Appreciate the economic discussion in the last thread.
I fear the Lithuania situation may get actually hot, since everbody involved seems to be a bit too serious for a simple bluff.
waiting for the G.O.E.B.B.E.L.S-Pact
DPA IS DOING HEADLINES NOW!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JKZW2GYJ0g
01:34 Russia cut off gas supply to Finland
01:56 Gazprom cut gas supplies via Nord Stream 1 by 60% due to "technical problems"
03:23 Gas flow to Italy reduced by 50% due to "technical reasons"
04:23 Gasflow from Germany to France ceased due to Russia supply reduction
05:42 Russia cut gas supply to Slovakia by 50%
06:40 Siemens confirmed that Canadian sanctions resulted in failure to return repaired Turbines to Gazprom
07:22 Russia is now China's biggest oil supplier overtaking Saudi Arabia
08:50 Russia so far had cut off gas to Bulgaria, Denmark, Finland, Poland and the Netherlands - more disruptions expected due to "planned maintenance"
10:03 Germany, Italy, Austria & Netherlands to reopen coal-fired plants
11:21 Sweden and Denmark declares "early warning" over gas supplies fears
12:08 EU say looming global food crisis is not EU's fault - nothing to do with sanctions on Russia
13:31 African Union claims that they can't make payment for Russian cereal and fertilizer imports due to EU sanctions
14:59 Turkey wants Black Sea grain corridor with Russia for Ukrainian grain exports
16:36 US Govt secretly pushing companies to supply more Russian fertilizer
18:32 Pakistan admit shortage of fertilizer in the country
20:07 Export woes for Russian fertilizers | barter trading in discussion
You can find the "DPA Headlines" Map and links to the reported articles on http://defensepoliticsasia.com/
Baltoids need a serious wake up call, they cannot keep pushing their luck like this.
their wake up call will be the sirens calling them to go to the nuclear shelters
not even a Putinoid but with enemies like those..
>>1027341>muh borgars but slavic
americaa has truly won
it was really a lose lose situation. Best option would imho have been to make it fast food but more slavic, dunno.
I just like Pelmeni i rly do.
>>1027343>muh pizza but New York style
Italy has truly won
Don't insult the burger. It is the superior sandwich. All other sandwiches, you get precooked deli meat. Burger you get fresh grilled beef. Also thin cut fries instead of wedges or kringle cut are the superior form of fry. >>1027344
Ok here's how we make it extra slavic. We make the bun out of beets.
grilled beet is fucking supreme, put that shit in, rye bread too
Russia already has a slavic fast food franchise, Teremok. Serves blini and pelmeni.
You're seriously going to ask that after your sperg out yesterday?
They think the world is regressing if they can't rule it
we dont although media does its best. Unironically fascists death-cultism
German anon what the fuck happened to Die Linke? Can't you get a few ex-Stasi guys in charge and turn things around?
they basically turned AOC. Its like asking what happened to the left Democrats. Theyre New Left like everbody you have too.
I am not pro-Stasi imho. KGB worked well and did what it had to. Stasi was a bummer against worker solidarity.
I just really hope you don't think they look like that just because it's in Russia.
The Western left has a lot of pro imperialist, social patriotic tendencies rising
Unsurprising given how the left liberalized and abandoned revolution in the Cold War, opting for a democratic path that means identifying with its imperialist struggle against the periphery
Sometimes I wonder if center-left politicians and American socdems are trying to compensate for seeming too radical to the establishment by completely going onboard the imperialistic front or if they are genuinely that blind to what they're about to support
But I'm just a guy, not a bourgeois government?>>1027379
Idk, the governments seem to have a pretty intense death drive
They are subconsciously aware and doing it out of self-preservation instincts, in the sense that they want to preserve their position and recognize the threat being posed to their empire's grip on the planet that affords them their luxuries.
you can't just post that without a link m8
>>1027390>Sometimes I wonder if center-left politicians and American socdems are trying to compensate for seeming too radical to the establishment by completely going onboard the imperialistic front or if they are genuinely that blind to what they're about to support
No they just want to make it clear that the only reaction that they struggle against is national, and they think the liberal international order is otherwise progressive and subverted by this reaction rather than an extension of it.
Look at Ro Khanna. He dropped a bunch of liberal dogwhistles tied to progressive ideas when challenged on his utter hypocrisy on Ukraine, where he accused the US of having a reactionary role there while campaigning under Trump
This is why Leninism considered liberalism and social democracy in imperialist countries to be less progressive than the progressive national bourgeoisie in backward countries.
One of my turnoffs from social democracy even as a compromise (aside from compromising on revolution in the first place) is that its welfare, living standards, and laws all require exploitation to be expanded elsewhere to compensate, whether that be cheap labour abroad, resources, or the profitability of the companies they tax. I would not be surprised if for some social democrats, they had to face the fact that the continued stability of their nation depended on supporting a war with some African country and cutting a sweet deal with the invading government just to keep their country's welfare state afloat, even if they're not personally the ones with the huge military budgets.
If they didn't actually need to, all the worse for those socdem politicians as people
>>1027401>One of my turnoffs from social democracy even as a compromise (aside from compromising on revolution in the first place) is that its welfare, living standards, and laws all require exploitation to be expanded elsewhere to compensate, whether that be cheap labour abroad, resources, or the profitability of the companies they tax
Their idea of democratic right is no higher than its historic construction, which is exploitation of the world. They just want to argue that this is still higher than the backward form of capitalism practiced by periphery nations like Russia and China. This is to argue the world's conflict is caused by a democratic deficit between one side and another rather than world monopoly and its exploitation.
>>1027401>One of my turnoffs from social democracy even as a compromise (aside from compromising on revolution in the first place) is that its welfare, living standards, and laws all require exploitation to be expanded elsewhere to compensate, whether that be cheap labour abroad, resources, or the profitability of the companies they tax.
Well in theory they don't, since capitalists could hypothetically just accept lower profits. I'm not sure if there's any statistical evidence to support the assertion that social democracy in the core leads to increased exploitation of the periphery. If that were true we would expect to see exploitation of the periphery to dramatically increase in the 50s/60s when social democracy was at its height, but I'm not aware of any evidence that this was the case. I think it may have more to do with the rate of profit and whether or not this can sustain both high profits for corporations and generous concessions to workers.
>>1027348>thin cut fries instead of wedges or kringle cut are the superior form of fry.
As a Belgian I can confidently say that you don't know anything about fries, Americans don't even fry them twice .
Fries are best when they're fat and a little soft. Besides the best fry sauce is a mix of mayo and ketchup.
>>1027409>>1027409>Besides the best fry sauce is a mix of mayo and ketchup.
We call that thousand island here. Some burger places call it secret sauce or special sauce.
Alot of people just cant handle being shamed so they try to fit themselves into the status quo by showing 'im one of the good ones, not like them evil Tankies' which is pointless because there going to be against you regardless. >>1027401> One of my turnoffs from social democracy
For me it was realizing that any gains made by social democracy can be privatized the moment anyone to the Right of you is elected.
I mean, the idea class compromises in the core depend on super exploitation in the periphery, such that they divide the spoils of imperialism, is old and part of the idea of why social democrats and more well off workers came out for imperialist war.
I think it was Vivek Chibber who gave a counterargument, albeit specifically about whether workers benefit from imperialism rather than class compromises depend on it, that after the 70s/80s workers have stagnated while capital reaps the benefits of globalization. But, it does seem to remain that liberal and social democratic welfarism, like the rest of their expansion of democratic right, depends on being on the top of the world.
Europeans are more civilized than us
but to what price
We would say you have higher taxes and more expensive goods, therefore you are a communist dictatorship. So, your freedom I guess. Also you are degenerate nudists.
>>1027407>the assertion that social democracy in the core leads to increased exploitation of the periphery
Increased over modern neoliberalism? No
Hypothetically yes, though for some industries it's a lot more precarious than just having less billionaire CEOs. I heard from a guy that used to work on airlines who got laid off since Covid that the whole air business was just a bunch of deficits and huge loans, and even the slightest interruption in business or expected revenue could be disastrous. Of course, airlines could be nationalized or subsidized which might help a few problems, but business precarity and the falling rate of profit only seem to suggest that a system that nevertheless relies on taxing profits relies on those profits.
Also, I misspoke when I say expanded, since I don't necessarily mean that it necessarily gets larger somewhere else, but maybe more reliant, more invested in, the source of profit (which is cheap labour and easy resources). It may not necessarily have blown up around that time but could have taken place while, say, other non-European nations began to industrialize and needed some special goods from those same social democratic countries, which could come at a premium or something else
They should assign him a license plate that starts with a Z.
America, for now, keeps being at the top, so their promises seem true. When they fall, Europe will have an existential crisis.
Burgers get OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>1027323>im not an empire you're the empire ! securing your own border, or backing up your ally against foreign backed jihad mercenaries is imperialism guyz ! actually theres no russian nation it just moscals colonizers just break it up already !
lol. why is USA trying so hard to get a moral high ground to convince the ""left"" that its war is just ?
they were fine with explicit american exceptionalism before
also once again revealing the true plan that hasnt changed since hitler: crying that russia isnt an africa tier shithole completely open to west exploitation
Burgers talk too much about "innovation" and shitt and they just discovered Salsa Golf
White golfers discovered salsa they said 'this is too hot, it needs mayonnaise'
I've only heard of that mixture called Salsa Rosa.
Bang bang sauce tho
Looks like to the contrary, things were too boring>According to the many versions of the tradition, the golf sauce was invented by the chemist Luis Federico Leloir —years later awarded the Nobel Prize— in the mid-1920s, when he attended the "Golf Club" of the seaside resort of Mar del Plata together with his friends. Bored of always eating shrimp and prawns accompanied by mayonnaise, he asked the waiter (waiter) to bring him various ingredients (vinegar, lemon, mustard, ketchup, various spices, etc.) with the intention of trying different mixtures. Of all of them, the one they liked the most was the one with ketchup and mayonnaise. Since then the friends baptized it golf sauce and its fame spread.>If I had patented that sauce, we'd have a lot more money to research right now.>Luis Federico Leloir>>1027544
>>1027553>shrimp with mayonnaise
what the fuck is wrong with people
>>1027392>But I'm just a guy, not a bourgeois government
The only thing I'll give you credit for is coming up with a crypto fascist alliance you are opposing that actually included the imperial core
I'm not sure when or why you changed this, but I hope I had something to do with it. Your ww3 hopes are deranged though
>oh boy, King Shit replied to a post about US being butthurt about China
>I wonder what it will say
Okay, permaban this stupid Americunt. Fuck him. Fuck the USA.
PUTIN PLEASE STATUS-6 CALIFORNIA.
more delusion from the schizoid. i know you're really a liberal and you think that Russia is like Iraq or something but a major war with Russia would not actually be good for Biden's approval ratings, or for European trust in American security
Where was that picture taken, 🤔?
Ukraine used to be one of these spergs lol
These psycho wojak memes are incredibly cringe
Also people making them don't understand that Ukraine literally had the largest, most experienced and motivated army in Europe. Hence Russia's """failure""" to take it over in the matter of days. Meanwhile all of these meme countries would get stomped by Ukraine, let alone Russia. Yes, even Poland. Polish military is a joke.
Yeah, the Soviet heritage is really mind boggling isn't it? Even after decades of selling equipment off for scrap or just letting it rot, Ukraine had like the 5th largest armored forces in the world, thousands of artillery units, a comprehensive AA network etc.
Imagine if all that was used to cross the Fulda Gap instead of genociding Russians in the East. Tfw.
In case you forgot, NATO has been training Ukraine's armed forces (and arming them) since 2014. Additionally, this 8+years with periods of intense heavy fighting equates to many of them having notable combat experience. What European army can match this?
Я тут с 2016 сижу)
This can't be real. Is he really this desperate and separated from reality? Even worse if he is reading that from a teleprompter written by his handlers, who are supposed to be the responsible adults in the room.
>>1027846>Westoids getting very fucking close to outright declaring war with Russia
It’s like Joe Biden said: Americans are feeling really, really down.
