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FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
PALESTINE SHALL BE FREE

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY IN PALESTINE 🇵🇸
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• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/18/israel-hamas-war-live-conditions-worsen-as-another-baby-dies-at-al-shifa

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/nov/18/israel-hamas-war-live-israel-issues-fresh-warning-to-leave-khan-younis-report-of-26-killed

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 No.1685213

>>1685205
thats a myth

 No.1685216

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>>1685183
>Those rear doors on the Merkavas are a weak point. They are meant for offloading infantry since Merkavas are hybrid tanks with an IFV style troop carrying capacity. An explosive charge on one of those could do serious damage to any men inside.
Yea, Resistance SOP for prisoner taking is firing a rocket at the doors of these things (APCs or Tanks) and draging out any survivors.
Shalit was a tank operator (and then take them through a tunnel across the border and collapse the tunnel behind).
<picrel
I imagine the shape of the back helps point the explosion towards the doors too.

 No.1685218

>>1685216
In the Shalit incident I heard one guy popped a nade through the Merkavas's top hatch and other guys fired at the troops exiting from the rear. A wounded Shalit was dragged out of the tank injured and probably suffering a concussion.

 No.1685220


>IDF went from winning a war in 6 days to running and crying like crazy when they see bullets or rockets fired at them before calling in a hundred airstrikes


sociological explanation?

 No.1685221

>>1685218
oh yea i guess a grenade works as well as an rpg!

 No.1685222

>>1685220
antisemitic sissy hypno

 No.1685224

>>1685220
Apples and oranges.

 No.1685235

>>1685205
That's fuddlore and would only be plausible if there were only like 1 or 2 Americans with Garands, fighting in extremely close proximity to the enemy. Battles are loud as fuck and you aren't going to hear a ping amidst thousands of rounds being exchanged. Even if you did and tried to rush one guy who was reloading, the rest of his squad would clap you.

 No.1685238

>>1685038
That's a southern baptist preacher thing he's got going. They call them fire and brimstone preachers.

 No.1685240

>>1685220
>Holocaust survivors, WW2 vets, and their immediate offspring have bigger balls than neoliberal atomized psytrance hippies with a second passport
Who would have guessed?

 No.1685242

>>1685238
>That's a southern baptist preacher thing he's got going. They call them fire and brimstone preachers.

 No.1685244

>>1685033
Why are they speaking English? Are they IDF or US Army?

 No.1685245

As a satanist I support Israel because they are doing the lord satan's work in destroying righteousness and poisoning minds everywhere. Well done Israel!

 No.1685256

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<picrel
Aliens
>>1685244
>they
It's just one guy anon.
He is probably a settler/dual-passport playing up his accent.

 No.1685259

Would I be wrong to say it is likely IDF wants time to re-asses, dig in and intel gather? they've been moving alot in tanks and APCs but not taking up positions so much, they have in beit hanoun, this is where we have seen many of the anti-personel attacks on positions and patrols.
>“Yet, here he is, accepting a deal that has been … on the table for many weeks.”

El-Masry said that if the deal goes into effect, Hamas will be able to sell it as a “kind of victory” and so will Netanyahu to some extent.

But asked whether this truce could be the start of further negotiations for a permanent ceasefire, el-Masry said: “I’m not personally very optimistic about that.”

 No.1685260

>>1685242
>the tree of the Second coming of the Messiah must be refreshed with the blood of Palestinians and Israelis
Most compassionate Lutheran "christian"

 No.1685262

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>>1685260
>Most compassionate Lutheran "christian"
Baptist turned original brand. Lutherans have turned away from OG Lutheranism.

>Locke founded Global Vision Baptist Church in 2006. In 2011, the church officially split from the Independent Baptist movement and changed its name to Global Vision Bible Churc

 No.1685312

>>1685136
>they shouldn't be afraid to challenge this
They are. They are just doing it through the UN because they want to actually solve the problem once and for all. Its a much bigger win if they can get the whole world lined up against the US and then force them to accept a Palestinian state. They will not act unilaterally because they respect international law and are trying to replace the rules based order with a law based one. They are setting up for an international military intervention against Israel based on the Korean precedent set by the UN.

