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Wake me up when they raid the US military bases

>>1575685
not following especially close but last i saw it seems like the US isnt overeager to get their hands dirty with this one, theyll leave the mess to the french & ECOWAS. no doubt AFRICOM & the CIA will be involved anyway but thats a given, and without the greenlight the damage they can do with hopefully be limited

The US seems uninterested in getting directly involved, would benefit from France becoming less independent and more dependent on the western sphere, and the leader of the Niger coup was trained in the US. Maybe they got a security guarantee for the drone base and are happy to sit back and watch France get fucked. Thinks?
I acquired this from The Farm podcast, US parapolitical conspiracy pod and magazine fwiw.

>>1575685
The US has its largest drone base in niger. It will be interesting to see if they touch it

>>1575693
>The US seems uninterested in getting directly involved
meant to say the US Military seems uninterested in getting involved, other agencies and departments are much more interested.

>>1575695
Probably not. It's more anti-French sentiment in Niger I think than anti-American. Also the U.S. has been playing it rather cool, hasn't withdrawn its ambassador, and the officers who did the coup are U.S.-trained so there are relationships there.

>>1575706
Yeah I've been worried about exactly this. The US hasn't thrown a fit over this, and France losing its neocolonial influence in Africa would reduce its ability to act as a relatively independent pole within the Western bloc. Given how friendly these governments are with Russia it seems unlikely that the US was behind any of these coups, but they don't seem overly alarmed by them either. They may have concluded that the benefits of a weaker and more dependent France outweigh whatever Russia (or the Africans themselves) may have gained.

>>1575715
France sees the region as parts of its sphere of influence. I don't think the U.S. like the coups but is more pragmatic, a term U.S. think tanks use is "constructive engagement" on the belief that maintaining ties is better since if you break relations completely then they'd have no option but to go with Russia anyways. And military-to-military ties is a good way to do that, because these governments are run by the military. So the U.S. might be saying something like "we don't like the coup, you should come up with a plan to have elections in a few years, but we'll keep working with you to fight ISIS."

The other thing about Wagner is there's some relationship to the Russian government, it's a mercenary firm. It's a military corporation. If Putin outlawed Wagner, they could move to Africa and keep working independently. Africa has always been a stomping ground for mercenaries. South African mercs used to do this a lot. The MPLA in Angola (our guys) hired white South African mercs in the 90s working with Executive Outcomes to help end the civil war.

>>1575715
I think the US response is muted because of the fiasco in Ukraine. I don't think it has the political will ready for a direct intervention itself and is looking to play s support role to its political puppets.

>>1575715
>overly alarmed by them either
they are, but their most expensive african base is in niger, their economical interests are minimal there because the french have everything, and it would be a huge loss for them to get kicked out, with minimal gains for a huge cost on the horizon if they started getting really involved.
it makes sense they'd be cautious and try to maintain good relations even if theyre not happy about the development. Let the frogs take the blame for the neocolonial adventures, its not like they could do much more than them, and the ecowas is a french tool first.

>>1575740
Lmao. Why are you accepting the claim that the US basically do not care when it is very blatiently not true? The americans have been very public in pushing and backing ECOWAS.
The state of you people honestly, someone tells you something with authority on an anonymous image board and you just roll with it despite every piece of other information you have consumed on the topic telling you otherwise… Literally insane.
A board of actual mental handicaps i swear to god..

btw there has been military convoys from BF to Niger and Niger has been seeking many military volunteers/conscripts with drives which has been very successful reportedly taking in ten times the volunteers which was suspected, along with the today's statement by ECOWAS.

>>1575974
What are you disagreeing with? That anon didn't claim the US doesn't care, just that they're unlikely to intervene directly, which seems true so far.

>>1575991
Do you really not see this as incredibly naive? To believe not only that they will not directly intervene but that they are not currently already directly interviening… in a close allies colonial state that has had a coup that they have such a strong interest in, in the terms of bases and boots on the ground?
Like you really believe the americans internally are memoing 'hands off, let fr/ecowas do what it will.'? I cannot possibly believe any real person sincerely thinks this.

>>1575995
>To believe not only that they will not directly intervene but that they are not currently already directly interviening…
You just have a different idea of what "direct intervention" means than the other anon then, so there's no need to sperg out.

>Like you really believe the americans internally are memoing 'hands off, let fr/ecowas do what it will.'?
That's not what I took from the anon's post. Maybe they'll come back and clarify but I think you're just being needlessly autistic, we'll see.

>kid in the front
<shirt
dangerously based volunteer. I hope he becomes the political officer.
>>1575998
Well okay then, but it seems quite weasels to say 'not it has different meanings' when these are very plain words in english.

>>1576016
<it's bourgeoisie democracy and you cannot eat the ballot paper. you need real development in infrastructure
Rare pretty good take from African-diaspora-with-opinions Youtube.

Captain Ibrahim Traoré takes the torch of Sankarism
>(this is only a small but nice thing from a year ago but there was less light on Traoré then so i am posting)
After Roch Kaboré, Captain Ibrahim Traoré is the 2nd president of Faso and laid a wreath at the Thomas Sankara memorial.
The day after his appointment as president of the transition, Captain Ibrahim Traoré took part, on Saturday October 15, 2022 in Ouagadougou, in the commemoration of the 35th anniversary of the assassination of the father of the Burkinabe Revolution.
On the occasion, Captain Traoré, 34, laid a wreath in memory of his predecessor and his twelve companions murdered 35 years ago to the day. He then received the "torch of the revolution" from Thomas Sankara.
This commemoration was held under the theme "passing the torch to the youth".
Retired Colonel Pierre Ouédraogo, President of the International Memorial Committee Thomas Sankara explained that this is an invitation to the youth to appropriate the ideals of the Democratic and Popular Revolution, in order to continue the struggles engaged since August 4, 1983.
Thomas Sankara who came to power in August 1983 was assassinated, after 4 years of Revolution, on October 15, 1987. In April 2022
, 35 years later, the main assassins of Thomas Sankara and his 12 companions, Blaise Compaoré, General Gilbert Diendéré and Hyacinthe Kafando, were sentenced to life imprisonment.
The widow Mariam Sankara welcomed the holding of this trial and all those who fought for this purpose.
"Our fight is not over. In a next step, it will be a question of the international aspect of the trial Thomas Sankara and his 12 companions, part to shed light on the external complicities of these assassinations", she insisted.
She urged her husband's "friends" and the younger generation "to remain vigilant and patient because we need to take a decisive step".
"The 'fight against impunity, justice for Thomas Sankara' campaign continues. We must not allow ourselves to be distracted by those who never wanted this trial", Ms. Sankara noted.

>>1576678
Well I hope he truly is socialist and not just waving the corpse of Sankara around.

>>1576772
>hood
burger hands made this meme

>>1576979
the hood is where the heart is.
that is know as the everhood.

>>1576678
That's powerful, no doubt. who knows where the situation will go.

>>1577182
War, obviously.

What's the status of ECOWAS intervention prep?

>>1576678
I want to believe…

https://youtu.be/9Y2ulfgKz4A
Discussion on this topic begins just before the 15 minute mark.

>>1577202
>>1577182
Whilst all we have is hope right now it is something no that he was co-sined by the revolutionaries close to Sankara and the moves he has made towards students and talking of building power plants and intra-african solidarity.
I have not really had a ton of time to do a bunch of research except the odd articles some posted here but I think a good place to get some idea of this would be to see what the notable Sankarists and Sankarist political parties in the country are saying.
>>1577187
>What's the status of ECOWAS intervention prep?
Looking like no invasion, for now anyway, less bloodfirsty people have prevailed.

Update on the situation from Pan-Africanist and respected geopolitical analyst pandi maica.

>>1575693
>make your allies more dependent on you by hamstringing them at a time when your collective power is under serious threat
No issues there

>>1579593
This seemed like a quite good article, i think more specifically on the racism around the talk around coups is what i find most interesting though personally, there are a lot of misconceptions there and image-building propaganda of leaders using the rhetoric around coups that probably lay in racism.
From a purely education based point of view, as 'post-colonial' spaces those who are educated or sought education many of them would have ended in the military, for very obviously reasons that are colonial in nature, Sankara being a very good example of this, but also on Sankara the way he is often condemned by people on the left for taking his stance against some of the unions is another good example of critique of the, as they called it, totall African politics based in racism, except even by people who would call themselves otherwise 'anti-racist'.
>>1579307
>respected geopolitical analyst pandi maica.
come on now anon this is a silly thing to say.

>>1579817
>come on now anon this is a silly thing to say.
I'm willing to lay money on no ecowas going to war based on his analysis.

Do not ignore people because they speak a different dialect of english.

>>1579824
>I'm willing to lay money on no ecowas going to war based on his analysis.
I do not disagree, i made the same here >>1578506 and it is not a very uncommon position i think, and not at all to denigrate his analysis but he is not some publicly well analyst, he is still a very small and amateur production.
>Do not ignore people because they speak a different dialect of english.
Well that came out of nowhere….. Its complete lack of prompt or context feels like projecting to me, anon?

>>1579833
I'm engaging in ideological work and re enforcing that contrary to your view, Panda Maica is a respected geopolitical analyst.

My time here is up, off to work on my personal correspondence, have fun :)

h\ttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-24/repair-ship-bound-for-cut-cables-off-africa-s-west-coast-as-internet-interrupted
>Repair Ship Bound for Cut Cables Off Africa’s West Coast as Internet Interrupted
Accidents are known to happen, but the timing of this is quite suspicious.

>>1579866
He is a tik-toker that is doing the same easy pan-african talking points, anon. Lots of people do it and it never is really saying to much passed riling people up with populist sentiments whilst very purposely trying to say actually very little concrete, try not to get dragged in to the first one catches your eye, anon…

>>1581041
Think what you want, you're still wrong.
https://youtu.be/CrScAmkYbAk

>>1581199
>some fool in europe shucking and jiving for tick-tock.
It is just embarrassing and more than a little sad.

>>1581685
Man's gotta make a living.
He highlights the stuff where you should pay attention to him because he's being dead serious.