Surprised they didn't hold it today to coincide with the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa and rant about the Mongolian hordes.
After Russell Bentley is finished in Ukraine
What type of drone is that? Looks like an expensive military grade one tbh
Maybe a Turkish Bayraktar.
Disclaimer: I am not a /k/ autismo.
Seems like a waste to kamikazi it then, it could have had a defect tho so then maybe it's a good choice
Maybe they run out of missiles for them
What did they use for the charge, then? An IED?
Actually Ukraine is the Rebel Alliance, Zelensky is Mon Mothma and >>1027896
was like when the A-Wing crashed into the Super Star Destroyer in Episode 6
I read he spoke about harry potter to students, and I thought it was kind of cute, then I realised these students were a bunch of grown adults.
i beg you, read another book
The "How do you do fellow kids?" kind of guy?
I wouldn't be too flattered by the Winston Churchill comparisons either, though considering the guy is famous for giving a couple of speeches, maybe it's an accurate analogy.
I was giving this kid the benefit of the doubt hoping he was like 12 but it's a Toronto university student kek
As someone who used to dress up as Harry potter for Halloween I am deeply offended
I think it's funny, the idea that Russians joining Russia after being excluded from the nation is blood and soil but the forced Ukrainization of multiethnic areas is just nation building
I notice liberal ideology really struggles to make sense of foreign conditions without contradicting itself. What always sticks with me is how hard Marxists had to work to analyze different times and places to stay consistent and connect their movements to each other. Liberals just sort of declare they've discovered a secular truth while in the heights of civilization and tell you to get with the program or we divide you along antidemocratic lines
No, they just can't do it without revealing themselves to be Nazis. Try looking up their reasons for why Africa is a civil warring shithole.
I'm starting to feel like this war is gonna drag out forever, like Ukraine just keeps throwing men, ammo, drones, and shit at Russia and they keep scoring casualties, slaughtering civilians without anybody in the West keeping them in check. Like, I'm starting to wonder if there'll ever be a day when this mess can be called over and done.
Depends on what Russia's objectives are. If it's just to push Ukraine out of the Donbass then the war will end pretty soon, but anymore than that and it's gonna drag on for a while
Imagine the fucking Consul of Rome 5.0 having to beg latifundia to give their grain for the bread dole.
Once the bulk of mechanized forces in the bulge gets clapped, it's pretty much over and the rest of Ukraine will get rolled, because light infantry won't do shit. There are no Urals for Ukraine to pump out more equipment, no mountains to conduct a guerilla campaign from
pushing ukrops out of donbas won't end the war though. ukraine will keep stockpiling long range howitzers from nato to shell donbas and crimea and all other "russian occupied territories". russia may want to stop, but ukraine will keep going.
it looks like russia will have to keep going either until they force an unconditional surrender from kiev or until they topple the regime and drive us-nato out of ukraine entirely. there won't be any peace until one of those two things happens.
Those companies won't lower any prices and will keep the profit lol
Ukraine will give up after losing Kharkiv and acquiesce to a partition. It'll be forced to accept that it can either have nationalism or SSR borders, and it chose nationalism with the perverted kind of decommunization that supposes.
Ukraine is, ironically, a lesson in what liberals call reactionary democracy after Trump/Brexit. Right wing populism, which is the real ideology of the Orange Revolution and Maidan, identified a false elite dividing the nation and went after an ethnic minority on behalf of one.
Dude what about NATO countries across the border like Poland that's probably gonna stop at nothing to keep rearming Ukraine and let them train however many cannon fodder as well as ukrofash believers to bleed Russia to death?
This article ends on a hopeful note, but it seems obvious that liberal internationalism will only gain more American support as the US loses primacy. At one point, Bessner claims that liberal internationalists "are aware of the beating that American prestige took" in recent wars, and this time they want to beat China with principles. doubt.jpg
Poland? It had 249 Leopard 2's. 232 PT-91s, which are just upgraded T-72. 250 Abrams that aren't going to come until 2025. And ~300 T-72's, 200 of which they already gave to Ukraine, and Germany refused to replace. They also have ~800 upgraded BMP-1s. I think they also nearly gave Ukraine their jets, but didn't because US wouldn't replace those either. The literal Polish military wouldn't fare better than Ukraine's, nevermind any suicidal fuckwits that want to assault across the plains.
It seems Russia is the only country with an actual Military-Industrial Complex that can do its job, NATO's stockpiles are dwindling and replacement timetable is in fucking years
They just have no flexibility left, they're all completely fucked with institutional capture. They're thralls of the technocapital algorithm at this point with no ability to move beyond the logic of short term profit. Liberals love writing articles about "Here is how liberalism can still win" but there's no real will or ability to carry out their pipe dreams, all they can do is burn resources, deregulate, cut wages and lock out any reformists. The profit motive demands they build their gallows faster.
I have been waiting for some kind of news on this for a few months.
Russia said it would attack Kiev decision-making centers in retaliation for the attack on the oil rig. Nothing has happened.
And they wonder why even insignificant Lithuania isn't afraid to spit in their faces.
God I hate this class collaborating bitch
and US leftists have the gall to call her a champion of the people
US leftists thought Bernie the Bomber, a man who raises his voice only when seeking a political promotion, was Engels reincarnated.
After 2016 liberalism joined conservatism in a Western crisis. I think we are still understanding the former since it's more complex, but I think we know it's caused by capitalist decay whereas the latter is causes by capitalist progress
Critical support for oil companies selling oil at 10 dollars a gallon
They are basically modern day south Vietnam
What they mean is Sri Lanka will never be le civilized European nation state. That's OK, that model is out of date. They can build their poor man's Poland, it's all they have left in terms of nation building. The periphery will be moving mountains in comparison.
They already erased the fact that Ukraine is full of neonazis in its government, erasing the fact it's a poorfag, corrupt shithole is easy.
Keep reading the thread, they start shitting out their mouth about how Ukraine has been cycling soldiers at the front for 8 years (as if Russia hasn’t lmao) then point out that Russia has a more advanced army and three times the population, but the Ukrainians have the “fighting for the homeland” perk
Kyle kulinski reacted to Ukraine banning Russian music and such, the comments were full of libs rationalizing it. Same with banning parties. At some point you have to ask, do they not realize this is why Ukraine has been losing its claim to Donbass
The extent of liberal degeneration we've seen in the last ten years is stunning. I never really saw it coming.
National spirit: "for the fatherland!" - we ukrainians fully understand our germanic and volkische history, and with the help of our azov battalion, we will surely win against putler and the orc army of russia.
+15.0% diplomacy with authoritarian democracies
>>1028333>the comments were full of libs rationalizing it.
Do you remember what they were saying
All those measures will hurt them in end, because imagine they will have to negotiate after they literally book-burned everything written by a Russian.
Everytime a Western leader comes to Kiev they get scammed with lofty promises of getting into NATO, getting their own Marshal Plan, getting into the EU, etc. - none of this will happen but Ukraine eats it up like they are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth.
I guess Zelensky really is a puppet, otherwise you can't explain this retardation.
It’s not too hard to explain if you consider the military or Azovcels will straight up merc him no cap fr fr if he doesn’t fight the war to the logical conclusion of the Russians occupying Kyiv and forcing him to surrender at gunpoint
They're trying to drag it out, and maybe even saddle Russia with the bill of rebuilding Ukraine, or whatever parts of Ukraine that secede to join Russia.
The problem is that it may be the case that it hurts EU more than Russia. IF it's actually hurting Russia. No, the profits from carbons haven't stopped. No, the ammo didn't run out in 10 days. And EU leaders are sweating, asking Ukraine to go for a peace deal, even though Boris Johnson already told Ukraine to keep fighting. Muh Russia failed because they failed at fast victory fags btfo. (? inconclusive)
McDonald's taste the same everywhere, that is literally their entire brand, tastes the same in Pakistan or Brazil too. And that basically just is McDonald's under a different name, machines, employees and supply chains are the same.
Is it what Western nations intended? Because leaders of poor and devolving nations (like that of Ukraine) may accept offers from ANY COUNTRY, EVEN THE UNITED STATES, just to keep their people alive.
>>1028329>but the Ukrainians have the “fighting for the homeland” perk
It's amazing how detached from reality libs are when it comes to this. "MUH HOMELAND" perk is only in effect away from the frontline, where the conscripts are hyping themselves up thinking they could easily beat a MUCH more advanced and professional army, but when they actually arrive at the battlefield, all it takes is one single artillery shell blowing one of their comrades to pieces, and their instinct of fight or flight will instantly kick in, resulting in them pissing their pants and hiding in cover filled with fear like a little baby with no self-agency, or even deserting the battlefield in some cases. That pretty much reduces their already low combat effectiveness by a significant amount, rendering them as nothing more than pure cannon fodder.
Apparently Ukrainian soldiers have extremely low morale at this point, idk what the fuck reality redditors are in
It's funny, they are so detached from reality they don't understand that there's actually explicit reasons that modern militaries don't
put soldiers near where they are from if they can avoid it.
>>1028424>However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.
As Sandinista-anon learned, when graduating from a scrub, "Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds" is more true than you realize.
What’s this replying to? Someone comparing Ukraine and Sri Lanka?
The response seems to be: “Racism is correct.”
Basically people were asking why are we sending money as a blank check for the war in Ukraine but won’t send anything to the Sri Lankans
Rather than the obvious answer that Ukraine is sacrificial pawn in a proxy war, the liberal wanted to argue that actually the Ukraine war isn’t a money sink because the Ukrainians are like us
Not actually a bad idea visually but maybe GT could hire someone who isn’t a crackhead to draw it?
That happened in Krasnyi Luch, Lugansk about a week ago (people say either Tochka-U or 2 su-25's; accounts differ and some mention stay behind partisan saboteurs but only as speculation).https://www.thelowdownblog.com/2022/06/ukrainian-missile-attack-destroys.htm
Apparently that town has been used regularly as a weapons cache as its proximity to railways etc is advantageoushttps://web.archive.org/web/20200921125250/https://glasnostgone.org/2019/07/21/a-tour-of-russian-military-bases-at-ukrainian-town-of-krasnyi-luch/https://vk.com/wall-51146063_4751
Apparently one in Skadovsk, Kherson was also hit recentlyhttps://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1539683536889954304
Have no insight as to the military implications of this. The number of shells being fired daily by Russia is immense, but if that was an important area of their offensive it could have cascading effects towards stalling in other regions nearby i would guess
If I was deep into the Ukraine shit from January to March but haven't paid attention since, is it too late for me to get back in?
Can anyone who's eaten McDonald's in America and any other country, preferable not bordering America confirm? I feel like foreign McDonalds would have to source produce and meat that would taste different due to feed and different soil or something.
can somebody tldr me what imf's special drawing right is? Drawing what, money?
I went to a mcdonalds in India, they don't serve pork or beef so everything was veggie and chicken based. very different
Not really. Essentially it's been mostly military changes, which are pretty easy to catch up to. The one big thing that you need to know in this respect is how Russia retreated from northern Ukraine and is focusing fully on the Donbas for now.
As for geopolitical changes:>western sanctions backfired and actually increased Russia's oil + gas sales instead of decreasing it like the west hoped for>Media largely dropped the narrative that Ukraine is winning the war and Russia's army is completely incompetent, now they're reporting the actual state of the war: Ukrainian's are taking about 1000 casualties each day, low morale, military supplies low as well since weapons aren't making it to the frontlines, are getting instantly destroyed by Russian missile/artillery attacks or being sold to the black market by corrupt officers or soldiers themselves etc.>Everyone, except western countries and their vassal like Poland, are pro-Russia in this conflict and know that US/NATO is to blame for this war, so international support for this war is heavly dwindling>Russia is already in the process of integrating the newly consolidated territories into the RF>Russia is slowly but steady securing the Donbas, with Luhansk close to being liberated now that the only big objective left there is Lysychansk (Severodonetsk largely taken, only UAF presence left there is soldiers hunkering down in the Azot factory zone and stalling, AKA Azovstal 2.0)>DLPR having trials against mercenaries, some have been sentenced to execution>Estonia and Bulgaria's coalition governments collapsed due to differences over this conflict and the EU>Lithuania blocking rail import/exports from Kaliningrad>Turkey blocked Sweden's and Finland's NATO applications on accusations of them being pro-PKK (Kurds)/ not denouncing them as terrorists>China backing Russia more openly now>Zelensky stated that he's willing to accept peace with concessions to Russia, including ceding them territory
that's the gist of it, at least what I know so far
The line hasn't moved much since post-retreat and now, aside from the ongoing situation in Severodonetsk and the five Zolotes being encircled. Mostly just attrition battles right now.
