No.1455460
>>1455451Why are they dressed like a bunch of IRA guys who stole shirts off the PFLP? I'm not a super huge fan of the LGBT community, but what do they hope to achieve by this?
No.1455461
Holy shit that american remix of "Wir sind des Geyers schwarzer Haufen" is terrible.
I'll never forgive the nazis for attempting to coopt this song
No.1455464
>>1455460>I'm not a super huge fan of the LGBT communityfaggot
>>1455461get a load of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7jRzGfZFUg No.1455465
>>1455460>i'm not a super huge fan of the LGBT communityShut up, no one asked you
No.1455467
>>1455464Thank you its even worse
No.1455508
>>1455505I'm not making this up either, he goes by Hammer.
This is a thing, I guess they're probably still around but there was a neo-Nazi skinhead group in the 1980s in the U.S. that called themselves the Hammerskins.
No.1455671
I'm not at a computer right now, but
>almost the entirity of PatriotFail leaks >>>/edu/12845>and them getting beaten up in Philly, need video pls>and don't forget https://git.leftypol.org/comrade/divegrass_aesthetics/src/branch/music/WANaziWatch%20infiltrating%20Patriot%20Front.mp3>"I came here to help, not get my ass beaten!" - Pride Boy in NYC getting bashed at an LBGTQ event, and the other one who got chased down the road and ate driveway with their ass hanging out No.1455676
Almost the entire Esoteric Nazism thread.
Read it if you haven't already.
No.1455867
>>1455862Besides being deeply funny, ultra-reactionaries calling people ugly is a real "if you pick up the sword you die by the sword" type situation. Look folks, I don't believe in karmic justice but something about it is intriguing.
It's not that evil is punished but incompetence is. It just so happens that often they amount to the same thing.
No.1455886
>>1455860That second picture is unbearably French. I'm not going to hear any more Burger jokes from here on.
No.1455937
>>1455894He's nafri or jewish not mixed
No.1455946
>>1455858I've always had a feeling that European rightists really are just fat, obnoxious urbanite hipsters (but racist). We should call them the Soy Right from now on
No.1455955
>>1455946Actually they're way less fat than americans but lots of them are meek and short.
No.1456206
>>1456199Why do they look like they've been doing cocaine
No.1456222
>>1456199>We wuz Lombards and shitWhy the fuck do Northern italians jerk off so much about their le Lombard heritage, most of the world only remembered your ancestor by how badly they got fucked over by Charlemagne lol
>>1456211It is Judaism, not Christianity
No.1456236
>>1456222They actually don't do that, they jerk off about being (modern) Lombard, nothing to do with ancient Lombards.
They're still the most annoying cunts in Italy though.
No.1456696
>>1456277>vid 2 - that picturesque flankA Freikorp battalion just barrel rolled their grave
No.1456822
>>1456814
>TOTAL UYGHUR DE-ACK!
No.1456834
>>1455937Nafris are literally just Old World mulattos
No.1457310
>faggot mod deletes rightoid cringe we were laughing atfuck off cops
>>1455671Attached!
No.1457311
>>1457310The mod team have been infiltrated by Hitlerite-trotskyists we must coup them.
No.1457512
>>1455858Did they try to cover her white laced doc marten boots in the last image?
No.1457524
US Fascist group Patriot Front seems to be made up of fucking dorks who have no idea what they are doing in self defense, see these two videos
Patriot Front Boxing Breakdown
https://kolektiva.media/w/vZZ9NEwK7MTwbE1x8L3jkDPatriot Front Shield Training Breakdown
https://kolektiva.media/w/fE5P6mXJiFRF7Fx3yrbSCi No.1457530
>>1457525Classic wehraboo cringe
No.1457532
>>1457530It's all the cringe you need. Hell, It even has reddit.
No.1457544
>>1457532r/ShitWehraboosSay is rich in this stuff
No.1457765
>>1455451These weird creeps will never grow their movement . There aren't enough weird creeps in the world. Neo-fascism had a better shot with Richard Spencer's "clean and polite" face-tattoo free optics. Even then they had no chance because the whole ideology is not sustainable.
This skinhead is trying so hard to be intimidating and authoritative with that exaggerated gait too .
No.1457845
>>1456222Every right wing race realist has to eventually make some cope about their heritage, because the reality is everyone has mixed ancestry at some points. Specific to Italians, they’re just coping that most of the 20th century world considered Italy not to be white, so they have to point to 1.7 thousand years ago to their hundreds of thousands of ancestors, and cherry pick one that happened to be German and say “see! I am le pure!”.
Surprise: racial psuedoscience followers are clinically insane
No.1458017
>>1457524They're a good watch, and I'm glad we can see them, although the end of one of them hints that the uploader wasn't meant to upload them publicly to kolektiva and youtube.
>seems to beNot merely that, is
shown to be, both in training and in conflict.
>>1457765Neo-fash is obviously farcical and typically very shallow in understanding of what made fascism 'work', but neo-Nazism is a step further.
CPUSAnon gave an argument that Nazi's became the dominant movement and therefore the face of fascism merely because they had a better organized military, and I'd say there's truth to it, and combine that with America's (and to varying degrees Europe too) shallow understanding of what Nazism even was, even the Nazis are just chasing aesthetics and the dumbest parts of the ideology. There will be no second SA, the closest you'll get is Proud Boys providing event security.
Now we just have this obvious contradiction of outcasts and tatted-up spectacles yelling about degeneracy. In a sense, it's a thick ol' silver lining for us. I guess the downside is it can make society not look out for the fash in suits.
No.1458020
/r/ think about the memes polyp memer in confederacy rally
No.1458115
>>1458017> CPUSAnon gave an argument that Nazi's became the dominant movement and therefore the face of fascism merely because they had a better organized military, and I'd say there's truth to it, and combine that with America's (and to varying degrees Europe too) shallow understanding of what Nazism even was, even the Nazis are just chasing aesthetics and the dumbest parts of the ideology. Many nazis were essentially war addicts. They loved war. They sought war. They enjoyed killing. It was a psychopathocracy , rule of psychopaths .
It's no surprise to me that Christopher Pohlhaus, the skinhead with runes graffitied all over his face, was a Marine. The ex-military/fascism connection is longstanding and constant. It's probably the most stable correlation of all the attributes that are associated with the ideology.
It's true that a lot of these fascists would be among the first the nazis would send to camps. They would probably deem this skinhead neurologically deviant somehow and send him to the penal battalions. He would like that. People like him exist to be commanded.
I do say I find such individuals fascinating, and wish I could interview them like a psychologist to see how they got to where they are in life.
One thing is that the nazis would find a use for these degenerates. Pic rel is Oskar Dirlewanger, the notorious pedophile and war criminal who committed some of the most sadistic extermination campaigns of the war. Even his superiors in the SS thought this ghoul was scum, but they still needed such psychopaths who would make sport out of killing the "subhumans" who were yet somehow indistinguishable from them. Such degenerate lowlifes do find a place in more highly organized developments of fascism, but it is as the the pawns of their superiors who even think they were scum. There were no tears for Oskar Dirlewanger when he was beaten to death by Polish former prisoners of war. And there will be no tears shed for Christopher Pohlhaus when he meets hist fated violent end whether it be in prison or some fly strewn ditch.
No.1458192
>>1456277 (also philly)
The whole thread could be sustained from these idiots alone. This uygha on her phone, and the two closest can be easily de-identifited if they somehow haven't already been.
They can't get being tough right and they can't even get being scared right.
There was also that time (I forget where) they were compromised and the friendly local antifa chased off their guard and destroyed their getaway trucks.
No.1458582
>>1457277God I'd give my left nut to get on my knees and smell their feet after a long shift guarding the berlin wall
No.1458599
>>1458582This is a right wing cringe thread, you're an idiot but you're not right wing so just post in /isg/ or something.
No.1458610
>>1458192>They can't get being tough right and they can't even get being scared right.I saw a post on /pol/ from someone who said marching around like that is about "demonstrating power" because that's what the Nazis did, but it's funny, they think people will be less likely to mess with them and not MORE likely to try to beat the snot out of them like those guys in Philly did. Or because they were bullied and "cringe-shamed" into the ideology on the internet, that can just do that to strangers in real life. In Weimar Germany, the Nazis' street goons were a bunch of ex-soldiers who actively sought out violence in which people would get stabbed to death in street fights regularly, but Patriot Front wants to avoid that, because most of those guys are not willing to die for their beliefs. And even leaving the white nationalist part aside, those black guys knew that -immediately-, their little radars are just attuned to people who are trying to act tough and are asking to get their cards pulled on the street, at night, with no cop protection.