 No.1685315

The UN are the biggest cowards on the Israel Palestine issue.

 No.1685316

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>>1685136
>This is the most advantageous moment! The US is currently bogged down in two wars, they've destroyed their credibility
like the war on terror?
>a greater calamity would be the US reasserting its dominance over the global south
a greater calamity is a nuclear exchange.
>[non-US aligned leaders were] deposed by US intervention, which China evidently lacks the desire to seriously challenge
challenge it with better deals and action at the UN, USIsrael is facing near unanimous opposition
>[the Chinese] don't need hundreds of military bases around the world
but they do need hundreds of American military bases around south east Asia and the indian subcontinent to fuck off.
>We are seeing the fruits of the "peaceful" decline of American hegemony in the 14,000 dead Palestinians and leveled Ukrainian villages.
the level of violence against civilians in Palestine is unprecedented but the Iraq and Afghan wars were also host to atrocities, war crimes, enormous suffering for the civilian population

 No.1685318

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Statement from Fauda (anarchist group in Palestine)
An important and decisive war has begun in Occupied Palestine. We spent the eighteenth day of the “Al-Aqsa Storm” operation while more than 4,900 Palestinians have been martyred in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and more than 15,000 people injured. Since the beginning of this war, the Fauda movement has used all its field and media resources to confront the fascist Zionists. Our young people in the West Bank, every day and night, are struggling and fighting the Israeli army and the security forces of the treacherous Palestinian Authority (PA) complementing the Zionist project in the West Bank.

We declare to every Zionist who has been occupying our land that we will resist until the last moment of our lives. And even if this war ends, we will be like active bombs which move in your settlements and rob you of your normal daily life. You will never be at peace in our land. We will not leave you alone as long as you occupy our land. Get out of it and get on with your lives. We request all free people in the world to burn the Israeli flag and march towards Israeli embassies in all countries. Do your duty and be the voice of the Palestinians and the voice of all the innocent children and women who are being killed under the barbaric and brutal bombing of the Zionists. We tell all our enemies in the Zionist apartheid regime that we have a lot of surprises for you. And know that we will be on the lookout for you from the north to the south of Palestine, whether inside the occupied territory in the West Bank or even in the Gaza Strip.

We are anarchists. We are legends. We don’t forget. We don’t forgive. Expect us.

Video from @fauda_ps on Telegram:
high quality – https://t.me/fauda_ps/16294
medium quality – https://t.me/fauda_ps/16295
low quality – https://t.me/fauda_ps/16296

DN Note: For more info about ‘Fauda’ check out this interview: https://blackrosefed.org/interview-fauda-palestine/

 No.1685319

>>1685318
so this statement is from late october, what have they done since then?

 No.1685323

>>1685321
cope and seethe faggot.
>>1685319
>so this statement is from late october, what have they done since then?
idk anon. get telegram and ask them i guess.

 No.1685326

If there's one thing that's really easy to do is take a picture of yourself and your buddies cosplaying as guerrillas and releasing meaningless statements to the public. If these guys are legit anarchists they should actually do something before running their mouths.

 No.1685330

Has anything been happening in the West Bank? Or do the Zionists have too much of a lock on things there?

 No.1685331

>>1685330
A couple thousand people have died there and there have been a bunch of major operations against West Bank militias

 No.1685332

>>1685316
>like the war on terror
Circumstances are just a little different now.

