Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 15:51:31 No. 10246
when can we get the L-NPP yockey coalition ?
Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 15:52:18 No. 10247
When LaRouche becomes President
Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 15:55:51 No. 10248
Yock and Hall torture time
Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 16:34:43 No. 10254
Tbh I feel like the devs are gonna remove the DSR path, I'm pretty sure they already said the DSR won't be Khmer Rouge for the Nazis anymore. Feel like they may incorporate the DSR into Bormann's and/or Speer's paths based on already exisiting content and toosers.
The RAF kills one of Bormann's minister near the end of his path, the RAF could probably come into power either after Borman dies or if the Nazi's lose the 2WRW badly
In the Speer tooser (
) for Europa's Narben the Communist resistence seems to be given more prominence so its possible that the DSR could be one of the paths of Go4 germany
Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 16:54:52 No. 10255 >>10253
Krasnacht seems interesting but I hate how the devs are constantly reworking the lore, feels like it'll never come out at this rate and it'll just be a tooser mod.
Their most recent rework is now instead of "fixing" the KR lore ,such as not having the retarded Balkans war happen or removing other parts of KR's jankey lore, they're going to stick closer to the KR lore. Sorta like the Kalterkrieg mod also being developed.
I do like their socialist ideologies though, provides more nuance especially with subideologies.
The based KR cold war mod is l'Ordre Nouveau (
) which is a Russian developed mod. The cold war is between National Syndicalist Third international vs Russia which is in a coalition between Right-SR Savinkov and the Bolsheviks lead by Bukharin. America also becomes a bunch of warlords, Japan also controls most of East Asia.
Check out their dev diaries, they're really high quality
Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 19:32:46 No. 10267
/leftypol/ rework of TNO when?
Anonymous 2021-06-22 (Tue) 22:51:35 No. 10272
What is the fucking point? just start from scratch. or even better, don't.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 11:46:47 No. 10292 >>10253
Krasnacht is basically on life support right now. Most of the original people went away because Bukharina decided to simp for the original Kaiserreich retcons instead of doing their own thing.
At this rate both Cursed Days and Red Night have a better chance of being released than Krasnacht.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 14:44:28 No. 10294
I think the main issue with the anarchy path as it is now is the devs basically boxed them into a corner by making them more or less the "bad ending" for central siberia (akin to the 'aryans'/'hyperboreans' or clockman for west russia, Omsk or an insanely mismanaged stalinboo squadron for WestSib or Radkovsky for the Far-East)
The Free territory's event chains no matter if you choose to go down the AnarchoCom/Syn route or the platformist route allude to them killing straght up thousands of people which no other CentSib unifier does
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 16:44:48 No. 10297 >>10292
Yeah apparently there was like a schism in the Krasnacht team with those dissatisfied with Fenia's leadership because they thought the team wasn't productive enough but also because of the rework, with the dev team having a leadership vote. The faction dissatisfied with Fenia lost and left the mod team.
kek Sheeve, the guy who started the mod, got cucked out of his own mod and left
The rework is dumb and apparently the devs didn't even do that much work anyways, so maybe the faction complaining about productivity did have a point…
>a fellow Cursed Day and Red Night fan
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 16:49:48 No. 10298
>>10245 >Chomsky Forioegn minister
So we are starting a bunch of foreign wars still
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 16:55:31 No. 10299 >>10265
The France paths look so good, I love how the l'ON give a failstate path to every path and in some you can even recover in the failstate path
The Doriot failstate path where he uses the jackals like Mao used the Red Guards to regain his power in China, is incredibly based.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 17:01:54 No. 10300
Yep from the leak:
>Epton’s goal is: <destroying all vestiges of American imperialism, <reforming American culture and society, <and accelerating the collapse of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. >Whilst the first and third goals may seem to conflict, they, in fact, do not actually oppose each other.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 17:17:00 No. 10303
Isn't Doriot a rightoid with speedy characteristics though? At least to me he didn't seem that based. My take away was:
>Doriot <Slightly unhinged Italian fascist with some progressive characteristics >Deat <"Moderate" who can be anything from slightly reformed corporatist syndicalist to Stalinist (economically) in all but name >Nizan <The communist idealogue who will drag France away from syndicalism kicking and screaming
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 18:20:32 No. 10305
If I remember correctly the TNO team are going to do an eventual rework of Japan and East Asia in The Setting Sun since Japan right now is in a horrendously unifinished state.
They had a Japan team lead who they had to kick out because apparently they were a Imperial Japan apologist, and then the Japan team lead they had after kept bullshitting about the progress. Making the rest of the devs think Japan was more develeoped than it actually was which has resulted in Japan being this unifished mess.
Not sure if Kaya's path as we know it will survive the rework considering how much Italy is being changed in its rework.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 18:38:10 No. 10306 >>10303
I don't think Doriot has his irl shift to the right in the l'ON timeline, anyways even if hes a bit cringe I still find his path interesting and will give it a play since it seems fun having France go through a Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution
However Nizan is probably the leader I agree with the most. If France goes down Nizan's path, and Russia goes down a Bolshevik path I wonder if there's a chance for detente. Probably not since Maximist UoB is l'ON's version of Burgundy in which the UoB foreign policy is to use spies to fuck relations between other countries.
Talking about Nizan I just realised the one of his foci is Donovan from Berserk lmao the l'ON devs really make some of the best focus icons out of any HoI 4 mod
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 18:51:29 No. 10307
>>10306 >Donovan from Berserk
I assume thats the boulder? Not familiar woth Berserk, so I presumed it was some sort of illuatration of Kamiu's Myth of Sysiphus.
I personally noticed the Doriot icons. Aren't like 2 of them at least pics of the girl from Léon? If so, really based taste of the devs.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 18:54:40 No. 10308
Barracks 'communism' isn't a good thing you nutjob.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 18:58:46 No. 10309
>>10253 >the dev team seems to be pretty based
If I remember correctly the head dev and writing leader are both leftcoms of the italian tradition which is pretty cool I guess.
Y'know is there a HoI 4 mod thats been developed by MLs? I remember that TWR's Soviet Union was developed by a Maoist (which is why Khrushchev was a Socdem in TWR lol) but they're currently reworking TWR's Soviet Union now
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 19:06:19 No. 10312
And look how great that turned out.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 19:42:02 No. 10313
Kaya / Spartan Federation from SMAC stan here, it depends on the barrack communism. Polpotism is basically just insanity, however arranging society into a startocratic state where the military government provides direct provision (aka abolishes commodity production) to all of its citizens, that is united together by a single espirit-de-corps vision of collective future? Yes, that is, in my opinion, a very good arrangement. Perhaps not as good as the Soviet version of socialism and definitely not the more utopic (and hopefully one day successful) communism that abolishes not only commodity production, but also work, but this kind of barrack communism is still VERY good civilizational outcome, at least when compared to the current global capitalist system.
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 20:42:07 No. 10314
>>10313 >however arranging society into a startocratic state where the military government provides direct provision (aka abolishes commodity production) to all of its citizens, that is united together by a single espirit-de-corps vision of collective future? Yes, that is, in my opinion, a very good arrangement.
So still preserving class society and the division of labour? Thats not Communism at all, completely trash
Please read Principles of Communism anon, its just a 20 min read
Anonymous 2021-06-23 (Wed) 20:43:28 No. 10315
Yep Dononvan's face is the boulder, yeah the devs have based taste, lots of great references they sneak in
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 03:09:12 No. 10321
The first red flag to me was when one ex-dev spoke out in a teaser about how unproductive the entire team was at the time of his own departure and got immediately downvoted to oblivion. The team under felina spent months just reworking portraits and focus symbols when even the story and paths hasn’t even been completed.
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 09:02:39 No. 10326
>>10306 >Maximist UoB is l'ON's version of Burgundy
I assumed the idea was that they were self ascribed social imperialists? As I recall they were described as being aspiring to recreate the old British empire with the end goal of pillaging the rest of the world so that mainland Britain could be a "communist" utopia through the wealth stolen from everyone else.
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 09:12:49 No. 10327
>>10247 >When LaRouche becomes President
Build all the Bridges
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 09:47:05 No. 10330
Is this a leak for when Kaya gets a proper path instead of being insta-couped?
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 13:01:11 No. 10332
is the cold war mod still cringe?
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 13:15:32 No. 10333
Old DD path of his for when he goes hardball reformist
Anonymous 2021-06-26 (Sat) 05:42:03 No. 10373
>>10297 >Actually working first strike and factional voting systems
Now I’m interested. Better than the scripted visual novel TNO did and less buggy than TWR nuking.
Anonymous 2021-06-27 (Sun) 05:24:36 No. 10408
These types of players are even mocked by 4channers, what's your point?
Anonymous 2021-06-27 (Sun) 06:15:29 No. 10409
but i need these games for larping purposes
Anonymous 2021-06-27 (Sun) 06:37:46 No. 10410
>>10406 >catholic prussia
also why would you play the game to larp when you raze everything like a no-life min maxer?
very flawed testimony, i doubt this fool has ever played a paradox game without cheats
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 08:52:35 No. 10495
And what am I supposed to play while I listen to Harvey capital lectures?
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 09:03:45 No. 10496
You don't want to play vidya while watching lectures. It really fucks up your concentration to follow along and you won't get much out of it. Also David Harvey is a eurocom pseud who denies LTV. He might be good in some areas, but I would highly advise to study Capital solo, without any outside influances that might revise Marxs work unintentiomally via ignorance or deliberately due to their tendency.
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 13:08:25 No. 10503
I like how the world goes dark, province by province, divisions upon divisions being pushed outwards as "forbidden territory" expands, flailing against each other in pointless battles when pushed into the same tile.
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 14:07:56 No. 10505
Yep, it's definitely a cool effect. I like the post-script events too (like the Moon one). Makes me want some kind of post-TNO apocalyptic HOI. But then I'm desperate for more HOI mods in general (that are actually fun and good and relatively developed).
Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 15:29:51 No. 10508
I know the problems with Harvey and I'm also studying Capital solo I'm just also following the lectures along to refresh and see if I missed anything.
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 07:56:20 No. 10538
Could anyone help me out with manually installing TNO to my cracked HOI4 version? I think I am getting fucked by a bad descriptor file. If I use the mod tools and don't replace the default created descriptor file, the mod crashes while loading up the game. If I replace the 2 descriptor files, it doesn't seem to recognize the mod and just launches default HOI4. Also the cracked dowser launcher always fails to launch the game, so I have to do it manually through .exe, maybe that has something to do with it. So if anyone can be so kind, could you paste here the text data from the 2 descriptor files you are using?
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 08:03:13 No. 10539 >>10538
Scratch that. I'm such a fucking retard. I fixed up the descriptor file myself. And to think I could have been playing TNO all these years, well, a year, but still, I finally fucking fixed it. Feeling like Bart from that "Ichy and Scratchy" the movie episode where he finally sees it at 80 or whatever.
So, who should I play first? Khruschev, Suslov or Zhukov?
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 09:02:34 No. 10540
Be glad that you do not have to face the bugs that were there before the current patch.
Khrushchev path is incomplete.
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 10:34:08 No. 10541
Yeah look on the bright side, you have a much more feature-complete game than what we played at launch.
Clearly your first game should be blessed and wholesome Sablin
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 14:23:36 No. 10542
make the libs seeth, play Buhkarinist Sablin
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 14:44:47 No. 10543
They need to change Hall's party's name to 'CPUSA' and just make a minor writing change where it says something like "The NPP did not field their own candidate this year choosing to instead encourage their voters to support CPUSA candidate gus-hall"
And i guess the schizo retard to something like "American-Nazi-party" eureka Eureka
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 14:52:23 No. 10544
The only thing that makes me seethe is your spelling
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 16:47:24 No. 10550
>>10542 >>10541 >>10540
Started with a Suslov run. Currently in the '67s regional unification stage with Black League, Yuriy Krylov and Mikhail being the other contenders.
Not doing Bukharinist Sablin because that sounds dengist. Might do libsoc run, though. Thinking of doing either Birch HMMLR or Hall US next, though I might save that for later since US seems like a really well developed nation.
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 18:45:01 No. 10553
Birch doesn't have a focus tree BTW. So I wouldn't bother.
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 19:01:12 No. 10554
>>10550 >Not doing Bukharinist Sablin because that sounds dengist.
It isn't. The authsoc path for Sablin is based. You shoot Yagoda, build roads, own the radlibs, reform the NKVD and drop the Trotskyite/Idealist dribble which is the Libsoc path.
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 20:33:03 No. 10555
The libsoc path is clearly better though. In fact that applies for pretty much every country, the only way to interpret the game otherwise is to be deliberately edgy.
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 21:24:32 No. 10556
Just finished my first run as Suslov. Feeling mixed. I think over all he is probably the most based unifier, at least from what I've heard of the others. Its not wacky at all, but the things he does - clamping down on revisionists, controlling the bureaucrats, beating in party discipline - all really good. Also if I am not mistaken there was a hint that he will be pursuing OGAS, which, if true, instantly makes him the best. And all of this with minimal bloodshed. Though there was a feel that he was just a bit too technocratic with how he doesn't really care about soviet power more than OTL soviets. Hence I wonder how well would libsoc Sablin (or just Sablin when he gets updated) compare. But what I was really bummed out about is the drop in quality for content after Komi stage. I guess West Russia + regional focus tree were lowkie good also, but not as good at the start. They really could have added more flavour for characters, and especially Suslov himself, as now all we get are a couple "bureaucrats am I rite?" events, a few events about the economics minister and events describing the focuses, but there never seemed to be any dynamic or anything. And then the super regional stage is basically barren. I guess the reunification content wasn't that fleshed out yet.
Anyway, I also got United Arab Republic and commie Iran to form in my game so that is kinda based. Also gamer Borman long-knifing all dissidents only to spark more unrest in Germany, and LBJ going all the way to end racism and creating a welfare state… only to be replaced in 72 by neocon Kirkpatrick, which is honestly both really realistic, and in my opinion would create a really interesting timeline here for second decade, where Germany and Japan burn to the ground (first because of 2nd WRW, and second because of GAW), with US going on an interventionist rampage and becoming a CIA police state that is basically a weaker version of its OTL self and slowly reorientating itself towards conflict with the resurgent Soviets (who I chose to go anti-imperialist) in what becomes a more evenly mached and more interesting version of OTL cold war.
Doesn't Bukharinist = lowkie dengist in TNO? As in not full market reformist, but more than willing to allow for private farming or coops to exist?
Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 23:52:05 No. 10557
>>10550 >Thinking of doing either Birch HMMLR or Hall US next
Eh, Birch doesn't have a focus tree like
said, as for Hall, he doesn't really have any content either, his focus tree is supposed to be a preview of how he'll be when his full content tree comes out, whenever that will be
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 01:54:06 No. 10558
Suslov is just a boring vanilla M-L so I'm not surprised you found it kinda dull. Well, I mean, I know I'm biased, but still.
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 08:12:22 No. 10571
anyone here ever play superpower 2
Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 16:33:39 No. 10576
I played Egypt and turned it into the richest and most populous country in the world. This was largely the result of immigration and the fact that everyone else had declining birthrates. Honestly have no clue where they are putting 700 million people in that country.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 16:09:36 No. 10610
Finished a Big Chungus run after Suslov. Honestly I am disapointed. I was expecting a close-to-but-not-tragically heroic story where every choice in keeping the chungus score high and unwholesome score low would be a nail-bitter that could really backfire, or is really risky not to implement, or whatever. Instead I got a bunch of frat boys (and girls) getting shitfaced after every unification stage with a grumpy Buyrat and a grumpier Luxembourgist economist trying to get you to pass reasonable reforms that hit your chungus score. Love to get yelled at when I implement a centealized school system. But all of that is writting that gets changed regardless, so fuck it. My bigger problems is with his policies. Most of them are good, but there are two stinkers.
1) His economic policy. I am specifically talking about the chungus path. The more centralized one is ok I guess. Mainly, it stinks to me of Titoism and Wolfism (or more specifically Vaushism), where the idea of getting worker coops is put above the actual people of the country, and a window is opened for a free market to exist. Suslov was just slightly cringe for not letting unions get more power, however some amount of Soviet power without a "free producers" market is more favourable in my view than a coop economy a la Sablin.
2) Democratization. An even bigger bungle, and further proof that Sablin was just a liberal circlejerk dream. Representative democracy is reactionary, and a one way ticket towards an eventual oligarchy. Once again, Suslovs OTLish USSR structure isn't that amazing, but it is better than Sablins liberalism.
