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 No.134318[Last 50 Posts]

What causes mass shootings? Specifically in America, the world epicenter for it, and not ideologically motivated violence such as terrorism. The reason the media pushes–guns–always struck me as a half truth. The correlation is undeniable, the more guns you have around predictably the more they will be used. But a gun does not alone cause someone to want to murder innocent strangers. What about America's brutal society puts these people over the edge?

There seems to be an intersection of causes, psychological, cultural, and sociological, that are enabled by the availability of guns. The breakdown of a sense of national community, a culture which disposes of young men and leaves them in isolation, inattentiveness to warning signs.

However, a more detailed answer eludes me and blaming guns seems to be too politically convenient, like its attempting to coverup the societal decay which leads to troubled young men engaging in hyperviolence.
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 No.134323

>what causes large phenomenon with many different known motivations
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 No.134327

>>134318
>What causes mass shootings?
Hollywood movies.
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 No.134330

Apolitical terrorism. It is often the same motivations of conventional terrorism, but without the direct political justifications.
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 No.134331

Your mom
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 No.134363

>>134318
>availability of guns
Look no further, in every country people commit murders for various reasons, and they use whatever it as their disposal: that guy will choke his wife, another will stab a coworker, some dude will shoot his neighbors with Grandpa's old double barrel hunting rifle. In the US, if you decide to kill someone, you can just buy automatic weapons at Wallmart.
If you actually manage to restrain the availability of guns, people would still kill each other because America turn people into psychos, but the specific form of thoses murders would be more like what you observe in other countries.
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 No.134369

Unironically the popular media does play a role.

All violent movies should be replaced with anime slice of life.

The drinks should have HRT secretly added.

Microchips will be added into the vaccines for compliance.
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 No.134370

>>134363
thats clealry wrong ,other countries have acces to guns and people rarely just go and shoot up a fucking mall or store
>>134318
Americans have a very weird view of death and combat,not only they are a nation always at war but their media is almost entirely made up of either impirialists soldiers killing people of different ethnicities or psichopaths being edgy
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 No.134377

>The reason the media pushes–guns–always struck me as a half truth.
Of course: other nations have lots of guns too and almost no mass killings.
Some subsections of the gun argument include accessibility and types of firearms able to be purchased (e.g. assault rifles) intensifying the issue, but again, that's really only half the problem. Other nations with lethal firearms available to the public don't have regular shootings. Like you said, the core issue is psychological, cultural, and/or sociological, that are enabled by the availability of guns.
Like >>134323 says, there are many motivations. The big, famous and premeditated ones that I can recall seem to be related to isolation or political radicalization (including Christian politics). Looking at the Wikipedia list of recent ones, most seem like just arguments turned violent, with a sprinkle of robbery and gang drive-bys. A surprising amount of clubs and house parties (alcohol + gun?)
>already 7 mass shootings in Houston, Texas this year
we_have_a_problem.wav

You could even relate this with a related issue of police shootings. Compare with loicense land where most police dont even carry firearms.
>4 police shot since 2010 (total 10 died "in line of duty")
>30 deaths by law enforcement since 2010 (about 22 were shot, including 6 who had stabbed multiple strangers or were holding hostages at gunpoint)
Compared to USA:
>4776 killings by law enforcement since 2010 (I literally can't analyze this. Many are shooters and hostage takers, for example of the 8 done this Feb, 4 of them almost certainly attacked or pointed a pistol at police)
>police deaths by gunfire alone: 2020: 45. 2019: 48. 2018: ??, leading cause of death. 2017: 44. 2016: 64.
Part of it is culture (police AND societal), part of it is guns.
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 No.134381

Mass shooters are dumb. They could just become cops and then legally shoot people.
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 No.134382

>>134370
>other countries have acces to guns
Not to the extent of the US, no.
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 No.134386

>>134381
You can't be a cop if your IQ is above 90 so 91 IQ people have to find another way to release their frustrations.
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 No.134389

>>134382
the thing is that in europe you can still by a shot gun and shoot up the school,they dont
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 No.134392

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The ideological motivations are across the board and some don't even seem ideological, but I want to read Mark Ames' book "Going Postal" about it – he apparently pins mass shootings on the pressure to live out the dying American Dream mutating into rage when things don't work out. Toxic, abusive environments from workplace to schools. Mass shootings were almost completely unknown before the 1980s.

It's not just white guys. Christopher Dorner was kinda like this but he declared war on the entire LAPD – and he was a former LAPD officer who lost his job. But he probably experienced all kinds of abusive behavior from his fellow officers, was subjected to racism, etc.

I think the easy availability of guns definitely plays a part. It's trivial to buy an AK-47. But it's much deeper.

>>134370
>not only they are a nation always at war but their media is almost entirely made up of either impirialists soldiers killing people of different ethnicities or psichopaths being edgy
It's rarely used outside some of the academic research, but there was a term for them once called "pseudocommandos" which described how mass shooters like to adopt an alter-ego of an avenging lone warrior or "dark" superhero character. It's very strange. You'll often them photograph themselves aiming a gun at a camera, posing with guns, etc. while dressed in "tactical" gear and cool sunglasses. For a non-American example, Anders Breivik fits the mold. He created a whole alternative universe with himself as the "hero." Not to get all Freudian because I barely understand it, but it's like they're so alienated, they create this alter-ego that is operating on death drive and that consumes the shattered personality that existed before.

But at least the alter-ego Tyler Durden terrorist personality they've constructed has a goal and a purpose – a horrendous one but it's something. So it's a kind of madness, but it's a peculiar and focused kind of madness while otherwise being "normal" and going about their day. They can prepare for months or years. You could be standing in line at a Burger King and the guy next to you could be plotting a mass shooting he'll carry out in six months and you would never know.

Witnesses often report that mass shooters seem very calm. Breivik repeatedly said "oh wow" when he shot people like he was playing a real-life video game. It's a disturbing thing to think about and I don't want to dwell on it, but some shoot themselves to close out their "mission" and I wonder what they're thinking when they do that. Did they plan to do that all along? Or did they get hit with the sudden realization of what they just did?

