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 No.18223

Anyone willing to drop a red pill on the Naboo Crisis, the Clone War, the imperialist policy of the Galactic Republic, and the how/why regarding Emperor Sheev Palpatine’s rise to power and the political economy of his Galactic Empire?

 No.18224

>Naboo Crisis
The protocols of elders of the trade federation.pdf
>the Clone War
Capitalist republic commits galactic repression in its expansion leading to rebellion in the form of the confederacy. Confederacy was also supported by planets locked in a form of slave society due to mercantile / bougie influences in the republic seeking to outlaw slavery
>the imperialist policy of the Galactic Republic
Planets were either invaded or forced to join its political system.
>and the how/why regarding Emperor Sheev Palpatine’s rise to power and the political economy of his Galactic Empire?
Depending on whether you think the GE is more like Rome or Nazi germany it's economy would be logically different.
If its more like Rome its basically modern China were the state 'owns' all the land but 'rents' it out to people to do what they want with the stipulation that they will have said land revoked if they act against social-interests.
If Nazis then fascist capitalismeurekaEureka

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 No.18226

>>18223
>Naboo Crisis
Naboo had a big reserve of plasma (basically oil since the Star Wars galaxy has incredibly efficient energy conversion and transportation rates, so they could monopolize it and send it anywhere) so the Trade Federation wanted to control their resources to expand their industrial trade empire, as like 1000 years prior to the movie the Galactic Republic instituted a law that corporations that developed exclusively in the Outer Rim (basically the Star Wars 3rd world) would be tax-exempt in an effort to try and build up economic power. By the time of Episode I, there is a lot of tension between the inner-core companies (which would go on to form the backbone for the Grand Army of the Republic's production) and these corporations which developed themselves in the Outer Rim (which would form the backbone of the Confederacy of Independent Systems). So the Naboo Crisis was what would become the CIS doing preemptive moves to try and seize resources to fuel their war machine when the time comes.
>the Clone War
See above, it was a large-scale war fueled mostly by the conflicting interests of two different flavors of corporate interests slugging it out for what interests would reign supreme. The aforementioned law that made outer rim companies tax-exempt was repealed, largely from the political sway of the core world companies and done against the whims of most of the outer rim worlds, who were drastically underrepresented in the Republic Senate (often hundreds of worlds would have to share a single seat in the senate whereas core world planets would have several seats on the Senate), so the political impetuous for the Confederacy of Independent Systems came about. Many Outer Rim worlds, backed by the Outer Rim companies, seceded from the Republic, claiming it was unjust and unrepresentative of the Outer Rim. This movement was lead by a charismatic old aristocrat named Count Dooku, who molded the Confederacy into having an organized representative council which was more equal than the Republic (basically 1 planet = one senate seat), and separated corporate power from the government through legislative reforms and subordinating their corporate armies under the Separatist War Council, to make sure that all of the different arms of these corporations were acting in the interests of the CIS. By the time General Grievous became prominent, the corporate armies were essentially nationalized and became fully planned under the state.
>the imperialist policy of the Galactic Republic
Basically imagine post-WW2 Europe, the New Sith Wars were so brutal that many planets were reduced to pre-spacelight technology and making new spaceships became almost impossible all across the galaxy. The holonet (star wars internet basically) collapsed, and with it basically all communication in the galaxy. all communication had to be done by courier ships, and there were increasingly few to do this with as all civilians ships were pressed into military service to win the war. The Republic effectively collapsed and was replaced by a Jedi military dictatorship, entire battles were waged with mixes of high-tech blasters and iron age weaponry because entire worlds were so industrially destroyed, and whole sectors and systems of the galaxy were lost to memory because there was no communication or reliable star charts to get to them. after this massive war, the core worlds were reduced to ruin, and they needed hyper-exploitation of the outer rim in order to rebuild themselves, hence why they passed the tax exemption law and all that to extract resources for profit. Of course they never expected for there to be full industrialization of the outer rim, which is why the clone wars happened.
>how/why regarding Emperor Sheev Palpatine’s rise to power and the political economy of his Galactic Empire?
He manipulated the war (including Count Dooku from the start) to consolidate the powers of the Chancellorship and used the intel agencies and spec-ops groups of the Republic to do false-flag attacks on his enemies, basically clearing the road to power for himself. the proclamation of the galactic empire was basically a formality, by the 3rd year of the Clone Wars it basically already was the Empire, just with Jedi serving it. Sheev put down the CIS and allowed for Core world industries to exploit them even more than the Republic did, so Sheev is basically a parallel to fascism, enforcing capitalism in a time of immense crisis through a collaboration of the state, bouj, and petite-bouj with copious amounts of corporate favoritism.