3) No OGAS. Literally fuck off unless you have OGAS. Suslov has implied plans for it (and an OTL history of support for it), Sablin "might" do it some time later. Sorry honey, but that isn't good enough.
Also in general I found Sablin path to be more boring gameplay wise than Suslov. Suslov is sparse as well, but he has a one banger of a start. Sablin just has a short war against Yagoda and thats it. Minimal managment problems, no real drama with the party wings, maybe just a bit of flavour in the foci for taking out Men. Only highlights were the trial scenes (especially Mikhail).
Gameplay - slightly worse than Suslov
Basedness - somewhat worde than Suslov
Story - worse than Suslov
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 17:52:01 No. 10612
I honestly didn't mind the Sablin route, it's a bit of a lib circlejerk, yes, but then I'm something of a lib myself, so I enjoyed that well enough. I agree that the choice between 'blessed and cursed' should be a bit more difficult but on the other hand, any amount of mechanical disadvantage doesn't really matter if you're a sufficiently good player. Even if all the 'blessed' options gave you no bonuses you could still eventually win. So I don't know.
Also, I prefer direct democracy to representative democracy, but even still, democracy is important.
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 18:08:00 No. 10613
>>10610 >2) Democratization. An even bigger bungle, and further proof that Sablin was just a liberal circlejerk dream. Representative democracy is reactionary
Isn't it possible for only socialist parties to actually run as candidates in elections?
Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 21:17:03 No. 10614
Nah, he goes multi-party system.
Agreed about it not mattering much gameplay wise, but it can matter naratively. For instance, event about some reactionaries murdering a bunch of Sablinites and getting away with it if you didn't reintegrate the NKVD, or maybe fucking up your education level growth if you go with the regional option. Or just "a day in a life" event that describes how the big chungus free producers union fucks over the consumers or bungles a state infrastructure project via underdelivering the quota for resourcess.
Also I think I said before, but I got a bit of a fanfic OC vibe from him. How there is always a joke about him drinking vodka. How he magically is always present in all events like that small protest in Novosibirsk from a worker council, even though at that time he should be in Ulan-Ude doing state work like any real leader. Or how about the meme of him running his entire administration from a frathouse party member opera even after beating Yagoda all the way to unification. Now, if there were events detailing how he actually "grows up" in order to fill the boots of being an actual leader, then that would be good writting, but now its just kind of silly.
Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 00:52:40 No. 10616
Play big chungus Stalin man, Lazar Kaganovich and remove the alt-history bukharinist cringe that destroyed the Soviet Union
Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 04:16:14 No. 10620
>>10610 >No OGAS
I don't think TNO Russia has the technological ability to do OGAS.
Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 06:09:28 No. 10621
I'll give it a shot some time, but will most likely go Cornman path. From what I've heard Lazar seems to be a bit too autistically authoritarian. Purging Bukharinism is based, but at the end of the day Suslov basically achieves the same result, as his USSR very much is the OTL stalinist (well, more like post-Stalin hardliner) one, just not in name. The other two I might try are Bukharina and Zhukov. I think the later might just be a shittier version of all the others, as at the end of the day he is a military man without a civilian government, but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, yesterday I did an IRA Ireland run. Even whit Twomey couping the IRA left, it is still pretty fucking based. It's really cool how they describe the revolution happening and the old government collapsing. Not to mension how it was cool to see ICG plot blow over and seeing the Garta totally outplayed. Will be cool to see future content added in for him later, hope there will be sort of left-IRA take over path that pushes Twomey back to the sideline, but even if not, his own plan of "Making Ireland into the IRA and vice versa" is still kinda based, even if he doesn't call himself a proper socialist or marxist. Also liked the little touch of Molotovs being renamed to Zhdanovs.
Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 12:30:12 No. 10627
>My last red flood game. >Jan 1st 1946 >The State of Time (Me) Conquered everything between the east bank of Kiev and the sea of Japan (I killed all of China and Russia and pushed to Korea but it got to 46' before i organised a naval invasion of the home isles) >our other geographic borders is the himalyan border with the State of the Avatar in India (Devi killed Churchill then swallowed India, Burma and Thailand but got cockblocked from killing china by me). >Artuad killed both the Brit'in and the germs AND the intermarium and now the league basically owns western europe up to the west bank of kiev >America went Liberal and did nothing the whole game except imperialism in central america Cold war mod when? Anyway i saw a new country i didn't know could spawn before (Siberian-peoples-Republic) during it some im gonna go for a Maoist / Revisionist Russia next game. eureka Eureka
Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 12:46:21 No. 10628
>>10614 >Nah, he goes multi-party system.
Yeah, but doesn't he only allow socialist parties to run?
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 15:28:21 No. 10659
How much of a pain in the ass is it to get Gus Hall and have both majorities in the House and Senate? And why does Hall make the redditoids seethe so much?
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 16:24:14 No. 10660
Not sure how much of a pain in the ass it is, however, IIRC, you have to go down right-wing paths and deliberately fuck 'em up in order to get Gus Hall as President
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 16:38:17 No. 10661
>>10659 >Why does Hall make redditors seethe so much?
Because he is bad ok? Because mod devs said so he is bad you dig, dog???
But in reality it is because TNO very much is a radlib-dominant mod, perhaps more left than that when you consider the "outsider" communities that love it, like us, but for the average TNO player the idea of an openly anti-LGBTQ is the ultimate trigger that for them acts as a recognisable "red-brown" fascist dogwhistle. Like hell, try to cancel Zhukov (or is it Suslov, don't recal now) for not having an LGBTQ social law change in his focus tree.
Secondly, a large contingent of them are burger liberal chauvanists who sirclejerk around "le bastion of liberty" shit, so to them, even if Hall was wholesome 100, the very fact that he can only be elected if US shits the bed is a step too far.
As for getting him, I am pretty sure its alright if you know what to do. The one hard step is getting the SAW to go your way. Basically your aim is to win SAW with full mandates during first to years of RFK, which implies: a) spending a long time holding out and trying to keep SA from loosing, but never turning the tide the first year or so, and then being able to execute a full victory fast enough before the midterms. The main goal here is to get the mandates to explode at just the time Bennet is starting his neoliberal shit. For short, here is what you do in a Hall run:
Don't do foci as Nixon to stack PP
Do all the PP costing SAW decisions that increase discontent with the war, preferably maxing it out with Carmack
Start pushing back the Shlid, aiming for late 71 early 72 victory
Only do the radical shit as RFK while pissing off unions
Don't repeal the CRA as Strom
Be corrupt and bungle the union busting as Goldwater
This is the standart path. I also heard you can somehow do it with MCS, but I would imagine that doesn't work well with the Mandate collapse strat.
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 16:40:54 No. 10662
Prime WC position depending on your ideas
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 17:21:57 No. 10663
How the fuck did AI manage to fuck up reconquista that bad?
Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 21:41:49 No. 10674
>>10672 >Not doing EPIC Upton Sinclair America
Cringe. You could have done literally the most wholesome while simultaniously based path in all of TNO mod scene but you chose against it. Sad!
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 12:21:23 No. 10690
I think Chase Smiths route for getting a funni ending has something to do with her mechanics.
She's basically the NPP's version of Bennet and needs to keep a bunch of factions happy and the party united (which much like Bennet is broken as fuck she's the only prez asides from Bennet who can achieve one-party state tier Midterm and presidential victories)
iirc her failstate happens if either the NPP-C or NPP-FR relations meter hits zero in which case Harrington / Wallace and Thurmond basically just take their ball and go home. and depending on which one she alienated she basically has to make Hall (if Harrington walked out) or Yockey (If Strom/Wallace walked) the face of their respective branch of the party to win back some support.
This then leads (yet again iirc) to Chase not running again in 72 and either Hall or Yockey is simply the default primary candidate in-place of the usual 72 prez for their branch of the party unreliant on NPP-Y/L popularity.
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 12:22:39 No. 10691
Upton Sinclair is the leader of Maoist liberated zone of California yes?
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 15:35:18 No. 10693
Ideas are Influence, Quantity, Diplomatic and Offensive, haven't completed most of them due to annexing vassals and coring land non-stop
I no-cbed Granada and Byzantium and force vassalized them during the first two years of the game
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 15:54:21 No. 10696
Daily reminder that Grand Strategy is the whitest, malest genre of games and that never before has a uyghur, spic, chink, sanduyghur, or fem*id pondered "should I use this money to build dreadnoughts to counter the UK or build railways to increase France's industrial power?"
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 17:49:41 No. 10703
He is one of the three options for California post-Federal Collapse. The others being a funni esoteric ghost buster and the liberal state council that kicks him and Sinclair out.
Anonymous 2021-07-06 (Tue) 23:08:44 No. 10708
Kys whitoid. Go to a cuck pit or somewhere and let people enjoy shit.
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 13:01:43 No. 10719
>>10710 >Unruhe <Dengist
What a retarded take. Replace him with Maupin with a Dugin alliance and you’re golden.
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 13:05:54 No. 10720
guy who made this probably thinks marxism leninism maoism, mao zedong thought, communism with chinese characteristics, and dengism are all the same thing
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 16:31:42 No. 10723
>>10720 >capitalism, capitalism, capitalism and capitalism aren't all the same thing
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 21:20:12 No. 10730
He’s got a point. Mao was a literal retard that tolerated both the reactionary petit bourgeoisie and the large national capitalist because of his national chauvinism.
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 21:21:26 No. 10731
He would fit right in with the other pseuds on /leftypol/ then.
Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 21:25:20 No. 10732
I too get all my information about China and Maoism from memes and shitposts.
Anonymous 2021-07-08 (Thu) 01:50:20 No. 10741
>>10732 >Memes are when Mao said it in stone in the manifesto
I swear most western mautists don’t even know what the fuck they’re following.
In the manifesto of the people’s liberation army:
>We are the army of the Chinese people and in all things we take the will of the Chinese people as our will. The policies of our army represent the urgent demands of the Chinese people and chief among them are the following: >(1) Unite workers, peasants, soldiers, intellectuals and businessmen, all oppressed classes, all people's organizations, democratic parties, minority nationalities, overseas Chinese and other patriots; form a national united front; overthrow the dictatorial Chiang Kai-shek government; and establish a democratic coalition government. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-4/mswv4_32.htm
Later elaborating have this:
>"Businessmen" means all the national bourgeois who are persecuted and fettered, that is, the middle and petty bourgeois. >"Other patriots" refers primarily to the enlightened gentry. <“enlightened kulaks” >The national bourgeoisie is a class which is politically very weak and vacillating. But the majority of its members may either join the people's democratic revolution or take a neutral stand, because they too are persecuted and fettered by imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat-capitalism.
I love how he openly opposes to “bureaucratic capitalism” and not capitalism itself. Dude was completely fine with kulaks. At least Bukharin only said that capitalist is only a means to an end that should be eliminated when the time comes. Even leftnats like Castro didn’t stoop this low.
How do you think that almost half the party were following Deng and Zhou while a quarter were fascists that followed the Gang of Four when the cultural revolution came around?
Anonymous 2021-07-08 (Thu) 12:13:20 No. 10747
>>10741 >At least Bukharin only said that capitalist is only a means to an end that should be eliminated when the time comes. Even leftnats like Castro didn’t stoop this low.
But Mao literally did get rid of them during the cultural revolution though?
What needs to be remembered is the sheer SCALE of China and the fact that large parts of the mainland were still outside of the CPC's control until the early 60s.
Xinjiang and Tibet had multiple uprisings and small guerrilla groups pledging allegiance to the ROC were continuing to attack in Yunnan supported by the west and burma.
The Cultural revolution basically solved this question by ending the question of dual authority in China. The last of the rural landowners, ex-KMT General-Governors who had kept their position by switching sides to the red army and other systems from before the establishment of the PRC were abolished and the entire country was bought under one standardised meritocratic and top-down method of governance.
Anonymous 2021-07-08 (Thu) 19:17:10 No. 10750
The cultural revolution was called off before any real and permanent revolutionary changes could be made. The bourgeois nationalist elements at the top of the CPC protected their friends and their influence and the reactionary red guard factions successfully fought off the rebel guard factions and then the whole thing was shuttered when the actual consequences of a real cultural revolution being unleashed made the CPC bourgeois democratic revolutionaries too nervous. The gang of four were locked up and the workers told to go back to their factories and stop agitating. Mao cucked out to his fellow petit bourgeois nationalist friends and set the stage for Deng to carry out China's very own thermidorian reaction, the consequences of which we're living with today.
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 03:33:09 No. 10772
>>10763 >no path for keeping bannon and firing miller
Leninist trump would be fun
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 13:15:26 No. 10784
Still looks like an apartheid state to me bro
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 13:21:56 No. 10785
There is probably gonna be a path to stop it I'd guess… but maybe not
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 15:11:11 No. 10788
>>10783 >Einstein is an agent of red Germany
Probably it was Goebbels who sent him there in the first place so it’s of course a left Zionist state.
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 15:32:38 No. 10789 >>10783
"Stop Syrian Agression"
Anonymous 2021-07-09 (Fri) 21:44:20 No. 10797
Birch path in a nutshell:
>Elected as Harington >Oh no! Hardliners spooky, they will couo us! >Just trust me, they will! >I know, we will coup them! Haha, this can't fail >Make dirty dealings and preperations for backroom backstabbings to oust this evil Leninist from the party >Try to fry his ass with a sugary speech >Party rightfully gets pissed at you for doing a plain-to-see couo and ousts you instead >Birch and Hardliners take over because Haringtons schizoid paranoia killed support for his entire wing >This is supposedly the bad ending I do wonder how much of this is the case because the devs were libs and thought people would instantly be hostile to Birch for being a hardliner, and how much of it is just underdeveloped. Because damn, Birch doesn't even get a real introduction, just different liberals im the SLP starting shit behind his back "cuz he be Leninist". Hope they rework it. Maybe add a Birch couo path that happens concurently with Harington so it wouldn't just look like the former is just a paranoid idiot, and would actually give character to Birch. And also would be cool if they added a "no split" path as well, where Harington isn't a birch, doesn't go after Birch and just doesn't rock the boat and tries to accomodate both sides.
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 07:26:48 No. 10808
You mean Wilson right? Harrington is the NPP-C demsoc
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 08:01:24 No. 10809
Yes, for some reason I confused Harold and Harington.
Anonymous 2021-07-10 (Sat) 21:01:14 No. 10841
apparently there's an ideology rework coming for red flood. i wonder how much more retarded turd positionist takes on ideologies are going to be inserted
Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 01:54:22 No. 10847
Yep. Apparently they’re adding Stirner gang to the anarchist tree. Also spartakism will replace council communism.
Based on the build up in the new update next content will be Indochina, Egypt, Arabia, Anatolia and Caucasus.
Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 08:41:47 No. 10852
Mayakovsky’s Kavkas society is by default literally the “best path” in the game since his flavour event and News event literally describes ‘greater utopia’ as borderline actual heaven on earth / post scarcity F.A.L.C
Anonymous 2021-07-11 (Sun) 16:45:07 No. 10854
Post-scarcity FALC in wartorn post-warlord Russia?
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 03:05:51 No. 10855
why are HOI4 modders so obsessed with making mosely left-wing
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 04:41:01 No. 10857
I was planning to use a left-wing Mosley in my DH mod. It's too overdone isn't it? I was gonna use a left-wing Mussolini too.
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 04:47:26 No. 10858
what other mod besides kaiserreich makes him a leftist?
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 07:51:02 No. 10859
tale of two brothers, to name one
do not let me discourage you anon, do it
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 08:10:51 No. 10860
the mosley memorandum was pretty based and labour were demonstrably wrong to reject it. in that sense, it's sort of tragic he went down the road he did after it was rejected and he was demoted. so i'm assuming it's largely down to the appeal of the future that never was.
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 09:33:00 No. 10861
Thanks m8, hopefully I'll get around to making it someday
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 11:15:58 No. 10864
But Russia in Red-Flood isn't 'Warlord' tier just very poor.
And the Kavkaz society regardless of leader literally gets like 8 research slots implying that their insanely technological advanced tiers of development.
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 13:39:22 No. 10870
>>10867 >Anti-revisionist pact
Depends on who is the leader, but still kibda cringe
Reminder to all antirevisionistkiddies that it was either Khruschev and destalinization, or Beria with Stalin's legacy preserved, but USSR also being cucked out to US for Marshall plan gibs and dissolved into EU-type federation, while DDR would be fully thrown out to the wolves.
