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 No.14436

What do you think of the ending to Watchmen?
Do you agree with Ozymandias?

 No.14437

floppa

 No.14438

You should not agree that any of the characters where right, one of the themes of watchmen is how awful and wrongful superheroing will be facing real world ethical dilemmas.

 No.14448

Of course not, he should’ve helped the soviets.

 No.14451

>>14438
Sure, obviously it should have never got to that point.
But given the situation they are in by the ending, who would you agree with more?

And really the ending still has merit in that it highlights different ideologies, e.g. utilitarianism. Do you believe socialism should not be utilitarian?

 No.14452

>>14436
>Do you agree with Ozymandias?
No. Ozymandias had the ability to avert nuclear war by using all that money to fund revolutionaries. The real threat is not the nukes but the societies that wield them. Replacing those with DotP solves that problem and a lot of the other ones that come up in the story. If he could keep what he did in the comic a secret, he could easily keep this a secret.

 No.14453

>>14436
I think comic books are mad gay

 No.14457

>>14451
That is something I agree with, the different character could be seen to represent different ethical school, Rorschach as deontology and Ozymandias as utilitarianism but until I read Eugene Kamenka's *Marxism and Ethics* I do not feel like having an opinion and even now I do not feel like sympathizing with any of the characters.

 No.14458

>>14452
>Ozymandias had the ability to avert nuclear war by using all that money to fund revolutionaries
Revolutionaries where? For which conflict?
Any country could acquire nuclear weapons, or stand opposed to a revolution / socialism. Having a revolution in America needn't be the end-all.
Ozymandias' plan was one that unites the entire world in fear of another world. Funding revolutions wouldn't unite the whole world.

 No.14459

Ozymandias is dumb. He should’ve let posadism happen and Manhattan would create quantum communism.

 No.14462

>>14458
>Revolutionaries where?
Everywhere.
>For which conflict?
International class struggle.
>Funding revolutions wouldn't unite the whole world.
It would eventually.

 No.14491

>>14462
This just sounds like idealistic nonsense. How many centuries are we talking before there are successful worldwide revolutions.

 No.14494

Coronavirus didn’t unite people for shit so no

 No.14495

>>14491
Strange, because that’s what most communist writers have supported as the best solution. Would you call Marx and idealist? Because at his time revolutions were happening left and right in Europe, thanks to the terrible working conditions of late 19th century Europe.

 No.14498

>>14495
Obviously it's the best solution, but it's not the most realistic - or likely to occur - solution. Hence idealist.
We are 200 years after Marx's birth, thinking exactly as he did sounds short-sighted and dishonest.
There is no worldwide appetite for revolution. How can conditions change to spark the revolution - we are in a 3rd global recession in just over 20 years, and in a pandemic. If there is no successful revolution in eve one country now, how will it happen worldwide?

 No.14566

I agree with the Comedian, the world is one big joke.united_farm_workersUnited Farm Workers

 No.14567

>>14494
True, but unlike "cosmic squid from space", coronavirus can not be made into The Other. This is why it failed in uniting humanity

 No.14569

>>14567
It got a lot of people to hate the Chinese.united_farm_workersUnited Farm Workers


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