>>1581691
You should if you are craving good video content about Afrika check out Kambale Musavuli out of DRC, an example of someone who I would say is an actually respected Pan African analyst with real leftists view points and does not feel the need to 'do the dance' on ticktock for certain you-know-who's to feel sympathetic.

>>1581794
I don't filter for ideology when judging geopolitical analysts, I want information.
This one is good too, a bit late but West Africa isn't his bailiwick and accords with Panda Maica on ECOWAS.

>>1581796
How does one have good analysis if for example they see the history of the world in the way of the things say these new pan-africanists devoid of class politics believe, compared to understanding the world as a history of class struggle?

>>1581798
I'm looking for reasoning skills.
I can do my own reasoning for your concerns.

at a niger protest

>>1582441
Infinitely better than flying Russian flags

>>1582441
based

apparently niger had announced kicking out the french ambassador, which then announced he wasnt leaving. and then I come across picrel in the ukraine thread lmao

>>1583563
>apparently niger had announced kicking out the french ambassador,
France, US, Nigeria and Germany.

>>1581794
>>1581796
I've been asking for geopolitical analysis from outside the west. Thanks for the recs anons.

>>1582441
Nice

>>1575695
……..why the fuck is its largest drone base in Niger?

>>1583793
Because Niger is an important resource zone and to combat ISIS in West Africa. (A significant chunk of them came from Libya after America destroyed it)

CIA think tank being critical of ECOWAS

>The creation of ECOWAS in May 1975 was led by General Yakubu Gowon, the Nigerian head of state, and Gnassingbe Eyadema, his Togolese counterpart. These leaders recognized the benefits of regional integration. Since its inception, ECOWAS has played a crucial role in promoting stability, peace, and economic integration in the region. It has successfully facilitated peace talks to resolve conflicts, such as in Guinea Bissau, and has also utilized force in the past, as seen in Liberia and Sierra Leone. However, many West Africans perceive ECOWAS as a club of presidents whose objectives do not sincerely align with the aspirations of the people.

>The issue of double standards in handling coups, whether a military takeover or revolution de palais, in the West African region is a crucial matter. ECOWAS has decided to resort to military force in Niger if diplomatic efforts fail in reinstating the democratically elected president. While this decision may seem noble, it could also potentially lead to its implosion. Additionally, the stance of Mali and Burkina Faso, which consider any military intervention against Niger as a declaration of war against them, highlights not only the fragility of the union but also the differing political visions within the union.

>Currently, there are two conflicting groups present in the regional entity. The first group is made up of anti-coup leaders, pro-West, but not truly democrats. This group consists primarily of elected civilians, such as the presidents of Nigeria and Ivory Coast. The second group is made up of pan-Africanists who are pro-Russia and mostly young soldiers, such as the leaders of the juntas in Mali and Burkina Faso. The latter appears to have a larger support base among the population across their countries. The outcome of ECOWAS’ decision to take military action or not will have significant consequences for the region’s stability.

>The refusal of the putschists in Niger to return power to Bazoum and ECOWAS’ decision to use military force could result in the regional organization splitting into two entities. A federation comprising Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger, and possibly Guinea could emerge, challenging the remaining members of ECOWAS. This option could lead to more instability and worsen the suffering of the populations in the region. However, If ECOWAS decides not to intervene militarily, Mali and Burkina Faso might gain more influence in the region, and unfortunately, other coups may follow. This is a dilemma ECOWAS has to address.

>To truly regain the trust and confidence of West Africans, ECOWAS must understand the new current political reality in some of its member states. Instead of being utilized by powerful nations and presidents who fear becoming victims of coups in the future due to poor governance in their countries, ECOWAS should prioritize dialogue and peaceful approaches in Niger, and ask itself who will benefit from the military intervention, the killing of thousands of Africans, and a potential dismemberment of the union. Turning Niger into a kind of Ukraine with pro-Russia and pro-West fighting is not the solution.
https://www.fpri.org/article/2023/08/can-west-africa-survive-the-coup-in-niger/

>>1583803
Maybe not as many Wagner flags flying anymore compared to a week ago.

>>1583793
See map. Also it's a fairly sizeable base, 1,000 U.S. troops.

>>1583793
Niger is a major source of uranium for France, which gets a quarter of its power from nuclear.

>>1583817
Also they're trying to build a new gas pipeline through it.

What does France even look like without it's neocolonies?

Coup in Gabon

https://twitter.com/AmaliaMbt/status/1696739732489654387

Gabon facts: It has been ruled by the same family since 1967 (that's 55 years). The current (or maybe now former) president is Ali Bongo who has been president since 2008, and is the son of former president Omar Bongo, an "ardent Francophile."

There was a failed coup attempt in 2019.

There were also elections on Saturday but it doesn't seem like there are any results and the government (this was before the coup) cut internet access and France 24 broadcasts. The opposition candidate, economics professor Albert Ondo Ossa, said Bongo lost but wasn't conceding.

>>1584425
Completely reliant on America

The Gabon opposition united around Ossa in the Alternance 2023 alliance, and looking at the others, they look like highly qualified people. Former ministers with a technocratic, liberal modernizer program. Sima is a former prime minister. Chambrier is the former executive director of the IMF. Missambo has had various ministerial roles (many of them involving women's affairs). Joktake is a Pentecostal minister, but also a secularist.

One candidate who withdrew from the coalition, Pierre-Claver Maganga Moussavou of the "Social Democratic Party," said he didn't like them because they "defend the idea of a Jacobin, centralized state."

More Gabon. Interview from 2019 with teacher and activist Laurence Ndong:

>The situation in Gabon is catastrophic. The regime has been perpetuated there for fifty years, the son having succeeded the father. The Bongo clan confiscated power, blocking any possibility of democratic alternation. All elections are rigged in favor of this clan, which does not hesitate to unleash violence against its opponents, as in 2016, during the bloody assault by security forces on the headquarters of presidential candidate Jean Ping. The result of this regime? The living conditions of the population are deteriorating, the country is bankrupt, ruined. But they do not want to change anything: they continue to plunder the wealth of the country. The ras-le-bol is widespread today … In Gabon as elsewhere, citizens' movements are getting organized, but dictators are taking the seed. Under the Ali Bongo regime, all demonstrations were banned and bloodily repressed. Risk a nose out and you expose yourself to live ammunition. It's a strategy of fear, to dissuade people from taking to the streets.

>Paris' support for this dictatorship has never wavered. Bongo senior came to power with the support of France. The forced passage of 2009 to install Bongo fils received the blessing of Nicolas Sarkozy. In 2016, François Hollande remained silent on election rigging and post-election repression. In the campaign, Emmanuel Macron believed that the election of Ali Bongo had gray areas and that it deserved a distanced judgment. But the same gave the hug to this tyrant at the last Francophonie Summit in Yerevan (Armenia). The French authorities have always been favorable to the Bongo regime, whatever its actions against the Gabonese people.

>One would have to wonder why the worst dictatorships on the continent are now concentrated in the richest area of ​​the French backyard. Just one example: in Cameroon, Paul Biya, 86, in power for thirty-five years, who lives in Switzerland ten months out of twelve, was "re-elected" on October 22 for a seventh term. No one in the international community finds fault with it. However, when the populations do not see a way out, when the ballot boxes no longer speak, how to get rid of these anachronistic and repressive regimes?
These blocking situations are worrying and dangerous. I am convinced that change will only come through non-violent struggles. Alas, the temptation to violence exists. We must remain vigilant so that power returns to the people, so that democracy takes hold. It is out of the question to let a dictatorship succeed a dictatorship.
https://archive.ph/y9n0G#selection-1851.1-1887.71

And an analysis in L'Humanite from that year following the failed coup attempt:

>Godfather of Françafrique, great financier of the hexagonal electoral campaigns, Omar Bongo had built a solid and lucrative system of monopolizing the oil revenue and the wealth of the country, to the detriment of his people. With an area of ​​less than 268,000 square kilometers and 1.8 million inhabitants, Gabon is one of the smallest countries in Africa. One of the richest too, with its exceptional natural resources, starting with black gold, whose exploitation is dominated by the French giant Total. The many subsidiaries of French companies established in the country take advantage of precious woods and mining resources (manganese, iron, uranium, diamonds, etc.). For a long time, the inevitable percentages to be conceded offered the actors of Françafrique a precious preserve. But, since 2015 and the crisis linked to the fall in the price of a barrel of oil, the difficulties have been piling up. With severe consequences on the economy of the country, ultra-dependent on hydrocarbons, which represent nearly 50% of GDP, 60% of tax revenues and 80% of exports. With the contraction of oil revenue, Gabon's debt exploded, rising from 18% of GDP in 2008 to 60% last year, according to official figures. On June 19, 2017, the IMF granted Libreville a loan of 642 million dollars, in return for “structural reforms” to “contain public spending”. This is enough to stir up social conflicts and the anger of the Gabonese, who are paying the austerity bill in cash.
https://archive.ph/ayIB1#selection-1801.0-1892.0

Abusive group relationships never last long term. Either burnout persists or the inner working of the leadership begin fighting one another.

>>1575995
France is not a close ally of the United States, and the few US interventions in Africa always ended in disaster, so I very much doubt a direct or even indirect American intervention is likely to happen.

Americans have few interests in the region and their presence is mostly to fight the Islamist boogeyman after 9/11.

>>1575693
>The Farm
m i l i e u

>>1584954
Also reliant on France. Their entire manganese reserves is exclusively for france to plunder.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/eramet-shares-tumble-as-gabon-coup-halts-manganese-mining-3bf28483
Gabon has the largest manganese mine in the world. Of course under a french company.
https://news.metal.com/newscontent/100942720/smm-news-eramet-expands-production-capacity-of-moanda-manganese-mine-in-gabon-with-a-target-of-7-million-tons-per-year-in-2023/

Coup In Gabbon!!
>>1585000
>Americans have few interests in the region
<biggest CIA/drone base in Niger.
What 3 letter agency do you work for anon? This is not the kind of work wich should be done for free.

Huge deal, it might be too early to say what's going on and what the military officers want but if the coupists take an anti-French stance then this might be the biggest blow to French neo-colonial foreign policy in multiple decades.

