute. It can be found at https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1850/class-struggles-france/

Come join us in the /sniff/ chat: https://matrix.to/#/+leftyread:matrix.orgread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


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/tilmeeth/ group update

Karl Marx looks down on his pupils as they learn one of his most important works. The tilmeeths are happy to announce that we are going to read Capital, thus we decided to open the gate for the public to join the group if you wish to read Capital as well.

The schedule and meeting times will be agreed upon in the following week along with a plan to finish Capital in an agreed upon period. You can join the tilmeeths matrix room using this link https://matrix.to/#/#leftyread2:matrix.org?via=matrix.org.

We're waiting for you.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


/tilmeeth/ group update

A reminder that we are inviting you to read capital with us.
We'll be discussing Chapter 1 on Saturday 12th, in which the whole week is open for members to leave their remarks and take note.
https://matrix.to/#/#leftyread2:matrix.org?via=matrix.orgread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


Quick /sniff/ update: We decided to push back our meeting on "Class Struggles in France" to next week.


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After a failed raid attempt by some /pol/ types, /read/ went through a purge to get rid of glowie lurkers. All inactive users have been kicked from our matrix rooms.

Kicked does not mean banned; anyone interested in participating can still rejoin.


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The /sniff/ group has finished discussing "Class Struggles in France, 1848-1850". Next up we'll be doing "The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte".

Anyone interested in reading one of the most important works of political analysis written by Marx is welcome to join. We'll be taking this one slowly despite it not being long at all. The plan right now is to read it over the course of a few weeks.

We're still deciding on what edition to read; The ebooks will be posted in this thread and our website soon.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


Here are some audiobook options:
From Marxists.org
I think this is the same version on youtube

Audiobook Versions (This version has a better narrator)

for a very short read on the subject by a modern historian
Roger Price- Napoleon III and the Second Empire

For some academic essays on Marx's Brumaire (also containing a modern translation), check out this book with its introductions:

Youtube discussions/lectures on Brumaire:

From Alpha To Omega's book discussion on 18th Brumaire:

2/1 Dylan Riley on "The 18th Brumaire of Donald Trump"

Historical Materialism Talk: Marx's The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte

Charisse Burden Stelly - The 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon

Aijaz Ahmad on Marx's political texts 2: The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte


The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte:
>(Questions from Edna Becher of Anakbayan-Europa NDLine Online School, Answers by Prof. Jose Maria Sison, May 23, 2021)

France Under Napoleon III
>In this segment of the AP European History we discuss France under Napoleon III. It was on the one hand a time of social reform and Hausmanization that is reconstruction of Paris that began to look as we know it today, on the other hand a time of unsuccessful or even disasterous foreign policy such a war in Crimea or Franco Prussian war that led to Napoleon's demise, and revolution.

Modern France (Lecture 5): 1848 and the Second Empire (Part of a decent documentary series on modern French history)


The full reading series on 18th Brumaire
From Alpha to Omega:


One more book to add:
>Dictatorship in History and Theory: Bonapartism, Caesarism, and Totalitarianism (Publications of the German Historical Institute)
c. pages 117-135 there is discussion of Marx and his ideas of bonapartism. some of the other essays look interesting


Quick update: for anyone using Matrix's new feature of Spaces, we've made a /read/ Space. This will, in the future, replace our community, as Matrix will deprecate communities in favor of spaces.

Link is https://matrix.to/#/#leftyreadmain:matrix.orggentooGentoo


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Update: We have finished reading and discussing The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte at the /sniff/ group. This week we will be reading and discussing Civil War in France, also by Marx. It's a fairly short work so we'll be doing it in a single week. If anyone wants to join and discuss with us, go to our chatroom, meeting is on sunday.

Ebooks are at https://leftyread.neocities.org/library/marx/civil-war-france.html

Note that the above ebooks include more than just the main body of text known as Civil War in France. There are two earlier addresses to the International Workers Association and a later Introduction by Engels. Treat these as optional, the main text starts on the third address.


why don't you uyghas join an IRL bookclubegoismEgoism


>going outside


man this book is a FUCKING BANGER

i love it, great way to wrap up our marx list before leninmarxMarx


There are none here. I founded a book club before but after a couple of months people weren't interested anymore.