 No.18227

critical support for emperor Palpatine!

 No.18228

>>18227
He's just developing the productive forces!
You think the backwards feudal Jedi would ever create something as impressive as the Death Star?

 No.18229

>>18228
Yeah, the giant fireball that replaced it. Cope harder Imperialist.eurekaEureka

 No.18230

Stop watching Star Wars.lenin_capLenin Cap

 No.18231

>>18229
>Imperialist
No you fucking idiot.
Republic is imperialist. Empire is liberator and had spread civillization across the Galaxy
The "muh Palpatine is brutal dictator killed 500000000 qiarrillion" is Jedi propaganda

 No.18232

Shouldn't this be on >>>/hobby/ ?

 No.18233

>>18232
> t. Republicoid

 No.18234

>>18231
The killing of the Jedi was justified and they should have killed more

 No.18235

After watching clone wars i realized that the whole point of the war makes no sense ,the movies potrayed the cis as an oligarchy but in universe the corporations blame both sides while both sides call each other out on being controled by plutocrats
How does this work?

 No.18236

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>>18234
>>18229
>>18228
>>18227
Palpatine was based. Fucking eat bantha poodo you feudal jedioids and republictards. Palpatine dindu nuffin wrong.

 No.18237

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>>18236
>Fucking eat bantha poodo you feudal jedioids and republictards. Palpatine dindu nuffin wrong.
Kys glowie
You can make fun of us but truth is truth
Palpatine was our Revolutionary leader, he exactly did nothing wrong. He crushed down the corrupt-oligarchic republic and destroyed the bourgeoisie planets
Stop listening to propaganda like "" NOOO Evil Vader killed my rich fathers Planet !!!!1!". They julags deserved it

 No.18238

>>18235
Jedi (liberal) propaganda deliberately portrays politics as confusing and a battle between good and evil

 No.18239

File: 1627058960665.mp4 (3.19 MB, 480x480, Sigma Anakin.mp4)

>Backwards order of conservative feudal monks
>Believes in some spooky nonsense religion where everyone who opposes them is on the "dark side"
>Defend a corrupt and decrepit bourgeois republic for 1000 years
>Literally abduct children and indoctrinate them into becoming warriors
>Protects a reactionary queen from being re-educated by accelerationist ancap robots
>Sends lumpen cannon fodder clones to their deaths in a galactic war so the spoiled labor-aristocratic citizenry doesn't have to fight

Can't believe anyone defends these guys. Younglings deserved it

 No.18240

If a Jedi ordered the Clone Army, how were the Kaminoans getting paid? I mean obviously they were in cahoots first with the Republic and then Empire. Follow the money and you'll see that the Banking Clan are the ones truly behind this!

 No.18241

>>18238
How are the Jedi liberals? They hold no economic power, and they probably are paid by tax dollars to run their facilities. Even their religious and philosophical influence is not that strong because there is clearly many more religions and groups around the philosophy of The Force.

 No.18242

>>18237
This. In fact it was during the Empire that citizens experienced unprecedented wealth. Did Palpatine hold some bias because of his religion? Yes but people already were Xenophobic, it was a different time. If it wasn't for the Rebellion and if the imperial Senate was patient I'm sure other species would have benefited, not only that but wages were on the rise before the Rebellion struck!

