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 No.3291[Last 50 Posts]

I'm making this thread here, because the other boards are practically dead. If a mod chooses to move it to /hobby/, that's cool, I just wanted some exposure on /leftypol/.

As you might now, chess played a large role in the Soviet Union. They outright dominated the game for decades and it was commonly played ever since the inception of the union.

I think chess does possess the potential to develop and train the strategic thinking skills of players, if they abstract from the game and attempt to apply it to the real world.

But it's also a fun game. Because of that I made a /leftypol/ club on chess.com, which is a great website with a nice UI and plenty of resources to learn and improve at chess. I've been using it for months now and got far better at chess and I even do the puzzles on it for fun every day. The way the website is designed makes learning chess and improving really, really easy. Making an account is free and would be quick. I know this sounded like an ad, lol.

So, I'm inviting you comrades to start learning chess or improve whatever skill level you are at and join the /leftypol/ chess club. We could play against each other. Perhaps even organize tournaments. I think it would be really cool if we could get something like this going and make it the community wide hobby. If only 3 people join that would be good enough honestly.

[b]Link[/b]
https://www.chess.com/club/leftypol

 No.3292

definitely belongs to hobby, never been that good at it, but really would like to get into it.

 No.3293

>>3292
Yeah, I can recommend the site for that. They have chronologically ordered lessons with videos and related tests to make you apply what you've just watched. They also give you statistical feedback to everything. I'm currently at 'Winning with tactics'.

 No.3294

File: 1608527929977.jpg (614.8 KB, 1137x1101, FloorGoban.jpg)

Oh you mean go for dumb people? :^)

but really chess is pretty fun

 No.3295

File: 1608527930152.png (24.3 KB, 602x508, img.png)

I think memorization board games like chess and go are a total waste of time. AI made it completely meaningless.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/27/20985260/ai-go-alphago-lee-se-dol-retired-deepmind-defeat

 No.3296

>>3291
>I think chess does possess the potential to develop and train the strategic thinking skills of players
Chess was a big meme for decades in computer science, but what has come out of that aside from programs that are good at Chess? There was a lot speculation that coming up with programs that are good at Chess would somehow help with coming up with programs that are good at solving other problems. But can you give a single example for that? (In the USSR Mikhail Botvinnik shilled for that real-world connection and had nothing to show in the end.)
>>3294
People who are relly good at Chess who start playing Go are much better at it right from the start than other noobs for some reason, even though in terms of programming a player it's extremely different from Chess.
>>3295
Do bikes and cars make running competitions meaningless? Besides, there is the issue that some AIs are basically a black box even to the programmer, so that it's a mystery to explain how it makes its decisions. (At least for picture classification there is an approach that generates a heatmap picture that tells you which pixels in the original were regarded by the AI as strongly supporting the classification it chose in the end. For example, a picture with a train might show that the AI heavily relied on the rails and not the actual train to make the right call.)

 No.3297

>>3296
>But can you give a single example for that?
They are programs for solving chess solely. Human beings can abstract and generalize.

 No.3298

how do I know whether I'm too retarded for chess? every time I try to learn I don't see any improvement and 99% of my moves are just blunders.

 No.3299

>>3298
in my university i had a chess trainer or however you call it. it is another way to learn to play chess

 No.3300

>>3297
Of course I didn't mean to poopoo on Chess programs for only being able to play Chess. That's not my criterion for judging the Computer-Chess hype as mistaken. The criterion is that the humans tackling Computer-Chess issues haven't learned insights transferable to other domains like economic planning. Botvinnik wrote a confused book where he repeatedly chanted that they were strong similarities between these topics, but it was just vague gestures. I suspect he wanted resources because of his interest as a Chess nerd. You know what would have been a killer argument? Coming up with rules for translating a scheduling problem into a Chess puzzle, so that a good player solving it has something that can be easily translated back to get a solution in the real world. But no translation recipe for something like that has been found.

 No.3301

>>3300
Hm, yeah you have a point. How much does being good at chess translate to understanding real life battle strategies better though?

 No.3302

>>3294
I fucking love go. I wish I had time to play it. I mostly just do tsumego on my phone when I have a few free minutes.

I suggest everyone try it out. It's more complex and, I think, a much more interesting game than chess. The best place for English speaking beginners is OGS. It even has a tutorial teaching you the basics and a bunch of puzzles to learn. It's easiest to start on a 9x9 board, but you can do 13x13 or just start on the full 19x19 board if you want.

