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 No.13224[View All]

Its out soon. Any other HOI4 etc. grand strategy enthusiasts here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p26A0H3IoO4

The Second World War’s hardest fighting was on the Eastern Front of Europe.

No Step Back is the newest expansion for Hearts of Iron IV, Paradox Interactive’s grand strategy wargame about the world crisis of the 1930s and World War II. This expansion adds greater detail for many nations in Eastern Europe, unique game systems to reflect Soviet politics, and many improvements to the military aspect of the game.

>New Soviet National Focuses.


>New Polish National Focuses.


>New Baltic National Focuses: Shared alternate history paths for Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, as well as unique paths for each.


>Army Officer Corps: Build a general staff, drawing on the talents and expertise of available officers to take advantage of changes in technology and tactics.


>Army Spirits: Emphasize certain characteristics of your military arms, adding general bonuses to certain units types or even aiding division design.


>Supply System Updates: Scorched Earth tactics, floating harbors and special supply units added to the logistics system.


>Tank Designer: Design your own armored force using modules prioritizing speed, gun power, armor or even production cost.


>Railway Guns: Commission the grandest, most prestigious of artillery pieces, uniquely designed to deal with entrenched foes, and fortified positions.
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 No.14546

>>14545
tho to be fair this game doesnt have the political economic production sides of hoi 3 it still is way more complicated in the war department than hoi3

 No.14547

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Anyone tried this overhaul mod for Imperator Rome?
Besides that, remember Imperator Rome? What happened?

 No.14548

>>14544
sounds like an autism fest, gonna try it to see how deep it goes.

 No.14550

>>14545
WitE is good but it lacks the logistical side of things for me

 No.14551

>>14545
>supposed to be an in depth war simulation
>turn-based

oh no no no

 No.14552

>>14547
>remember Imperator Rome? What happened?
They tried to just keep it on the backburner for a long time and slowly improve the game. It was ALMOST getting to a state that would have been acceptable at launch but then Leviathan dropped for EU4, the masssive shitstorm followed and Paradox decided to take Imperator out back and shoot it for EU4's failure and moved the entire team to damage control for EU4 indefinitely.

Also I've tried Invictus, it's alright, it basically makes Imperator a decent game. Not great but decent. More flavour for certain historical nations, more custom events etc.

 No.14561

so does any comrade have any Hoi 4 modding guide around ?, i want to mess around with it, and (hopefully) make a mod in the future.

 No.14563

>>14547
>>14552
I remember when it was being shilled on /v/ and I was like, it's just gonna be a glossier clone of EU Rome, and now they've all forgotten about it because it's just a shallow clone of EU Rome.

 No.14567

>>14563
>it's just a shallow clone of EU Rome
Bold of you to assume it deserves such praise. Imperator is just EU4/CK2 with as much as possible stripped away so they could ship the actual proper game as DLC. Imperator was an EU4 DLC sold a separate game. No no, Imperator was a DLC investment platform. No no wait I can do better.: Imperator is Johan's fat filthy cock slipping down the Paradox fanboy's throat and then they thank him for it.

 No.14573

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All of the planned paths for the KMT warlords in Chyna in RedFlood.

Obviously we've got /ourguy/ in Hunan, And the Left-KMT and some more utopsocs/agrarians in Fujian and also SocDem Jingwei and Long-Yun lol

 No.14583

boy, that cold war mod has alot to say about le stalinism, must be nice being this brainless like a lib when it comes to history.

 No.14589

>>14583
Isn't that mod currently in the progress of making a new Stalin focus tree?

 No.14590

>>14589
as the roadmap posted by >>14493 shows that the will change Stalin's focus tree.

 No.14814

>the new TNO update has renamed auth socialism to Bukharinism
They somehow made it even worse. You can just absolutely tell whoever made the politics for TNO is a liberal arts student, this is Kaisserreich totalism levels of liberal politics. Because "haha communism is called stalinism and its called that because of stalin so if it was bukharin communism would be bukharinism". That's not how it works you fucking twats, have some fucking nuance.

 No.14815

>>14814
I genuinely prefer Authoritarian Socialism over that shit what the hell lmao
Does "Bukharinism" in TNO even incorporate any of Bukharin's actual theoretical contributions?

