Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 23:51:40 No. 6283
we right here bruh
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 23:51:41 No. 6284
>>6282 why not read an intro/overview of philosophy book?
im sure some anons here could recommend one, or just look up whatever textbook is normally used for philosophy 101 or whatever
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 23:53:32 No. 6285
>>6284 >why not read an intro/overview of philosophy book? If you have one such book then shoot
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 23:55:48 No. 6287
Read a book brainlet
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:02:00 No. 6288
>>6287 I literally just said I already have dozens of books to read you cocksucker.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:03:55 No. 6289
>>6286 This does give me direction. Thank you.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:04:59 No. 6291
>>6288 Oh no 12 books!
Jesus christ what a brainlet. Sage
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:08:26 No. 6293
>>6291 It's more than 50. Learn to sage uygha.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:08:56 No. 6294
>>6290 Leave and never return, filth.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:09:31 No. 6295
>>6290 >1984 >animal farm >atlus shrugged oh no no no
>burke got BTFO by thomas paine about france
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:09:44 No. 6296
>>6290 It's funny because any /pol/ack actually reading at all is already an anomaly.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:21:32 No. 6299
>>6297 Thank you. I'm not planning to chronologically read through all the works of philosophy, so if it's just one or two books summarizing it, I'm fine with it.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 00:22:08 No. 6300
>>6293 is more than that but there is really no way to actually learn philosophy without reading philosophy
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 01:30:38 No. 6303
>>6282 Read Plato's Sophist, Parmenides Republic, and Timaeus
Read Aristotle's Politics (very based) and Nicomachean Ethics
>I didn't want to learn philosophy by reading a bunch of books Oh wait, you're a retard. I guess I won't be giving you more suggestions then
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 01:36:26 No. 6304
>>6303 Do you think I have all that free time to read through the entire bibliography of all the important works in philosophy? Use your fucking brain moron, I just want a generalized overview. You people are insufferable rejects.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 01:39:26 No. 6305
>>6304 But why? Do you have a big school project coming up?
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 01:54:05 No. 6306
>>6305 I already have like 50 books I'm trying to get through. Right now I just want a broad overview. If it were just one more book, it would be no biggie.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 01:55:50 No. 6307
>>6306 just read capital dimwit
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 02:16:44 No. 6309
>>6304 >>6306 Philosophy is a lifelong endeavor. Just start reading a little bit. Some parts don't make sense for years until you have the right experience.
This is probably the best lecture to speedrun greeks->modern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ_hUxuumk0&list=PL6676C3E8A487FEE6 I recommend googling questions that interest you and reading papers or listening to lectures and podcasts while you do other things. Just do it casually and you will end up knowing more than 90% of people.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 02:22:39 No. 6310
>>6309 >lectures That's a good idea, yeah I can roll with that. I wanted to read philosophy, but at best I have time for that next year.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 02:25:07 No. 6311
>>6299 Sure bro, the attached pdf History of Western Philosophy isn't too long, the author is a lib (his take on Marx is meh) but it goes from the ancient greeks to the 20th century. Spirkin's book goes much deeper into marxist philosophy. The other books are also interesting.. the history of ancient philosophy, Lenin's notes on philosophy and Ilyenkov's history of dialectics. There's also Hegel's Lectures on the History of Philosophy, which I also need to read.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hp/hpconten.htm Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 02:31:23 No. 6312
Partially Examined Life and Philosophize This are good intro podcasts for longer discussions of a huge variety of topics. You can get podcast apps that do 1.5x or 2x speed or find lectures on youtube and you can also use text to speech apps on articles or papers so you can listen while you work or commute and save time.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 03:15:18 No. 6313
>>6282 What kinda experience do you want from philosophy? It really depends on what you're looking for. If you want to feel like you can know nothing and want to feel the powerlessness, try David Hume's Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding. If you want an introduction to the methods of living "the good life", Epicureanism and Stoicism. If you wanna be a Marxist and get the hang of dialectics, start with some of Plato's dialogues like Euthyphro and
pay attention to how the initial claim of Socrates' partner is forced into a corner or developed through introspection. If you really dunno just stick with Plato and try whatever, like Gorgias. Every good intro book to philosophy is meant for you to read the primary text at some point. The goal of philosophy is to get you to think for yourself and develop your sense of reason, so no book can summarize the lessons for you, unless you're just trying to do a history of philosophy.
Believe it or not, the first part of that /pol/ infographic isn't a bad start
>>6290 but it clearly was made by someone who either thought it was a good idea to recommend Critique of Pure Reason and Practical Reason by themselves without proper context, and just dump the Phenomenology there. Kant and Hegel is goatse for the mind, and you need prep–for Kant I recommend Groundwork/Grounding/Foundations on the Metaphysics of Morals and What is Enlightenment to get a sense of his broader project before you get screwed. Good luck with Hegel.
christian_communism Christian Communism Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 03:18:01 No. 6314
>>6313 *That /pol/ infographic was made with someone who thought you can just read Kant and Hegel's most challenging works by themselves, or more likely just dropped their important works on there without actually having read them
christian_communism Christian Communism Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 06:06:19 No. 6318
>>6290 >>6296 I think one of /ourguys/ made this in order to dupe the tards at /pol/ into reading Marx
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 06:15:33 No. 6319
>>6282 Ok OP, I assume you want to get into philosophy as some sort of of hobby and that's fine, but realize that this will not replace some formal education in philosophy. Now first I would advise you to read "Elementary Prinicples of Philosophy" by Georges Politzer (pdf attached). Gets over the basic terminology in wider philosophy from a marxist perspective.
