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 No.173342[Last 50 Posts]

Last time on leftybritpol: >>152149
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 No.173354

working on a song here's what I've go so far

Keir Starmer / Fear Starmer
Put on BBC Parliament you don't even Hear Starmer
He's a cop / He's a scab /
Don't make me spell it out for you /
ACAB /

ACLB, Talk to me / Alright, I'll call you Tony
Why's your protege such a melt / Is this worse than Basra, do you remember how you felt?
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 No.173358

>>173354
His name's Sir Keir Starmer, he's your knight in glowing armour
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 No.173986

>>173985
Ah yes lets just thumb our nose at the world superpower to defend democracy in some entre port we used to own. Fucking idiots.
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 No.174134

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>>173985
she was Labours only hope tbh
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 No.174137

>>173985
I really want to like Nandy but she's been so moronic on foreign policy
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 No.174141

>>174137
She's just mornonic on everything m8
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 No.174149

Telling The Economist that i'm banning steel imports from China to sanction them for their violation of the treaties around Hong Kong but actually it's just a secret way to get them to endorse protectionism
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 No.174152

File: 1618659662877-0.pdf (2.09 MB, 199x300, Blair Socialism.pdf)

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Also we're bringing Blairite gang back, sit down and read some Blairite theory lads.
At the very least skimread it, it's very very short.
every time i read stuff from this era of Blairism I feel my braincells dying. Blair wasn't a stupid man, his private analysis of Thatcherism in the 1980s was more or less spot on, how the fuck did he manage to pivot to such vapid platitudes in such short order? It's actually quite frightening. At best he was and is a truly remarkable liar, sticking to the lie long after it has ceased to be of use, at worst he came to believe total and utter nonsense because - ultimately - it was convenient to him to do so, even if to his own mind he was acting in good faith and learning new things every step of the way. It is a truism that you can't make someone understand something if their job depends on not understanding it, but watching it play out in practice is truly grotesque.
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 No.174242

Alba are putting their manifesto out next Wednesday

Not so sure it's such a good idea to leave it that late when everyone's already got their postal votes.
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 No.174389

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>>174152
>Blair is a bastard
I'll never understand how he caved so fast and so hard. I wasn't around then and don't know an awful lot of the history but was there no significant opposition to New Labour? Wtf were the trade unions doing?
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 No.174495

>>174389
The battles were mostly lost for the left before Blair became leader. Internally Labour were fed up of losing, 1992 was seen as an election that was all but impossible to lose and Labour lost it quite badly. John Smith (for all his flaws which we politely airbrush away because of his tragic death) essentially recognized that Labour could win 1997 without much further alteration of its positions or style. The left were discredited, the centre-left had lost most of its intellectual heft, and the right were ascendant, especially as they had most of the last "modernizers" standing. (modernization being partially policy reform, but also partially simple campaigning reform: less Michael Foot awkwardly riding around with a megaphone in town halls, more flashy TV ads.) Internally Blair, unlike Kinnock, could make relatively small concessions to the left and unions (Prescott becoming deputy leader for example) which they were inclined to support in the interest of (a) actually getting a Labour government of some kind since the Conservatives were still pressing ahead with even more anti-union laws and privatizations, and (b) not creating big factional wars that they would certainly lose to the newly empowered party right. He could also afford to see off most internal challenges by giving potential challengers good posts. (Most notably Gordon Brown got to keep shadow chancellor and a lot of influence over domestic policy in exchange for not running in 1994, and Robin Cook kept foreign secretary for not running too.) So even if the left wanted to make a challenge, there wasn't really anyone they could rally around to lead a challenge. (This is part of the reason Gordon Brown eventually picked up so many centre-left sympathizers.)

If you have the time and you watch attentively, "Labour: The wilderness years" is a very good documentary which a surprisingly helpful Tory has put on YouTube. It was made before Blair became prime minister, so structurally it feels quite a bit like it's pointing towards Blairism being the natural, obviously correct conclusion to all of Labour's struggles, but with a more critical eye you can pick apart both the missteps of the left and centre-left and the non-sequitur nature of Blairite conclusions about how Labour had to change. Because it was made in the 1990s, before hagiographies of "the only Labour leader to win 3 consecutive elections" could be written, it accidentally lets slip that there were non-Blairite modernisers like Bryan Gould in the party, people who knew that Labour had to deal with the post-Thatcher reality not by going back to the postwar consensus, but not by accepting Thatcherism either. They have conveniently been written out of history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIgiV8yn3xU Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ITCj38dLgk Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DBqwerqCOs Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1LTIe2YfMc Part 4
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 No.174546

>>174495
Thanks for the summary, sounds like it was a disaster. Blair was certainly smart, I'll give him that. I'll check out those documentaries, I am curious about the left of the party during that period, did not know that there were any alternatives to Blair. Always assumed that he was the natural successor to Smith.
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 No.174601

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What?
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 No.174605

>>174495
Those docs are really good, can recommend them: and one titbit, a certain J. Corbyn and J. Lansman make appearances as young men.
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 No.174668

I might rise above minimum wage and become tenner an hour gang tomorrow. I fucking need this, I am sick of budgeting everything. Only the energy of this thread can save me from eternal shit job. Plz gib
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 No.174712

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>>174668
When do you plan on joining the Tory party? A tenner an hour's too good of a wage to be posting on here, bloody champagne socialist.
Seriously gl though
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 No.174752

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>>174668
Gl luck sage
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 No.174796

>>174752
>>174712
Thank you most gracious comrades
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 No.174845

>>174495
>a surprisingly helpful Tory
DON'T TRUST HIM COMRADE!!!!
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 No.174995

Have you seen this?
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 No.175037

>>174995
No lmao
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 No.175512

https://newrepublic.com/article/162000/bill-gates-impeded-global-access-covid-vaccines

>When the director of Oxford’s Jenner Institute had funny ideas about placing the rights to its COVAX-supported vaccine candidate in the public domain, Gates intervened. As reported by Kaiser Health News, “A few weeks later, Oxford—urged on by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation—reversed course [and] signed an exclusive vaccine deal with AstraZeneca that gave the pharmaceutical giant sole rights and no guarantee of low prices.”


would be funny if people organised a mass refusal to take the vaccine until it is completely and fully open sourced and distributed the world over. it's pointless taking it unless everyone is inoculated, we'll just have it mutate again in africa or south america when the borders are opened and vaccinated cunts start mingling with unvaccinated cunts, thus restarting the whole fucking pandemic all over again.

intellectual property is theft. gotta stop the thieves, lads
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 No.176106

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>>174845
You're too late
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 No.176114

Hey what’s the difference between the Tories and the Liberal party?
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 No.176129

>>176114
They're unambiguously pro-European and socially liberal. Traditionally their support comes from a mixture of nice middle class areas that would never go Labour but might get angry at the Tories and from rural areas that retained something of a Liberal-radical tradition rather than going over to Labour.
They tend not to go for Law and Order, bring back hanging, bugger the immigrants and back the Army sort of rhetoric even if they're at ease with the market. Traditionally they've been wishy-washy economically, even arguably falling left of new Labour in 2001 and 2005, but since "Orange Book Liberals" (Blairites) took over in the mid-2000s and especially since they entered government in 2010-15 it's been hard to distinguish them from Tories on big economic questions. (I'll check their manifestos and see if there's anything to add here.)
They also love electoral reform in principle while the Conservatives are implacably opposed and Labour flirts with the idea but never commits. That said, they had a golden opportunity to get electoral reform in 2010 and they blew it, so that's that.