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 13:49:50 No. 10871
The only 'Stalin's legacy' Beria would've preserved is betraying the revolution and cucking out the communist movement to the whims of western capital at every turn.
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 17:32:44 No. 10873
what about Molotov
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 17:52:58 No. 10874
did they get rid of the cringe "stalin genocided jews and was thought of as an omnipotent god" stuff?
Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 01:27:02 No. 10875
Sounds extraordinarily opposite to the real Beria to me. He was a huge reformist at points even worse than Khrushchev.
>>10867 >Peking pact
Wonder how anyone could fixed the total fucked policies Mao did to the rest of Asia. Probably not betraying indochina for a shitty buffer zone and purging Zhou Enlai early.
Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 15:45:52 No. 10890
If I vassalize León will they colonize for me? I'm playing as the Mamluks and no-cbed Granada and turned them into a March. but I'm debating wheter should I annex them and release León or not
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 20:33:19 No. 10934
curious about this too, comrades please resbond
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 22:19:16 No. 10935
As far as I'm aware, that's still in there
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 22:44:47 No. 10937
Anonymous 2021-07-14 (Wed) 22:49:31 No. 10938
>>10874 >>10934 >>10935 >>10937
if i recall correctly, some dev said they knew it was cringe and would be changed in the soviet rework
Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 13:39:24 No. 10944
>Playing red flood. Ok wait so what functionally is the difference between Artuad and the Fiume leaders 'Accelerationism' and irl Fascism? In two of Artuads three routes (The one where Artuad Stands alone, And the one where he allies with Saint-Loup) He more or less embodies the usual characteristics of French Fascism / National-Syndicalism (Though in Saint-Loups path he adds being a Teddite on top of that) And as for Italy Keller and Shimoi are blatantly just different flavours of actually existing Italian fascism (Marinetti also sorta counts but he's right up there with Escadron-Artuad as not just a fascist but straight up 'supervillain' tier) But what makes this more confusing is that Italo Balbo and the Blackshirts became leader of Italy in my game which means the Blackshirts and assumedly the PNF still literally exist in this timeline. eureka Eureka
Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 23:38:06 No. 10952
It’s fascism in everything but name. But tell that to the devs and that will trigger them immensely. I suspect most of them are just ashamed fascists that are too cowardly to come out of the closet and proxy it with his hodgepodge of ideology.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 02:32:09 No. 10953
100% agree with this, I feel like they have spent so much time with these 'meme ideologies' that they themselves have started to actually consider them seriously and now resent the community for pointing out that Red Flood is a fucking meme.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 02:46:57 No. 10954
Anyone here mod Paradox games? How the fuck do I make flags? Or just graphics in general? I'm not a graphic designer.
Syndie-kun 2021-07-16 (Fri) 04:17:04 No. 10955
IDK how to import them into the game, but if you need a graphics editor then Paint.net or Krita are both great choices and there are lots of tutorials available for them.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 04:22:56 No. 10956
I mean I can probably import them fine, certainly flags should be no problem, my problem is actually creating the flags themselves, ones that aren't already existing flags at least. I have paint.net and GIMP but I may need to try out Krita as well.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 09:02:06 No. 10960
It probably started out as “ironic” memes but as time goes on it attracted actual schizos who took it seriously like Athelas.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 10:30:37 No. 10962
This ARP is silly lol. It would actually make sense as a Balkan-Soviet split following a Greek civil war where the KPD don't cuck out to Moscow.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 11:09:39 No. 10969
>>10960 >attracted actual schizos who took it seriously like Athelas.
Anonymous 2021-07-16 (Fri) 22:08:27 No. 10987
usually the AI doesn't colonize if you vassalize them before they have colonies, but if they already do they will continue to as long as they have enough money to sustain it
Anonymous 2021-07-17 (Sat) 02:04:07 No. 10994
Anybody still play Darkest Hour?
Anonymous 2021-07-17 (Sat) 14:18:18 No. 11022
I do, but somewhat rarely.
soviet_union Soviet Union
Anonymous 2021-07-19 (Mon) 01:40:26 No. 11070
Well I'm considering porting the Armageddon scenario from HOI2 to DH as well as adding some additional content. I may post it here if I ever do.
Anonymous 2021-07-19 (Mon) 12:20:56 No. 11075
There better be a blanquist Joe Sestak carnaton revolution path
Anonymous 2021-07-19 (Mon) 23:07:41 No. 11086
>>11081 you should have changed your religion to tengri and culture converted to Ethiopian for maximum whitoid slaying power.
Anonymous 2021-07-19 (Mon) 23:10:41 No. 11087
>>11081 wtf someone actually finished a game
Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 02:04:35 No. 11095
>TNO, Wilson. >"Reg Birch, He's a Red-Fash tankie ok? were not going to explain why but he is!. SEE HE FAVOURS GIVING EVERYONE IN THE UK EQUAL RIGHTS IMMEDIATELY INSTEAD OF PRAGMATIC INCREMENTAL CHANGE! WHAT A TANKIE! >Entire section of Wilsons tree is him trying to manipulate the socialist party into booting Reg's entire wing out and allying with Social-Democrats to fill the void. >The final event in this chain is literally Wilson making a big secret speech about how much of a redfash tankie stalinboo nazbol birch is and how he needs to go to 'Save the party' <If you fail to win enough of the party to Wilsons side their like 'WTF IS THIS WRECKER DOING???' And boot him thus replacing him with Birch since he's the second most prominent person in the fucking party in this timeline. < Authoritarian Socialist Party becomes ruling party <NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VOOTING FOR ANYONE ELSE BUT SUCCDEMS IS AUTHORITARIANISM. The Nazi-Collaborator LibDem path is also funny. Its literally. >"We finally did it LibDem gang…We scrapped first past the post!" <"What did it cost" >"…Everything" zapatista Zapatista
Anonymous 2021-07-20 (Tue) 13:33:17 No. 11124
>>11095 >1st set of green/orange texts
>2nd set of green/orange texts
Anonymous 2021-07-22 (Thu) 00:42:29 No. 11153
What a lovely color
Anonymous 2021-07-23 (Fri) 20:02:55 No. 11186
Anybody have any tips on Communist China playthrough for hoi4?
Anonymous 2021-07-23 (Fri) 23:34:01 No. 11188
Played the shit out of that country trying to get the achievements. What tips do you need?
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 14:42:08 No. 11195
not that anon, but I could use a few pointers. What's the general strategy in the sino-japanese war? KMT china always fucking lets me down but eating up all supply so the japanese tanks just break through
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 18:14:52 No. 11197
Let the Japanese land a bunch of troops in naval invasions, encircle and exterminate them, rinse and repeat until they're all dead. Don't try to seriously push into Manchuria until their forces are super weakened, just hold your ground at the starting borders (and advance opportunistically tile by tile if you see a weak point).
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 18:22:55 No. 11199 >>11195
Ok, so here are some import points:
-Train your troops until they are level 3.
-Make 7/2's (they're not meta anymore blablablablablabla, i know but you're poor as fuck, so this will have to make do), and slowly update your previous trash infantry and cavalry divisions to them.
-Hire military advisors, specifically the army logistics expert. The difference when having him on is night and day, and makes pushing into Mengkukuo much, much easier. Other recommendable advisors include:
<Infantry expert. <Army Regrouping expert. <Entrenchment expert, if you plan on grinding them down for a bit (which is usually what i do until i can update my divisions to 7/2), though it isn't obligatory to hire him.
Chief of army is either the Army Morale expert or the Army Defense expert, i'll leave that up to you.
It is also recommendable that, if possible, you decrypt Japan's cipher, as well as launch the 100 regiments offensive. It's really helpful when pushing and seeing their shit fall apart.
When joining the war, you can take one of two approaches:
1. You join it after setting up your defenses in a fallback line on your border with Mengkukuo and gaining entrenchment bonus, this ensures the nationalists don't fucking die, as some enemy divisions will stay there and won't maraud the KMT as much as they normally do. Time will be mostly spent defending (doing some pushes here and there whenever the AI does its thing and forgets to man up/barely mans up some tile), but also focusing on upgrading your division templates and building stockpiles. When you feel the time is right (your divisions are strong enough/theirs are weak), you strike and seek to overrun Mengjiang. At this point, they will start to fall apart, and killing Manchukuo shouldn't be a problem (just watch for the AI trying to encircle you, as at this moment you'll probably be snaking quite a lot).
2. Do NOT join the war immediately, you want the nationalists to do a lot of the initial heavy lifting (but don't let them die either). Only do so when you're fully ready (i.e. done everything i said so far), at which point the Japanese should be starting to stretch their lines, and you can overrun Mengjiang swiftly depending on the circumstances (the 7/2's will trash what the fascists put there), and even cut their forces in half if you manage to get to Qingdao, though no guarantees.
If you push the Japanese army out of the continent, you should get an event where Japan offers you a white peace, and you prepare to turn on Chiang Kai-Shek. However, i never got it since the DLC is bugged as fuck, in which case, simply build subs (preferably by getting some other country's license production/lend-lease), naval bombers, raze the IJN to the bottom of the ocean, and invade Japan. Its army will be very pathetic given the multiple naval invasions you repelled during your preparation (tip: the AI loves trying to invade the Korean peninsula, so you can either repel it each time, or you let them get a bit of a foothold, and destroy whatever troops they mindlessly shuffle in it).
Also, try to encircle their troops whenever an opportunity appears. It takes a medium amount of time to see their army bleeding, but it is well worth the effort.
Make plans to create planing bonuses, these can be handy buffs in battles.
If the war with Japan takes too long (i'm talking 1946 level long), it is possible that the KMT will start doing the One China Policy focus, which will makes them immediately attack you, even if in the middle of the war. So keep an eye out for that.
The guide i used to properly learn how to play is the embed video.
Anonymous 2021-07-24 (Sat) 21:49:50 No. 11205
What are the current "meta" division templates? Is it still 40w infantry/arty space marines with a few SPGs and TDs? I recall those were the absolute kings during together for victory.
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 00:20:35 No. 11209
>>11186 >If you push the Japanese army out of the continent, you should get an event where Japan offers you a white peace, and you prepare to turn on Chiang Kai-Shek. However, i never got it since the DLC is bugged as fuck
Ah okay, that was a big problem for me. I manage to push the Japanese out of Korea and at first I thought, okay, that's it, but somehow they keep coming up with the manpower and shit to keep launching invasion after invasion. This happened to me right after I started a communist uprising and went to war with the KMT, only for Japan to drop an invasion in both South Korea and Northern China. Either one of which would have been manageable, if my imports from Uncle Joe didn't suddenly go through the floor.
>2. Do NOT join the war immediately, you want the nationalists to do a lot of the initial heavy lifting (but don't let them die either).
So I shouldn't follow the video's advice and go the Government of National Defense route or whatever?
Thank you. I actually saw that video before and it's what got me started playing China, but I had no way of knowing if the information in it was still accurate, or if there might be better ways to go about it, though borrowing his strategies have gotten me through pretty well so far.
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 04:56:13 No. 11214
>>11209 >So I shouldn't follow the video's advice and go the Government of National Defense route or whatever?
No, you absolutely should.
What you should not do is joining the war immediately
(if you take the second approach i laid out), let the nationalists do the initial fighting and build up your own strength. After you deem yourself ready, join the war with them.
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 13:17:58 No. 11226
now try it in vicky 2
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 14:13:06 No. 11228
Red-Flood x Jojo part 6.
Artaud = Pucci D, Annunzio = Dio. Shimoi, Keller, Marinetti = Sons of Dio. Lev Sedov = Jolyne. Trotsky = Jotaro Nitti, Kolchak, Churchill, Avatar, Sternburg = Jobros. l'etat irreal = Made in heaven. I will not explain further. zapatista Zapatista
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 19:08:33 No. 11232
What mods you guys generally use with hoi4 (total conversion/non-total conversion)? I have a few of my own, but the amount of "essential" mods can be very mind numbing. I want to use so many of them, but it's so overwhelming.
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 20:34:21 No. 11233
Ooh, I get you.
By the way, the game doesn't really seem to make clear, but is there any advantage to infiltrating multiple provinces, or is one as good as them all?
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 20:43:32 No. 11234
>>11225 >mamluks > arabia >difficult
Wake me up when you get the three mountains achievement
Anonymous 2021-07-25 (Sun) 21:04:09 No. 11239
No clue. Whenever i tried doing these infiltrations, i always failed, so i didn't use them a lot.
Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 01:54:32 No. 11256
I didn't know they were this bad
Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 02:00:02 No. 11257
This is my experience also, infiltration seemed pointless, though I guess it makes China waste their PP along with you (whatever that's worth)
Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 08:55:23 No. 11260
all it does is fuck up military factories, I wouldn't bother. just get the one sabotage you need to start a communist uprising and crush them with a conventional army
Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 10:37:14 No. 11262
This one kinda gets me because Oranje is unironically my favourite default Vic2 nation (by non-default I obviously mean my homebrew day-one save file where I tag-switched between all the big boy countries and dissolved them via releasing all their territory and devassalizing). Ornaje is basically the only country that both has access to natural resourcess, has a government that allows building factories and enough room to grow while not being OP, and having some more interesting challanges like taking down South Africa and Portugal. Also creating a Red-Africa superstate is pure kino towards the late game.
Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 17:28:13 No. 11266
Is Hoi4 still build-14-divisions-of-medium-tanks-and-steamroll-literally-any-nation simulator or has it gotten better?
Anonymous 2021-07-26 (Mon) 23:01:17 No. 11274
The next update will greatly revamp the way combat currently works by changing many minor, albeit important stats (best example being the over stacking division penalty getting wayyyy less severe).
But it'll be locked behind a DLC. so poorfags are fucked lol.
Anonymous 2021-07-27 (Tue) 08:18:22 No. 11289
just pirate everything bruh
Anonymous 2021-08-03 (Tue) 05:33:40 No. 11439
Apparently WerBell was a known associate of Lyndon LaRouche
LaRouche path for America confirmed? Is TNO based and Plato-pilled?
Anonymous 2021-08-03 (Tue) 16:21:38 No. 11442
>>11441 >not Vicky 2
into the trash it goes
Anonymous 2021-08-03 (Tue) 16:56:52 No. 11445
I want to beat to pulp the one who made this
Anonymous 2021-08-03 (Tue) 17:04:45 No. 11447
Alt-history mods are only gonna get dumber, huh?
Anonymous 2021-08-03 (Tue) 19:14:11 No. 11451
>>11449 >The USA was plunged into instability by Wilson’s failure and largely collapsed in 1928, while in France the military under Foch seized power. In Italy, Gabriele d’Annunzio overthrew the monarchy, with the royalists fleeing to Sardinia. The chaotic republic in Germany gave way to right-wing authoritarians and revolutionary socialists who carved out their own fiefdoms amidst the chaos, while the Prussian junkers established an aristocratic republic in what land they could hold on to. >With no side able to gain a clear upper hand in the Russian civil war, fighting died down and regional forces entered into a stalemate. The United Kingdom, having lost it's good relations with France and bankrupted by the collapse of America, fell into decline, with territorial losses in Ireland, India and South Africa over the 1920s.
More interesting than TNO tbh
Anonymous 2021-08-03 (Tue) 21:48:28 No. 11456
>>11449 >Goebbels a strasserite
That’s pretty dumb but seems like this one have so potential.
We have multiple German won ww2/ww1 mods now. It already got dumber.
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 01:52:34 No. 11458
>>11456 >That’s pretty dumb but seems like this one have so potential.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that Goebbels was part of the Strasserite wing of the Nazis, at least until Hitler came to power
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 14:53:54 No. 11470
If i'm a retard that plays HOI4 because i get to fight, conquer, destroy and do other simplistic things that entertain my monke brain, instead of actually building an managing an empire/civilization, could there be any other paradox (or any other grand strategy game for that matter) which i would enjoy? Even if i had to force myself to learn a bit before getting into?
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 17:21:22 No. 11473
>>11471 > STRENG GEHEIM covers at least 3 Stalin tree sized trees, all of which fall under the "Path of ML" choice
Uhhh, based? One is obviously Colonel Sanders, but I hope the other 2 have some spicy shit, and its not just one super-giant trot tree, or some meme Monbol Berezniki or Pagan Tukhachevsky paths along with the trot one.
