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 No.1101344[View All]

>barges in
>executes sex pest
>denounces stalin
>funds the shit out of third world revolutionaries
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves

why was cornman such a chad?
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 No.1103442

>>1102742
>700k executed

where is the Balayev poster to tell us that this number was ackshyually invented by anti-stalinist Zemskov and every archival document is fake fabricated by Khruschevites, Gorbachevites and Memorial?

 No.1103456

>>1103410
>Carry out Stalin's dirty work to the T
>Get executed for making the mistake of aiding with him
>80 years pass
<Alienated Western tankoids on the internet rant about how you deserved to die for carrying out Stalin's orders but uh parasocial father Papa Joe is a-okay despite telling you to kill those people

 No.1103477

>>1103456
>Hysterical coping
Stalin should have hadmore oversight over the NKVD and some form of due process. The purges could have used a lighter touch but were still necessary

 No.1103483

>>1103477
>Uhh you're coping
<Literally no arguments
Tankies, polfaggots, redditors; all just retarded smug mirror images

It's like you fuckers can't even wrap your mind around arguing with a Marxist that doesn't shill for your favorite daddy
But then again you're intentionally engaging in a personality cult and consciously rejecting the politics of Marxism in favor of aesthetics, so I shouldn't expect shit from you

At least a well trained dog can help the blind, what are you good for?

 No.1103517

>>1103483
>Didn’t read anything under the greentext
Look, I get it. I used to do the same thing that you were doing in my anarchist and libmarx days. But fwiw, this isn’t gonna help you develop a coherent understanding of what should be conserved and what should be discarded from the original socialist experiments and why, much less create a new one to succeed it.

You’re not trying to convince me, you’re trying to convince yourself

 No.1103533

>>1103517
>Uhh you ignored the point where I said Stalin should've controlled them even more
<Uhh not like you already said Yezhov was just following Stalin's orders
>Uhhhh okay maybe killing 700,000 people, a fuck ton of which were communists, was over board, but uhhhh they still needed to execute a fuck ton of communists anyway to achieve the goal of uhhhhh wiping out any opposition to a single man and setting up tens of millions to die due to military underpreparedness?
It's like you people don't actually know what to say when you meet someone that doesn't hero worship your Great Man of History
>UHHH COPE
<HAHA YOU DIDN'T READ MY FULL REPLY WHERE I SAID HE SHOULD'VE DONE SHIT YOU ALREADY DISAGREE WITH BUT uhhhh MORE DIRECTLY
I teach little kids that are smarter than this

 No.1103536

>>1103442

New Stalinist Repressions just dropped.

 No.1103538

>>1103536
>Tubus Show
Видимо, ты—человек культурный

 No.1103540

>>1103533
I can see you dropped the Pan-African Flag, ecosocialist anon

 No.1103549

>>1103536

Indeed. And through this intro music the Stalin-Mario connection has been confirmed.

 No.1103551

>>1103536
actually, Tubus has some beef with the Balayev gang. They are too unhinged

 No.1103552

>>1103533
>but uhhhh they still needed to execute a fuck ton of communists anyway to achieve the goal of uhhhhh wiping out any opposition to a single man and setting up tens of millions to die due to military underpreparedness?
I need you to substantiate this

 No.1103556

>>1103551

It makes sense. I myself am agnostic on to what extent liberals have tampered with the actual soviet archives.

So my default position is that the documents there put like a relatively upper limit on the number of executions and repressed.

 No.1103558

>>1103556

*put a relatively hard

 No.1103562

>>1103538

Btw I like what you post cpi flag anon. Do you have a burner email you can be reached at?

 No.1103563

>>1103562
I do not. But I am in the leftypol matrix

 No.1103570

>>1103563

Things would be easier off of matrix. So like a temporary protonmail or even temporary fbi.gov would be better.

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 No.1103597

>>1103576

Perfect! Msg incoming soon. Check your spam folder just in case.

 No.1103646

>>1103576

Okay done.

 No.1103793

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>>1101525
Level 52: Stalin was proto-Batman.

 No.1104474

stalinoid theory be like

 No.1104500

>>1104474
I remember being a confused teenager
You'll start to get a better picture eventually
Keep reading

 No.1104507

>>1104500
>I remember being a confused teenager
What, 6 months ago?

 No.1104512

>>1102865
>Why? The bourgeoisie and aristocracy had already been liquidated. Who was left to wage class war against in the USSR?
What Marx and Lenin have you read Sabo? Lenin mentioned for example that during the state of socialism the class contradictions do not appear and instead in many ways heighten as remnants of class relations attempt to resassert themselves or something like that but anyways if fortunate people have the option to aggrandize themselves with wealth and power by consolidating their position seperate from and over the proletariat, as the bureaucrats in the USSR did, than of course they will take it. This isn't hard to understand.