But in post-2015 Britain their defining thing is to be smug cosmopolitan pro-European sorts, in contrast to the Conservatives boisterous paper-thin "patriotism" and Labour's attempt to stay out of politics.
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 No.176284

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Tv loicense well spent
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 No.176292

>>174389
Granita Pact and Brown been super rightwing
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 No.176385

Super League Nika Riots when?
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 No.176856

>>176385
Genuinely think the super league thing will actually kick up a lot of class consciousness. I mean the absolute full faced greed is shocking, Liverpool signing up for it has really struck home for me 'all that is solid melts into air'. I know there are more important things going on but this is just shameless
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 No.176880

>>176106
why do thatcherites have the same symbol as the flag of Zaire?
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 No.176888

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You could have prevented this.
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 No.177006

>>176880
I'm not sure. In the Tory case it's the Torch of Freedom.
(Funnily enough both were adopted in the 1970s, the flag of Zaire in 71 and the Torch in 77)
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 No.177251

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>>177006
They had one before hand tho, tho it's more of a brazen.
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 No.177252

Daily Reminder Alexander Norton AKA Sandy Hale is a nonce
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 No.177327

>Starmer thrown out of Bath pub in lockdown row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyoDJ1Fk47E

E L E C T A B L E
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 No.177359

>>176888
How many Ls can the British Leavers take? This is just getting sad.
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 No.177405

>>177327
tbf that landlord seemed incredibly retarded. Labour should be sending scouts ahead, to stop gaffes like this from happening.
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 No.177410

>>177327
>Bath
of course he goes to bath the posh cunt.
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 No.177416

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>>177327
>The Labour Party press office tweeted that it will "not be amplifying" the footage of the Labour leader being confronted.
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 No.177440

>>177405
Yeah, he sounds like he's into some vaccine conspiracy shit, it was amusing to see the sphere get 'get outta my pub'-ed.
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 No.177456

>>177416
Starmer also linked a "sign up to vote" page as a response.
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 No.177525

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 No.177574

>>177525
>Make sure in place of strife becomes law
Wut
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 No.177581

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 No.177585

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 No.177592

>>177581
beautiful
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 No.177698

>>177581
‎‎
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 No.178194

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Lamo. This is the most english of crises.
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 No.178250

>Christopher Ecclestone namedrops Engels

Based?

Yeah I'm thinking based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi_HO6SrwSA
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 No.178317

>>177359
Perhaps Corbyn shouldn't have abandoned his principles and position on the EU that he'd held since the 80s?
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 No.178365

>>178317
Imagine being surprised that a bourgeois politician is an opportunist.
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 No.178374

>>178250
He literally wrote and starred in a show about cooperativising a North-West city as an idealistic socialist cllr. (look up Blackout).
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 No.178840

>>178374
Sounds pretty based, anywhere I can watch it as it's not on iPlayer
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 No.179243

>>178317
Perhaps Leavers could have swallowed their pride and compromised like a grown up?
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 No.179594

>>179243
It's not a compromise when you're voting for a party who want a 2nd referendum on their own deal, you fucking dolt.
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 No.179606

>>179594
That is exactly what a compromise with the Remainers is moron.
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 No.179621

The myth of ‘stupid’ Brexit voter undone by study that discovers affluent and educated ‘Comfortable Leavers’ actually won the day
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/521525-brexit-voter-stupid-myth-comfortable-leaver/
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 No.179636

>>179621
>russia today

Also just because someone is well off doesn't mean they aren't dumb old boomer retards. In fact I would say the two are positively correlated.
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 No.179646

>>179606
That's surrender not compromise you gosh darn RETARD
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 No.179661

>>179646
Of course it does to a diehard oozed Leaver. Lmao then what would a compromise look like to you?
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 No.179669

>>179621
Affluent and educated people can be stupid too…

But at least you admit that Leave not Remain was a middle class delusion.
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 No.179816

>>179661
You don't compromise when you win a referendum you nonse. Remoaners just have to get over it.
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 No.179820

>>179636
>RUSSIA TODAY
Soy. reddit. go back. etc.
>boomer meme
flag
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 No.179824

>>178194
What exactly is this?
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 No.179837

>>178250
>The deciding factor is that it is payed work..
hahah. The only time i ever heard someone in entertainment be honest. based mfer.
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 No.179843

>>179824
6 Prem clubs have decided to join a breakaway European Super League where no one else can qualify for and no one can be relegated from. It would also mean players in the league can't play for their national side (about 12 of our national team I think). This is an incredibly shitty move backed by JP Morgan, as its essentially a monetary investment by rich club financiers and JP morgan, which will probably cause the bankruptcy of loads of clubs down the league tables. Its inflamed the bubbling resentment fans have had for money in sports for decades. We're seeing footie fans who, generally speaking, can be pretty reactionary talking about kicking money out of football. There's even rumours of Boris J bringing in fan ownership of clubs… a Corbyn policy. Unironically this crisis will bring more class consciousness than Labour could hope to
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 No.179868

>>179837
Yee lmao

Apparently his politics is also pretty based lmao
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 No.179877

>>179843
thanks anon. I have been avoiding the UK news because of the old funny guy died and this kind of blind-sided me when I seen the german style being one of the proposals. How is the left agitating with this?
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 No.179921

>>179816
>cry about something not being a compromise
>can't even describe a hypothetical compromise
Lmao what a joke.

>Remoaners just have to get over it.

If anything the Remoaners are laughing at whatever bad things that happens to the UK. Farmers getting screwed over? Brexit lmao. People losing jobs? Brexit lmao. Fishermen complaining about sales? Brexit lmao. I genuinely real class solidarity cannot be built precisely because Remainers can't sympathize with the Leavers. and I don't blame them
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 No.179922

>>179921 (me)
>I genuinely real class solidarity cannot be built precisely because Remainers can't sympathize with the Leavers
I genuinely think that real class solidarity cannot be built precisely because Remainers can't sympathize with the Leavers
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 No.179992

>>179877
not much… and sorta good cause the leftists I know who are agitating for this care shit all about football so it comes across very opportunist. Luckily the situation is pretty cut and dry in terms of rich vs 'the common man'
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 No.180005

>>179606
>a compromise is when you entirely give up your position
Idiot. A compromise would be leaving the EU but with certain terms attached, e.g. specific customs agreements. Not voting to have another referendum so that you lose your position.
Especially when the party proposing to have a referendum will have absolutely no leg to stand on in Brexit negotiations - since the EU can force any shit deal they like, as they know it will be going to a referendum.

