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 No.1103473

I guess a brief summary of them would be a group of genuinely radical Vietnam-era college students that committed revolutionary terrorism to sabotage the American war effort. I know a lot of people will react thinking "silly white college kids" but they're not terribly different from how the Bolsheviks started out (obviously not anywhere as competent and dedicated, but not principally different in class character or methods). From what I've read they never even killed anybody, but they also never became more than a media spook and an occasional episode of draft sabotage.

I personally have a stake with them, as one of their bombs destroyed records of my father's draft card, saving him from the war. What do you think Leftypol? were they a baby vanguard party that never really got the chance to organize, or just retarded terrorists trying to copy the Red Army Faction?

 No.1103594

They were serious revolutionaries, deeply involved the anti-imperialist struggle

https://archive.org/details/PrairieFireThePoliticsOfRevolutionaryAnti-imperialismThePolitical

 No.1103595

retarded adventurists at best, typically with parents in asocial professions (university professor, accountant, etc.) and anti marxist radicals at worst. I believe the district attorney of San Francisco, who was recently recalled after failing to take seriously the physical safety of asian persons, was the son of two WU people. I met one of their guys when he came to my campus though, he was alright.

 No.1103596

>I personally have a stake with them, as one of their bombs destroyed records of my father's draft card, saving him from the war
Cool stuff.

What impact did WU have on the war effort; was it negligible?

 No.1103601

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>>1103595
>I believe the district attorney of San Francisco, who was recently recalled after failing to take seriously the physical safety of asian persons, was the son of two WU people.
So what?

 No.1103628

>>1103595
>t. porky victim of WU

 No.1103705

>>1103473
Extremely cringe yet extremely based at the same time

 No.1103710

glowies

 No.1103715

>>1103705 (me)
the biggest example of cringe would be probya be praising charles mansons' tate and la bianca murders as some kind of rebellion against "the man", and other counter-culture antics that alienated regular workers

 No.1103735

Good cause but had the typical new left pathologies that made it hard to win mass support (and the US was probably too rich at that point anyway, it's not like today). Hearts were in the right place.

 No.1103794

In b4 everyone accuses them of being CIA.

 No.1105159

Absolutely unhinged retards. I don't know about any communist organization that liked them. Other people from the former SDS hated them, Black panthers hated them iirc

 No.1105204

>but they're not terribly different from how the Bolsheviks started out
That may have been the case, but the tactics and methods of the Bolsheviks were clearly far better suited to their conditions than those of the WU. I would call them "adventurists," becsuse that's the appropriate term for people who pursue extreme methods when they are not compatible with the situation.

 No.1105242

>>1105159
Everybody in the New Left hated each other or suspected them as glowies. Very par for the course.

 No.1105522

>>1105242
in case of Weathermen it was justified

imagine unironically talking about how murdering white babies is good (while being white yourself)

 No.1105895

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>We didn’t want to build a broad antiwar movement. We wanted to get to the root of the problem. Radicals always go to the root, and the root is imperialism and capitalism. We wanted to jump many, many steps. Instead of building the base, we just wanted to go forward. I picked up a slogan in Cuba from José Martí, the poet who was the soul of the Cuban Revolution: “Now is the time of the furnaces, and only light should be seen.”

>It didn’t work! We thought we’d start a revolution and everybody would join us. It was a fantasy; it was a delusion.


>The freedom struggle had morphed from the nonviolent, integrationist Civil Rights Movement to Black Power by 1968. I came of age during that transition, and one of the slogans of black power, which had originated with Malcolm X, was “by any means necessary.” Fifty years ago, this phrase was code for violence: we have to pick up the gun. We joined what historian Vijay Prashad called the “cult of the gun.”


>Then we moved to militancy. Again, we misidentified the source of our power, which was organizing and coalition-building at Columbia. We moved to militancy, and we made militancy the issue. We substituted bad organizing for good organizing. That didn’t work either. For example, we called for a national action to bring the war home in October 1969 in Chicago, and we envisioned thousands of revolutionary youths meeting in Chicago to protest the opening of the Chicago conspiracy trial, also known as the Chicago Seven.


>Well, it didn’t happen. The revolutionary youth did not appear, because there were maybe two hundred of us. Incidentally, we started with five hundred people in the Weatherman faction, and in the course of our organizing we went down to two hundred. That should have told us something right there. But we *knew* we were right, and we *knew* Che Guevara was right. We *knew* it was the era of national liberation. We *knew* the revolution had come, it was time to pick up the gun, and we *knew* we had to support the Panthers.


>A small cabal of people with whom I was involved decided that SDS wasn’t revolutionary enough — the time had come for revolution! Now is the time of the furnaces, and only light should be seen! To be revolutionary is to make the revolution — not to talk about it, but to *make* it. The next thing to do was to destroy SDS, to close the national and regional offices, close down the chapters, and start a revolutionary guerrilla army. That was the thinking, such as it was, behind the Weather Underground.

– Mark Rudd

 No.1107089

>>1105895
You can call them adventurist but that is the attitude revolutionaries actually need. If we had people like that operating in today's conditions they might be able to actually get stuff done.

 No.1107656

>>1105522
>t. brownoid

 No.1107666

>>1107089
This. Don't apologize for shit that doesn't deserve an apology, just win.

 No.1107673

>>1107089
>revolutionaries
A revolution is never going to happen in America without maybe several black swan events like covid in a row, along with further divisive presidencies like Trump's, as well as economic degradation and further casus belli for racial strife.

 No.1107677

>>1107673
So it's just going to rot
Well let it rot

 No.1107687

>>1107666
>just win xD
>loses

 No.1107708

>>1107687
Losing better is winning : )))

 No.1107755

They all ended up as ghey college professors who voted for or campaigned for Obama

 No.1107760

Was Charles Manson based?

 No.1107776

They represent nearly everything wrong with western leftists. Comparing them to the Bolsheviks is disgusting.

 No.1110795

it doesnt rain much but it's very cold.


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