No.1682547[Last 50 Posts]
https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/Here is your new silicon valley religion bro
>We have enemies.
>Our enemies are not bad people – but rather bad ideas.
>Our present society has been subjected to a mass demoralization campaign for six decades – against technology and against life – under varying names like “existential risk”, “sustainability”, “ESG”, “Sustainable Development Goals”, “social responsibility”, “stakeholder capitalism”, “Precautionary Principle”, “trust and safety”, “tech ethics”, “risk management”, “de-growth”, “the limits of growth”.
>This demoralization campaign is based on bad ideas of the past – zombie ideas, many derived from Communism, disastrous then and now – that have refused to die. No.1682550
how many more times are these faggots going to reinvent the "enlightenment"
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>Patron Saints of Techno-Optimism
>In lieu of detailed endnotes and citations, read the work of these people, and you too will become a Techno-Optimist.
A small selection:
>Nick Land
>Ludwig von Mises
>William Nordhaus
>Ray Kurzweil
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egg
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>"You live in a deranged age — more deranged than usual, because despite great scientific and technological advances, man has not the faintest idea of who he is or what he is doing."
Oh more Pinkeroid bullshit *yawn*
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It's not enough that they rule over us, they have to be annoying cringe retards about it as well.
>>1682550techoids are coalescing as a block amoing the bourgeoisie, and they want to contest the financoids
This is their attfmpt at forming an ethos.
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>>1682560Somehow I doubt the tech people have the leverage to subjugate the banking sector, half the tech sector was laid off when SVB collapsed
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Holy shit a useless apolitical manifesto, and it's about tech optimism?? That's crazy.
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>>1682551Also there's Nietzsche lol.
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>>1682551Ironically they have Adam Smith and David Ricardo there. Both would've beaten this faggots to death with the biggest printed edition of their works.
Just shows that most of them don't even read those supposed "patron saints" it's jsut some fucking simulacrum.
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>>1682604>apolitical manifestoYeah, totally apolitical. It's just for a total free market with zero regulations. Otherwise completely apolitical. They even have left winged people among them (allegedly)
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>>1682547not sure why what a bunch of silicon valley VCs and GenX libertarian douchebros still mentally stuck in the 80s/90s think about shit is relevant.
These people have been singing the same tune since time immemorial and probably always will be. Good news is this viewpoint will likely always be niche so as long as a semblance of democracy exists and they dont go full pinochet its pretty likely to be voted down 9 times out of 10, even under bourgeois democracy because most porkoids and their lackeys in the civil service aren't fucking retards who think you can run a successful capitalist society based on what mises wrote in 1932 or whatever the fuck.
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>We believe Artificial Intelligence is our alchemy, our Philosopher’s Stone – we are literally making sand think.
Kill all tech fags
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>>1683238It's the logical conclusion of Marxism isn't it?
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>>1683240The difference is that Marxists don't worship technology in the abstract like these people but recognise it's worthless or harmful if it only is owned by and used for the ends of the super rich
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>>1683240No.
Kill yourself.
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>>1683243Not from my reading. Marx and Engels worshiped technological development or industrial development of any kind.
<In 1846-8 the USA fought a war with Mexico over Texas (where North American settlers had won independence from Mexico in 1835), California (then under Mexican rule), and the area in between (now called New Mexico, and then also under Mexican rule). The war ended with Texas, New Mexico and California being added to the ,\USA; and California, with the gold rush, did indeed develop capitalistically at a prodigious pace in the following years.<Will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance? No.1683253
>>1683248Yes, cite something.
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>>1682547and here is what you could consider the opposing answer, from the open source movement
https://andrewkelley.me/post/the-techno-optimist-manifesto.htmlbasically the sv conman can come out and advocate for total capitalist dictatorship, while the left is afraid of using the word socialism. this shit belongs in the usapol thread
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>>1683251Ehhhh, I mean that passage is certainly cringe but by and large Marxists in the modern day don't act like that.
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>>1683253We don't worship capitalists who think they're born to rule so no.