Really not a hard concept to grasp.
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 No.180030

remember when change UK voted against the customs union because they wanted to remain in europe but now we don't even have a customs union with europe as a fallback

hahahahaha
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 No.180035

>>180005
But the EU is and will always force any shit deal to punish UK for leaving, referendum or not.
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 No.180062

>>180030
>remember change UK
No, I'd prefer not too
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 No.180075

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>>180062
come on lad remember when they ate at nandos
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 No.180086

>>180075
Bet all of them had lemon and herb except for that one twat who tried to look all hard with an extra-hot and sat there holding back tears all night.
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 No.180137

>>180086
To be fair, you have to be a bit of a madlad to go for extra hot lmao
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 No.180149

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>>180086
>>180137
Psh, any Mexican worth their salt could drink that texmex shit
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 No.180188

>>180149
Damn, I'm totally not gonna get a Carolina Reaper and eat it raw lmao
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 No.180227

There is no worse chat than brexit I literally do not care
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 No.180229

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2gxApv6iJ8
FANS PROTESTING OUTSIDE OF CHELSEA FOOTBALL STADIUM
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 No.180232

>>180229
Someone fire up the Cytube
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 No.180240

>>180229
Chelsea are pulling out lmao
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 No.180246

>>180240
I thought Liverpool was?
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 No.180285

>>180246
Chelsea and City from what i've heard
It's dead
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 No.180545

BASED
>WOODWARD RESIGNS FROM MAN UTD
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 No.180552

>>180545
>BREAKING NEWS: Chelsea to WITHDRAW from European Super League
Well. Look like the fuckers a stillborne.
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 No.180557

Arsenal Fan TV are pushing for the German Model of club ownership, good shit.
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 No.180565

>>180557
Same idea is getting mentions on Liverpool live fan TV rn.
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 No.181570

>>179921
>If anything the Remoaners are laughing at whatever bad things that happens to the UK
Are you laughing about how you helped sink Corbyn's election too? Because your friends at People's Vote are.
People like you always whine that Brexiters chose Brexit over socialism, when considering they won a referendum it is you that chose the EU over socialism. You've been trying to weasel out of the blame your collective actions for almost two years now, I bet it must make you seethe that the narrative hasn't stuck outside of your greatest allies, the centrist melts.
>>179922
>I genuinely think that real class solidarity cannot be built precisely because Remainers can't sympathize with the Leavers
In reality Remainers spent years fighting to stop Labour getting into power, any look at the PV campaign backers would show that to be the case. You crawled into bed with the likes of Wes Streeting because you're a fucking moron, and you continue to pretend otherwise because you're a coward.
You're right that it's funny that the UK is getting trashed, but that's because it's filled with dim self righteous cunts like you from top to bottom.
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 No.181618

are we still pretending Labour actually had a Brexit position

"Ohhh but they asked for a second referendum and that's a remainer shibboleth!!!"
yeah now ask yourself how the a second referendum was going to go. if anything it was pro-Remain to not hold one since that spared ardent europhiles the ritual suicides that would doubtless have followed the revelation that Britain had voted to leave by an even bigger margin despite 2-4 years of a practical demonstration of why it's not a good idea to let British politicians run their own affairs, use metal scissors, or indeed sit in any room with sharp corners.
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 No.182292

Stop talking about brexit. It actually doesn’t even matter
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 No.182309

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Official club of /leftybritpol/?
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 No.182332

>>181570
Oh please, the Leaver cries as he strikes you. Literally voted for everything but Labour and then trying to blame on Remainers. Don’t accuse me of going to bed with Sterling when the likes of you went with Farage and Johnson.

Labour (and by extension the North and the poor) lost because Brexit won. Get over it.
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 No.182334

>>179921
Imagine coming on an obscure leftist forum like leftypol and being a remoaner
The EU is quite literally a capitalist institution with private property enshrined in its constitution and the EUs literal function is to act as a Union for the capitalist class - turning areas that used to have thriving industry (ex-soviet and ex yugoslav blocs) into pools of cheap labour to be used to subjugate and weaken the powet of labour in the imperial core
And when the EUs integrity was threatened it had no problem kicking the fuck out of 80 year old catalan grannies or blasting the eyes out the heads of yellow vest protestors

I have to ask why you're even here… Given how even the previous generation of succdem libs (Corbyn, Tony Benn et al) were anti Eu… Do you consider yourself a socialist?
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 No.182337

Also the whole dictonomy of EU and socialism is fucking retarded since people already don’t want socialism. So how the fuck is EU going to stop UK from doing something they don’t want to do. Better to have elected Corbyn, watch EU try to stop him from doing based things and then leave using that as a pretext.

But noooooo UK has to leave now for a hypothetical Leave that doesn’t even mean the same to all of them. That’s why you get morons on the news crying about how ‘This isn’t the Brexit I signed up for’ like a moron.

>>180557
I hope it doesn’t happen just to see their tears.
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 No.182339

>>182334
I am not a remainer idiot. I just wanted a Corbyn led government, Remain or Leave. 2019 had the Leavers betrayed him, and I will never forget that.
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 No.182346

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>>182339
What leavers betrayed him?
Corbyn was a leaver his entire life and the people that betrayed him were the wrecking remoaners that worked to lose an election
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 No.182350

>>182346
Oh sure internal party wreckers didn’t help but the shift in the voter base from 2017 to 2019 was pretty clear. If anything the Leavers gave the party over to the wreckers. Congratulations.
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 No.182354

>oooooh le brexit oooooooh
The U.K. was shit before it joined the EU, it was shit during the EU, and it is shit now after leaving and will continue to be shit until we have a socialist movement orders of magnitude stronger than the current one.

Caring about brexit is just idpol noise.
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 No.182357

>>182354
>idpol
Why don't you ever use your brain
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 No.182362

>>182354
>The U.K. was shit before it joined the EU

It litterally wasn't you fuckin nonse, before joining the Eu we where the closest a country in western europe has come to socalism
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 No.182367

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>>182350
You have a poor understanding of British politics anon
Corbyn won a decent amount in 2017
During the period of 2017-2019 wreckers and useless remoaners forced Corbyn into a position of essentially rejecting Brexit - into demanding something like the Swiss or Norway deal
It was only during the European elections of 2019 that Farages hastily assembled Brexit Party won the most vote share and most seats in the European Parliament that the remoaners in the Tory party realised they better Brexit properly whilst Labour stuck to their "we'd do some Norway style deal or something" and forced a lifelong Brexiteer like Corbyn into being a mealy mouthed remoaner - a position the country had already democratically rejected at the ballot box but rejected again at the European elections
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 No.182368

>>182357
What could be more idpol about it? The country divided on a literally meaningless cultural debate between da propa wurkin class landlords and le ebil softy students (which doesn’t actually represent either side but such is idpol). The choice between European or American financial assistance servitude framed as independence or internationalism both of which are false.

>>182362
Ahahahahaha. What because we had a newish NHS which had not quite been cut back yet we were close to socialism? Fucking being British is a brain disease of the highest order. We were a declining empire still engaged in all manner of fuckery all around the world particularly in India and Africa. We had a post war Keynesian poomp which promptly turned into a wet fart and then shitting in our collective drawers. Literally the entire time we have been buddy buddy with the CIA and oh yes, during the great post war years we established the state of Israel
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 No.182370

>>182362
>It litterally wasn't you fuckin nonse, before joining the Eu we where the closest a country in western europe has come to socalism
Sorry anon but this is real crackhead hours
The Labour Party has always, always been a capitalist and pro imperialist party that was as good at presiding over Empire as the torys ever were
I recommend you read Harpal Brars Social Democracy - The Enemy Within for an entire book worth of history damning the labour party as a pro-imperialist capitalist party
https://shop.thecommunists.org/product/harpal-brar-social-democracy-enemy-within-1995/
(It's not on libgen sadly)
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 No.182373

>>182370
Dare I say it.. based pashmina merchant…
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 No.182374

>>182367
And then we go back to the original argument of what a compromise between Remainers and Leavers would even look like. So far none of the Leavers ITT bothered to answer me and instead whine about the EU. You people are more anti-EU than pro-socialism.


