No.1417506
Just learned this is on tomorrow:
>Covering up fash tags in Sydney with posters promoting the Wildcat Radical Zine Fair, which will take place on Saturday April 1st at St Peters Town Hall in Sydenham.>The event is free and will go from 10am - 4pm.Solidarity is also holding Keep Left 2023 (
https://keepleft.info) on the 8th-9th in Glebe, Sydney. That link has a playlist of talks from past events so it will probably be recorded and uploaded if you can't attend.
Finally, reminder that the culty salties are hosting Marxism Conference on 14th-17th April in Melbourne.
No.1417551
>>1417500Why did he get taken away?
No.1417604
>>1417506Cool but isn't sticker posters really expensive?
No.1417616
>>1417604How expensive can they be? Plus if it's anarchists there's a good chance they just make wheatpaste or similar.
No.1421467
>>1420128I doubt it. I mean, there's probably some basic standard infiltration/informant attempts like with all non-liberal parties but I doubt they have enough fucks to give to waste resources leading the thing. The worst they're doing is attending protests and yelling at a nazi gym.
No.1421528
HUNG PARLIAMENT, BITCH.The Legislative Assembly ('lower house') results are stable. The Liberal/National coalition has been defeated, losing 9 seats, while Labor has gained 7, leaving them 2 short of a majority. This will force them to appeal to 2 or more crossbenchers to gain majority votes against the coalition on controversial issues.
>Who's sitting on the crossbench in NSW parliament, and what they'll be asking from Laborhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-29/nsw-election-who-is-sitting-on-the-crossbench/102154828There has also been a shift in the Legislative Council. While this was already hung as of 2019-2023 (Lib/Nat 17 seats, 21 needed for majority), the balance has shifted towards Labor, and the crossbench has moved significantly. If I'm reading the results correctly (they only vote in half the senate per election) and assuming they're stable enough:
>Labor: 16 (+2)>Lib: 10 (-1)>Nat: 5 (-1)>Greens: 4 (+1)>Shooters,Fishers,Farmers: 1 (–)>One Nation: 2 (–)>Animal Justice: 1 (-1)>Liberal Democrats [lolberts]: 1 (+1)>Legalise Cannabis Party: 1 (+1)>Fred Nile: 0 (rekt)This means, for example, you only need Labor, Greens and the Animal Justice guy or the Legal Weed guy in order to pass something with majority in both houses. This (in theory) gives bargaining power to Greens and other seats for issues the Coalition may oppose.
Oh, and for those wondering: (not final, but we're close)
[assemb] Socialist Alliance - 1,294 (+86). Last.
[council] Socialist Alliance - 14,238 (+1,044). Last out of Above the Line
[council] Socialist Equality Party - (they were 'Group K' on the Council ballot, and you could only vote for them in a below the line vote): 49. Second last in total, behind all the conspiracy nuts.
The assembly results can be weird, because they fielded only 2 candidates, one in Heffron (near UTS and USYD, where their headquarters/library is) and one in Newcastle, but both came last in their electorate.
They did lose by 600 to the Small Business Party (1 candidate whatsoever), by 2,500 to Public Education Party (8 candidates) who were typically the worst performing candidate, even below the lower independants. But even in their chosen hotspots, sallies also performed among the worst candidates of anywhere.
No.1421590
>>1421528The Sallies should just fucking stop running in state elections honestly, they get smashed every time and waste so much of their limited money.
No.1421605
>>1421590They have approximately zero presence.
Maybe it's because I'm not on a uni campus or particularly present in the activism scene, but apart from a couple of posters in the days before the election (right next to everyone else's) I don't know how they expect anyone to even know they exist. At least the salties
have a reputation, even that garbage is better than being invisible when you're registering for elections.
No.1421612
>>1421605 [cunt'd]
To compare this to say, salties who have repeatedly plastered every electrical box and every bus stop within a 5km radius of Newtown for a conference that isn't even in NSW, or even Solidarity putting posters up ahead of their conference, and similar social justice movements. I've been up near the sallies' HQ a couple of times a week because of temp work nearby and unless you happen to walk past their office and peep in, there is no other evidence of their existence in the surrounding areas.
Well, their name was mentioned in the fine print of an anti-eviction event poster, alongside literally a dozen other orgs like CPA, Food not Bombs and NSW Greens.