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>>1683258I suppose so, but still this is what the "Marxism" of Marx and Engels entails.
>>1683259Where does that even enter the topic of discussion?
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>>1682547>>Our enemies are not bad people – but rather bad ideas.this is liberalism.
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>>1682547why head like that
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>Our present society has been subjected to a mass demoralization campaign for six decades – against technology and against life – under varying names like “existential risk”, “sustainability”, “ESG”, “Sustainable Development Goals”, “social responsibility”, “stakeholder capitalism”, “Precautionary Principle”, “trust and safety”, “tech ethics”, “risk management”, “de-growth”, “the limits of growth”.
Wow! Malthusians BTFO!
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>>1683251source?
>>1683258neither did marx in 1857
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/01/23.htmbesides, the point of that quote is that capital (and at that moment, technological progress) imposes itself regardless of morals. not that you should personally condone brutality and cruelty
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>>1683310https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1849/02/15.htm==Democratic Pan-Slavism [314]
by Frederick Engels==
>How did it happen that over Texas a war broke out between these two republics, which, according to the moral theory, ought to have been "fraternally united" and "federated", and that, owing to "geographical, commercial and strategical necessities", the "sovereign will" of the American people, supported by the bravery of the American volunteers, shifted the boundaries drawn by nature some hundreds of miles further south? And will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance? No.1683331
>>1683258Ao so far we have "real Marxists don't agree with Engeks" fair enough I guess. And "engels didn't say that." "Yes he did." °
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Lol the impossible position of not being able to contradict the prophet engels mot being able to agree with him.
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>>1683331>But let us not harbour any illusions. Among all the pan-Slavists, nationality, i.e. imaginary common Slav nationality, takes precedence over the revolution. The pan-Slavists want to join the revolution on condition that they will be allowed to constitute all Slavs without exception, regardless of material necessities, into independent Slav states. If we Germans had wanted to lay down the same fantastic conditions, we would have got a long way in March! But the revolution does not allow of any conditions being imposed on it. Either one is a revolutionary and accepts the consequences of the revolution, whatever they are, or one is driven into the arms of the counter-revolution and one day finds oneself, perhaps without knowing or desiring it, arm in arm with Nicholas and Windischgrätz.multipolar bros…
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>>1683341I dunno, Germans never did any revolutionary shit ever. Seems like the Gernan Jews were fundamentally wrong.
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Lol pseuds have nothing ro say. What faggots. Believe something entirely different from those they claim to follow. Left speechless with no reply when asked to explain.
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>>1683363Why this sad faggotry? Why not br your true faggot self, not as a 19th century euro fag would accept you? They would denounce you all lmao.
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NOOO MARX AND ENGELS SUPPORTED MY SPECIFIC VIEWS OF 21st century fagggotrty!!!
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>>1683378Yes. I have taken my meds and have accepted the end of history. I have a comfy house in my liberal world.
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>>1683380Umm… actually he supported my specific views of 21st century faggotry?? Idiot?? Retard?? Kill yourself thats fucking obvious???
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>>1683383See how much better that feels?
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>>1683345I was joking, the point he was making wasn't that americans should have killed all the mexicans and germans should have killed all the slavs, but that capital at that moment needed big centralized states, that these interests don't care about morals or any other fantastic ideal, and that a cumulus of small slavic nation-states would be a pointless endeavor disconnected from the material reality. he was arguing against balkanization but I guess they didn't have that word back then. like, read the actual thing
unfortunately it reads like a paradox forum post because he made the mistake of giving entity to the identity politics of his opposition
>>1683383(the comfy house is a tent on the sidewalk)
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>>1683383Whatever may happen I eat good, work less, and sleep well.
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>>1683388He was clearly saying lazy mexicans can"t utilize land like energetic yankees.
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>>1683396Just like our grandaddy engels and Marx. Never worked a day in their life.
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>>1683339Engels' scientific socialist materialist analysis was correct and baukunin's moralistic nonsense was incorrect. Engels demonstrates this fact with several examples. The idiot believes that states and oppression are simply bad, while engles explains that conquest and such are historically necessary to lay the groundwork for revolutionary conditions.