Hope this will redpill more people. I honestly can't wait their victory declaration. Fuck those puppets
That is a change due to culture/religion, but the chicken and veggie stuff they serve would taste the same.
The McDonald's here in Indonesia taste pretty good, also they're certified halal since 1994
>>1028297>Ukraine, a country where people still farm using horses, is a great investment because some people once invested in Peloton.>>1028508>Zelensky stated that he's willing to accept peace with concessions to Russia, including ceding them territory
Really? When was that, damn.
He's flip flopped around on his position about concessions. In like March or April he said that conserving lives was more important than conserving territory and that he would be willing to recognize Crimea and the Donbass, but he changed his mind after meeting with NATO leaders and getting more arms supplies
As the other anon said, Zelensky keeps changing his mind on ceding land for peace. At this point it's strongly suggested that the UK (US as well) is the one that's obstructing the peace talks with Russia.https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/05/09/ukrainian-news-outlet-suggests-uk-and-us-governments-are-primary-obstacles-to-peace/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paperhttps://tfiglobalnews.com/2022/05/12/zelensky-now-throws-boris-johnson-under-the-bus-for-fuelling-the-war-in-ukraine/
On the other had, France has tried telling Zelensky that giving up some land for a peace agreement would be a smart idea.https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/zelenskyy-suggests-macron-asked-him-to-give-up-land-for-peace/2587476
So in short, the eternal Anglo is fucking shit up again, as usual. After those attemps at peace talks failled in april thanks to them, it was super clear to Russia that they aren't negotiating with Ukraine, they're negotiating with the West.
Didn't know Assad was Texan.
Hey anons, do you all think that the G20 meeting will solve both sides' problems?
Ah, there's EU industrial bourgeoisie. A bit late to the party, but they're here now.
What country will come next…???
>>1028409>That pretty much reduces their already low combat effectiveness by a significant amount, rendering them as nothing more than pure cannon fodder
But the pure cannon fodder is effective if they just need to keep the conflict hot while the US sets up their cold war and the new iron curtain or whatever.
So what are they going to do, fall back to deeper defensive lines? The moment they let the troops operate with a modicum of self preservation there would be a rout. So they just keep dumping TDF and poorly trained recruits and doing their best to get their bad troops stuck in and caught inside encirclements while their good troops stay the bigger cities to keep them costly to take.
Every cauldron is a bitter fight to the death as far as propaganda is concerned, just keep around enough highly motivated factions in charge, Nazis or foreigners, who have good reason to fear surrender and every encirclement will be contain a bitter resistance until they physically cannot fight.
The Ukrainian government has infinite leeway thanks to the US, to do whatever with the south eastern territories which are basically forfeit to them.The Donbass front will eventually collapse and with it the Ukrainian will to fight. They'll get their European Israel, whatever happens.
The thing is, it's hard for Ukraine to pull off those cauldrons in the region between the Dnieper and left of Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. It's purely open fields and smaller towns, so no big infrastructures like Azovstal or Azot for the Ukrainians to heavily fortify and stall out till they run out of morale and energy.
Once the Russians take Kramatorsk and the surrounding cities, they'll have a far easier time securing territory until they hit Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporozhia. Especially because they can hit the Ukie from both the South and the East.
Hell yeah, that helps a lot. Thanks.
What does it mean in practical terms, though? Like, when do Western capitalist fat cats upend the anti-Russian efforts so they can get some of those big bucks?
Had macdon's in japan and china. They have some unique menu items that you can't really compare but the generic stuff (cheeseburger, big mac, etc.) taste pretty much the same imo.
The standard menu burgers in Europe can taste differently depending on the country.
Can anyone explain how this happened?
So, question to all the ziggas ITT who saw my post in the last thread. Do you think it was a correct decision by the mods to 2-day-aite-wide ban me for the post where I argued why Lithuania wasn't nazi, with the ban reason being a simple "nazi dog"?
Sorry Nojus it looks like your late for your SS parade, best hurry along now!
not even a Z-ler but lmaoing @ you're life
It was probably calling Russians ethnic slurs and settlers while playing down the history of nationalism in Lithuania
You've been passively showing anti-Russian sentiment from the start and seething that we aren't condemning Russia in Donbass, when we know thanks to being communists how violently reactionary nationalist decommunization is. It makes us wonder if you actually support it.
Dont let the crackers keep you down my slavic brother. Russians are the Yankee of Eastern Europe and you have everh reason to be cautious about them
If theyre east of germany, they are slavic. Simple as.
We should go back to discussing how we should handle the national question. I see three paths people took in the past
1. Nationality matters, everything within a border should be assimilated and borders should reflect population distribution. Downside is there's historical squabbling about historic populations
2. Nationality doesn't matter, we should be Luxemburgists or embrace something like cultural-national autonomy.
3. Some mix of the two we saw with national Soviet republics dotted with autonomous oblasts, ASSRs, etc.
Because you questioned the official party line
I think the Soviet approach is best in the short term, with a gradual transition to a Luxemburgist approach. The issue is that historically things often get stalled on the Soviet or Yugo models.
>>1028660>What does it mean in practical terms, though?
The currency battle is about making a country default on it's foreign held debt, and loose the ability to buy stuff from abroad.
Russia exports a lot of primary sector commodities like food and energy that all the other sectors depend on, that's why the predicted currency crash isn't happening, and the Ruble is leaning towards becoming a strong currency. Neo-liberals ignore production chains, and they have no theoretical equivalent to input-output models that Marxist use. It seems like they had no idea what would happen if they unplugged Russia from the system, because they just looked at financial indicators. Russia had a small financial foot print but a massive material foot print.
There is always the possibility that they weren't morons and they intended to create all of this chaos. It's not a bug it's a feature type of deal. The capitalists managed to steal a lot of wealth from the working class during this crisis, the arms industry and US based fracking gas industry made a lot of profits. The US has had a consistent foreign policy for the last 10 years, to cause countries they don't like to have food shortages. So it might be that they intended to create a big famine in the southern hemisphere. US foreign policy also has had a tendency to cause blow-back that damages Europe for the last 10 years also. So maybe they intended that too. They certainly wanted to create more tension between Russia and Germany. But even so, their primary goal was to challenge Russian autonomy and beat them down into a subservient imperial vassal, and the exact opposite has happened.
>Like, when do Western capitalist fat cats upend the anti-Russian efforts so they can get some of those big bucks?
I don't know, capitalist aren't gods, they can be stupid too. It's hard to imagine how you could convince a capitalist to pay double the price on energy, but here we are and they haven't revolted yet. Maybe the ruling classes have degenerated and they believe their own lies. We should consider figuring out how that trick worked and use it to double wages.
Anne Frank sequel just hit the shelves.
I wonder if they will be editing this one like they did with hers too https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-entertainment-new-york-kharkiv-d0787b905807e2f208ccae94672482dd
why does this give me tursun and/or nayirah vines
How does a 12 year old girl get male pattern baldness?
where are you dedollarization gang?
You have successfully outed yourself as a lib, unfortunately
Isn't multicam only worn by the AFU?
She's an airsofter who apparently trolled ukroids by posing as a stunning and brave ukrainian woman fighting against orcs before coming out as a Russian Zigga
mods = gods>>1028689
not banning those things is "right wing" according to some of those posters. amazing stuff
Just like that Irish dude who scammed a bunch of people out of Patreon money by buying a bunch of milsurp gear and taking photos in the woods, pretending to be a foreign volunteer for Ukraine.
Stress? Bad luck?
We really out here bro. The biggest news was actually this though: >>1028193
I think it is partly that Russia is buying much less or 0 Western goods, but profiting even more off of oil as they are selling it at a discount but in massive quantities to India and China. Something similar might be happening with fertilizer. So money is still coming in, but Russians are not using it to buy Western currencies because they can't, so they hold rubles.
not yet Germany but something is brewing imho. People are unusually quiet
So which is it? Lib, nazi or fascist?
>>1028772>not banning those things is "right wing" according to some of those posters. amazing stuff
Liberal conceptions of the political spectrum are all fucked up due to how neoliberalism and its crisis isn't a coherent way to divide left and right. The progression of capitalism can be such a way, but its stagnation and the subsequent 'democratic' defense of what has been accumulated is not. Liberalism is dying exactly because it defends nothing democratic and can only deflect to the right. This method is running on fumes.
We tell liberals we won't support capital and the state because it's right wing and they'll cuck on their principles to protect these two. That's exactly what has happened since the mid 2010s, just this process has been framed in fighting the petit bourgeois right wing.
This is an inversion from what liberal republics dealt with in immaturity.
all three mean the same thing. you are in the right wing.
>>1028832>Dedicated to inspiring Zeething ITT
Inspired by your dedication o7>>1028835>Brainlet that thinks liberalism = fascism
And this is all because of a single geopolitical position of me opposing Russia, yes?
You don't oppose Russia, you oppose *Russians*. You have made that quite clear the last time you earned your well-deserved time out.
You think Russians are the problem in the east, and it's exactly that belief which has bridged the gap between liberalism and ethnic nationalism.
I dare you to quote me where I specifically oppose Russians as an ethnicity and not Russia as an imperialist state. And no, calling a spade a spade by pointing out how an 80% German area turned into 80% Russian area over the course of a few dacades isn't Russophobia.
Implying Russians are an artificial import population distorting and dividing a region is indeed a form of ethnic chauvinism that has led to a cultural genocide in Donbass.
>>1028848>Russia as an imperialist state
cool opinion you have there bro
Where have I daid Russians as a people are a problem? Time and time again I said that to me Russia and Putin is no different to Second Reich and Kaisser Willy. Would I say Germans are most to blame for WW1? Yes. Do I think krauts are evil and should be forced to Americanize their surnames? Hell no.
The B*ltic is immunized from all insults. Call him a liberal, a nazi, a fascist, a russophobe - it all runs off him like rainwater off a coat. But call him an American puppet and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how he slinks back - "I've been found out".
This was originally due to denazification lol
You proceed with your prepackaged argument responses when I didn't even made any argument about this being some divide and conquer. I am by no means an expert on what happened in Konigsberg, but the fact that it was an ethnic cleansing is irefutable just by the way that populations shifted. As for Donbass, that is totally different because, to my knowladge, Russians actually have a long-time historic home there, and cases of Russian industrial towns in non-Russian countries of USSR is just a result of soviets needing someone to opperate the factories for which the locals lacked expertise.
Stop trying to strawman to me shit I don't say.
Do you believe the crisis in the east is caused by the contradictions of rapid European expansion being explained away as the incomplete struggle against Soviet/Russian history which, in the absence of the USSR and Russian empire, means struggling against ethnic Russians? Or do you believe it's Russia wanting clay from the small, free European nations because it's jealous of civilization and feels humiliated?
So you would argue that genocide is ok when used against citizens of an ex-fascist country?
I believe its a mix of many things. Ukranian gas reserves making it a must-have for both empires, US expansion infringing on Russian imperial sphere and threatening its power projection and MAD assurance, Russian geopolitical desire for more control of the Black Sea, and, at the very tail end, the supposed ideological reasons both sides present of Ukraine wanting to defend its clay or Russia wanting to defend the poor Afghani urban wome- I mean Russian minorities.
i heard they have higher quality shit in france than most other countries, but i dont eat shitty fast food so cant confirm
>>1028867>Putin invaded Ukraine for the gas
Most retarded take I've seen from you yet and I still have a screen of you downplaying Azov and calling them merely nationalists.
You fuck, you idiot, you absolute illiterate ape!IT'S WATER FROM A DUCK NOT A COAT GOD DAMN IT!