>>134377
>A surprising amount of clubs and house parties (alcohol + gun?)
Drunk, stupid young men with guns at a party. An argument breaks out over a girl. Someone pulls out a gun and people get shot. Young men + stupid beef + gun = dead body. That's a big chunk of the homicides in America. Also shootings outside strip clubs seem like a pretty regular occurrence here. Men with beef, criminals, etc. Argument ensues.

I know one guy who was almost caught up in a mass shooting. Several of his friends were getting married and had a party at a house, but the ex-husband of one of the women at the party wasn't invited. She had broken up with him and married another guy. He had trouble finding work and was drinking a lot, and that night got drunk at a bar, walked into the house with a rifle and killed nine people including himself. My friend had to unexpectedly leave town (either for work or for a family issue, can't remember) otherwise he would've been there.
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 No.134393

>>134327
No, you fucking moron. It's violent videogames.
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 No.134398

>>134370
Oh I forgot to mention this, but I think the imperialist warmongering definitely plays a role somewhere in this. Diplomacy for the U.S. is like a pit stop before sending in the Marines. That's how America "solves" its problems in the world, and if that's internalized by the culture, then it's no wonder that will take on these strange domestic manifestations.

To make it even more sick and bizarre, the transformation of an alienated person in a dystopia into a hardened, purpose-driven killer – which might be how mass shooters see themselves on some level – is a recruiting hook by the Marines. Look at this ad. Then the Marine comes home and looks around, and things are just as shitty or has gotten worse. Oh, and there's more immigrants! Or whatever. You'll see comments online like "I fought in Iraq… for this…" It's like, dude, you were just indoctrinated to police the empire and follow orders like a robot.
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 No.134405

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 No.134409

>>134369
The media gurantees that whoever does it gets immediate national attention and the spotlight. The media ought to just blackout all mass shootings and they would stop. These people want attention.
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 No.134410

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>>134318
Who gives a shit. This is peak americunt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States
>However, mass shootings accounted for less than 0.2% of all homicides in the U.S. between 2000 and 2016.

"Mass shooting" is tiny, insignificant, arbitrary subset of gun related homicides that your government uses as an excuse to take away guns, or just to posture around the issue for electoral reasons.

Get working on the reasons people kill themselves with a gun before trying to find out why that one person lost it and gunned down some randoms.
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 No.134413

>>134392
Good answer. I think psychologically it's a combo of three things:

1. Personal vendetta or a feeling of grievance
2. Narcissistic desire for attention, stunted empathy
3. A pervasive feeling of powerlessness, alienation and insignificance and this notion that everyone around them simply doesn't care about them or their mental anguish.

Essentially the idea that "hurt people hurt people" , and that they are externalizing their private torment
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 No.134414

>>134318
There are dozens of factors OP, but if I had to guess most mass shootings come from latent or active criminal elements. Ending the War on Drugs and doing a Mao-style campaign to root out criminal elements and that would put an end to most mass shootings. How many gang members are there in the USA? A million? By, 1954, China's anti-bandit campaign had eradicated 1,160,000 bandits. Yeah sure they fought back and assassinated PLA soldiers, committed arson, poisoned their water, etc. but eventually through force they were eliminated. And that was only one region of China, there were literally thousands of different gangs, bandit groups, secret societies, etc. around the country that had to be dealt with. The USA has the ability to deal with the problem, its just there is no political will for it.
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 No.134415

>>134405
I think two things about that image are true:

>(1)


Most of the men in that photo are in the category of "stupid, hotheaded men with guns getting into an argument and indiscriminately firing into a crowded house party / strip club / streetracing event etc."

Which is a different phenomenon than someone who decides he's "had it" and decides to act out the Terminator at a Walmart.

>(2)


The madness of American identity politics is that, if you're a liberal, you can't say anything negative about black people. If you're a conservative, you don't care about black people except to trot them out in an argument to prove that only black people cause problems. This society isn't sick at all, it's not a depraved, warmongering empire whose chickens are coming home to roost! No siree.

And that's why whoever made that image, made that image.
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 No.134416

>>134410
>"Mass shooting" is tiny, insignificant, arbitrary subset of gun related homicides that your government uses as an excuse to take away guns, or just to posture around the issue for electoral reasons.

You're putting numbers ahead of impact. It's not just about how many die. It's psychologically distressing and disturbing to find out that there is an epidemic of random killings and anyone could be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be slaughtered by a wonton psychopath. It creates a culture of terror.
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 No.134417

>>134416
Thats just the media playing it up.
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 No.134419

>>134416
>wrong place at the wrong time
Just don't live in a red state and you should be fine 99.99% of the time ;)
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 No.134421

>>134405
Gang violence is different even though the FBI classifies them the same. There is a practical motive. It's over money, turf, rivalries, or drugs. I'm more concerned with the random killings that seem to have no aim besides nihilistic mass murder.

What causes this nihilism?
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 No.134422

>>134417
Literally irrelivent.
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 No.134424

>>134417
It's more like a "canary in a coal mine." When the canary drops dead, it seems minor in isolation, but that's a warning there's poison in the air and should probably be investigated. There are a lot of "canaries" dropping dead in America.
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 No.134427

>>134410
Based comrade next time someone kills my family with the gun i will keep in mind how many people commit suicide and feel better
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 No.134433

>>134410
>shootugal
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 No.134435

Being an empire means at a societal level you don't consider human life sacred or worth protecting at all, combine that with a free market which creates a Hobbesian war of all against all and 3x as many guns as people and you get mass shootings. It's really that simple.
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 No.134438

>>134421
>What causes this nihilism?
see >>134435
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 No.134439

>>134392
>Mass shootings were almost completely unknown before the 1980s.
this basically connects it to neoliberalism then too
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 No.134440

>>134405
Judging by this years list the number should be higher
Although some are clearly retarded(like drive by shootings are clearly targeted) But damm life in america suck
In 1st of junuary there were 4 shootings in one day
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 No.134448

>>134427
t. Victim culture shitlib

>>134416
>It is important because mainstream media coordinates to make it important so it's important to begin with

>>134424
I have some homeopathic products to sell you.
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 No.134451

>>134448
unironickly you must be a copmplete dumbass to deny america has shooting issues there is almost like one shooting per day ,many are gangg related but others no so much
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 No.134454

>>134451
shootings aren't a real issue, it's all media
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 No.134456

>>134451
If you're not in a crime ridden hellhole then this shouldn't matter to you, and if you are then it shouldn't be a surprise
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 No.134457

>>134451
>Moving the goalposts from "mass shootings" to general gun violence

Thanks for conceding.
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 No.134459

>>134457
>>134456

>Mass shootings dont matter if it affects poor people

Based american psychopathy
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 No.134461

>>134459
welcome to hypernormalization bud
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 No.134463

Thread is over.