Regardless of his Brexit policy, Corbyn had to try to appease both camps. Ideally his economic policies (and some reform about regionalism) should have held the coalition together. But of course some people were too pozzed to unite behind their class.
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 No.182389

>>182373
I don't know why we go over this everytime when discussing a prominent Marxist but philosophy 9 times out of 10 comes out the petit-booj or bourgeois class as those classes are the educated ones as well as having the time and freedom to indulge in deep learning and philosophy.
Engels was the son of a literal factory owner.
>>182374
>You people are more anti-EU than pro-socialism.
Well yes… As I've already explained the EU has private property enshrined in it's consitution and you can't nationalise industry inside the EU.
There is 0% chance of building socialism in the EU. Ergo the first battle is to leave the EU. How is this hard to understand?
> original argument of what a compromise between Remainers and Leavers would even look like.
>Regardless of his Brexit policy, Corbyn had to try to appease both camps.
There is no compromise with remoaners. They lost in 2016 and right on the eve of Brexit in 2019 the public gave the Brexit Party the most seats and most votes.
There is only one way to interpret that and that's remoaners should get BTFO'd
Corbyn did not have to appease both camps but he was forced into this because Labour has become increasingly a cultural party of the cosmopolitans in the city centres rather than the working class of the country and it's petit-bourgeois vacillation reflected this (and attempt to appease is what lost him the election)
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 No.182393

>>182389
Because it is a false dichotomy. I already said in>>182337, the first battle is to elect a socialist and dare EU to stop you. All this whining about hypotheticals about the EU can do to stop you isn’t on par with the very real suffering from a Tory government.


>There is no compromise with remoaners.

Then this just prove my point that you are anti-EU far more than pro-socialism. I have nothing more to say to you.

Add this L (Football reeeeing) for the Leavers. Many more to come.
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 No.182409

>>182393
>the first battle is to elect a socialist and dare EU to stop you. All this whining about hypotheticals about the EU can do to stop you isn’t on par with the very real suffering from a Tory government.
How you gonna elect a socialist that outright refuses to implement what was voted on years ago and what the other party has already said they would implement?
Lmao, this is why many working class people voted tory last time
>Then this just prove my point that you are anti-EU far more than pro-socialism. I have nothing more to say to you.
The question of socialism/nationalisation or anything remotely progressive cannot be brought to the table by any 'elected' government until UK has left the EU
Socialists don't just want Corbyn to be the one issuing austerity whilst the labour party continue to privatise the NHS
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 No.182425

Are people stanning Boris now that he had a say in the cancellation of the ESL? What a disappointment?
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 No.182433

>>182409
You can when said socialist will at least try to do socialistic things.

>Lmao, this is why many working class people voted tory last time

So what? Working class people are suffering now and losing their Football clubs as they should.

>The question of socialism/nationalisation or anything remotely progressive cannot be brought to the table by any 'elected' government until UK has left the EU

You are having the whole thing backwards. EU isn’t stopping UK from being socialist, the innate UK people’s aversion of socialism is stopping them from being socialist. Once the latter is solved, the former won’t matter.

Hell this shitty logic isn’t even applied consistently. The Labour Leavers are disgustingly silent with the recent news about the monarchy, and not agitating for republicanism. Surely the monarchy( and HoL) is a equal if not bigger opposition to socialism than the EU?

But of course you and I both know the ugly truth, that the section of the populace that is anti-EU is pro-monarchy and you all are too much of a fucking pussy to step on their toes.

Of course I am not saying that forcing a republic or an independent UK would make socialism any more feasible, because the only thing stopping socialism from happening is the people. You have to foster the class struggle so much that people are willing to abandon the monarchy and the EU for it, not abandon the EU (while quiet on the monarchy) hoping to foster class struggle in the people.
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 No.182508

That Laurence Fox twat is tied with meme candidate Count Binface for mayor of London, kek.
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 No.182527

Alba Manifesto = Green party watered down sans trans +strong indy. In a nutshell.

Its got
>encouragement of co-operative sector
>pretty radical democratic reforms, establishment of a second chamber in parliament the "citizens assembly", establishment of localised democracy
>"right to food" basically making starvation illegal, along with 2 free school meals a day for kids and other measures
>all the stuff we are used to seeing from more or less everybody now about creating new green jobs including a "scottish national renewable" corporation basically a big state run renewable energy building company. Roadmap to electrification of transport system.
>community wealth building initiatives
Tbh, it sounds like basically the Preston model applied to the whole of Scotland + Hard Indy.

in terms of the trans issue they have said they want a citizens assembly on the GRA.

All in all, yeh lets be real this is mostly extremely based, basically doing Green politics but its Alex Salmond not Patrick Harvey so le white male will actually give it a chance. Even the GRA citizens assmebly is sort of probably what is actually needed on the issue, a real national conversation that is not just twitter shiting. (I imagine given how big the gay community is in scotland this would swing in favour of trans rights)
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 No.182530

https://www.albaparty.org/where_we_stand

here is it, and yes, i think I have swung back to probably voting for them
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 No.182532

>>182389
Its not the fact hes a rug seller which is why I don't like him and tbh I agree on rug sellers with more things than the CPB, but the party suffers from a sloganeering mentality and isn't really involved in any real organising (which the CPB is )
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 No.182557

>>182362
>before joining the Eu we where the closest a country in western europe has come to socalism
dubious.
Sweden had us beat with Wage Earner funds (albeit later on) and the Heath government that brought us into Europe was busy doing a bunch of free market experimentation. (They introduced competition and credit control, the long-and-short of which is that it was a more free market form of lending which wound up sending inflation sky-high when the oil crisis hit.)

Europe didn't ruin Britain, if anything Britain ruined Europe. (Which otherwise would've been dominated by based French Dirigisme)
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 No.182572

>>182389
>Corbyn did not have to appease both camps but he was forced into this because Labour has become increasingly a cultural party of the cosmopolitans in the city centres rather than the working class of the country and it's petit-bourgeois vacillation reflected this (and attempt to appease is what lost him the election)
This analysis has one problem: The working class in this country is nowhere near a large enough voting bloc to win unless sneakily redefined to include those self-same cosmopolitans, given most of them also primarily work for a living.

Labour sucked up working class votes like Tory nonces suck up blood money in every election from 1945 to 2015, it still spent the majority of its time out of government because you need ~320 seats to win and there aren't 320 majority working class constituencies.
Look at the 1951 election: Attlee won the popular vote - he actually got more votes than in 1950 and 1945! - and he lost the election because he was just increasing his majority in working class areas, rather than winning extra middle class seats.
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 No.182593

>>182508
I hope Count Binface gets more votes than him lmao

>>182530
Sounds pretty based
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 No.182701

>>182433
>EU isn’t stopping UK from being socialist, the innate UK people’s aversion of socialism is stopping them from being socialist.
Right but the question at the time was whether the country Brexited or not (ie. left the EU). It wasn't "let's educate more people on socialism" or a vote on "whether the monarchy should continue"
>You have to foster the class struggle so much that people are willing to abandon the monarchy and the EU for it, not abandon the EU (while quiet on the monarchy) hoping to foster class struggle in the people.
It was about the EU
You seem to want to have had the country vote on something other than the EU at the time.. Good luck with that
>>182572
>This analysis has one problem: The working class in this country is nowhere near a large enough voting bloc to win unless sneakily redefined to include those self-same cosmopolitans, given most of them also primarily work for a living.
As long as imperialism continues to bring crumbs to the table for the Labour aristocrats in the UK they will continue to vote for opportunist Social-democrats and liberals. Blairites fully control the Labour party now so even if the working class voted them in this is hardly a win for socialism and the only thing that will change is that labourite in a red rosette will be administering austerity and privatising the NHS (like they did under Blair/Brown)
When the proles in UK have been "re-proletarianised" (which is happening as we speak) they will move on from social-democracy the primary enemy of socialism and will start building a working class party that will overtake Labour overnight (much in the same way the French socialist party when into single digits after Hollande or Syriza/Podemos came out of nowhere despite being riddled with traitor succdems as well)
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 No.182750

>>182701
>Right but the question at the time was whether the country Brexited or not (ie. left the EU).
No it wasn't. The question was whether such agitation and purity against the EU is worth forsaking Corbyn. I am not talking about just the referendum, but the agitation and antagonism created to start the referendum, and to follow through the whole Brexit.

