No.1107370
>>1107366I haven't any because I've never read him. What are your thoughts? Anything I should know?
No.1107372
>>1107370Barely even knew who he was before Russia invaded Ukraine, I haven't read him either. Kind of why I made this thread, I want to know more and know where to start
No.1107375
Reactionary socialist
No.1107378
I learned about him in tandem with caleb maupin because radlibs we're smearing them together on SDL's fbi.gov years ago. aside from memes I dont think about him, he seems like a fascist but also just literal who that no one would care about if not for the anti russia propaganda
No.1107380
Just a rehash of Heidegger.
No.1107387
Fascism, just in a country where the strong antifascism in WW2 has made blatant fascism unpopular among nationalists who consider their victory a high moment in their nation's history. "Fourth Position" is just a way to rebrand fascism by calling something totally new to circumvent this.
Remember that fascism always tries to portray itself as the true new revolution, but at the end of the day, there are two main classes. If it's not for the proletariat, you'd better bet it's serving the bourgeoisie.
No.1107393
I've not read 4PT but I've read some articles he's written and I get the impression it's more like early fascism, since he believes that the reason every fascist movement failed was because it got into bed with the rich and instead of culture or race he wants to build it around "Dasein". So I guess in the context of the 90s they wanted to hard reset the oligarchs rather than work with them, while someone will point out fascism can't work without the backing of the rich it's even more pointless to form a fascist movement to back a bunch of traitorous Yeltsinites.
Russian fascism is also more commonly like Italian fascism than Nazi stuff, even their old fascist emigres in Manchuria weren't particularly racist besides the antisemitism. Dugin isn't even antisemitic so after a bit you start to wonder why he even chose fascism, and it's probably just a branding choice for a kind of romanticist authoritarianism which people wouldn't really get excited for if you just packaged it in your average cryptofascist conservative party.
No.1107395
Was it him or the other guy who was big in the Soviet punk scene?
No.1107397
>>1107366that's what Doogin looked like in 1996?
lmao
No.1107437
You will not waste your time at least reading his material or a book of his
Interesting world view and concepts
No.1107447
That liberals have gone psychotic over so called Nazbols, what effectively is a glorious edgy LARP, is quite funny. But as for the 4PT, it's not bad but not the greatest invention since mister Carlos Marks either. Westoid media shills and similar hacks have just hyped up this business quite racistly in fact as their spooky Russian manipulator, the Rasputin Commu Putin Nazi that secretly commands the Putin administration's activities, even though Putin is probably too cucked to do any of that shit. Just read their real published books if it's that imperative instead of this hearsay nonsense.
No.1107451
>>1107402Any good bands come out of that scene?
No.1107454
>>1107451No idea, I'm not Russian I just read some machine translated stuff on it over the years.
No.1107457
>>1107452Yes, it's by far the most diverse and living rock scene
No.1107461
>>1107457All rock music is shite
No.1107471
>>1107461Stop pretending to be British and sophisticated
No.1107472
Third rate failed professor who has never produced any original theory and presents rehashed 19th century British geopolitical theory. In other words a grifter.
No.1107480
>>1107472>rehashed 19th century British geopolitical theory.From the other side as in how to defeat it
That's what makes Aleksander "I am with Africa" Dugin interesting enough to read if you have nothing better to do
No.1107503
>>1107366It's rehashed nazbol ideology
No.1107539
>>1107452Finally! Someone who actually understands that punk rock is shitty!
No.1107540
>>1107457Nah. That's prog rock and heavy metal.
No.1107590
People in the West think he somehow advises Putin on foreign policy when in reality that probably isn't even true. Just libs blowing things out of proportion.
No.1107594
>>1107590They love cherrypicking Foundations of Geopolitics, specifically the parts that make sense and played out and ignoring the insane retard parts like "RUSSIA MUST INVADE XINJIANG AND ARMENIA"
No.1107596
>>1107503It's absolutely not, considering dugin himself explicitly disavows racism; you'd know this if you actually read his work rather than lazily posturing in relation to a strawman which you derived from a preconceived bias.
No.1107598
Why are nighas shilling Dugin here? For what purpose?
No.1107599
>>1107598same reason people support nationalism against imperialism
No.1107600
>>1107599Because they aren’t commies but like red aesthetics?
No.1107603
Dugin is cool
No.1107604
>>1107596Are Russian Nazbols even racist? Between Limonov and Dugin I've never heard them say anything racist, and Limonov is more progressive than Dugin. Although Limonov did have a wacky scheme to use racial tensions to overthrow the government of Kazakhstan and use it as a base to invade Russia. Which is probably more racist than anything Dugin has ever done lol.
No.1107725
I've read Dugin's book and even wrote a review for a leftypol publication, dunno where is it now
The guy is a massive theorylet and I have to agree with
>>1107380 Dugin's only notable thesis is a calque from heideggar
No.1107811
>>1107366Dugin is a schizo
His theories are schizo
And people around him were and still are schizo (Limonov was schizo, Letov was schizo, Dzhemal was schizo)
The only more schizo russian of modern times was Grigory Klimov
No.1107816
>>1107403>People here have told me they weren't antisemitic or racist or whateverexcept against literally any non-Russian. they're about as "not racist" as the Portuguese fascists were; ie they fetishise the multiculturalism and miscegenation but have clear masters and slaves of the "race" hierarchy
No.1107842
>>1107403>why did the NBP design their flag to look like like the nazis?>just to be edgy?Basically yeah.
Limonov, who was the leader of the NBP, Didn't really believe identical/similar things to Dugin - even though Dugin was in the NBP, he was more a 'post-leftist'
Utterly delusional kinda anarchist punk - Dugin basically tried to steal the NBP out from under Limonov and make its political position 4PT - And when he formally left he formed the Eurasia Party and the Eurasian Youth Union around himself
I read his little book 'The other Russia' ages and ages ago, from what i remember it makes Dugin sound fucking sane
He wanted Russia [Which either he came up with the idea of turning into 'Eurasia' or he must of learned from Dugin when he was part of NBP] to be a confederation of communes / oblasts, With no nuclear/monogamous/Christian families, Free-Love, and the idea that Russia/Eurasia should openly invade with full force as much of the Eurasian landmass as they can [None of Dugins 'foundation of geopolitics' - Limonov says something like 'It will be like WW2, when we enter a country a portion of the population will willingly accept our ideas, and another will collaborate out of fear - Like how the Nazis and communists made militias in the occupied nations in WW2 those who refuse to accept us will be pointed out by the collaborators and be destroyed', plus some shit about how formal education needs to be abolished, and kids should just be allowed to like play outside all day and like *Hits blunt*…Just like…Just like be themselves
And receive military training man!
No.1107851
>>1107842>With no nuclear/monogamous/Christian families, Free-Love, and the idea that Russia/Eurasia should openly invade with full force as much of the Eurasian landmass as they canlol yeah
like we are the pink-haired punk maniacs who will crush you under the treads of our tanks! Very 90s figure.
No.1107855
>>1107402limonov is based but you ned to understand him in his time:
everything but Yeltzin. Everything.
No.1109341
>>1107461Uhhhhhhh source?
No.1111319
>>1107387best post, nothing else really needs to be said
No.1111330
>>1111319>bumping this shitunironically kill yourself, anon.
No.1111816
Just an esoteric fascist
No.1111837
The guy to his right looks like he has a head ache from having to sit next to him.
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