It's a really bad idea. If you're not actually willing to die or go to prison, you're gonna eventually run into people who are bigger than you are, and if not necessarily meaner then just capable and willing to beat you up – which a lot of people in the average American city, let alone Philadelphia on the 4th of July, can do. Then they wanted to bully a Pride event in an out-of-the-way town, but the cops busted them immediately. They can try to play that game with anarchists, who won't call the cops because it's an ideological thing, but the cops are not going to allow a group of jumped-up punks to mess with a Pride event which is bringing money into to the town.
>>1458017>combine that with America's (and to varying degrees Europe too) shallow understanding of what Nazism even was, even the Nazis are just chasing aesthetics and the dumbest parts of the ideology. There will be no second SA, the closest you'll get is Proud Boys providing event security.Yeah. The Proud Boys were more akin to a party paramilitary group for Trump and the Republican Party with relishing the fighting part. That's a closer to what the SA actually was. Basically, the troglodyte party brownshirts who are also working hand-in-glove with the cops and steered around by cops. Real complicated stuff haha!
A lot of people have different ideas too about what the key defining traits of fascism tend to be. There romanticism, a patriarchal myth fit for the industrial society, the loss of some source of imperial revenues or prestige (either real or imagined), a downwardly mobile petty-bourgeois acting alongside nationalist ideology in ultimate support of finance capital, the aestheticization of politics, the turning of colonialism's methods inward, etc. All those things may be true, but there's also no real value on honest self-representation. It's the reason that most fash are cryptofash, like Proud Boys have little fascist symbols worn on their clothing, but they're ready to deny the charge up and down while marching to commit genocide alongside the skull mask types. Patriot Front openly says they're fascists, and sure, but to me that tells me they're even worse at doing it than the Proud Boys are. And that's shameful.
It's also why they love dishonest representation of their opponents. Think about all the fake antifa manuals and "Leon Trotsky invented the word racism to make debate impossible."
No.1458689
>>1458610>I saw a post on /pol/ from someone who said marching around like that is about "demonstrating power" because that's what the Nazis did, but it's funny, they think people will be less likely to mess with them and not MORE likely to try to beat the snot out of them like those guys in Philly didI'd say they're right, in the sense that if they get 50 members with shields and pretend they're locals, not many people will attack them so heavily outnumbered. And if they are present and unopposed, it can be see as inspirational to others, to see that it's safe to be a fash in public, and to see a fash org there in the community loud and proud.
And yeah, like you said, they aren't comparable to the SA who were often ex-military and engaged in actions beyond vandalism, marches and speeches. A recent IGD podcast theorized the Proud Boys will dissolve when someone inevitably dies (like Unite The Right did), but Patriot Front won't even last that long.
As for PB being cryptofash, it obviously gives them opportunity, both to allow more recruits like lolberts to feel comfortable, and to give plausible deniability. The Republicans probably don't want literal open fascists to provide their security. That's horrible optics, and yes, for a political party promoting freedumbs those optics
do matter. But in the wake of them balkanizing after the leadership dissolving (Jan 6 and revelations of Enrique being an informant) has led to some of their rogue factions denouncing the national org and becoming openly violent and fascist.
No.1458699
>>1458689This btw is why they do Sticker stuff so much. Instead of organising random events nobody goes to (like trots) for fascists the stickers are enough to "prove we exist and you can join us" in a world where public events mean you face direct opposition.
Also yeah one thing the SA did, and tbh most fascist street gangs before and since, was specific targeted hate crimes as an act of "praxis". Attacking someone on the bus to create terror, smashing up a jewish business, storming a public event to demonstrate their presence. Each act built a mythos around the org, and along with that the physical backlash to anything like that generated group solidarity. And yeah being soliders meant they were quite good at beating the shit out of people.
No.1464830
>>1464821
>Critical support for US MIC because it triggers magaboomers
Correct
>Top tier praxis comrade
Correct
>Radlibs get the bullet FIRST
Conlibs get the bullet first and you will help us.
No.1465222
>>1458192>There was also that time (I forget where) they were compromised and the friendly local antifa chased off their guard and destroyed their getaway trucks.Found it: December 4th, 2021, Washington D.C.
https://itsgoingdown.org/antifascist-action-against-pf-dc-communique/Fun read.
>“Jason NY,” who had been left on guard duty [at the vehicle exchange], was working on his laptop in his truck when he noticed teams of antifascists moving around the parking lot just outside his windows. He immediately hit the gas pedal, peeled out of the parking lot, and sped away down the dark road on tires that would soon fail him.>After arriving [at the D.C. dropoff], spotting the three U-Hauls, and taking stock of the situation, three antifascists sneaked up to the trucks and began disabling them. The three drivers made feeble attempts to stop the sabotage. Frederick OR and another driver stepped towards the team of antifascists, but when dared to come closer, they backed off; meanwhile the third driver anxiously exclaimed,“We are recording you!” Unfortunately for him, it’s difficult to record clear video footage while you’re being chased around a U-Haul truck in the pitch dark. Unsurprisingly, there is no mention of any such footage in Patriot Front’s internal chats following the event.>Two of the trucks were immobilized, while the third suffered enough damage to make it both unsafe for human transport and unfit for legal highway travel.>Upon arriving back at the campsite, Thomas Rousseau cancelled the Patriot Front award ceremony that was scheduled for that evening, and promptly left again to spend the night in a hotel. As far as we know, he still has not given out most of the awards he was meant to pass out that day. The Patriot Front member promotions that were supposed to happen at that ceremony had to be delayed until the next Patriot Front national Mumble call. Unfortunately for the promoted fascists, that Mumble call ended up also being infiltrated by antifascists! The full audio from that call was recorded, and leaked online, including clips of Thomas specifically instructing listening members on how, when, and for how long, they were expected clap for him throughout his speech(es).
>Many members who flew in for the march from far-away states had trouble making their return flights in time, and some missed them entirely. Among those who drove, there were days-long delays in getting home due to a lack of drive-able vehicles, overlooked punctured tires blowing out after two hours on the road, and overall lack of organization. Some were only able to find rides to the far side of their home states, where they were then stranded, with no way to get themselves all the way home. Patriot Front even abandoned one unpopular member in Virginia with a disabled car and no way to get back to South Dakota.
>Our targeted sabotage definitely had a material impact on Patriot Front’s ability to organize. Their chats indicate that – after factoring in individual insurance policies – the damage to their various vehicles cost members around $8,000 of their own money. The additional, untallied costs members incurred, like hotel stays, new plane tickets, missed work days, and so on, undoubtedly pushes that damages figure even higher.>In their damage assessments, Patriot Front also reported that the refurbished bus that Network Director Carter MO had worked on for months, and poured thousands of dollars into repairing, was “total fucked”[sic] that evening at the vehicle exchange site. They abandoned it to the tow company/scrapyard.https://archive.org/details/returning-to-vehicle-exchange No.1469054
>>1468737>400k/yr Boojoids deserve worse. Probably already had another job lined up making just as much
No.1469251
>>1468737Is he saying women aren't white, or women aren't people?
Oh, right. Dumb question…
No.1469254
>>1468737In redneck confederat, you cancel drag. In corporate amerika, drag cancels you!
No.1469255
>>1469054>gets new job>show their boss their white supremacy tiradedouble tap 'em
No.1469297
>>1468737I always wonder if the reason average looking cishet men almost always hate feminine men to such an irrational degree is because the latter serve as living reminders that said cishet men have too much testosterone to be pretty, yet not enough to be handsome, and so they live in a constant purgatory of average-to-below average appearance with not enough conviction, nor means to improve in either direction. The feminine man, enviously comfortable in their expression and ability thereby defies the defeatist perspective, and angers the cishet man fundamentally, as it shows the problem is with themselves and their self imposed identity rules.
The psychology of reactionary phenomenon is very interesting, as always.
No.1469778
>>1457769Hitler would put all those fucks in a camp lol
No.1471907
Protesting drag shows sounds like GOP bait, not something fit for nazi supermen
No.1471915
>>1469778Today there are only self-appointed honorary aryans
No.1476888
>>1476761Lmao that shit still doesn't justify being racist, jesus these retards don't have a brain
No.1476920
>>1476761>>1476888I never know what Americans mean by race/racism, if they mean the catholic cultural whiteness "west", fluid linguistic abstractions which are just being used to rationalize a caste system, or if they mean a primordial form of social organization such as multigenerational clans, diasporial organizing and blood feuds.