>You seem to want to have had the country vote on something other than the EU at the time

Silly me to think that a general election should be about general issues. Sage is right, the discourse around EU is pure idpol.
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 No.182752

>>182332
It is your fault and socialists will never let you forget it, liberal melt.
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 No.182760

>>182701
yeah that's what this country needs, fucking Syriza.
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 No.182769

>>182760
We've already got PASOK, it's time to build our collection.
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 No.182784

>>182374
>And then we go back to the original argument of what a compromise between Remainers and Leavers would even look like. So far none of the Leavers ITT bothered to answer me and instead whine about the EU
I did retard
see >>180005
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 No.182791

>>182784
And I already said that the EU doesn't give a shit whether there is a second referendum or not. It has to give UK the worst deal possible to punish it for leaving, not to scare UK to come back.
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 No.182796

Holy fucking shit it was literally 5 years ago. It’s done. We voted out. Drop it. Shut up. Talk about how cool Alba are
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 No.182799

>>182791
But how is that relevant to the compromise?
And it is a rather basic analysis, since obviously the EU relies on the UK for services. Whilst they would want us to have a bad deal, and clearly have the upper hand, they can't afford to shoot themselves in the foot 'too' much.

Knowing it would go to a second referendum means they are not in danger of shooting themselves in the foot, it wouldn't pass. Labour weren't even confident in their own hypothetical deal, imagine what they would have looked like once actually finalising a deal.
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 No.182801

>>182796
Alba think the gays are plotting to legalise paedophillia anon…
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 No.182802

>>182796
their manifesto is pretty cool
if they don't get in we should scrap devolution
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 No.182807

>>182791
>And I already said that the EU doesn't give a shit whether there is a second referendum or not.
Were you dropped on the head as a child? The point is that Labour were never going to win offering a second referendum, which was always an excuse just to remain in the EU. Which you fucking know.
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 No.182809

>>182801
One candidate. Find me a party without some crank roaster in it please. It’s hardly party policy.

>>182802
I’m not following sorry
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 No.182811

>>182799
>Whilst they would want us to have a bad deal, and clearly have the upper hand, they can't afford to shoot themselves in the foot 'too' much.
Yes they can. They are more than happy to cut themselves to make UK bleed.

Do you even realize what is at stake here? The whole unity of the Union itself. You think Lincoln made it easy for the South to leave and wasn't prepared to spill North's blood? A similar struggle is in play. EU has to make UK suffer by any means to save itself.

>>182807
>The point is that Labour were never going to win offering a second referendum,
Win the general election of the second referendum?
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 No.182816

>>182809
It was their official party conference anon, and they didn't even condemn it, and they have like what 12 candidates?
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 No.182820

File: 1619021617952.gif (2.44 MB, 320x229, accelerationist.gif)

London now unemployment capital of UK as jobless rate hits 7.2%
<London has become the unemployment capital of the UK — a stark example of the toll COVID-19 has taken on the region that drives the highest proportion of GDP in the UK.
<London's unemployment rate hit 7.2% in the three months to February 2021, according to new figures released by the Office for National Statistics on Tuesday morning. The capital's jobless rate was the highest in the country.
<All regions saw a rise in unemployment but London saw the largest jump, with an increase of 2.7 percentage points. The capital's workforce decreased by 60,000 in just the final 3 months of 2020, the ONS said.
<The figures compound worries about a possible collapse in London's economy sparked by COVID. Many fear there could be an exodus from the capital, as people look for cheaper accommodation with more green space amid working from home orders.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/london-uk-unemployment-payroll-labour-market-figures-united-kingdom-ons-covid-19-coronavirus-093429024.html
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 No.182821

>>182807
>which was always an excuse just to remain in the EU.
except that it's delusional to imagine that Remain would win a second referendum.
for remainers a 2nd referendum was an excuse to remain built on copium and delusion. for Labour as a whole it was a desperate attempt to avoid actually taking a position in the hopes that they could slip through unscathed.

(this is literally what they did in 1974 when they won on a manifesto commitment to hold the first nationwide referendum in UK history, because the labour movement itself was terribly split.)

>>182809
if alba don't get in then the voters can't be trusted
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 No.182826

>>182820
Summer of discontent man.
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 No.182828

>>182801
>>182816
The whole thing was a non-issue caused by people acting in bad faith.
Is Stonewall lobbying to lower the age of consent? No. Did they sign a terribly drafted document which any lay-reader would interpret as urging governments to let adolescents consent to sex? yes.
But why say "Look we weren't going to read 200 pages of nonsense with a fine tooth comb before signing it, it just said 'rights' on the cover…" like an honest organization when you can whip up a storm, especially one that advantages a governing party which provides you with public funds?

In the internet age there is nothing to be gained from correcting misconceptions.
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 No.182830

>>182811
So I don't understand your point?
You seem to be putting the argument to one side and just saying how we should have remained in the EU.

If you are a remainer then fair enough, but it is patently clear that the remain position undermined Labour's electoral chances - which is the topic at hand.
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 No.182832

>>182828
>Is Stonewall lobbying to lower the age of consent? No. Did they sign a terribly drafted document which any lay-reader would interpret as urging governments to let adolescents consent to sex? yes.
What? Lol, please post the passage.
The absolute state of Scottish politics
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 No.182837

Theory: Scotland has a more communal culture because all of its ruthless capitalists went to america and canada.
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 No.182838

>>182830
> just saying how we should have remained in the EU.
Holy shit, is your brain so idpozzed that you can't think without it?

My point is that a) A second referendum would not alter the EU's approach to Brexit in any meaningful way b) Any position Labour should have will statify no one and should not impacted its electoral chances if the whole country isn't idpozzed on Brexit and c) Brexit would not encourage socialism anyway, but electing Corbyn to do socialistic things and then have EU stop him would be a better impetus to Leave.
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 No.182853

>>182832
https://iwhc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Beijing-25-Feminist-declaration.pdf
Includes the two lines:
>14 a. Eliminate all laws and policies that punish or criminalize same-sex intimacy, gender affirmation, abortion, HIV transmission non-disclosure and exposure, or that limit the exercise of bodily autonomy, including laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents, people with disabilities or other groups to provide consent to sex or sexual and reproductive health services or laws authorizing non-consensual abortion, sterilization, or contraceptive use;
>14 g. End the criminalization and stigmatization of adolescents’ sexuality, and ensure and promote a positive approach to young people's and adolescents’ sexuality that enables, recognizes, and respects their agency to make informed and independent decisions on matters concerning their bodily autonomy, pleasure and fundamental freedoms

The intention is almost certainly to let teenagers have sex with each other within similar age range (not with geriatric Tory peers) and to consent to sexual health services, but with the way it's written it's hardly an unforgivable sin for a lay-reader's nonce alarm to go off.
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 No.182871

>>182838
>A second referendum would not alter the EU's approach to Brexit in any meaningful way
Why? I have given you a reason why it would alter their approach, and your counter is just that they would be happy to give us the worst deal imaginable regardless. Yet we can see that the fact we got a deal that doesn't involve us giving blood sacrifices for the privilege of speaking with the EU indicates the EU were not going to completely sabotage themselves to spite us. It's really disingenuous to claim there is no difference between the position we were in, threatening to leave with no deal, and what Labour were offering, a chance for the people to reject a deal.
Giving us a poor deal (and making us look bad) is one thing, but they were not going to give us a deal that actively damaged the EU along with us - certainly not when there was a danger all sides would actually have to stick to the agreement. There has been no sign it was ever going to be the case.