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 17:27:12 No. 11474
CK2/3 is pure unhinged ID the game, but more from the Freudian sexual perspective, though I'd argue the combat is quite nice once it clicks, and its fun to do one-life swap to random ruler when you die games.
EU4 is the quintesential map painter sim, however I can't vouch for newer versions as I dropped it a few years back, and the new DLCs migh have fucked some shit up, as I recall the game at some point getting worse with each addition of new dumb mechanics. For one I highly recommend disabling Cossacks, since it fucks up the original games diplo system into a more annoying one.
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 17:31:25 No. 11475
wait for Victoria 3
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 18:31:50 No. 11476
I am curious though, is Goebbels in that mod like in Red Flood and the Kaiserredux submod Roter Morgen and just do "Nazi Germany but with a red coat of paint" or are they doing something different?
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 18:40:50 No. 11477
yes, in fact there he's even more of a nazi than his other versions. his party starts in a coalition with actual fascists including hitler and his final germany borders are just a copy of otl ww2 germany borders
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 20:04:10 No. 11478
Mhmm, and what about the "Red imperialism" and "Volkskommisariats" they part of Gobbels' path aswell?
>he's even more of a nazi than his other versions
I swear to god if the mod thinks that Nazi=left….
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 20:43:20 No. 11479
>>11476 >>11477 >>11478
I'd lowkie want to do a mod where Goebels does indeed lead the revolution in Germany but is actually an ultra based communist ideologue, basically like a German Lenin with the power of speech to raise millions of workers to action, and basically becomes the leading star of the world revolution.
Problem is everyone would look at that weird and ask "why the fuck are you making wholesome Goebels??!??, to which I say… yea, fair point
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 22:49:02 No. 11481
Well, there's an alternate history timline on ah.com where Hitler is a communist and Goebbels joins up with him lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 22:49:43 No. 11482
But yeah, I say, go for it anyway lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-04 (Wed) 23:14:10 No. 11483
Isn't this too historically inaccurate? Perhaps if the start date were 1933. But by 36 Stalin had already won, that's part of the tragedy of the purges and how unnecessary they were. It also starts to give some justification to stalin, as if his paranoid fears were real. This is like if they had a tree for germany where you can be the jews and make the german people slaves to global jewery
Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 05:11:33 No. 11487
>>11459 >Darkest hour makes you a racist
Welp I guess I’m one.
Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 08:42:29 No. 11491
Shhh don't tell that to anyone
Btw their German tree is still worse. They completely gloss over the fact that the holocaust happened
Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 17:40:49 No. 11495
Not to mention no KPD path for whatever reason
Anonymous 2021-08-05 (Thu) 20:47:03 No. 11497
>>11491 >Btw their German tree is still worse. They completely gloss over the fact that the holocaust happened
Coincidentally enough, they about it for a bit in the subreddit
Anonymous 2021-08-06 (Fri) 09:12:55 No. 11505
Didn’t they stole the propaganda mechanic from a mod? What’s worse is that they made it as if that’s something unique to the Soviets even though everyone was propagandizing.
Anonymous 2021-08-06 (Fri) 16:12:12 No. 11510
>>11505 >Didn’t they stole the propaganda mechanic from a mod?
I mean, i guess, but people will say that whenever Pdx introduces any new mechanic based in ww2 that happened to also be in a mod.
>What’s worse is that they made it as if that’s something unique to the Soviets even though everyone was propagandizing.
I don't think anyone considered this idea. Hell, i even saw people saying it was incredibly rad and that they wished for other countries to have it as well.
Anonymous 2021-08-07 (Sat) 01:01:52 No. 11516
>>11513 >Yeah, I honestly don't care if they steal from mods, because mods are infinitely better than vanilla
I mean, i like them officially incorporating it to vanilla, as it makes my modlist just a little bit less haphazard.
>I mean if you want to portray 'the human side of the purges' in your Eastern Front DLC, okay, fine, but how about a bit of a fucking mention of Generalplan Ost then?
Agreed. Playing endsieg and seeing the events talking in a moderate amount of detail about the historical occurrences was a really nice experience.
>HOI is becoming the most deranged Nazi propaganda game since Company of Heroes 2.
How bad is it? I got CoH for free once and barely played (mostly because hoi consumed my soul). Hope it is as good as Men of War looks.
Anonymous 2021-08-07 (Sat) 01:05:53 No. 11517
>>11516 >How bad is it?
Ever watch enemies at the gate? It’s basically that with the asiatic horde and all. The gameplay was dumbed down to serve the anti-communist propaganda.
Anonymous 2021-08-07 (Sat) 01:37:53 No. 11518
EU4 is g*rmoid supremacist propaganda, the only reason Europe is a pain to conquer is because the 283828288282 germ cities can amass 100K troops against you each
Anonymous 2021-08-07 (Sat) 01:42:56 No. 11519
The real problem is the agressive expansion for attacking the hre from outside the hre.
If you're playing in europe, and you want to conqueror Germany, you should look to become emperor, or friends with the emperor. Then it's free real estate.
Anonymous 2021-08-07 (Sat) 02:01:16 No. 11520
>>11517 >enemies at the gate
That's all i need to know.
Hope i can at least have a good laugh from it.
Anonymous 2021-08-07 (Sat) 12:00:04 No. 11530
Hopefully Relic go bankrupt after AoE4. It looks like dogshit. And what they did with DoW is just sad.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 03:24:59 No. 11549
>>11456 >We have multiple German won ww2/ww1 mods now. It already got dumber.
we need more mods set in the modern day and cold war era. I want to see a mod where the USSR won the cold war and is in a collision coarse towards WW3 with China while America is in a civil war and can unify and support either side.
>Play Red World
Red World has no content for China
>>11483 >This is like if they had a tree for germany where you can be the jews and make the german people slaves to global jewery LMFAO
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 03:51:36 No. 11551
Red World had potential but too bad the original creator was a monarchist. In that mod the USSR only won through sheer luck.
A better one would be that China went for cooperation with the US just in time for them to collapse due to civil rights falling through, the panthers got their shit together and the 70s oil crisis never ended. At the mean time another Israeli - Arab war began which crumbled both Saudi Arabia and Israel. Europe went independent but highly fascist.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 04:40:03 No. 11552
IMO a good TL for a Soviet Cold War win would be where Molotov becomes General Secretary instead of Khrushchev, he boosts the Soviet Economy but makes the USSR more nationalist and this alienates other socialist countries form the USSR. The US never gets involved in Vietnam but during the Oil Crisis tries to invade Saudi Arabia (this was planed IOTL) and wins but if forced to pull out due to pan arab guerillas. Then the US implements neoliberlaism to deal with stagflation but this causes a second great depression. The US collapses into warlord states. In the 90s happens the UAR unifies the Arab people and China and the USSR fight over influence of communist countries. In the 2000s Islamists blow up the Kremlin causing the USSR to go on a "red neocon" regime change spree that topples the remaining capitalist nations in Europe and Asia (Switzerland, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, Iran, Thailand) The USSR alleged that these countries provided financing to Islamists but these claims were found to be false. The USSR is driven out of these countries by guerilla movements, that then turn on each other after the Soviets leave. Different factions in America are still duking it out with China and the USSR supporting different factions. Europe while becoming socialist in the late 80s had high economic growth until the 2010s where aging demographics cause an economic stagnation and cause their to be austerity and immigration and all the controversy that comes from that. European countries are also in a big debate about weather to allow liberal political reforms such as multi party elections as well. The world is by in large socialist who a few capitalist holdouts in areas of America and Africa. The PRC and USSR are at the brink of war after a socialist but pro-Independence and pro-Soviet party is elected in Taiwan in 2019.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 05:01:15 No. 11553
TTL isn't hyper-realistic but good for a hoi4 mod because nothing is to implausible and the geopoltical situation is dynamic in a way that would make a hoi4 game fun.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 08:01:16 No. 11562
Oh fuck I forgot they were doing AoE4. I wonder how bad they'll manage to fuck it up.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 09:01:37 No. 11563
Honestly Victoria 3 would work better as a base for a modern day mod, might as well wait for that to come out.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 11:58:54 No. 11564
The plot to overthrow the Soviet government was real, and without the purges you would have a 1000 Vlasovs running around
In contrast the muh jewish plot was a lie, and Hitler knew it. Nazism was a plot of personal enrichment for the party and german industrialists, nothing more.
Anonymous 2021-08-08 (Sun) 23:54:14 No. 11571
Perhaps. I'm curious to see if the game will get my interest.
Anonymous 2021-08-09 (Mon) 00:40:50 No. 11573
Who would be in charge after Molotov eventually dies? Another possibly big difference could be that both India and Indonesia turned communist in the 70s but are staunch anti China and USSR creating a multipolar post capitalist world with 4 aggressive pillars.
Anonymous 2021-08-09 (Mon) 05:14:08 No. 11578
So far the art direction is the same flashy cheap Moba cartoon they did with DoW3. The gameplay is painfully average, nothing AoE2 can’t beat. RTS as a whole is a dead genre now.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 11:40:41 No. 11662
2WRW Dev here, thanks for kind words, there much more content to come!
P.S: Special thanks from me, as i'm Suslov Dev, and it puts smile on my face knowing that somebody actually plays him.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 12:43:15 No. 11663
Resident Suslov stan here, is he already out for 2WRW? I assumed it was only Novosibirsk(?) that had full content and everyone else just had a skeleton war with some flavor events for capitulating X city, and thus was too lazy to download the mod before you guys added the first socialist/communist unifier paths.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 13:12:53 No. 11664
Sadly no, as for now development is almost exclusively focused upon Novosibirsk (Shukshin Especially), Omsk, Serov, and Tukhachevsky's WRRF(But Zhukov and his successors also get content done). Progress is mostly halted by general wait for TT, and fears of how it will break mod, plus few unifiers are getting reworked there. I got into Team recently, but thankfully was able to snatch suslov as last available communist unifier(outside of sablin whose is purposefully left out until rework), and right now I slowly but steadily develop him.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 15:31:34 No. 11665
Cool. Any chance you could share some details of what you have cooked up for Suslov?
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 16:31:28 No. 11668
Is their any content for Zhdanov
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 17:24:25 No. 11669
>>11662 >2WRW Dev here,
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 17:38:43 No. 11670
Can't say much, but i do plan to add some choices in political, economical trees, concerning possible reforms, possible Politburo mechanic (Trying to make it not a complicated GUI), to make Suslov's Union feel more alive. Also, Comrades by the names of Kitov and Glushkov, will have chance of appearing…
USF definitely has some progress done, but the dev before i joined wanted to make Ultravisionaries to become Posadist meme stash (with focuses for studying Dolphins and nuking the world) but after some stir in community, the dev got removed together with their ideas, and now different person is in charge, he works in the dark, but USF tree is less chaotic and meme they say
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 17:49:41 No. 11671
>>11670 >Also, Comrades by the names of Kitov and Glushkov, will have chance of appearing…
Based. Looks like he's going to be the most based communist unifier then.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 17:58:13 No. 11673
I was wondering if you guys could add a decision to invade the slave revolt if it going on during the SWRW. I had to use allow.diplo to go through them.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 18:14:20 No. 11674
>>11670 >USF definitely has some progress done, but the dev before i joined wanted to make Ultravisionaries to become Posadist meme stash (with focuses for studying Dolphins and nuking the world) but after some stir in community, the dev got removed together with their ideas, and now different person is in charge, he works in the dark, but USF tree is less chaotic and meme they say
Yeah, doing that would be way too memey tbh, even with one of WerBells' paths being able to build shit from MGS lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 18:22:06 No. 11675
Not him, but I think if Slave Revolt happens it should start a special focus tree which would either completely derail the GO4 gambit and realign Brandt with Russia or have it be a pragmatic use of the situation with Russia taking out Schorner and then the Slave revolt.
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 18:37:22 No. 11676
Right now the lead dev's plan is to move swrw more in future to 75, and by then revolt would be over, but team has discussed hotfix, with would make sr join certain Russia Factions, while others just declare war on them, until big content arrives.
Well, some also had ideas of adding Evangelion, but the voting failed
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 21:02:21 No. 11681
Since you are Suslov lead, may I suggest making
(9:40 to 10:20) as the WRW2 victory superevent theme? It fits kinda perfectly following up the Reunification theme which is from the very start of the Cantata
and would then lay the logical conclussion for 45:40 to 46:35 to be the theme for the "USSR wins the Cold War" event if that was ever implemented in TNO2
Anonymous 2021-08-10 (Tue) 21:58:36 No. 11683
This is actually ultra based and badass! Whatever Sfx team had for Mikhail Andreyevich, i'm changing it for this, although the 9:40 would also sound great for Start of War Event for it is very tense and battle like, while 45:40 could also be victory event.
In anyway thanks, Cantata kinda slipped off my mind, it's definitely a good source for Suslov
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 19:52:25 No. 11704
Kinda disappointed there wasn't some military commander like Zhukov as a fourth leader option
Hopefully someone makes a mod for it, that'd be based
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 20:06:17 No. 11705
Finally I can play as Bukharin
But even better, we can have the collective and organic Party rule !
Anonymous 2021-08-11 (Wed) 22:41:33 No. 11708
I like how can possibly do the focus 'The Comintern' and immediately form the fourth international lol
Anonymous 2021-08-12 (Thu) 17:18:31 No. 11737
What even is the endgame of Borman in TNO?
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 04:41:40 No. 11748
Does anyone know is any arab countries will be getting content for TNO?
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 05:42:33 No. 11749
They are developing in paralel 4 updates now. One for general improvements, one for Eastern Europe, one for NA and Co-Prosperity Sphere and one for Southern Europe. Following that there will be another batch of 3 for Balkans, for Japan and the rest of CPS and finally for the entire Middle East.
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 08:56:37 No. 11750
Gerontocratic bureaucracy perpetuating itself. The endgame is the life-support of the stagnant system collapsing in on itself and everyone in the party grabs up as much cash and state property as they can as everything is privatised, the einheitspakt collapses and german life expectancy falls by 15 years.
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 13:55:33 No. 11752
I'm assuming that this whole process will take two years minimum
Anonymous 2021-08-13 (Fri) 16:41:37 No. 11755
In TNO what ideology would Al Quieda be?
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 00:15:45 No. 11778
Anonymous 2021-08-15 (Sun) 00:26:45 No. 11779
Victoria 3 is
going to suck
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 06:47:38 No. 11805
(actually this is just a submod, for now at least)
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 07:05:18 No. 11807
>>11805 >for now at least
do they hope to be integrated like the latAm submod?
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 07:15:29 No. 11808
Knowing that there is at least one /ourguy/ on the team I certainly hope that is the case
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 08:55:52 No. 11809
Not only does this makes no sense, it’s just pure pandering for the Red World crowd. Putin was a nobody that got lucky due to Yelsin’s abject incompetence, having him in the setting like this implies that he was born and raised the same way even though by all means his parents would be dead.
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 14:53:59 No. 11812
tbh, I agree, although Werbell dev designed putin to be a young puppet for country emerging oligarchs and military, while myself more for, if putin to exist, is to him be either a background character (with prospects of coming to power far beyond the scope of submod) or be possible Yeltsin's Russia candidate under patronage Liberal capitalists being his overseers i.e. puppeteers.
P.S: It ain't much i know, but Suslov will be Putin-free, and "Any other mainstream russian politician"-free (at least they won't be anywhere of importance)
Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 17:30:34 No. 11813
Personally I'd like Putin to be in the same way Zemin or Kosygin are in, where they are basically famous historical people but different due to the way things changed. However I dislike this WerBel thing, as Putin here is described in basically the meme way in which teenage westerners imagine him, instead of the doughfaced empty sock which just has a knack for noticing power shifts in government to make use of them. Actually, that would be a funny way to implement him into the mod - literally have him as a possible "failstate" ending for at least one unifier of all ideologies, with the justification being that in all unification endings he is a new recruit to the force which won the unification. So, say: corrupt bureaucrat puppet for failed communist leader, oligarch puppet for a failed democratic or fascist, corrupt union puppet for libsoc or public sector corrupt official puppet for socdem Russia.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 03:25:55 No. 11814
Why can’t they just made up people with creative backgrounds? The lebensraum in TNO would have deleted an entire generation of people including politicians. Only Godspeed do this weirdly enough with their entirely made up people of relevance.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 05:58:01 No. 11815
Generally speaking, people don't find made up people to be as interesting, though I agree shoehorning real people into vastly ahistorical roles gets awkward a lot of the time.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 09:04:12 No. 11816
It goes beyond that. Since the POD is Bukharin coming to power instead of Stalin, a different set of people would be born starting in 1920s.
Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 16:35:18 No. 11817
Yeah but you have to just handwave that because otherwise there would be hardly any people anyone would actually recognise. As a rule, alt-history assumes that history is 'self-correcting' in terms of famous people being born - circumstances bend around those people to allow them to still exist.
Anonymous 2021-08-18 (Wed) 05:08:22 No. 11821
It’s a creative disease stemming back from the alternate history itself and the likes of Harry Turtledove. Even hugely creative books like Year of Salt and Rice have many pastiches of famous historical figures.
True. The Bukharinist faction was hugely unpopular irl, his rule would have seen an even more extensive purge that basically deleted whole ranks of people.
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 16:37:27 No. 11863
So, speaking of stupid alternate history, what are you guys' opinions on the new Soviet non-aligned and fascist trees? Seems like a lot of people are pretty mad.
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 16:49:22 No. 11864
what are they mad about?
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 19:47:01 No. 11866
Oh yeah, and there's only one monarch possibility, whereas Poland has four (????).
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 21:49:05 No. 11870
yet more unfinished content for this overpriced game i see
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 22:30:04 No. 11871
this looks like a parody of a mod's alt-his path
by 1936 they haven't existed for two decades
Anonymous 2021-08-21 (Sat) 22:50:25 No. 11872
Lmao this looks more retarded than some of the worst mods like Time Machine. What a joke.
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 05:52:30 No. 11877
It has Russia being an American puppet as a good end. Definitely made by a liberal who has never saw how Yelsin ransacked the country in the 90s at their behest.
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 06:51:18 No. 11878
That chart is kinda old. I am under the impression the mod team either went through a silent deliberalization. With old libtard leads and devs like Pink "yo lets have everyone turn ebil because nazism corrupts lmao deep message here" Panzer or Pacifica resigning, I feel the mod has become way more left wing, hell, Italy having what, 11? different commie paths or just the simple change that removes lib/auth soc really signals something. The only thing now that I hope is that they make the effort posting redditor who shits on C-NPP submod for changed 68/72 elections cannon to purge the remnants of the DSA liberal taint.
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 08:34:45 No. 11879
Russia isn't really a 'puppet' in any of the endings where Liberals take over though?
It's more just like what a NATO member in the 90s or the five eyes are (i.e a member of the imperial core)
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 08:39:52 No. 11880
Why is it bad storywise for the C-NPP to be a bunch of succdems?
None of the possible Republican, Democrat, C-NPP or FR-NPP candidates are meant to represent a fall of US capitalism or society. Hall only takes over if the social/economic situation in burgerstan gets so fucked that people are 'desperate' enough to voot for him and a crisis has emerged.
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 09:17:39 No. 11881
The main problem of C-NPP is that they are portrayed basically as DSA types from 2020 election context, ignoring that the progressives of TNO 60's would be less student nerds and more old labour types. Also Harrington is really silly since 1) public is shown to react to him as some sort of commie demon when he does shit just as if not less radical than TNO LBJ, and 2) he literally is just a nerd who wrote a book about poverty.
Anonymous 2021-08-22 (Sun) 21:50:44 No. 11888
people always assume ideologies to be static when this is not true, ideologies themselves change. A socdem from 1960 and 2020 aren't the same, niether is a liberal or socialist of fascist from 1960 or 1900 vs 2020 the same
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 03:53:58 No. 11912
same thing both sides = good mature and gripping narrative
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 05:40:24 No. 11913
I think this can be chalked up to Ebolaman being a based-retard French nationalist. Wasn't there a controvesy where he denied that Jacobins did a single thing wrong during the great terror?
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 07:06:40 No. 11914
>>11911 >De Gaulle dindo nuffin >Actually socialism is red imperialism
Fucking faggots. De Gaulle himself introduced a apartheid regime to free France irl what the actual fuck?
>>11878 >they are getting better
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 15:13:30 No. 11916
Wanna doxx yourself?
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 16:06:33 No. 11917
I don't think you even need a punchline
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 19:59:27 No. 11918
>>11915 >Can't think of a punchline though
POV: You're making Free France in TNO look like good guys and Anti-Imperialist socialists look like bad guys
Also, I recommend you put it on r/rDSRfunny as the main subreddit will remove it immediately lmao
Anonymous 2021-08-24 (Tue) 20:06:09 No. 11920
Reddit loves Bill Wurtz, right?
"You could make a religion out of this"
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 11:28:13 No. 11940
>>11911 >Wanting africa to be free = Imperialism
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 11:39:46 No. 11941
>Shower thought. Rodzaevsky start his / Amur's game as being an explosively violent, paranoid, drunk who runs his 'state' little better then a roving raider gang from fallout. Matkovsky starts his / Magadans game as a cold, calculating pragmatic despot. By the end of each of their potential unifications the roles flip. Rodzaevsky sobers up and becomes extremely calculative and the state he creates is extremely efficient in its cruelty Matkovsky after he gets to the regional stage becomes more and more despotic and violent to maintain his grip on power and in his final event implies he's started drinking. Potentially a lot by the fact the event is about him getting out of bed and his first thought being 'I need a drink'
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 11:49:20 No. 11942
>>11929 >cybernetics for suslov
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 15:49:13 No. 11945
Looks based, good work anon! Though I would recommand to not post tangable leaks that are more than "my father at nintendo" here, just in case the lead devs decide to purge extremists or something
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 17:21:07 No. 11947
Don't worry about this, you just need to be essential, another dev from russia posted hammer and sickle t shirt in chat with other memorabilia, captioned "Look what i got from CPRF chapter meeting" and was very vocal about being party member, and the response was basically "communism bad, but you make good gfx".
Anonymous 2021-08-26 (Thu) 18:27:07 No. 11948
Damn, he sounds based
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 14:25:10 No. 12018
Suslov is Suslov but what about Kaganovich?
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 14:57:57 No. 12021
Anyone else think the new TNO update looks lame? It's all hype on Reddit but it's just over-complicated UIs layered on top of each other.
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 15:05:15 No. 12022
Sorta agree. Its called Tool Box Theory for a reason, its just a bunch of asorted parts that will eventually help future systems be better integrated while fixing current issues. I view it as a big block inside of the pipe and just want it to come out fast so we could get the future updates (especially Europas Narben and Penelope's Web) faster.
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 15:10:33 No. 12023
i want them to add focus trees for the 'fail states' like schorner, the AI always seem to descend into anarchy and it makes the rest of the game boring
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 15:35:46 No. 12026
Go back to sleep then, petulant child
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 16:00:43 No. 12027
Kek, who made this lmao
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 21:46:23 No. 12031
Ebin. However a leftcom state play would be pretty damn interesting.
Anonymous 2021-09-02 (Thu) 08:38:26 No. 12033
What is that music?
Anonymous 2021-09-05 (Sun) 14:58:40 No. 12076
Saturation bombardment of the home islands
Let them never rise from the ashes of their homeland again
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 10:15:04 No. 12097
Really funny now to go back to the early days of TNO still being in development and listening to old devs talk about how funi paths are super hard and would never happen to AI, specifically underlining the Black League as one of those. However now basically every game I see either BL winning in the West, or at least AB wining regional stage. I really believe Russia needs a serious rework. Not for lore or whatever, but for unification, as it is rather shit nowadaysand feels exactly the same to play as any unifier past first 2 years. Also Central Siberia is hell on earth to play.
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 12:37:53 No. 12099
>>12097 >or at least AB wining regional stage.
I never seen them winning myself tbh, was always either WRRF or Samara, did see Komi (Forget which ideology though) win once or twice though
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 18:03:32 No. 12110
I’ve noticed nearly every game Western Siberia ends up unifying Russia and that almost ends up being Omsk
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 19:29:31 No. 12113
TNO Second West Russian War submod
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 19:32:45 No. 12114
Noice, yeah, that mod seems very based
Anonymous 2021-09-07 (Tue) 19:43:39 No. 12115
I hope their is a good focus tree for the arab states and good post-SWRW content
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 07:20:15 No. 12138
Tried out Kaiserreich again to see how's it doing now after playing TNO for a few months. Man, KR is so fucking bad it isn't even funny.
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 11:43:52 No. 12139
>>12138 >Man, KR is so fucking bad it isn't even funny.
Haven't played KR in ages, why's it that bad?
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 12:33:51 No. 12140
Is TNO any good? People meme it pretty hard
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 13:14:07 No. 12141
TNO is pretty fun. However, once you've finished all the main countries it can get stale.
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 13:18:21 No. 12142
I like Kaiserreich, sometimes it's fun to just conquer the world and there is enough flair to keep it entertaining compared to vanilla.
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 15:47:22 No. 12143
TNO is as good as the nation you pick to play. Most of the time its pretty great, but there are stinkers. Mainly I'd say Russia, since it is, gameplay wise, 20ish identic nations that have 2 year of great-to-meh flavour, followed by 10 years of fast-forward interrupted only by needing to pick new focus, which becomes way less flavourful past regional. There are other weak links like Italy, Japan, England after first few years.
But then there are really amazing ones, like Brazil, USA, Germany, some shorter minors like Ireland, which are just so far above and beyond any other HoI4 mod.
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 18:37:21 No. 12144
It gets memed on because it's popular, but that doesn't mean it isn't good. Pick your favourite Russian warlord state to play at the very least.
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 20:28:34 No. 12147
Its not *bad*, it is just really shallow and bland after seeing TNO. There is very little showing of your countries domestic situation outside very specific country paths, almost every path is "Press the I WIN button for your preffered faction", there doesn't seem to be much actual impact of the narative to the gameplay and so on. Basically it just feels like a more competant Vanilla HoI4.
I need to try out EAW at some point. Apparently that was the uber-mod at least until TNO came out when it came to complexity, and also apparently TNO had to use some of their teams expertise. Hope that will be better than KR and maybe even rival TNO.
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 20:55:10 No. 12148
Fuck yeah! Finally someone else here can play EAW!
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 21:37:50 No. 12149
>>12147 >almost every path is "Press the I WIN button for your preffered faction"
Yeah that was always my issue with KR. Whatever ideology you pick everything just works out for the best so there's no real need to play as anyone besides the syndicalist powers.
It'd be nice if like, you can win the 2ACW but absolutely ratfuck your economy and end up ruled by libs again or something like that
Anonymous 2021-09-09 (Thu) 22:37:27 No. 12150
I mean you can end up ruled by totalists anyway
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 10:59:53 No. 12158
How the fuck do you beat the other unifiers at the regional and superregional stages?
They always literally have like 800:Soft-Atk 800:Hard-Atk and 500:Def. No matter WHO unifies and how long it took them to. Admittedly I'm not very good at understanding proper unit composition Whats the best Division-Template to make so that i can just roll all over them?
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 11:00:40 No. 12159
Talking TNO Russia obviously, realised i should have mentioned.
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 14:07:42 No. 12160 >>12158
You gotta build them tanks. Just copy picrel, make sure to research all MBT and IFV related techs and doctrines. Not only will you be anle to steamroll super-regionals, you'll steamroll Germany as well
tbh if you play as Western Russia killing off the other super-regional might be marginally tougher than Germany because of the shitty Siberian terrain
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 14:12:37 No. 12161
Do note that this division is really expensive to make. 10-12 should be the goal for Unification and should be supported by like 15+ factories for each tank type at least. Also don't slam them in a spread out fashion. Just use a bunch of infantry divisions (use the basic 7inf 2arty comp) to act as a wall on the front that doesn't attack, while you use tanks to chop your enemy to bits by making small-scale blitzes on a couple of provinces, hopefully encircling some enemies along the way.
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 14:15:20 No. 12162
Try the new millennium dawn, it takes real time to change your nation's politics but is also more open ended, with wars and alliances which is a lot of fun. Also you can do world wars in MD, but not in TNO. World Wars in MD are really fun, especially if you play as either China or USA.
use a 7 2 with elite infantry and artillery, research manpads and add anti air support companies, anti air is supper useful in TNO
IFVs are useless, just use MBTs and trucks with recon and attack helis
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 14:17:39 No. 12163
doesn't brazil have only just a few years of content?
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 14:23:28 No. 12165
Is their any mods for the cold war besides CWIC, specifically for anything in the 70s and 80s.
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 15:03:12 No. 12166
What units are those?
the symbols dont look like that in my game?
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 15:09:42 No. 12167
>>12162 >new millennium dawn
Did they recently updated it? Every time i heard somebody talking about the mod they would say it is shit
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 15:23:10 No. 12168
Brazil only has exactly three years if I am not mistaken, however they are so full with flavour, events and special mechanics that are actually really fun to use, that it feels like a fully fleshed out country, and definetly at least as good as the full 10 years of Iberia, at least in my opinion.
I use NATO symbols (enabled via gameplay options). As for units those are 5 Mechanized Infantry + 7 MBT + 8 IFV. Companies are Signal, Motorized Recon, Engineer, Maintenance and Attack Heli.
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 16:36:39 No. 12171
Nah. Its one of the three wishlist mods I have for HoI4 that I can't wait for but will likely never come out, the others being l'Ordre Nouveau (TNO, Kaiserreich edition) and Godspeed: A Flame for Winter (if reconquista failed and WW1 caused an ice age)
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 19:03:24 No. 12173
These are good picks, I'm looking forward to both of them. Although I think Godspeed has been in development since HOI4 came out lol
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 21:17:17 No. 12178
>>12177 >purging Beria gives Stalin three more years
Based and redpilled
Have they uncringed Stalin's tree yet or is he still a gorillionaire mindset antisemite?
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 21:37:05 No. 12179
Imo the most redpilled path here is the Khruschev outmaneuvering Brezhnev one.
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 21:38:40 No. 12180
iirc Khrushchev also used to have cybernetics on his tree, but this has been removed. This is incorrect as Krushy was interested in cybernetics but was being constantly sabotaged trying to implement it.
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 21:40:23 No. 12181
The beria purged path looks pretty amazing. Non revisionist agressive cybersoc Soviet Union, what's there to not like?
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 21:52:59 No. 12182
It's the based banned in multiplayer for being too epic path
Anonymous 2021-09-10 (Fri) 23:30:38 No. 12183
Wait wtf actually? I thought he was pro bureaucracy
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 02:42:57 No. 12184
The most important thing to realise for HOI is 'unit width'. Unit width determines how many units can participate in a battle at once. It is calculated in multiples of 20, so you always want your divisions to be some multiple that fits into that without going over it. In other words, have your divisions be 20 width as standard, a 'light' division could be 10 width, and a lategame division can go up to 40 width. A division which is, say, 12 or 16 width like many of the default division templates, is not going to be able to fully take part in the battle. In other words, if you have two divisions at 16 width, and the enemy has only one division at 20 width, you might still lose if only one of your divisions is able to take part in the battle (the total combat width depends on terrain, how many directions the attack is happening from, and so on, but it is always a multiple of 20).
So, to sum up, you always want to adjust your starting division templates to contain 20 width of units. The 'classic' optimal template is 7 infantry and 2 artillery. For poorer nations, this would be 10 infantry instead. With appropriate support companies of course.
Once you are producing trucks and tanks you can then replace these divisions (dont literally replace them, just build more unless you run out of manpower) with trucks and tanks instead. Also remember that tanks are not supposed to be used on their own, the British tried that in WW2 and got roflstomped in North Africa, tanks are the 'armoured spearhead' of a motorised infantry company.
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 03:08:35 No. 12185
Cornman was much more based than people later credited him for. He was more driven on strengthening the state industries through self management but still pro cybernetics. His stance against Stalin was that of political opportunism.
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 03:11:21 No. 12186
Yes, much to my frustration the documents I once had, that I could find easily again on the internet, are no longer there and I lost my copy. But Khrushchev did support a rollout of cybernetic planning that was sabotaged by institutional elements of the USSR. I can't even find them referenced on the wikipedia for his congress speeches now. He was also for term limits in the politburo that would prevent the gerontocracy.
I guess it's no longer true lol
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 12:26:22 No. 12189
>>12162 >Try the new millennium dawn, it takes real time to change your nation's politics but is also more open ended, with wars and alliances which is a lot of fun. Also you can do world wars in MD, but not in TNO. World Wars in MD are really fun, especially if you play as either China or USA.
