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 No.597[View All]

We have a HoI4 thread but why not just have a Grand Strategy general thread? I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people here who play the other grand stratgy games/think hoi4 is too dumbed down shit. Plus /gsg/ on 4chan is infected with /pol/yps and I really want an alternative place to discuss the games. So what's everyone been playing? Here's the results of my recent Serbia to Yugoslavia campaign.
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 No.7834

>>7530
>its easily the worst paradox game being played rn
That's the point. The gameplay mechanics were dumbed down really bad, they are not engaging or immersive at all. This is why modders had to step in, who realized that things could work if they expand the story elements by controlling what each country can and can't do through focus trees and events. It's true that a lot of mods aren't like this, but I'm pretty sure the modding scene and the game itself would be a lot more dead by now if it weren't for Kaiserreich and the trend it started.
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 No.7835

>>7590
I would also add Cults and other such orgs like Scientology as they had done some shady stuff too during the Cold War

Plus mad science orgs and so on
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 No.7837

>>7831
This has nothing to do with the leaks tho. Calm down.
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 No.7844

>>7830
Zhdanov being a tyrant is such stupidity holy shit. The mod recently had huge backlashes from not only leftist but also far right retards as well. What’s up with that? Most of the videos shitting on Panzer and Pacifica are mostly from lolberts for some reason.
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 No.7845

>>7844
Well, Panzer was a braindead Vaushite who literally made the entire Hall tree as his autistic strawman against le ebil dankies. Meanwhile Pacifica seemed to be your average baizuo. Its deffinetly good to see them gone, as theybwere replaced from the left, at least it seems so for now.

However the autism with Zhdanov etc doesn't seem to be ideological in my opinion. Remember that Panzer was a Fallout oc writer who cited GoT as his main inspiration. Its less anti-communism and more "woah doood, what if we like make the wholesome 100 candidate secretly a tyrant?". Same with Heydrich redemption (despite it going against the very essance of the mod), Kovner cringe, Burgundy etc. Btw, the new lead devs are already in my good books, since they are going to make Burgundy into an incompetant SS failstate that can hardly succeed in the James Bond shit Himler plans.
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 No.7846

>>7844
>>7845
I was kinda annoyed by Zhdanov when I first played it but after reflection, it is a fairly funny meme and ultravisionary USSR isn't even that bad of an option for Russia, easily in the top 50%.
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 No.7860

>>7590
>>if you could give a framework and design philosophy for any new paradox/similar gsg, what would it be? can be a sequel or totally original
Cities: Skylines, but it's historical. You take a control of a city at the end of the early modern period, and have to see it through industrialisation and deindustrialisation,
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 No.7862

>>7860
Kalypso already made that game and it kinda sucked

https://store.steampowered.com/app/352550/Urban_Empire/
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 No.7869

So we finally got some leaks about the people "leading" Russia post-funni murder man in TNO and their ideologies etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ib5MjsYtg&feature=emb_title


Super events and music are fan made but the portraits and where they supposedly spawn is real.
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 No.7870

>>7869
>post taboritsky
Shit, will they extend the game into the 21st century?
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 No.7872

>>7869
<Post taboritskiy
So the official lore is that he manages to unify Russia and then dies?
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 No.7873

>>7872
Official lore, as far as I gather, is that Zhukov unifies Russia, all others are alternate timelines. Tabby path ends with Russia collapsing and him killing himself with gasoline. Originally this leads to a perma-shattering of Russia. If this leak really is true, it just means that Russia has more content after this path that isn't just permanent collapse.
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 No.7874

>>7870
Probably not, although there probably might be an event for if you reach 2000 or some shit
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 No.7875

>>7873
So you have AN ENTIRE SUBGAME after Taboritskiy?

There are 22 (!!) warlords in that video, how do they think to be able to pull it off while having to do focus trees for USSR/Germany/Usa/Japan in the next game?
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 No.7876

>>7869
I am curious as to what the deal with the Redeemed black league is
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 No.7877

>>7873
Tabby lighting himself on fire with gasoline happens when you send agents out to kill him, when he reunifies Russia he just collapses and dies when the clock reaches midnight
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 No.7881

>>7876
The Black League lore is that they were more like the Ural-League and were more about protecting people and prepping then trying to start third impact. So assuming Yazov dies in the events of Tabby taking over and the Black league "redeems" itself of his autism then maybe they basically just try to protect people that come their way (which would make more sense as well since dev's say that Tabby basically fucks russia so bad none of these warlords will be even able to theoretically project power outside of their immediate regions for decades)
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 No.7882

>>7881
Wtf can Tabby even do that's worse than over a decade of carpet bombing and bandit militaries raping and killing everyone?
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 No.7883

>>7882
He literally kills 75% of people that live in Russia in this timeline by the time he dies (He gets a special national idea that gives -75% MONTHLY REGIONAL POPULATION) With a fair few more voluntarily choosing to become indentured servants to boorman in Moscow in order to escape him.
+ The video / portraits / leaks obviously show entire sections of the country are still under the control of his schizo fanatics.
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 No.7884

So we can assume that "Alexei ll" is just another schizo LARPing as royalty like Rurik yes?
(Unless Russian team really just wanted to dab on Panzer and Pacifica since they said they would never actually let there be a sane taboritsky / Alexei outcome)
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 No.7885

>>7884
>So we can assume that "Alexei ll" is just another schizo LARPing as royalty like Rurik yes?
Probably
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 No.7891