When I went to USA I got the impression that the only thing keeping neighbors from slaughtering one-another was the illusion of a functional and non-overextended police state - and because the social organization which pathologizes some sort of prescribed value system is collapsed all that is holding the society together is the social bribe and social engineering.
No.1476924
>>1458689>And yeah, like you said, they aren't comparable to the SA who were often ex-military and engaged in actions beyond vandalism, marches and speeches.The intensity of Weimar street brawls must have been on a whole different level when you consider that basically every adult male in Germany at the time was a WW1 vet. In the modern US you have pudgy keyboard warriors slap fighting with one another. Back then you had a standoff between two dudes that each personally hacked/stabbed/strangled several men to death at Verdun.
No.1476928
>>1476873How was this guy not charged or put into an asylum
No.1476934
>>1476924I imagine Ukraine / Russia will have it if they aren't turned into parking lots, they already had a lot of hooligan brawls and that was before symmetrical war started feeding millions of men through a warzone.
>>1476928A morgue would probably be more appropriate
No.1476947
>>1476920>if they mean the catholic cultural whiteness "west", fluid linguistic abstractions which are just being used to rationalize a caste system, or if they mean a primordial form of social organization such as multigenerational clans, diasporial organizing and blood feuds.More the former. Race in the U.S. is kinda like a caste system.
The old world "clannishness" stuff isn't really a thing outside of first-generation diaspora communities. There was an energetic display of it in Minneapolis this month when the supporters of a (right-wing, cop-aligned) city council candidate in a DFL primary election got his supporters in the Darod clan (I believe) to wreck a caucus (because he was losing to an incumbent socialist, who is also a Muslim woman with Pakistani immigrant parents, incidentally). While this might be how political disputes get handled in Somalia, this kinda thing does not "translate" and "lands" in the U.S. like, well, a really heavy thing in absence of a cliche'd analogy.
https://www.fightbacknews.org/2023/5/22/cop-running-against-socialist-minneapolis-city-council-member-aisha-chughtai-instigates-at>>1476873Jeeeesus. After that mass shooting recently it does seem like Dallas produces a particularly atomized / individualistic LARP that's exceptional by even Burger standards. It's deadly when the guy has an AR-15 but tragicomic when the guy is downtown and waving a Gladius around.
No.1476963
>>1476947I wonder if it would be possible to organize the atomized Americans in anyway whatsoever. Or if it would be more realistic to weaponize the social atomization against the forces whom use it as a system of social control. Social organization is important in forming a society and building a revolution, but the delicate system of support required for a modern industrial civilization could be made to collapse with a few thousands motivated individuals.
No.1491703
>>1491670Fucking krauts really thought they were the ancestors of the achemenichads lol
No.1535329
Wish I still had that video of patriot front at their training camp. They were all laughably bad.
No.1535332
>>1535329Open Source Security, friend. All the original footage is hosted by Unicorn Riot and open to view!
But, if these are the ones you're looking for…
Boxing training: https://kolektiva.media/w/vZZ9NEwK7MTwbE1x8L3jkDShield training: https://kolektiva.media/w/fE5P6mXJiFRF7Fx3yrbSCiA notes at the end suggests they weren't meant for public viewing, but I've seen at least one reposted on YouTube so whatever, nice infosec dorks.
No.1535334
>>1471903>capital is just a term for moneyWhat a dumb fuck
No.1535339
>>1535332Nice!
Thank you.
There was one where they were doing pullups that was also pretty funny.
No.1535343
>>1535339No prob, you're welcome. I haven't seen the pullups one yet, if you manage to see it then chuck it in here.
No.1535344
>>1456199<YT fake emotionless ghost peoplefigures.
No.1535589
I bet you blood tribe won't make it to 2024. Neo-Nazi movements love to splinter and collapse
No.1535591
>>1535589(Me)
specifically to America, I dunno about the rest of the world, Germany might be majority party rule by the AfD by 2025 and that party is ready to embrace the Nazi militias the second people turn a blind eye to German Neo-Naziism
No.1535597
>>1535589Probably not. Apparently the leader
>>1455508 declared some intention to go fight in Ukraine (on the side of Ukraine) but it's unclear if they have and this caused some row, but I dunno.
No.1535612
>>1535589Tell me about it.
Interestingly, they also seem to love sprouting up as leftist Americans drift away from the Democratic party!
No.1535743
>>1535589Proof that neo-nazis are trotskyites
No.1536302
>>1476873Did he die? ~1:02
No.1536319
>>1535589But I've been told that the AfD are based multipolaristas :(((
No.1537385
>>1537381retarded ecofascism I guess?
No.1562057
>>1537381There is a Nazi fetish for Greta because she's white and looks like she's 12
No.1564481
>>1491692Okay NGL I love that TPUSA clip
It's just so fucking ridiculous I can't stop watching. Like a villain on a kids cartoon
No.1564491
>>1457765In my direct experience, the freakish neo-nazi isnt trying to necessarily be properly political, but is using politics as a type of dark alchemy to unleash his inner demonic spirit. It is black magic. Thats why today stuff like o9a and satanism is so popular, since it is a church of evil, not a political para-military or whatever.
These people would be just as happy being cops for globohomo as long as they get to rape, murder and torture. Its about being taboo, not being ethical or theoretical.
No.1564494
>>1564491I heard a lot of them join the police and military etc… as an insider role as an initiation.
No.1564512
>>1491692Okay NGL I love that TPUSA clip
It's just so fucking ridiculous I can't stop watching. Like a villain on a kids cartoon
No.1564514
>>1564491>Thats why today stuff like o9a and satanism is so popularcitation needed
No.1564548
>>1564514You have to engage with right wing spaces to see the entrenchment of this stuff, at least subliminally. In the end atomwaffen (muh seige) became a hub of this outwardly satanic and "dialectical" activity to bring about chaos in society. On the right there are christcucks, pagans and satanists. The pagans and satanists faction together to bring about all the "esoteric" aesthetics while the christians moralise about degeneracy that the anti-christ portion languish in.
The occult evola fanboys fancy themselves the aristocrats of the soul who are bringing about a new fascism from the ashes of liberalism.
>>1564494Thats part of the framework of the 7fw but most just larp or "join" larpy organisations as part of their "initiation". The police though is basically the perfect smokescreen for this stuff, since it is the same mask of "the invisible empire" that the KKK was, with the same function. The KKK themselves founded by freemason albert pike whose secret society was "the golden circle", the same name of a slave trade operation.
No.1564741
>>1564548I am disgusted by this poster. How dare these satanists subhumans associate the symbol of the Workers' Party of Korea with their ugly swastika. These nazi scum deserve to be shot.
No.1564755
>>1476873That night he learned a valuable lesson in the supremacy of collectivism versus individualism.
No.1568328
>>1456204Isn't that Dasha on the far right?
No.1582401
>>1455858why are fascist meetups more diverse than blm rallies?
No.1582677
>>1471907It's laughably impotent, doubly so when they get shut out by a few community members with umbrellas.
No.1582689
>>1582674Order of Nine Angles. It's a fucking rabbithole. In a nutshell, fringe esoteric satanic nazism. Edginess as a cult, and additionally their groups encourage them to try and infiltrate other orgs. And when I say edginess, I mean that they're a big part of why child porn is so common in atomwaffen, the base and other rightoid orgs. Also been linked to a bunch of attempted terrorism, murders and ideologically-driven rape.
One of their (former? idk) members kept making threads here, literally sounded like a teenage girl crying about high school drama.
No.1582691
>>1458610Yep. Nazi brown shirts were actual WW1 veterans and the like, real soldiers that saw combat or are combat trained in the least, not some militia made up of wannabes. I mean the fuckin Freikorp which was the predecessor to the Nazis actually put down an urban revolution. I can't believe I'm actually "standing up" for real historical Nazis than these poser dorks.
No.1582696
>>1476873It seems that it's always these guys who try to fuck around and then absolutely find out. Socialists and communists never get this treatment except from the police or military, something to think about for lolberts and fascists who can perhaps be saved.
No.1582714
>>1455460>I'm not a super huge fan of the LGBT communityThen piss off
No.1582730
>>1582723>Sexuality does not create community, nobody normal thinks so except tossers in government and twats in business.First and foremost, that's factually incorrect- considering that being "trans" in it of itself isn't a sexuality. Secondly, if it didn't create community- why are there gay bars, or pride festivals or hell, even neighbourhoods such as Newtown within Australia which are known to have a large collection of LGBTQ residents.