Second I attached you a pdf that was essentially a philosophy project by 4/lit/. Its 4chan but actually pretty decent so yeah read it.
I will attach a huge reading list that goes over western philosophy chronologically in my next post, because it is too big
>>6297 Nice ressources. Where did you find out about them?
>>6286 That reads like a mass-produced infographic that you'll see on reddit on some r/coolguides subreddit. Ok, but not really good
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 06:32:43 No. 6323
There's no point in doing it, you won't impress anyone with it you will just waste a lot of time on stupid shit that does not matter anymore.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 06:55:37 No. 6325
>>6324 >I want it to be easy peasy lemon squeezy You just saw the amount of pages and didn't even skimm it, right?
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 07:22:44 No. 6326
>>6325 do you have the others, the links at the end are defaced
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 07:31:05 No. 6328
>>6327 God the lit marx pdf has some of the worst takes
> Based Harvey who is top tier lmfao
acceleration Acceleration Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 07:33:45 No. 6329
>>6328 Yeah, I don't like it too. But I expect this board to already know their shit about marxism.
>NOOOO you can't understand Capital without Hegel I mean certain parts, fit that description. Lenin thought so too, so not that uncommon to hear
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 07:36:06 No. 6330
>>6329 While I think that quote is pointless, it was more the contradiction between saying > you don't understand Capital without Hegel and then saying Harvey (who butcher's Marx's value) lectures are top tier for reading Capital
Could be multiple retards swarming their takes tho
acceleration Acceleration Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 07:39:27 No. 6331
>>6330 Yeah bro, you just have to read the original document. Every fucking /pol/tard was smearing their shit in there. Especially the marxist and continental one. I think this is as good as it can get
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 08:58:56 No. 6332
>>6331 >>6330 >>6329 >>6328 Lenin was wrong in saying that. I think he was enthusiastic after reading Hegel's Logic and discovering it was insightful. To be honest his reading of Hegel is nothing special.
Marx's Capital is first and foremost a political project. Marx started it because he was a communist. Capital is not a project created for academics, it's a gift to the working class and it exists for their benefit. Marx took special care to ensure that Capital was didactic; on every page you will find examples, metaphors, footnotes, and repetition throughout the text. The first edition even had a special appendix fleshing out the concept of the value form in a step-by-step manner for readers that had trouble with the first chapter; in subsequent editions the chapter was rewritten to be easier to understand (but not any less meaningful). Capital doesn't require much more of the reader than a sturdy grasp of their native language and a willingness to learn.
More details here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/articles/cyril.htm Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 18:13:45 No. 6333
>>6332 I don't think you have to READ Hegel but its important to understand what he is doing and where he is situated in history, who he is responding to and why, and how his arguments are structured in relation to that history.
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 18:53:02 No. 6335
>>6334 >bloomsburry Idk what the deal with this publisher is. Are they leftist or not?
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 19:01:56 No. 6336
>>6335 idk and i don't care i read this book in german and looked up the english version
Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 20:19:55 No. 6338
>>6333 >>>/edu/6247 If you care about putting Capital in context, understanding his relationship to other socialists of the period is arguably more relevant
Anonymous 2021-11-13 (Sat) 12:58:01 No. 8658
Is the stanford encyclopedia of philosophy a good resource for learning philosophy?
https://plato.stanford.edu/ Anonymous 2021-11-21 (Sun) 23:40:24 No. 8719
Once my sociology teacher told me (if I recall correctly , I may add) that Kant's criticism was responsible for ending the empiricism/rationalism schism, by stating that they can both very much work together in the search for knowledge. But, since then, I haven't seen this idea being brought up at all when talking about him, and even being challenged by some (though these are usually randian tards).
Anonymous 2022-04-05 (Tue) 04:56:33 No. 10295
>>6282 Thought id offer aome stuff on south asian philosophy
>https://historyofphilosophy.net/series/classical-indian-philosophy ^Offers a great overview into indian philosophy and has other stuff available as well like Chinese/islamic.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51247270-classical-indian-philosophy -A book by the professor (Peter S.Adamson) who creates the podcast entirely dedicated to south asian philosophy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3HmDhfOLo A good comprehensive starter video on hinduism.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/143877.Freedom_from_the_Known -Jiddu Krishnamurti is a really well known thinker, if you're a fan of work of Aldous Huxley (brave new world-author) then you'll like his writing (they were good friends). Alan Watts was very fond of him as well.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/551750.Who_Am_I_ -Ramana Maharshi is pretty cool too
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/639864.Autobiography_of_a_Yogi You can usually find the books for free if you search up the title of it and add
pdf version in the end.
Anonymous 2022-09-18 (Sun) 14:32:41 No. 11680
>>11677 Cool, I‘m reading it. What I noticed first is how confused I was at what exactly the confusion or contradiction was about. Sure rationalism as opposed to empiricism but where is the issue? Until I read
So that was an epiphany at that time. It would be nice to have a complete understanding of what exactly people at a time believed/knew or didn‘t know. I didn‘t get the confusion or dispute at first.
Anonymous 2022-09-19 (Mon) 02:24:34 No. 11681
>>11507 Manuel DeLanda
You can watch a lot of his lectures on youtube.
Anonymous 2022-09-21 (Wed) 17:46:14 No. 11692
>>11677 Great read. Anything else?
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