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 No.1600107[View All]

why are argentinians so stupid? they have been fucked over by the IMF many times and now they are about to elect a neoliberal clown into the president office? what's their end game exactly?
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 No.1600523

>>1600503
>It was unorganized and doomed
fuck, hopefully we can make a 2nd intentona as soon as possible without the mistakes of the 1st one, I'll be part of it.
>>1600506
vargas was literally anticommunist, unlike lula who is pro-communist.

 No.1600527

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>>1600496
>intentona comunista
levante* comunista, "intentona" is a pejorative anti-communist label to describe the event
>fuck vargas
ele foi o melhor líder que o brasil já teve, com o lula em um segundo colocado distante
>>1600523
>vargas was literally anticommunist
still better than any other brazilian presidential figure you can name
>unlike lula who is pro-communist
lula is a social democrat who flirts with socialist rhetoric to defang the labor movement and get more votes

 No.1600555

>>1600512
It depends on the region. Gauchos love Vargas because he was born in Rio Grande do Sul, while paulistas hate him because he crushed the Constitutional Revolution.

 No.1600556

>>1600527
>intentona" is a pejorative anti-communist label
oh didn't know that, oops
>ele foi o melhor líder que o brasil já teve
o cara literalmente tankou uma revolução(mesmo q desorganizada), imagine (por um segundo) se tivesse dado certo a revolução, a gente ia ser uma outra URSS
>still better than any other brazilian presidential figure you can name
unironically Dilma

 No.1600562

>>1600394
Watched the interview, it has subtitles. Boring an "alarmist".

 No.1600565

>>1600527
>lula is a social democrat who flirts with socialist rhetoric to defang the labor movement and get more votes
we should probably be creating a vanguard alternative to PT, so people who are upset about the gobermend join the vanguard

 No.1600577

>>1600565
I think the Brazilian left is afraid of doing any opposition to PT after the 2013 protests got co-opted by the right and eventually lead to Bolsonaro's election.

 No.1600580

>>1600556
>imagine se tivesse dado certo a revolução, a gente ia ser uma outra URSS
só vamos ficar na imaginação mesmo pois além de desorganizada ela não tinha o apoio necessário de setores militares para dar certo, vargas até ofereceu colocar luís carlos prestes como líder das forças armadas em 1930 mas prestes escolheu continuar trabalhando dentro do partido comunista
mesmo esmagando o levante comunista em 35 ele ainda trouxe mais progresso que qualquer outra figura que esteve no poder porém convenhamos que o padrão não é tão difícil de alcançar
>unironically Dilma
0_____0 dorgas, not even once

 No.1600628

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>>1600523
>unlike lula who is pro-communist.

 No.1600688

>>1600628
question:
Why does being a clown work in politics?

 No.1600697

>>1600688 (me)
*political theater, but same same. It's broadcasting to everyone that you are wildly unqualified to actually do anything.

 No.1600700

>>1600697
Because retarded normies see how normal politicians are all malicious and corrupt and think 'haha that guy is funny and not an ivory tower elitist like those other politicians, he clearly has personality :')'

 No.1600742

>>1600142
The vice-president of Milei's party organized visits to former dictator Videla, was (and still is) linked with numerous pro-military groups and she is even the daughter of a Carapintada, which is the denomination for mutineers in the army.
Overall she's a fucking piece of absolute shit, same as this fucker named Milei. So yeah, he would establish a military dictatorship if that's what it would take to further his goals.

 No.1600784

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>>1600688
Why does he look so fucking insane all the time holy shit.

 No.1600837

>>1600700
Nailed it, everyone wants somebody they could "have a beer with" even though they wouldn't dare let their actual drinking buddies dog sit for them let alone take on actual responsibilities. I think that just not following the expected etiquette of politics alone is enough to make them seem charming. Who among us hasn't daydreamed of popping some stuffy monocles out of heads?

 No.1600839

I thought this thread was interesting about milei.

What do you guys think?

 No.1600841

>>1600839
More post about this by this guy

 No.1600856

>>1600839
Yeah, it is an exercise of the obvious distintion between "populism"/trumpists and ancaps/neofeudals(with a sprinkle of the artist formerly known as fascism).

 No.1600879

>>1600688
Yes. Look at Boris and Trump

 No.1600880

>>1600107
Why tf does he look like a leprechaun?

 No.1600907

>>1600880
You are getting desperate.
>>1600856
Suddenly leftism has nothing to do with the sorry state of Latin America. It was all unabridged capitalism the Yankees could only dream about. kek
Also, a reminder that capitalists destroyed slavery and feudalism.

 No.1600915

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>>1600463
deng beetles be like

the guy under whose term RCEP is signed, financial sector is liberalized more each year to make yuan compatible as a reserve currency, more and more free trade agreements are being signed, Hainan, an island roughly the size of Taiwan is being transformed into a world-class free-trade hub is literally Stalin… yeah RIGHT… do you dengbeetles even know what socialism is anymore ?

 No.1600960

>>1600907
Yeah, because Latin America was a paradise before the pink tide.