Here are some links for anyone interested:
This a western server good for beginners. It's in a browser so it's convenient.
https://online-go.com/

This is a Japanese server and it requires a client download.
https://pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet

This is a Chinese server and it also requires a client download. I think one of the download links on the site includes a bunch of bloat or something. I use it the most, but the client is in Chinese and kind of hard to navigate.
https://www.foxwq.com/

This is the Korean server. Yet another client you have to download.
http://www.tygembaduk.com/

The Korean and Chinese servers have the most people. Chinese and Korean servers are also known for having a more aggressive and fast play style in general. I believe all the servers have phone apps, but they are pretty buggy in my experience.

 No.3303

I will move this thread later today to /games/ (which includes the discussion of all types of games not only video games).
I think I will add the link to the /leftypol/ sticky if the rest of the mod team is OK with it.

 No.3304

>>3301
Not him, but I think Chess can teach you a good number "lessons" generally applicable to real life.

How to think ahead, to make moves in anticipation for something much further down the road, to form your plans around what the enemy is doing or what you predict they're trying to do, to "think several moves ahead" based on cause and effect actions and reactions, to not get tunnel vision and focus entirely on one piece or area, but to consider the whole board, to alter your strategy to a changing situation, etc.

 No.3305

>>3304
I don't think people will generally learn these skill from playing chess, at least not to any great degree. Rather, I think, people with these skills are drawn towards these types of games.

 No.3306

>>3303
> I will add the link to the /leftypol/ sticky if the rest of the mod team is OK with it.
That would be really cool, thanks. I‘d love to do tournaments among users.

 No.3307

>>3302
>This is a Japanese server and it requires a client download.
>https://pandanet-igs.com/communities/pandanet
The android client is quite good
Also recommend crazystone

 No.3308

>>3305
These are skills you have to learn to get any good at these games.

 No.3311

>>3291
Chess and war are completely different. For instance, a war is never one vs one. There is always multiple games going on, with a lot of different group of interests. There will be infighting in every camp, there will be traitors and sabotage.

 No.3314

Chess is TRASH.

1. A lot of it is memorization. If you don't memorize the 20 different openings and standard counters you are automatically at a disadvantage. Don't give me that shit about "figuring it out yourself" it is mandatory to memorize this crap if you want to be even AVERAGE, let alone actually good at the game.

2. White's first turn advantage is retarded and the fact that no one can think of a way to balance the game after centuries is stupid.

3. It has literally zero relevance to strategy, tactics, and war. Its reputation as a trainer of generals and smart men is completely unearned and undeserved.

FUCK CHESS.

 No.3318

>>3314
That's why there's Fischer random chess. It's much more fun than regular chess imo.

It generally trains you in confrontations to rely on strategy instead of deception (like Poker), which is a good skill to have for any leftist.

 No.3320

>>3301
I strongly doubt that there is much of such an effect. Chess is too removed from reality, and this distance doesn't just come from abstraction, Chess is just weird. The terrain is flat and without any features, the rules of movement on this flat surface are bizarre, you can only move one of your units during your turn, and you kill by touching each other. I believe it makes more sense to play the war games of the 19th century Prussian army or a modern mutation of that.

>>3314
1. I agree with >>3318 on that. Bobby Fischer came up with a variant where you get a randomized starting configuration (same for both players).
2. There is a general method for balancing games that have a first-turn advantage: After the first player moves, the second player can decide to switch places with the first player or continue playing like normally. Try both 1 and 2 together and see if you like it.
3. I'm 99.9 % with you on that point.

 No.3321

>>3314
I don't know much about war or chess, but Mao made comparisons between go(weiqi/weichi) and encirclement in On Protracted War. I've heard people say he and his generals played a lot of go, but I haven't actually seen a source on that.

If any games are helpful it would be some kind of war games modeled on the real thing.

 No.5959

>>3314
All true but it's still fun to play

 No.5960

>>3291
>chess.com
>not the superior and open-source lichess.org

 No.5961

>>5960
Cool, thanks for letting me know about this.

 No.5965

>>3318
Deception is handy tbh.

 No.5966

>>3302

Bro i tried learning go today and i played a game online with a 5x5 board.

I lost by 36 points with territory scoring. How tf does that work? I’m so confused on the scoring, I had about as many pieces.