It really is hard to tell at this point whether worldnews is the way it is because of glowposting/glowvoting or whether liberals are going completely and utterly insane now that Atlanticist rule is coming to an end
Probably both tbh
Yes? Are you one of those people who thinks US invaded Iraq because it wanted the gas? You dolt, it's not about the gas, it's about the control of the gas. Ukraine would provide the gas to Europe and make Russia's political power gas invalid to Europe. That's why its a vital piece for both empires to control, or, worst case, to destroy and thus deny it to the enemy.
As I said before. I am a fan of unipolarity. If I could spin a completely equal 3 side wheel that would end up giving the entire world over the influance of US, Russia or China, I'd spin it in a heartbeat. Because multipolarity means an eventual world war, and its delusional to think it wouldn't be of apocalyptic proportions.
Did you not to apologize for the blockade of Kaliningrad as the vatuyghurs not belonging there in the first place?
What I've noticed starting a few months ago is you are incapable of placing reactionary European imperialism and its victims *first* even though history demands it thanks to the way it has developed since WW1. I suspect this is because you benefit from this imperialism. You instead demand an ahistorical equivalency so you have a space to push back and vent some kind of disdain for Russians as imperialists in a necessarily essentialist sense given how history has developed. If you aren't given that, you just troll about how this thread is aiding that imperialism essential to the Russian soul because our historical theories are blind to it. This really came out when Lithuania threatened to blockade Kaliningrad.
If you value stability and maintenance of the status quo above all else, then you're a lib. No socialist defends american hegemony.
the US and the USSR didn't have a world war tho….
Meant as a serious reply to >>1028858>Azov as mere nationalists
ULTRAnationalists. This isn't some downplaying just me being autistic about terminology. Because to me the word nazi doesn't mean shit, its just a term and a piss poor way to measure evil. Thatcher wasn't a nazi, yet in many ways was historically worse than Hitler.
For me, Nazi, or more accurately, fascist, means a very specifc kind of movement - not some nationalist genocidal shitheads killing civilians for ethnic reasons, but a middle class reactionary movement defined by it formation from imperial defeat and its historic position being one of tilting the battle where communists would have one back into capitalist favor, aka, like Germany or Italy.
Azov aren't nazies for the same reason the genocidal Baathists, Grey Wolves or Balkan Chetnik or Ustashe larpers in the 90's weren't nazi.
Okay so youre a liberal and a retard and also wrong on multiple counts
>>1028890>I suspect this is because you benefit from this imperialism
You're a suburban burger who benefits from imperialism too lmao, that's why you only started getting mad at imperialism after 2016 when "liberalism ceased to be progressive" after your preferred rightoid shit wasn't able to totally capture the US state. Bitch you ain't fooling anyone, I hope you "realign" with some fashoids and get purged.
They have literal swastika tattoos and shoot minorities while shouting about their superior bloodline. Noone cares about your contrived definitions to absolve tem.
>>1028904>They have literal swastika tattoos
Lel this. WTF? Someone post that video where the Nazi guy in WW2 is getting offended at being called a Nazi.
he made me unironically racist against Balts. Which arent even a race but often German so fuck them twice.
so whats your local azov ? UNLY or smth ? i guess youre proud of how they defend your national identity, those totally not nazis
>not some nationalist genocidal shitheads killing civilians for ethnic reasons, but a middle class reactionary movement defined by
how is that incompatible, and why do you restrict it solely to historical reasons rather the role they fulfill>>1028896
thats no shield, thats a ligthning rod
>>1028895>theyre not Nazis, theyre just ultranationalists who happen to really like Hitler, get swastika tattoos, do roman salutes, write 1488 on their equipment, and murder ethnic minorities for being inferior! Totally different!
And you wonder why you were banned lmao
Is this guy Lavrov? That was ice cold.
Hailing Hitler and tatooing 1488 on your penis doesn't make you a nazi, the same way that joining Austin Maoists doesn't suddenly make you a Red Guard.(absolute state)
I dunno, we just laugh at the skinheads when they make their yearly King Mindaugas day, then forget they exist.
are you doing that pedantic thing where that since they are not literally part of the NSDAP they are not actually
So nobody can be a Nazi since that party doesn't exist anymore?
The ones in WW2 were. The Balkan War ones were just larper ethno-nationalists. Were they shitty? Yes. Were they comparable to NSDAP? In no way.
Yes and no. They aren't nazies because the socio-economic and geopolitical background has practically nothing to do with NSDAP. In all honesty Azov is more comparable to ISIS, as an idealists reactionary project sponsored by foreign powers, except with ethnicity replacing religion.
Didn't we have a Pole poster here before? I guess I got confused because he uses the Papiez flag.
I mean I sort of get what you are saying. You do have to recognize how fascism was unique, it was connected to imperialism and this idea of how fighting its wars achieves a national rebirth. There's plenty of reactionary nationalisms before it which preach ethnic chauvinism and war but not that kind of stuff.
But the problem is Azov uses the symbol of a neonazi party, the predecessor of Svoboda, and believes in basically finishing the battle of nazi collaborators against Russians to save the nationalist revolution of 2014. What you say makes sense in arguing that Ukraine is not a fascist state, and it's why I call it a nationalist dictatorship. But Azov, perhaps individually it can be neonazi
If you ever saw my more /itg/ related posts, you'd know I gatekeep leftism as well.
I guess I'd agree to some extent, but I would still say that ultranationalism fits far better. Neonazism in my eyes is more of a lumpen, usually criminalist ideology, a la aryan brotherhood. Meanwhile Azov, while using nazi symbolism, pursue what is very much a common ethnonationalist goal of removing ethnic minorities, which, again, in my eyes tents them in with such groups as Balkan or Turk paramilitaries.
Would you not agree that it is better to use terms that properly describe the essance of a thing, rather than describing its basic outline? This seriously reminds me of arguments with poljacks about marxists terms where they throw a hissyfit each time you mention use value being seperate from labour value.
Lumpen hooligan miscreants are hardly nazies.
>>1028939>Neonazism in my eyes is more of a lumpen, usually criminalist ideology, a la aryan brotherhood.
Azov was literally founded by arming some militant football ultras and skinheads, and releasing some nazi from jail to take charge of them. So the glove fits here.
Right so just to be clear you are just restating the Marxist theory of fascism of as liberalism imploding, the petit bourgeoisie being unleashed on the proletariat by the bourgeoisie to crush a revolution, and the whole nation being mobilized by the state as an organism to reclaim wartime unity and fight out imperialist antagonisms to national supremacy and the rebirth it promises
Is it not possible for Azov to be an ideologically nazi unit, vanguard in an ethnic conflict to protect a nationalist revolution, but not fill this fascist function? In which case from the perspective of Russians there is little distinction?
This is what it looks like when the bourgeoisie are in power.
Imagine this happening in China, lmao
luv me sum V-6yprep
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) But at what cost?
Mods plz re-ban this Rtard
They belong in the pit regardless. As do all the libs in your country for trying to start ww3 over Kaliningrad.
I thought we were talking about Konigsberg
>>1028864>ethnic exile is genocide
Ukraine Interior Ministry adviser Anton Gerashchenko has shared footage of a Ukrainian female soldier, bearing a swastika-like symbol.
The soldier, who apparently returned from the frontlines of the ongoing conflict with Russia, is seen reunited with her daughter and is giving her toy unicorns. Amid the emotional reunion, a swastika-style patch – a rounded solar cross with additional elements – can be clearly seen on the woman’s backpack. Similar emblems were used by several Waffen-SS units in Nazi Germany during WW2.
“This is what we are fighting for,” Gerashchenko captioned the video.https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.rt.com/russia/557701-ukraine-adviser-soldier-swastika/https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1539659648390746112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Every fucking time
Looks like the wulfsangel
Bro is it really that bad? Is every single ukranian soldier sus?
>>1029075>a swastika-like symbol.
No that just is
Bitches really do be thinking only swastika is the exact ones the nazis used.
Eh, it's a reverse Broken Sun. Similar to the official symbol of the Thule Society.
>>1029086>this guy molests kid
BOOOOOO!>…but in chynah
It's not the North or the South sideNo it's not
It's not the East or the West side No it's not!It's the Dark SideYou are correct
What a blast from the past.
>what is thy bidding my master? >it's a disaster, Skywalker we're after >and what if he'd turn to the dark side?>yes, he'd be a powerful ally…another dark jedi >he will join us or die >WE GOT DEFF STAR>WE GOT DEFF STAR
And who's gonna be wielding that shield?
DUN DUN DUUUUUN!Germany makes major announcement on NATO<Chancellor Scholz has promised to make the Bundeswehr the “biggest conventional army” among European NATO member states https://www.rt.com/news/557679-german-chancellor-military-eastern-europe/
>>1028903>after your preferred rightoid shit wasn't able to totally capture the US state
People keep saying this but I have never seen Sandinista anon advocate for a red-brown alliance or anything like that.
I believe it when I see it. Those cowardly reddit-types that fill our youth will surely scare the eternally decadent Russians. We can have the best equipments all that shit. Either they draft a jannissary force of hardened immigrants or theyll - well - have a manpower problem.
I am sure the Swedes too love to see their armed forces in action and in fact so do I!
I have kind of a political record and wondered whether I should just apply to the military for giggles. If they say yes they literally dont find anybody else that has a clean record, and if they say no then I can proudly return that favour. Its win win. Dont worry id over my dead body not rly join em.
They could make up the difference with EU nationals, just make a special branch of the military for it and the poorer countries' soldiers will flock there for the pay hike. Foundation for an EU army?
Then again this is the EU/Germany so they're bereft of any ideas that would upset anything.
i always watch this in full whenever it gets posted
thats true. Fuck. Theyll propably do that. If they can anyway, I think they overstretched the board a bit. EU is all wonderful when we have money but once it runs dry, just look what they did to my poor boy Greece. Not that they coined the term of Europe or anything.
they propably straight up take Ukrainians for that. But I shall blame nobody before that actually happens.
He just says that because I equated the division of the world between liberal and illiberal with nationalist and globalist as bourgeois realignments you must reject. This is significant since it implies these are divisions of the ruling class which divide the workers, which is acceptable when we say this about the right but not about liberals (this is why saying 'liberalism is no longer progressive' will summon him). The latter implies the liberal side in the culture war etc also divides the revolutionary class, which must mean some part of MAGA is part of it. So he tried to accuse me of supporting a red brown alliance by recalling when I trolled him or someone like him after I was called a tulcel for complaining about liberals in the USA thread.
So he tries to track me down on the internet because he thinks he got a whiff of a Claremont conspiracy to turn berniebros into trumpbots. And then he agrees with my assessments of the situation after 2016 anyway. That's why we don't debate anymore.
You could even save some money on it too, peg the wage to EU average (or lower) rather than the standard German military rate and you'll find a new exciting way to exploit the Mediterranean and Balkans. Maybe even make it a path to citizenship for the Turks! They'd all have to speak English though.
interesting. I can assure you theyre trash. We have like 200 tanks that are ready to be deployed, officially. Parts of those get sent around so everytime a politican visits he can look at them in awe how polished it is. I can assure you, Bundeswehr wouldnt even make it through a single week of fighting.
just look at this shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Air_Force
And out only mobile AA vehicle is older than a T-60 plus officially left to rust. We have no new model, no way. Maybe in 5 to 10 years theyre able to put our AA fixed towerhead onto a tracked car, I wouldnt bet on it tho.
Its genuinely funny.
I beg you Russia. The evil Scholz is starving my children. Pls deliver heavy weaponry.
Don't worry, Scholz has been dodging supporting Ukraine that even Azov Something got mad about and made a video.
That was incredible buuut I hope it doesnt give the hawks more ammunition (lol) to actually wrap our packages and put them in the mailbox :'(
>>1029245>Germany ‘flabbergasted’ at Poland’s accusation of broken promise on tankshttps://www.politico.eu/article/berlin-flabbergasted-poland-accusation-broken-promise-tank/>“There was a clear request from the Polish side to transfer state-of-the-art Leopard 2A7 main battle tanks to Poland, but the problem is that the Bundeswehr itself only has a small number — about 50 — of these tanks,” he said, adding that while “more are in the pipeline, they are not standing on a car yard or factory site anywhere; they have to be manufactured.”