 No.18243

Was he a Blanquist?

 No.18245

>>18243
no Dooku was the Blanquist
Pellaeon was far more an equal-minded military dictatorship, not really ideologically aligned to anything more than its own self-preservation and modernization, since the Empire was clinging on to effectively 20 year old technology at that point mostly for aesthetics even as they were getting romped

 No.18246

>>18226
man, this shit is basically a foreshadowing of what’s gonna happen when porkies terraform Mars and develop the “productive forces”

 No.18251

>>18226
>Basically imagine post-WW2 Europe, the New Sith Wars were so brutal that many planets were reduced to pre-spacelight technology and making new spaceships became almost impossible all across the galaxy. The holonet (star wars internet basically) collapsed, and with it basically all communication in the galaxy. all communication had to be done by courier ships, and there were increasingly few to do this with as all civilians ships were pressed into military service to win the war. The Republic effectively collapsed and was replaced by a Jedi military dictatorship, entire battles were waged with mixes of high-tech blasters and iron age weaponry because entire worlds were so industrially destroyed, and whole sectors and systems of the galaxy were lost to memory because there was no communication or reliable star charts to get to them. after this massive war, the core worlds were reduced to ruin, and they needed hyper-exploitation of the outer rim in order to rebuild themselves, hence why they passed the tax exemption law and all that to extract resources for profit. Of course they never expected for there to be full industrialization of the outer rim, which is why the clone wars happened.



Wait what that's fucking metal as fuck do people really hate the new disney lore? I was a huge SW fan as a kid and read tons of books and never remember anything that hardcore happening so that's a post-disney thing right?

 No.18253

Reminder that the Republic is human supremacist while Confederacy was diverse. Agent Dooku was sent by Republicans to undermine the anti-imperialist struggle in Confederate planets.

 No.18257

why didn't you just post this in the Star Wars thread, conveniently named the Star Wars thread? In there you may have found ansers to ALL of your questions, just saying.
>>6962
>>6963
>>7677

 No.18258

>>18230
Stop being assmad

 No.18259

>>18257
Ah I realize this was transferred from /leftypol/ in which case, I doubly recommend use of the existing Star Wars thread.

 No.18260

>>18251
this is old legends lore, but disney has lowkey implied this is still the current lore as well, just not outright codified it. they've namedropped a lot of characters very pivotal to the series (Revan, Nilus, Satielle Shawn, Darth Bane, ect ect) so its likely they will do a remake sort of deal with the New Sith Wars. Which would be nice, the most representation they ever got in Legends was a few comic books and 2 or 3 novels.

 No.18267

>>18251
Nah, thats Old Republic lore from KotoR's. The post-original-trilogy aesthetic of disney is far more akin to TNO Warlord Russia for the lack of a better analogy. Shits fucked, Republic is barely stable, remnants and banditry everywhere, economic chaos.

 No.19228

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inb4 travistite. I prefer the lore pre clone brain chip that order 66 was the come uppance of the jedi for sacrificing their morals for accepting a slave army and the evils of the kaminoans who twist humanity into a pliable to authority amoral servant in a way like the actual machines they were fighting though reflections of jangos past humanity are present. Though the clones were sad they had to kill their former comrades and leaders they justified it by a good soldier follows orders and the mental conditioning and genetic manipulation they were put through demands that they go through with it. Most stay with the empire and obey their orders and the jedi order is effectively removed as a serious power with Vader and elite 501st troops and inquisitors or maybe normal powered star killer purge the remaining jedi until maybe a handful are left when Luke destroys the DS. Clones remain effective in their physical deterioration with increasing use of cybernetics. They fit marvelously with Vader's aethetic and truly are his fist. any rebel force would get decimated going against them. They join the Remnant are now almost complete machines dark trooper pre phase I maybe. They laugh heartily and the galaxy shakes. they are the 5 0 1ST.