Gabon, being ruled by a single family for more than 60 years, is the staunchist pro-French ally in Africa. After failing to remain a French overseas territory, it stayed under French rule in all but in name effectively with its large oil and mineral reserves.

>>1585206
>Coup In Gabbon!!
<Russia and China are among the other countries that have expressed their concern

Sorry but if the multipolar™ countries are deebly concerned and don't like it, then I can't support it.

>>1585267
russia and china put out statements like that for the one in niger too, you're getting too caught up on PR shit ;)

>>1585267
>Getting filtered by diplomat doublespeak
ngmi

'Gabon' is a releasable nation in the 2016 computer game Hearts of Iron IV

>>1585267
I'm sorry anon, you are simply a fucking idiot.

Large celebrations around Gabon, cheering the military, defacing Ali Bongo posters and so on, vidsrel.

very nice, now we need the same in senegal

What makes this all so ogre for the west is the paradigm shift brought by new technologies of control. If the west tries any of the historical destabilization gambits the new administrations can immediately call on Russia and China for help fighting criminals or terrorism.
>western sponsored but deniable bandit force appears on Gabon's border
>lancets
>30 mile DMZ enforced with new tech
It's all ogre so suddenly

>>1585337
>the new administrations can immediately call on Russia and China for help fighting criminals or terrorism.
Do not be naive anon, you are being optimistic probably ideologically based, after all NF had it's coup a year ago and show me where it is 'ogre so suddenly'?
They can and are calling for help from these countries but it remains to be seen how effective the help will be.
We must wait and see.

>>1585342
>>1585342
>optimistic
probably
>ideologically based
indubitably. the point is that the cost of repelling the usual destabilization activities has fallen through the floor and there are willing actors able to provide the hardware immediately. this scenario didn't exist until a few weeks ago, hence all the sudden coups. everyone has realized that the western power structure is now a house of cards.

>>1585353
>has fallen through the floor and there are willing actors able to provide the hardware immediately.
You cannot know that. To be generous, this is guessing.
>this scenario didn't exist until a few weeks ago, hence all the sudden coups.
Mali - August 2020, May 2021
BF - January 2022, Sept 2022.
Stop lying to everyone to support your fantasies.

>>1585360
>Stop lying to everyone to support your fantasies
nta but if you're going to be this smug you should probably check if what you're saying is true first
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/30/mapping-africas-coups-detat-across-the-years
>Mali - August 2020
>Chad - April 2021
>Guinea - September 2021
>Sudan - October 2021
>Burkina Faso - January 2022
>Niger - July 2023
and now Gabon in August 2023
if even the most pro-french puppet government in africa is getting coup'd then it's a sign that things are changing

>>1585371
>you should probably check if what you're saying is true first
<posts a list that corroborates what i said
uhhh?
Idiot.

>>1585373
>>posts a list that corroborates what i said
it didn't you dipshit, as a response to anon calling this a new scenario with "sudden coups" you listed just mali and bf as if those were the only coups that happened recently if you exclude niger and gabon
to quote yourself back to you: Stop lying to everyone to support your fantasies :^)

>>1585377
>noooo you need to post the whole list!!
why? when the list only further backs the fact that this string of coups is not a product of the last couple of weeks?
I don't even think you are a liar anymore, just an actual honest to god simpleton. Probably an american.

>>1585379
>>noooo you need to post the whole list!!
>why?
because it proves your point wrong and makes you look like the clueless retard you are?
when the third anti-french coup of 2023 happens don't forget to link your suicide stream here

>>1585386
<7 coups in the last few years before 2023
>this proves you wrong and you should kill yourself!!
what is going on in your brain? sincerely. are you not taking your meds? are you some nobrained /polack/ playing pretend? or?

>>1585387
>y-you're american!! you're /pol/!!!!!
settle down anarkitty :3
it's ok, you were wrong and the coups are clearly ramping up in frequency, there's no need to be upset and in denial unless you're a faggot from the imperial core scared of losing your treats

France is falling before my eyes and its glorious.
Which is the next African state to go?

>>1585391
>no no you're wrong! my own evidence? wrong!
Ah, this must be the 'gass lighting' you faggots speak about so often.
very good.

What is happening in Gabon?

"So a complete answer would take at least eight years of study, a doctorate and a thesis. A sufficient response two or three books (I suggest starting with African Affairs by Pierre Péan). But let's try anyway…

Good already the coups d'etat in Africa it's not new huh? It's a very deep-rooted tradition. But there is indeed an interesting outbreak going on right now.

To try to give you an outline.

After the colonial period (direct occupation by Western countries) and the neo-colonial period of the Cold War (indirect economic and political control through political elites), Africa has entered a new era in terms of economic interactions. , policies and power relations with the rise of Islamism and Russian and Chinese ambitions.

On the one hand, Western countries have loosened their control over Africa's economy and politics. It is both a political evolution (the very sordid neocolonialism à la Foccard is no longer popular) and an economic one (Europe has deindustrialized and no longer has as much interest in preserving its African meadows, especially since the international market for raw materials opened wide with the end of the Cold War).

On the other hand, China wants these raw materials and is starting its own "neocolonial" phase to assert itself as an independent global power, so it is investing considerable sums in Africa. Russia has also seen opportunities to create "low cost" client states and its methods of destabilization (social networks, mercenaries, etc.) work much better there than in Europe since European countries (former colonial powers) are the historical oppressors.

All this brings us to Mali, which was the starting point of the brothel. Basically, in 2012 the Malian government was on the verge of collapse in the face of Islamist terrorist groups and called on France for help (Operation Serval). This operation was a great military success but the transition into an anti-terrorist operation was more complicated (Operation Barkhane).

After ten years of presence in Mali, what was an anti-terrorist stabilization operation began to be perceived as a typical neo-colonial occupation of the 1960s. Russian propaganda in particular pressed on colonial resentment and the Malian population began to demand the withdrawal of French troops (crucial detail, the population of southern Mali, where Barkhane did not operate, was very upset against the French presence, while the population of the North who had had to deal with Islamists and French soldiers remained rather pro-Barkhane… Who knows why…). It ended with the coup d'etat of 2021 and the putschists demanded the withdrawal of the French Army.

And of course, the French Army withdrew. Because the crux of the matter is that France is no longer a neo-colonial power , it no longer has its interests. French interests in Africa are to limit the spread of Islamism and to avoid civil wars which create migratory pressures. Without an invitation from local governments, France no longer has the internal/international support to intervene in Africa on its own.

But the resentment of the neo-colonial era is still there and created a huge anti-French movement which is a godsend for the Russians/Chinese/putschists since they can claim to fight against a colonial power and obtain "great victories "by managing to "throw off the French yoke" just by putting on airs…Even if the yoke in question consisted in stabilizing the region against terrorist groups…

(Besides, since the departure of the French, the North of Mali has fallen back into a chaos of nameless violence, but hey, it's almost a detail…)

Still, a lot of ambitious soldiers took good note of what had happened in Mali. Now they know that France will not intervene militarily to preserve friendly governments as it would have done in the 1950s and 1990s. So suddenly lots of governments that had looked stable for decades lost the "bond" that kept their own military in step. The soldiers realize that Mr. President-for-life-completely-legitimately-elected no longer has the protection of the Elysée and rediscover their political ambitions since no one can stop them.

They also know that they will have no difficulty in finding funds and markets by turning to China and Russia, once power is taken. And then what is good is that it is difficult for the international community to oppose people who overthrow a dictator in the name of democracy…Even when everyone knows very well that they don't have no intention of restoring said democracy.

And then, when in doubt about their legitimacy, they can always wave the rag of anti-French sentiment and the specter of the colonial era. This was enough both to ensure the support of the population and to paralyze any idea of French intervention, which would immediately be accused of neo-colonialism. ( You want a guerrilla war, that's how you get a guerrilla war). The slightest hint of a French presence is waved on social networks like a rallying cry.

This is why ECOWAS tried to substitute its own threat of military intervention for that of France to bring the putschists in Niger to heel. African states are individually weak and their governmental traditions are unstable. Democracies and dictatorships fear their own armies, and there is the fear of a contagion of military coups without the establishment of collective security guarantees. Gabon is showing that they were quite right…

(To add a detail: France's difficult position, for example, is that supporting ECOWAS, which would probably be the best thing to do, immediately risks painting ECOWAS with the same brand of infamy of "puppet of France". So we are a little forced to shut our mouths and hope that it passes.)"

>>1585420
>On the other hand, China wants these raw materials and is starting its own "neocolonial" phase to assert itself as an independent global power,
I'm sorry i could not read past this.
It is insane to call Chinese involvement in africa as 'collonialism or neocolonialism anon. You have to know this, right?

>>1585420
thats literally a liberal cope copy pasted from reddit after passing through a translator.

>>1585420
>(To add a detail: France's difficult position, for example, is that supporting ECOWAS, which would probably be the best thing to do, immediately risks painting ECOWAS with the same brand of infamy of "puppet of France". So we are a little forced to shut our mouths and hope that it passes.)"
what a slimy fuck, ecowas is literally our tool for enforcing our imperialism in the region

>Even if the yoke in question consisted in stabilizing the region against terrorist groups…
of yeah, a situation we and our allies directly caused, and french intervention working so well things just got increasingly worse… and completely forgetting about the economic exploitation (its all over apparently, we just send the army for protecting democracy and human rights!)

>>1585467
>what a slimy fuck, ecowas is literally our tool for enforcing our imperialism in the region
It's not even that. It is a tool for Nigeria, which is a local tool of imperialism, to enforce imperialism and add itself legitimatcy in doing so, as 'ECOWAS does X' sounds better than 'Nigeria does X'.

>>1585472
Are we supposed to pretend that the dude who wrote 3 biographies about himself isn't a virulent narcissist?

>>1583645
>I've been asking for geopolitical analysis from outside the west. Thanks for the recs anons.
'Break Through News' is another i would recomend, has a lot of good english language content on Africa. It is western based but they tend to have very good guests, both western and regional, generally very knowledgeable people and tends to be very information based rather than aesthetics based which you see a lot in the psuedo 'pan african' media.
viderel for example i remember being very good.

>>1585508
Also they're a media arm of PSL so they always try to keep their shit grounded in Marxism.