>Any position Labour should have will statify no one and should not impacted its electoral chances if the whole country isn't idpozzed on Brexit

Perhaps an election shouldn't have even been called for in the first place then? If Labour couldn't satisfy anyone, then why on earth did they give the Tories an extra 2+ years in office?

You also seem to be ignoring that the country was obsessed with Brexit for a good reason - it is the most significant event in our modern political history, and was all that was discussed for about 4 years. The fact Labour chose to act like there was any other issue to base their electoral campaign around was obviously foolish.
Corbyn actually did really well in all the interviews he gave on TV, the only exception being when he was talking about Brexit - it was clear Labour were not confident in their own plans. Not being confident on the one issue on everyone's minds was disastrous, which was easy to see even at the time.

>Brexit would not encourage socialism anyway,

Baseless to think so, if a general election hadn't been pushed for we would have had no more than 3 years of Conservative Brexit before Labour could have been elected - and fundamentally changed our course.

>but electing Corbyn to do socialistic things and then have EU stop him would be a better impetus to Leave.

We were in the EU for over 40 years, this referendum was quite clearly a once in a life time opportunity.
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 No.182900

>>182871
>The fact Labour chose to act like there was any other issue to base their electoral campaign around was obviously foolish.
it wasn't necessarily. the closest precedent for anything like 2017 was in 1974, where Labour won precisely by avoiding taking clear positions on key issues. heath wanted an election on the issue of trade union power, he got an election about everything but trade union power.
it's more than possible to see the 2017 election as an endorsement of that constructive ambiguity. May said it was an election about brexit, Corbyn said it was an election about health, education, welfare, investment, even a weirdly helpful bit of anti-terrorism, but a brexit policy that just said "uh yeah we'll do something good :)" against a government that expected to go "We'll do a proper brexit, Labour will give you brexit in name only."

there are only three timelines where it's possible that any good came of brexit for Labour in the medium term: the timeline where they somehow won in 2017, the timeline where 2017 went as it did for us but then Labour quietly put a few unpaired MPs on a trip to Cuba allowing May to pass a deal and stay on for an election in the early 2020s, and the timeline where peter shore and bryan gould were labour leaders rather than very poorly performing labour leadership candidates
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 No.182923

>>182871
>Yet we can see that the fact we got a deal that doesn't involve us giving blood sacrifices for the privilege of speaking with the EU indicates the EU were not going to completely sabotage themselves to spite us.
The deal with EU is pretty terrible all things considered, at least in the minds of the people who voted for it.

>Perhaps an election shouldn't have even been called for in the first place then?

IIRC They didn't voted for the snap election, but was strongarmed to it by the Lib Dems who really thought they could win.

>The fact Labour chose to act like there was any other issue to base their electoral campaign around was obviously foolish.

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>Baseless to think so, if a general election hadn't been pushed for we would have had no more than 3 years of Conservative Brexit before Labour could have been elected - and fundamentally changed our course.

Ironically yes.

>We were in the EU for over 40 years, this referendum was quite clearly a once in a life time opportunity.

No it fucking wasn't. You think this referendum fell from the sky. People agitated for it and got it. There is no reason to assume such agitation can't happen when very real legislation is blocked by the EU.
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 No.182976

>>182923
>The deal with EU is pretty terrible all things considered, at least in the minds of the people who voted for it.
It could have been much worse. Nobody was ever going to be happy with the deal, and it was certainly never going to be an immediate gain for the UK.

>but was strongarmed to it by the Lib Dems

They had 12 seats after the 2017 general election

>2 0 1 7

Yes, back when Labour were not opposing the result of the referendum

>No it fucking wasn't. You think this referendum fell from the sky. People agitated for it and got it. There is no reason to assume such agitation can't happen when very real legislation is blocked by the EU.

There has been agitation for 40 years, you know the left in Labour were vocal about their discontent with the EU right back in the 70s right? UKIP was founded in 1993.
Hell, if you've even watched British TV you can see that the EU was always a topic of discussion - it's mentioned quite a few times in Peep Show for example.
40 years of agitation before a referendum - it was clearly a once in a lifetime opportunity.


>he got an election about everything but trade union power

I didn't live through 1974. But is it really comparable to 2019 - where the only news story for 4 years had been about the key issue, which came about after a direct vote by the people?
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 No.183008

>>182976
>It could have been much worse
Meaningless statement from someone who talks about blood scarifices.

>They had 12 seats after the 2017 general election

So? They were and still are delusional.

>Yes, back when Labour were not opposing the result of the referendum

They absolutely were, they were just super vague on how they were going to oppose it. It was genius marketing really.

>40 years of agitation before a referendum - it was clearly a once in a lifetime opportunity.

So what? If EU actually does try to stop Corbyn from doing anything, it would be 40 days. The problem it took this long because no one knows what things does EU prevent UK from doing, and still don't with how many farmers and fishermen are reacting to Brexit.
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 No.183039

>estimated 300k hong kongers will come to britain in the next 5 years
<400k chinese already living in britain
Calling it now, it's going to be Ugandan Asians all over again: except this time you are going to have Hong Kongers fight with pro-PRC chinese.
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 No.183046

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Why are they like this now? Is it just drugs (ketamine and heroin) that so heavily dented that scene or is it something else?
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 No.183048

>>183039
Fucking 300k Guangsanos
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 No.183052

>>183048
If they all start voting tory I swear down.
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 No.183055

>>183052
They will, they will bitch about socialism constantly too.
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 No.183059

>>183055
Tbf they may be redpilled on the land question. Also they all know how to protest properly kek.
I remember tho in Manchester, there were protests and counter protests between Hong Kongers and PRChinese up here.
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 No.183067

>>183039
I'm sure that will help the housing crisis.
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 No.183070

>>183067
It's in such a shit state I doubt it will have a serious impact. Pissing in an ocean of piss.
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 No.183072

>>183055
How do we know that is true? My local chippy has a CCP flag and gives me free things when i wear anything remotely commie.
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 No.183074

>>183072
Because they won't be immigrants who came from Hong Kong to avoid the PRC
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 No.183080

>>183074
It only says that 400k living here. People move for lots of reasons anon, I doubt politics is top of the list for most.
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 No.183081

>>183074
>>183072
See this is the thing, I think they will end-up getting into the fights with the chinese already here.
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 No.183082

have all HKers move to the isle of wight and give them a devolved assembly.
boom: it's already the biggest parliamentary seat by population and a safe tory seat. literally nothing changes except we get a cool little hong kong off our coast where a bigger country can't come along and say "that's mine now"
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 No.183084

>>183082
This but actually send them all to Northern Ireland: desectarianise the place by having loyalists and republicans fight over if to get egg fried or special rice.
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 No.183085

>>183070
Good point. It'll probably only affect the PMC anyway, most Hong Kongers coming over will be rich af.
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 No.183087

>>183048
>Guangsanos
Heh

>>183072
Based Chinese chjppy

>>183082
Why not the Malvinas instead lmao
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 No.183091

>>183084
A CHALLENGER APPEARS!
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 No.183351

Rumours from my mate is that the Liverpool Fans' org Spirit of Shakley is trying to coordinate with other supporters' group to push for fan ownership across the premiership. Good shit comrades, good shit.
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 No.183419