 No.14816

>>14814
Nah, it's one of the subtypes, the general ideology is still called Communism (sablin has it at the start), And Tyumen has Stalinism. Socialism still exist as general ideology for all non-marxist and not strictly leninist forms of leftwing political governments and economics.
( will agree that it's dumb that after Bukharin fucking up so badly, anyone follows his principles, but i guess this is nullified by these warlords usually revisioning him at some capacity (except Bessonov, Yagoda does Mega-Bukharinism i.e Dengism)

 No.14817

>>14816
>will agree that it's dumb that after Bukharin fucking up so badly, anyone follows his principles

Well it doesn't stop fascists

But seriously, the 'socialism/communism' ideology thing is the worst and they only did it because liberals/rightists were butthurt about libsocs being too blessed

 No.14818

>>14814
As the other anon said, AuthSoc wasn't renamed to Bukharinism lmao, Bukharinism is just a subideology

>>14817
>they only did it because liberals/rightists were butthurt about libsocs being too blessed
That's true lmao

 No.14819

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>>14817
>But seriously, the 'socialism/communism' ideology thing is the worst
Agreed, but i do think it's funny how sablin went from wholesome, to controversial after they just replaced his ideology, since communism is still seen as authsocs. For good, or bad, it will be awhile until we see Sablin actually getting reworked, apparently.
Also, have you checked TWR left ideology pool? It's nuts, thats what being admin for r/neoliberal does to you

 No.14820

>>14819
it's shit like this that makes me want to learn how to mod to not have just shit like this, holy shit.

 No.14821

>>14819
>Also, have you checked TWR left ideology pool? It's nuts, thats what being admin for r/neoliberal does to you
Kek, what?

 No.14822

>>14816
>>14818
>it's a subtype
No, they actually changed the general Auth Socialism to Bukharinism, old Auth Soc Sablin is now Bukharinism Suslov is now Bukharinism etc. Despite none of them actually doing anything related to bukharin's stuff. The icing on the cake is that Bukharina is lib soc still. Khrushchev is one of the outliers with stalinism and Tukhachevsky's version. They also changed Batov from it to despot for some reason. But I think around 50% of the old Auth soc leaders are now bukharinism.

 No.14823

>>14819
The TWR update ruined the politics, although they weren't that much better before. But Zhukov before just barged in after Beria's death and his answer to all the policy and economic questions was "KILL THE GERMAN".
>Drought in the fields?
<WATER IT WITH THE BLOOD OF THE GERMANS!
>Poor harvest?
<THE FIELDS SHALL BE FERTILIZED WITH THE BODIES OF DEAD GERMANS!
>Glue shortage?
<GRIND THE BONES OF THE GERMANS TO A PASTE, USE THEM INSTEAD OF HORSES BONES!
>Industry isn't up to snuff?
<OIL THE GEARS WITH GERMAN BLOOD
He was full sacred war mode, but in the new version he's just an outlying revisionist warlord with generic jingoist tendencies.

 No.14824

>>14823
>Zhukov's answer to all the policy and economic questions was "KILL THE GERMAN".
Wtf, Sigma Zhukov ?.

 No.14825

I swear there was a teaser for a mod where Inejiro Asanuma was leader of Japan

 No.14826

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>>14824
Yeah Zhukov was Marshal of the people to the extreme in old TWR. Like his central vision of the Soviet Union was as nothing more than an infinite war industry with which to absolutely destroy fascism. Kinda like Tukhachevsky in TNO in the Red Army being the state but more personal and more RIP AND TEAR and it all being a means to an end. And that end is dead germans and fascists.