You have nothing to send, anyway.
That was a good one. They sent a few old tanks into Ukraine cause theyre mad like that and expected to get the shiniest new Leopard4LGBTI-Urban edition Plainum for that. That wasnt the deal tho. Us Germans are rly the masters of smallprint
Now sorry I spammed you enough. Have a good day. Dont mind my shit, I only try to give you an inside perspective. I promise you that I am hated for saying the quiet part loud here
Yeah, given demographic trends and environmental degradation, I don't really forsee countries like Germany and Japan really being able to afford remilitarizing and rearming themselves.
Death row UK fighter in Donbass warns family about ‘time running out’Aiden Aslin has told his relatives that his death sentence in the Donetsk People’s Republic will likely go ahead
British national Aiden Aslin, who was captured in the midst of fighting between Russian and Ukrainian forces in Mariupol, has told his family that his death sentence will likely be carried out.
Earlier this month, the court in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) sentenced Aslin, his compatriot Shaun Pinner, and Moroccan Saaudun Brahim, to death. The three men, who fought on the Ukrainian side, were found guilty of mercenarism, terrorist offenses and attempting to overthrow the government of the republic.
Aslin’s family told the BBC on Wednesday that he called them on the phone and said he had been warned by DPR representatives that his “time is running out.”
“There are no words; just no words. It’s got to be everyone’s worst nightmare to have a member of your family threatened in this way,” the fighter’s grandmother, Pamela Hall, said.
She told the outlet Aslin was “extremely upset” while talking to his mother. “The bottom line is Aiden has said the DPR has told him nobody from the UK has made contact, and that he will be executed,” she said.
“I have to believe what Aiden has said to us, that if the DPR don’t get some response then they will execute him. Obviously, I hope that isn't true,” Hall added.
She also said she believed “contact should be made between the UK and Russia” regarding her grandson’s fate.
British authorities approached the Kremlin about Aslin and Pinner earlier this week. But, according to Russian ambassador to the UK Andrey Kelin, the message from London was “written in extremely arrogant, instructive terms. It doesn’t make us want to cooperate on these issues.”
Moscow insists London should talk directly to the Donetsk People’s Republic about its citizens, but the UK has been reluctant to do so as it doesn’t recognize the DPR’s independence.
British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss, who says that Aslin and Pinner should be treated as POWs, not mercenaries, has called their trial in Donetsk a “sham judgment with absolutely no legitimacy.”
The UK fighters’ hopes to be released as part of a prisoner swap between Russia and Ukraine have been shattered by the DPR’s head, Denis Pushilin. The official said last week that he saw no grounds to pardon the foreigners, who “came to Ukraine to kill civilians for money.”
In his interview with RT earlier this month, Aslin revealed that he felt abandoned by both London and Kiev, saying that all of his attempts to contact the Ukrainian authorities from captivity have been in vain.
The 28-year-old claimed that he regretted becoming “a political pawn in the military system.” He also said that the Kiev government had the chance to end the conflict with Russia, “but they chose not to, mainly because I think money was involved.”https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.rt.com/news/557699-aslin-mercenary-ukraine-uk/
damn where is this picture
UK inmate on death row in Indianesia: "they will never kill me, I am from Britain." (executed 2 days later)
When Russia welcomes Xi Jinping he feeds him caviar pancake, white wine and vodka.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5qZoT6bbJo
When USA welcomes important people they feed him burger from fast food restaurant and coke.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4srhes1-g0
Which country is civilized? Which country is barbaric?
I had thought that the DPR did state they received a letter from the UK, but the contents were essentially daring them to kill him. Sorry chap, you’re more useful to the Anglo psychological operations wing as a martyr.
wine and vodka>coke
Given how frequently and aggressively English teachers in China would brag about seeing their female students as nothing but fuckable objects and the contempt they held for their male ones, I’m inclined to believe he is guilty. In fact it’s easy to find this attitude openly expressed even today on mainstream websites like Reddit.
The boys at the Exile were right when they predicted that Germany and Russia’s role in WWII would be reversed by Anglo history and eventually Russia will be blamed for the holocaust.
wolfsangel within a swastika no less
Remember how Ukrainians hated being called "the Ukraine"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthography
I just noticed that Western media started calling Russia "the Russia">Last month McDonald's announced the closure of all restaurants in the Russiahttps://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-61774950
lol. If pettyness would win wars it would have been over in 3 days.
death to all bureaucrats
>>1028945>Lumpen hooligan miscreants
these uyghas literally made up the rank and file of the Sturmabteilung, theres a reason lumpen have no revolutionary potential
>>1029376>brought war back to europe after almost 8 decades of peace
asiatic balkans get fucked lmao
>>1029376>Russia lost 30K men
Where did they get this info from?
The fucking Ukraine military?
Disgusting cope. I hate westoids so much more than I hate Putin.
It's hard not to feel disgust and pity for their attempts to self-induce schizophrenia and live in total delusion
lol megacope: the video
Why would putin want slovokia if he wanted to return the soviet union? why would having ukraine and the baltics = a new soviet union? who wrote this? A hearts of iron mod team?
just to name a few famöus socialist countries
but ""Australia"" is a serious country with a vibrant history and eeeeh kangoroos and shit
Funny, that's how we say it in Yorgostania.https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumunija
>>1029291>the message from London was “written in extremely arrogant, instructive terms. It doesn’t make us want to cooperate on these issues.”
Wish I could read it.>>1029303
That was John Scripps, four days before being hanged in Singapore.
>>1029441>the message from London was “written in extremely arrogant, instructive terms. It doesn’t make us want to cooperate on these issues
YOU RELEASE HIM OR ELSE! YES WELL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE YOUR LIVES MISERABLE YOU BARBARIC FUCKS BUT THE QUEEN IS BERY ANGRY AND SHE WILL GET YOU ONLY WAIT FOR GREATEST BRITAIN GOD SAVE THE QUEEN HAIL H-
EU grants Ukraine candidate status
The leaders of 27 EU member states have also accepted the bid of Moldova
“European Council has granted the status of candidate country to Ukraine and Moldova. Historic moment and a signal of hope for the Ukranian (sic) people,” Bettel tweeted.
President of the European Council Charles Michel hailed the decision as a “historic moment”. While Georgia fell short of getting a candidate status, the bloc recognized “the European perspective” of the country, Michel explained, adding that the European Council “is ready to grant candidate status once the outstanding priorities are addressed.”https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.rt.com/news/557692-european-council-grants-candidate-status-ukraine/
I guess theyre in full "what do you wanna do Putler, he?! he?!" mode but thats just so suicidal
when will keev fall
These motherfuckers really couldn't cope with Atlanticism ending? We all need to die for their hubris, including them?
It's candidate status which is a huge meme. Turkey has it too and it's an open secret they're never actually joining.
I am pretty optimistic that Atlanticism is unsalvageable now, but dont make yourself a rough time but hoping it immediately ends. It will end tho, by Ulbricht.>>1029515
true but it keeps Libs on the copium pipe for another few days. Not even once my friend
well yeah Miami police posted it on their public instagram or twitter account
That's some shit prices. Why don't they buy retail like the rest of us?
The background noises and infantile imagery are unbearable.
circle swastika around the outside
that's just a nuke lol, fake?
cause the explosion is too big and it doesn't look quite right in general
Nope. If they can't have the world, nobody can. Or did you think the kulak mentality stopped at some point among the bourgeoisie?
What the fuck do you mean too big? Too big for what? Huge ass non-nuclear bombs exist.
That is the most goofy CGI I’ve ever seen. Get your eyes checked.
big bombs not real
wake up sheeple
Even vidya james understand that there's supposed to be a thunderclap after the explosion, idiot.
Vid 1 <Ukrainian soldiers being nearly hit by some kind of explosive ammunition
Vid 2<Something got bombed in Kharkov
Vid 3<Some Ukrainian soldiers stay in trench despite realizing a drone has spotted them overhead(?) End up dead
Vid 4<Aftermath of failed assassination attempt on Yuri Turul, Russian appointed provisional mayor of Chernobaevka, Khersonhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-proxy-leader-in-kherson-region-hurt-in-attempted-hit-as-ukrainian-partisans-vow-revengehttps://ria.ru/20220622/proisshestvie-1797305343.html
all of these are fake CGI
the smoke immediately rises from the ground, far away from the impact point
i believe most faces i see after skimming through this video are known Azov btw, one of them is a lead commander
What did the heli flights achieve exactly? Were they able to get out Azov commanders, possible NATO specialists and other Western personnel out or something?
I don't get the connection to Trump?
why were the baltic states bimbofied
also bimbo putin
Magatards used it to keep their posters from getting ripped down. Someone booby trapped a lawn sign, too.
also why is Putin bright pink colored
How's the situation in Zolote looking? Heard it's fully encricled now, some even say that the Russians have already taking it.
thats how they draw white people you dont like
that one is actually funny though
Kyrgyzstan is peak pseud fuel.
kyrgyzstan has the best central asian flag though
Know your audience. The Americans watching this garbage are manchildren.
No, it's arms depot exploding. There's a lot of explode-y stuff inside depots, you see, so missile hitting it produces a huge explosion
>>1029818>Anyone that disagrees with Dugin is clearly influenced by da Joos.
Not a very subtle dogwhistle you wrote at the end of your post. Try making an actual argument instead of fighting a bullshit strawman you made up from your imagination.
Odessa more than likely I think the Russians have signaled as much
>>1029834>>Anyone that disagrees with Dugin is clearly influenced by da Joos.
I thought it was "Anyone that AGREES with Dugin is clearly influenced by da Joos."
if you call the west satan, how are you a joo?
Mostly because Dugin is deemed anti-white by /pol/tards due to his (correct) views that the white race is an anglo construct meant to divide the world, thus needs to be abolished.
Of course, reactionaries interpret it as that Dugin wants to genocide le white people, so they think he's jewish pawn or some shit.
Dugin is just trying to repurpose Soviet anti-imperialism for a rightoid audience, justifying it with a bit of Heideggerian philosophy. The issue isn't just that he is a fascist (which he is) but that he's entirely superfluous. Communist anti-imperialism is already leagues better than whatever nonsense Dugin comes up with.
Is called "Anglo-Saxon" for a reason, breh.
In a 1999 interview for a Polish "Fronda" Dugin explains: "In Russian Orthodox christianity a person is a part of the Church, part of the collective organism, just like a leg. So how can a person be responsible for himself? Can a leg be responsible for itself? Here is where the idea of state, total state originates from. Also because of this, Russians, since they are Orthodox, can be the true fascists, unlike artificial Italian fascists: of Gentile type or their Hegelians. The true Hegelianism is Ivan Peresvetov – the man who in 16th century invented the oprichnina for Ivan the Terrible. He was the true creator of Russian fascism. He created the idea that state is everything and an individual is nothing". Source: "Czekam na Iwana Groźnego" [I'm waiting for Ivan the Terrible]. 11/12 (in Polish). Fronda. 1999. p. 133. Retrieved 23 February 2015..
It's not even that he appropriates Soviet anti-imperialism, which is a materialist theory. It's that he's pomo as fuck and thinks the three major modernist ideologies - liberalism, fascism, and communism - are false, that theres no progression towards one rational world and there's just various cultures and spiritualisms violated by modern forces emanating from places like the Atlantic and China. He's basically someone so reactionary they can't be a fascist, which is why the fascists didn't like Evola.
this is maybe peak Angloid brain. We may never get higher than this
>>1029874http://www.columbia.edu/~lmg21/ash3002y/earlyac99/documents/observations.html>And since Detachments of English from Britain sent to America, will have their Places at Home so soon supply'd and increase so largely here; why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion f ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.
You are correct, because it's a quote from an article he wrote whining about German immigrants.
china has this concept of one king under heaven. china was fascist for some 5k years? youre a marx groupie but cant seem to understand some cultures favor the group over the "me myself and i" mind set that is solely a western thing
It's more like seeing the nation as an organic whole that's key to fascist thinking. I don't believe that's really compatible with like, the dynastic ties of a feudal empires. There's the complementary roles of a hierarchy, to be sure.