Speaking of MD, what's the best template for that mod, I ask because IIRC, the devs for that have changed things quite a bit in terms of combat
What mod is that about, CWIC?
As far as I'm aware, that's still in there, not sure if they intend on uncringing it or not though
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 13:37:25 No. 12190 >>12169
I was thinking something more about the 1970s/1980s, the 1980 War of Persian Aggression and Arab Unity and the Tanker War. Their are no Hoi4 mods that cover the late cold war, which imo is more interesting and fascinating then the early cold war.
>>12189 >Speaking of MD, what's the best template for that mod, I ask because IIRC, the devs for that have changed things quite a bit in terms of combat
Mixes of MBTs and IFVs are really good for base units (if you have more then 40 mils and high military budget (which at the highest budget adds 200%+ to production) then it isn't hard to mass produce tanks and IFVs). Also build helicopters for maneuver units. Another thing about MD is in the latest patch once you go five years into the game their is massive resource scarcity so you have to plan around that.
>What mod is that about, CWIC?
Anonymous 2021-09-11 (Sat) 21:52:35 No. 12192
>>12190 >Mixes of MBTs and IFVs are really good for base units (if you have more then 40 mils and high military budget (which at the highest budget adds 200%+ to production) then it isn't hard to mass produce tanks and IFVs). Also build helicopters for maneuver units. Another thing about MD is in the latest patch once you go five years into the game their is massive resource scarcity so you have to plan around that.
Neat, cheers m8
Anonymous 2021-09-12 (Sun) 07:20:03 No. 12200
Jesus Christ I still can't help but seethe about Kovner being in TNO, especially after seeing the varied national liberation paths for other countries that are to be implemented in the coming updates. Fucking retard old guard TNO devs abd their shitty "le nadziez meik da world be ebul cuz dey corrupt da good geuyez" writting style, I guarantee they will never remove UPO retardation out of respect for the old devs. That path is so fucking stupid and insulting. Literally just "yo there was 1 wacky 100 partizan with a tiny marginal group back in OTL in between a giant mass of other anti-nazi partizans, let's make him into an edgy sonic OC undying killpeopleist and make him the only partizan resistance path". Landrut and Vituska are also fucking insulting, even more so due to existance of Kovner: "You want free Ostland that isn't shit, well then, here, pick from a retarded German porky failson libtard aryan savior and a sociopath Belarusian nationalist and Nazi collaborationist butcher". Fuck Panzer fuck panzer fuck panzer die in hell I hope they make you watch every single dsrfunny meme while you are there for torture you fanfic hack bad writer you
Anonymous 2021-09-12 (Sun) 09:12:50 No. 12202
noooo you can't like gus that's extremism!!
Anonymous 2021-09-12 (Sun) 11:54:25 No. 12204
holy shit i just reloaded my Aryan save and factored in this template and this is borderline fucking game-breaking with them.
Manuever warfare gives 10% division speed.
Vagners starting tree gives another 10% speed.
And his regional tree gives an additional 5% boost to speed.
On top of cloning, The aryans seem to have fucking teleportation technology.
Anonymous 2021-09-12 (Sun) 13:59:30 No. 12206
Their fun as a meme lol.
Honestly i find the regular 'Aryans' funnier then the 'Hyperboreans' since the 'Hyperboreans' are just…Normal…Russian Neo-Nazis…Basically…while the 'Aryans' are just totally delusional beyond belief.
I'll probably play as another Military Chadocracy like the WRRF, Sverdlovsk or Mongolia next though.
Anonymous 2021-09-12 (Sun) 16:03:36 No. 12211
>>12206 >Honestly i find the regular 'Aryans' funnier then the 'Hyperboreans' since the 'Hyperboreans' are just…Normal…Russian Neo-Nazis…Basically…while the 'Aryans' are just totally delusional beyond belief.
idk, hyperboria seems to be literal "Asiatic Barbarian horsemen trying to destroy western civilization." Their goal is to bring back Europe to 500 AD.
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 06:38:39 No. 12231
based and righteous anti panzer rant
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:07:11 No. 12235
The former creator and lead dev of TNO (now retired/ousted)
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:46:23 No. 12237
Its just every time someone talks of his writhings it sounds like he's a Horseshoebrain nazi simpatizer, like that shit with Gus Hall
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 16:56:29 No. 12238
Not horseshoe brain, just auteur syndrome of a talentless hack who wants to become the new JRR Martin (who he claimed to be his big literary inspiration) thinking it is deep and masterful storytelling when the good guys become evil when nazies win because nazism is so evil that like some Warhammer 40k chaos corruption it bends reality to make normal people insane. There are some other paths which were revealed to later have been saved by other mod team members, like Batov who was supposed to be Taboritsky 2.0 or USA which was supposed to become Nazi Germany 2.0 after the first decade. Southern Urals is basically what all of TNO would have been like (random historical figures going insane killpeopleist, quirky libtard wholeome 100 communes, evil starvation gommiez, fallout fanfic self-insert factiond) if he had his say on all things.
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 18:15:00 No. 12239
>>12238 >like Batov who was supposed to be Taboritsky 2.0 or USA which was supposed to become Nazi Germany 2.0
What the fuck lmao
Anonymous 2021-09-13 (Mon) 19:27:55 No. 12242
Its just that for me these amateurish shit kinda hurt the mod, TNO feels like a one of a kind mod focused on the history of the country you play and those that interact with it, like some anons said like a VN, but if these history is busted by shit writing it ruins it, but this mod, as well as the cold war one Kinda made me curious to create my own mod if i had a better computer.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 01:21:05 No. 12247
>>12246 >Speer's germany is a ticking time bomb, here's how >NO. JAPAN WILL NOT RULE THE WORLD
their is no way that these would happen in the TNO universe
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 01:42:52 No. 12248
Bruh, he looks like he's wearing the same coat as Tabby lmao
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 01:47:16 No. 12249
Look at the edge of his chin, they've just stuck his head on it lol
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 03:16:55 No. 12250
>>12238 >USA which was supposed to become Nazi Germany 2.0
So the USA would not change at all? I'm sorry I don't follow
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 06:31:25 No. 12251
Right-side of the pick is a meme. Found the entire image on dsrfunny, but I recall that originally the left side was an early fbi.gov leak, so someone just merged the leak with edited tabby pic
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 07:10:18 No. 12252
If I understand correctly it wasn't a left-wing critique style "America becones Nazi Germany" and more just a liberal paranoia of US becoming overly nationalist and expansionist, so less IRL empire of evil and more Fallout style "US invades Canada to protect its interests" meme.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 10:59:04 No. 12257
>>12247 >>Speer's germany is a ticking time bomb, here's how >>NO. JAPAN WILL NOT RULE THE WORLD >their is no way that these would happen in the TNO universe
IIRC dev leaks have said that if Speer wins the GCW + he dosen't get couped by the reformers or the hardliners + America and Japan both fuck up = Germany will basically closed as the 'winner' of the cold-war.
I think it's also the same for Japan if the AuthDem Admiral guy gets elected + he dosen't get couped by Kishi + Anyone but speer wins the GCW + America fucks up somehow.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 15:35:26 No. 12258
some friends got me into the game recently, after a short tuto campaign with them as germany, I did a playthrough with france, and loaded saves far in the past numerous times despite the easiest difficulty until giving up because US immediately declared on ussr after defeating nazis and I didn't feel like I did a good enough job to save them.
Then I started a soviet campaign which prompted a few questions. 1) is that me or germany is ez mode compared to france and ussr ? are the devs werhaboo ? (they seem heavily prejudiced against ussr/commies) 2) I've seen there are tons of mods, is there any recommended/mandatory ones ? 3) I find the artillery taking 3 width really weird, given it should work exactly opposite. I've seen people recommend to only use infantry+support arty for defense, and tanks for offense 4) do you guys actually use the battleplanner ? every time I tried it did stupid shit and lost me the front, so Im kinda feeling forced to micro everything, but maybe it was because I didnt have enough unit to defend it. 5) Should I train unit all the time, or in bulk when I get the equipment ? (I feel like I have never enough equipment for both reinforcement and training) 6) In war, should I rush cities/victory points or focus on encircling and destroying divisions ? 7) Is it worth to have a lot of support battalions ? I tend to put everything I think they might need (AA+arty+engi+field medic for defense,engi+arty+aa+signal+logistic for offense)
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 15:39:43 No. 12259
In terms of mods, TNO (The New Order) for a visual-novel-like experience (this is what most people talk about in here)
and Kaiserreich (less story, but better gameplay and mechanics than vanilla)
For strategy, I'm not sure. I just kinda wing it and things seem to work. Equipment production is important though, you get heavy penalties if you can't reinforce properly.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 17:22:19 No. 12260
Germany and Japan have to fight foreverwars in Russia and China, while America doesn't. Unless they genocide their populations this would cause America to win.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 18:07:54 No. 12261
Germany is basically the country for newbies. I wouldn't say the devs are werhaboo, though I think there are a few unironic Kaiserboos at Paradox
As others said, TNO and Kaiserreich are the big boys. There is Black Ice (I think its what its called?) which basically remakes vanilla HoI4 to be more accurate and in-depth WW2 game. There is also Equestria at War, which even though it sounds like a joke, is actually a really well made mod that balances story and gameplay and is probably better than Kaiserreich.
That is correct on infantry. They are wery squishy but can hold the line well enough. Don't attack with them or you will shred your manpower. Tanks are the main thing to use for offense, in which you mainly want to make small breaches in enemy lines and then try to encircle.
Battle planner is good once you know what to do and how to stop your army from doing dumb shit while using it. Its great for your infantry for the most part as you don't want to attack with them unless the enemy is already broken, so use the front line tool to keep them there. As for tanks, try to concentrate them at certain points and do small-scale spearhed/regular attack plans. Big ones tend to be messy. Also often I do end up microing the attacking units. Think of the battle plan as a way to reduce headaches with units that aren't doing fancy stuff.
Not sure what is meta, but I personally never train more if I can't sustain my fielded units.
Depends on who you are fighting. If its a big power like Germany for instance, then deffinetly focus the army. If its a smaller power like Romania or something, then you should be able to rush tanks to their victory points.
Yes, support divisions are good. Also I think you want to use maintenance as well.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 18:23:30 No. 12262
Millenium Dawn and Cold War Iron Curtain are also good mods if you just want to fight WW3.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 18:45:08 No. 12263 >>12258 >1) is that me or germany is ez mode compared to france and ussr ? are the devs werhaboo ? (they seem heavily prejudiced against ussr/commies)
This is done, as far as i'm aware, so that Germany can still fight other countries, as their irl counterpart lucked out against France, something that the game wouldn't necessarily be able to replicate.
As for the prejudice part, i guess you can find rather easily in the game, yes. But you can also just easily ignore it. Sometimes a part of the anticommunism i see is due to the game trying immerse the player. After all, the fact that Carlist Spain gets a Nat. Spirit called "Crusade against Democracy" doesn't necessarily mean they endorse it.
>2) I've seen there are tons of mods, is there any recommended/mandatory ones ?
There are in fact tons of mods to try, to the point i feel nauseated thinking about playing them.
As for recommend mods, in terms of small, quality of life additions, i'd recommend player led peace conference and state transfer tool. Whereas for total conversion ones, i haven't really tried too many – only endsieg and the great war redux. Though they were very fun to play, even if a bit unfinished.
>3) I find the artillery taking 3 width really weird, given it should work exactly opposite. I've seen people recommend to only use infantry+support arty for defense, and tanks for offense
The next update will rebalance combat pretty wildly, so i'll be curious to see what happens to the meta.
Ideally, you should have 20 width divisions (be it meats blocks of infantry, 7/2's, or even 10 width, depending on how dire the circumstances are) manning up the front lines, and 20/40 width tanks to breakthrough. However, many countries cannot afford this setup, so you'll find yourself using mostly infantry to do everything. In that case, same deal as before, but with 14/4's instead of tanks.
Good support companies you should strive to get: engineer, artillery, maintenance and AA.
>4) do you guys actually use the battleplanner ? every time I tried it did stupid shit and lost me the front, so Im kinda feeling forced to micro everything, but maybe it was because I didnt have enough unit to defend it.
When you have a plan laid out, it can give a planning bonus (depending on how much time has passed), which can be handy for improving your stats. It can also be useful for mopping remaining enemies (when you get tired of microing), giving you a better sense of your overall strategy (making plans one after the other, like the picrel i stole from reddit), and the piercing maneuver can be good for encirclements.
>5) Should I train unit all the time, or in bulk when I get the equipment ? (I feel like I have never enough equipment for both reinforcement and training)
Depends on your manpower/equipment situation and the country/faction you'll take on. Ideally, you should create enough divisions to properly fight the enemy, and everything else is left in reserve/for emergencies.
A good trick is to have some units always in training, but never deploying. That way, they can spawn out of thin to help in the more pitched battles.
>6) In war, should I rush cities/victory points or focus on encircling and destroying divisions ?
Again, it depends. Are you fighting Germany/China? Focus on destroying their divisions while capturing VP's, the former is vital to the latter.
VP snipping should be done when you need to be quick, so, France and early-USA are good candidates for that.
>7) Is it worth to have a lot of support battalions ? I tend to put everything I think they might need (AA+arty+engi+field medic for defense,engi+arty+aa+signal+logistic for offense)
See my answer above, but it sounds solid, overall. Would only tweak a few things.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 19:48:34 No. 12265
>>12263 >This is done, as far as i'm aware, so that Germany can still fight other countries, as their irl counterpart lucked out against France, something that the game wouldn't necessarily be able to replicate.
Keep in mind that Germany has to carry the Axis against three countries stronger then them so beefing them is necessary for balance.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 21:37:39 No. 12268
True, but you could argue a WW2 sim shouldn't exactly be 'balanced'. Germanboos should be teabagged and actually winning as Germany shouldn't be something you do in your first game when you barely understand how the mechanics work. The false balance does actually give asspats to Nazis.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 21:47:06 No. 12269
How does paradox have the guts to charge so much for an unfinished game? Vanilla hoi4 is total dogshit compared to top mods like kaiserreich, which are all free.
Anonymous 2021-09-14 (Tue) 21:52:33 No. 12270
its not fun to play USSR, UK, or USA is Germany isn't buffed
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 00:50:53 No. 12271 >>12270
Yeah I guess you have a point there. I still don't like it ideologically though.
TBF, HOI4 would still be relativeuly fun if the mod scene hadn't developed, it's just that the mods have so much passion put into them compared to the base game. Remember that Paradox has to pay people for the time they put into working on vanilla, whereas modders do it for the love.
Anywho, speaking of, I had an unsatisfying game as Francistria so I decided to go for a more pure-combat game as communist Olenia. Olenia has stood up!
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 01:06:45 No. 12272
>>12271 >Yeah I guess you have a point there. I still don't like it ideologically though.
Honestly I'd like it if they buffed Italy, Japan and minor Axis nations more to make the game more interesting.
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 01:24:56 No. 12273
Yeah but then Wehraboos playing on recruit difficulty with a load of broken national spirits/tech buffs couldn't pretend to be strategic masterminds
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 01:25:30 No. 12274
On top of that, the "'historical' AI" option having Germany collapsing when trying to kill the low countries wouldn't be too exciting
t. saw this happening when i needed the bastards to help me on my war against the USSR. 0/10, would not recommend
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 14:23:11 No. 12284
Gets shit on semi-regularly lmao
Anonymous 2021-09-15 (Wed) 17:11:39 No. 12285
in the 1920s we were called philosemites, now were called antisemites
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 00:45:49 No. 12286
regarding mods i like to use mods that are generally vanilla
>combat width redesigned
makes the division designer more fun, a mod so good that paradox decided to copy them
>EQ capture 70%
captures 70% of equipment from encircled enemies
makes the enemy vaguely more sane
>focus tree backgrounds >insignia collection >more division icons >new ideologies icons
makes it so that all wars aren't total wars
nukes only destroy the organization if dropped on an army, this mod destroys all the supplies the army has too
lets you start with bicycles
>vanilla super events
also use the battle planner and only micro when needed, it's fine
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 10:59:31 No. 12289
But i think that is sorta solved in the mentioned paths though?