>If this is the kind of shit you believe you should go and find an imageboard about representation, pride, hate-speech laws and stonewall because that is the only worthless praxis in useless 'LGBTQ community' politics.Secondly, Stonewall was far from "useless" praxis. This riot alone had a hand in winning legal rights for gay people as well as ensuring that being gay wasn't considered a "mental disease" during the 1970s due to the massive surge in LGBTQ activism.
Thirdly, anti-gay laws effect the working class. Trans people for instance are some of the largest demographics dealing with homelessness and the fact that we have transphobic laws being passed means that we can't seek employment in certain areas thus depriving us of economic autonomy and leaving us victim to some of the worst side effects of capitalism.
This is not "idpol" this is reality.
So how about you quit being a bitch and actually realise that statements such as "im not a fan of the lgbt" community are warped statements.
>but muh boardIt's my board too. Fit in or fuck off.
No.1582731
>>1582724Lol. You are not a queer person obviously. Stop acting like a fucking american and trying to 'be an ally'.
Any radical queer people will tell you that that the last 30 years of queer politics has consisted of the 'LGBTQ community' liberalism has got us absolutely nowhere, their big push in the way of even straight white gay men, the people who head this 'community', consisted of …the church having to allow their marriages?! This is the wins? really?
The only people it has got anywhere are the queer bourgeoisie (non-working class white gay men primarily) and the charities that do nothing but justify their own existence as a business, and especially in Stonewalls (and their ilk) case just lie and make up spectacular lib theories like 'the gay gene', 'the trans gene', 'girl brain' because to people with no real politics being seen as 'natural' is the height of acceptance.
As a queer i want no part in it, you allies are welcome to the whole thing, there. a 'cool gay friend' for every one of you.
No.1582732
>>1582731Attacking the mainstream LGBT movement is somewhat justified but also a complete non sequitur, that anon didn't mention 'the corporate rainbow industry' or whatever at all, they just said they didn't like the LGBT community, that makes them a homophobe in case you didn't realise. Yes I am queer since you ask, not that that should even matter anwyays.
We can criticise liberals for not going far enough and so on but don't ever delude yourself for one second that right wingers make better bedfellows, all of this psychobabble about how they don't actually hate gay people just rainbow flag waving colored hair having faggots, is completely transparent. If you actually fall for that, I'm sorry, you will walk yourself into a death camp.
No.1582734
>>1582714>responding to a three month old comment just to start idpol crapFuck off.
No.1582736
>>1582731>Any radical queer people will tell you that that the last 30 years of queer politics has consisted of the 'LGBTQ community' liberalism has got us absolutely nowhere,That's bullshit and you know it. Had it not been for the radical queer community, we wouldn't have gotten legal recognition to not be discriminated against- we wouldn't have been deemed as not mentally ill, and we wouldn't have been able to actual gain human rights. we may as way call anarchists useless- inspite of the fact that it was because of them that we have the eight hour work day- hell we wouldn't even have may day.
>their big push in the way of even straight white gay men, the people who head this 'community', consisted of …the church having to allow their marriages?! This is the wins? really? So again, why does this mean "im not a fan of the LGBTQ community".
>specially in Stonewalls (and their ilk) case just lie and make up spectacular lib theories like 'the gay gene', 'the trans gene', 'girl brain' because to people with no real politics being seen as 'natural' is the height of acceptance. As a queer i want no part in it, you allies are welcome to the whole thing, there. a 'cool gay friend' for every one of you.Ignoramus that you are, you forget that it was stonewall that lead to radical queer liberation theory and groups forming- specifically The Gay Liberation Front.
Let's not also forget that the trans-woman who started the stonewall riots as well as forming the Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries group.
The stonewall riots have their roots in radicalism, and call them libs is a disservice and only speaks volumes of your ignorance.
>>1582734>muh idpol not an argument. This isn't 2017 anymore, get with the times. You either stand with marginalised groups or you don't.
No.1582743
Anti-idpol is fine but if people use that to mean 'gay rights dont matter', that is wrong. We just should not be caught up in endless identitarian arguments over who is more oppressed and so on.
No.1582788
>You either stand with marginalised groups or you don't.
DAILY REMINDER THAT SUPPORTING SOCIALLY PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENTS IS NOT IDPOL
Dismissing issues ≠ Anti-IdPol
No.1582791
>>1582723If Marxism is t>>1582723
>>1582723Of course marginalised groups will form their own communities. Tell me your a middle class white male cis American without telling me.
No.1582901
An account from a Bunkerchan anon who was former Atomwaffen Division:
>[The head of the org, 'Rape'] was also sceptical of The Base and admitted to me that the AWD at most shoots guns in the forest on camera and gets arrested, and he told me that he believed that revolution and direct action doesn't work and that he thinks The Base was full of shit.
No.1582951
>>1582723> Sexuality does not create communityIn a just world, you'd be correct: simply having the same sexual (or gender, as
>>1582730 points out) preference would not be a defining part of one's identity*. However, it has become a defining part of people's identities due to persecution. Being gender non-conforming or a guy kissing his boyfriend in public
shouldn't be a big deal, but realistically LGBTQ people are more likely to be victims of physical and sexual violence, are currently being legislated against, etc. When you are being persecuted for a pretty fundamental part of your identity, how can you
not seek out other people like yourself? I'd argue, therefore, that if you really hate idpol, you should focus your energies on being a good leftist. When we have won (and I know people here don't like talking about this because we're all irony-poisoned doomers, but I'm doing ti anyway), lib idpol will have no reason to exist any longer. If it does, it will only be as a force of pure reaction.
*It's also worth pointing out that in that same world, one's individual identity would not define them at all; again, we have to deal with the hand we're dealt. LGBTQ people are hardly the only people that do this.
No.1582967
>>1582723>Sexuality does not create community, Based reality-denier. Schizogang.
No.1583939
>>1582901white nat dont know anything by shoot hot gun and get arrest
No.1583947
>>1564491>These people would be just as happy being cops for globohomo as long as they get to rape, murder and torture. Tbh i've seen more and more of this behaviour in online spaces praising CIA death squads in Iraq for example, even though there was a time where rightists would've denounced this as ZOG behaviour and tried to distance White America from Neocon policies. It just becomes increasingly obvious that to some of these people things like race war or fascism is only useful in so far as it allows them to engage in violent excess to exceed their true self in a Deleuzean sense, kinda like ISIS members.
No.1583978
>>1583885>american kroganok so he's sterile then?
No.1584360
>>1583947Yeah that's basically the whole BAPsphere. Half of them are weak neets that wouldnt do anything doe.
>>1583978Depend if he's post-ME3 Krogan
No.1584718
>>1584360>Depend if he's post-ME3 Krogandidn't play ME3 due to the ending drama, I wonder how they fixed the overpopulation issue then
No.1585461
>>1582724I wouldn't care. Plenty of POC communists aren't fans of white people. Communism doesn't have to be a giant rainbow orgy
No.1585464
>>1585461And plenty of white communists aren't fans of POC, (oh wait, that'd be retarded)
Fuck off radlib
No.1585527
>>1585516>>1585520Communists feed the homeless all the time. You’d be hard pressed to find an org that doesn’t provide aid to them.
The difference though is that groups like the CPUSA and PSL have actual plans to completely eradicate homelessness—namely making housing a right and seizing rental properties to end landlordism.
The problem with Fash isn’t that they “feed the homeless” because even AnCaps do that on occasion. It’s that their politics don’t follow the act—it’s all resentment and seeking enemies to torture and forming needless divisions between people in the same struggle. It’s petty paternalism that extends to, at best, a couple white people. It doesn’t seem to empower the homeless to take control of their own destiny, but instead pretend you’ll nanny them like children.
No.1585730
>>1585520>far-right feeding the 'white' homeless and decrying how it is so bad that nationals are homeless is something they always do anonIt's something they have done, occasionally even organized like in your Greek pics, but in my experience in present-time Western countries, I haven't seen it organized once, except kind of half-assed water-bottle-handing in East Palestine, Ohio (an obvious publicity move).
Churches and socialists/co-ops own the aid turf over here, and most of those churches are big tent.
As an aside, I think the (understandable, don't get me wrong) characterization of neo-fash and even most liberals as simply 'evil' leaves us open to other groups seizing the role of aid givers. Mutual aid is an important tool, and if that gets replaced by state charity, a well-funded rightoid org or even big-tent churches, that's a lost opportunity for building real community and legitimate support.