>>1683321Engles didn't "support" the Yankees. The Yankee conquest of North america was historically necessary and unavoidable. Engles conducted scientific socialist analysis of existing material conditions and let the analysis shape his understanding.
>>1683258You do not understand the passage and its historical relevance.
>>1683345You must understand engel's material conditions. The German people were much more revolutionary during engel's lifetime than pan-slavic. The pan-slavic sided with the Austrian empire against the hungarian revolution.
>>1683405Work is for slaves.
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>>1683407Neirher bakunin or engels have been proved more correct by history. Both have been proved Euro sophists with no accurate methods of futurology/astrology.
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marx said whaaaaaaaaat? damn thats crazy
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>>1683407but you don't understand, he sounds mean so he must be a based and redpilled schizophrenic just like myself. I am the only person that truly understands marxism, by the way
you all? liberal sheeple
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>>1683417So you agree with him? Do you support the energetic Yankees? Nothing mean about it. Ate you pro nurge6r like engels or not?
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>>1683416Marx said he agrees with whatever I post. You've been checkmated. Sorry anon, you are a doo doo head and Marx PBUH agrees.
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>>1683417So you agree with him? Do you support the energetic Yankees? Nothing mean about it. Are you pro burger like engels or not?
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>>1682547I guess I am a techno optimist in my headcanon that technology can achieve profound transformations in all aspects of humanity, just not while it's constrained by the profit motive.
Like how do these "techbro" cultists always miss the biggest constraint, it's a giant raging rhinoceros in the room by now. If one assumes that at least some ideological content is there, and it's not all marketing. Then they are as dogmatic as the "Adeptus Mechanicus" from 40k. They genuinely think there is no worth to any scientific advancement that capitalism does not bless with profits. And even thinking outside capitalism is outright
HERESY.
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>>1683283To fit his megamind brain obviously
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Everyone in this thread should be thrown in the cuck pit with the author of this shitty manifesto
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>>1683433Well it's because they are the rich ones. This guy isn't even a tech guy, he runs a venture capital firm
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>>1683413In the context of the text provided, engles was proven to be fully correct. Baukunin has been proven wrong countless time up to now; such as by engels' text provided in this thread.
>>1683426Engles was not "pro burger". He simply understood the historical role of America as a progressive force during his lifetime. This is not a moral judgement or question of support, it was a historical fact.
>>1683417Historical facts > retard morality and judgement
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But where do bad ideas come from? I guess theyre just plucked at random from the aether, not historically encoded.
This is the consequence of enlightenment rationalism, thinking you can steamroll over reality with first principles.
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>>1683514well tbf alot of third world nations have vast amounts of people with cell phones now, making the third world have smartphones isnt that much of a stretch. Even african nations have brick phones
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>>1683520The larger point is that any radical "transformation" of technology can only serve the privileged. Thats why technological production today is embedded by the profit motive, since thats how its project stays afloat. Mass markets create instability which raise prices, besides the cost of production.
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>>1683514Yes but enough white subtle radlib racism where all nonwhites are impoverished know nothings who will never ever own a phone despite capital benefiting far more if they all do, where everyone outside the giant Attack On TItan border is a impoverished mud hutt villager in the 21st century, let's talk about how we can use this to our advantage, the future of agitprop is online.
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>>1683530Capital is massively unstable, im glad youre making my point for me
If you tried to give everyone in the world a western middle class existence the world would end.
This is why there has to be less people.
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>>1683536God Malthusians really are just the incels of the economic world but even incels have some solutions for how to fix looks based discrimination or something, you fags actually just buy into anti human kool aid.
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>>1683537You act like 8 billion humans is a normal and stable metric. Its never happened before, and certainly not at this level of economic demand which commands a global market.
At least we still have abortion and contraception (for now).
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>>1683541>NEW BIG NUMBER LE BAD! UNSTABLE! IGNORE INFINITE UNIVERSE! POPULATION MUST BE KEPT STABLE! BILLIONS MUST DIE!Great argument there genius, truly the worlds smartest Malthusian reactionary.