This is just some shitlib samefagging in place of upvotes, clutching pearls for gun control.
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 No.134464

>>134454
I'll tell you again, utterly irrelivent. The shootngs that happen affect the psyche of people in the country. If this feeling is amplified by the media literally does not matter.
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 No.134467

>>134448
Sociopathic stuff happening here
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 No.134468

>>134461
thats a meme tbh
In my country even poor people dying is considered bad and we arent in a fucking socilist paradice
>>134463
>muh gun control
Americans are cucked even with access to guns they dont organize enough to affect anything , guns in walmart doesnt mean you are scaring the goverment cuck
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 No.134469

>>134451
so buy a gun so you can defend yourself. duh
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 No.134472

>>134459
More like it doesn't matter if it affects lumpen and labor aristocrats. Actual proles tend to not be affected by this shit and it's generally just a paranoid excuse to take away the means to achieve revolution. If you're so concerned about so called "gun violence", carry one yourself or learn hand-to-hand combat.
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 No.134474

>>134464
>The shootngs that happen affect the psyche of people in the country
that literally hasn't been true since at least Sandy Hook if not earlier, much like mass homelessness and the opiate epidemic, it doesn't effect the psyche of the country because it's not really a country, it's a Hobbesian landscape of free market competition, there's no community or sense of shared purpose.
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 No.134476

>>134472
Serious question are all black people lumpen?
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 No.134479

>>134469
>seld defense culture
Doesnt exist in america ,literally either musterbation for boomers to larp as soldiers or psychopaths getting ready for a shooting
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 No.134481

>>134474
>that literally hasn't been true since at least Sandy Hook if not earlier
Not a burger but I think many in america absoloutely see these death perfromances play out on the streets of there country repetedly as an existential threat, if it has become normalized or no, if the media amplifies them or no.
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 No.134482

>>134481
He is a suburbanite he doesnt understand
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 No.134483

>>134481
>I think many in america absoloutely see these death perfromances play out on the streets of there country repetedly as an existential threat
If that was true they would politically organize to stop it, they don't and they haven't, so they don't really believe that
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 No.134485

>>134476
No, though in America at least there is a disproportionate amount, lumpenhood is defined by relation to means of production rather than race
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 No.134487

>>134482
Bullshit, I came out of an American high school, we had repeated mass shooting drills and shut the school down when someone found a .22lr casing on a school bus. It's just another part of being an American that you can't do anything about.
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 No.134488

Mass shootings are an issue but gun control in america is a larp
Not only its almost always filled with loopholes and used to control poc
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 No.134490

>>134487
>we had repeated mass shooting drills and shut the school down when someone found a .22lr casing on a school bus
See cuck space ,if you are poor our life means nothng
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 No.134491

>>134487
And what chance was there that the .22lr belonged to someone who actually wanted to shoot the place up? What if the person just wanted it for self defense or for personal reasons? Or for no reason at all? Are the police in America mind readers now?
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 No.134492

>>134483
>If that was true they would politically organize to stop it, they don't and they haven't, so they don't really believe that
Yes they do. that skinhead lib is in the media chatting gun control to huge marches, even we see her in europe.. stop lying.
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 No.134493

>>134490
a bunch of white children died at Sandy Hook and all that happened was stricter gun restriction in Connecticut itself, virtually nothing happened at the national level, no one's lives matter
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 No.134494

>>134492
marches aren't politics, they're virtue signalling
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 No.134495

>>134493


You dont understand ,one event wont change shit ,mass shootings are way more than school shootings
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 No.134496

>>134491
considering nothing happened, it was likely some kid that shot .22s on the weekend and it fell out of their pocket or something, they never even found who it belonged to, all it did was cause a bunch of unnecessary anxiety
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 No.134498

>>134483
b-b-but the media says it's a tragedy ! You can tell how important it is because of how much it features in electoral politics!

S-s-stop looking at facts and look at the "impact"(read media and electoral prominence prominence).

WHY WONT YOU THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!11one!

But seriously, you have to be aware that these are reddit points being samefagged in quick succession, flopping without the weight of botted upvotes. Come on now.
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 No.134500

>>134479
Oh you're right we should all just bend over to liblaw and let the right wing militias line us all against a wall when shit hits the fan, good idea, guns suck
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 No.134501

>>134496
Exactly, it's all fearmongering to disarm the proletariat, while gang violence runs rampant and the government and media refuses to say anything about it.
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 No.134502

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>>134472
>>134488
The long-term decline in gun ownership will do more to lead to gun control in the United States, a consequence of urbanization of the population. This is a long-term thing, it could be years before there are changes. But I think there will be more gun control eventually. If that number drops to 20%, well…

>>134413
Yeah, that all makes sense.

A few more things going off my other post, about guns specifically. I think the gun industry is trying to compensate for a falling rate of profit, because guns require tooling and the companies compete with each other in terms of precision tooling – you wouldn't exactly buy a gun from a company known to have shitty tooling so the gun blows up in your face. At the same time, guns retain value and can last 100 years if you maintain them. I haven't looked at the gun companies' books, but I wonder if they're facing a "crisis of overproduction," they have produced too many guns and how do you maintain profits to pay for the upkeep on the machines?

The needs of production drives the industry, and this is a dystopian capitalist society so this is what you have. You create new needs and wants for guns. That's the NRA's job, although they might even disappear because of a massive corruption scandal (of course). But they need to create fear, there's survivalism now so you can blow your foot off while shooting off the lid of your canned MREs while preparing for the apocalypse. And guns are more and more customizable and people will spend a lot of money customizing their zombie slayer AR-1500.