>>1585528
>PSL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation
^— Is this the PSL you were refering to? I did not know this and deducted from search engine.
I did not know this, i have only watched them recently with the context of non-american followed happenings, is here anything as a non-american i should know about them when consuming their reporting/analysis?

>>1585567
It's them. They're pretty good.

The leader of the Gabon coup is Gen. Brice Clotaire Oligui-Nguema, the head of the Republican Guard. Fun fact: He's also Bongo's cousin and owns three properties in the D.C. suburbs. Here's an article in L'Humanite (the paper traditionally close to the French Communist Party) with a Gabonese journalist that describes it as a "palace revolution" more than a coup.

<Did the announcement of a coup in Gabon surprise you?
>Not really. It was a bit in the pipelines. Maybe not a coup directly like that , but we knew the risk of political instability that could lead to the ousting of the Bongo regime.

>We felt, before the elections, a very profound desire for change within the Gabonese population. Much stronger than in 2016, when Jean Ping showed up against Ali Bongo. An outcome was foreseen in terms of confrontation which could actually lead to such a coup d'etat.

>Whatever one thinks of it, this coup d'etat will have made it possible to avoid a bloodbath, because, probably, the proclamation of the results establishing the victory of Ali Bongo was never going to be accepted by the Gabonese. They would have gone out into the street. We could then have witnessed a strong repression on the part of the soldiers acquired in power. For the time being, what happened in Libreville seems more like a palace revolution than a real coup d'etat as we saw in Mali.

<But who are these putschists?
>They are linked to the presidential guard led by General Brice Oligui Nguema. There is a very well trained and equipped corps, probably the most equipped in Gabon. A body that was set up by Françafrique at the time, with Robert Maloubier and Ambassador Maurice Delauney. We are still in the pure tradition of the Foccart networks.

>There is strong popular support for this coup. Because all this takes place in a geopolitical context which is marked by a crisis in France's African policy, a desire for change among African populations.

>The fact that the promises of democratic renewal have not given birth either to real economic and social emancipation of the populations, who have become extremely impoverished, also plays a role. Finally, there is also a desire to diversify diplomatic and economic partnerships and to get out of the Franco-African one-on-one, from Paris and its backyard. It is a questioning of the French policy pursued since decolonization.

<Can we make a link between everything that is happening, from Mali to Niger via Burkina Faso and Guinea?
>Yes. The African generation that is rising is not that of the 1960s. It is that of the 1990s, which was strongly mobilized during the processes, what have been called the democratization processes, but which gave birth mostly a mouse.

>It made it possible to change everything so that nothing changed, according to Lampedusa's formula. We stuck to that logic. To return to the case of Gabon, the Bongo system remained in place. He organized electoral polls and, as the economist François-Xavier Verschave put it very well, these were junk polls where the system was perpetuated. The Gabonese Democratic Party (PDG) falsified and rigged the elections. The electoral disputes were put down in blood.

>We no longer really want Françafrique. Africans believe that today they must look at the world with all its advantages, with Turkish, Russian and Chinese partnerships, which themselves have another reading of economic cooperation, completely different from the French logic, from a a certain paternalism, of a neocolonialism.

>This is what we are witnessing today. You also have the contagion effect with the coup, first, which began in August 2020 in Mali, with the seizure of power by Assimi Goïta and his friends, and, subsequently, in Burkina Faso, in Guinea, in Niger recently, and now in Gabon. But there is clearly a questioning today of France's African policy.

>The African populations must take their destiny into their own hands and get out of the institutional pillars of Françafrique, which are the CFA franc , the French military presence, the French aid workers, and then obviously, the electoral ballots, often rigged, with what we called the "white wizards", that is to say these constitutionalists who were sent to tailor Constitutions, which could allow them to serve 3, 4, 5 terms in a row.
https://archive.ph/d4zKE

>>1585360
>Stop lying to everyone to support your fantasies.
anon this is the post I made >>1585337. It's a broad general point about a military/technological paradigm shift (made apparent and proven in Ukraine) that's a major factor in the geopolitical shift happening in Africa imo. It's about the effectiveness of lancets and the new abilities in area denial technology to enforce a DMZ. Can we address it in those terms and talk about the details later?

I know nothing about Gabon. Is it the same situation as with Niger/Mali/Burkina?

>>1585605
Basically, yeah. French comprador bourgeoisie regime getting BTFO by an officers' coup. That's West/North Africa for you. Officers coup often overthrows compbooj regime, CIA coup often overthrows natbooj/socialist regime.

>>1585605
but it seems like this coup is lead by someone directly related to comprador leader, so the situation might not be as good as it was in other w african coup countries, we should wait and see what happens

>>1585608
Thanks for the clarification. Fuck the CIA I hope more of these nations coup their bougie traitors and deal with them accordingly.

There's been a country called Gabon this whole time?

>>1583817

usa

drones

largest

in the world

come on, think before you type please comrade.

>>1585623
This is in here, anon: >>1576075
>>1585593
How does that square with the fact these coups are in part motivated exactly because of parts of the military frustrated that progress has not been made and so on?
Like i said before, by this logic why has not these extreme gains been made in BF or Mali within the last year? Why is the Sahel insurgencies still in large despite it being nothing but bandits and gangsters?
Technologies don't even win wars, anon, that is a liberal way of thinking, not to insult you in this regard, but it is the logic of the nazis and their wonder weapons to come and win the war any day now, it is the logic of the West which sends spectacularly X or Y weapon and drone for cheap PR gains.
I see a big problem in how you keep talking about the region as if it will be destabilized by the west and conventionally - suspiciously to my eyes - ignoring or talking around the fact the region IS destabalised currently and that is not changing right now and has not changed over the last years. How many have died to terror attacks in BF alone, to again use as an example, this year, even officially? 5 or thousand?
So when is this epic technology going to kick in, exactly?

>>1585323
Rigged elections. Make Africa Great Again

>>1585337
>call on china for help
Does China even militarily help anyone outside of Asia?

>>1585684
I think he means in terms of selling weapons and loans and so on, anon.

>>1585669
To be fair, only like 2 million people live there and half of it is a savanna.

>>1585675
In the past the ever present threat of Western destabilization was in the form of bands of men in fast moving vehicles. Recent advances in drone technologies, at large scale and low cost, have apparently nullified this threat. The Russians say they have a million lancets in stock. In the past holding national territory and enabling daily life was subject to the ongoing threat of US sponsored terrorism. Long distance ground based camera arrays, drone monitoring, facial + vehicle plate recognition, state commerce apps, can now effectively nullify this threat too. Relatively inexpensive hardware/systems can be provided by China and Russia to countries without much trouble imo, the west has been doing it forever. I forget who said recently that Russia is now a full service country, it can provide everything to allies in need. Energy, food, military intervention, PMC, political structures, possibly game-changing recent miltech at scale, and maybe most importantly - all at a fraction of the cost of equivalent western capabilities.

Gabon

>>1585727
but. none of this has happened.
you are quite literally just fantasizing like you just read a Tom Clancy novel.

>>1585727
>In the past the ever present threat of Western destabilization was in the form of bands of men in fast moving vehicles.
Not very Western, but a rather traditional way of fighting in the Sahel just upgraded with Hiluxes.

>>1585692
>To be fair, only like 2 million people live there and half of it is a savanna.
Worth mentioning also that it is a very wealth country, and not just wealthy with what is in the ground, it is an OPEC nation and aleady Africas fourth largest oil exporter and i think does production or refinement or wtf in the country, which is not common in Africa and a large part of the problem as a mechanism to sustain African impoverishment. It is also a sector that is heavy with direct state influence and strong trade unions. IIRC. (and my memory is trash so don't shoot me if i remembered wrong and made this up.)

https://www.youtube.com/live/mWLQm1qClRM
I'll be back with the time stamp the relevant discussion begins in a bit.

In the meantime in the middle of this video, the widely acclaimed speaker, writer, journalist, and political analyst Caleb Maupin argues that the RCP may have been coopted by French intelligence.

what do we know anout Gabon? what caused it, personal ambitions or anticolonialism? is it leftist and how likely is it that it was inspired by other coups.

>>1585684
>Does China even militarily help anyone outside of Asia?
<I think he means in terms of selling weapons and loans and so on, anon.
>>1585913
>but. none of this has happened.
nobody said it fucking happened. The sudden threat of it happening, which didn't exist in the very recent past, is what is changing conditions and power relations in Africa rn.
>>1585922
>Not very Western, but a rather traditional way of fighting in the Sahel just upgraded with Hiluxes.
Anon when I said western destabilization I didn't mean grunts in bradleys and humvees speeding across the Sahel. Western destabilization is obviously local elements sponsored by western interests.
Again, the point is that recent miltech advances, confirmed and proven in Ukraine, when combined with other area denial and "smart society" tech, have suddenly nullified the unspoken threat of western destabilization that le Francafrique depended on. Russia and China are perfectly and legitimately positioned to profit.

>>1586253
Here you go.
https://youtu.be/mWLQm1qClRM?t=2090

>>1586317
That is the 34 minute 50 second mark.

>>1586333
based

>>1586333
they shortened it from 40 days to just 4 days now?

>>1586333
Kill or capture em all. The only way to make them leave. Fuck the frogs.

The Grayzone and Blumenthal's reporting on Bongo's Obama connections, DC properties, and involvement in Libya's destruction is pretty explosive, even if only for the timeliness. This level of reporting usually only emerges months or years later. The fact that it's out there while the situation is hot feels like a big threat to Western activity in Africa. Blumenthal sure is using his invulnerability to the maximum, and on the side of the angels.