In Speer's route Germoney's empire just gets reformed into the EU but without elections basically and even Moscow is basically just turned into 'West-Russia' as opposed to 'East-Russia'
Same with Japans empire, It just gets reformed into an Alt-History version of ASEAN basically.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 11:15:35 No. 12290
Signals are apparently multiplayer meta, so put them in everything. Also line artillery is way better than support artillery, so if you aren't sure go with line over support.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 13:17:24 No. 12291
>>12289 >In Speer's route Germoney's empire just gets reformed into the EU but without elections basically and even Moscow is basically just turned into 'West-Russia' as opposed to 'East-Russia' >Same with Japans empire, It just gets reformed into an Alt-History version of ASEAN basically.
Realistically this wouldn't happen. Their is still a relationship between the two countries of colonization and genocide. In Reality no way a compromise could be reached.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 13:27:32 No. 12293
Couldn't you say the same about Germany and Japan in real life? Yet they manage/d to have their little spheres of influence in OTL. Or America and Latin America/Africa, they did genocide and war crimes constantly in those regions yet most of the countries there are happy enough to be part of the wider US sphere.
Materialism, son, if the economic factors forced Russia to rely on German aid, and Germany was willing to somewhat de-Nazify and apologise for Generalplan Ost, I think plenty of the Russian unifiers wouldn't find it impossible to co-operate with Speer's European Union.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 13:36:50 No. 12294
the diffrence is that IOTL thye didn't have to military occupy areas with larger populations and sizes then our own. Counterinsurgency is hard in small countries, its near impossible in very large ones. Especially for Germany in Russia where the guerillas would be supplied by Russians. Their is no way militarily that the Axis could hold their conquests without a foreverwar.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 13:48:57 No. 12295
We're talking about the Speer route though, where Germany withdraws from Russia and takes a soft-touch approach with the rest of their European possessions (or gives them full independence), then aligns them into the German/European pact via economics.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 14:20:22 No. 12297
I tried it but the mod for me seemes be broken, as every single capitulation ends in a white peace without any conferance or anything. Dunno, maybe its on my end, I pirated the current instal of HoI4 a few months back so maybe something is out of date, however its weird that TNO works perfectly.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 14:23:41 No. 12298
Realistically, that would make Eastern Europe into a German Cechnya, with Ukranian/Pole/Lithuanian/Latvian/Estonian nationalists blowing up Berlin metros every other week.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 15:03:50 No. 12299
Nice, who did you play?
Definitely worth having an up to date game version, but I saw a bug the other day where a country kept capitulating another then the war ending in a white peace, then they invaded again (and so on) so maybe it is a known issue. Sorry you had problems with it.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 16:19:28 No. 12301
I played the Changeling empire. The war was really fun, it's a nice change to play on this massive blob of a continent rather than Earth. I was able to play with massive battleplans, 20 divisions of tanks, stuff that I never get to do in KR. And afterwards, the occupation part, the writing is really good for all the events, I think it's comparable with TNO. I'm still playing through it now.
Damn who are these guys? And who should I play next?
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 17:36:58 No. 12307
Holy fuck, they sound based
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 19:43:33 No. 12309
This… looks really badass, what the fuck?
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 20:35:13 No. 12311 >>12309 >>12307
I told ya'll motherfuckers to play this shit. Though when Zebrica will actually be released - nobody knows. It's been teased for over a year now. For anyone that doesn't know, the Kirin live on another continent that hasn't been released yet, so this guy isn't out yet.
Yes, I really like having a different map, I wish more mods were like this and had a non-Earth map, like fantasy worlds, or sci-fi, alternate universe, whatever.
As for the Pax Chrystalia, yes, it is a very good and cool path. I do have to warn you that this is the closest that the game gets to TNO in terms of narrative, tone, et cetera (though plenty of other countries have good and immersive narratives, none of them emulate TNO as closely as this).
Anyway, as for who you should play next… well, if you like a big war, then I would recommend maybe playing one of the Griffonian Empire states, as they have to fight to reunify the nation after the death of Emperor Grover. There's the Griffonian Empire proper (supremacist theocracy or maniac autocracy), Feathisa (the Netherlands, liberal monarchy), Strawberry Duchy (deranged Queen, or possibly a socialist route IIRC), Yale Rectorate (University state, this is one of the harder paths), or Bronzehill (Diamond Dogs, can pretty much pick any ideology that includes reunifying the kingdom including monarcho-socialism - I had a lot of fun with this one). Then there's others that I forget but they'll all be in Griffon Empire yellow at the start so you can see them all.
Alternately, you could try the Aquilean (French) Revolution, or Wingbardy (Italy) which all have their own spheres to dominate.
Or, you could try River Republic (and other countries in their bloc) and create the possibly-socialist Eurozone.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 20:37:17 No. 12312
Oh, and one thing I forgot - I played the Equestrian Resistance path and thought it was a perfect capstone to the Equestrian continent content, really enjoyed it - though if you're not that into the show lore, you might not get as much out of it as me. As you would expect, Equestria is the country that relies most on canon content.
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 20:45:12 No. 12313
In my defence it has been a while since I last played EaW lmao
Speaking of which, anyone ever tried the Escalation '84 submod?
Anonymous 2021-09-16 (Thu) 21:01:27 No. 12314
I didn't even know there was any submods. Balefire Blues sounds fun too.
Oh but that reminds me, make sure you play with the EaW music mods enabled and the 3d models reskin, really cool to have unique models for most countries.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 04:10:48 No. 12320
TNO needed something like this to break up events. Wonder how hands on it will be, or if it will be a one and done hands off deal.
I'm a tester on EaW and I want to say, give it time in the oven. Devs are hard at work and there's a good amount of meat on the bones already but polish is worth it. Hopefully a lot more focus trees to come.
Personal recommendations for further playthroughs:
Barrad Magocracy (A very special unique mechanic in this one too. Worth it for everyone.)
Arcturian Order (Interesting events, if rather bland gameplay wise. Due for a rework in the coming updates.)
Crystal Empire's Sombra path (If you like something weird and sort of dated but still challenging)
Baltimare, Lavender Berry's path (Based off of Beria.)
County of Greifwald - Griffonian Free Territory (A challenge. Consider it a pretty good feat if you defeat Aquilea)
Last thing: Zebrica is not just Zebrica. It's got a few more major gameplay tweaks that improve and update more bland areas of EaW.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 08:13:00 No. 12325
With CWIC what is the difference between the Austria options for the Soviets? Should I anschluss, create a communist east Austria, or united neutral? The FRG is researching the "reject de-nazifaction" national focus fwiw.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 11:00:35 No. 12326
Btw what the fuck is with this cursed antisemite stalin national focus path? It confuses me so much because the devs seem like hardline communists going by the rest of the USSR stuff. Any point strategy wise in doing any of them?
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 13:11:38 No. 12327
>>12325 >With CWIC what is the difference between the Austria options for the Soviets? Should I anschluss, create a communist east Austria, or united neutral?
Pretty much just those as far as I'm aware, as for what you should do, I'd personally create a communist East Austria lmao
>The FRG is researching the "reject de-nazifaction" national focus fwiw.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 16:44:02 No. 12329
>>12326 >Any point strategy wise in doing any of them?
Honestly, only reason I even considered doing them was because of the Political Power I gain from doing some of them tbh
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 19:52:28 No. 12333
its because its hilarious
>The Jews are the source of all our problems, they pull the strings of the capitalist governments
everything I read that I burst out laughing
Do second anschluss because having Austria be in the game increases lag more countries = more lag also having a stronger DDR is helpful as the USSR in WW3.
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 21:37:23 No. 12334
Is there any way of winning CWIC as the soviets without waging a (world)war?
Anonymous 2021-09-18 (Sat) 23:39:18 No. 12336
No idea tbh, coups against NATO countries maybe?
Anonymous 2021-09-19 (Sun) 01:29:03 No. 12339
Now that it seems like South-America is going to be getting more focus / paths soon considering the Cold - Southern - Springs people have joined TNO the question must be asked.
Do you guys think we will be getting a Gonzalo Path for Peru? And if so. If you win against the government does the OFN try to dogpile you like Long Yun in China?
Anonymous 2021-09-19 (Sun) 01:51:14 No. 12341
>>12339 >First spoiler
Probably, that or a coup
Anonymous 2021-09-19 (Sun) 05:38:32 No. 12343
The logic with Gus and Reg is that even if they are not evil themselves, their coming to power would either necesitate the country being shit, or making it shit due to the reaction to their coming to power. So, Gus is le bad because if he was elected that meas a) US is a burning dumpsterfire which makes his path instantly worse than say most others through no fault of his own, and b) his policies will rock the boat and cause even more chaos. As for Birch, he is a traditional ML guy, but the reaction to him will be violent and the Stirlingites will start a mass partisan war, which would completely fuck England for a time, hence its worse than the stable colab/non-Birch HMMLR paths.
Anonymous 2021-09-19 (Sun) 11:48:13 No. 12344
>>12342 ><Straight up spawns new resources out of the fucking ground. ><Oil production in every state, Oil crisis? never heard of it!
Fucking kek, didn't know about this lmao
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 03:07:31 No. 12351
The Kaganovich storyline was pretty shit. It just randomly becomes "oh yeah Stalin is evil btw, here's a bunch of evil events that are happening now" out of the blue in the third act.
Anonymous 2021-09-20 (Mon) 07:10:10 No. 12352
I only did Cornman, and that was also kinda weird. As far as I recal, only evil things Lazar does no matter what are working penal labourers to death and not deploying AA guns to protect the villages (which while bad, is understandable). Then he passes a lot of inoffensive and even good legislation through focuses which empower Cornmans wing. Then Cornman coups him and its implied he is a saviour from tyranny. If I didn't know better, I'd say that this was made by a Stalin simpathizer who implies that Stalin was actually alright but Cornman just couped hin and sullied his reputation.
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 02:03:24 No. 12355
look at the dev diary
this is literally what happens if you take a ultra left interpertation of deng and make him into a character
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 04:43:50 No. 12356
equestria at war looks pretty good but i feel like this is how new mlp fans are generated, hope there's a de-ponified version of it
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 12:14:07 No. 12360
>>12356 >hope there's a de-ponified version of it
There is lmao
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 12:23:19 No. 12361
you can mostly ignore the pony shit tbh. i'm not into the cartoon at all and it's pretty good
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 19:11:27 No. 12370
>>12356 >noooooo i can't play anything that doesn't have humans in it, it's ruined
now you see how we furries/bronies feel all the time
Anonymous 2021-09-21 (Tue) 23:15:30 No. 12371
going out of this, i like the idea for that submod for EaW, escalation 84, but it kinda feels generic, the trees feels copy pasted, the issues the surviving human countries have get resolved way too quick, and there is barelly any interaction with the nations of the world, i dunno it has potential to make interesting but feels too bare bones at the moment
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 18:26:26 No. 12384
you know this sub mod really reveals how absurd equestria at war is.
literally feudalmedievial enlightment ww1 and ww2 era mixed together
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 20:24:56 No. 12386
Anyone has thoughts about Pacifica coming back to TNO? Her Komi stuff seems pretty alright and she deffinetly is a good modder, but I have a huge distaste for all of the old devs due to the Panzer connection.
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 21:59:23 No. 12389
She'll be out soon enough, the old Panzerite Clique is a rotting corpse.
Anonymous 2021-09-22 (Wed) 22:13:28 No. 12390
redpill me on panzer and the old tno team
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 05:19:55 No. 12397
part of the description
8: Not everypony is happy about your new megaprojects. The construction workers endure long hours with very little pay. Progress is halted by strikes. Do you listen to the workers, or send in the police to force them to comply? Clearly the legacy of Caramel Marks still lingers over Equestria. It is time to address it once and for all, starting with the traitorous province in the north. Surely we can drum up some sympathisers within Stalliongrad to dislodge the communists?
And yet, when Daybreaker looks around at her cabinet, all she sees are greedy nobles and industrialists. They do not care for her vision of ponykind's glorious ascension over the other races, only lining their own pockets. They are the ones who embody the decadent and stagnant system she rose to replace. Honestly, can she blame Steel Stallion for rebelling when those nobles conspired to keep their abhorrent treatment of their fellow pony from Celestia's watchful eye? Perhaps those unionists are right in hating them? Perhaps it is time for Daybreaker to cease catering to the parasites of Equestria and start elevating the rest of ponykind?
Yes, Communist Daybreaker is a real pathway.
NAZBOL NAZBOL NAZBOL MONARCHONAZBOL WITH EQUESTRIAN CHARACTERISTICS
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 07:08:07 No. 12398
There is a lot of hateposts on Panzer ITT already, but to sum up:
>Narrative founder of TNO universe >Autistically auteur to the extreme, once purged all the devs over a single leak. Eventually quit TNO post-release because he thought people didn't take it seriously >Thinks he is a supper good writter, citing GRR Martin as his inspiration, while his only real experiance before TNO were Fallout fanfics. >Primary theme for him is "Nazies ebul ergo world where Nazies win becomes ebul in all aspects", which conflicts really hard with making an interesting and realistic alt-history >All of his personally created paths or story points are/were ranging from pretty bad or stupid to absolutely insulting: Ostland, Urals, Heydrich redemption, Atlantropa, DSR >Attempted to fuck up a ton of other paths in Russia before the Russia dev team stepped in and stopped him - his plan was to give every unifier a killpeopleist path just becasue
As for the old devs, I don't think they are all bad, and its more likely they just did what Panzer said just because they didn't want to piss him off. However, under their tenure a lot of other stupid shit was done as well, mainly the autistic obssesion of painting NPP-L and Hall as baby-eaters. Also I am certain a bunch of old devs are still on the mod, however I think the main stars have left, especially after their little conflict with rightoid doxxers from kiwifarms.
Anonymous 2021-09-23 (Thu) 23:50:32 No. 12406
inb4 the only equestrian communist tree is daybreaker
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 00:48:57 No. 12408
Left sounds based but right sounds very very cringe
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 11:46:28 No. 12411
I kinda want to try TNO is there any country that has a good and fun communist path?
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 13:17:13 No. 12413
Deffine good and fun. If by fun you mean cool focuses, then there are a lot of them in Russia. And if by good you mean wholesome, then yeah, there are a few, mainly Komi and Buyratya as previoisly said. But if by good you mean interestingly written, then I'd say Buyratya doesn't cut it, at least now. Komi is great however, and also there is an IRA path for Ireland. But honestly there aren't many great communist paths outside of Russia for now, mainly because the nations that would have them aren't finished. However there should be a ton of them in time, like shit, Italy will have 9 communist paths ranging from Pol Pot to Bernie with everything in between, and I think in the next update they will add in resitance group mechanics to Speer's Germany that will make an RAF path possible if you do it right. Also for now there is a pretty cool if more of a socdem path for Brazil which I liked a lot.
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 13:44:14 No. 12414
Thank you both, I'll try komi
Anonymous 2021-09-24 (Fri) 22:18:32 No. 12417
>>12413 >Also for now there is a pretty cool if more of a socdem path for Brazil which I liked a lot.
the João Goulart path ?
Anonymous 2021-09-25 (Sat) 03:51:11 No. 12422
i save scum so hard in ck2 that I might as well be using cheats
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 06:45:00 No. 12455
I'm reading/listening to Fallout: Equestria so I can play Balefire Blues. Goddamn this bitch is long, fuckin 600k words. This mod better be good.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 08:21:06 No. 12458
>>12455 >complains about fallout equestria over length >HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.mp3
pal you havent seen length until ya read fallout equestria project horizons
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 10:43:33 No. 12459
Why can't these uyghas understand 'brevity is wit'. I mean it's not a bad story but I swear we've wasted at least 100k words recapping things we already know and trying to make them sound epic; ie. "Littlepip knew that her friends had suffered. Her friend Steelhooves had suffered XYZ" and so on.
Anonymous 2021-09-26 (Sun) 19:33:58 No. 12475
because the person that created it was a fanfic writer and because of that they are naturally semi retarded
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 01:43:38 No. 12502
Is that you Tomoko Stalin-stache? the heck are you doing out of /GET/?
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 01:45:51 No. 12503
I am not him. I just like Tomoko too.
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 02:11:52 No. 12504 >>12503
Ah, good. Stalin-stache Tomoko used to be amusing and have decent posts but then jumped off the deep end, so we are… apprehensive.
On that note, interesting post and analysis, this kind of anti-Soviet bias in vidya and media in general is called Klyukva in Russia, just fun fact for ya, from a friendly neighborhood Rusanon.
Also Tomoko thread if you're interested
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 03:23:58 No. 12506
What's that mean?