 No.1600962

>>1600960
It was mostly a feudal shithole which skipped capitalism straight to "scientific socialism". To it's own demise.

 No.1600972

He is yet another Cuckservative

 No.1600976

>>1600915
>do you dengbeetles even know what socialism is anymore?
i do, do you?
if you allocated this effort you put into analyzing a simple meme making fun of western headlines into reading history and political theory you wouldn't be a libertarian/ancap/whatever liberal garbage you are, faggot

 No.1601003

>>1600455
Who gives a fuck if they're progressive? If they are aren't communists than they are reactionary and stand in the way of proleretarian power!

 No.1601059

>>1600962
>>1600907
Didn't you get enough spanking from last thread?

 No.1601192

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>what's their end game exactly?
Mad Max Barter Town with Thunderdome characteristics?

 No.1601240

>>1601059
Why did you make another one? Have something to hide?

 No.1601450

>>1600962
Latin America never had feudalism much less socialism (apart from Cuba) you fucking retard. Stop talking about shit you clearly don't know anything about.

 No.1601478

>>1601003
What an idiotic comment. Emperor Meiji and Kemal Ataturk weren't communists but you're a moron if you think they didn't advance history.

 No.1601480

>>1601192
>Mad Max Barter Town with Thunderdome characteristics?
With the value of their peso they'd probably be better off.

 No.1601488

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>>1600688
What more can you expect from a politician besides entertainment?

 No.1601523

>>1601450
>Latin America never had feudalism
The Hacienda/plantation system is still in living memory though, you could say it was a pre feudal formation the Spanish brought over

 No.1601533

>>1601523
That was mercantilism.

 No.1601537

>>1601533
More like ancient Roman slavery if Mariategui is a reliable source

 No.1601543

>>1601537
There's a line to be drawn between slavery in Ancient Rome and the Atlantic slave trade as part of 16th century Europe's obsession with emulating the Romans, but it was still a very different system.

 No.1601553

>>1600907
>>1600962
You realize Latin America was capitalist for most of its existence and the whole reason these socialist governments were elected in the first place is because of it being literally the most socially unequal region in the world (which directly correlates with the absurd levels of crime), right?

 No.1601754

>>1601480
>With the value of their peso
Joke's on you, one of his signature talking points is abandoning the Peso and adopting the USD

 No.1601840

>>1601450
Your cognitive dissonance will only get worse when I'll tell you that slavery in Latin America was even more atrocious than in the US _because_ - due to religious reasons - the slaves _could not_ be "privately owned" - they were more or less "communally" abused by everybody who felt like it.
Even a total caricature of private ownership like slavery (people cannot be owned as they already own themselves) was alleviating human conditions because an individual "owner" has an obvious incentive to preserve the "market value" of his "property". No such thing in non-market economy where everything is for grabs and wanton destruction is the law of the land.

 No.1601841

>>1601553
At most they had the "capitalism for the top 1%, socialism for the rest of you".
Leftists are "solving" the problem of inequality by dragging down the conditions of the privileged classes to the level of the general population - we acknowledge that every-fucking-one has the same rights that used to restricted to the members of some "aristocracy".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBKXu3Kg4yg

 No.1601845

>>1601840
post reeks of burger exceptionalism
yes, slaves were also privately owned in latin america dipshit

 No.1601854

>>1601845
yawn
>Encomiendas devolved from their original Iberian form into a form of "communal" slavery. In the encomienda, the Spanish Crown granted a person a specified number of natives from a specific community but did not dictate which individuals in the community would have to provide their labour
>There was no connection with land as part of the encomienda as there had been in medieval Spain, instead, in the colonies, encomienda was purely a legal arrangement, and the right could even be held by municipalities
>On the ground, these voices could do little to prevent encomienda becoming, in many cases, a system of extreme forced labour indistinguishable from slavery with the exception that the labourers could not be sold.

 No.1601857

>>1601845
>burger exceptionalism
If anything I am an anglophile you halfwit.

 No.1601873

>>1601854
>burger called out for being retarded
>starts copy and pasting from glowiepedia to make it even more obvious
you dont know shit about latin america

 No.1601881

>>1601873
>glowiepedia
You are half-right here as wiki is known for being a "communally edited" leftist cesspool kek.
But two other citations aren't from wiki. Good luck with your further literacy exercises.

 No.1601960

>>1601840
>>1601854
You only described the encomienda system, which technically wasn't slavery.

There was, however, enslavement of Africans in the pre-capitalist colonial model across the entire Americas, some places with more predominance than others. US style was indeed the harshest of all, followed by Brazil's, as both were profit-oriented with the enslaved being grinded down until expiration.

>people cannot be owned as they already own themselves

Just how dense are you fucking people? You don't own yourself, you are yourself.
Simple as that.

 No.1602468

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>>1600298
>code-word for neoliberalism
LMAO

 No.1602484

>>1601841
>Leftists are "solving" the problem of inequality by dragging down the conditions of the privileged classes
literal neolib talking point, what a fucking moron


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