>>1587060
>The Grayzone and Blumenthal's reporting on Bongo's Obama connections, DC properties, and involvement in Libya's destruction is pretty explosive, even if only for the timeliness.
I agree on the timeliness, but it's pretty shallow, except for the Libya thing which is just, 101 blowback lol

Two articles on the Bongo ruling family in operation in Gabon, basically being installed by France and being brutal compradors continuing the colonial regime in all but name… until the new guy who got deposed in this coup entered in the 90s, and got a whitewashed PR campaign (hence the handwringing about "undoing progress"):

The Crimes of Bongo: Apartheid & Terror in Africa's Gardens of Eden, Part One
<Bill Quigley 21 Jul 2009
https://blackagendareport.com/content/crimes-bongo-apartheid-terror-africas-gardens-eden-part-one


The Crimes of Bongo: Apartheid & Terror in Africa's Gardens of Eden, Part II
<Bill Quigley 05 Aug 2009
https://blackagendareport.com/content/crimes-bongo-apartheid-terror-africas-gardens-eden-part-ii

>>1587322
>I agree on the timeliness, but it's pretty shallow
motherfucker who are you to
>Two Black Agenda Report articles on Bongo. 2009.
Sir yes Sir. Gonna read them now.

>>1585922
Is there a more working class vehicle than the Hilux?

>>1587322
God-tier reporting in those sources anon. I kneel. Everything is referenced and intel operations and connections outlined. The two links should be in the OP.

Everything is connected
>The infamous U.S. multinational Union Carbide, responsible for crimes against humanity in Bhopal, India, was heavily involved in another catastrophe: uranium mining in Gabon. A hospital near the remote Mounana uranium mine has documented the long history of under five children living and dying with disfigured bodies, gynecological tumors, blood and skin diseases, cancers and leukemias, or the epidemics of radiation poisoning that quietly obliterated so many adult miners over 38 years of operations.23 It is the same, ugly story in Niger, only uglier, due to higher populations of Tuareg and Toubou nomads; National Geographic writers who have whitewashed Gabon hide the same ugly imperial realities of uranium.

>>1587137
>we must work with them
A good frog is a dead frog

>>1588569
Haftar sucks at being a warlord so much, he couldn't lead an assault out of a wet paper bag. He's also a former CIA asset. Kinda like a Sasha Baron Cohen character but funnier and more believable.

This is the extent of the super-exploitation in french neo-colonies. Assuming Niger manages to sell the same amount of uranium as before, this would increase their income from 220 Million dollars to 55 BILLION dollars per year.

For context, the entire GDP of Niger was less than 15 Billion dollars in 2021.

>>1587467
<Politics? Who cares You must satiate my American bloodlust Africans!
Worlds smartest /leftypol/ user.

>>1588806
So what's a bloodless strategy for NIger to expel the French and whoever else they want to expel? It seems unlikely that the French would go as far as Israel and order snipers to shoot people approaching the fences.
>>1588807
That's the data I needed in the bar on Saturday night. People will refuse to understand until it's laid out that simply.

>>1588940
How do you even do a bloodless solution when they definitely won't let you? This is the french we're talking about here. The same force that routinely shot civillians in africa for even slighting them.
https://www.dw.com/en/burkina-faso-french-soldiers-injure-protesters/a-59892337
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/27/niger-two-killed-and-17-injured-in-clash-with-french-military-convoy
All of this was before the coup even. When both countries were subservient.
>After 13 French troops died in a helicopter crash in Mali in November 2019 he demanded that West African leaders fly to France for an emergency summit, an outburst perceived as neo-colonial arrogance, particularly as Mali and Niger had suffered far heavier recent military losses.
I'm all for peace but france has a huge historical bad streak of it. Compared to the british, france is notorious at using war rape as a tool of repression (similar to belgians and dutch). They never even gave an ounce of concessions to anyone.

>>1589196
My only position is that people far far away should not be screaming for death and blood anon aside from anything else it is very infantile.
>france is notorious at using war rape as a tool of repression (similar to belgians and dutch).
I do not like this argument of saying one army is more worse for rape than X or Y army, it is used at every enemy army one wants to paint as worse than the rest and yet rape is a weapon used in exactly every side of every war, to the point these things, war and rape are completely inseparable.

>>1589248
Your fee-fees have been noted.

>>1589252
<tank retard arrogantly saying completely nothing as usual.
Cool. Thanks.

>>1588807
Nuclear power is already the most expensive energy, Areva is done, EDF is bankrupt. Yes I'm thinking this is just one more nail in the coffin of French nuclear energy, those plants they want to build will stay on paper.

>>1588807

The math is completely wrong though.

In 2022 Niger exported 1895 tonnes of uranium to France (at a value estimated at 135 million US dollars).
https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/NER/year/2022/tradeflow/Exports/partner/ALL/product/261210

The current spot market price of uranium is a bit under 60 dollars per ounce.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/uranium

So that would correspond to 250 million dollars. So *at best* France bought it for twice as cheap, but keep in mind that spot price has increased, and such discounts are not unusual when you have long-term contracts, so there is nothing revolting. If you include foreign aid, France was actually paying more for uranium than if bought at spot price. The idea of having mines in Niger is more for diversification, which is why France also buys from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Canada and Australia.


I have no idea where the Twitter post got those crazy values from. Perhaps they are confusing the price for uranium ore (which is extracted from mines) with the price of enriched uranium concentrate that is produced in Canada.

>>1588807
I mean, the math is so wrong that even the ratios don't work.
The implied exchange rate is inconsistent in the same sentence!

This is literally fake news.

>>1589035
The strategy is simply to wait (and they know it).

France cannot possibly throw the guy they backed under the bus 24 hours after a coup; so they have to protest, etc.

But eventually they will resume relations with (and recognize) this regime as they did with the past 10 regimes in Niger. But first that regime has to demonstrate they can keep power for a bit, in a highly unstable region (Niger is probably one of the most unstable country in the world right, not just with the coup but the various armed groups in every direction…)

>>1587060
>This level of reporting usually only emerges months or years later.

The antics of the Bongos have been known for many, many years, since they've ruled for 50 years.

Some of the French investigation cases against them are now resuming I think (with the assumption that he has now lost diplomatic immunity). They bought tons of properties in Paris, etc. with dodgy funds (likely stolen from the treasury, or corruption).

>>1589248
What because everyone using it we supposed to ignore the fact that they used it for every single colony wars they got into? Are you insane? That's like saying a rapist and a serial rapist that never show any remorse are the same.
Are you one of those capeshit tards with tofu for brains?

>>1589510
If Every army uses rape in every war they get into retard wtf even point in trying to claim the French or the Russians or the Serbs or the Congolese or whatever other example is commonly used are more 'historical bad' for it when rape is an inseparable part of war? What point are you even trying to make?

>>1589260
>>1589513
All you are saying is to do nothing and instead vibrate with righteous indignation.

>>1589515
What are you talking about you moron I am saying just watch what the actual governments in charge do with interest, not demand they immediately abandon their strategies and ??? without hesitation proceed to kill all the French (for …idk some vague feelings that revolve around 'justice' and ressentiment?), like a giga autist…
Grow the fuck up jesus fucking Christ. Damn.

>>1589391
The problem with the world bank stats is that it's the fucking world bank. The same fucking assholes that think the world is getting richer even though most results from poverty reduction came from china. The same org that basically lied its way into getting the credit for Vietnam's doi moi. They get the numbers of uranium sale from the corporations operating in niger, which fyi is not the most trusted sources.
https://politicsofpoverty.oxfamamerica.org/david-vs-goliath-in-the-worlds-poorest-country/
>Between 2004 and 2012, global uranium prices tripled. Understandably, the government of Niger is seeking to increase its share of profits from its uranium reserves as it negotiates new production contracts with Areva. (The current 10-year deal expired on December 31st.) The government is said to be asking for an increase from 5% to 12% in royalties collected from Areva.
>Not surprisingly, Areva has pushed back – hard. The company claims that 85% of the profits from uranium go to the Nigerien government. An Areva company spokesman told Le Monde that “Two uranium mines alone can’t finance the development of 17 million people.”
<“It’s not down to a company to choose its own tax regime,” said Ali Idrissa, coordinator of ROTAB at a recent protest in front of Areva’s offices in Niamey. Oxfam France and ROTAB have launched a global petition drive calling on Areva to stop pressuring Niger into giving the company excessive tax breaks.
Plus their numbers probably came from extrapolation of this DW article:
https://www.dw.com/en/does-europe-need-nigers-uranium/a-66711717
>When it took power, the junta ordered a halt to uranium exports and later gave the French envoy 48 hours to leave. Ambassador Sylvain Itte, however, has stayed on in Niamey despite the expulsion. The government of President Emmanuel Macron doesn't want to give up its influence or supply of raw materials, but there is little tolerance in Niger.

>"Everyone in Niger feels this partnership is very unequal," said Mahaman Laouan Gaya, a former Nigerien energy minister and the Organization of African Petroleum Producers (APPO) secretary general until 2020.

>In an email to DW, Gaya cited what he said were significant inconsistencies. Niger, he wrote, exported uranium worth €3.5 billion ($3.8 billion) to France in 2010 but received only €459 million in return.
BUT MUH AIDS
Seriously kill yourself
https://www.africaw.com/how-western-foreign-aid-destroys-africa
https://apnews.com/article/76066dd02884b8298d005a005b1d44ea
Like just fucking shoot yourself you piece of shit fuck
There's literally no oversight to where these "aids" went. It could be a new mcmansion for another corrupt EU stooge. This has been so fucking bad US media started reporting on it.

>>1589513
Uh everyone do everything because muh moral subjectivism. You honestly think random rapes and systemic rapes are the same. Do you think that systemic racism and a few black dudes calling you a cracker is the same? We are talking about rape as a tool to subjugate colonial people, not just one or two peverts.
https://www.newarab.com/analysis/frances-colonial-legacy-algeria-rape-weapon-war

>>1589398
>The antics of the Bongos have been known for many, many years, since they've ruled for 50 years.
Antics. It takes blood and violence to stay in power for 50 years, and a bloody and ruthless colonial master to facilitate it. That's what's involved anon - murder and mass violence beyond our understanding. Not antics. Reporting with the reach of the Grayzone, currently read by everyone in the US media sphere, usually emerges in the Guardian or something a few years after the conflict, when the situation has been controlled by the west. Reporting like this, with wide reach, emerging while the situation is extremely hot, in the middle of a sudden geopolitical realignment, is explosive. It's the timing and the timeliness anon.
>Some of the French investigation cases against them are now resuming I think (with the assumption that he has now lost diplomatic immunity). They bought tons of properties in Paris, etc. with dodgy funds (likely stolen from the treasury, or corruption)
Who do you think is conducting the sideshow of French investigations against Bongo? The same fucking French establishment that facilitated the property transactions in Paris, the corruption, and 50 years of blood in Gabon. People ITT talking about their feels, antics and how maybe the French weren't so bad. It's colonialism over a 50 year period, it's bathed in blood and it's on the hands of the colonial masters.