Fascism in China seems limited historically to the Blue Shirts and sometimes Chiang Kai Shek before the war with Japan severed ties to Germany
wow, things don't ever change
It's kinda weird how the whole anglicisation of the non-WASP europeans is brushed under the rug in US history. Like, there's been millions of immigrants from various european countries, yet all of them can only speak english and there's 0 trace of their native languge to be found anyhere? You'd think the average people would be asking more questions about that, considering lots of americans push that "melting pot of cultures" talking point.
every culture is Westernized shlock now (le 'globohomo') so it's easier to make that claim
Bruh Mr. Chen here talking straight facts right now. I love this guy.
Why not just transfer everything to the Chinese system, though?
I love how the author of this thinks that Russia broadcasting TV in the occupied territories somehow magically blocks Ukrainian broadcasts and will brainwash the people there.
Lmao. Okay I should have kept watching before posting. The guy is talking about the US responding with chemical weapons, which got destroyed decades ago and have been established as a pariah weapon.
And then he goes on to talk about a nuclear exchange breaking out and says Russia is scared of this because it would have to fight NATO conventional forces?
The absolute state of liberals.
Dude I thought yellow were the Ukrops first
Almost got a heart attack
Why do they use a different color for Lugansk ffs
you are last person on this board that should be accusing others of seething
Accusing the other side of doing the heinous thing that you do is an underrated tactic. Simple and effective
sexo-anglish rise up
why does this map use russian transcriptions for kiev and odessa, but ukrainian for everything else?
>>1028839>racist illiterate insane liberal burger calls others brainlets
Your confidence is inspiring.
So was it cope or a pog encirclement?
>>1029881>It's more like seeing the nation as an organic whole that's key to fascist thinking.
You mean seeing "the people" as an organic whole? Like making the current order a cult? Otherwise Marxism sees society as an organic whole.
clearly didn't go far enough
łobjo and solawa are the true eastern borders of g*rmany
Baltaeroservice is an aerial imaging/survey company, not a regular airline, they're probably just doing a sweep of Kaliningrad or something
Say that Brace Belden(from TrueAnon) had gone to Ukraine after Rojava to fight, for the LDPR and he was now a PoW being tried in Ukraine and facing a long sentence. Would you cheer at this wartime show trial? Would he be a "war tourist" or a "mercenary" deserving of that fate?
Or would it be a cynical political maneuver at the expense of his life?
As other anons have been saying, it's fake.
So both sides of propagandistic deboonkers agree its fake as shit and also point to the original source of the video, coming at least from back on February.
(vidrel from 27 of February)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ67hVlxM-8
He'd be a "war tourist" and maybe a "mercenary" or "unlawful combatant" still. That said I think executing these men is the wrong move. It does far more to play into the propaganda of Russian brutality than it does to serve as a deterrent.
Have you considered that DLPR is based and Ukraine is cringe
why doesn't ukraine simply call a time out so they can restock on munitions?
And the US pushed for that because the Ukrainians were otherwise selling it off dirt cheap.
Lol yeah. Um akschually it's Putin bullying countries not to sell shells to Ukraine, not Ukraine itself systematically selling off bewildering amounts of Soviet equipment throughout decades to keep its corrupt and inefficient state afloat
>>1030107>. A U.S. citizen helping to broker weapons transfers to Ukraine said he recently approached an Eastern European country to negotiate a purchase of artillery rounds. Officials in that country said they couldn’t make a deal, the man said, because the Russians had already warned that they would “kill them if they sold anything to the Ukrainians.”
Russia doesn't fuck around.
>The arms broker was interviewed on the condition of anonymity to speak frankly.
Could always be bullshit.
>The arms broker said he has had to make some weapons transfers appear as if they traveled through an unrelated country to obscure the origin of the purchase. In other cases, Ukraine thought it had a deal done, but then a buyer working on behalf of Russia swooped in at the last minute and aggressively outbid, he said
Stuntin on these broke uyghas.
>The United States and Britain have also attempted to help Ukraine obtain Soviet-era materiel, officials said, to offer more security to smaller countries who fear retaliation from Russia if they provide the weapons to Ukraine directly.
>Malyar said that “the Russians are working very hard to ensure that we can’t sign contracts for this — and then if we sign a contract, to prevent us from getting the shells delivered here.”
>Russia has long known that in a drawn-out war of attrition against Ukraine, Kyiv would risk running out of ammunition, military analysts said. Ukraine knew it was a weakness, too, but the situation didn’t become dire until Russian troops and tanks rolled across its northern, eastern and southern borders on Feb. 24. The first round of airstrikes early that morning also targeted Ukrainian ammunition stocks.
>“There were some concerns, and there were constant discussions that we need to produce the ammunition ourselves,” said Andriy Zagorodnyuk, a former Ukrainian defense minister.
>“But even if the Ukrainian government started manufacturing, the facility would’ve been destroyed by Russians on Day 1,” he added.
You don't say… I thought Ukraine Stronk? I thought colors on map?
>“Conventional wars over time come down to who has the equipment, the ammunition, the manpower,” Kofman said. “This is why fights with powers like Russia are dangerous. They are dangerous because even if the Russian military performs poorly at the beginning, and they often do … Russia is a country with substantial resources.”
I'm not performing poorly, you're performing poorly.
You know it's all bullshit because Putin fucking let Ukraine have all their military equipment from Crimea back no strings attached. There was no epic 5d chess evil mastermind MGS villain plot to weaken Ukraine over 8 years and then invade.
BECAUSE….OK? NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM YOUNG MAN.
Ukraine forces will have to leave Sievierodonetsk, says governor<Battle for city is key for Russia to establish control over the last Ukrainian-held sliver of Luhansk region>After weeks of ferocious fighting, Ukrainian forces will retreat from a besieged city in the east of the country to avoid encirclement, a regional governor said Friday.
>The governor of Luhansk, Serhiy Haidai, said Ukrainian troops had been ordered to leave Sievierodonetsk to prevent that. “We will have to pull back our guys,” he said. “It makes no sense to stay at the destroyed positions, because the number of casualties in poorly fortified areas will grow every day.”https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/24/ukraine-forces-will-have-to-leave-sievierodonetsk-says-governor
…and here's five reasons why this is a catastrophe for Russia.
>>1030120>The arms broker said he has had to make some weapons transfers appear as if they traveled through an unrelated country to obscure the origin of the purchase.
Lmao, in ordinary times that's a violation of arms control laws and gets the Feds up your ass. I love how the "rules based international order" flows away when inconvenient.
Again, Devil's advocate:>He'd be a "war tourist" and maybe a "mercenary" or "unlawful combatant" still
Well according to the Geneva Convention:https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/ihl/INTRO/375Convention (III) relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.Prisoners of warARTICLE 4
<A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
<(1) Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
<(2) Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:
<(a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
<(b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
<(c) that of carrying arms openly;
<(d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
<(3) Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
<(4) Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed model.
<(5) Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law.
<(6) Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
<B. The following shall likewise be treated as prisoners of war under the present Convention:
<(1) Persons belonging, or having belonged, to the armed forces of the occupied country, if the occupying Power considers it necessary by reason of such allegiance to intern them, even though it has originally liberated them while hostilities were going on outside the territory it occupies, in particular where such persons have made an unsuccessful attempt to rejoin the armed forces to which they belong and which are engaged in combat, or where they fail to comply with a summons made to them with a view to internment.
So, while I'm not defending the Ukrainan government, volunteers and most certainly "foreign legion" are to be considered PoW. Not that it means much since all it takes is the government recognizing a group as part of their armed forces and suddenly Mercenaries are a non-existent category. It seems rallying up behind those distinctions is very silly, because if one were to follow the letter of the Geneva convention, nobody would be excluded from having PoW status that want's to have PoW status.
But in the case of Aiden Aslin it's even easier because he was a resident of Ukraine, with a passport since he had settled there with his GF and was a member of the regular AFU. I don't think he was there for the "Anti terrorist Operation" either, the sooner I hear of him in Ukraine is 2018? Not sure, but he still would be covered by PoW status.
What I'm trying to say is that the "mercenary" and "war tourist" rhetoric is not a solid legal claim, more like moralizing propaganda and any government can pretty much arbitrarily determine PoW status on their whim and their foreign policy budget.
>>1030129>What I'm trying to say is that the "mercenary" and "war tourist" rhetoric is not a solid legal claim, more like moralizing propaganda and any government can pretty much arbitrarily determine PoW status on their whim and their foreign policy budget.
And I don't disagree with that. I mentioned "unlawful combatant" because the US and allies wiped their asses on the Geneva convention for twenty years.
Just extra-judicial killings of their own citizens. Nothing so see here. Move along.
You misunderstood the Convention, they are not PoWs.
>Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory
UK and US are not parties to the conflict, Ukraine, Russia, LPR and DPR are.>Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units
UK and US are not in imminent danger of being invaded by Russian forces. The Americans and Brits caught in Donbas are not defending their homes.>What I'm trying to say is that the "mercenary" and "war tourist" rhetoric is not a solid legal claim
It is, because the Americans and Brits aren't combatants according to Geneva Convention, Rome Statute. If they were, the media would be all over it, but they're silent on the issue of their legal standing. >But in the case of Aiden Aslin it's even easier because he was a resident of Ukraine, with a passport since he had settled there with his GF and was a member of the regular AFU.
He came there to fight, and only later got citizenship when he married a Ukrainian woman. He did it because you can't really go back to living a normal life in the UK after you've been fighting for Nazis. Most people who went over to Ukraine to fight pre-war did it with a plan to stay there permanently.
>>1030137>UK and US are not parties to the conflict, Ukraine, Russia, LPR and DPR are.
Aiden aislin has an Ukrainian passport and has been residing there at least from 2018. You can say "hes a brit" all you want but he's legally also an Ukrainian citizen and a member of the AFU before the war started.
Again, I am not saying he doesn't deserve it
just that legal arguments to refuse him PoW status are bunk. One can argue that it's hypocritical for the Ukrainian/NATO/US side to protest about "warcrimes" and sovereignty and be completely fucking right, but that doesn't make him any less entitled to PoW status, however many times you repeat he's a brit. Because he's also an Ukrainian citizen by law.
I don't blame them for being fighters and mercenaries however i have no sympathy for them as they could've chosen not to fight for fascist Azov and over 9000 US military bases in Syria but defend DPR/LPR instead, which is obviously the just cause in this conflict.
That being said DPR/LPR should leave executing helpless people to the Great Satan himself and his henchmen, killing opponents in combat is another thing. They would do themselves no favor with this, hypocrit libs would point at them "look they brought the death sentence back to Europe".
But that's self determination. If they want to execute the angloids who came to help literal nazis terrorize tem for years I van understand that.
>>1030180>But that's self determination.
So? They can also start pissing against the wind for "self determination" reasons.
>I van understand that
Killing angloids in combat should be enough vengeance, this kind of shit show doesn't help their cause at all, it just makes them look like or look worse than the fucking burgers who still practice death sentence even in civil settings. Don't look too long into the abyss etc…
>>1030176>hypocrit libs would point at them "look they brought the death sentence back to Europe".
literally who in eastern europe cares lmao. liberals are all hated either for destroying their country, not being right-wing enough, or both. I can't think of a single state in eastern europe which wouldn't do a political pogrom of liberals if they could get away with it.
Ukraine has been running out of ammunition and heavy weaponry for two months now, its relying solely on western handouts, which admittedly stalled Russia and caused them to abandon the northern offenses.
Russia is still making headway and nothing is set in stone ot course, this war can go many ways as it stands.
Not everything is about optics. They probably Just want justice done to this foreigner who came tô bomb tem. He's a murderer. Death penalty is extremely common worldwide, you can make a case against it of course, but I think this case isn't really outside the norm of most countries.