Played on here fyi: https://www.cosumi.net/en/

 No.5977

>>5966
Go scoring is the territory you have surrounded with your stones + captures, iirc depending on the scoring system (Japanese or Chinese) adding unnecessary stones inside your own territory will actually lower your score

 No.5980

>>5977

God I cant figure out this territory scoring. It’s either a retarded system or I’m retarded, but I’m frustrated so I’m going to say territory scoring is retarded. Why can’t I just play old go rules online with just the pieces?

I have a 5x5 matrix with 25 vertices and yet somehow I lose by 36 points. I thought the max would be 25 since its all the freaking territory. Then on top of that it looks like I captured some territory and the stupid AI just marks all my pieces as dead and I lose the game. Why does this game have such annoying rules?

 No.5982

>>5980
lmao how can you lose by 36 points on a 5x5 board, is it giving a retarded amount of komi to white? Can you post a screenshot? I'm curious.

 No.5985

>>3314
>2. White's first turn advantage is retarded and the fact that no one can think of a way to balance the game after centuries is stupid.

You're supposed to play 2+ rounds dummkopf.

 No.5986

>>5985
Also at amateur level it doesn't really matter. I actually prefer playing as black since you are the one that dictates the opening

 No.5992

>>5982

I have no idea what the ai is doing to calculate the score. It’s saying I lost by 25 points on this game, how come I have territory at the top wtf?

https://www.cosumi.net/en/replay/?b=You&w=COSUMI&k=0&r=w25&bs=5&gr=bdccdbdcbbbcddcdcbabceadecbeaadeacebeaedtttt&ds=aaeabbcbdbacec&bm=acc

 No.5993

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>>5992

update this game is retarded. There is no clear way to determine whose territory is what it seems arbitrary as fuck. Someone explain to me how "neutral" territory is even determined and why it didn't consider my pieces to surround the entire left side.

 No.5998

>>5993
Maybe you should actually read the rules?

 No.6002

>>5993
you can't just draw a line down the board and claim one side lol

 No.6004

>>5993
You lost by more than that
Black can't make life

 No.6009

>>5993
you should learn about alive and dead groups: https://www.learn-go.net/

 No.6010

>>6009
to expand you have no space for eyes both of your groups are incredibly dead

 No.6011

>>5993
you tried to play connect four lmaooo 🤣

 No.6027

>>3314
>>3321
Honestly it sounds like a correlation = causation fallacy. Smarter people perform better in aspects of strategy, so it makes sense that a genius on the battlefield would have problem solving skills that transfer over into other aspects of life. I bet great war generals would have been better at, say, magic the gathering than average joe.

 No.6034

>>3321
I think that's just some cool Chinese aesthetic - Go has also been used by the Chinese to describe their Maritime policies in SEA. I wouldn't look too much into it.

 No.6055

https://www.mdpi.com/2409-9287/5/4/37/htm
Go not chess but may as well keep this thread active and bumped

 No.6076

>>6055
Cool article, thanks for the poast!

 No.6079

Why are Gofags so incredibly insecure about Chess?

 No.7048


 No.7205

>>3291


Oldish post, but I just Dl Alexander Kotov and Mikhail Yudovich's "Soviet School of Chess", its from 1961 so its a bit dated but it goes through all of the Soviet Grand masters and a lot of material. I'm just working through the first games from earlier Tsarizt era players, so they're building more of the national history for how the bolshevik culture changed the game. The American publisher had to preface it with a mccarthyite set of smears on " Communist propaganda", all of it easily refutable, and kind of funny in a quaint sort of cliche manner. I just learned chess notation, so i'm getting back into the swing of things, but I would like to play one of these days with your group. I could care less about AI programming, the games flaws, or whether it is a game for master tacticians, it's fun, I miss playing it with friends at cafes, and It's one line of strategic thought amongst many, its general lessons are clearly applicable to politics and class struggle, and obviously playing it does not make one a Vo Nguyen Giap. Its still fun though!!!groucho_marxismGroucho Marxism

 No.7232

Is the group at chess.com still alive, what with the split and all? I'm a nooboid looking to get into the game in a somewhat more serious fashion and chess.com seems to be a good starting point.

>>7205
Looks like a fascinating book catch with a hilarious (and historically interesting) preface, gz. However, you surely mean 'could not care less'. :^)

 No.7531

>>3298
you just need to pay attention to what youre doing wrong. think in terms of what each of their pieces can do at any time and what your pieces can do at any time, and have a few contingency plans for each possible move of theirs. be aggressive but dont stick to one overall strategy

 No.7768


 No.8165

>>3296
Computers aren't capable of abstract or conceptual thought. Figuring out how to make AI that can play chess proficiently is probably good excercise in problem solving, but is obviously going to run into diminishing returns.

