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 No.1327768

Hey guys, Editor. I'm sorry to say but I'm announcing the end of the New Multitude project as of today.

NM was a place for anons and non anons to write about stuff that mattered to them and we had contributions from all over the world, including Singapore, Malaysia, Nigeria, UK, USA, Mexico, Norway, Netherlands, Brazil, Myanmar, Thailand, Japan, and many more.

I've been running the site since the start and at this point I just don't have the time to give it the attention it deserves.
I want to express sincere thanks to all the contributors as well as the original logo designers who generously contributed their work for the project, and everyone who supported, whether financially or just through sharing and commenting on articles. The site will remain up for a while. If you want to contact me, I'll still be on the matrix chat.

thanks -Ed.

 No.1327785

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>>1327768
thank you for your service, editor.
🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

 No.1327790

any chance you down archive/download all the articles?

 No.1327792

dunno what is this but posting here to be stickied in first positions

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 No.1327802

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It was fun while it lasted.

 No.1327809

NOOOO NOT THE MULTITUDERINOS

 No.1327811

>>1327768
it was a much appreciated effort anon. I'm actually surprised you were able to run it so long. what are you moving onto next, have you got an irl job or something?

 No.1327905

>>1327768
Thanks for your effort

 No.1327949

Thank you for your effort, NM Ed.

 No.1328022

>>1327768
Wait, what’s going to happen to this website?

 No.1328023

Where is everybody going to move to?

 No.1328024

>>1328022
there is an archive .zip file. will distribute it. There's always a chance it could be rebooted

 No.1328025

>>1327768
> the matrix chat
Where?

 No.1328026

>>1327768
Can someone purchase it from you? If you are, how much are you planning on selling it?

 No.1328040

>>1328023
leftypol.org is NOT closing down.

New Multitude is a really nice project by our dear editor that unfortunately and sadly, but also very understandably will shut down.

 No.1328074

>>1327768
Thanks a lot for all your hard work. We will post the archive zip in the reading thread.

 No.1328086

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 No.1328118

File: 1673311932801.gif (Spoiler Image, 604.99 KB, 600x900, itsover.gif)

And thus, the last vestige of old /leftypol/ dies

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 No.1328150

>>1328127
Oh, true

 No.1328246

Why don’t you have the time anymore? Or were there no articles lately?

 No.1328306

>>1327768
Thanks, Ed, for all the contributions you've made. Rest in peace, NM. You will be remembered.

- 302

 No.1328318

>>1328246
A combination of that and just not really getting any articles submitted to edit. My skills are as an editor not a marketer so it was difficult to strategize how to get more submissions.

 No.1328558

>>1327768
Literally who

 No.1328661


 No.1328862

Hello editor. I am the original creator of the nM logo. I remember in that thread years ago when coming up with a project the asking for a logo and thinking of something before coming up with the idea of the n being inside of the M. I thought it was a very clever idea at the time and was quite glad you liked it enough for you to use it. Remember it might have been that thread or another but someone called it dumb and at that point I kinda agreed and so offered you a second logo of this previous Soviet logo modified to fit it. But you said there was still mileage in that original and so I didn’t push it further. You had some really good essays and I was glad that I helped contribute to this project, even in this small way. I still of the mind that a better logo could’ve been created and used but for what it’s worth, I’m glad that you really liked it and even when it all ends, it was something you felt needed thanks. And I thank you, for sticking to that logo through the shift from medium to website to substack. And thank you for this wonderful project

 No.1329305

>>1327768
Please make an archive for us to save.

 No.1329306

>>1328024
Where will you distribute it?

 No.1329569

>>1328318
Ah I see. That’s a shame. I personally can’t think of much to write these days myself tbh…

 No.1329797

cant internet archives do the job very easily?

 No.1330169

Why don't you keep the website dormant until new articles starts coming in?

 No.1330393

>>1330169
costs money probably

 No.1330541

>>1329797
Probably, but do you have the links?

 No.1330556

>>1330541
just change the domain or something, so many projects in here die like this and it is sad

 No.1330566

I think the main problem is not the hosting or maintenance of a website but the labor of soliciting and editing articles.

 No.1330750

Make sure it's all on archive.org before pulling the plug.

 No.1330999

>>1330566
I mean yeah you're pretty much right. I really enjoy working with a writer, but like I've said, I'm not good at marketing or tech. It would have been good to have a collective working on this to bounce things off, etc

 No.1331000

>>1330169
It will be up for a long time don't worry

 No.1332177

>>1330999
>>1331000
you deserved both of those gets, dear editor. Thank you for your service over the years, we wish you the best in all things going forward.