Ukrop zip gun regiment coming soon
The West gave them a lot of ATGM and SAMs but they have provided very few artillery guns and GTG missile systems. Not even 1/10th of what Ukraine had in Soviet artillery which is now almost out of ammunition.
afaik he applied for citizenship, and was still in the application process of obtaining it meaning he only had established residency. however, he was legitimately in the Ukrainian armed forces
my thoughts: Russia wants UK to come under pressure from their citizenry to negotiate terms for the commutation of death penalty, on condition they would need to recognize the DPR. i don't think it's a total bluff however, as in the event that the UK doesn't reasonably negotiate, an execution would serve as a deterrent for other mercenaries (DPR's not a signatory to Geneva, and they also recognize the war as having started in 2014).
it's very pliable, this case, in terms of the interpretation of international law imo. i think it would be a mistake to execute them, personally
also i remember reading that the UK did reach out to Russia but it was an impotent attempt
>Ambassador Andrei Kelin told Russian state media on Tuesday that British authorities had in fact reached out to Moscow regarding Aslin’s death sentence—but he said Russian authorities had refused to engage because the diplomatic note they sent was too “condescending” and “preachy.”https://www.rbc.ru/politics/21/06/2022/62b1dafe9a7947cc40d7231a
>>1030189>Not everything is about optics.
It's not about optics, libs would make it about optics.
>Death penalty is extremely common worldwide,
So? Hunger is also very common worldwide.
>but I think this case isn't really outside the norm of most countries.
It wasn't the norm in socialist countries and i wouldn't want to live in a country that practices the death sentence, because this country is likely a shithole run by a fascist junta or reactionaries close to the USA.
I'm not sure, I don't think anyone is an expert in international law here. He did come to fight the civil war in Ukraine, he did stay long enough to be a resident, not sure if that makes it okay or worse.
International law is mostly bullshit anyways, independent countries can just do whatever they want. Russia isn't even a signatory of the mercenary convention.
So what? Libs will sudeenly praise the DPR because they let them live? They're gonna demonize the russian orcs no matter what they do. Nothing will be good PR for them in western nations, maybe executing them would be good PR for their people.
I can't think of a single socialist country that didn't or doesn't allow capital punishment. I happen to live in one of the very few countries where capital punishment isn't allowed, and I can tell you it's still a shithole.
This. It doesn't matter if he got citizenship. All they care about is if he came to fight for Ukraine after a civil war started in 2014. They're going to execute him as a mercenary regardless of what status he holds with the state he joined. What they care about is that the West encouraged people to go fight, incidentally Liz Truss is an example
Personally I hope they just make this part of a pressure campaign that takes advantage of the contradiction of sending people to fight a war against a state you don't recognize. They should otherwise disappear him and put him to work rebuilding Donbass.
>>1027342>All it requires is the West creating and transferring over a full-scale army and air force-worth of heavy weapons.
Is that all? Another slam dunk from the foreign affairs department!
>>1030201>I happen to live in one of the very few countries where capital punishment isn't allowed, and I can tell you it's still a shithole.
That's rather silly, capital punishment doesn't really increase or reduce the amount of shittiness in a country.
I agree, I was replying to someone to argued it did. I can understand and respect people against the death penalty. But I won't really demonize nations who think it's moral either.
now make the video go to 2022
>>1030201>I can't think of a single socialist country that didn't or doesn't allow capital punishment.
All Warszaw pact countries except Poland either abolished the death penalty or did not practice it. >very few countries where capital punishment isn't allowed
Out of 195 countries 105 have completely abolished and 25 do not practice it, that's almost 70%.>>1030205>capital punishment doesn't really increase or reduce the amount of shittiness in a country.
It does so quite significantly, because among other things it indicates a decreased sense for the value of human life in the judiciary system as well as in the general public.
Nato is more unified than ever guys
>>1028086>Try looking up their reasons for why Africa is a civil warring shithole.
Bukharin just slipped on a banana peel I guess. The DPR and LPR are barely countries who have been fighting a war for survival, they might have a different perspective from you.
All the most populous countries have the death penalty, you're just being eurocentric, Most countries outlaw it because there are like 50 microstates in europe.
>>1030215>Nato is more unified than ever guys
This is still being said after Kissinger went to Davos to shit on our foreign policy, Erdogan is extracting concessions from the Europe who refused Turkey before he allows Europe to expand, the Russian oil ban is dividing governments including the American one, Biden is signaling negotiations for land are up to Ukraine, Macron is pushing back against war fervor that ignores a weak foundation, etc etc
NATO ain't unified. It's outdated and causing crisis as a result. Look at Russia and China, that's unified.
>>1030129>Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
pretty sure thats only applicable for ukrainians, unless you mean to tell me UK mercs took arms "on the approach of the enemy " when the evil russian got close to their home…
the point 2 should give them protection… except if you prove they were paid, and thus were mercs and not volunteers
This video by Midwestern Marx covers through their label of right opportunism the comprador ultraleft or fishhook left. In other words that tendency of the left so radical in its views of the 20th century that it returns to the 19th, which does the opposite of lumping together liberalism and the right as one reactionary force (which Marxism progressed towards in the 20th century). Hitchens, Harrington, Shachtman, Orwell, etc. This tendency got new life after the mid 2010s, as liberal export in the absence of the socialist bloc came to.a grinding halt
Arguably Gorbachev is the most famous example of this tendency, since he considered the Soviet Union pointless absent revolution in the West. Thus, the first camp was more progressive.
>>1028832>So which is it? Lib, nazi or fascist?
there is no contradiction in calling you all three
steve rosenberg is such a massive faggot. he looked like such a retard harassing lukashenko during their interview and here he is again with this trademark schtick of assaulting the interviewee with entirely fabricated accusations predicated entirely on dubious western morality, no true back-and-forth, no dialogue at all. just attacks and on to the next one once he's shut down. again, an insufferable faggot.
The article cites an "anonymous source", meanwhile we can see China and India buying russian oil at a discount.
China's interests come first of course, but they are very much aware of what divide and conquer is.
not saying it is, but that first photo looks incredibly photoshopped for some reason
That Reuters article is three months old
The US is giving Ukraine HIMARS launchers and is going to keep delivering them most likely, according to the White House.
And now that the big guns are being rolled out, it really isnt clear whats going to happen in say the next 100 days.
BUT the west isnt managing to supply Ukraine as fast as is necessary, meaning that Ukraine is being grinded to a pulp at the moment, if Russia is going to do well in the next 2 months give or take, Ukraine might lose large parts of eastern Ukraine anyway, after which HIMARS systems might not be as effective anymore.
HIMARS is more a strategic weapon for hitting things like depots. Ukraine needs tactical artillery like the M777 which they aren't getting in enough quantity to compensate for their Soviet guns having no ammo.
I suspect the issue is the West doesn't actually have sufficient quantities of arty to hand them over to Ukraine. Post-91 drawdowns were a bitch.
>>1030347>The US is giving Ukraine HIMARS launchers
But I've heard in commentary that the US isn't sending the really
long range ammo which would be a change and that even if they get a few launchers:
1. It's easy for Russia to snipe them given they seem to have free reign to drop cruise missiles anywhere in Ukraine
2. Since they are not getting the good very expensive ammo they'd have to get enormous supplies of missiles for which Ukraine has neither the means to secure the steady transit across the borders nor safely store nor the logistics to keep them flowing to the launchers
So maybe they do a big sperg, blow all their ammo before the launchers get sniped and the west makes big headlines about it but I doubt sending a dozen or whatever MRLS that Ukraine can't even make ammo for are gonna change the war.
Serbs do be like that
HIMARS have a range of 50km. They can fire on the approaching Russian troops and armoured vehicles. They cannot hit targets that would make a difference. Besides, as soon as they fire rockets, Russians will know where they are and will wipe them out with Iskanders.
US and NATO countries are sending equipment to Ukraine to enrich the weapons manufacturing industry, not to actually help Ukrainians.
Yeah, those mean Donetsk civilians bullying their artillery shells with their bodies and apartment buildings like that. ;_;
They wouldn’t use a ballistic missile against a truck mounted artillery system. The truck can just move. They’d use counter battery artillery or ground units to take out the launchers.
https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-russia-ukraine-gas-flows-nordstream-pipeline-shortages-2022-6Germany fears Russia will permanently shut its main gas pipeline within weeks<Germany's economy minister said Thursday he fears Russia will soon shut his country's main gas pipeline.>In an interview with German broadcaster ZDF Thursday, Robert Habeck said: "I would have to lie if I said I didn't fear that."
>The pipeline in question, Nord Stream 1, is the main pipeline transporting natural gas to Germany from Russia. Germany is the world's top importer of Russian gas, which it needs for 35% of its supply — but that supply has been under threat since Russia invaded Ukraine in February.
>Nord Stream 1 is due to shut down on July 11 for 10 days of scheduled maintenance. Klaus Mueller, head of Germany's natural gas network, suggested Friday that flows wouldn't restart after the maintenance shutdown, Bloomberg reported, citing the public broadcaster ARD.
Germany: fuck you Russia, we're going to stop NS2, and sanction your gas. We will cut you off!
Russia: OK *shuts off gas*
Germany: Nooooo, you can't do that! Terrorists! Savages! Orcs! Aaaargh!
Am I crazy or is this what Germany wanted? Or did they think that they would be able to dictate when Russia shuts it off?
They can just destroy them when they park in a mall for the night. :) Russian drones will just follow them like they do, and then once they're parked, boom.
pls do it. Make them suffer. I know that isnt pro-worker, but people dont learn if they always get a cheap way out after the deadline
no its likely that we even have to pay anyway in the next 10 years. Its all quite a fuck up.
If you know the Germans - were the most apathetic people in the world until we're disturbed from sitting comfily in front of the tv. The one thing you rly dont want to have as a German goverment is high gas and food prices.
All the other bullshit we can ignore and pretend away.
>>1030971>I know that isnt pro-worker, but people dont learn if they always get a cheap way out after the deadline
it's pro-worker on the long term, because people will learn from this and start hating their own gov.
>>1030994>start hating their own gov
the real problem here is which way radicalization would go
absolutely true but we cant fight for status quo forever and thats what Libs want from us. Clean the dirt they create themselves.
At this point Libs and Nazis - theres a thin line maybe but nobody needs to explain me anymore how people could believe what Goebbels told them, lol.
The old order seems to die so or so, I dont think we're to blame. I fucking wish people would have heard before but they loved the US and Netflix and Biden and Reddit so fucking very much. Now kiss.
Zelensky plans to fire Ukraine’s top spy – Politico
Bakanov, who has been at Zelensky’s side since high school and served as his manager during his early days as a comedian, has allegedly drawn the ire of the Ukrainian leader over his alleged unprofessionalism. Zelensky reportedly blames Bakanov for allowing a string of mishaps and mass desertions in his agency since the start of Russia’s military offensive against the country and is now looking to replace him with someone “more suitable to serve as the wartime chief of the SBU.”
Kiev authorities have reportedly been “very unsatisfied” with Bakanov’s performance as the nation’s top spy and have been actively trying to “get rid of him,” according to a top Ukrainian official who spoke with Politico on the condition of anonymity.
“We are not satisfied with his managerial, you know, [skills] because now you need … anti-crisis management skills like we don’t think that he has,” the anonymous official was quoted as saying, since there are people in Kiev who reportedly blame Bakanov for failing to respond to Russia’s military offensive on February 24.https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.rt.com/news/557766-zelensky-to-fire-sbu-head/
sounds like you guys need a strong leader who will whip things back into shape and restore your national pride.
true but sadly Ulbricht is dead :(
Russian lawmaker predicts fate of US dollar
Russia will have no use for the US dollar in the foreseeable future, according to the head of the State Duma Financial Market Committee, Anatoly Aksakov.
The lawmaker explained that Western sanctions against Russia make it impossible for the country to purchase many American and European goods, which “makes their currencies useless.”
“Maybe, no one will need the dollar at all because of such American policies. And the ruble will be in demand. We are already selling gas for rubles. The President [Vladimir Putin] recently signed a decree allowing payments of foreign debt in rubles. We don’t need dollars if we can’t spend them,” Aksakov said.