No.1421622
>>1417584You have to apologize to an aboriginal person to get your labor voucher certified.
No.1422780
>>1421605>>142161299% of the population confuses the sallies and salties. Every time the salties do something stupid, it backfires on the sallies too.
No.1424100
>>1422780You're deluding yourself. At most, 9% of the population conflates the sallies and the salties.
90% aren't aware of either.
No.1424967
>>1421605>>1421612Why though? Why can't the Sallies seem to get it up while the Salties multiply with Solidarity and VicSoc?
No.1425779
>>1424967If you're asking me, I don't even know what they
do do.
There's like a 50% chance they actually exist, you know?
No.1425878
>>1425779>There's like a 50% chance they actually exist, you know?Sallies are…
Spooks?
No.1425889
>>1425873You should wear the mask to counter facial detection
No.1425948
>>1425873It's so they don't spot the ASIO agents.
No.1427002
>>1421528ABC is listing definite LC, remove 1 from Labor, add 1 to One Nation and 1 to SSF.
Gross.
No.1427003
>>1425873Because COVID still exists and keeps on evolving
No.1427008
>>1425873"Marxism Conference" is by the cultie salties (Socialist Alternative, the organization this is about:
>>1310295 )
The last time it was held in Melbourne, they kicked out and (poorly) stalked some YouTuber for having a sense of humour and interviewing a couple of cheerful attendees who took apology selfies with him afterwards. Was it as embarrassing this time?
No.1427009
>>1425878Sallies are a social contruct.
No.1427924
>>1427281Based if they get paid adult minimum wage.
No.1429072
>>1427924comrade that defeats the whole purpose
No.1429085
>>1427281So child labor is legal in NSW
No.1430081
I am going to vote yes for the aboriginal vote because if I don't and Labor loses then it's going to be a lose for Labor
Australians don't want losers in power so they will get kicked out
No.1430789
Do you think there will be a republic soon, Aussieanons?
No.1430870
>>1430789eh, I feel a lot of people consider it a ton of work for little gain, and one less backup plan for a disastrous government.
So I don't have confidence we're leaving in the next 5 years.
No.1430873
Where do orgs put out calls to the public, like for protests and counterprotests? I don't feel like scouring the suburbs for posters or joining facebook.
No.1430874
>>1430870 (moi)
>and one less backup plan for a disastrous government"checks and balances" was the phrase I was looking for
No.1430885
>>1430789Possibly, but the question is, what SORT of republic?
No.1431149
>>1430873Go on twitter. White rose soc has most of your antifa needs. You'd probably have to get a burner FB account as most of the unions still use 'em (Boomer base). 'Strike Updates' is a good FB page. I think there's an antifa telegram somewhere.
>>1429070lol
No.1431216
>>1431149>White rose soc has most of your antifa needs. Is this an aus WR? link pls
No.1431771
>>1431333Thank you, comrade.
>We are also on Mastodon [ https://kolektiva.social/@thewhiterosesocietyau ] as a placeholder for now.Hey, at least they had the foresight, since Twitter has been kicking more and more media outlets and journalists.
No.1431795
>>1431333My only little gripe is that the feed is filled with US pol retweets and spectacle and arguing with literally whos.
I can filter to just show their media-attached posts
https://nitter.net/WhiteRoseSocAU/media and grab the RSS feed of it, even though that might miss out on a couple of important retweets.
No.1431825
>>1431795well it's what you can expect from antifa types, disorganised movementist that place more emphasis on surveillance rather than confrontation
No.1431901
>>1431825Well, it's more what I expect from unprofessional (that's not an insult) disorganized twitter accounts.
No.1434284
>>1433807wtf I've never heard of this dude?
HOW?
No.1434323
>>1430873Why don't orgs try and recruit people from leftypol? Are they unaware of this website's existence, despite being the best place to discuss leftist theory?
No.1434393
>>1434323Because we have approximately 5 Australians in total, across multiple states. derp.
CPUSA anon at least has a potential audience of dozens or maybe a hundred.
No.1434508
>>1433807They were cool back in the day but they left absolutely nothing behind save the Tent Embassy. But to be fair that was (and still is) the majority of the left back then. Absolutely no lasting orgs, so if you have an indigenous person with a hint of political awareness they end up going straight to the government, where the result is what you can imagine.