>>183008
>So?
Imagine being strong-armed by 12 liberal democrats. Was this really the peak that the Labour party reached last decade?
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 No.183452

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>>183419
are we just going to admit that the Labour party split again and that the Liberal Democrats polling got uncomfortably close to Labour's in mid-late 2019 (in like 2 polls they were even the leading party!)

the ugly reality is that if Labour had adopted a more unequivocally pro-Brexit position it would've failed with the public because the party wasn't trusted on the issue and because Labour MPs would openly say they disagreed with it and wouldn't vote for it, it would've failed with the party and possibly lead to a few more defections and a lot of angry internal motions by the overwhelmingly pro-remain membership, and as a result of both of those it would've failed to materialise as government policy.
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 No.183527

>>183452
>and because Labour MPs would openly say they disagreed with it and wouldn't vote for it,
Which of course raises the question of why the left wing in the UK were so pathetic they allowes their voices to not be heard.
Most of the public do not know leaving the EU is also a left wing stance.
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 No.183533

>>183452
>Labour MPs would openly say they disagreed with it and wouldn't vote for it, it would've failed with the party and possibly lead to a few more defections and a lot of angry internal motions by the overwhelmingly pro-remain membership, and as a result of both of those it would've failed to materialise as government policy.
Glad we came to an agreement that the remainers were wrecking at every opportunity.
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 No.183709

The NIP is probably going to collapse because Black, brown and Southern Irish people have stepped in and said its white nationalism and comparing the North to colonialism (even though they never said that).
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 No.183748

>>183709
lol I remember some Irish retard sperging out at them about that ages ago
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 No.183765

>>183748
Yeah they're doing ti now. I don't even really support the NIP despite being from the North because I do agree it is essentially one bourgeoisie complaining about another when they're both bastards but its pretty funny none of these people apply that to Scottish or Northern Irish independence and even begin wheeling out hyper-conservative arguments such as that the North "benefited" from colonialism and don't that capitalism isn't actually so so bad in their case so they should shut the fuck up. Isn't it wierd how the contradictions of capitalism suddenly seem to melt away when a movement someone doesn't like happens and the capitalists go from exploiters to generous benevolent benefactors throwing money onto the street for the simple minded comfy working classes to snatch up and lay about.
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 No.183788

>>183709
tedious whingers
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 No.183797

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>>183765
I'm not sure if NIP are based or cringe but I'm leaning towards based given how much piss they boil.
I found the threads and it looks like the NIP saw them off
https://twitter.com/mothleton/status/1370764793737515012

https://twitter.com/FreeNorthNow/status/1371044229947002880
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 No.183842

File: 1619054102164.png (572.65 KB, 1007x521, bradley-bush.png)

>>183797
>You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets
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 No.183952

>>183419
The SNP also wanted a snap election.
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 No.183956

>>183527
>Most of the public do not know leaving the EU is also a left wing stance.
Because the EU isn't stopping the UK from doing anything left wing. I already gave the same comparison with republicanism.
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 No.184631

>labour are advertising cringe on FB
>it’s literally all negative comments
Fucking can’t wait till they get BTFO
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 No.184641

>>183797
>picrew av alert
what does that even mean
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 No.184643

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 No.184647

>>184646
WHAT DOESE IT MEAN
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 No.184648

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 No.184649

>>184648
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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 No.184651

>>184643
>>184646
>>184648
Posting this garbage should be a bannable offe se
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 No.184652

File: 1619083212511.png (284.6 KB, 600x600, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.184727

XR have to be a Met front right? there's no way they're that fucking stupid.
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 No.184751

>>184727
They have horizontal leadership and open meetings. It's so easy to infiltrate that it's basically a met front whether it was set up by them or not.
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 No.184756

>>184751
>horizontal leadership
The heck does this even mean?
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 No.184761

>>184756
There are no official leaders, nothing has to be checked with anyone else. Local XR operate as autonomous groups reporting and awnsering to no one centrally. There are no standards for being a member of XR or being an XR group.
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 No.184767

>>184761
How can this be true when leaders like Hallam actively discourage members from talking about capitalism?
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 No.184772

>>184767
Because they're the ones with social media clout, they have no position of authority.
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 No.184773

>Alex Salmond raises prospect of direct action of independence referendum is not given

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/alex-salmond-alba-independence-referendum-b1835083.html

Things are getting awful based in here
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 No.184775

>>184767
>>184772
The tyranny of structurelessness. I used to be part of an anarchist collective. Me and my boys actually ran the thing even though it was “consensus based direct democracy” cos we had the most social clout. That’s how it works
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 No.184776

>>184641
Picrew is a website you can use to make avatars of yourself, its popular with terminally online LGBT people. Those pics are example of avatars made on picrew
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 No.184782

In an independent Scotland picrew will be considered like child porn
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 No.184873

>SNP majority has shrunk and it will have to rely on greens to form a government
Ohohoho

BASED

How’s your Tory govt looking Engleeesh peeegs?
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 No.184885

>>184873
That's literally the status quo atm you dolt.
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 No.184995

>>184885
SNP have a majority now. If you don’t like the SNP you should be happy with them losing it.
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 No.185032

File: 1619104580230.png (79.35 KB, 433x589, ClipboardImage.png)

>>184995
They don't anon.
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 No.185155

>>185032
tbf at the moment with the greens outside formal coalition they basically act like a majority government, knowing the greens will slavishly back them 99% of the time.

if they enter a formal coalition with the greens the greens would be lib-dem tier crazy to not demand the death of north sea oil as their coalition price, and if they do that then the SNP's disingenuous pretending that the 2014 white paper is still on the table will have to end and a new independence plan presented. (something the SNP leadership wants to avoid.)
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 No.185291

The CPB isn't standing a single cllr candidate in England, despite that being their best chance of getting elected representation. Why?
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 No.185700

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynf2W6EcGgc&t=93s
Fun fact: Enoch Powell spoke Welsh.
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 No.185888

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File: 1619134152791-1.png (652.37 KB, 604x569, shrekt.png)

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 No.185892

>>185888
BREAKING: UK Parliament unanimously declares the Chinese government is committing a Genocide against Uyghurs.

The UK joins the US, Canada and the Netherlands in declaring a #UyghurGenocide.

This is the first time a genocide declaration has passed the UK Parliament unopposed.
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 No.186456

George Galloway delivers barnstorming speech on Scotland's security in the Union
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 No.186557

File: 1619164763613.jpg (52.87 KB, 1242x1193, weirdchamp.jpg)

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 No.186587

>>186456
For some reason I watched this, it's very strange to watch competing nationalists squabble over their equally irrelevant national myths. Galloway rightly blasts the SNP for obsessing over feudal battles gone by but then goes all in on WW2 nostalgia which is almost equally irrelevant.
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 No.186588

Happy Saint George's Day.
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 No.186598

File: 1619168570984.png (108.53 KB, 1438x699, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.186789

File: 1619179515359.jpg (60.5 KB, 600x480, Screenshot_2.jpg)

I chuckled
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 No.186862

>>186789
Why? We must reclaim the english flag. There is far more revoulutionary history and potential in England, than in this disgusting imperialist conception of Britain. Which is niether anglo or Saxon brought about it. norman bourgeois nonsnece. England is proletarian and anti-imperealist., Britain is bourgios and impeirialist
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 No.186864

>>186862
skitzo moment
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 No.186865

>>186862
stop day drinking
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 No.186875