>>1589557
But have you considered… both sides bad?

>>1589557
It was Libération types who did the scandal about the luxury flats in Paris that is now under investigation in France, and it was anti-corruption orgs that did the scandal including ELF and BNP Paribas that is under investigation.
Do not make the mistake the borgeosie do not have competing interests anon!

>>1589617
>Greek governement and KKE both bad!!
t. grayzone

>>1589628
>AMLO fanboy is m
Damn thst really is just sad and pathetic lmao

>>1589628
>>1589632
Sorry glowies; BenNorton and Grayzone are /leftypol/ approved sources.

>>1589638
>trying to fake a site wide consensus
>trying to fake a site wide consensus About a 'journalist' actively batting for an arch-neoliberal
<calling anyone else glows
Lol.

>>1589647
>AMLO
>neoliberal
you're father to the right than fucking Jacobin kill yourself

<video
3rd day of protests against French absd and military.
Funni ECOWAS cope, French cope and Nafoid commenter cope.

>>1589703
Tbh I trust the man. His degree is in Geology and that's just so fucking boring I can only assume genuine intent. The power seeking man does not study rocks and dirt.

>>1589703
>Apollinaire Joachim Kyélem de Tambèla
<, the Burkinabè prime minister traveled to Nicaragua to celebrate the 44th anniversary of the Sandinista Revolution.
Sounds like a good guy. I know all eyes are on Traoré but can you link me to anything more about this Minister anon?

>>1589755
>completely btfoing the respect and dignity of a literally who goat
WTF I hate pan africanists now.

>>1589753
The Homeland or Death: Accomplishments of the Traoré Government in Burkina Faso
<Who is Prime Minister Apollinaire Joachim Kyélem de Tambèla?

Burkina Faso cheered and celebrated at the news of Apollinaire Joachim Kyélem de Tambèla’s appointment to office as prime minister on October 21st, 2022. While there are many new faces and figures in Burkinabé politics right now, Kyélem de Tambèla is a familiar face to many Burkinabé who have known him for decades. In other circumstances this label may be given out too freely but, Kyélem de Tambèla has rightfully earned the title of Sankarist as demonstrated by his own background.

As a student in France in the 1980s, Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla founded the Committee for the Defense of the Revolution (CDR) in Nice, Côte-d’Azur to defend and financially support the revolutionary struggle waged by Sankara and the Burkinabé masses. During this period, he also organized with leftwing groups: The National Union of Students of France (National Union of Students (UNEF) and the Union of Communist Students (UEC).

As an author, lawyer, and academic his magnum opus is Thomas SANKARA et la Revolution au Burkina Faso: Une Expérience de Développement Autocentré a 500-page book in which he details the history and philosophy of the Burkinabé Revolution. He cites Thoms Sankara, Kwame Nkrumah, Cheikh Anta Diop, Frantz Fanon, George Padmore, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Eduardo Galeano, and Samir Amin among others.

<President Traoré and Ministers Decrease Their Salaries
Shortly after his appointment, one of Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambela’s first actions was to call for a lowering of the President’s and various ministers’ salaries. He famously declared, “I have already said that Burkina Faso cannot be developed outside the line drawn by Thomas Sankara.”

While former president, Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba increased his salary and those of the ministers during his short term in office, the current President Ibrahim Traoré has opted out of any presidential salary. Instead, Traoré has decided to keep the same salary that he had as a military captain in order to “show this spirit of sacrifice which must inhabit each Burkinabé in the current situation of our country.”

Meanwhile, during the month of November, the ministers gave up 50% of their salaries to the National Solidarity Fund which goes to help disadvantaged Burkinabe, especially internally displaced people.

<À Bas la FrançAfrique: Leaving the Western Camp
As all of this was unfolding, the main question on everyone’s mind was whether or not the government would finally fulfill the desire of the masses by following in Mali’s footsteps and abandoning the French pré carré (backyard). The courageous actions of the Assimi Goïta administration in Mali completely transformed the atmosphere of the Sahel and the people across the sub-region have become tireless upon seeing the new possibility that has emerged with Mali’s escape from the western camp.

In early December, we saw the first clues as to the direction of this new administration. On December 3rd, 2022 a government communiqué announced the suspension of French-state-sponsored media Radio France International (RFI) until further notice. RFI along with French- state-sponsored media France 24 has similarly been banned in Mali since March 17th, 2022. France 24 would also run into trouble with the Traoré administration in Burkina Faso. On January 23rd, 2023, a correspondent from France 24 was summoned before the Council of Superior Communication (CSC). The outcome of this convocation and the long-term relationship between the administration and the popular French media outlet remains to be seen.

In the meantime, the administration has provided a definitive response to the questions raised by the masses through two key actions: the demand for the departure of the ambassador to Burkina Faso, Luc Hallade, and the expulsion of the French troops by the end of February. On January 2nd, 2023, Minister of Communication Jean-Emmanuel Ouedraogo confirmed that the government of Burkina Faso demanded the departure of French ambassador Luc Hallade. While not an end to a diplomatic relationship with France, the call signaled a changing order which was confirmed by the end of the month.

After over a year of mass mobilizations and several years of grassroots struggle, the much-awaited moment finally came. On January 18th, 2023 it was officially confirmed that the Traoré government had given the French troops one month to evacuate from Burkina Faso, ending the military agreement signed between Burkina Faso and France in 2018. On February 20th, 2023 it was confirmed that the French troops had evacuated Burkina Faso.

<Living in a Multipolar World

The people of Burkina Faso are well aware that the world is rapidly changing. While collaboration with western countries such as the United States, Canada, and states within the European Union has long been seen as the only option on the table, new options are emerging in an increasingly multipolar world. Various grassroots Pan-African organizations in Burkina Faso have been calling for a closer relationship with Russia, an emerging world power that, unlike France, does not have a history of covert regime change operations or monetary and economic domination in Africa.

On December 7th, 2022, Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla visited Russia to meet with officials. During an interview with RT, Kyélem de Tambèla stated that Burkina Faso would like to ally with Russia in the fight against terrorism and would also like a stronger relationship with Russia in other areas such as trade, culture, transport, and health. In his words, “We would like Russia to take its rightful place as a great nation in my country because there is an experience of Russia and we would like it to share that with us,”

In a similar vein, Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla met with Iranian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ali Bagheri on January 20th, 2023 during his visit to Ouagadougou. The two ministers discussed the various ways in which their countries could strengthen their relationship. They agreed to form a joint Iran-Burkina Faso commission with a session in Ouagadougou in the near future. Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla was also invited to visit Tehran. He furthermore proposed the creation of an airline between Tehran and Ouagadougou, which would make the capital of Burkina Faso, a sub-regional hub for Air Iran. While much of the conversation revolved around military collaboration, Minister Bagheri also stated, “Our two countries have the firm will to strengthen their relations in various fields, more particularly in the economic, political, and health fields. In the near future, the new ambassador of the Republic of Iran will move to Ouagadougou. Also, Burkina Faso has decided to reopen its embassy in Tehran.”

<Looking up to Sankara, Sékou Touré, and Modibo Keïta: Towards the Pan-African Federation

Finally and perhaps most importantly, the direction of the new administration in Burkina Faso can be measured by its adamant support for the creation of a federation of African states. “The United States of Africa” is a term heard all over the streets of Ouagadougou these days and Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla is convinced by the vision.

At the beginning of February, Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla met with the President of Mali Assimi Goïta, and other Malian authorities to express his people’s desire for an African federation. He stated, “We are considering a Federation today. This is our short or medium-term objective. We need everyone’s support in this sense because as long as we remain isolated, we are fragile. The Mali-Burkina Faso Federation will constitute a much more decisive striking power.” To clarify his use of the term federation, he cited the example of the Mali Federation during which Mali, Senegal, Burkina Faso, and Benin attempted to unite into a single country in the late 1950s.

On February 9th, Malian Minister of Foreign Affairs Abdoulaye Diop and Guinean Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Morissanda Kouyaté met with Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla in Ouagadougou. Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambèla insisted upon a Burkina Faso-Mali- Guinea Federation drawing from the revolutions waged under the leadership of Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso), Modibo Keïta (Mali), and Ahmed Sékou Touré (Guinea). In his words, “Not long ago, Ibrahim Cissé walked from Bamako to Ouagadougou to call for the federation. We must measure the determination of this Malian citizen. Are we going to let this go unheeded? We must become aware and join together to realize the dream of our people.” Ibrahim Cissé is an African patriot who walked from Mali to Burkina Faso’s capital on foot over the course of three weeks covering 822.2 kilometers or 510 miles to express support for an African federation. The three ministers also discussed the construction of an Ouagadougou-Bamako-Conakry railroad to facilitate political integration.

The Pan African Film and Television Festival of Ouagadougou (FESPACO), Burkina Faso’s most internationally important cultural festival, demonstrated the strengthening of the Burkina Faso-Mali alliance. Mali was selected as the country of honor this year and Prime Abdoulaye Maïga was once again in Burkina Faso between February 24-26th. Accompanied by the Malian delegation, Prime Minister Kyélem de Tambela of Burkina announced before the press that the intention of the Malian and Burkinabé transition governments is to lay the groundwork for the creation of a Mali-Burkina Faso federation that could not be dismantled by future political administrations. It was stated that both the Malian and Burkinabé heads of state were in agreement and working on the initial steps in the creation of such a federation.

Before leaving Burkina Faso, Prime Minister Abdoulaye Maïga co-signed a communiqué with Prime Minister Kyélem announcing the creation of a bilateral consultation framework that would be used to collaborate on security issues, the struggle against the sanctions imposed upon both countries, and the creation of a Mali-Burkina Faso federation.

In the meantime, the Burkinabe Minister of Energy, Mines, and Quarries met with the Malian Minister of Mines, Energy, and Water to begin the discussion of a shared electrical connection to help industrialize both countries as well as collaboration to protect their mineral resources.