>>1585527>The difference though is that groups like the CPUSA and PSL have actual plans to completely eradicate homelessness—namely making housing a right and seizing rental properties to end landlordism.Well, I don't know how even the third biggest political party in the country would have a chance at making housing a right anywhere, unless a local council has enough power to seize and redistribute property or ban landlordism. So unless there are notable groups from these orgs (and I don't just mean 'some of our members incidentally do that outside of our org') on the street doing anti-eviction aktion or aiding squats, it's a feel-good spook and not an effective plan.
No.1585796
>>1585730The truth is that no political org in America has any plans to do anything. All American politics are larp and fake.
No.1585908
>>1585516The homeless guy is spouting out a weird mix of leftist and rightoid talking points. Was he paid to say what he's saying?
No.1585910
>>1585730it's beside the point anon. they have no real belief in mutual aid, they only like to use the spectacle of the act to make larger points, and when they get in to government, locally or nationally they do not do a thing to aid the classes of people who are homeless.
No.1585919
>>1585910>and when they get in to government, locally or nationally they do not do a thing to aid the classes of people who are homeless.THis can't be prove true or false. American street fascists
not neocons or gop thugs as a whole have never gotten anywhere near power. And homelessness wasn't really an issue in 1920s Germany or Italy. Or any of the pseudofascist ba'athis regimes. Homelessness appears to be an almost exclusively American liberal capitalist phenomena.
No.1586034
>>1585919>THis can't be prove true or false. American street fascists not neocons or gop thugs as a whole have never gotten anywhere near power.I think that the history of American street fascists getting their jollies by brutally murdering homeless people should be a pretty good indication of how they'd address the matter if they actually achieved institutional power. Not that the neoliberal establishment are much better in that regard, mind you.
No.1586301
>>1585520Its an extremely shitty move to give aid with political banners and thats why most leftists do it as squats or self organized groups rather than orgs
No.1586376
>>1585730>So unless there are notable groups from these orgs (and I don't just mean 'some of our members incidentally do that outside of our org') on the street doing anti-eviction aktion or aiding squats, it's a feel-good spook and not an effective plan.>>1585796>The truth is that no political org in America has any plans to do anything. All American politics are larp and fake.I have known housing organizers who do the direct action you are talking about. The use of "do they do direct action" as a litmus test here is fucking stupid and tedious because we are not currently in a revolutionary situation. No amount of direct action right now is going to have any kind of impact without a wider people's movement to amplify its reach. It does however matter that organizations like CPUSA and PSL actually have plans to eradicate homelessness because that is more than the Democrats can offer: they have no plan. The Democrats and the Republicans hold the power but the thing that the people need to be convinced of is that they can hold the power, and that they can do so with the guidance of a revolutionary party. But we are not at a stage where the people are able to take the power. So in the meantime, we practice what we preach, we do what we can, when we are able, and we don't worry about fucknuts on leftypol who imply that because we aren't doing street-to-street urban warfare that therefore we aren't sufficiently serious. At least we're doing something, unlike you, mr. sit on my hands and complain loudly about what more productive people are doing.
>>1585910>it's beside the point anon. they have no real belief in mutual aid, they only like to use the spectacle of the act to make larger points, and when they get in to government, locally or nationally they do not do a thing to aid the classes of people who are homeless.Your comment is post-modernist garbage that buttresses anti-communism in the name of appearing smarmy.
Is the homelessness issue caused by the failure of local government to act? Or, rather, is homelessness the inevitable result of the commodification of housing? What role could local government have in the abolition of housing in the context of hegemonic imperialist capitalism?
In a city near where I live, there is a COMMUNIST councilwoman. We know she is a communist because she ran as a communist and because just about every city council meeting, some bunch of assholes launch into a tirade about her being a communist. Being the only communist on the city council, all she can really do is make proposals that get rejected. It is no trouble, however, to expose how craven and how corrupt the local government is. That part works. But otherwise the role of one communist in local government is basically that because we are not in a revolutionary situation right now.
So are the handful of communists doing nothing when they get into local government? Or is it actually the overwhelming bulk of Democrats and the Republicans who DO NOTHING? The post-modernist doesn't know!
No.1586389
>>1585919These are the worst memes I have ever seen. Never post these again
No.1586448
>>1586376/leftypol/ should have a /mutual aid general/
No.1586455
>>1585919nta but i think that anon is talking about rightwing cultural Fascist parties i.e BJP in India, FdI in Italy, all the various definitely-not-Nazi parties across Eastern Europe rather than the NSDAP. These parties whenever they get into power almost always renege on populism sooner or later because they're trying to maintain the neoliberal pro-business small government Washington consensus that cannot sustain populist welfares while emphasizing the racialist and nationalist rhetorics of old fascists.
Like lets use the example of the Hindutva regime in India, whose ideology is literally adapted from interwar European fascist and integralist party. The Hindutvas talk about a single powerful national state and body-politkc ruled by a charismatic Leader, like the fascists of old, but in practice their state is very weak because the party keeps abolishing taxes of corporations and landlords thus depriving fund from the state; as a result nevermind creating a ᴉuᴉlossnW-style dictatorship the state can't even afford to pay civil servants and become increasingly subject to LATAM-style oligarchic class that couldn't give a damn about solving homelessness or pollution or stunting beyond psyopped media campaigns
No.1586489
>>1585919>THis can't be prove true or false.No it can be observed as objectively true. retard.
>merican street fascists not neocons or gop thugs as a whole have never gotten anywhere near power.I don't care I am not american. Go to your containment thread and stay there you disgusting vile horrible fascist american pig.
>Homelessness appears to be an almost exclusively American liberal capitalist phenomena.Oh and also get a passport and leave your country you horrid fucking swine.
>>1586376>Your comment is post-modernist garbage that buttresses anti-communism in the name of appearing smarmy. This is an over 18+ board anon. I don't care what your phsyical age is but if this is your mental age you have no buisness being here.
No.1586555
Joe Biggs got 17 years in prison. One of the more notable Proud Boys, the second-longest J6 sentence.
>Biggs acknowledged to the judge that he “messed up that day,” but he blamed being “seduced by the crowd” of Trump supporters outside the Capitol and said he’s not a violent person or “a terrorist.”https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-proud-boys-sentencing-seditious-conspiracy-5c8bf8a8e5dc6381e7387e31e554cee6He was also an FBI informant:
>FBI agents recruited a Proud Boys leader to provide them with information about antifa networks months before he was charged with storming the U.S. Capitol with other members of the far-right extremist group, a defense attorney says.
>Proud Boys “thought leader” and organizer Joseph Biggs agreed to provide the FBI with information about anti-fascist activists in Florida and elsewhere after an agent contacted him in late July 2020 and arranged to meet at a restaurant, Biggs’ lawyer, J. Daniel Hull, wrote Monday in a court filing.
>The two agents who met with Biggs wanted to know what he was “seeing on the ground," Hull said. Over the next few weeks, Biggs answered an agent's follow-up questions in a series of phone calls. "They spoke often," added Hull, who is petitioning a judge to keep Biggs out of jail pending trial.
>The defense lawyer's claims buttress a widely held view among left-leaning ideological opponents of the Proud Boys that law enforcement has coddled them, condoned their violence and even protected them during their frequent street brawls with anti-fascists. The Proud Boys even have counted some law enforcement officers among their ranks, including a Connecticut police officer and a Louisiana sheriff's deputy.
>Biggs also received “cautionary” phone calls from FBI agents and routinely spoke with local and federal law enforcement officials in Portland, Oregon, about rallies he was planning there in 2019 and 2020, according to Hull. “These talks were intended both to inform law enforcement about Proud Boy activities in Portland on a courtesy basis but also to ask for advice on planned marches or demonstrations, i.e., what march routes to take on Portland streets, where to go, where not to go,” Hull wrote.https://www.opb.org/article/2021/03/30/lawyer-fbi-enlisted-proud-boys-leader-to-inform-on-antifa/ No.1586655
>>1585910>it's beside the point anon. they have no real belief in mutual aid [snip]I don't disagree about the mutual aid, but what's the point?
My point was that if rightoids can tactically use charity to mask systematic issues and buy good reputation (and we already see capitalists do this), that makes mutual aid harder. This requires no sincere belief in any aid.
>>1586448And do what?
What kind of mutual aid (emphasis on 'mutual') is organized non-locally, let alone by eternally-online nerds. People should just fuckin organise local aid systems. What would that thread even talk about?
>>1586489ok retard
>>1586376>and we don't worry about fucknuts on leftypolThere was literally no reason to be a fragile hypocrite here, but you went ahead and did it anyway. Stop worrying and learn to love critical discourse.