Here is Gary Foley's website, there's lots there, maybe you can get something out of it:
http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/indexb.html No.1434973
>>1434525I know at the end of the day he;s a Liberal PM, but out of the Liberal PMs he was the closest to alright.
No.1435003
>>1434525This report is downright unprofessional, it sucks. Don't get me wrong, Murdoch deserves prolonged prison violence at best. Most of what the report is saying is reasonable or true. But it's a shitty report that sounds like an extended twitter post.
… holy shit is that the same guy at 1:47 getting talked over as in this old Chaser's episode from 2007? vidrel
No.1436226
>>1436021Wow she is body shaming those men what a sexist, racist lengthist.
No.1436340
>>1436021I want to vote for her to make the media seethe.
No.1439082
>>1439074Yup, I'm thinking anarchists are a better bet for action and sallies for… Idk structure?
No.1439100
>>1439082I might have some free time in the coming weeks where I'll be in the area, I should just literally ask what their deal is and what they've recently been involved in, give them the benefit of doubt before I keep talking smack about them here.
Their site says that apart from their electoral work (apparently worthless in their home state) and their news paper, they're "active in campaigns", and focus on "seek[ing] out opportunities to work with other parties and individuals and to regroup with other forces to advance the movement for social change".
I see this as being just support glue, structure, which can be valuable but isn't where I shine. I have skills and networking isn't one of them.
I'll probably end up just adding GreenLeft's nifty events page to my feed reader and wait for something meaningful to pop up.
No.1440418
>>1439837tell us a damn tale ye bloody mariner
No.1440722
>>1439823ooooh that looks like it could be interesting…
No.1442489
>>1442057I can't believe I wasted an hour watching this.
>can't even pronounce Straya correctlyTypical Seppo.
No.1443685
>>1442969It has a similar system to the US where it uses the prisoners as a labour force. It is actually really crazy how they have it down, basicly work-houses.
No.1443700
>>1443692I don't really care what your graph says anon i was just answering your question because you're to lazy to use a search engine, despite even the fact that aus has the highest percent of private prisons in the world, over double that of the USA, you should know already. no need to be a fucking prick.
No.1443708
>>1443700>yournot mine
>anonthat's "comrade" to you, comrade
>i was just answering a jokeThe problem is you took a joke seriously and you're still taking it seriously and getting angry about a joke in reply to that joke because you're too lazy or stubborn to open and read an image.
>despite even the fact that aus has the highest percent of private prisons in the worldNon-sequitur statistic.
And seeing as you're bitching about them being too lazy to check the answer to their joke claim, it's fair to bitch about you not doing it either and realizing Australia is about half way down the list at around #100 (USA is #6 btw).
>no need to be a fucking prickWell, I really feel like I do, having read your hypocritical bitchy reply. We expect a higher level of shitposting here, comrade! Take 5 and come back when you find some humour.
No.1443825
>>1443822No wonder they're pivoting to VicSoc
>meanwhile Sallie literally dying of old age>>1439837WHERE'S THE STORY CUNT? No.1443837
>>1427008I was one of the lads taking a photo with him, cool guy honestly and actually had a nice talk to him about socialism before the saltfags went autismo and proceeded to lolcow their organisation even further (its so great these guys are the face of the australian radical left)
The Saltie gangstalking was hilarious, this one retard was full stasi larping and really obviously following me and my mate around, doing his best to be "discrete" about it, we turned around and asked him what he was doing and he looks away going "uhhh ummm" and walks off. If they just didn't react like spergs Lewis wouldent have made a bit out of them, and the only content he woulda had was making fun of the half dozen proud boys there.
Atleast I got to steal some shit from their library, fun day.
No.1444472
>>1443837Should have called them an Stalinist NKVD supporter.
No.1444479
>>1444393oh right that's why i didn't go to work today
no, and fuck all the troops since 1945, as well as many of the ones before then too
No.1444817
>>1444393Yeah, but I had to take a shit in the bush.
No.1446949
fuck
No.1446970
>>1444393I usually do go
But this year I realised that the ceremony would feature a shit tone of obnoxious Ukraine worship and I was like "yeah nah fuck this"
No.1448287
Are Australians literal barbarians or something? I see so much racist shit from them it’s kinda shocking.