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>>1683542>infinite universeWe dont live on an infinite earth lol
Or did you also forget that it takes 7 months to take a small rocket to mars? Not exactly a booming business opportunity.
Like any economic activity the population boom is a bubble and it will pop soon enough. Or do you believe in "infinite growth" keynesian bullshit?
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>>1683545I believe infinity is a general concept, I also believe that all things are a economy and that tells me that despite everything it has a self preservation aspect that will persist no matter how many pops.
Additionally your fear mongering doesn't work, serious answer:
Asia and the west are rapidly approaching population collapse and Africa is coming right after.
Most population centers are tightly packed, look at most of America and it's primarily trees and nothing else.
The population can go to 12 billion and with socialism it would be no problem, as it's organizational structures that are our problems.
That said understand that we are entering behavioral sink for a reason, mammals are hard wired to enter into a lurid state of not wanting sex further to lower the population once placed into that state.
How beneficial is this? Who knows, but rest assured your bs hypothesis isn't going to peak and go how you want it to.
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>>1683549What youre saying basically is that no number is too high because we can just rip up the natural world and build houses on its foundation. That to me is the truly sinister, utilitarian agenda behind your hysteria. Its an anthropocentric fallacy that man is not responsible to his environment. Again, its all about "living space" with you types - but what is "living" anyway? Its not mere survival, but luxury. Thats why i say its ridiculous to expect 8 billion people living like the average western suburbanite. People like you too have this concept of the keynesian economy that money is still a universal equivalent, when in fact inflation has created plural societies with plural markets, to filter and recollect the wealth of the rich. Thats why we have progressive taxation, not to create equality, but to settle prices.
Theres a phenomena for example called "velocity of money" which separates markets between retail and wholesale for example, where items are priced differently based on their supply because they exist in different markets - thats why you need a costco card to even enter into the store…
This exists because money is fractured within its own unit of exchange, in the example of luxuries certainly. In a strange way, the *must* buy lamborghinis and roles royces. They have to buy expensive homes and so on. Its the culture that the economy creates.
I know this sounds confused, because it is, but its about identifying a confusion within today's advanced capitalist economy. Basically, socialism would completely crash the currency and destroy wealth. Not because socialism le bad, but because growth cultists like you give presence to this monster of the market. Growth is unsustainable, like bubbles, and eventually it all pops.
A market correction must be met by an economic reset, which basically means that inflation must be flattened which will also means millions (billions?) will die, and this is inevitable without preliminary measures like two-child policies and so on.
People dont understand what 30 trillion of debt in the US government really means.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/ No.1683586
>>1683549Holy fuck
You’re like an actual child
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>>1683584>>1683586you're arguing with someone who will handwave away thermodynamics if it disagrees with them
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>>1683541>>1683536>If you tried to give everyone in the world a western middle class existence the world would end.prove it
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>>1683654Thats because "most people" live in squalor
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>>1683649He can't, it's actually the same cope as "Homeless people MUST exist because it's simply not possible to give everyone a home, it's just not."
Which is followed up with
>"Well we CAN'T prove it. That would just destroy the economy!"Followed up with
>"Well even if we could, guess what, most homeless people don't want to work! They're all mentally ill druggie subhumans! LET THEM DIE!!!"To these people selective outdated statistics fuel their paranoia to justify their need to always have less and less but always for others, never themselves of course.
After all if they truly believed this, and I know this is a basic argument, but if they did they can always just:
A. Become lifestylists.
B. Kill themselves.
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>>1683658>>1683649As an experiment, take the total amount of the worlds money and divide it between the world population and see what answer you get
Now consider the mechanism for this transference
Then understand what i have laid out above that the universal equivalent is no longer universal due to inflation producing artificial markets that facilitate useless luxury items
Then you can get the picture, that "wealth" is largely a fallacy outside of necessities (which is the materialist perspective)
Then consider global distribution of middle class existences again and you run into the same problem.
This only means that we need less people. If we cant cut down, nature will for us.