I think there's been a miscommunication. My post said that a plan to eradicate homelessness would require direct action, rather than mere plans for governance policies, if it is to be more worth than no plan. You, in-line with the CPUSA, confirmed that yes, the plan has involved that. We are not disagreeing.
>The use of "do they do direct action" as a litmus test here is fucking stupid and tedious because we are not currently in a revolutionary situation.It really isn't. The reason why CPUSA and PSL should be taken more seriously than other parties is precisely
because they have an action plan which doesn't have getting vooted as a prerequisite, nor relying on power they aren't capable of exercising. If they didn't do the action that they do, then their plan would instead be incredible.
>At least we're doing something, unlike you, mr. sit on my hands and complain loudly about what more productive people are doing. <implying I haven't been involved in successful anti-eviction effortswhy encourage and normalise this delusion that comrades you don't know must be doing nothing?
>Being the only communist on the city council, all she can really do is make proposals that get rejected. It is no trouble, however, to expose how craven and how corrupt the local government is. That part works.I actually see value in the tactic of obtaining minor electoral wins to use the politician status to platform radical discourse to a wider audience. I even see Bernie $anders as a major player in bringing social discourse into mainstream places, indirectly fueling the US and even international labour movement (the US media global dominance should not be underestimated).
Seattle? No.1586695
>>1586555>Be informant <still get over 10 years in prison America really is a cruel country
No.1586917
>>1586695basically what happenned to every spy prostitute/matron
No.1587435
>>1587400If Unite The Right was the swan song for the alt right will Jan 6th be the same for the boomer right? Like beyond a bunch of proud boys getting arrested it’s essentially the moment where the right’s own paranoid fantasies (that they’re a “silent majority” being suppressed by evil democrat riggers) collided head first with reality. Their own protesting against the midterms was limited entirely to the online sphere, in part because “they rigged it again” doesn’t work when people see what happened to the last gaggle of retards who believed that.
No.1587468
>>1587436Broken clock. Dick spence would still argue for an ethno-state though
No.1587530
>>1585919>And homelessness wasn't really an issue in 1920s Germany or ItalyWhy are you just making shit up? Homelessness was an ever present issue in both of these countries, and only fell (but was not in any way eliminated) towards the very end of the 1920s with the economic boom that occured in both countries.
No.1587544
>>1587436I saw people on tiktok cheering on for a boomer getting 17 years for the capitol raid. It's nothing short of insane. The US is a fascist shithole. Protestors, who are largely retarded, disorganized, schizo boomers that achieved nothing despite being let in into the capitol, didn't even fire guns, or hurt anyone, getting 17 years in jail is harsh even for fascist countries.
No.1587546
>>1587544I agree, but let's be real, people get put away much longer for much less over here all the time. They got off easy by our standards
No.1587549
>>1587544>17 yearsHonestly a slap on the wrist.
Leftists have gotten worse for much less.
No.1587552
>>1587546>>1587549Of course. I'm appalled by the prison industrial complex that so shamelessly puts everyone and their mother in jail for at least 5 years for being a minor inconvenience in the operation of the fascist machine.
17 years for protesting is crazy! But "progressives" cheering it on is such a blatant symptom of the normalization of fascist life in the US.
No.1587557
>>1587552It becomes more egregious once you realized that all the people who engineered and stoked the riot like the lawmakers and media people get off with a slap in the wrist, that Trump is being indicted for bullshit charges instead of his rentier property manipulation ( since Dem donors are also guilty of that shit) and the list goes on.
No.1587572
>>1587552Fair point, it's hard to get over how satisfying it is to watch someone who can afford a lawyer still eat it in the courts. My poverty bitterness is a blindspot for sure
No.1587577
>>1587557Fuck, true. I hadn't considered that aspect.
>>1587572I agree with your post. It does feel nice and resentment is for sure a blindspot and an ideological crutch.
No.1587579
>>1587549You know it may be fucked up to say this, but in a strange way the fact that these fascist stooges are acting as a sort of "cannon fodder" kind of helps.
Helps in the way that we can now see what the state is capable of, what it will do, what resources it has and so on- because in all likelihood what they use on the fascists they will most likely use on us and then some.
Keep in mind, im not saying we should mourn or even pity the fascists- far from it- only in so far that they're a fucked sort of indicator of what can and could possibly come from the US state in the future.
No.1587584
>>1587579This is the midlest of mild for US govt use of force on its own people…. If you think this shows anything "unprecedented" then you're simply not that informed on how far the US govt has and continues to go to exert control on its population, or just for fun seemingly.
I'm not trying to be rude here, but what you're saying is a bit shocking. For example, did you know Obama extra-judicially killed US citizens? Literally drone-striked Americans. I'm not kidding. This is just a quaint example of a long long long history of unrestrained use of force by the US government. Who do you think killed MLK Jr and Fred Hampton. The use of force is usually proportional (but completely over the top) to the perceived threat, reserving extra-judicial murder for mild threats, and 17 year prison sentence to protest attendees.
No.1587587
>>1587584If you’re referring to Anwar al-Awlaki it’s a cruel twist of fate that Trump is responsible for killing his 8 year old sister.
Nothing really changes.
No.1587601
>>1587544Politics is about friends and enemies. If the enemies lose, we happy.
No.1587618
>>1587587Yes, I did mean that guy. Fuck, didn't know the connection to Trump.
It makes me unreasonably and irrationally angry that my liberal friends have near zero civic education and awareness of the extreme and ubiquitous violence the US government perpetuates both domestically and internationally in a myriad of forms. As a gay third worlder, of course this fact gets brought up about how the imperialist system brings about gay rights and shit, or that Biden is a lesser evil or whatever. This lesser evilism essentially works as a way to shut off any critical look at the american government and it's policies and the fascist policies of the one party two color dictatorship.
>>1587601Yeah, basically. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Except its all a farce that they don't even cover up.
>“I spoke to Mitch [McConnel]. He’s a friend and I spoke to him today. And, you know, he was his old self on the telephone,” Mr Biden said. “And one of the leading women on my staff, her husband’s a neurosurgeon as well. It’s not at all unusual to have the response that sometimes happens to Mitch when you’ve had a severe concussion, it’s part of his recovery.>“And so I’m confident he’s going to be back to his old self,” the president concluded. No.1587738
>>1587544>didn't even fire guns, or hurt anyone, getting 17 years in jail is harsh even for fascist countriesWell they were yelling about killing the vice president and tried to assault secret service in a closed off room. Is there any country on the planet were you can bring firearms into it's main legislation building screaming about murdering politicians (who are in the building) and face no consequences?
>getting 17 years in jail is harsh even for fascist countriesWhile I'm not defending the crazy long prison sentence: Saudi Arabia just murdered unarmed civilians at the border of a country they're starving to death and Iran is literally executing people for not wearing a fucking scarf on their head. Nazi germany executed people for being gay or being jewish or having autism. Anon what the fuck are you smoking?
No.1587752
>>1587544Counterpoint: Trump lost an election, this isn’t even debatable. He lost, period. Yet rather than accepting that lost he made unsubstantiated claims it was rigged, he had his day in court to prove it and couldn’t provide any compelling evidence, and there was plenty of counter-evidence that he was lying through his teeth. The result was him rounding up a lynch mob to go to the capital with the intent on overthrowing the results—his supporters built gallows for his political enemies.
Had they breached the door, then politicians would’ve been killed. There was no scenario where those doors opened that blood wouldn’t be spilled.
If this were Roman times, Trump and his ten closest supporters would have their heads mounted on pikes outside the senate building. What he did would’ve gotten him executed.
That his supporters were so incompetent that they dispersed the second the state started shooting at them is no defense. From a realpolitik stance, the state aught to crush every single person involved without compromise to send a message to dissidents.
No.1587758
>>1587544Whatever hurts the far right is good, besides people get worse than that just for selling weed
No.1587835
>>1587429Why did someone make a shitter version of that straitfag meme? The original punchline was actually funny.
>>1587544Well at least they only committed a failcoup and didn't do an direct attack on the integrity of the state such as hacking a corporate computer or trying to blow up a pipeline. Those give you WILD
gaoltime.
No.1587917
Imagine being a patriot front guy. You find this super badass, super larp group. You train up with them. You get your own uniform. You go to your other anon/frog friends, saying that you are about to do some real life stuff. And once you make your entrance into the scene, you get absolutely shit on.
First by the left/liberals/liberal media. This is fine, you hate those scumbags anyways.
The by the establishment conservatives. They are traitors, of course they would balk at real conservatism.
Then by MAGA boomers and more right wing figures. They aren't as based as me, so they wouldn't get it.