 No.8231

Became interested in Chess recently but i'm still absolute shit. Been trying to work my way through this book, figured I'd upload it for any anons who may want to check it out.

 No.8253

File: 1616028398731.jpg (149.25 KB, 400x400, Petrov.jpg)

>>8231
Do you have an opening you like yet?soviet_unionSoviet Union

 No.8289

Was there ever smth like a /leftypol/ chess tournament?

 No.8298

>>5960
based post anon
i made a chess.com account just to join OP's club, but yeah this should be on lichess

 No.8299

>>8298
lichess has better puzzles tbh

 No.8300

I haven't played chess in ages and I only ever learned how to move the pieces but I would gladly join you guys, that'd be useful for learning too

 No.8302

File: 1616092474747.jpg (63.04 KB, 380x380, middle-puzzle-1.jpg)

>>8300
Puzzles are the way to go
White to move

 No.8304

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 No.8311

>>8304
Blacks last move was stalemate
Kd8d7 Kb7a8
Kd7c8 stalemate

 No.8312

>>8311
puzzle says "black moved last" – i swear there's a valid solution to this puzzle that meets that requirement, even if it seems impossible at first

 No.8313

>>8312
lame gay and stupid

 No.8314

>>8313
sry 2 hear ur inability to engage in retrograde analysis makes u feel so insecure that u invoke homosexuality as an insult directed at based logic puzzles, anon

 No.8322

>>8302
Ng5f7+ Kh7
Nf3g5#

 No.8323

August 6. 1972 World Chess Championship
USSR vs USA
This game was a dramatic #win# for Spassky, his first since games 1 and 2. As in game 7, Fischer essayed his favorite Poisoned Pawn Variation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoned_Pawn_Variation); Spassky surprised him with the startling 14.Nb1 (given !! by many annotators at the time), retreating the knight to its starting position.
Although later analysis showed that the move was only sufficient for equality if Black responded correctly, Fischer did not. If 15…Ne7!? by Black then 16.N1d2!? and the game is unclear (Gipslis). After inferior defense by Fischer, Spassky trapped Fischer's queen and handed him his only defeat ever as Black in the Poisoned Pawn.

1.e4 c5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4 cxd4
4.Nxd4 Nf6
5.Nc3 a6
6.Bg5 e6
7.f4 Qb6
8.Qd2 Qxb2
9.Nb3 Qa3
10.Bxf6 gxf6
11.Be2 h5
12.0-0 Nc6
13.Kh1 Bd7
14.Nb1!! Qb4
15.Qe3 d5
16.exd5 Ne7
17.c4 Nf5
18.Qd3 h4
19.Bg4 Nd6
20.N1d2 f5
21.a3 Qb6
22.c5 Qb5
23.Qc3 fxg4
24.a4 h3
25.axb5 hxg2+
26.Kxg2 Rh3
27.Qf6 Nf5
28.c6 Bc8
29.dxe6 fxe6
30.Rfe1 Be7
31.Rxe6 resignsoviet_unionSoviet Union

 No.8474


 No.8475

In case anyone is still checking on this thread, I'd like to have you actively play matches with each other. Let's get this club going! Currently I have exams until the 8th of April, but I will join you then.

 No.8477

>>8475
I'd join but I only play on lichess.

 No.8479

>>8477
Stop being a cunt

 No.8560

>>8477
>>8479
I‘m sorry. I had too much caffeine that day and it put me on the EDGE.

 No.8579

>>8299
lichess has better everything

 No.8580


 No.8582

>>8580
Nice how does thjs work?

 No.9163


 No.9164

>>9163
Neat article, thanks anon.

 No.9168

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>>9163
this is another cool position engines won't understand. Stockfish will evaluate it at -6 despite being an obvious draw to a human that realizes that black has no way of making progress.

https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/q7/8/2p5/3p2pp/6pk/4B1p1/6P1/7K_w_-_-_0_1#0

 No.9169

>>9168
I suck at chess and I realized it :D

 No.9786

>>9169
Deutscher detektiert

 No.10405


 No.10494

>>10405
cool project

 No.10548

>>9168
Can't Queen just A1+, bishop has to block G1, Queen sac and the d and c pawns can progress forward?

 No.10549

>>10548
Never mind, the pawns won't be able to reach no?