 No.1104645

>>1102865
>>1104512
Bumping for this dialogue to continue

 No.1104739

>It's like you fuckers can't even wrap your mind around arguing with a Marxist that doesn't shill for your favorite daddy

get over it, we inherited this

 No.1104811

>pro-capitalism thread

 No.1104812

>>1104512
>Lenin mentioned for example that during the state of socialism the class contradictions do not appear and instead in many ways heighten as remnants of class relations attempt to resassert themselves or something like that
I understand that, but this situation does not last forever. By the time Khruschev comes to power, it seems like the defeat of the reactionary classes is effectively secured, unless somebody has evidence to the contrary.
>as the bureaucrats in the USSR did
I don't think that statements about class struggle intensifying under socialism can necessarily be applied to the bureaucrats. I think it's highly debatable whether or not the bureaucracy even constitutes a separate class, and it's worth noting that some of the staunchest Marxist critics of the USSR (like Trotsky) did not think that they did. I myself am undecided, but I lean towards the idea that they did not, but were as Trotsky argued, a "privileged stratum" that was technically part of the working class. The nature of their relationship to the rank and file workers though is another question, since they have shown considerable variation vis a vis their political inclinations. In some countries they have overseen the wholesale restoration of capitalism, as in the USSR and Eastern Europe. In others they have stayed the socialist course, as in Cuba and the DPRK. In others they have struck a middle ground, as in China and Vietnam. Overall it seems that they have no overwhelming in inclination towards either, and can he pulled in either direction depending on local conditions. So while I think Khruschev is rightly criticized for presiding over the entrenchment of the bureaucracy as the dominant stratum of Soviet society, I don't consider this to be the death knell of socialism or the USSR. There was no guarantee that this stratum would have taken the capitalist road that it ended up taking. Certainly I don't think Khruschev can be blamed all that much for not seeing the bureaucracy as the potential threat that it was, since in his day this was still somewhat of a new type of social antagonism. It's only with the benefit of hindsight that we can see the seriousness of his mistakes.

 No.1104844

>>1101344
Wasn’t he an actual frontlines WW2 hero in St Petersburg? I dunno much about him. Only what I could glisten as probably true from movies and Wikipedia.

 No.1104849

>>1104844
He served as a commissar during the battle of Stalingrad but apparently his role wasn't that large.

 No.1104867

>>1102036
Westworld has adopted increasingly leftist themes, and is way better then your average show. Abstract concepts like capitalist alienation, loops, false liberal hope, effectiveness of rioting, and liberal fascism are all presented in various forms. Leftist art by virtue of depth is usually better than mainstream art, and almost always better than reactionary art.

 No.1104869

>>1104849
Lol I just gathered that was probably the case by reading the critique of him here. I wasn’t particularly a Kruschev fan, but previously understood Brezhnev as the downfall of international communism. There’s, apparently, some good points to be made that Kruschev was the downfall and a careerist to boot.

 No.1104875

>>1104869
Khruschev set in motion certain trends which eventually became fatal for the USSR, but Brezhnev I think is far more responsible for failing to address them even once the problem had become more apparent and the USSR had reached the peak of its strength and security. I think that Khruschev probably empowered the bureaucracy inadvertently, in an effort to restore a kind of constitutuonal, "normalized" governance after Stalin's period dominated by crises and emergencies. I think the rise of the bureaucracy may have been a side effect of Khruschev's efforts to carry out this necessary task.

 No.1104888

Schopenhauer < Kruchev< Trotsky < Nixon > Stalin < Proudhon

Change my mind

 No.1104939

>>1104888
I have no idea what this means

 No.1104985

>>1101360
Just look at how happy he looks in that pic and all the other pictures of him with corn. It's like he never lost the little boy in him, and I admire that in a leader. We should all be able to take pleasure in the smaller things in life. Also he killed Banderas, so Khrushchev is okay in my book.

 No.1105001

>>1104985
my headcanon is that he just told a joke about how the corn is almost as big as his cock and everyone is laughing

 No.1105514

>>1104474
>Brezhnev singlehandedly rebuilding socialism
nah
he was Khruschevite lite

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 No.1107819

>>1103556
If the Balayev gang knew books Grover Furr books (and not just his article on Katyn), they would call him anti communist as well, lol

 No.1107820

>>1104985
reminds me of comrade Kim jong un and the childlike joy on his face

 No.1108058

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>>1101344
It's funny that he disliked Stalin's "excessiveness" though personally Stalin was the most ascetic commie around. He just knew that the country needed some glitter. Cornman was cheap in public but a gluton and wastrel in person.

 No.1108084

I have doubts about Beria being a total comic book freak. 40 something murdered women seem over the top to me. Any evidence? Where are photographs of skeletons? This might be cooked up by the Kruschev clique. US laches onto anything bad from the soviet union and once both sides are in agreement it's almost impssoble to quesiton it.

 No.1108112

>>1108084
I will never understand the Stalinoid urge to defend a rapist that took credit for Stalin's death and would have made Gorbachev look like Lenin had he actually stayed in power

 No.1109473

>>1108112
The ebil Stalinoid urge to not become a rabid anticommunist and willingly participate in heaping absurd lies and slander into each and every single past socialist experiment.

 No.1109505

>>1108112
>took credit for Stalin's death and would have made Gorbachev look like Lenin had he actually stayed in power
This one I could believe easily. Him picking schoolgirls of the street and putting them into wood chipper not so much.

 No.1109510

>>1108112
you can critisize his political stances, but the rapist Beria claim does not have much proof other than Kruschev claim.

 No.1109534

>>1108058
i dont tend to have strong opinions on architecture but that is hideous

 No.1109831

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>>1109473
>The ebil Stalinoid urge to not become a rabid anticommunist and willingly participate in heaping absurd lies and slander into each and every single past socialist experiment.
Except when they claim that the USSR was an evil revisionist social imperialist state after 1953.


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