Then you have people with these weapons in a country that is largely urbanized now. Back in the 1950s, when you saw higher rates of gun ownership, the population was more rural, and people mostly owned bolt-action hunting rifles and shotguns.

>>134500
>let the right wing militias line us all against a wall when shit hits the fan
Now who's the paranoid one?
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 No.134503

>>134501
>it's all fearmongering to disarm the proletariat
considering how many of these things have happened and they still haven't dislodged the NRA from congress I doubt that
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 No.134505

>>134502
>Now who's the paranoid one
Don't fucking calling me paranoid faggot I grew up with these militia members you have no idea the intense sexual fetish these people have for guns and the future day of the rope, if you want to go down easy that's your choice
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 No.134506

>>134500
right wing militias are largely a meme if you don't live in either the Idaho panhandle or the Olympia peninsula in Washington state, even then a lot of them are literally ran by the FBI
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 No.134507

>>134501
i literally said >>134488
I never advocated for what you cucks talk about
I am saying that 1)no one is going ot take muh guns ,its imposible to happen and the libs get money of gun companies
2)The left wing millitias are good for self defence but they will be disarmed immediatly if they scare the state
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 No.134508

>>134505
if they were ever going to be a serious force they would be by now, but they're not, it's all spectacle
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 No.134509

>>134494
you are just being a contrarian faggot for the fuck of it. we are done here.
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 No.134511

>>134503
Considering they arrest people for so much as having things that look like guns in certain areas and have successfully stereotyped the working class as "mass shooter incels", I'd say they've already come a long way. NRA elites will be all too happy to bend over for the government as long as they keep their special privileges.
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 No.134513

>>134505
Okay then I'll join the army and take the side of the government.
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 No.134514

>>134511
>Considering they arrest people for so much as having things that look like guns
Poor poc you mean
>stereotyped the working class as "mass shooter incels",
Are you a suburbam incel?
Cause working class people are the victims here ,you onlu care about guns to larp as iww member other need them for self defence
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 No.134516

>>134506
>right wing militias are a meme
Spoken like a true urban elite.
Are you retarded or have you actually never been outside your little shithole. Drive a few hours south and I guarantee every town has at least 5 race-war ready lunatics armed to the fucking teeth. You have know idea what you're talking about
>>134508
>they would be a serious force by now
>it's all spectacle
Did you even see the capitol riot. Are you insane? Why do burger leftists have zero self-preservation instinct holy fuck, this country has only just started its journey to full blown fascism and you're already eagerly handing over your weapons, holy fuck I need to get out of this country holy shit
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 No.134517

>>134509
I'm really not, David Hogg or whatever isn't a serious political force and marches don't mean anything
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 No.134520

>>134514
>he thinks the IWW is revolutionary
Radlib detected
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 No.134521

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>>134516
>full blown fascism
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 No.134522

>>134521
Not just the half-microwaved fascism like a hot pocket where it's warm on the outside and cool on the inside… but full-blown fascism
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 No.134523

>>134516
the race war ready lunatics are what they pretend to be, they're pussies, they could've started the race war for real during the BLM stuff last year if they wanted but they didn't. They're comfortable suburbanites like everyone else.
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 No.134524

>>134513
>surely the army will defeat the fascists
lmao
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 No.134527

>>134516
>Did you even see the capitol riot
I did, they literally stood around and waited for Trump or the military to do something instead of declaring a provisional government or something, which they would have done if they were serious, they aren't. No one in America is serious, you're letting CNN take your brain over.
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 No.134528

>>134524
They've done it before. Since you mentioned the capitol "riot," a cop put one round in that girl's throat and they scattered. It's a shame, she didn't deserve to die.
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 No.134529

>>134516
>Did you even see the capitol riot. Are you insane?
The capitol protests were literally disenfranchised proles protesting a rigged election, and you want to demonize them? Let's be honest, you're no better than the gun grabbers itt
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 No.134530

>>134517
If the marches are effective are irrelivent tho… These kids -view this violence as an existential threat- and -believe what they are doing to be meaningful- due to various reasons. Your points are not at all relevant to wat i'm saying.
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 No.134533

Unironicly all gun control laws no matter how help full they are will be used against urban and poor rural proles
On the other hand suburban white kids itt crying about loosing their guns is retarded ,they are the cucks of the goverment and at best they have the guns as a hobby
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 No.134534

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>>134516
>capitol riot
>full blown fascism

You exposed yourself. Get out, radlib.
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>>134529
>The capitol protests were literally disenfranchised proles protesting a rigged election, and you want to demonize them?
I didn't pay a lot of attention to the election. If the Democrats really did rig it though, I'd probably respect them more.
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 No.134537

>>134535
Hey if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying
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 No.134541

>>134533
>Unironicly all gun control laws no matter how help full they are will be used against urban and poor rural proles
Literally so what?
Euro leftists are consistently more radical than US when they go into urban gureall mode, which they do so far more often, than the US despite most countries having strong anti-gun laws. What has americans gun rights ever got them exactly? Why should we care about them enough to actively defend this so called right?
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 No.134542

>>134530
Marches are literally just a government sanctioned outlet for manufactured discontent. If people started marching for something the government actually disapproved of, they would just be shot or run over with tanks.

>>134535
tl;dr it's common knowledge that the ruling class felt so threatened by Trump that they blatantly rigged the election in favor of a senile pedophile
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 No.134544

>>134542
>Marches are literally just a government sanctioned outlet for manufactured discontent. If people started marching for something the government actually disapproved of, they would just be shot or run over with tanks.
Are you not listening to anything I am telling you?! It is 100% besides the point!
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 No.134545

>>134542
>that the ruling class felt so threatened by Trump
this is just the other side of CNN brain, he wasn't a threat, if anything he was an embarrassment, the only things they actually cared about were his cadence and vocabulary, his governance is literally the same as any other Republican.
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 No.134546


>>134541
>Implying the 2nd amedment was about selling guns at walmart
They were supposed to be part of the millitias to kill the indians when they try to kick the colonist to the sea
In modern day is literally a LARP from both sides
I am just saying that 1)gun control to the point of europe cant happen
2)it can be usefull for poor black folk to defend themselves form kk and the police
Outside of that guns are just part of an identity
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 No.134547

>>134544
You're the one who's missing the point. The reason these marches are allowed is because the government wants the working class disarmed to prevent revolution. The only reason why "protest marches" exist is because the government supports them.