 No.1685337

>>1685256
>im not saying it was hamas…… but it was hamas

 No.1685338

>>1685319
not die, presumably. what can they do really, except support each other. really there is no act more radical than surviving under the occupation of a fascist state

 No.1685340

>>1685326
>If these guys are legit anarchists they should actually do something before running their mouths.
<We have carried out various activities, including teaching Palestinian youth how to struggle and the methods of struggle and anarchist thought (the educational unit). Coordinating various vigils and protests, some peaceful and some in the form of a black bloc (the executive unit). Publishing news and everything related to Palestine and the Palestinian people, and what the Israeli army and security systems are doing. The suppression of individual and social freedoms, demolition of Palestinian homes, killing of children, massacres and genocide against the Palestinian people and so on (News Unit). And the dissemination of important information about the history of Palestine, the history of the Palestinian and Israeli conflict, and the intellectual differences that the new generation may face from its past, because here we are facing a fierce media war that distorts the facts and turns them in favor of Israel. As you know, Israel has channels that broadcast around the clock in Arabic in order to distort historical facts and spread its false narrative about the past and what is currently happening on the ground (Media Unit).
It appears they are an embryonic movement seeking to form bonds and political agitation within their communities.
You didn't read anything before - ironically - running your mouth, did you anon?

>>1685330
>Has anything been happening in the West Bank? Or do the Zionists have too much of a lock on things there?
It's been on lock in that it has been incredibly violent, nightly raids, last night for example at least left 6 dead, power and utilities attacked, and so on and so on. we did not even see air strikes in the west bank before the 7th now they are daily.
Maybe I am optimistic but this will be a turning point for the west bank because things have materially changed so drastically, people will start to get organized either through hamas or through other political and armed factions, away from the PA. Maybe it will be to late buti think it'll happen regardless.

 No.1685341

>>1685331
I see. Most of the coverage has been based on Gaza. The last thing I heard was some "announcement" from some super secret group threatening to overthrow Abbas or something.

 No.1685345

>>1685256
I said they because the soldiers listening clearly understand him and some are replying in English.

 No.1685347

>>1685331
>thousand
about 200
>>1685338
I'd say that actually striking back at the occupation would be more significant.
>>1685340
So they talk to people and make posts online. do they engage in any resistance which isn't just preaching to the choir of western anarchists online?
>>1685341
The groups hasn't done anything and probably never existed in the first place.

 No.1685349

>>1685347
>So they talk to people and make posts online. do they engage in any resistance which isn't just preaching to the choir of western anarchists online?
you sound like a salty faggot.
cry moar.

 No.1685351

>>1685340
So basically they handed out leaflets and publish a newsletter or more likely just put post stuff out on telegram and social media i.e. nothing like 99% of leftist orgs these days are made up of wannabes with an internet connection or in all likelihood a couple of people sat in a trailer park larping as Palestinians.

>some in the form of a black bloc

Please stop…

It just sounds like a nothing burger that naive lefties will support because they put ideology above all else and they're shopping around for Palestinian movements that ideologically align with them rather than backing the strongest horse or just not being so damn picky with their food.

Anarchism is washed up anyway.

>>1685347
If you count up all the deaths in the West Bank since the beginning of the year I think it comes to about 2,000. It's been a very bloody year in the West Bank long before Oct 7th.

 No.1685353

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 No.1685354

New Hezbollah video of targeting concentrations of IDF troops in the border area.

 No.1685356

>https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3242369/israel-gaza-war-only-two-state-solution-can-bring-real-peace-china-president-says-first-public

>“I have emphasised on many occasions that the only viable way to break the cycle of Palestinian-Israeli conflict lies in a two-state solution, in the restoration of the legitimate national rights of Palestine, and in the establishment of an independent state of Palestine,” Xi said.


So western leftists and jihadists are the only ones ride or die for a one state palestinian solution, then? Libchads win again

 No.1685357

How much you people will cry and piss and shit when anarchists do political organizing never ceases to amaze me.

 No.1685358

>>1685351
No, it was ~200 before and ~200 since. get your figures straight.
>>1685349
Anon, face it. your group has done NOTHING. you can make a thousand blogposts and knock over a thousand trash cans and it will make zero progress towards ending the occupation.