No.1448291
>>1448287They are reactoid colonizer scum.
No.1449145
>>1448269Only if you're a woman.
No.1449170
>>1448269no he's a reactionary croat that puts economics rather than politics in command
No.1449188
>>1449172I'm all for giving aboriginals a bigger say, but the bill is a bit too vague as of right now. I'm also sympathetic to the argument that it's being used in such a way that it would push abbos away from a more genuine form of self-determination.
No.1449391
>>1449172I'm vooting yes but not expecting much.
No.1450471
>>1449172No to express my disapproval for the ALP.
No.1450529
Mappy Hay Day cunts
No.1451340
>>1450529Hell yeah comrade.
No.1451359
lol there's a segment live on ABC news about cars ramming into shops with class windows in NT over the May Day long weekend.
Business Owners be cryin on tv
No.1452507
>>1451359>Business Owners be cryin on tvbassed?
No.1458268
>>1458242If this americanisation of politics is not welcome here then why are they allowed to do this Mr Daniel Andrews
I remember well the time I witnessed peacefully protesting climate activists get assaulted and pepper sprayed because they got in the way of you hobnobbing with mining interests over what was it a 10,000 $$ a pop dinner?
And I remember how quickly police banged the doors of lockdown protestors
If it has no place here then why don't you
do something about it which we all know you can
Well?
No.1458302
>>1458268Dandrews is [fill the blank].
No.1458680
>>1458543keating rules man, just absolutely shitting on the sorry excuse for 'press' in this country. why is it every 'journalist' in this country is a complete coward establishmentarian, and really annoying about it? the last guy was literally trembling the moment he bought up the wiggers libshit like an anxious kid during assembly. zero steel or confidence. they must be giving out press licences to any wimp so long as they don't report on any atual issues until they have an opportunity to be a bunch of sharks when those with principles get in hot water.
No.1458692
>>1458680I hadn't seen him speaking before and assumed he was just another pollie, but we went to town on the press who deserved it and had mostly solid takes the whole way through. mfw the Sky News reporter comes up and he just gives her shit for being a sky reporter at the end. on ya paul.
No.1459588
>>1458692https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JcNlese0ig&themeRefresh=1tt's a miracle that, after years of getting wrecked by keating on question time, australia decided howard would make a good prime minister.
in all seriousness (i'm being serious actually) though, despite the ALP not in fact being 'just as bad as the liberals' keating really wasn't that spectacular as pm. by virtue of not being a lib/country hack he was automatically better than 99% of them and could actually govern, but like all members of the labor right does little for me as a communist. as a character though he's pretty baller and i'd have him again just for the insults.
No.1461002
https://www.youtube.com/live/Dmy0XQ7_-KEThere's national security laws on the books against this that the burgers forced on us to keep China out and here's a burgereich just openly admitting they do it and want to publicise it
Why not just keep up the pretence for the pwecious r00l of l4w? Hunh
SIX FIGURE SALARY MAYBE EVEN SEVEN FIGURE SALARY BURGEREICH VOLK PEEPS
They actually think they earn their salary I bet you
So anyway which presinut 2024 burgereich
The literal Nazi Pedo or The rapist Nazi
Take your bets
Polls are looking good for the rapist Nazi right now but I think the literal Nazi Pedo will clinch it even if there have to be how to vote signs inside voting booths in Blak neighboorhoods
No.1461868
lol someone just got kicked out of the chamber. the house is just shitposting today and I was wondering how long until someone got booted.
No.1461874
>>1461002>every fascist i don't like is a nazi!read a book you baby. stop pretending you need to call them both nazis to make them any more revolting.
No.1461910
>>1461874My apologies the literal Nazi Pedo vs the rapist fascist
No.1462837
>>1461910Thank you, now I can tell which is which!
No.1463265
>>1463259Crakkkeroid colonizer nation
No.1463392
>>1463259angloid mentality
No.1464243
>>1463414I had no idea how bad it was. Zinoviev and no Marx??
No.1464252
>>1464243It's Trots, what do you expect?
Their article on the Collapse of the USSR is funnier though as in one section they are decrying the KPD and SPD not forming a united-front due to the COMINTERN's "ultra-left" third revolutionary period theory and then decrying the COMINTERN for forming united-fronts in other countries after the Nazi's came to power.