>>134545
Really, then why were all major media outlets against him? Why did the major figures in his own party turn against him? Why did proles left and right love him? You're clearly missing the bigger picture if you think Trump was in any way like the establishment politicians, he was a populist. A right wing populist, sure, but beggars cant be choosers.
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 No.134550

>>134547
>Why did proles left and right love him?
HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE TWO TIMES
AND THE DEMS STILL WON THE POOR VOTE JUST SAY YOU HATE NIGGERS YOU AMERETARD
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 No.134551

>>134547
>The only reason why "protest marches" exist is because the government supports them.
You could conceivably say that about any protest in the United States. Pro-Trump marches, of which there were plenty, by your own logic were allowed to happen because the government supports them to manufacture consent and prevent revolution. It's dumb babby logic.
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 No.134552

>>134547
>You're the one who's missing the point. The reason these marches are allowed is because the government wants the working class disarmed to prevent revolution. The only reason why "protest marches" exist is because the government supports them.
Okay retard, but what does this have anything to do with what i said?
IS this truely your brain on american education?
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 No.134553

>>134523
Listen faggot, I'm trying to tell you something here as someone who grew up in this scene - these people are serious about this shit and they're growing, the more this corona stuff goes on, the more the economy falters, the more shit they have to feed off, if you're comfortable with just handing in your guns or never owning guns when they're still out there recruiting people then you're insane.
>>134527
Exactly, they stood around waiting for Trump/military, so what happens when they actually get support from the military? It's not going to be long, a shit ton of them were ex or even current boots. Holy fuck, how can you not actually see how bad this situation is
>no one in america is serious
Go outside
>>134528
lmao she deserved to die
>>134529
what
>>134534
>radlib
>getting called a radlib for trying to get internet leftists to have some sort of self-preservation instinct
I don't think you know what a radlib is
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 No.134560

>>134550
>HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE TWO TIMES
Oops, I almost forgot his popularity has been DEBOONKED by CNN, the same source I thought you folks said was unreliable is now suddenly reliable when it comes to talking about Trump. Curious. But no, retard, overwhelmingly the proles voted Trump, and in time the truth will come out for all to see.

>>134551
Pro-Trump marches were heavily suppressed and met with lethal force, ie the capitol protests.

>>134552
Look if you dont have a point just admit it rather than continuing your babbling, it'll make things a lot easier for everyone else
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 No.134564

>>134560
>CNN controles the goverment and the counting procces ,for some reason they allowed him to win the first time but not the second despite popular will being clear
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 No.134566

>>134564
He won the first time because the ruling class got overly cocky and thought they didn't need to try, and even then they still tried to proclaim his victory illegitimate.
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 No.134572

>>134566
Yes both time he lost the popular vote ,even if your cringe amerikkkan take is true you are still wrong
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 No.134576

>>134405
Not a lot of women mass shooters.
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 No.134577

>>134560
>Look if you dont have a point just admit it rather than continuing your babbling, it'll make things a lot easier for everyone else
I had a very clear point you mongoloid, People in america do these these theatres of violence as an existential threat, your mealthy mouthed nonsense about protests has nothing to do with anything. Now go back you utter halfwit.
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 No.134579

>>134553
>if you're comfortable with just handing in your guns or never owning guns when they're still out there recruiting people then you're insane.
To be honest I do own some guns, but I don't like to post about it on the internet, but I also feel there's not a lot we can do about these larger structural forces like declining gun ownership rates. That's a secular, long-term trend in a country of 300+ million people. Plus, if the majority of the people decide they want to crack down on guns, and they want the government to do, what are we supposed to do? Fight the government on the side of these same right-wing militias? Knock yourself out, but I think I'm good on that. This kind of arguing over positions "on this or that" like gun control is a really liberal frame for this issue and it's boring. It's like Reddit conversations.

>Exactly, they stood around waiting for Trump/military, so what happens when they actually get support from the military?

Then you're fucked. You think these DSA people are going to launch a guerrilla war against the military? It's not going to happen. My advice would be: shut your mouth and wave a miniature American flag when the tanks roll down the street. Also, what matters is money, ultimately, I feel. Just try to calculate how much a full-blown insurgency would cost. You're going to quit your day job?

To fire an RPG at a U.S. convoy in Iraq cost the Mahdi Army around $250 per insurgent attack (not including the cost of the rockets) and that's after prices fell quite a bit because of oversupply of unemployed young men willing to fire rockets at Humvees. That money adds up and the U.S. is a much bigger country than Iraq.

>>134560
>Pro-Trump marches were heavily suppressed and met with lethal force, ie the capitol protests.
Well yeah when they stormed the capitol like a bunch of retards. And then they acted shocked that the cops actually shot one of them.
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 No.134580

>>134576
That is because Women are Beta Males who are not in gangs and therefore dont do criminal shootings. Women are also Alpha Chad Males and are not as antisocial
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 No.134582

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>>134553
>MUH CAPITOL INSURRECTIONISTS
Fuck off with your capitol riot propaganda.

>listen faggot

You are fully compliant with the chan-slang guidelines of 2007, agent. I commend you on your progress.