Thats life.
>>1683639Lol
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>>1683665>As an experiment, take the total amount of the worlds money and divide it between the world population and see what answer you getNow consider the mechanism for this transference
Does no one in this thread understand what the fuck socialism is, why the fuck would anyone do this if they had the power to, at that point don't do some UBI redistribution bs, do actual fucking socialism.
>Then you can get the picture, that "wealth" is largely a fallacy outside of necessities (which is the materialist perspective)Nah, wealth is clearly material. In fact that's capitalism 101.
Extract labor.
Turn it into commodities.
Own commodities and
manufacturing.The monetary system exists only to extract as it currently stands, in fact the first thing people tell you to do in order to gain wealth is spend as much money as you can into stocks, stakes in real estate, and even cars, if you pick the right ones they wont depreciate in value.
>If we can't cut down nature will for usGo ahead and tell me about the hecking epic incoming ecopolaypse erino, my I hope, ecofascist friend, because if not I'm under strong suspicion you're a capitalist or fascist trying to justify this shit. I can counter that too.
Meanwhile, guess what, nature already is.
I said above your fear mongering is pointless.
Give it 30 years, the birthrate is declining in Asia and the north, Africa will follow suit, rest assured behavioral sink exists to prevent overpopulation like how sexual reproduction developed to prevent it, you're right, but it won't be the righteous hand of some pagan ecofascist god striking us down, it will be a voluntary, slow decline, and will be more peaceful than the ryona-guro fantasies you jerk off to as you switch tabs between rape doujins and Crossed.
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>>1683655the year is 2023 granddad not 1923
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>>1683672Inflated "wealth" is not material, its what is held in reserve in the banks of the wealthy to mitigate economic collapse, thats my point. The rich CANT spend money on necessities but MUST spend their money on luxuries to spend it at all, thats why i say that they exist in a parallel society within a parallel market.
The apocalyptic conclusion about this is that there are not enough necessities to be able to sell to both the rich and poor at equal prices (hence my invocation of the velocity of money).
If the rich engaged in retail economies the prices of goods would inflate tenfold. This says something about the scarcity of goods.
My point about redistributing cash is this same point. Necessary goods are NOT cash. So therefore cash is not necessary goods.
As a man once said in 2020:
<"when money is toilet paper, toilet paper becomes money"Cash must be pegged to commodities, inflation is when there is too much cash to assign to general goods, so must be assigned to luxuries, which do not apply to 99.9999% of humanity.
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>>1683680Im talking about the world, not america, zoomer
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>>1683683grandad the chinese have electricity now you know they even have indoor toilets in australia now let's get you your medicine
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>>1683697It only proves the point that their propaganda literally cannot create a good image of things, things are that bad
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>>1683699what the fuck even is this logic dude and you call others delusional and making shit up?
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>>1683703you arent on twitter or 4chan dude, actually answer the question instead of going for the epic dunk
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>>1683706If the US govt gave out stats saying 80% of people like the US govt, you can suspect the stats are inflated but cant be too high because it would disprove the very assertion
Its the same way with any study that claims that people are coming out of poverty
But anyway, i never said people were making things up, just that they are wrong. The point of these stats is to compare it to middle class american existence where $1.90 is nothing.
So trying to export the american standard of living on such a large scale is impossible because there just arent enough goods in the world to facilitate that.
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>>1683694>>1683697>>1683699If capitalism was actually SUCH a hellhole we would've had the revolution long ago, one of the main talking points of marxism is that capitalism still gives you some level of comfort so people aren't pushed to overthrow it.
Whole point of capitalism was to accumulate and socialize production, whole point of communism is to properly reap those benefits, not undo it in the first place.
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>>1683710There have literally never been a greater number of chattel slaves involved in production than under capitalism.
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>>1683710Youre right, but
Most of the people who live in terrible poverty dont have functioning markets due to political and social problems, so cant enjoy the wealth which comes from capitalism. So much of the mitigation of global poverty comes from foreign aid and other artificial remedies; throwing money at problems basically. The "comforts" of capitalism in any case is simply the wages that reproduce the workers conditions of subsistence, which is higher in the west since production is more advanced.