 No.1332819

man. i always thought "ill write for New Multitude next month when things die down" but it was always daunting when i started. now its gone :(

i guess ill just post my screeds as threads

 No.1333136

Can a scrapper had been used to churn out a few cheap articles?

Too late now, but still.

Thanks for all the team's effort.

 No.1333290

We already had:
>Bunkermundo
https://bunkermundo.wordpress.com/
>SpectreRouge
https://archive.is/jrEo2
>Bunkermag
https://archive.is/4b7GQ

Did I forget something?

 No.1334767

Why don't you pass the domain off to one of the admins here or at leftychan or something?

I mean, it's important to preserve these mediums because the more of these alternative sites go down the more centralized the discourse around leftism on the internet becomes.

 No.1334772

>>1333290
I think there needs to be some serious discourse on the why these magazines keep failing. Judging by what the editor for nM said, it seems to be lack of engagement. Well, its more than that, but without that steady flow of articles being publishes, it was kinda hard for them to do their job, and so they had to try and get creative on the articles. It seems they run out of steam on doing things, so thats why it ended

 No.1334804

Not crying because it's over, smiling because it happened. Thanks ed.

>>1334772
Successful projects in this genre include:
Monthly Review
Libcom

cosmonaut mag

Not sure why the leftypol stuff fails. probably because it is nonacademic and also not supported by the CIA. If we want to make a feature magazine for leftypol, maybe it would be worth trying to figure out some criteria to have long-form built into the main site with some kind of community approval system. Imagine reading 1500 word polemical debates between leftypol users that were actually written for an audience rather than the polemicized user.

I think it would be cool if we had a board for feature posts that would be posted by an editor, and could then be commented on with the regular image-board software and somehow integrated into the /leftypol/ board.

 No.1334814

>>1334804
Well the difference I’d say is that they have regular writers who can throw out articles, whereas the editor here had to rely on anons for the articles. (Though I do recall at least once it was the editors who took a thread and made an article of it). So if no one is contributing, there’s not much else to publish and at that point, the editor had to look for something, which contributed to the end. Though I guess I don’t know why he simply gives the publishing task to someone else and stays as editor at best or just parts ways at worst. Don’t see why it has to ends but maybe it’s the only way

 No.1335026

>>1334804
>it is nonacademic and also not supported by the CIA.
I don't think cosmonaut mag is academic either (or is it?)

also what is 闯 ?

 No.1335167

>>1334772
>>1334804
So actually yes, I started NM after seeing that right her on Leftypol, there is actually some really interesting, insightful and knowledgable discussions. Like seriously, this is one of the few places where people can really let it out and debate (reasonably) freely, not just on everyday experience, but how socialists relate to China, etc.Some of the early articles attempted to make articles out of threads alongside meme pictures. But this is a lot of labour actually!

I guess ideally we would have had a collective and when we identified a cool thread, we would have made an article out of it, and then passed it around the collective for quality control.

Sometimes I took effortposts and polished them up as articles, but that act of translating an effort post into an article feels like a fish out of water sometimes. Simply, the way people write on imageboards doesn't look right when put into an article most of the time. I did sometimes make posts in threads asking people who made good posts if they would care to write it up into an article, but it's incredibly difficult to do this on an imageboard. Matrix has made things somewhat easier. Maybe setting up a room there of people interesting in writing and editing could work.

I'll give an example on the problem: For the last few years, there's been a lot of talk about Paul Cockshott on leftypol, probably 100,000 words written on his theories, cybersyn, etc. I personally don't know much about him, but seeing that there was a large community of people here who did, I thought this would be a unique topic that literally no one else in the left media sphere is covering. However, when I went into the thread to ask if there was anyone who would care to do a introductory article on Cockshott, no one wanted to, in fact I was basically told to read his books and write one myself. Thinking about this, I think it shows that posting on leftypol is fundamentally different to writing articles. Posting on leftypol is a leisure activity, whereas writing an article is labour. I was naive to think that people would freely write stuff, because they are two different types of writing. So that's the key issue here that means that translating the energy and knowledge here into something less ephemeral, needs to overcome.

 No.1335184

>>1334804
>Not sure why the leftypol stuff fails. probably because it is nonacademic and also not supported by the CIA.
It's probably more a lack of critical mass. You need enough writers to crank out articles regularly and enough readers to read, interact, share, etc

 No.1335299

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>>1335184
I think another issue was relevance. When I looked, the topics were geographically disparate and niche, and unless each one of these articles were shared to other more-specific local newspapers or groups, it's unlikely they would find readers who are personally connected to the subject matter.