And there is pure nonsense like "Gorbachev's course toward reform was based on holding the Communist party together. ". Ol Gorby undermined the party with every move and was trying to turn himself from party general secretary into state president when Yeltsin stole a march.
No.1464387
>>1464252>It's Trots, what do you expect?Isn't that SAlt?
No.1464450
>>1464387They are both Trot groups.
No.1464912
>>1464471He's a neo-nazi ring leader and got pepper sprayed for trying to punch on with cops. He also got crumpled by a can of soup
No.1464948
>>1464243>clicks first link>"Video: Reading Marx's Capital with David Harvey — Vols 1 & 2"?
No.1464976
>>1464410[7 news report]
>[after being protected ofc] "The nazis were given an ultimatum: remove their face coverings and leave the city, or stay and face arrest. They left, and later reported to police that tires on their cars had been slashed.That's a promising sign that this is better than just throwing bottles and getting arrested. 6/10 - not bad, room for improvement. At least smash the windscreen or engrave a swastika on their cars to track them easily.
No.1465122
If we happen to have any Melbournites here, this account has a bunch of face photos and car license plates, alongside some fun footage, so be sure to share them around:
https://nitter.net/aaronantifash12/media>>1464410>>1464912Howzat!!
No.1465135
>>1465095oh and for those wondering about Yemini.
*bonk*
No.1465142
>>1464946SA was a merger of two Trot groups. They might be "non-sectarian" now but the Trotskyism is still in their theory papers on their site. SAlt is just the cultish Trots.
No.1465246
>>1465135Anyone got footage of Avi getting bonked?
No.1465291
>>1465246idk, He's posted a clip from his POV in a trailer vid but it's just a camera shaking when he gets bonked.
No.1465359
>>1465142>but the Trotskyism is still in their theory papers on their site.I've met more MLs in the Sallies than Trots. Maybe that's just my area…
No.1465365
>>1465359Non-culty Trots just seem like non-sectarian Marxists unless you get them talking about certain topics.Most of academic Marxism is permeated by Trotskyist background radiation.
No.1465376
>>1465359The sallies had a brief alliance with sections of the CPA (new one not old one) at one point so it's not surprising but the Trotskyite trend seems to be the main one
No.1466193
>>1465365>>1465376huh TIL
Oh well, not many culty ones in my local if they are there which is nice.
No.1470247
>>1427281Bad because it brings more labour into the workforce which increases competition, strenghtens the position of the bourgeoisie. Weakens the position of the proletariat. And it takes kids out of their otherwise free exeistence, basically socialized production in school/time off. Would be even worse if eventually the work is expected of them.
No.1470253
>>1470247<Now aged 14 and 13, both girls still work at the factory, which they credit with giving them real-world skills that would be otherwise hard to acquire.🤣. Selling your own children into slavery
No.1470257
>>1470253>work at the factory, which they credit with giving them real-world skills that would be otherwise hard to acquireI love my job creator! thank you for your generous gift boss!
No.1471914
I happily crit the sallies, but wsws is an infantile disorder, at least this author is.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/05/13/mzif-m13.htmlAustralia: At Port Kembla protest, unions and pseudo-left set a nationalist trap for anti-war sentiment>[…]>Underscoring this provincial orientation, South Coast Labour Council (SCLC) secretary Arthur Rorris declared “They want to conscript our region into their war machine but we will not have a bar of it.”>[…]>The SCLC, a peak body representing unions on the New South Wales (NSW) south coast, organised the rally in collaboration with Wollongong Against War and Nukes (WAWAN), which is closely associated with the pseudo-left Socialist Alliance. No.1471990
>>1471914There's a reason why the SEP is barred from pickets
No.1472254
>>1471990Are they actually?
Details please
No.1472305
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-21/tea-most-popular-beverage-after-water/102260704>Running low on silver to buy tea, the British agreed to trade opium for tea, triggering a Chinese public health crisis.Agreed to?
Cringe
Expect better accuracy from a state broadcaster
No.1472308
>>1472305This is such a gross misinterpretation of the Opium Wars that it isn't even funny.
>The British Agreed to trade opium for tea>Forced Opium to open up the Chinese Markets to the British>Fought two wars against the Chinese to keep Opium from being banned, as it caused a health crisis in the Qing Empire.I hate historic revisionism like this that makes me so pissed off as a historian.