Then by those same anonymous friends you chat with. No wait, I'm one of you guys.
You are basically called a Fed by all the people you looked up to. By all your friends. If you tell anyone that you are in this group and its actually legit, they just yell Fed. You basically only your Patriot Front buddies to really have your back. But of course, now you're scared there really is feds inside the org. Now you're paranoid. But you're too deep. You can't leave. And now you fear getting doxxed, by either Antifa scum or my Anonymous Frog Friends.
No.1587990
>>1587752Yeah do we think China would be lenient with a similar attempt on the Great Hall of the People? There would be executions. Or Cuba?
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>>1587990 &&
>>1587752China and Cuba don't have the same (ostensible) liberalism as the West. That's not a trivial difference.
I can't even predict what the media flak would be like if the main players in the coup attempt were
non-summarily :^) executed by the state. You saw what media were saying when someone merely punched a Nazi.
No.1590040
>>1586489>This is an over 18+ board anon. I don't care what your phsyical age is but if this is your mental age you have no buisness being here.Anon, I find it interesting that you didn't deny your inherent anti-communism and jumped to "um actually you aren't old enough to understand my Advanced Opinion(TM)." What a fragile way to compose of yourself.
No.1590053
>>1589111Rapping "I'm Mr. Minadeo! (that's my real name)" is the funniest fucking self-doxx I could possibly imagine
No.1591073
>>1591025I can't help but cringe any time a reactionary even mentions the word capitalism, you already know you're about to hear the dumbest shit possible the second they open their mouth
No.1591298
>>1591007>wow look at these guys with swastika pendants heiling hitler>let's interview them!This is why you ban liberal journalists
No.1591302
>>1591298but its the marketplace of ideas!
No.1591317
>>1591295I love how they have to invent all these retard stories to cover up the fact that the brave Lithuanian nazi volunteers spend 90% of their time just butchering unarmed impoverished jewish and polish peasants. It's like how European medieval knights had to invent these retard ass legends about them killing dragons to cover up the fact that most of the time they were just bandits raiding villages and extorting pilgrims
No.1591375
>>1591317Why the fuck would Lithuanians even assist the Nazis, much less tolerate them at all? Didn't Hitler consider them the most subhuman European ethnicity lmao
No.1591380
>>1591295I hate balts so fucking much
No.1591403
>comrades we must defend children going to drag shows to own the fascists!
What the fuck happened to you leftoids
>inb4 ur a chinlet
I remember when the Left wasn’t this Frankenstein of libshit rainbow capitalism with a Marxist paint job. I bet you unironically have that BLM pride flag. Even in the supposedly “far left” circles it’s all the same bourgeoisie fag bullshit.
The majority of the Left today literally are just bourgeoisie libs that like Marxist imagery
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>>1591403Who are you quoting?
No.1591420
>>1591403>What the fuck happened to you leftoidsYou're throwing a temper tantrum about other people's kids seeing a comedy routine starring a dude in a dress playing up a stereotype, how fucking fragile are you?
>I remember when the Left wasn’t this Frankenstein of libshit rainbow capitalism with a Marxist paint job. Jesus Christ are you gonna fucking cry or something. "Oh NO! 10 year olds are seeing a standup act where a dude wears a dress! NOOOOOOOOOO!" You're going into hysterics about a goddamn drag show and then wonder why "the left" smacks your ass down when you try to storm a comedy set.
>I bet you unironically have that BLM pride flag. Even in the supposedly “far left” circles it’s all the same bourgeoisie fag bullshit.>The majority of the Left today literally are just bourgeoisie libs that like Marxist imagery
<"You become bourgeoisie by being socially liberal."See /pol/ this is why you guys are a fucking joke. Your politics are just blind reaction to what makes you personally uncomfortable. You're so fucking emasculated you think being a childless adult worrying about other peoples kids seeing things you think are gross is some meaningful political distinction. Like you genuinely think seeing a drag show makes you part of the "ruling class" or some other retarded nonsense.
No.1591428
>>1591403>being enough of an terminally-online shithead to buy le predator drag show maymaytouch grass, loser
No.1591433
>>1591420That's what's so funny to me about these dumb motherfuckers. Same people who grow up with SNL, Monty Python and Mrs. Doubtfire are suddenly convinced that a guy wearing a dress for laughs is suddenly beaming pedophile mind-control brain waves or some bullshit
No.1591447
>>1591433 (me)
Not to mention, /pol/ don't fucking know what bourgeois is. They can't wrap their head around the basic notion that class and class power are defined by economic functions and not culture, which is a position so straightforward that even a fucking six year old could understand it, but instead they just angrily circlejerk to culture war spectacle and go "REEEE the people who make me angry by producing content i don't like are the TRUE ELITES REEEEE" because they're screen addicts who think being "elite" begins and ends with the consumerist media slop they obsess over. Absolute pissbaby brains who think they're edgy rebels by simping on the internet for one particular faction of the ruing capitalist elite marketing themselves to gullible incels and edgelords as "le ebin edgy reaction" so they can feel like they're rebels even though everything about how they behave and live their lives props up the status quo. Absolute baby brains, utterly beneath contempt.
>inb4 /pol/ tries to respond with unsourced infographics full of cherry-picked bullshit they're too gullible to see past going "SEE BUT YOU HAVE TO NOOOOOOTICE, I AM LE NOTICING"apophenia isn't a substitute for critical thinking skills or meaningful social critique, ya fuckwit
No.1591453
>>1591447Once you're seriously class conscious you realize just how fucked up and overstimulated the reactionary ideology is. It's almost entirely Americans and Suburban Europeans getting "redpilled" because only in the postcolonial states do you have that level of divorce from the means of production. It is a politics entirely based on consumption and entertainment. That can only occur under the advanced imperialism and is – materially – what Lenin described as the labour aristocracy.
Reaction = divorce from or control of production..
No.1591454
>>1591433With how much they’re fucking crying about it, how emotionally invested they get, you’d forget that they can’t even honestly explain
why they’re malding. Like all of this rests on them implying something that they realize is too stupid to say upfront: that drag shows are doing something “bad” to kids. And when you ask them to explain what that “bad” thing is, they fucking can’t because they realize how stupid they sound. Is it “making them gay”? Are you basing that off anything fucking tangible or do you just assume that’s gonna happen? If so, why did this never happen at all in the history of Drag? And even if it did, what’s the absolute worst that could happen if the gay population jumps, what, 1% point higher?
Seriously, what’s the worst that would happen? Because everyone gets older eventually, that sweet kid can grow up into a douchebag in the span of 10 years. Is the goal to keep them permanently locked in a childlike state?
And again, these aren’t /pol/‘s kids were talking about. It’s other people’s kids. /pol/ is freaking out about completely unrelated people to them doing something harmless, then wonders why leftists would guard a drag show to keep them from storming it with ARs. I can fucking guarantee having some screaming used car salesman shoving a gun in their parents’ face is way more traumatizing to kids than seeing a clown in a dress.
>>1591438What’s genuinely amazing is they think despite having billions of dollars, some nebulous “financial elite” gets off by putting a pride flag in schools rather than, Yknow, doing cocaine off a hooker’s ass.
It’s like they think we’re ruled by villains in a shitty children’s cartoon. That these guys don’t care about, Yknow, the baroque hedonism of using drugs and alcohol and fucking all the time—no, they want kids they’ll never meet and that they don’t see to get nebulous gay feelings, for completely unexplainable reasons.
No.1591462
>>1591454I mean that's just it, isn't it?
/pol/'s rage at liberals is a narcissistic rage. They both fundamentally come at it from the same first-world cultural idealism in which harmful social hierarchies and systems either don't exist, don't count, or are merely the result of particular individuals engaging in conspiracy - and *they* get to be the epic protagonist, fighting The Lone Bad Guys one impotent, shit-flinging post at a time, until Order Is Restored. They can't process the notion that social power and undesirable outcomes can be emergent and therefore impersonal in nature
No.1591464
>>1591453I wouldn't call it divorce from the means of production per se, but I would definitely agree that it's a product of the information and service-economy -centric material conditions in these places. When everything is in the back of the house, and the front of the house is you just shuffling shit along and consuming and passing along messages, everything becomes a passive experience. If you put these motherfuckers in an episode of something like Serial Experiments Lain or Black Mirror, people would call it too on-the-nose and heavy-handed, but here we are.