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>>14825
Here it is i think, it's from The Red Order (TNO-Double Alt History Mod, Where USSR wins World War)
>>14823
>The TWR update ruined the politics
Not only that, but its also poorly optimized, Norilsk existing for literally no reason, only to have le funni nazbol Path. Suslov debacle (it's show how little devs understand in left politics). Turkenich is literally would-be Sablin of TWR, but bc devs are libs they still made him look bad, etc.
>>14822
You are kind of right, it is very weird and lazy, to make all non-sablin commies Bukharinist (especially my boy suslov, he like explicitly states that he hates bukharin and his weak policies), but i think it comes from last minute changes to ideology system, before update came out Bukharinism, was named Bolshevism, and def carried different connotation, still don't know why they changed it tho, it looked like Bloshevism could've been much more wide ranged
>old Auth Soc Sablin is now Bukharinism
Makes sense from Dev perspective, AuthSoc Sablin, narratively falls into Bukharinist "Temptation of Power", dus why ideologies switch, this was the point, at least.
>The icing on the cake is that Bukharina is lib soc still
Well she is more liberal, and leftcom (apparently?), In any way, devs are reworking her too, less wholesome, World Revolutionist, so probs libsoc won't be here for long

 No.14828

>>14827
God forbid we have any socialists in the game that aren't just repainted Stalinists

 No.14829

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>>14827
>still don't know why they changed it tho, it looked like Bloshevism could've been much more wide ranged
Like I said I think it's some weak ass logic of Stalinism=authoritarianism and Bukharin is TNO's version of Stalin. They probably think it's clever in some weird way, like they read the trivia on the wikipedia page and thought "oh that's deep".
>Well she is more liberal, and leftcom
Yeah I think she's left communism(???) but all her events and focuses keep mentioning that she's following in her father's footsteps so if anyone should be Bukharinism it should be her since she's ideologically the most like him, but she's not called that because Bukharinism=Authoritarian, not actually anything to do with Bukharin. There's several fucking layers of "What the fuck" going on here.

I don't expect much from the devs who got all preachy about how the DSR tree when it finally comes out will make them worse than Hitler because TNO is a 'realistic history simulation' where Germany somehow won despite all historians agreeing the only way that's possible is if the USSR was hit by an asteroid or something, and that TNO isn't about 'your politics' winning, when Russia is LITERALLY A FUCKING BATTLE ROYAL FOR IDEOLOGIES! Mods are fun, but when you start thinking you're hot shit and your mod is hot shit too, then you've ruined it.

Also why the fuck is Batov despot now, his policies don't involve empowering himself at all, his whole shtick is that the Red Army serves the people.

 No.14830

>>14829
Technically despotism just means 'absolute rule by one individual', it's not inherently negative (though it has other negative meanings)

 No.14831

>>14828
considering "Stalinists" is always just the wikipedia article about stalin and the stalin era i would like if Stalinists were also not repainted "Stalinists".

 No.14833

>>14827
>Here it is i think, it's from The Red Order (TNO-Double Alt History Mod, Where USSR wins World War)
Yeah, that's the one

 No.14834

>>14829
>Also why the fuck is Batov despot now, his policies don't involve empowering himself at all, his whole shtick is that the Red Army serves the people.
Isn't his (sub-)ideology "Military Junta"? (Although I think that certain sub-ideology might be in "AuthDem")

>>14831
Mhmm, who could make a decent "Stalinist" in TNO?

 No.14836

>>14830
In TNO Despotism just means kleptocratic or Pseud-fascist in regards to Russian Warlords I think.
>>14834
>Isn't his (sub-)ideology "Military Junta"
I think so yeah, but it's part of the despotism/Authdem group even though his whole thing is the red army being the state similar to Tukhachevsky and his focuses and events reinforce that it actually is a form of socialism at least as far at Batov is concerned, he's kind of on the same level as 1950s PRC of eternal war.

 No.14837

>>14829
Bukharina is underdeveloped, better wait for that komi rework.
>TNO is a 'realistic history simulation' where Germany somehow won despite all historians agreeing the only way that's possible is if the USSR was hit by an asteroid or something
As they say " History does not tolerate 'What ifs' ", every AH is unrealistic, and there no shame in accepting that your one is too, you can only be hypocrite and deny the obvious.
>Russia is LITERALLY A FUCKING BATTLE ROYAL FOR IDEOLOGIES
As Russian, ab yes, many Russian Players do see TNO Russia as some sort of wish fulfillment, even when your unifier is not shown in good light, or they are fucked up otl (e.g Rodz Simps)
>>14834
Last time i checked he was Stratocracy Enjoyer, don't know if that changed. (like TWR Suslov lol)
>Mhmm, who could make a decent "Stalinist" in TNO
Another rework was set to be done in Tyumen, they already removing Malenkov from Orenburg to put him somewhere else, and knowing his otl stances it would be easy to deduced where, so they started to re-collect actual "anti-party group" (the best one is if Molotov can take charge, good pragmatic politician, and diplomat, even Stalin Critized him for "making everything look too Official, and law clean")