Earlier this week, President Putin signed a decree establishing a temporary procedure for sovereign debt repayments. The bond-payment procedure mirrors the ruble scheme proposed by Moscow for sales of Russian gas in response to sanctions imposed by many Western states.https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.rt.com/business/557760-us-dollar-russia-sanctions/
a leader with half the international capital backing him and bailing his ass out after he fucks up, i presume?
Did he really hire his high school friend as chief of the security service?
its funny how much politics is just foot-in-the-door-tactic.
Now that EU is already paying gas in ruble, it rly has no easy time saying "but we wont pay for anything else in ruble *smugface*" and of cause that will be mercilessly used.
Same in the other way - if the US sends a single troop into Ukraine and the Russians dont immediately shot him, theyll come with the whole army a day later.
Its all probing how far you can go. Which is scary af, but also very interesting to observe.
You don't need 12ft.io for RT, just use open and public nameservers, not your default ISP ones.
12ft.io is kinda shit, because they have a deal with Business Insider where they don't remove BI's paywall.
I think the Russians should do a nuclear test every other day cause I can promise y'all that the west wouldnt be that bold in that case. But they dont want to replenish houndreds of nukes and who even knows ehther they can.
Fuck around and find out policy
yeah and Russia could in my opinion risk a bit more. The verocity of NATO is unheard of. But theyre winning so you wont hear me complaining, in general they seem to know what they do after that fuckup of the first 3 weeks.
tbh i have much less sympathy for these guys than the dumbass reddit legion. I can at least understand how those retards were brainwashed to think they were doing the right thing after seeing Russia invade, but this fat fucking angloid war tourist joined just to murder people in the Donbass and thats a fact jack
US drones won’t survive over Ukraine for long – Foreign Policy
As Washington reportedly stalls on selling Gray Eagle combat drones to Ukraine, military officials in Kiev are asking for fighter jets such as the F-15 and F-16 instead, saying they have a better chance against Russian air defenses.Ukraine is “not Afghanistan” and the expensive drones would just get shot down, one pilot told Foreign Policy this week.
Retired US officers and pundits like Moscow-born Max Boot have loudly advocated for the delivery of Gray Eagles to Ukraine, calling it a potential “game changer” in the conflict. However, the White House has put plans to send four such drones to Kiev “on hold,” Reuters reported last week, due to fears they could fall into Russian hands.
While the Ukrainian generals would like to get their hands on the drones, the pilots would prefer US fighter-bombers, according to Foreign Policy.
“We are not advocating for the Gray Eagles,” one pilot, who went only by ‘Moonfish’, told the outlet. “It’s very dangerous to use such expensive drones in our case, because of the enemy’s air defense,” he added. “It’s not Afghanistan here.”
The MQ-1C Gray Eagle is the latest in the General Atomics lineage of strike drones used during the US “war on terror,” from Afghanistan and Iraq to Somalia and Yemen. It is armed with Hellfire missiles, which have a range of about eight kilometers – less than the Switchblade or Phoenix Ghost suicide drones the US has sent to Ukraine already.
“It could be useful” on the frontline, said another fighter pilot, introduced as ‘Juice’. However, he added, the Gray Eagles would probably not survive for more than a mission or two. Each drone costs $10 million.
Ukraine has made a big deal out of having Turkish Bayraktar TB2 strike drones in its arsenal. The TB2 costs around $2 million or so. Moonfish claims they were “very useful and important” in the early days of the conflict, but are “almost useless” now that the Russian troops have beefed up their air defenses. The pilots told Foreign Policy that Ukraine was now limiting the use of Bayraktars to “rare special operations and attack missions.” Russian war correspondents, meanwhile, suggest that it’s because most of the drones have been shot down already.
“We have a lot more pilots than jets right now,” Moonfish said, suggesting he and his colleagues should be trained on “advanced” US fighter jets such as the F-15 and F-16, which would be more survivable against the Russian S-400s.
Both types first appeared in the 1970s. They have been repeatedly upgraded since then, and the latest versions are considered by Western experts to be on par with the Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 jets, and slightly ahead of the Su-27 and Mig-29 fighters Ukraine operated at the start of the conflict. However, there are no indications the US has any to spare, or that there is political will in Washington to send them to Ukraine.https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.rt.com/russia/557712-ukraine-drones-pilots-jets/
Agressive beahavior isn't that great in current times though. There's a lot more to be gained through cooperation. Literally only the US keeps provoking countries at random.
this is the way but it might be too based for Russia
I highly doubt that NATO would be allowed to wither away because it is 'unpopular.' they would have invented another reason to keep everything as it is. Provoking Russia via Ukraine was already that, but if Russia hadn't invaded NATO would have bombed some country to keep it alive and kicking
EU sort of, NATO and Ukraine no one really thought much about until the invasion happened so that I don't think I'd call it breathing new life so much as it got back on the spotlight again. Neither of them were necessarily or even likely going to die if Russia didn't invade.
Also, being unpopular does not necessarily mean less power. Genocides and war crimes are unpopular, and that doesn't stop people from doing them, continuing them, and getting away light or even scot free
UKROPS RETREAT FROM SEVERODONETSK
SLOVIANSK NEXT, ZIGGAS
I'm sorry to tell you,but none of those three were unpopular (if you mean in first-world/western nations,obviously) outside of outliers like greece and Italy that are getting destroyed by it,and a growing vocal youth movement that is still small as most just end up giving up entirely on politics.
Don't confuse dormancy for death. The fact that this conflict activated the fascist primitive accumulative impulse in liberals so rapidly and with such force should tell you that such sentiments were hardly on the decline and were simply waiting for the appropriate catalyst to assert themselves.
Anons. UK left the EU and even in france skepticism is the thought of the day with regards to the EU.
Before tnis war Ukraine was viewed in the media as a country turning away from democratic prinsibles with a large neo nazi problem and a government that didn't have control over it's own boarders or armed forces.>>1031231
If you have nothing to say then shut the fuck up, retard.
public opinion doesn't matter, are you some idealist retard?
>>1031279>public opinion doesn't matter,
But it kind of does, and especially seemingly though the russian lens, if not why did they fund international 24hour news sources for multiple decades that was even one of the best regarded in the west?
Besides, as the current orders collapse I would rather the new wave of parties run on a renewed anti-NATO platform than some retard pro-NATO muh russia bullshit.
If this shit happened 2 years ago do you really think the brits would have left the Europeen Union?
What would be the response of NATOs Double-Track Decision by the wider left be today? Barely a whisper i'd imagine.
politicians literally care for nothing else. You can starve tomorrow if you just give em your cheer today.
Thats the power of HIMARS, Russia isnt capable of locating it in time, theyll be gone by then.
The issue is that while you need training to deploy and use HIMARS launchers, theyre very easy to use, and the US is giving a scrambled together army weapons that they could blow into Russia with while asking them not to.
Considering that Russia is currently scared shitless about its border safety with the US first attempting to establish itself in Crimea and then the EU and NATO trying to absorb a country right on their doorstep, I dont think its smart to give a big minority of paramilitary extremists a bunch of weapons they can fire on Russia.
you don't understand,here in this very site,we talk more about politics in one day than 70+% of the population does in a year.
the only reason the UK leave happened is because one of the main party advocated for it and so couldn't just be dismissed as le funny weirdo (like Asselinau in France for exemple) and they can just jump back on "we must reform the EU because it's not good,and maybe we could ignore some of the rules too" but nobody advocates for quitting it,and the only thing you will get if you did advocate for it would be critical support on the internet that doesn't translate into electoral votes,so nobody cares.
Yeah, to neutralize it and to tell people what to think. US isn't getting universal healthcare. Ever. Brexit isn't actually happening, either.
Like I mentioned, unpopularity means very little in terms of real power. Nato might be unpopular, doesn't stop it from being a threat. Ukraine might be unpopular being seen as a state with a Nazi problem, but that doesn't mean that it's not useful to America nevertheless. The war in Afghanistan was unpopular, but America stayed there for years. And even if later they're universally recognized as victims, the damage is already done and the perps get away with it. Public opinion only means something if it's organized into a militant counterforce, and there was no meaningful anti-NATO movement before the invasion anyway
The choice facing Russia was either to slowly get squeezed out of diplomatic, military, economic influence until it is in a position where they might actually not be able to win a nuclear war–or they cut their losses, decide Ukraine in NATO is the last straw, and do whatever means necessary to make sure they don't get backed into a corner. They probably succeded a little better than they expected, since I'm very sure they knew that it would be "unpopular" and that sanctions would follow (though probably not so self-destructively as with the gas thing).
Might actually not even be able to stalemate a nuclear war*, as in, being unable to fight back if America did decide to just fuck them up with nukes because of defence systems around its borders, proximity of missiles, etc
It honestly probably really did go as well as they hoped, only the US and its puppets are sanctioning Russia. They might actually benefit in the long term from moving their economy towards the east and completely giving up on the west.
oh for sure they wont! Cause people vote them anyway.
I wasn't talking about America, anon. It is easier for them they are an ocean away. I was actually thinking about Europe.
Not everything has to be always understood soulely through an American lens, this perspective only serves to cause inaction, i.e. 'ohhh, it is all america ergo we can do nothing where we are because they control everything anyways!' it is unhealthy for the left to think like this.
Worse, he hired the fucking CLOWN MANAGER; MANAGER OF A CLOWN.>>1031182
They were 50/50 or not really hot topics of debate. Plus you are a shill.>>1031413
I wonder if they drove straight off the destroyed bridge like that jeep.
the entire war was made inevitable by 30 years of NATO's actions after the USSR's collapse. if people cannot see that the Russian Federation exhausted all peaceful options (like Minsk 2) then it is a success of NATO propaganda rather than a failure of the Russian federation. Libs gonna lib.
NYT posts, randomly between an article about Ukrainian teen refugees in Pooland and Jan 6 drivel,>By purchasing oil, China and India have emerged as financiers of Russia's war
So is that Russian oil? The same oil that gets bought and sold impartially on a capitalist world market? Not to mention the grotesque moralizing of this.
America was just a convenient example, especially since they're the ones who get intimately involved in things that are an ocean away, which testifies to the disproportionate amount of influence they exercise. But things like this happen all throughout so-called democracies, like in UK's labour party with how they reacted to Corbyn (and I'm not talking about the anti-semitism allegations, more the attempt to coup him from the party), or more recently the complete avoidance of a referendum as regards joining NATO by Sweden and Finland. Public opinion can be bypassed as needed, and democracies do non-popular or unpopular decisions all the time. All this was in response to one anon thinking Putin was being a retard for making NATO popular again or something. I have explained why that sacrifice of popularity was a perfectly rational thing for Putin, a bourgeois son of a bitch, to do, whether one likes him or not
And just because America controls everything and shit doesn't mean we can't do anything, only that one would be naive for thinking that it just means we'll solve this problem at the ballot box. Obsessing over public opinion like that first anon thought is a political dead end, especially if you know that you have much less control over the public than the media companies do, and with it, the ability to frame the discussion so that the real questions never come up. Trying to appeal to public opinion directly is to play a rigged game. Instead, the Left needs creativity and a sense of strategy to plan for the game being rigged.
where do these abominations come from?
The Infographics Show
Offensive into Odessa confirmed?
Without a shadow of a doubt. But I doubt they have any reason to.
It would be epic, but they have no reason to unless we want to talk about the alleged gunfire from the U.S. embassy in Moscow back in the 1990s.
Bomber Boris do it again
>>1031698>Stalin imprisoned and killed millions of his own people
So, ask georgians instead of russians maybe?
Pretty busy today so if somebody else could make thread 6 I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, before tomorrow noon I'll or cause do it with pleasure.
That Libs focus purely on the US now hopefully allows RU to wrap it up finally.
Global South minority decolonizes evil Russia.
Libs eternally butthurt
>>1029853>Estonian government collapsing
What is the context of this. Are not Estonians rabid nazis afterall?
afaik it's just the usual coalition politics exacerbated by a looming economic and humanitarian crisis caused by Russia's gas embargo with both sides calling each other pro-russian commies
Make a new one, jackasses!
fucking revolting the garbage the masses consume on a daily basis. the moving image is the most powerful thing invented in the 20th century
They should have bombed when macron was visiting, kill two birds with one stone
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