>>7884
I mean even if he was real it doesn't exactly justify Taboritsky's path, I give reasonable odds on him being real but his path being like "I just wanted to stay gone, Russia had moved on, but how he fucked it up so bad I have to try and save people from this madness"
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 No.7892

>>7873
>no sub game for any Russian unifier to conquer Europe and fight the OFN or China (and the rest of Asia) to wreck Japan because muh canon!!!
<have post game content for literal insane people that doomed the country they rule like Heinrich and Tabo because muh memes?
What did they mean by this? This is why TWR is still better because I can invade the US as the Soviet and crush the KMT retards.
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 No.7893

>>7884
Apparently the photo is of a real person who lied about being Alexei
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 No.7894

>Sane Heydrich
Very subversive!
>Sane Tabby
Wow!
>Sane DSR
Nooooooo!!
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 No.7895

>>7894
>>Sane Tabby
>Wow!
What sane Tabby path?
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 No.7896

>>7894
DSR being some weird german Juche shit actually got dropped around the time when they disabled the second phase GCW to begin with apparently.
Current germany teams claim is there will be multiple paths depending on who ends up leading the country from SocDem to LibSoc to classic-tankie to NatBol.
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 No.7899

How come a two term George Wallace dosen't result in the Yockey presidency in 1972? (Assuming wallace goes fully right-wing in every option that boosts yock popularity)
Like if we assume Wallace has radicalised the NPP to the degree where they go completely mask off implement nationwide jim crow and deploy federal troops to every state capital or whatever and basically make America a unitary state then why the fuck would they not just voot for yockey as his successor?
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 No.7900

>>7896
Yeah the idea was taking "what if a bunch of student radicals only understood communism through the lense of naziism". It was actually kinda interesting, but as you said got canned.
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 No.7902

>>7899
The idea of both Hall and Yockey is that they only get into power because their opponents have failed so much. NPP-C and NPP-FR are their more moderate compatriots and if they are successful, there's no reason for them to radicalise outwards.
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 No.7907

>>7896
>weird german Juche shit
Since they commit self-genocide it is more comparable to the ideology of "anti-Japaneseism" which was followed by some schizo self-hating Japanese leftists such as the East Asia Anti-Japan Armed Front.
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 No.7910

>>7907
Iirc in TNO 2 Anti-Japaneseism is meant to be there too.
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 No.7911

>>7869
Does anyone have a link to the original leak or did it get deleted?
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 No.7914

>>7910
The last Chinese focus kinda implies a fascist China rising up against Japan.
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 No.7926

We need an alt history cold war mod set in a world where the USSR wins in Europe but Japan wins in the pacific. The post war will be proxy (and direct) conflict between USSR and Japan with giant robots and psychic teenagers. No nukes so we can have full industrial wwiii.
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 No.7933

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It seems that the libtard legacy of PinkPanzer is fading away
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 No.7934

>>7933
OK, this is epic
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 No.7935

>>7933
So they're getting more and more based?
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 No.7936

>>7935
It looks like TNO2 won't be a liberal wishlist anymore, now that canon is gone
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 No.7937

>>7936
Bold of you guys to assume this means socialism is going to be doing better rather than that the devs are now supporting more authdems and 'moderate fascists'.

Remember this post >7830
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 No.7938

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 No.7939

>>7876
>>7881
In Omsk there are "Redemptionary Brigades" which are basically penal battalions for criminals and enemies of the Black League where they are given a second chance to redeem themselves and possibly join the actual Black League. So they are probably the redemptionary brigadiers who formed a new Black League after the original one was crushed.
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 No.7940

>>7937
On the plus side, it appears the DSR won't be depicted as the German Pol-Potists that they were going to be

https://www.reddit.com/r/dsrfunny/comments/lobsof/uh_oh/
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 No.7941

>>7940
a shame, it was a cool idea with very shit execution
hopefully they keep the idea of trying to rediscover what it means to be communist after years of repression of any kind of class consciousness or communist thought rather than just turn them into bread-and-butter socialists
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 No.7942

I can really see Panzer's Vaushism and Horseshoe theory brain in action in the way the current Gus-Hall / Francis-Parker-Yockey events are shown in game.

A Communist being democratically elected in the face of an extremely reactionary and unpopular predecessor (Im pretty sure that Hall / Yockey can basically only win if Goldwater is pres) and doing the RADICAL move of
- Putting in place a civil rights act. (All through legislative means with the ability for others to critique and voot against the bill)
- Exposing the crimes of the FBI and CIA and beginning the dissolution of the organisations through legal and legislative means.

Is treated as just as much of a disaster for america as…

>A raving Schizo NeoNazi True believer getting elected and immediately trying to abolish the first amendment and sending death squads to kill civil rights protesters and rig voots in his favour.

these two things in any rational mind would not be treated the same.
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 No.7943

>>7942
but don't you know all extremism is bad anon?
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 No.7944

>>7942
How else would you keep redditors and 4channers from sperging out?
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 No.7946

>>7944
'Ate Reddit, 'ate 4chan, don't give a fuck if they sperg out, simple as
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 No.7958

>>7933
>no-canon
>me forming the Federation from Star Trek with Zhdanov is possible
Based
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 No.7960

>>7942
The sorry excuse for that is "oh well Hall is just a bad guy like Stalin who abused the situation to get himself into power under nice promises and then showed his face of just being a power hungry homophobe".

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