No.1472490
>>1472254They take an ultra leftist position which rejects trade unions as economistic. Suffice to say, not many of the delegates nor members of any union are too keen to listen to a newspaper-wielding trot tell them to cease struggling against foul wages or engineered stone and to instead struggle for their own brand of socialism.
No.1473652
>>1473611god only 20 seconds in and its absolute bullshit
i wasnt even alive in the cold war and I know that MAD was far more intense than a few fucking submarines and jets
No.1473745
>>1473611>the chain of islands crucial to maintaining democracy in the regionChina is a one-party republic
Vietnam is a one-party republic
Laos is a one-party republic
Cambodia is a considered a dominant-party constitutional monarchy,
"Cambodia has been described as a de facto one-party state."Singapore is considered a dominant-pary republic.
Thailand is a constitutional monarchy, considered "semi-democratic", where you can be imprisoned for years or decades for criticizing the king.
—
Let's check out the Democracy Index
yes, it's appropriate to cite lib surveys in this context for the rest of the region. "Flawed democracy" is 7.99 or less.
Taiwan - 8.99 - [suddenly boosted from 7.73 in 2019]
Japan - 8.33 [suddenly boosted from 7.99 in 2019]
South Korea - 8.03
Malaysia - 7.30
Philippines - 6.73
Indonesia - 6.71
Thailand is a 6.67 btw
not looking like there's much "democracy in the region"
No.1473748
>>1473745Considering the past it is a step up.
No.1473750
>>1473748So? What's your point?
No.1473758
>>1473750I am just saying, saying the absolute democracy in the region is low to mock the broadcaster miss the nuanced changes the region underwent.
No.1475269
>>1472490Imagine shitting on unions while
at an action.
No.1475578
The Salt trots are back in Sydney for August.
https://www.socialismsydney.com/about/
>closing panel is "Why you should be a socialist today"Preaching to the choir, much? The conference is called Socialism.
There's also a Perth one this year.
No.1475599
How the fuck do Trots put out so many events tho?
No.1475600
>>1475599The bourgeoisie pay for them
No.1475608
>>1475600[cite needed]
have you
seen their ticket prices?
No.1475645
>>1449172Symbolic gesture, could do more harm than good, paternalistic police presence, romantic "de-colonialism" with no substance. No treaty, no vote. Stop siding with labor.
No.1475650
>>1475608Trotskyite conventions are held for profit
No.1475669
>>1475650Problem, Bordiga?
No.1476469
>>1475732Comrade Sparrow isn't looking too healthy there…
No.1476478
>>1475732I'm going to throw out a hypothesis on why the literal Nazis failed to recruit all the suposed far right conspiracy theorists from the much neglected outer suburbs
It's because those so called far right conspiracy theorists aren't exactly that They're more a bunch of normies and conspiracy theories are normal in this current world because conspiracy facts are common
Should have just thrown Pfeizer under the bus where it belonged and licenced the Chinese or Cuban vaccines now vaccine hesitancy is normal good job breaking it morons**
No.1476479
>>1476478 (me)
Anyway what standing does the grognard have for calling out the black sun symbol without apologising for studiously ignoring it being all over the Ukrainian army and paramilitaries
No.1476523
>>1476520>My biggest issue is that you manipulate people and are dishonest about your intentions and operating model.>You approach people at rallies who are new to politics and start what is made to seem like a genuine personal conversation. You don't tell them that this is a planned tactic to recruit them to your political party. If that's your intention, you should say that upfront when you approach people at rallies. It is unethical not to do so. Stop pretending that you personally care about somebody when you actually have an undisclosed ulterior motive, like some kind of Marxist fuckboy.>You create front groups and use other methods to obfuscate your involvement in campaigns. You hold public meetings and other forums that are made to appear as though ordinary attendees have real decision making power, even though the meetings are designed so that the outcomes are controlled by Socialist Alternative. Instead, you should make clear that suggestions that don't align with Socialist Alternative are not going to pass at these meetings, when this is the case. All campaigns that Socialist Alternative has a controlling amount of influence in (CARF, VicSocs, USCJ, various stupol tickets, et cetera) should disclose that in all promotional material, such as by putting a SAlt logo on posters and flyers and such.My second problem is your lack of solidarity, in that you never support any cause outside your Party except as a means to promote the Party.