>Exactly, they stood around waiting for Trump/military

They stood around because they were led by the nose the whole time in order to manufacture a grandiose end to "the Trump regime", a synthetic 9/11 that the status quo could keep milking in the face of the NOTHING they had to deliver to the US population. Orange man is gone, his heinous tweets are over, now what?
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 No.134583

>>134576
How surprising, you know I always thought we were the more violent, sadistic gender despite the fact that the vast majority of violent criminal offenders across every culture in the world are men
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 No.134584

>>134553
I spy with my little eye, a radlib putting on a poor disguise
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 No.134591

>>134553
I AM GOING TO SPAM THIS ON EVERY GLOWING THREAD ABT THE RAID
AS SOMEONE FROM MARYLAND RIGHT OUTSIDE OF DC, THE "TRUMPIAN HORDE" YOU FAGGOTISTAS CRY ABT ARE LOWLIFE REDNECKS FROM WEST VIRGINIA
THIS IS A NOTHINGBURGER
Also
>implying the Military is on Trump's side
this isnt HOI4
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 No.134612

>>134369
>All violent movies should be replaced with anime slice of life.
>The drinks should have HRT secretly added.
Based. But realistically, the main causes are psychosocial in nature. Violent movies and mass shootings are both reflections of america's psychotic, violent "culture." Media perpetuates and reproduces said culture, and mass killings result when that culture is coupled with severe alienation and a tendency towards reactionary ideologies.
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 No.134614

>>134579
>shut your mouth and wave a miniature American flag when the tanks roll down the street
Yeah, already planning on it, there's no left wing movement in this country to stand up to any of this when it happens anyways, we're fucked the second a real fascist rolls around
>>134582
What about my posts glows to you, lol? Wouldn't the feds be pro-gun control? I'm confused
>>134584
I think you're misinterpreting me - I'm not stupid enough to think Trump is a fascist, he's not, it's pre-fascism, I'm worried about what comes in the next 20 years
>>134591
Again, the military is not on orange man's side, he's not a fascist. The problem is: what happens when we get a younger, smarter version of orange man, and the military actually likes him? Then what
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 No.134629

>>134614
>what happens when we get a younger, smarter version of orange man, and the military actually likes him?
it just cannot happen, fearmongering aside give me names.
>Tucker Carlson? Why would he give up a cushy job at FOX?
>Tom Cotton? 0 charisma
>Matt Gaetz? 0 charisma
>Ben Shapiro? Crowder? You'd have to be desperate
The truth is that everyone in the faux-populist movement is a grifter or submits to a grifter, no one is going to come out as the messiah ESPECIALLY considering Trump just did that. Sure voters have the memories of goldfish but it doesnt change the fact that unless some other billionaire Bloomberg's their way in there won't be a 2nd Trump
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 No.134631

>>134629
And even if a billionaire does appear out of thin air, whos to say they wont just pull off a nationwide grift as Trump did for 4 years?
It's all just damn theatre
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 No.134634

>>134579
>To fire an RPG at a U.S. convoy in Iraq cost the Mahdi Army around $250 per insurgent attack
That's almost nothing, are you retarded?
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 No.134636

>>134614
>Not fighting anyway when even certain death awaits you.
Unbased and not annil pilled.
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 No.134637

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 No.134665

>>134637
While reading about people who are about to be executed engaging in a last ditch effort to survive is inspiring, it is not what proles should base their strategy on. We are not being exterminated en masse, there is no reason to engage in what are basically mass suicide attacks. We have time to do better.
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 No.134668

>>134665
Isn't the context them proto-fascist american militas taking power? at that point most people like us are ded mate. does not mean you should walk into the prisons, camps, ditches, etc. without a bite.
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 No.134673

>>134665
I also take issue with the 'engaging in a last ditch effort ot survive' being what this is or how inspiring it would be if they did that….
What do you think' Whoever works more slowly, reaches peace more quickly' means exactly to a factory of sabotaging slave-labouring untermensch?! The point here was never to try to survive.
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 No.134703

>>134560
>But no, retard, overwhelmingly the proles voted Trump, and in time the truth will come out for all to see
lmao
>Pro-Trump marches were heavily suppressed and met with lethal force, ie the capitol protests
double kek
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 No.134717

>>134529
A pretty decent chunk of the Capitol Hill protesters were muh smol biznizz micro porkies, they werent even the baste and redpilled salt of the earth work a day conservatives you obviously idolize
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 No.134719

Why is this "Capitol rioters" were "proles" meme a thing here?
Was it not fairly decently established that a high proportion of them, to say nothing of the vanguard that stormed the building, were petty bourgeois?
Some were literally private jet folk?
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 No.134723

>>134719
it's just one r/stupidpol fag ITT, and apparently now the nazi flag bot
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 No.134725

So I was reading comments on msm YouTube about the recent shooting. The vile hatred for the mentally ill is kinda scaring me. Soon as more and more of this happens, I fear the neurotypicals will start to call for a "culling" of the mentally ill for "safety". Seeing as this country will never allow adequate mental healthcare, with no where to turn and the shootings piling up the bloodlust will grow.
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 No.134734

>>134668
"People like us" are just proles. It was proles that killed the fascists last time, if some new reactionaries take over it will be us that kills them again.
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 No.134763

Remember that overt propaganda is not the only for of propaganda.

Observe how anons take the legitimate points made against radlib propaganda around MAGAs and media hysteria about "mass shooters" and it's bizarre cherrypicking nature on what constitutes a threat to the average citizen or it's causes, ie material conditions and degrading mental health, and run with these arguments, turning them into straight up MAGA apologism and racebait.

This, is poisoning the well by making up strawmen and false flagging as those strawmen. Don't be surprised then when the conversation is overtaken with divisive statements broadly denouncing those positions and infighting.
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 No.134765

>>134424
>>134422
>>134416
you have more chance of dying in a car crash than dying in a mass shooting, stfu
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 No.134769

>>134765
Abolish cars RIGHT NOW
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 No.134773

>>134318
Monday 2:46pm
only it's just a noodle in the end 😑
Monday 3:47pm
strategy.guide's profile picture
Yeah. Idk I was coming off mushrooms when I saw/sent that
Yesterday 6:24 PM
https://redpilled.ca/unhinged-minnesota-cops-burst-out-laughing-as-they-repeatedly-shoot-innocent-unarmed-man-through-his-front-door-they-keep-shooting-him-when-hes-bleeding-out-and-crying-for-help-graphic-v/
https://youtu.be/qoU6tv3C7QE
here's the video that site is sketchy
strategy.guide's profile picture
Yeah. Awful. Don't think I want to see the video. So despicable
The US does not care about addressing the socioeconomic problems that create domestic terror and violence. Police reform, a universal basic income, and rebuilding infrastructure including nationwide high speed internet would do more to address the ongoing violence than anything. These attacks like Colorado recently and in Atlanta are not isolated spontaneous events. They're the result of generations of austerity and a move towards neoliberalism and a carceral society.
Every one of you is so atomized from the ability to make change that even saying hello to your neighbor is a bizarre occurrence. This is intentional. This is a feature of neoliberalism, this is not a flaw. In a nation where the prevailing socioeconomic system seeks to atomize and separate you from the abilities to make changes in your world hand in hand with the people you live around, saying hello to someone is revolutionary.
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 No.134776