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So we just finished discussing Civil War in France. Meeting went quite well, interesting questions and points raised and we ended up going out on some good tangents. This concludes our readings of the works of Marx and Engels, at least for now. Next up we will be reading Lenin. We still have to decide on the full reading list, but we're starting with State and Revolution, and the meeting will be Sunday, August 8th, at 10 PM UTC. I repeat:


Anyone is welcome to join. We already got a couple new members this week (after slowly bleeding members over time), so this looks like it will be fun. If anyone has any questions about how the group works etc, ask away. We'll be glad to have you join us!lenin_capLenin Cap


Here's the first proposal for a Lenin reading list. We'll discuss this in chat and decide whether to follow it or not.

>The State and Revolution

>Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism
>What is to be Done?
>"Left Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder
>The Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky
>Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution
>April Theses
>The Right of Nations to Self-Determinationlenin_capLenin Cap


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oh yeah here's a related reading chart for Lenin. I like the secondary lit recommendations.


moderation? i just want to /read/!

Troublesome times for this site, but we're carrying on the reading group alright. Tonight we had our discussion of Lenin's State and Revolution. Great book, great discussion. Seriously impressed by this one and it was very rewarding to read this book after having done Engels' "Origin of the Family…" and Marx's "18th Brumaire…" and "Civil War in France". State and Revolution is like the culmination of all of those.

Next up we will be reading "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism". As usual, meetings are on our Matrix chat on Sundays at 10 PM UTC. It's getting late now so the website update with the ebooks will come tomorrow.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


site updated, ebooks are up

the pdf sucks so get the epubread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book


Brief update on scheduling: We've decided to postpone our discussion of Lenin's Imperialism to Aug 22. That means two weeks for reading.


bump cause migration to .org messed up catalog

We're reading Lenin's "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism" this week, discussion on Aug 22 @ 10PM UTC


Discussion of "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism" is complete. Next up we will be reading Lenin's "What Is to Be Done?". Meeting as scheduled for September 12, with the goal of discussing the whole book in one go. This plan is subject to change; there is a possibility we'll split up the book in two and have one meeting on the 5th and a final one on the 12th. Thread will be updated if change occurs.

Ebooks and updated schedule are up at: https://leftyread.neocities.org/schedules/read/index.html


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Discussion on Lenin's "What Is To Be Done?" complete. We're proposing a few changes to the reading list. We'll skip "Two Tactics…" and read the remaining books in chronological order of publication. We also added "Dual Power" to the list. This makes our list of upcoming readings:

- The Right of Nations to Self-determination
- April Theses
- The Dual Power
- The Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky
- "Left Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder

The first three pieces are actually fairly short, so we'll be reading them all for next meeting on the 20th. Meeting is, as usual, on Sunday at 10 PM UTC.


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Discussion on The Right of Nations to Self-determination, The April Theses and The Dual Power complete. Next up, we'll be reading The Proletarian Revolution and The Renegade Kautsky. Meeting is on the 25th. We're looking into changing the time from the usual 10 PM UTC. Might meet at 7 or 8 PM, we'll see.


We got ourselves a new website! The old neocities has been delet, and with us starting the marxists.xyz project, all our content has been moved to that site instead.


peeps, don't forget to start reading vols II and III of Capital.


We'll be reading Vol2 as soon as we finish Lenin, I believe. That should be a couple weeks from now.


Reading and discussion of "Renegade Kautsky" complete. We'll be doing "'Left-wing' communism: an infantile disorder" next.


We just finished reading "'Left-wing' Communism: An Infantile Disorder by Lenin, which thus concludes our initial readings of Lenin! Next up we'll be doing Capital v2.


hey, i'm sorry to be asking such a dumb question, but what do reading groups do? Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it and then move on to different books? Or do you exchange books but still require of members to read them? I imagine it helps a lot with finishing to read them and after that discussing the helps better understand them, yes?


>Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it and then move on to different books?
That's about right. Reading groups are quite flexible and you could organize one in a myriad of ways, but our method thus far has been: 1) agree collectively on a little reading list, about a subject or author we are interested in 2) start reading 3) meet up regularly (weekly, biweekly) to discuss the previously agreed upon readings 4) at each meeting, schedule the next meeting and decide what must be read until then. This usually results in weekly meetings, in which we talk for a couple of hours about our weekly reading of 30 to 100 pages, depending on the book. A book like Capital requires we take a slower pace, of 30-40 pages a week, but something like Lenin's State and Revolution can be done in a single week if everyone has the time/availability.

>I imagine it helps a lot with finishing to read them and after that discussing the helps better understand them, yes?

That is true. Not only is it helpful in the sense of ensuring everyone is on the same page, and that each is helping each other understand the book better, but it's also good to just come up with critiques and formulate ideas as a group. Friendly debates and so on are quite good to have.


>Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it


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>Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it

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