 No.19229

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>>19228
*I hate the filoni it aint sheev shit with the clones being tossed aside after the war and imperials mistreating these beacons of imperialists propaganda who defeated the dreaded neo lib ancap terrorist separatist scum. GrandFather Palpatine would never allow his coup degrace against the jedi terrorist shadow cabal nutjobs squalor away. He would send out Jango's face the Mando terror so the enemies of the sith would be reminded of their complete failure every time they hear the gruff concord down voice as the knife twist of the jedi sacrificing the noble values of the republic and the order itself against their seppy bourgeois enemies

 No.19230

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>>19229
*filoni can't stand his action figures being portrayed as the "bad" guys even though they shouldn't be judged by human morality because of kaminoan genetic manipulation so he has to find away to take them away from based sheev. The clones should proudly serve the empire they helped build. The Remnant continues to honor these brave heroes hundreds of years later.

 No.19231

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>>19230
*even story armor alderaanian reactionary bourgeois jezebelles still have nightmares of that cold concordian dawn voice. waking up in piss next to some corellian failson who watches his man sized dog "best" friend fuck that heiress gusanita generallisma. Luke a hardenned boy hero whose relatives were unlucky unforchsm being corrupted by shadow government COUNCIL propaganda respects clone stormys.

 No.19232

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>>19231
Filoni has sanitized the clones revolutionary message of unshackling themselves from the failures of the decadent old republic and separatist alliance and embarking on a bold new path promising peace and prosperity to the galaxy. Filoni has changed them into rebel toadies and neolib fools.

 No.19233

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>>18257
NO YOU DUMB FOOLS. Where was Palpatine from? NABOO. Naboo is the center of all political conflict which engulfed the Republic which wasn't a true Republic. The Credit system established post Mandalore Wars was corrupted and bankrupted by whom? BY THE NABOO. The Catamite Palpatine after following thru on the reichstag fire event that was the Great Purge and established a satanic masochistic central banking system. NABOO IS THE ENEMY. The confederacy, republic and mandalorians are all prostitutes of the BRITISH, I MEAN the NABOO.

 No.19234

>>19232
Filoni has gained my trust through his other work for me to let him work out his vision. But if it turns out to suck my head canon will just have it end with season 7 finale because that shit was perfect.

 No.19237

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>>19234
FIlONI IS A BRITISH AGENT

 No.19238

>>19233
DO NOT listen to this infiltrator who is making a FALSE prophet event and is trying to break the party line of the Galactic Caucus of Labor. The LaRouche movement fully supports Emperor Palpatine in his goals to rebuild the Galaxy and its brave, vast infrastructure projects, exemplified by the so called "death" star as the Eopie loving Couruscant yuppies called this marvel of Galactic engineering. Sadly it was destroyed by the Russanist Rebel Aliance, which is, of course, run directly out ISB Central Office by that blasted droid-sexual Tarkin and Ardus Kaine and his big spice cartel, all, obviously, controled from Serreno by House Dooku.

 No.19239

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>>19238
PALPATINE IS A CATEMITE. Its confirmed by authoritative sources in the Intergalactic Caucus of Labor. The Galactic Caucus is a Naboo Royal PLOT by the House of Theed, Nabierre and PALPATINE. PALPATINE is a NABOO AGENT. Palpatine is not a sith but a faggot. Many onCoruscant whisper about Palpatine and Flagrente at the Starcruiser hotel. According to leading psychoanalysts Palpatine is what is described as that of a lizard catamite variety. WE DON'T NEED A DEATH STAR. We need economic development of the OUTER RIM. Get the Hutt cartel out and it will begin to happen immediately!

 No.19240

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>>19239
Yes support Thrawn's Defender project. Remove guasano poo in loos.

 No.19259



I HATE SHEEVIST REVISIONISTS. I HATE SHEEVIST REVISIONISTS

 No.19276

>>19259
WeTenebrous we know.

 No.19277

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>>19276
ANOTHER CATAMITE. Join the GCLC and LarouchePac!

 No.19313

>>18225
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