There is also imperialism and so forth, but the main point is that many countries have not really entered into a robust liberalism and so have also not entered into their own industrial revolutions.
Evil malthusians like me say that too much global industrialisation creates wealth but kills the planet, so its bad.
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more like the pop-modernism manifesto. some incredibly stupid logic in there too such as:
>landian singularity=good
>communism=capitalism with a human face
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>>1683713Only in absolute terms, not relative.
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>>1682547>This demoralization campaign is based on bad ideas of the past – zombie ideas, many derived from Communism, disastrous then and now – that have refused to die.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I figured Marc Andereesen was not a genius but this is just fucking retarded.
No.1683986
>>1682547This document is a gemfield of precious wisdom
>We believe we should push to drop prices across the economy through the application of technology until as many prices are effectively zero as possible, driving income levels and quality of life into the stratosphere.LTV deniers be like: yeah commodities can be priced to near 0. Profits? Falling rate of profit? Never heard of them.
>We believe Andy Warhol was right when he said, “What’s great about this country is America started the tradition where the richest consumers buy essentially the same things as the poorest. You can be watching TV and see Coca-Cola, and you can know that the President drinks Coke, Liz Taylor drinks Coke, and just think, you can drink Coke, too. A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drinking. All the Cokes are the same and all the Cokes are good.” Same for the browser, the smartphone, the chatbot.Kendall Jenner drinking Pepsi, saving black people by sharing Pepsi with cops. Why do poor people complain again? They can drink Pepsi??
>We believe the global population can quite easily expand to 50 billion people or more, and then far beyond that as we ultimately settle other planets.Moronic take. How are we going to settle "other planets" you fucking morons. At best we can MAYBE settle Mars with enormous effort. How the fuck are you even going to get near Jupiter, much less fucking land on it. Or fucking Venus where it rains acid and it's hot as fucking balls. Get real hahahahaha
>However, we are not Utopians.>We are adherents to what Thomas Sowell calls the Constrained Vision.>We believe the Constrained Vision – contra the Unconstrained Vision of Utopia, Communism, and Expertise – means taking people as they are, testing ideas empirically, and liberating people to make their own choices.There's nothing more Utopian than what they propose here. Is wealth inequality going to be magically solved by the same people who fight tooth and nail to maintain it? Hahahahaha don't fuck with me. Andreesen is one of the richest people on earth.
>Technology is built by a virtual United Nations of talent from all over the world. Anyone with a positive attitude and a cheap laptop can contribute. Technology is the ultimate open society.Hahahahahaha pleaaaaase! These are the enemies of true FOSS and freedom of netizens. STFU! All his companies are not FOSS. Like fuck off!
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>>1683986More like Uncle Thomas Sowell
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I was listening to a novara video last week, and this manifesto was mentioned there. The guy talking said that his intuition is telling him this: Even the lawers, the programmers and all around those billionaire cretins are starting to fear automation. Before it was only the factory workers. Who cares about them. But now probably the close friends of people like andersen are afraid and not fall in line anymore, there are probably some complaints. So they produce this manifesto which pretty much means "you are with us or against us" like a religion.
I find this thinking fascinating.
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>>1683448Yes progressive in the process of industrializing America from coast to coast. That's why I brought it up. Engels and Marx were firm believers more industrial development = more better. Feel free to pull some text that says otherwise.
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This guy and his gay manifesto did not deserve a whole thread
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>>1684126There is this concept varoufakis pushes, about "technofeudalism". There are others talking about "cloud capital". They generally argue that capitalism is dead and whatever is coming might be resembling capitalism but has to do more with rents than profits.
There is also an ongoing union of big finance and big tech. Silicon valley of course pushes all that shit.So I think it's a big subject.
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I want to see all these wastes of genetic material get pushed in by a hydraulic press.
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>>1683263>Where does that even enter the topic of discussion?Stop being thick. Technology isn't a magic bullet and AI isn't real.
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