 No.10551

File: 1625074160809.png (29.28 KB, 680x682, ClipboardImage.png)

>>10548
after you sack the black king is stuck and it's effectively out of the game and the white king is in the square so he can reach before they promote

 No.10552

>>10548
btw if you click on the lichess link you can try to play it out :)
https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/q7/8/2p5/3p2pp/6pk/4B1p1/6P1/7K_w_-_-_0_1#0

 No.12460

https://www.chessprogramming.org/Kaissa
>With me they communicated, as with an alien. Data on the size of my rent have been apprehended as straight propaganda.

 No.12464

>>>/siberia/149113
a chess game in process for anyone interested

 No.12481

>>12464
How do I play

 No.12494

>>12481
Find the last move (like White Queen to D5) and reply for the other team whose move it is.

 No.13382

File: 1631734894428-0.jpg (218.08 KB, 1280x803, chess-with-comrades.jpg)

File: 1631734894428-1.png (42.68 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

Let's play some chess, my fellow siberians.

https://fen2png.com/api/?fen=


rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

 No.13383

DATAMINING LINK

DO NOT CLICK

 No.13384

File: 1631736963181.png (44.04 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13382
rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1

 No.13385

File: 1631738164092.png (192.85 KB, 348x342, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13383
>DATAMINING LINK
Wtf are you talking about anon?

 No.13386


 No.13387

File: 1631738978552.png (44.7 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13386
>e5
rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

 No.13388

File: 1631739247045.png (45.58 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13387
rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/4P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 1

 No.13389

File: 1631739560830.png (1.09 MB, 1522x1100, 14 lichess.png)


 No.13390

>>13388
horse c6
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/2n5/4p3/4P3/5N2/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKB1R w - - 2 3

 No.13391

>>13390
Idk how to use fen, im not a boomer

 No.13392

File: 1631740343593.png (46.31 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13390
♕e2
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/2n5/4p3/4P3/5N2/PPPPQPPP/RNB1KB1R b - - 2 3

 No.13393

File: 1631740760749.jpg (213.66 KB, 3500x2322, 812937469.jpg)

>>13391
>she doesn't know how to use fen

 No.13394

>>13392
horse d4

 No.13395

File: 1631741047284.png (46.48 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13394
>horse d4

 No.13396

>>13395
fen:
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/3nP3/5N2/PPPPQPPP/RNB1KB1R w - - 2 3

 No.13397

>>13393
OK, I found a mobile friendly fen editor. I was trying to use lichess but the app is garbage
https://shaack.com/projekte/cm-fen-editor/

 No.13398

File: 1631741988296.png (44.97 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13395
♘xd4
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/3NP3/8/PPPPQPPP/RNB1KB1R b - - 0 3

 No.13399

>>13398
PxNd4
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/8/3pP3/8/PPPPQPPP/RNB1KB1R b - - 0 1

 No.13400

File: 1631742218627.mp4 (1.1 MB, 414x282, superior beings.mp4)


 No.13401

you motherfucker you're white

 No.13402

>>13401
I messed up the notation

 No.13403

>>13402
and the reason for that is that you fucked up the notation
the correct notation for PxNd4 is:
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/8/3pP3/8/PPPPQPPP/RNB1KB1R w - - 0 1

 No.13404

>>13403
I surrender, someone else take the wheel. Cant continue on mobile

 No.13405

File: 1631743722245.jpg (38.2 KB, 379x379, raspberry.jpg)

/ppppbppp/PPPPPPPP/

 No.13406

File: 1631743888364.png (43.28 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13404
fair enough.

the current state is
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/8/3pP3/8/PPPPQPPP/RNB1KB1R w - - 0 1

 No.13407

File: 1631744168858.png (44.42 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

b3
r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/8/3pP3/1P6/P1PPQPPP/RNB1KB1R b - - 0 1

 No.13408

bump

 No.13409

>>13407
White looks like it's aiming for bishop to b2 here

 No.13410

>>13401
reported for idpol

 No.13411


 No.13412


 No.13413

File: 1631877334795.jpg (146.97 KB, 1080x1009, IMG_20210917_131327.jpg)

>>13407
Bc5
r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/8/2b5/3pP3/1P6/P1PPQPPP/RNB1KB1R

Had to look through the thread to see how the most recent positions made sense. Black fucked up.