No.1591468
>>1591454>With how much they’re fucking crying about it, how emotionally invested they get, you’d forget that they can’t even honestly explain why they’re malding. at the end of the day, their politics is reducible to reactionary virtue-signaling. They have nothing, are nothing, society dumped them in front of a series of screens and terminals for shit pay and no security, and nobody prepared them to deal with it, so they curdle and compensate for their own impotence by imagining a nostalgic era that they never even experienced, assume that they'd be the one on top rather than just another peasant or joe schmo at the mercy of superiors who view them as cattle just as the ones they currently have do, and satisfy their egos by internalizing a performance of being Le Big Dick Reactionary Chad in internet slap-fights that don't matter and just feed the same big-tech institutions they pretend to hate with more data to sell
No.1591478
>>1591462 (me)
And at the end of the day, they'll never "get it" because both /pol/ and libs have a fundamentally hyper-subjectivist foundation in which, deep down, nothing is real to them outside of subjective interpretations. They're two different flavors of the ideological equivalent of closing your eyes on the freeway and going "I can't see the car that's about to kill me, therefore they don't exist," and then opportunistically invoke an aesthetics of rationalistic objectivity that deep down they don't even believe in so they can defend whatever pet causes get their underwear in a bunch
I got a lot to say about this and it's been an annoying week
No.1591484
>>1591462 (me)
Actually I wanna walk back one part of this.
the more left-leaning libs will pay lip service to notions of systemic power, but because they come at things from such an unrealistically subjectivistic view of things, to them all forms of cultural oppression are reducible to socio-linguistic and aesthetic norms puppeting social reality from behind like a set of platonic ur-forms, rather than as an emergent result of concrete socio-economic practices. So they ultimately end up in the same place as /pol/, yellling at The Bad People who have The Bad Thoughts on the internet, thinking that if they just get rid of a particular set of bad guys, they'll be able to spread The Good News (TM) and everything will be ok
No.1591777
>>1591454The "reason" is because "if gays can't breed, then the only reason there's more gays is because they brainwash chril;dens into being gay!"
Yes, the only way you could have a gay child is if you pass on the gay gene. But since gays cant pass on the gay gene, they brainwash instead.
Exactly how they brainwash people into getting new genetics is unexplained.
No.1592817
>>1591771What a well spoken pro-democracy activist
No.1593009
>>1455451Note while watching Blood Tribe vid, they are so LARP they mimic cutting their hand on a sword, but no blood was shed in that shot.
No.1595192
>>1595041I still can't believe 2016 was real.
No.1596029
>>1596028I'm watching Varg Vikernes, Nick Fuentes, Richard Spencer, JF Gariepy and other alt-righters to understand their rhetorics better. I love to larp as opportunist alt-righter myself in conversations with them, so they would consider me as their
our guy and talk to me openly about their wild shit.
No.1596030
>>1596029What's the wildest shit they ever confessed to you? Being pro slavery? Women free ethnostates?
No.1596031
why do leftist women always want to meet fascist men and not me
No.1596032
>>1596031Meet a fascist woman to even things out
No.1596034
>>1596032I couldn't fall in love with someone that I can't respect.
No.1596036
>>1596030Idk tbh I'm a neet and I didn't meet many such people yet xd I met one nazi who drew swastikas with his shit, we had some
fascist meetup in mcdonalds with another estonian neonazi. They yelled about jews and uyghurs and how everyone who took covid vax gonna die in mcdonalds. Another guy told me that because I have autism and as result hypermasculine brain I'm lesbian and we started to talk with him unironically about jawmaxxing and shit like this. Another guy talked to me shit like nazism and communism share common body, did references to Nick Land and Guattari and Deleuze all the time, but also was very inspired by chinlets like Evola and Spengler, told me unironically shit about kaliyuga and kalki. I don't remember anything particularly, because most of the time these people talked about very abstract shit
No.1596037
>>1596033I live with fucked up revisionist frenchie and he told me that these are vidya forums that aren't worth and they're full of stupid kids :D
No.1596038
>>1596028>>1596036Hang around the eifiel tower and sing that Kanye west song.
Either get your shit kicked in by Americans, or right wing simps will defend you.
Ngl: respect. Not many women are that brave to fuck with people who on a dime of a hat will try and kill you No.1596039
>>1596037They can be both these things.
No.1596040
>>1596028I hope you get gangraped by north africans.
No.1596041
>>1596040One nazi told me that he is glad that I'm ugly because I will not get raped by Africans
No.1596042
>>1596041>I'm uglyI like ugly girls as long as they aren't fat. Unfortunately ugly girls are often overweight. I guess when you already look like shit there's not much motivation to stay fit.
Are you fat?
No.1596043
>im a female myself
YWNBAW
No.1596044
>>1596028>>1596029>the transphobe stirneroid is flirting with white nationalismholy shid color me shoggedd :—DD
No.1596046
>>1596044I'm not transphobe :( Where are such conclusions from? Also I'm not flirting with them, I'm grooming them and doing weird meetups with them to see how they communicate with each other. Also I'm not stirnoid, I use this flag just for lulz cuz I'm not very good in Marxist theory anyway.
In addition to
>>1596036I remembered one guy from meetup who started to talk about ufos and nazis which found hyperborea in North Pole and build ufos and went to colonize the moon and come back when humankind will have it worst time. Other nazis laughed on him too.
No.1596049
>>1596048American chubby or European chubby?
No.1596050
>>1596037they're both of these things,also hope you don't waste money on those retards at least,I think I know like 3 that have a paid "workout routine" bullshit
No.1596051
>>1596048what's your BMI? post height+weight if comfortable.
No.1596052
>>1596049European chubby.
>>1596051167cm/64kg
No.1596053
>>1596052But I did much workout before. I can see muscles in my thighs and abs sometimes. Also I have good jawline, I mogg even males
No.1596054
>>1596050Sometimes I pay for their food, but it depends on the situation
No.1596056
>>1596055In my boarding school in Finland I was the thinnest, if don't count the one anorexic girl. Also baltids are pretty average-short and robust by their phenotype. In Southern countries such as France or Bulgaria I'm leanmaxxing a lot so kys. People from Northern Europe need their high fat percentage to survive the winter and lacking of vitamins, which are stored in fat.
Now explain which is average healthy bmi and weight for my height?
No.1596057
>>1596031seriously why? most fascists i've met are incredibly fucking unsightly, to put it lightly. i think about that matt christman tweet a lot because every time i see a fascist with a selfie on their avi, they're hideous freaks. the hottest people are all liberals.
No.1596058
read Marx
take the RevCel pill
No.1596059
>>1596034then why would you care about someone that's attracted to fascists
No.1596060
>>1596036>we had some fascist meetupIf 9 fascists are sitting at a table and a non-fascist joins them, you got 10 fascists sitting at a table
No.1596062
live by the sword die by the sword
why are you associating with fascists? im serious, this wont end well for you
be careful
No.1596063
>>1596061You added the anime style because you're insecure about your knowledge
No.1596064
>>1596063>You added the anime style becauseNop, I just like anime art like many types of art , imimation…
Also, It's funny to see a russian imperial princess when we are talking about reactionary bfs/gfs
>you're insecure about your knowledgeI'm always insecure about my knowledge or if I 'know' anything at all, or epistemology of to know something, prerequisites of it… It's a long and consuming cycle , but its not related with anime.
No.1611127
>>1611124Why do these losers always photoshop in the glowing red eyes like it makes them look scary lol
No.1611145
>>1611127A attempt at being "edgy"
No.1611149
>>1611124>nonwhite naziquelle surprise
No.1611374
>>1455460They are feds working to further a political agenda (the FBI is heavily politicized).
No.1611403
>>1596043Your children will be trans
No.1611405
>>1611403I don't let the TV/computer raise my children.
No.1611708
>>1611405Won't make a difference
No.1611713
>>1611405Phones on the other hand…
No.1611717
>>1611405your children will be porn addicts by 19
No.1613998
>>1613825Jérome Bourbon the CEO of Rivarol (a mostly anti-jew far right rag) got intimated by a lone jewish ANTIFA
No.1614003
>>1596035I don't think just punching people is a winning strategy, but it does look funny when a fat guy runs up the stairs.
No.1614014
>>1611717This insult doesn't work as hard as the other one because 90% of males online are already porn addicts and porn addiction, just like cheating on your spouse or gambling, is often overlooked as normal male transgression that nobody wants to talk about in polite company but we all know that everyone's doing it
No.1614019
>>1614014Yeah. Even the girls are porn addicted today, less so than boys but the majority of them watches porn/erotica frequently at this point. They just consoom different less mainstream types of porn.
No.1614024
>>1614019>porn addicted>consoomare you addicted to speaking like a retard
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