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 No.1601504

Soviet and communist support for the creation of Israel was a critical break in the spring of the world communist movement, and in some ways led to the downfall of the Soviet Union, because it was the first major policy undermining Leninist principles. Even after 1967 when the socialist bloc cut ties with Israel and started heavily supporting the Palestinian resistance, global communist parties continued to advocate for a two-state solution. The Palestinian revolutionaries who rejected the two-state solution were called the Rejectionist Front. Support for the two-state solution is still prominent among most ML parties today with the exceptions of some parties like the Korean and Portuguese parties. Why are so many MLs, let alone leftists, so afraid to openly call for the total liberation of all of historic Palestine, and the expulsion of all Zionists?

 No.1601521

Not op but the expulsion of Zionist does not mean the expulsion of all Jews from historic Palestine, it means the end of Apartheid

 No.1601536

I don't know any people any more who unironically say two state is best. I think partly this is because there is no chance a fair two state solution will ever occur without a literal police action in Israel or something of the sort. The other major part to it is the relative success of the South African struggle which didn't result in a two state solution either.

 No.1601577

There won’t even be a two state solution, let alone one where palestine takes over the entire region. A lot of ML parties resort to pragmatism over idealism with the Israel-palestine conflict because they have the tendency of not wanting to look wrong or be on the wrong side of history, or something to that effect. Some of it is also because they view a one state palestine solution as antisemitic which tbf it kind of is.

 No.1601613

Realistically, how do you destroy one of the most militarily powerful countries in the world? The Palestinians have tried every form of resistance and it failed. Now that Israel is getting a lot closer to BRICS it’s not like multipolarity is going to free Palestine at all.

Plus, there are 7 million Jews between the river and the sea. Haredi birthrates are higher than Palestinian ones. What happens to all those people? Are they supposed to be deported? To where?

 No.1601617

>>1601536
Whites in South Africa were never more than 17% of the population, making them a pretty clear aristocracy. The number of Israelis and Palestinians is roughly equal making it a completely different ballgame.

 No.1601630

>>1601613
A lot of these communists are antisemites who are afraid of saying the quiet part out loud, which is that they hate Jews and want to see palestinians get revenge on them. Sad as it is to say (for the non-hateful communists), there won’t be a just solution for palestine.

 No.1601638

>>1601630
Because the only solutions they’re willing to accept aren’t realistic or pragmatic. Israelis aren’t going anywhere. Any mass war that breaks out will result in an Israeli victory given their weapons and military training.

 No.1601658

>>1601638
Not to mention palestine would get even more frozen out of the intl community and end up in North Korean tier purgatory, which would spell its end.

 No.1601673

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weekly asshurt ziochinlet thread
your apartheid shithole is going down with america's empire, sorry but it's just how things are developing
>>1601613
>Israel is getting a lot closer to BRICS
no >>>/leftypol/1600920
it's literally the opposite, isnotreal's enemies are being strengthened while countries that have good ties with them like russia and china are distancing themselves as they move closer to iran, syria, saudi arabia etc
>>1601630
>anti-zionism = anti-semitism
no, just like anti-nazism is not "racism against whites", kill yourself faggot

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 No.1601697

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>>1601686
>>denying the fact that Israel is itching closer to Russia, China and BRICS
interesting claim, let's see…
<isnotreal is literally sending weapons to ukraine
<iran and saudi arabia joined brics
<saudi arabia suspended recognition talks with isnotreal until they implement resolution 242
<russia getting closer to iran and syria
<china is negotiating a nuclear deal with saudi arabia
<china supports palestinian statehood and enforcement of the 1967 borders
meanwhile shitsrael will continue eating dirt because they're a glorified military base for the americans
stay mad zionist whore, your shithole is sinking with america

 No.1601705

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>>1601699
>maintains good diplomatic policy with isnotreal and their burger masters while at the same time supporting the settlers being kicked out
based china
i hope they do continue to have talks with the zionists to create a rift between them and america, if they manage to alienate the americans away israel will have literally no one left to back it

 No.1601719

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>>1601707
>they don’t actually support palestine
except they literally do
they support palestinian statehood, a return to the 1967 borders and their UN full membership bid
>with Russia and China having stronger diplomacy with Israel
repeating it doesn't make it true retard
the trend we're seeing is israel losing opportunities to carve their space out in this bloc by being the disgusting genocidal zionist rats they are: >>1601697 >>1601673
they literally torpedoed the recognition talks with saudi arabia recently (and by extension the nuclear plant deal with america) by refusing to reel in the most extreme factions in their government that refused to give even the smallest concessions to the palestinians, so now saudi arabia is back to demanding resolution 242 before they even think about it again
>it’s only a matter of time before the palestinian struggle becomes too toxic for anyone to associate with
kek this delusional retard thinks anyone cares about what is "toxic" to "associate with" within the west
no one cares if your burger/euroid media pumps out zionist propaganda, people in the global south don't give a shit
>It’s a shame really but what can you do other than adjust? This is the “multipolarity” that ziggers on this board are calling for
lazy concern trolling
again, just claiming israel is "getting closer to brics" doesn't make it true, plus you've been presented with evidence that indicates otherwise

YOUR SETTLER COLONIAL APARTHEID STATE WILL SINK WITH AMERICA'S DECLINE, COPE ZIONIST BITCH

 No.1601723

>>1601720
you should go back to europe, you don't belong in palestine

 No.1601962

>>1601720
>waaah you can't post alunya!!111!!!!
stay mad, zioshitter

 No.1602254

>>1601577
>which tbf it kind of is.
It's not.

 No.1603340

Hot take, but I wonder what would happen if Zionists (especially Revisionist Zionists and Likudniks) started taking a bite from PatSocs and began reading and applying ideas from Hegel, Heidegger, and D*gin into their ideology. I wonder how Haz and co would respond.

 No.1603343

>>1603340
With the way things are going I predict Israel will join BRICS by 2025

 No.1603344

>>1603343
I do too. Israel would be stupid not to join, and the one thing no one ever says about us Jews is that we’re stupid.


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