 No.13414

File: 1631882023215.png (45.23 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13413
♗b2
r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/8/2b5/3pP3/1P6/PBPPQPPP/RN2KB1R b - - 1 1

 No.13415


 No.13416

File: 1631884999453.png (45.3 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13415
♕c4
r1bqk2r/ppppnppp/8/2b5/2QpP3/1P6/PBPP1PPP/RN2KB1R b - - 2 1

 No.13417

>>13416
(pawn) d6

 No.13418

>>150085
that's illegal

 No.13419

>>13418
ah right, Queen to d5

 No.13420

>>13417
You dumb faggot, should have pushed it up 2 spaces to fork the Queen and Pawn, and potentially open the file for your Queen.
Dumb bitch God damn it

 No.13421

>>13420
you can't play chess for shit

 No.13422

Anyone gonna move or…?

 No.13423

>>13422
Suspense is an important tactical element of chess.

 No.13424


 No.13425

So any decisions?

 No.13426

I can't play chess but I'll try

 No.13427

>>13426
>drops to page 5
Oh FFS someone make a move so I can make a move.

 No.13428

>>13427
Am I white?
If so, Bxd4

 No.13429

>>13428
No I am, I made my move >>13419 and am waiting for black

 No.13430


 No.13431


 No.13432


 No.13433

>>13432
nice, danks

 No.13434

File: 1632267594027.jpg (51.23 KB, 600x437, anglican chess.jpg)


 No.13435

>>13434
I need more Chess humor pls

 No.13436

>>13393
I can use fen but I'm too lazy to do so here.

 No.13437

>>13435
Heres a classic Soviet joke
>In a park people come across a man playing chess against a dog. They are astonished and say: "What a clever dog!" But the man protests: "No, no, he isn't that clever. I'm leading by three games to one!"

 No.13438

>>13437
Not one I'm familiar with TBH, but pretty good. It's classic Soviet humor and not the fake shit that Reagan got told to belt out.

 No.13439

MOOOOOOVE!

 No.13440

>>13417
Again: White Queen to D5

 No.13441

>>13440
Again: knight to d5

 No.13442

>>13441
>Again:
Not again, but damn I missed that, I should have moved queen to B5.

Anyhow, Pawn to D5

 No.13443

>>13442
Thats what I meant by NxQ, knight takes queen
uygha

Qd7

 No.13444

>>13443
Not d7
Qe7 check

 No.13445

>>13443
>NxQ
Ooooooh, FFS I don't use online chess lingo much, usually play in person. Never heard tournaments (I've seen) use such abbreviations

>>13444
Bishop to 2E

 No.13446

>>13445
npnp, I learned chess notation when I was very young, its kinda burnt into my mind

Castle short O-O

 No.13447

>>13446
Yeah I learned in Russian so English terms and stuff are kinda unfamiliar sometimes
>Castle short O-O
? You mean castling?

 No.13448

>>13447
Yeah castle kingside

 No.13449

>>13448
Current board

 No.13450

File: 1632706922302.png (45.3 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13449
What Happened to the Pawn and Bishop at the center?! I've been playing off pic related when I moved my (late) Queen.

 No.13451

anyone gonna move?

 No.13452

>>13451
There is confusion about piece placement, see >>13449
>>13450

 No.13453

>>13452
Whoever was white needs to learn how to play before posting again, there should be 0 confusion as to piece placement

 No.13454


 No.13455

>>13453
Fuck off.
1) it's not 1 person that's playing the boards, it's several people coming in and out
2) >>13450 is the placement of the pieces.
Following that Quite Queen went to D5, Black Knight went to D5, taking the Queen, and White Pawn took Black Knight at D5.

>>13449
has the board flipped, so it looks inverted because over the entire thread people played on the board that had White at the top of the pic and Black at the bottom.

 No.13456

>>13449
White Pawn to C3

 No.13457

up

 No.13458

File: 1632942500837.png (833.61 KB, 1280x720, ClipboardImage.png)

Pawns

 No.13459

File: 1633119917286.png (414.61 KB, 640x360, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13458
Rooks

 No.13460

>>13382
>Photo
Lenin, Gorky and Alexander Bogdanov playing chess; proof that all communists should try to learn it.

FYI: Gorky is the one at the side (moustache), Bogdanov is the one facing Lenin.

 No.13461

File: 1633147584476.png (431.64 KB, 1400x840, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.13462

>>13461
>page 7
suka blyat

 No.13463

File: 1633384787061.mp4 (2.43 MB, 1280x720, Chess club.mp4)


 No.13464

>>13463
>Todd Howard
God time flies.