 No.1685362

>>1685347
>I'd say that actually striking back at the occupation would be more significant.
if you haven't noticed israel has been bombing gaza for two months because hamas striked at the occupation lol. i dunno what's your beef against some small anarchist group on palestine. i'd be more empathetic with your annoyance towards anarchists if they were burgers.

 No.1685363

>>1685357
Anon, that's the problem. THEY AREN'T DOING ANY MEANINGFUL ORGANIZING. writing a blog does NOTHING because the only people who read anarchist's blogs are other anarchists who already agree with everything said. from your quote they literally didn't list a single serious action besides a vague mention of "methods of struggle" (though they don't seem to have done much struggle against the occupation). When they stage ambushes against the IDF, or help workers organize against their bosses, then you can tell us all and gloat about how wrong we were but they haven't done that yet.

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>>1685358
>>1685363
>Your
I'm not Palestinian you sped.
>coping and seething and pissing and shitting
okay.

 No.1685367

>>1685357
Anarchists barely do anything beyond write blogs, burn trash, occasionally protest and that's it. In France they can bring quite a lot of people out on the street, but everywhere else they do pretty much nothing or very little and whatever they do quickly goes to shit because of their amazing ability to infight over petty issues. Sometimes they come up with some utopian experiment that inevitably goes to shit because they refuse to listen to good advice because they think their long dead anarchist writers know better. Anarchists ruined the Occupy Movement and look at the whole CHAZ mess. I would be really happy if anarchists did more and did things actually substantive.

If you have a group nobody's heard before suddenly come out of nowhere and all of a sudden start making very radical statements from the start that either means one of three things, they are naive teenagers or glowuyghurs or useful idiots for the feds. Fauda is of course the name of an Israeli TV show.

 No.1685368

Israeli military releases new videos on al-Shifa Hospital tunnels

One video, posted on the Israeli military’s English-language X account, showed the entrance to a tunnel, which led to a room with an air conditioning unit and nearby bathrooms.

An Israeli military press release also said a living room, kitchen and “hiding place” were found in the facility. The release said the findings prove Hamas operates “systematically” from within hospitals.

Hamas has denied the claim, and health workers have said there was no noticeable presence of the group at medical facilities.

Commentators have also noted that the existence of tunnels and rooms under al-Shifa does not in itself confirm Israel’s claim that the hospital facility was used as a Hamas operational headquarters.

In a Monday interview on CNN with journalist Christiane Amanpour, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak said Israel had itself helped to build underground facilities at the hospital “probably four decades ago”, saying they were built to “enable more space for the operation of the hospital within the very limited size of this compound”.

A report by the Israeli site Ynet also detailed Israeli construction under al-Shifa dating back to 1983 – construction built during Israel’s physical presence in Gaza from 1967 to 2005. It was not immediately clear if the facilities displayed by Israel’s military were the same as those referenced by Barak and in the Ynet report.

Israeli official says captive release won’t happen ‘before Friday’

Israeli National Security Adviser Tzachi Hanegbi made the announcement, appearing to quash speculation the captive release could begin on Thursday.

“The start of the release will proceed according to the original agreement between the parties, and not before Friday,” Hanegbi said.

The government approved the deal, which will see 50 Israeli captives released in exchange for 150 Palestinian prisoners over a four-day period, in the early hours of Wednesday.

That began a 24-hour period for the public to appeal the decision at Israel’s high court.

Israel did not immediately provide more information about why the release would only begin on Friday at the earliest.

 No.1685369

>>1685367
>muh CHAZ
didn't read lmao.
go back to fbi.gov and stay there hazoid. :-)

 No.1685372

>>1685369
wtf is a hazoid?

 No.1685374

>>1685369
yet another case of an anarchist becoming enraged when asked what positive contributions they have made to the movement, very sad.

 No.1685557

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>>1685171
>ywn get adopted by the houthis

 No.1686600

>>1685367
>CHAZ
He's a fat midget chinles


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