>You have been told year after year that you are not welcome to promote your Party or sell newspapers and merchandise at Invasion day rallies. Every year you do it anyway, and you don't even give a cut back to Pay the Rent. This is Aboriginal land, but clearly you don't respect that one bit, since you're not willing to honour their space even one day a year. Instead, you should show up to Invasion Day events and leave your fucking newspapers and merchandise at home. Don't promote your Party at these events, just support the Aboriginal struggle as the Aboriginal organisers have asked.>When you organise counter protests against the far right, such as Posie Parker, NSN and others, you prioritise whatever will bolster your party the most, instead of what will most effectively disrupt that event. I understand your ideology opposes direct action and instead proposes that the resistance to the far right should be by building a single socialist Party and taking power through revolution. The problem is that many people who participate in CARF do actually want to take direct action against the far right and value that more than they value your Party. CARF rallies are organised in a way that divert people away from the direct action that many would rather participate in. Honestly, I think it's pretty disgusting that when the far right are going after trans people and people of colour, your mostly white and cis party sees it as a recruitment opportunity before anything else. That's fucked up. Instead, you should make it clear to participants that the objective of your rally is to build power for your party, not to take direct action against the far right threat, so that they at least have the opportunity to try and join or organise another response that is more aligned with their goals. Better yet, you could just deprioritise your fucking Party for just a moment and support other groups' efforts to disrupt far right organising.>Bonus third complaint - You actively disrupt organising by other groups. Back in the heyday of Extinction Rebellion, your party decided that it would infiltrate XR, take it over and shut it down. Fortunately, you only managed to do this to a few groups on universities. As much as Extinction Rebellion has its many problems, people should be able to do left wing organising independent of your Party without having to constantly worry about whether SAlt is going to fuck with it. Instead, if you have suggestions for how another group should organise, you should contact them, making sure to let them know that you're from Socialist Alternative, share your experience, and let them decide whether or not they want to take it on board.Running stalls is good. Approaching people to recruit them is fine, depending on how you do it. >Recruiting students is good.
>It's not so much jealousy that you're the biggest group but frustrating that the most prominent org on the left is so awfully behaved. When people's only experience of "socialism" is being lied to and harassed by SAlt, they associate the entire left with that bad experience. That's exacerbated by the way that SAlt encourage people to believe that socialism and Socialist Alternative are synonymous.>Your ideology also does suck, but that's forgivable except maybe that it's the motivator for all the dodgy shit listed above. I'm totally for left unity and I wouldn't hate a group just because they're the wrong kind of socialist.Anon went for the throat
No.1476760
>>1476469You may not like it, but this is what peak punk looks like.
No.1476802
>>1476520I didn't even know there were that many people in the subreddit.
I've seen the SAlt question asked before but they've outdone themselves this time. Bravo.
No.1477513
>>1476523holy
fuck I had no idea they ran so many front groups.
Damn, I've even donated and helped out with some. I'll have to reconsider…
No.1477628
>>1476861this is something apparently a lot of parties across the world do. wish I could go but am abroad rn
No.1478394
I notice that MWM is in the OP but not Independent Australia? Why is that? In my experience they're pretty similar sources and I think IA would be a far better fit than Crikey.
No.1478512
>>1477628I wish I could too, but I'm too old (26)
No.1478681
A Socialist Alternative recruiter worked out today.
Did you?
No.1478683
>>1478512I mean, you're officially not too old for the event.
>Eligibility: Full or probational members of the CPA aged 18-29. No.1478697
>>1476523>Back in the heyday of Extinction Rebellion, your party decided that it would infiltrate XR, take it over and shut it downI mean…
No.1478711
>>1478697bringe or cased
Not sure which
No.1478738
>>1478697XR did nothing wrong
No.1478740
>>1478394What's wrong with Crikey?
No.1479658
>>1478681lmao no they didn't
No.1479662
>>1478740Not that anon but Independent Australia is based
https://independentaustralia.net/Vol plox add to OP?
No.1479716
>>1479658Yeah they did.
At the library. No.1480021
>>1479997Yeah
Why do you think the drug tests the coppers use don't detect it
No.1480022
>>1480021 (me)
It's a simple manufacturers setting to turn detection on I think
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