 No.13465

>>13464
Todd Howard lived too long and saw himself become a villain

 No.13466

>>13465
>this

 No.13467

Online chess is inferior to chess by mail

 No.13468

>>13466
This song is fuckin' good

 No.13469

File: 1634720859097.png (41.32 KB, 456x456, ClipboardImage.png)

>>13456
r1b2rk1/ppppqppp/8/2bP4/3p4/1PP5/PB1PBPPP/RN2K2R b - - 0 1

anyone gonna move?

 No.13470

>>13469
>anyone gonna move?
did you?

 No.13471

>>13470
nah cuz I played 4 white b4

 No.13472

>>13471
I mean it's Black's move

 No.13473

>>13472

>>13456 moved for white

 No.13474

>>13473
Yes, that's my point, that's MY move from September

 No.15938

File: 1646369538684.png (3.88 MB, 2560x1707, ClipboardImage.png)

An anon in Siberia asked for a guide to introductory chess that wasn't a 300 page bore of nebulous theory. I learned chess as a kid from a small but succinct book, The Kid's Book of Chess by Harvey Kidder, Illustrations by Kimberly Bulcken Root, Workman Publishing, New York.

Don't let the name "Kids book" fool you, it's a great introduction to Chess. After that you just have to play to practice to reach some kind of level and only THEN do you read up on strategems used by pros, because typically you need to have experience of the basics first, unless you're a genius wunderkind like one of my twice-removed cousins.

 No.16049

>>3314
1. You can learn two to three openings and be good. Hell, just play a king's Indian and you have one opening you can play against pretty much everything, you don't have to memorize that many lines and although it's more difficult to play the middle game compared to some other openings it's still playable for a beginner. You just need to develop a simple and solid repertoire. Once you gain some experience it's also not that difficult to learn more complicated openings
2. Balance is overrated imo
3. I think there are a few lessons you can get out of it. Like when you're winning in chess you're supposed to make equal trades and place safe, while if you're losing more risky and complicated play is better, this reflects real war logic. A battle between 100 vs 108 can go many ways, a battle between 8 and 18 is already over. These kinds of lessons become a lot more clear if they're part of your practical lived experience than what I could explain in a post like this. Obviously you're not going to become a great general by playing chess a bunch, at best it will give you some minor insights, but it's a board game, monopoly isn't going to make you a millionaire either. Also there is definitely strategy and tactics involved in the game, it just has somewhat of a learning curve so you need to recognize them first

 No.16050

>>3320
>The terrain is flat and without any features
A Chinese game with common ancestor to chess (xiangqi) actually has a river through the middle of the board, although it doesn't do much

 No.16053

>>15938
>The Kid's Book of Chess by Harvey Kidder
Anyone got a pdf of this? Can't find shit on Libgen or Zlib

 No.16055

>>3314
Henlo fren might I interest you in a superior gaym → >>10657

 No.16063


 No.16066

>>16053
>kids book of chess
>by harvey kidder

What kind of hack came up with this shit? COME ON, GET BETTER WRITERS

 No.16250

>>16066
Not everything is the matrix dude.

 No.16414

>>8302
That's a retarded puzzle
Nf7+ Kh7 Ng5#
Try this one. Mate in three, white to move.

 No.16415

Also, does anyone on here play shogi?

 No.16416

>>16415
only shogi-un 2 total war

 No.17451


 No.17454

>>5960
>lichess
Chess.com is only better for having multiple pre-moves. But still a feature I wonder why Lichess refuses to add.

 No.17455

I'm into Go, myself. I can't play chess, but like watching this channel. I find it meditative. She sometimes livestreams matches vs. subscribers.

 No.17457

>>17455
Watching a porn actress clickbaiting chess. Yikes. Gimme a timestamp or something. 5 year olds playing chess at a higher level than some slut.

 No.17459


>>17457
>Watching a porn actress clickbaiting chess. Yikes.
I don't think she's a porn actress, anon. She obviously likes to dress nicely, and bring a bit of glamour to the match. If you want to see porn actresses on the internet there are loads, you don't have to watch a chess match to see them.
>Gimme a timestamp or something.
Oh I see, so you "are" interested.
>5 year olds playing chess at a higher level than some slut.
Which match was this? Must a prodigy, or sometimes adults let children win to encourage them.

 No.17602

>>17459
No timestamp. Don't care what you have to say.

 No.17623


 No.17628

>>17457
>porn actress
????

do rightoids really

 No.17632

>>17628
God, I wish I was CoomNEET gang enough to be able to see a woman and immediately think "porn actress".