>>134763
you can thank Eglin AFB and Reddit for this kind of conditioning
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 No.134997

>>134769
that is kind of my point tbh. mass shootings are just great spectacles that people love to worry about because of their dramatic nature. at this point it's become a ritualistic national event of shooting, reports of shooting, interview of people on the scene, political takes, politicians giving their opinions, president shaking hands of victim's families etc. etc. It's kind of part of popular culture lol. Meanwhile cager culture kills tens of thousands of people per year in the US. 6 million car crashes in total. 3 million injuries per year.
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 No.135060

Part mental illness/part no social safety.
If you live in a society where nothing structurally supports your development as a human being, why wouldn’t you expect a lashing out?
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 No.135108

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>>134629
>what happens when we get a younger, smarter version of orange man, and the military actually likes him?
>it just cannot happen, fearmongering aside give me names.

BROWN JUCHE WITH ALOHA CHARACTERISTICS
TULCELS RISE UP
2036
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 No.135125

>>135060 my comment here >>134725 shows that not only will this mental health crisis get worse, the social Darwinist bloodlust will only grow. When you can't go after the causes your only option is to attack the effects.
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 No.135168

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>>135060
>if you live in a society
>society
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 No.135171

>>134533
Correct Position.
Take the guns away from petty boug white kids and give the guns to proles
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 No.135177

>>134533
Yeah but you can't say that out loud, maybe we should present it as making guns cheaper to defend the "good guy with a gun" narrative that some shitlibs like to eat up.
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 No.137112

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The social and political roots of mass shootings in America
>The framework of the official debate over the horrific regularity of mass shootings like that in Parkland, Florida obscures the underlying causes: social inequality and war.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/14/marc-m14.html
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 No.137141

>>134520
It was and still is.
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 No.157846

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>It was and still is.
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 No.157876

>>134393
actually you're both wrong it's Marilyn Manson, which is why mass shootings started in the 90s
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 No.157881

>>157876
Wrong. Rock and Roll causes shootings.
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 No.157981

>>157846
Okay, tell us how it's not.
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 No.157994

Why is it bad?
>the simplest Surrealist act consists of dashing down into the street, pistol in hand, and firing blindly, as fast as you can pull the trigger, into the crowd. Anyone who at least once in his life has not dreamed of thus putting an end to the petty debasement and cretinization in effect has a well-defined place in that crowd, with his belly at barrel level.
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 No.157996

>>157846
>bump a 2 week old thread just to soyjak
have you considered hanging yourself
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 No.158017

I've got a bit of trouble formatting my responses to some of your claims but im gonna try my best.

>and not ideologically motivated violence such as terrorism.

The thing is there is often a lot of overlap between someones personal ideologies and beliefs and them doing the attack even if it was an explicitly political action in itself.
The Chief FBI investigator at columbine summed it up well in a particular book he wrote where he debunks / disproves the myth that the two guys were "depressed loners who got bullied and thats why they did it" he pointed out "No. This was a born to kill, tortures small animals in the garden shed psychopath and a boy of noticably lower intelligence who he had basically manipulated committing what effectively amounts to an attempt at causing a terrorist incident"
>inattentiveness to warning signs.
Using Columbine as an example again we can see that even if you see all the warning signs this may not work. The truth is their parents in this case unironically did everything they physically could do to prevent this from happening (They stopped keeping guns around the house, they got their boys to see psychologists, They got them on Anti-Psychotics and Anti-Depressants respectively etc and basically none of it worked.
>There seems to be an intersection of causes, psychological, cultural, and sociological,
As the FBI agent i mentioned earlier in his book said "there is no archtype" taking the actual average of all shootings and not just like Sandy hook and columbine, Mass shootings have basically the same likelyhood to occur in EVERY age group, social-group, and whether or not the person is popular the only defining feature he could find between them was that 99.9% of them were men.
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 No.158019

>>158017
*Wasn't explicitly
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 No.158021

>>158017
>No. This was a born to kill, tortures small animals in the garden shed psychopath and a boy of noticably lower intelligence who he had basically manipulated committing what effectively amounts to an attempt at causing a terrorist incident
<People are born evil
You are some fucking liberal
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 No.158022

>>158021
Alright hotshot, what the fuck would you do about someone always intent on committing sadistic torture and murder, who's resisted all treatment and can only be stopped by their own death?
What do you call that?
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 No.158025

>>158021
Eric Harris was a diagnosed on paper psychopath with fucked up brain-chemistry who would have literally have become like Ted Bundy if he and Klebold didn't decide to just shoot a bunch of people at once.

He literally writes in his journal as the FBI pointed out how one of his initial plans was to literally start kidnapping, raping and killing 1st year girls and being like a serial killer basically

Obviously no one is born completely evil but like you have a birth defect where you have completely fucked up brain chemistry where you associate Rape + Murder = good then yeah your pretty close.
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 No.158034

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>>134542
>it's common knowledge that the ruling class felt so threatened by Trump that they blatantly rigged the election in favor of a senile pedophile
It's not "common knowledge" at all, in fact it's blatant fucking evidence-free disinformation cooked up to facilitate a Republican victim complex. On Planet Earth, there's more reason to believe that Trump and Republican operatives did more to rig the general election in their favor than Biden. In all but two of 24 states in which exit polls were performed deviations were in Trump's favor, seven of which failed the state department's own standard for verifying foreign elections. In the real fucking world of serious election scrutiny, it turns out Biden won in such a blowout that most of the vote flipping and voter suppression didn't really matter this time around.
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 No.158047

>>134318
The term "running amok" is a Malaysian loan word for the phenomenon of young men suddenly snapping and going on a murderous rampage. It's a universal phenomenon that probably has sociobiological, primate roots.