 No.14838

>>14836
>I think so yeah, but it's part of the despotism/Authdem group even though his whole thing is the red army being the state similar to Tukhachevsky and his focuses and events reinforce that it actually is a form of socialism at least as far at Batov is concerned
Mhmm, so Batov is basically a softer version of Tukh?

>>14837
>(like TWR Suslov lol)
lel, I rememeber in the old version of TWR where Suslov was the man in charge of the NKVD garrison at that island where the Tsar Bomb nuclear test happened lmao

>(the best one is if Molotov can take charge, good pragmatic politician, and diplomat, even Stalin Critized him for "making everything look too Official, and law clean")

Kek

 No.14839

>>14838
>Mhmm, so Batov is basically a softer version of Tukh?
Kinda, his ideology is borne out of the time fighting the Germans and defying Yazov. He realized that what kept the tyrants away was the Red Army, and that it needed to be the shield of the people. Overall it's very flawed but in a good kind of way. It's flawed not in a "this makes no sense" way but instead in a very human way borne out of very specific circumstances, it's one of the few cases of good writing about the human condition towards ideology that isn't "Yo this acid ain't shit" and is more a case study of how a soviet general's ideology would evolve when surrounded by genocidal maniacs

 No.14840

>yfw someone is making a Rhodesia submod for TNO

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDCLUewXvZgx2tJXQHEUm4w/community?lb=UgkxXtY5T9OxiJdz97F3pMPSEILSHMfo69gT

>This mod isnt just for Rhodesiaboos

[X]

 No.14872

Which Russian empire (Not Russia in general, Particularly the Russian empire statelet) path in red-flood is the 'less bad' considering that socialists are not an option for them?

>Kolchak

>Drozdovsky
>Black-Hundreds
>Diterikhs
>Mladrossi.

 No.14875

>>14872
>Kolchak
<Literally status quo semifeudal shithole that doesn't change
>Drozdovsky
<Mass industrialization with proles still under Bourgeois thumb (with locomotive characteristics)
>Black Hundreds
<Literal Theocracy established upon Kolchak shithole
>Diterikhs
<Same as Black Hundreds situation
>Mladrossi
<Monarcho-socialist Accelerationism under a benevolent aristocrat
Honestly, you're best off with the Mladrossi path if you want the most /lefty/ outcome out of what you have.

 No.14916

>>14840
I guarantee the paths will either be

1) Mugabe Kill-whiteyism
2) Wholesome Ian Smith
3) Wholesomer Zimbabwe-Rhodesia
4) Hitler

 No.14921

>>14916
>1) Mugabe Kill-whiteyism
now this is an opportunity to troll them.

 No.14968

>tfw it took over 90 minutes just to load up HoI IV
I know my computer ain't that great, but goddamn…

 No.14988

>>14968
>tfw 2go of RAM
no idea how it can even take that long,is your HDD litterally dying,97% fragmented or something ?

 No.14993

>>14968
Just play Hoi2 DH or Hoi3 at that point man, played that shit on old thinkpads.

 No.14996

>>14921

mugabeism done right sounds actually pretty based
can i just recruit warlords and pirates?

 No.14997

>>14228

it could be

 No.15002

>>14823
To be fair the original website for TWR was already ultralib, it’s unavoidable that the fuckers who make the mod are just as jingoistic and egotistical in their liberalism.

 No.15013

I'm starting to think that fiction mods are far more interesting than alt-his ones, and this applies to narratives in general.

 No.15020

>>14988
Funny thing, I don't know how, but changing from borderless fullscreen to just simply, fullscreen and changing the renderer from Directx11 to OpenGL reduced it from 90 to 40, still fucking terrible, but that's besides the point

That said, the game does run fine, just for some reason it really likes to take its time to load up


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