<May Ancestor Thomas Sankara Finally Rest in Peace

In the short time that President Ibrahim Traoré has been in power, he and his cabinet have demonstrated profound admiration for Thomas Sankara. Sankara, along with the 12 other revolutionaries that were assassinated alongside him, was given proper burials at the Thomas Sankara memorial site on February 23rd, 2023. According to Mousbilla Sankara, Thomas Sankara’s uncle, “[This burial is] the first time I’ve seen Catholics, Protestants, and Muslims perform the same ceremony for corpses. It means that it is a sign of union.” The intimate event was reserved for close family members and friends of Sankara but a large public event is planned for October 15th, 2023, the anniversary of Sankara’s assassination. Sankara’s body had been extracted from his modest makeshift tombstone eight years ago for legal reasons. Now he rests in an appropriate location where Burkinabé, Africans, and people around the world can pay him respect.

The only true justice for Thomas Sankara is revolution. Nothing short of revolution can serve as a substitute or reparation for the crimes committed against Sankara and Africa. The time has come for Africans everywhere to organize to defend the struggle for sovereignty waged by Burkina Faso and Mali in opposition to neo-colonialism. Pan-Africanism must move beyond words and towards actions of concrete support for states that are adopting Pan-African praxis as national policies.

La Patrie ou la mort…

France currently negotiating the departure of its troupes from Niger.

>>1589748
i trust him based on everything so far, but you gotta think a little harder if you think a west african could only concievably study the ground for innocent reasons lol

>>1590598
This is Revolution podcast last ep has Pascal Robert interviewing Milton Allimadi about the African revolts. Robert is connected to Black Agenda Report afaik.

>>1589814
Everything I have read about de Tambèla but particularly; his hard Sankaraist line, his desire to merge with Mali and other West African states tocreate a larger federation and eventually one country, and his popularity being an already well known public figure within television and radio and for his love of Lenin. Has led me to the opinion that this man will not last. with power he will be at worst killed at best exiled almost certainly.
>>1591202
Can you give us a link or rip/upload (probably better but with a link one of us can do that).

>>1591347
holy shit the man even look like lenin

>>1591347
>Can you give us a link or rip/upload (probably better but with a link one of us can do that).
I heard it at a friend's place, is it on the podcast feed?

>>1592419
>>1591202
>This is Revolution podcast last ep has Pascal Robert interviewing Milton Allimadi
Is it this one? Idk what the podcast feed is i am not a podcast person
https://chartable.com/podcasts/this-is-revolution-podcast/episodes/149672711-tir-presents-the-mau-mau-hour-w-pascal-robert-africa-in-revolt-ft-milton-allimadi

Sorry for the double post but I have not been paying close attention the last 2 days and now the US has pulled non-essential personnel from Niger and moving troops internally whilst French, German, Nigerian and US envoys have been given an 58 hour ultimatum to leave, ECOWAS prepares a ''standby mission' and troops from Mali and Burkina Faso yesterday sent to Niger.
WTF is going on comrade-anons, Is it boiling to the top?

>>1593046
Sounds like tensions are high.
I don't see the west withdrawing as a sign that ecowas will attack.

>>1593046
This is deeply concerning

https://youtu.be/99WT3I5xYpE
Revolutionary Blackout on Gabon live now

The US is moving "assets" from their base in the capital that politicians didn't know about to their base 700km away that politicians don't know about. These are bases reported to be among the most costly among the hundreds of US bases globally. They are moving their assets away from the population of the country that they occupy because the population has become activated and the world is now watching.

>>1593046
source?

>>1593522
<US has pulled non-essential personnel from Niger and moving troops internally
>source?
nta A US state dept spokesperson

>>1593067
>This is deeply concerning
As far as the americans go they said today they are perhaps pulling all their troops out in the next few weeks now, so who tf knows what's going on tbf anon.
>>1593522
>source?
Literally just the news feed on duckduckgo.com or google.
>>1593493
>base in the capital that politicians didn't know about
Both bases are well known about. You can even see footage of at least one of them.
Stop lying you disingenuous little faggot.

>>1593585
>>1593585
>Both bases are well known about. You can even see footage of at least one of them.
ok. The US is moving "assets" from their base in the capital that US politicians didn't know about to their base 700km away that US politicians don't know about.

>>1593587
You are actually fucking dumb if you think politicans don't know about two of their larger bases. These bases had large media campaigns, even normies who have never worked in politics know about them.
Look. Just because you didn't know about something why the fuck are you going around pretending nobody else knew. Do you see how this makes less than no sense?

>>1593592
samefag. If you're not aware, after the suspicious death of a US commando in 2017 in Niger, it was a big surprise to US politicians that their country had a military presence there.

>>1593598
Cool. Did you also know that Ronald Regen was just know hearing about Iran-CONTRA when the press phoned him for comment?
If you're also not aware water gate was also a big surprise until the leaks!!
you simpleton stop believing them when they say they didn't know something.
US Politicians certainly know about bases 101 and 201.

>>1593606
ok, you're right, it needs rewriting
>The US is moving "assets" from their base in the capital that US politicians claimed not to know about to their base 700km away that US politicians will claim not to know about.

>>1593640
> US politicians making a press report through the white house they are moving their troops from base 101 to 201
>but they will actually claim to not know about said bases
<despite the press release
can you go and schizo up another thread please.

>>1593650
You're getting confused comrade, stay on message. This is the message you replied to with the edits we agreed on.
>The US is moving "assets" from their base in the capital that US politicians claimed not to know about to their base 700km away that US politicians will claim not to know about. These are bases reported to be among the most costly among the hundreds of US bases globally. They are moving their assets away from the population of the country that they occupy because the population has become activated and the world is now watching.

3 intelligence officers arrested after a plot for attempted coup in BF:
Three soldiers in Burkina Faso have been arrested and charged with plotting against the ruling junta, the country's military prosecutor said on Friday.

Investigators last month received a tipoff about "soldiers and former soldiers working in intelligence" who were scouting out the homes and other locations used by key figures in the junta, including strongman Captain Ibrahim Traore, he said in a statement.

Their goal was to "destabilise… the transition", it said, referring to a term used to describe interim military rule before promised elections.

Investigations led to the arrest of the three, who have been ordered detained by an examining magistrate.

They have been charged with involvement in a "military plot, breach of military orders, plotting against state security, criminal association and endangerment", military prosecutor Major Alphonse Zorma said in the statement.

The three were named as Warrant Officer Windinmalegde Kabore; Sergeant Brice Ismael Ramde; and former corporal Sami Dah, who had previously been convicted in a plot against the state in 2015.

"(They) unequivocally admitted the facts," said Zorma.

The impoverished Sahel state is one of Africa's most turbulent countries, enjoying few periods of stability since gaining independence from France in 1960 as the Republic of Upper Volta.

Last year, it experienced two coups, both of them fuelled by anger within the military over the toll from a long-running jihadist insurgency.

Traore took power on September 30, 2022, at the age of just 34, making him the world's youngest leader outside of royalty.

He toppled Colonel Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba, who little more than eight months earlier had ousted Burkina's elected president, Roch Marc Christian Kabore.

Shortly after Traore's takeover, military prosecutors in December said there had been an attempt to "destabilise state institutions".

Those behind it, they said, were civilians and a lieutenant-colonel named Emmanuel Zoungrana.

More than 16,000 civilians, troops and police in Burkina Faso have died since jihadists in neighbouring Mali launched their campaign in 2015, according to an NGO monitor called the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED).

More than two million people have been forced to flee their homes, creating one of Africa's worst internal displacement crises.

Traore has promised a return to democracy with presidential elections by July 2024.
<https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/burkina-arrests-three-soldiers-over-155409369.html

Did anyone else see the speech of Bassolma Bazie, The Minister of Civil Service, Burkina Faso at the UN? (vidrel)
Thoughts?
Speaker: Bazie is the former of Sec-General of CGT-B (Confédération générale du travail du Burkina) (General Confederation of Labour of Burkina), a somewhat radical Labour Union. Which, i find, personally quite interesting as theC CGT-B and the Union movement tends to under rules condemn coups, which could say something about his position as an olive branch to the Union Movement.

I don't know where the UN transcripts get posted, would appreciate if someone could share.

honestly sad the literally nothing terminally online and war spectacle shit people would rather argue about here all day instead of actually discussing interesting happenings in the world.

>>1606317
Interesting post.
>I don't know where the UN transcripts get posted, would appreciate if someone could share.
Same. I spent some time searching https://research.un.org/en/docs/find/meetings for keywords from your post but I got nothing later than 2021

>>1606887
https://media.un.org/en/asset/k1y/k1yda7i1hp
Here is the official link, sorry i should have lead with that though.
Maybe they just don't transcribe some things, because i had another look and still do not see anything, or maybe if so it is uploaded at a later date? idk.
>Interesting post.
I'm glad someone is interested in the very interesting changes going on in Africa, at least. :)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66907517
<Niger coup: Macron says France to withdraw troops and ambassador
>President Emmanuel Macron has said France will withdraw its ambassador and end all military co-operation with Niger following a coup.
>"France has decided to withdraw its ambassador. In the next hours our ambassador and several diplomats will return to France," Mr Macron said.
total frog defeat

>>1607759
here's hoping, comrades.

>>1607759
what about the yankee military base tho

>>1607762
What about it? It's still there, just like the French uranium mine, whose owners (French company Orano) have announced they are continuing their plan to invest into an extension of a new mine.

It's unfortunate that your leftist mindsets prevent you from understanding how the world actually works. You think "Muh modern-day Thomas Sankaras are now ruling Niger, they will expel every single imperialist and extract the uranium themselves".

Here is the actual reality: the new rulers will continue to let competent people exploit their resources and defend their territory while collecting a rent from that. You're welcome for the free lesson on economics and human behavior.

>>1608042
I'm French.
But 99% of the communists on this board are American so I don't see your point.

And actually you know what?
This is not even a /pol/yp talking point: the new rulers of Niger are smart (probably autism score around 110). And that's precisely because they're smart that they will keep the good deals (you read that right: good deals) they are getting out of the US military and the French uranium mining.