Other cultures have knife spree killers, or arsonists, or vehicular homiciders, or mad bombers. Guns however are a unique killing instrument in that they provide distance and removal. Killing someone with a knife is an almost intimate affair. You're likely to even get your victim's blood on you. So it's more terrifying. More to the point, a person with a knife can be overwhelmed by even a small group of people. A person with a gun cannot.

The point is that there's nothing in particular about American society that causes mass murder, it's that it's easier to do it. The means to do so are sold like candy bars at your local corner shop. Killing someone without a gun takes work. And it's inefficient.
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 No.158051

>>158025
>fucked up brain-chemistry
Fellow rick and morty fan i see
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 No.158052

>>158047
Extreme shitlib take.
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 No.158067

>>158052
Not an argument
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 No.158091

>>158051
take your meds, schizo
>>158067
gargle my nuts
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 No.158094

>>158047
pure libbery
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 No.158096

>>158094
in what way
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 No.158100

>>158091
>>158094
Not. An. Arg.U.Ment
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 No.158104

>>158047
Good post, but I disagree with this part:
>It's a universal phenomenon that probably has sociobiological, primate roots.

It is a universal phenomenon, but I think it has societal roots and not sociobiological roots. I think amok is the result of societal alienation and not some primitive instinct.
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 No.158116

>>158104
Well obviously society can make things more or less likely to happen, but I think the roots are fundamentally biological. If they weren't then why are mass shooters literally, yes literally, more than 99% male?
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 No.158122

>>158116
>99% male?
I can agree on that and I don't deny the biological factor. But ultimately, I think that the envoirement/society trumps biology. It is also noteworthy, that the majority amok perpetrators are neurotypicals.
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 No.158128

>>158122
Yeah I think we're agreeing but just saying it in different ways. Biology is the default setting, but environment can override it.
> the majority amok perpetrators are neurotypicals.
The majority of people are neurotypical, so that makes sense.
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 No.158600

>>158128
I'm honestly surprised how little correlation there is between autism and mass violence, given that the suicide rate is over nine times higher for autists.
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 No.158612

>>158116
Sexuation is an ontological concept that precedes biology.
What it means to be a male is fundamentally different, subjectively, than what it means to be a female, and we needn't resort to the tautological biology of this as the bedrock causal explanation; there is an ontological antecedent.
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 No.158613

>>158116
Sexuation is an ontological concept that precedes biology.
What it means to be a male is fundamentally different, subjectively, than what it means to be a female, and we needn't resort to the tautological biology of this as the bedrock causal explanation; there is an ontological antecedent. >>158612 Source: What Is Sex? By Alenka Zupancic
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 No.158650

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Mass shootings are a fundamental component of the white supremacist settler state America. One of the main reasons for the second amendment was the shooting of natives and suppressions of slave uprisings.

This dynamic of a superior powered Aryann white man versus a "brown horde" of inferiors or mass of unarmed has a lot of similarity with American mass shootings, it is also no coincidence that majority of the perpetrators are white men. These kinds of things also still happen to this day in Iraq and Afghanistan, where one person is able with the push of a button drop a bomb and kill 100 "uncivilized" brown persons, but we here in the west don't notice this ideological component of these warcrimes.
Exactly because the ideological component of these shootings and warcrimes are so fundamental to the American settler project and most ex-colonialist and still imperialist Western nations is the exact reason these people are unable to grasp the root cause of this. They can't differentiate their own ideology from that of the perpetuator, so that's why most of these things seem "apolitical" or without motives and non-ideological to them. All the while they have no problem doing deep psychoanalysis and ideological/religious critique when Middle Eastern men blows themselves up or shoots civilians and instantly label them as "Islamist fundamentalist extremist" and terrorist with clear ideological goals but can't do that to a white guy that does the same thing, they are even unable to call him a terrorist. (Mainly because "Terrorist" is a political and ideological term, which the white guy doesn't have according to the west they are just "lone wolves" or "insane" )
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 No.158689

>>158612
>>158613
So basically, because different individuals have different primary or secondary sex characteristics or produce different gametes that they are inherently different and their differences can't be overridden by environmental factors or conscious human thought? This is incredibly defeatist, essentialist, and is basically the "yooman naytur" argument unironically. Are you the anon who read some random feminist works from the 1970s and now thinks he's the shit and tells people to "take the TERF/gender abolition pill?" If so, you should probably go to /pol/ or maybe even BlackPillFeminism on Saidit: https://saidit.net/s/BPF/new/, whatever floats your boat. Whatever you do, just gtfo away from /leftypol/, and don't come back.
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 No.158851

>>158650
This is post colonial brainrot speaking. It's an anti materialist reading.
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 No.158891

>>134363
This ^

A great example of this would be the UK, which people's guns got completely confiscated. But now, there is a knife-stabbing epidemic, where some braindead politicians seek to regulate regular kitchen knifes for registration and such.
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 No.158898

>>134534
>>134553
You are correct and wrong (Big brain centrist moment)
Capital hill "rioters" were just retarded boomers with brain prions from McDonalds getting entrapment oped by the FBI basically and there was never any threat of US liberal-democracy being interfered with by them.

At the same time there are legit schizo's in like the worst redneck flag fucker parts of the south and like Idaho and Oregon/Washington who want to start the fucking race war and kill every minority on earth or something and are actually dangerous schizos
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 No.158899

>>158891
<Idiot for not realising this thread is already over 173 replies long

>>158650
This ^ based take
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>>158891
Let's look at that "great example", the UK.
Compare and contrast the length of the list of massacres in the UK back to 61AD:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Great_Britain

With the length of the list of mass shootings in America just last year:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2020

Even when you exclude the incompetents who didn't actually kill anyone, you still wind up with more fatal mass shootings in America in one year than Britain has had massacres in the past 2000.
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This one is in Bryan, TX near a school.

1 person dead, 4 hurt. A cop got hit.

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