 No.1335759

ChatGPT

 No.1336444

>>1335026
It's Chuang, a supposed Chinese left-com mag confirmed to be a CIA/NED project run by a white anarchist from Seattle.

 No.1336447

>>1335299
True. Instead of occupying a single niche it was targeting multiple niches at once, none of them with consistency.

 No.1336593

I would try and write something but I am skitzo and take meds forreals so I would probably end up sinking the project

 No.1336752

>>1336444
Any source on it being a glowop?

 No.1337646

>>1336444
>confirmed
Where
>white anarchist
Reading over the issue one introduction just now, (the one about the thousand li ) they specifically say they're communists interested in China, not exclusively Chinese nationals or whatever. They claim to translate/report on those in China, but I didn't see anything saying anything about authorship either on the about page or their first editorial explaining their viewpoint.
>CIA/NED
This meme really needs to die, you can never tell when people are serious or they're just some schizo leftist blaming every failure of everything on the CIA (including stupid things done by leftists of their own accord) or whathaveyou. If there's proof the whole thing was specifically a false front then present it, but otherwise the whole "everything bad is CIA" thing just makes people look like unhinged types who blame the CIA when the room goes dark as they flick the lightswitch.

 No.1337747

>>1337646
Nah he is right its a Kissinger Institute Anti-Communist front group, dont be so naive.

 No.1337780

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File: 1674092122977-1.png (498.03 KB, 750x694, chuang2.png)

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File: 1674092122977-3.png (83.83 KB, 758x785, kek.png)

>>1336752
some anons in the /prc/ general had all the details a while back. Don't expect information outing intelligence agency assets to stay on the internet for long, unless they somehow get published in a "reputable" journal (not happening these days since we are in full Red Scare 3.0 mode)
>>1337646
>some schizo leftist blaming every failure of everything on the CIA (including stupid things done by leftists of their own accord)
Amazing how you can't even defend this glowop without resorting to base, kneejerk anti-communism.
Even a quick google search reveals that the site cites 2 known NED foundations
https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/9umglq/comment/e95jb3y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I still decided to take a dive into their social media presence, wasn't surprised to see their content is primarily shared among the "China watcher" crowd, basically Western journalists working for NGOs, and self-hating Chinese liberals.
Pic 1: the crowd using tired Redditisms pushed by MSM
pic 2: citing the WSJ, lmao, literally the paper of billionaires
pic 3: NY Times, same deal
pic 4: was just too funny not to screenshot, I literally laughed out loud when I read 'Chinese anarchists from wealthier backgrounds." They really can't help but give their game away.
pic 5: A journo who's one of chuang's biggest reply guys. Totally a normal leftist concerned with normal leftist things.

 No.1337814

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>>1337780
Heres this one aswell.

 No.1337871

Don't divert from the thread topic please

>>1336593
Just write it.

 No.1340433

>>1335167
you can use chat gpt to convert posts into articles now, lel

 No.1341706

>>1340433
Stop shitposting, and if you think your posts made sense, leave until you realize what NLPs are and what they are not.

 No.1342191

>>1341706
I'm not shitposting though. What's the harm in asking chatgpt to rewrite a post in the format of a news article. It does save some labor.
>your posts made sense
In this thread? I only made 2 posts before your reply.

 No.1342201

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I would say to the editor of the zine to rethink fully shutting it down or to at least think of a way to allow for the magazine to still be alive in the future. Mainly because as its been pointed out, theres been a lot of past attempts at making magazines and let it be known that is history repeats, there will be more attempts. And I feel like out of all past attempts, nM was more realized than the rest and was not as grounded in the board, at least aesthetic wise. And if some person wants to form another magazine/news site, then I'd rather they'd have a good solid foundation to work on rather than starting from scratch. Not saying to start production right away, but prolonged hiatus? Idk its up to you editor anon.
>Also
What are your thoughts on editorial or opinion pieces? Lots of other newspaper/magazines have them, and lets be fair not everyone cares for that. But if an anon has a hot take, this is a platform to throw it into the discourse. Might want to curate these takes obviously, but there can be interesting discussion to be had.

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 No.1343129

>>1337814
>Darren Byler
FUCK that faggot. he is absolutely 100% a glowie, he has an outsized amount of coverage on things especially related to xinjiang. if hes supposedly posting as a chinese communist as well, it only furthers his case as a paid agitator


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