 No.17656

im not the one watching a slutty yt whore that sucks at chess
youre getting awfully simpy mate

 No.17660

>>17656
moron

 No.17661

>>17660
You don't even know her rating and think that 5 year olds outperforming her is something adults do to encourage them.

 No.17910

>>17661
doofus

 No.17920

>no argument
This is the Kart thread all over again. People that know nothing of chess and of good video games acting like bigshots just because the algorithm pushes porn on them rather than the actual concepts tangibly related towards said porn

 No.17987

>>17920
You'd better not watch this one then. Someone's in the comments saying you can tell the chronology of the matches, and the player's ability, by the color of her fingernails earlier losing matches = black

 No.17989

>17987
Okay. Now are you suddenly going to make a car thread and act like an expert because it is tangibly related to porn? Nothing I said is false. 5 year olds are better chess players than her, you only watch her because you're a coomer.

 No.17990

>>17989
Well anon those old gas guzzlers do have robust engines, even tho they're thirsty lol

It's not porn! Not to me, anyway. I need to see nipples as well as face however pretty to coom

 No.17995

You're not funny. Nobody cares what you 'need'. This isn't your blog.

 No.18005

>>17995
>Nobody cares what you 'need'.
fair enough, but then don't click on the spoilered text

 No.18012

One of the best women's chess players went live while making thumbnails for her YouTube channel

 No.18013

>>18012
I dunno how anyone with any self respect could watch YTers etc who do this kind of shit

 No.18014

>>18013
You know they all hate doing it, right? Click bait is unreasonably effective.

 No.18017

>>18014
Maybe they 'hate doing it' but they still do, there's other ways to get tons of views than to go all :O and lowest common denominator.

 No.18018

>>18017
There is nothing wrong with click bait when the market demands it imo. I don't judge a book by its cover know what I mean?

 No.18019

>>18018
>>18017
Don't hate the player hate the game.

 No.18020

>>18018
If they are willing to piss all over the viewer like that and treat them like retards, then I'm not interested. But then I basically hate any YTer that consistently puts themselves in front of the camera anyways, the content should speak for itself.

 No.18022

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>>18020
I agree with you, but I understand that the algorithm favors this type of thumbnail, and if the content is good, I want the creator to get the most bang for their buck to keep creating more content.
It's a necessary evil of the market.

 No.18023

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>>18013
>I dunno how anyone with any self respect could watch YTers etc who do this kind of shit
YT is generally a trashy medium. It's not good to spend too much time on it. If you do, then your self-respect level will take a hit, true.
>>18020
But then I basically hate any YTer that consistently puts themselves in front of the camera anyways, the content should speak for itself.
Depends on the genre. Sometimes presentation in front of the camera is part of it. For example, a lot of Contrapoints' work is about personal aesthetics .

Ofc, in the case of chess, it's notoriously not about personal aesthetics. I think why non-Chess players ITT haven't taken the objections entirely seriously is because for a long time chess players were seen as badly dressed nerds, frankly.
So using sex to sell chess would have seemed unlikely.

Are glamorous or clickbaity chess players on YT damaging the game? Anons might say they can be beaten by 5 year olds, but in the videos the emphasis is on the chess moves themselves.
In particular calling one a porn actress >>17457 would seem to be overwrought. She's got an instagram but that's it, no OnlyFans, no cashapp, no venmo, no way to pay her anything. Whereas porn is just done for money.
Sexy presentation ≠hypocrisy, not always.

 No.18024

>>18023
Honestly, I think sexy presentation is at least something, better than fucking gurning and overacting in front of the camera like the video is for actual babies.

 No.18044

>18012
She's not one of the best. I don't understand why you have to lie like that. Rankings are available online for free for anyone to look at.

>18013

There's plenty of high-quality in-depth chess channels out there. It's not hard to do some directed searches, but this implies shutting off the algorithm and only look for things you want to see, rather than watch things before you know you even want them. It's hard for the coomerbrains blogposting about shitty chess players here. But don't blame the tool, make fun of the people incapable of breaking free from it.

 No.18045

>18022
They do not need more bang for their buck. The content has always been there and always been created. The content does not suddenly increase just because a millionaire makes 200% that.

 No.18046

>>18044
Alexandra Botez is, in fact, one of the best.

 No.18051

>>18044
>shitty chess players
Why don't you take your own advice?
Look up the FIDE ratings of the chess players mentioned ITT. They have perfectly respectable ratings for club players. Which is the context of the videos - they're playing in chess clubs.

 No.18053

Terrible bait. Won't even respond.

 No.18054

>>18053
likewise


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