You can argue all you want but you will see that this is the reality going forward.

>>1607815
>>1608481
>snooty as fuck
>total asshole
Yeah, you are fucking /pol/ frog.
>human behavior
That ain't human behavior, that's just late stage capitalism barely anything human about it.
>>1608485
>they're smart that they will keep the good deals (you read that right: good deals) they are getting out of the US military and the French uranium mining.
If they do that they are the biggest idiots to exist, the people of Niger themselves will make them realize that right before they break out le guillotine.

>>1608481
>I'm French.
we could tell by the tears

>>1608504
>the people of Niger themselves

The people of Niger themselves are the ones who get to share the good deals offered by the US military and French industry.

You are just projecting on this situation something that is simply not true ("le evil white man oppressing le heroic black worker, liberated by Thomas Sankara spiritual sons").

Reality: US military and French industry gave shit tons of cash to Nigerien authorities to have access respectively to land for an airfield and underground for uranium mine.

The reason the President was deposed is because he is from a super minority in the country (Arab, less than 1% of Niger). And while people like you have some old 20th century obsessions with the west, imperialism, colonialism, etc. you don't realize that most of the wealth from Niger (gold) was actually extracted towards Arab countries, and that's much more likely a reason for the coup.

But again you don't have to believe. Just keep watching the situation. Maybe I'm wrong, I cannot predict the future with 100%, but I'm pretty sure the French uranium mining will keep going exactly as is, just like the US military base. For the Nigerien authorities this is basically a free source of cash. Without the US military base there would be absolutely nothing but just some more desert there, and same for the uranium mines.

>>1608504
>snooty as fuck
>total asshole
>Yeah, you are fucking /pol/ frog.
He's just French. Stop disrespecting their culture.

>>1609593
really depends on where that money goes.
if the vast majority of the money goes into ruling class corruption then things won't change, if it actually gets invested in the country itself then it might.

>>1608505
Tears for what?
As a French nationalist I'm glad we are taking our troops out of Africa. Should have happened a long time ago and quite frankly we need to bring back the rest (we've got some left in Djibouti and a few other places).

We should dismantle the very little that remains of Francafrique. I don't give a shit about Omar Bongo and his family. Seize all his buildings in Paris for all I care.

And let's go beyond that: we should send back every fucking single piece of African "art" that we supposedly stole (in reality: those are artifacts traded for a bunch of cigarettes and a bottle of whisky) exactly where they belong, where they will promptly disappear once people realize that they only have value because they are in French museums, but otherwise look like every other trinket sold to tourists in markets.

And let's go beyond that: let's have completely fair trade with Africa. We sell shit to them at current market price and buy shit from them at current market prices. This goes without saying, but no more foreign aid either. Africans are adults who should be in charge of their own countries without requiring handouts.

Oh, and we should also unilaterally dismantle the CFA franc. They will hate us for that, it will be their loss and their currencies will collapse because they will now follow the market price of commodities like bananas and cocoa beans, but what do I care.

So you have the situation completely wrong. I am much more in favor of African liberation than you are. All the lefties I talk to have the neo-colonialist mentality that Africans are big children who should be helped through NGOs, foreign aid, etc.

>>1609600
Depends.
But generally in the case of NGOs, most of the money is consumed by the NGO itself, then the rulers, and perhaps 1% actually goes to the people who are supposed to be helped.

Liberal foreign "aid" is all about taking money from poor people in rich countries to give to rich people in poor countries.

>>1609604
>No, i'm not salty at all. Btw all these fucking Africans will SUFFER once they abandon benevolent French hands
Typical imperialist handwringing. Same shit Russians said but former USSR (without Russia, there is only chaos etc etc). The Nigerien people, or even people in general does not benefit from these security anti-terror measures or resource extraction done by foreigners because most of it are rent extraction rather than active production/manufacturing that transforms local economy. Nigeriens have a right to throw out French influence to renegotiate the terms of extraction with different powers so it doesn't end up as yet another resource leeching that benefits an oligarchic clique that exists in Niger pre-coup
>now follow the market price of commodities like bananas and cocoa bean
Much more important than these are oil and uranium, that of course France would not want to buy at market price and is the reason why many French newspapers, owned partly by mining magnates is railing against the collapse of Francafrique

>>1609604
>As a French nationalist I'm glad we are taking our troops out of Africa
"taking out our troops" is a cute way to cope with being KICKED OUT

>>1609593
>The reason the President was deposed is because he is from a super minority in the country (Arab, less than 1% of Niger). And while people like you have some old 20th century obsessions with the west, imperialism, colonialism, etc. you don't realize that most of the wealth from Niger (gold) was actually extracted towards Arab countries,
There's some truth in this. The former Nigerien president came from the same Arabic confederation with the Sudanese RSF leader Hemedti who also monopolized gold mines and gold trade in Darfur. Unsurprisinhly, he also deployed Nigerien soldiers to support the RSF rebels in Sudan which likely contributed to the coup. There is an entire network of Arab gold rentiers spread across the Sub-Saharan

>>1609619
>that of course France would not want to buy at market price

Yeah our economy will collapse overnight if we don't buy bananas at their fair price.

>>1609620

The troops were not kicked by military action; the Nigerien authorities asked France to have them leave (and Macron eventually agreed).
The troops could have stayed there forever, but they served no purpose anyway. They should have never been there in the first place.

France used to understand Africa and Africans, but for the past few years (20 years or so; certainly after Chirac), we've been chasing ghosts in Africa, trying to fight so-called Islamic terrorism without understanding it (and without understanding that in reality it's not always actually Islamic terrorism in the first place). So better leave than lose our best soldiers fighting this nonsense.

I don't know if that's true but there was speculation that certain senior elements of French intelligence (DGSE or whatever it's called now) preferred to have the new guys in power, because they are actually more aligned with French interests. It's a plausible theory. I think the new guys wanted to sever the exploitation of gold by Arabs but are still keen to have French companies exploit uranium, and the assessment is probably that they will do a better job securing the country (and thus those mines) from outside raiders and "terrorists".
Apparently Macron was fuming at the DGSE for not warning him about this coup, so I suspect there might be some truth to that. Keep in mind that France has exploited uranium in Niger for more than 50 years and under something like 10 different regimes. All recognized that it's in their interest to continue this relationship. We do place a premium on Niger-sourced uranium because it allows to diversify a bit from first or second world uranium (Canada, Australia and Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan). While uranium from Niger was not the biggest share of our uranium, it's a way to diversify our suppliers and drive a better bargain with the other ones. Ultimately, keep in mind that raw uranium price is something like 5% (perhaps less) of nuclear energy cost. People who think it's super strategic have just not done the math. Nuclear power cost is largely driven by the cost of fixed infrastructure (the stations themselves, and the entire recycling cycle, etc.) and even when it comes to nuclear fuel, most of the cost comes from purification and enrichment, which is definitely not done in Niger.

French military bases in West Africa, former (gray) and current (black).

>>1610262
Hopefully we get out of those, and Djibouti too.

But Macron absolutely loves black people (especially black men), and considering how paternalistic he already is with French people, you have no idea how he is with Africans. So he will want to keep sending them money and also "defend" them from evil Jihadis with our military (despite the fact they are explicitly asking us to get out of the way).

>>1610802
Djibouti is not going in the foreseeable future, the bases are one of the main way for the state to make money and be stable. Furthermore those are meant to secure the maritime trade routes and everyone agrees on that besides terrorist groups and pirates. And in addition to France, Djibouti has bases from the US, China, Great Britain, Japan and Saudi Arabia with a lot of other countries having a small military presence. It's basically military con country from rich nations.

>>1610802
>But Macron absolutely loves black people (especially black men)
You sure gottem now anon. What an utterly French series of posts defending a colonial project as only the French can.

>>1610262
Soon they will all be gone

>>1609593
>The people of Niger themselves are the ones who get to share the good deals offered by the US military and French industry.
No they do not. Any small "benefit" they get from this imperialist system is outweighed completely by the subjugation that the Nigerien working class to the comprador bourgeoise that intentionally stunts the country's development.
>"le evil white man oppressing le heroic black worker, liberated by Thomas Sankara spiritual sons"
That is bullshit, I ain't some multipolarity dipshit who thinks these coup governments are in anyway like that. It is not about race or even country, but the the economic mode of production we are currently in; capitalism and with it imperialism. The fact is that for these countries they will always be under threat of foreign imperialism (whether by America, the EU, China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, and Russia). Only total rejection of the capitalist system itself and the development of socialism can lead to the liberation of these peoples.
>Reality: US military and French industry gave shit tons of cash to Nigerien authorities to have access respectively to land for an airfield and underground for uranium mine.
<Nigerien authorities
^key word, western industry giving money to the comprador bourgeoisie. The workers never see this money and much of it is not used for the development of the country in any meaningful way. The workers are forced to work and live in poverty as the capitalist class in America and France get rich off their country's wealth and resources.

>And while people like you have some old 20th century obsessions with the west, imperialism, colonialism, etc. you don't realize that most of the wealth from Niger (gold) was actually extracted towards Arab countries, and that's much more likely a reason for the coup.
I don't give a shit about "west" or "east" dichotomy frog, imperialism is a global system and is still going on. You think you had a "gothca" with the Arab countries thing, but its not. I'm not surprised about that and it makes a good amount of sense given the current state of the world. Any country that is at that level of capitalism will engage in imperialism be it Arab, Asian, or American etc.

>Without the US military base there would be absolutely nothing but just some more desert there, and same for the uranium mines.
There was never "nothing" there, there were people there just as there are people there now. The difference is that there is a military base used to protect the interests of foreign capitalists. The uranium was always there predating even human history. The only difference is that now the energy and wealth that resource can generate should be used for the betterment of that nation and its people's while under the control of those who work it. Not for the wealth of the global capitalist class. Eat shit frog.

>>1610885

I'm defending a colonial project by… *check notes*… advocating for France to completely evacuate Africa as soon as possible.

>>1611050
/leftypol/ users are to dumb to not bite your shitty reactionary bait even though they have zero interest in the actual topic and want to argue with a reactionary, so I am asking you, can you please just fuck off back to /pol/ and take them with you?

>>1609730
informative post, thanks anon