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 03:32:00 No. 12507 >>12504
Thanks for pointing me to to that thread, comrade.
>Ah, good. Stalin-stache Tomoko used to be amusing and have decent posts but then jumped off the deep end, so we are… apprehensive.
That is a shame, if he is still around let us hope he gets better.
>On that note, interesting post and analysis
You are generous to a rant post with green text but yeah it is interesting
Some other bullshit
>Great Purge happened because Stalin was a paranoid maniac >Actually both Stalin and Hitler have the exact same leader traits with both being Paranoid Megalomaniacs >Five-Year plans increase dissent and barely build your industries at all
Not that i expected these events to be written by Grover Furr but damn. And taking this thread as an example it does not seem HOI IV is that much better when it comes to writing socialists/Soviets
>>12504 >On that note, interesting post and analysis, this kind of anti-Soviet bias in vidya and media in general is called Klyukva in Russia, just fun fact for ya, from a friendly neighborhood Rusanon.
Could you tell us more?
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 03:43:13 No. 12509 >>12506
It's a type of berry eaten in former soviet territories, used in an idiom about bad soviet/russian caricatures.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Развесистая_клюква >>12507 >That is a shame
Indeed, half the Soviet Tomoko OC got made 'cause of him
>other bullshit <typical burger memes about gorillions and Stalin = Hitler
In regards to Klyukva?
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 03:54:43 No. 12510
>>12507 >Stalin was a paranoical maniac that did not trust his own shadow >somehow this Paranoid trusted hitler, the guy that openly stated that he wanted to gaz the slavs
This doesent make any sense.
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 04:04:43 No. 12511
It doesn't make sense IRL either, but people still repeat it for actual history.
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 04:35:11 No. 12512
>>12509 >Indeed, half the Soviet Tomoko OC got made 'cause of him
We can never have enough of that i guess. I made some like the gift in
and some other low quality stuff you can find in the booru but i have not made more because i just have not bee into Watamote for a long time, as much as i like Tomoko as a character
>In regards to Klyukva?
><typical burger memes about gorillions and Stalin = Hitler
Talk about memes
>Steamroll Finland in Winter War >Still get negative events related to it, saying that Soviet Forces had a pathetic performance and got a bloody nose and humiliation
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 04:43:47 No. 12514 >>12512 >not bee into Watamote for a long time, as much as i like Tomoko as a character
>Still get negative events related to it, saying that Soviet Forces had a pathetic performance and got a bloody nose and humiliation
Pretty much like in reality, pic related (translation in link notes):
Essentially Klyukva originated as a term some time ago but it became more a of a culturally common term in post Soviet Russia (partially due to the internet). A good example of pure Klyukva is the film Red Dawn. Combining Russian stereotypes (ushanka, vodka, mongol hordes) and generic communist stereotypes (murdering kids, totalitarianism, incompetence etc.) all set to main characterss that are so pure and patriotic and good. TL;DR: In Soviet Russia [X happens] essentially
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 06:46:27 No. 12515
Look at this fucking memey ahistorical crap lol
Also more free dissent because of course
I will still try and win too
It was very good when it was interesting and funny and it was good to see Tomoko becoming less anxious but it is so boring now.
Thanks for the info. Even after the end of the USSR the bourgeois will never let its image rest for that would be far too dangerous
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 13:06:14 No. 12521
just checked what is involved in modding. Modding focus trees seem super ez. I can really appreciate how much of a scum paradox are for selling them for so much.
But that means it would be prolly ez to make some changes to commies trees to make them more fun
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 13:43:45 No. 12522
The struggle of socialism is ongoing as always.
Anonymous 2021-09-27 (Mon) 15:31:54 No. 12525
>>12521 >Modding is so ez
Yeah, its even scummier with Stellaris where any sort of flavour pack is what, 10 bucks? Though at least those have quality, most in depth focus trees from parashit are basically sub-standart even for Kaiserreich.
Anonymous 2021-09-28 (Tue) 11:35:28 No. 12546
At least the new DLC has choochoos so I can play two autistic games in one.
Anonymous 2021-09-29 (Wed) 06:02:24 No. 12554
lmao I was literally saying all of these things when I was getitng those events. I marched right up to the german border while they were finishing up in France with loads of motorized and tanks in like 1939 and declared war on Germany and got fucking shreked by debuff event spam and like 2-3 shitty german infantry jn each border province. The issent modifiers are the worsr. If you have a bunch of mods and play USSR it's easy to go like the whole game crippled and under revolt 70 percent dissent or whatever just from these stupid anticommunist propaganda events. I am not even sure if you can win as USSR on the all in one modpack unless you spam money cheats to lower dissent and spam supply cheats so you can keep the economy permanently focused on lowering dissent. The hoi series always has ridiculous and game breaking amounts of anticommunist and wehraboo cope events. I've always wanted to just edit these mods and snip out all of that and repack it.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 12:15:47 No. 12605
Japan never intervenes in Siberia, you should be fine as per Tuva as you can peacefully reunify if you have similar ideologies. Sablin gets ridiculous bonuses so you probably have it in the bag.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 12:19:36 No. 12606
>>12604 >After narrowly deciding against playing Croatia so I could eventually play Tito
Unfortunately, even if you did play Croatia, neither they, nor Tito has any content, I believe there is a submod in development that is currently making content for Croatia, so your best bet is to play with that for if it comes out
Speaking of submods, get the 2WRW submod, it enables you to go to war with Germany and get all your land back, although not much content, just a button you press in the decisions menu, but there is some content in development that aims to do just more than that, hell one of the devs for it has posted some stuff here
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 13:20:27 No. 12607
Why isn't there a Larouche path for America? Given how schizoid TNO already is why not add it?
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 15:18:55 No. 12609
I know you cant actually get the 'Bad ends' for Britain as of current build in TNO. But what are they anyway?
I haven't played england that much but i know there is 1 'SUPER UNWHOLESOME CURSED PATH' for the government and 2 for the rebels.
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 18:05:23 No. 12618
Fingers crossed for TNO2 path. Also I don't think La Rouche was that active during the 60's. Seems more like 76/80 candidate for NPP
Anonymous 2021-09-30 (Thu) 18:09:37 No. 12620
A literal Nazi Chasterton takes over and purges the shit out of Britain
Stirling coups collabs in case of HMMLR defeat and govn. fuckup and purges every single person who had any dealings with the collabs
Reg Birch wins out SLP power struggle and tries to transform Brittain into DotP because he is a trad ML. This triggers Strilingites who start a new partisan war thats like Years of Lead or worse.
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 20:11:57 No. 12656
>>12645 >the "pro trump" and "anti trump" choices make no difference, the killing of soleimani and the police brutality happens anyway
Kek, fuck me, this is way too realistic in how there's no difference between dems and repubs.
Anonymous 2021-10-01 (Fri) 22:49:36 No. 12658
sorry that i'm this terminally online, is this a parody or what ?.
Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 00:29:15 No. 12660
its the, The Fire Rises mod
Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 01:07:49 No. 12665
yes i read the image its just like but just like
showed this mod feels like a parody of the US politics
Anonymous 2021-10-02 (Sat) 01:14:42 No. 12666
well its where the US goes into a civil war
Anonymous 2021-10-03 (Sun) 15:43:18 No. 12700
Are there any mods for these games that are actually good? Was playing the CK3 mod with the black sun guy and it seemed really retarded. You couldn't mouseover anything without an excessive amount of retarded exposition and lore popping up for no reason. Supposedly TNO is also like this which sounds fucking dumb. Why are all the mods for these games filled with an autismal amount of retarded lore telling you all about Johnny Wilkin's Third Nipple even though it's only tangentally related to the plot and only mentioned as a footnote even then.
Anonymous 2021-10-03 (Sun) 15:47:37 No. 12701
TNO is like a visual novel.
Kaisereich has the world-conquering paths.
>>12700 >hy are all the mods for these games filled with an autismal amount of retarded lore telling you all about Johnny Wilkin's Third Nipple even though it's only tangentally related to the plot and only mentioned as a footnote even then.
Anonymous 2021-10-03 (Sun) 15:55:44 No. 12702
Dumb. Kill yourself.
Anonymous 2021-10-03 (Sun) 15:57:05 No. 12704
I must consult the Book of Rage.
Anonymous 2021-10-04 (Mon) 23:39:51 No. 12742
the US is more authoritarian than both nazi germany and the USSR but i don't see this kind of comparation with either
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 00:28:39 No. 12744
If East Germany had all that extra land it would be far more powerful than it was in reality.
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 01:16:55 No. 12745
How the fuck do you get a NPP-C 50+ majority? I need it to pass RFK's Radical civil rights.
Also if RFK gets assassinated are you meant to repeal the civil rights act or keep it as Thurmond if you want John Glenn to pass 'Revolutionary civil rights' after he gets elected? Like is John Glenn passing 'revolutionary civil rights' in RESPONSE to Thurmond completely callously crushing RFK's work or is it meant to be him BUILDING ON the still in effect 'Radical Civil Rights'?
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 03:16:03 No. 12752 >>12301 >>12307 >>12309 >>12311
These guys are coming with Zebrica's first release. They're the Hippogriff communists.
Here's their flag
Grillpilled Schizo 2021-10-05 (Tue) 05:22:24 No. 12753
I think you can't get 50+ without loosing the SAW right after getting the worst discontent with the war events. However I am pretty sure you can get radical CRA without majortity by taking the correct side-focuses like speaking with MLK. What is your game plan by the way? If its Hall, then you don't need Radical CRA, if its wholesome socdem USA, then what the hell are you doing playing NPP-C, LBJ->McGovern should be the goal.
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 07:10:37 No. 12758
Because slavery = FREEDUMB!!! Seriously though they have weaponized the aesthetics of freedom into their propaganda for so long that Americans and their simps have completely bought into the joke.
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 22:59:02 No. 12793
Is Omsk based or cringe?
Anonymous 2021-10-05 (Tue) 23:35:29 No. 12806
Based, death to the Germs
Anonymous 2021-10-06 (Wed) 14:52:25 No. 12815
My LBJ>MCgovern USA game was sorta black pilling tbh.
You canonically literally make America in practice the best place to live in this universe
Assuming that the soviets dont return in russia of course
But conservatards got too triggered that i was being nice to black people. So the NPP won the senate in 72, McGovern only won with like 272 electoral voots. Meaning he wasn't even able to pass his flagship policies like dismantling the MIC.
Anonymous 2021-10-07 (Thu) 14:49:28 No. 12850
But for maximum based you need a unified south urals under BLACK MOUNTAIN which is then peacefully annexed by Zhdanovite West-Russia giving you their buffs and generals.
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 14:05:56 No. 12915
>Asleep in my apartment inside housing unit 56//# (these are nicknamed Pokryshkin flats fyi) In downtown Novosibirsk. >Gets woken up by them turning on the giant neon sign on the side of the housing unit opposite mine, It's advertising some new gaming system made as a joint effort between TITAN(TM) and SONY(TM) >Walk to work. >See a few Narodniks getting their heads dented by FENIKS(TM) Private law enforcement personnel, probably got caught trying to hand out 'how to unionise cards' to people at the FENIKS factory again. >Walks past some people watching TV through a shop window, Pokryshkin and Shukshin are having another debate. >Shukshin wont do enough, will vote for him out of desperation just to get rid of Pokryshkin though. >I stop in at the SIBIR fast food place on the way to work, their algorithm works out what i probably want best as i walk through the door and it's presented to me as soon as i reach the pick up counter. >mfw SIBIR datamining oligarchs raised the price of chocolate soylent and rice cakes again. feels bad man
Anonymous 2021-10-10 (Sun) 18:19:30 No. 12919
Novosibirsk is unironically more grim than even some of the funni paths in TNO. And no, Shukshin 2WRW campaign didn't fully pay back for it. Only an Ostland CW Kovner executions tier event but with Pokryshkin could fix it.
Anonymous 2021-10-11 (Mon) 12:42:11 No. 12943
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/q5o3j3/whats_life_like_for_the_average_american_citizen/ >Some of the comments are calling out the devs for their bullshit about Gus Hall and his alleged homophobia and how it is somehow worse than any other President
Based comments tbh
Anonymous 2021-10-12 (Tue) 05:21:57 No. 12967
I still dont get the cope that George Wallace bending to Yockey / Nazis and implementing nationwide racial-segregation and basically starting the George Floyd riots x2000 all across America. doesn't 'lose America the cold war' or 'make the light of liberty go out' or whatever the fuck.
But Hall just by getting elected automatically makes America 'authoritarian' (He was literally elected lol wtf?) socialist and gives them a gloomy blue colour palate
Grillpilled Schizo 2021-10-12 (Tue) 10:36:19 No. 12970
I think it is some sort of anglosphere cope about their system being the bestest ever, thus every timeline where England or US moves away from it automatically is bad. Its the reason why TNO Italy is likely to get 9 serious and actually unbiased commie paths, why you have MLs like Khruschev, Suslov, Zhukovs libsoc advisor or that Irkutsk party guy being painted in rather positive light, but then Birch and Hall are basically satan and "2nd worst path" for their respective anglosphere countries.
Anonymous 2021-10-12 (Tue) 20:41:31 No. 12980
>>12943 >>12967 >>12970
in reality their is no such thing as good or bad
Anonymous 2021-10-12 (Tue) 23:01:43 No. 12983
you moron. you fucking imbecile
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 00:03:47 No. 12985
prove that good and evil exist
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 00:51:31 No. 12986
Why do the TNO devs ban you for supporting Hall?
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 03:06:57 No. 12989
Becuz they're soy libs
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 14:41:58 No. 12993
I will shoot your mom, and presumably it won't bother you because there's no meaning to morality lmao
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 18:44:53 No. 13007
Shooting his mom and his resulting emotional reaction or lack thereof doesn't prove one way or another that good and evil exist.
If you shot Adolf Hitler, Eva Braun would probably be really sad about it, but that doesn't factor into the moral substance of the act.
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 20:06:57 No. 13012
If the only thing that makes you care about your mom is a social construct you have a serious and very real brain issue
Anonymous 2021-10-13 (Wed) 20:42:51 No. 13014
something something horseshoe theory
Anonymous 2021-10-15 (Fri) 03:46:08 No. 13045
How the fuck do you get Barry Goldwater in the NPP-L?
Anonymous 2021-10-15 (Fri) 16:19:28 No. 13047
How do you guys feel about hyperborea?
Anonymous 2021-10-16 (Sat) 18:57:03 No. 13063
is thier a /leftypol/ hoi4 multiplayer group
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 01:18:22 No. 13065
Would love to have someone co-op with me in a Japan/Manchukuo game
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 02:24:58 No. 13066
Hilarious path, very fun.
Anonymous 2021-10-17 (Sun) 17:31:28 No. 13073
Quite the art making such a large screenshot totally unreadable
Anonymous 2021-10-18 (Mon) 15:21:18 No. 13089
Think I've just had the worst game of V2 I've ever played as Portugal on GFM
>can't invade brazil because it's fucking perma-allied to the UK for some reason >can't colonize because railroading events just hand out most of africa before anyone has the technological capabilities to do it properly >lose the entire congo where most of my holdings are because me, #9 on the power list, 200 diplo with all GPs, gets cucked by a literally who totally irrelevant and collapsed belgium 60 years of boring and 5 years of "fuck this shitty playthrough", I was already pissed off with how boring it was before I loaded it up for 30 minutes and quit Also absolutely fuck whoever came up with the sphere system and got it into the final game, love bouncing around #8 with three other idiots and it messing up our economies, being unable to sphere anyone because the AI is perfect at managing them, losing my standing with every country when I drop from GP, and having some cunt unsphereing me and then leaving me unsphered afterwards
Anonymous 2021-10-18 (Mon) 20:26:25 No. 13092
Have there been any announcements on Victoria 3 and what they're replacing the sphere system with? Because it's one of my least favorite things about V2.
Anonymous 2021-10-20 (Wed) 01:25:18 No. 13121
The Sphering system also seemed broken to me especially because (iirc) it gives economic bonuses to the GP/Overlord in charge.
You could get absolutely fucking OP as france FAST in vic2 by basically just slowly expanding your European sphere of influence, Taking lelgium, Switzerland and the Italian secondary powers,
And then sniping the Netherlands, Spain and the Ottomemes when they dropped from great power status.
It's Also awfully broken in regards to Germany.
You can stop germany from ever forming by just taking one OPM into your sphere as either france, UK or Russia.
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