Northumberland Longridge Towers School strip club teacher banned
His actions included:
>Drinking with pupils
>Allowing one or more pupils to drink alcohol despite being under the legal age of 18
>Threatening to "kick the head in" of one pupil and "kill" another
>Telling one pupil: "I'm not in trouble - you'll be in trouble"
>After being aggressive to one pupil, he kissed the boy's forehead and told him "you're all right"
>Taking one or more pupils to a strip club
They reported him for this to dire for banter! Imagine! I am so disappointed in modern british children, anons. This man should be teaching PhD class in absolute madladery and instead they fired him. ofsted is a disgrace.
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 No.186878

File: 1619183870465.png (156.78 KB, 328x478, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.186879

>>186875
Incredible.
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 No.186880

>>186862
mostly based
(but the most based incarnation of these energies are in English regionalism rather than English nationalism, curiously.)
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 No.186883

>>186880
English regionalism is normally inclusive: scousers being mostly irish for example.
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 No.186889

File: 1619184371716.png (1.91 MB, 1318x2048, 1619184356456.png)

The SDP candidate for Hartlepool has a tank. Will this change anything?
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 No.186898

>>186889
Big dick move, I respect it.
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 No.186901

>>186889
Can he even drive it around?
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 No.186905

>>186862
>English distancing themselves from their British past.
A*glos are a mistake
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 No.186907

>>186901
I think he was in the army so he probably can
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 No.186934

>>186907
As in it is legal/allowed for him to drive around?
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 No.186939

>>186934
Looks fairly light and has number plates so I guess so. There are videos of them driving around cities to get to events.
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 No.187031

>>186905
There is nothing Anglo about the British empire. If anything it’s a Saxon-Norman institution
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 No.187038

>>186862
How about the Chartist flag instead lmao

(That or put socialist iconography on the English flag and fly that instead)

>>186901
Yee lmao
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 No.187044

I will not be reclaiming any flag, I will be smashing it all to bits Yugoslavia style. Slava Lancashire bitches!
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 No.187045

6 People just got let off from XR who smashed up windows in 2019, despite the judge saying there was no legal defence for 5 of them to the jury. Based jury acquittal there.
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 No.187248

File: 1619197773946.png (1.76 MB, 1682x998, ClipboardImage.png)

>>186588
Multikulti, anti-/pol/ day
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 No.187253

>>186862
Norman saw on English oak.

On English neck a Norman yoke;
Norman spoon to English dish,
And England ruled as Normans wish;
Blithe world in England never will be more,
Till England's rid of all the four.
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 No.187257

>>187248
I mean the guy was an ethnic greek, christian, soldier in the Roman Empire at a time when being the second was illegal. If that doesn't sum up the contradictions that England is I dont know what will
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 No.187263

>>187257
Nah mate he was English and loved Queen Liz
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 No.187627

File: 1619208734222.png (255.32 KB, 579x417, le poggeres.png)

>qt grill at the shop didn't charge me for half my beers
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 No.187632

>>187627
I call that a big fuckin w
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 No.187724

>>187627
The only time this happens for me is the old dears in greggs. Well done lad
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 No.187730

>>187632
>>187724
I just pretend it's deliberate, I can't figure out how she got the number she charged me with what I bought, but my ex used to undercharge people she liked all the time so I will continue to act like that's what happened.
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 No.187752

>>187730
It’s probably the big giant commie chin you have which has a tendency to knock out pensioners and users of 4chan pol when you turn quickly and unexpectedly that did it.
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 No.187768

>>187752
Well she could have been distracted by my massive bulge (caused by my large penis)
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 No.188032

There were protests at Emirates Stadium tonight. I like this new trend of footie fans protesting it's based.
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 No.188054

>>188032
It’s not a new trend but yes it is based
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 No.188071

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 No.188075

File: 1619218626634.png (562.14 KB, 600x400, ClipboardImage.png)

>>188032
>I like this new trend of footie fans protesting it's based.
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 No.188082

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 No.188083

>>188075
Liverpool is a bit different/
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 No.188135

>>188082
North Hungary
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 No.188153

>>188071
Honestly, I fucking hate Gunners. It seems every piece of shit on the internet supports Arsenal. It's absurd Corbyn is a supporter, because every other I've seen anywhere online seems to be the absolute dregs of the UK. Frothing at the mouth and cumming in their pants at an excuse to celebrate their betters in the Tories and shit on anything good the country has. I didn't think it was possible for a football club to be so consistently full of total gobshite wankers on every platform, it's Racism FC tier they're such insufferable Tory cunts. I legitimately hate them.
I live nowhere near the club so maybe it's different offline, but every internet Gunner needs to be fed into a woodchipper.
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 No.188484

File: 1619235281162-0.jpg (146.75 KB, 1080x1080, ycl st george.jpg)

File: 1619235281162-1.jpg (91.33 KB, 2084x2084, VOTE cpb.jpg)

Is there anyone here involved with the CPB or YCL?

Also, what are people's thoughts on the two, particularly their shared programme 'Britain's Road to Socialism'?
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 No.188506

>>188153
>it's Racism FC tier they're such insufferable Tory cunts.
like 2/3 of every arsenal fan i see is black.
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 No.188756

>>188484
I think a couple of people are, I know a good bunch of them IRL.

They are basically a reformist social Democratic party who are staunchly anti imperialism, their road to socialism has barely changed in 100 years. They have a problem with wizened old 1970s radfems and should support independence for Scotland but do not. They have over corrected on the idpol question and now do starmer tier stuff with flags etc but generally a decent bunch of yoofs doing some good work in places, more of a presence in trade unions etc than the carpet merchants
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 No.188776

>>188506
>>188153
Yeah this, Chelsea are the racist club in London (well ofc Millwall too). Like a lot of Gooners are like commuter belt wankers, but most of their london base is pretty black, just because of where the club is based.
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 No.188781

Does anyone have any UK politics documentaries they'd recommend?
As someone who knew little about Labour pre-2000s, I found this 4 part series 'The Wilderness Years' really enlightening - focusing on Labour whilst the Tories were in power during the 80s.
Is there anything else you would recommend, that focuses on key political figures and policies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovuyPrffiqg
[Uploaded by a Thatcher fan, but the documentary is actually really good]
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 No.188829

File: 1619260676241.png (1.14 MB, 956x556, ClipboardImage.png)

lamo livingston met with Chavez as london mayor
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 No.188832

>>188756
>They are basically a reformist social Democratic party
I am inclined to agree.
Still, for THE communist party it's really a pathetic stance to take.
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 No.188840

>>188829
Livingstone was always based
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 No.188847

Demo at Old Trafford at 3pm. It appears we have a national, anti-capitalist football movement.
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 No.188851

>>188829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu1Jy5gmsK0
Holy shit, Chavez, Ken, and Maduro in 2006.
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 No.188883

>>188851
Ken was actually so based. Now I’m reading Lenni Brenner books I realise just quite how red pilled a mayor of London we used to have
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 No.188908

File: 1619265258750-0.jpg (1.59 MB, 1947x1513, img_1633.jpg)

File: 1619265258750-1.jpeg (100.63 KB, 579x480, Peter-Kennard-GLC-Peace-Y….jpeg)

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>>188883
imagine trolling the prime minister so much she literally abolishes the top tier of local government for the capital city of the country in the hopes of making you fuck off

then when the leader of your own party conducts 7 satanic rituals to transmute her evil powers onto himself and reintroduces a similar tier of government but rigs the selection process against you, imagine creating your own independent campaign and BTFOing him so hard that he has to let you back into the party.

a story in pictures.
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 No.188977

File: 1619269977088.mp4 (2.17 MB, 434x360, Risitas Laughs (360p_30fps….mp4)

>in June 2004 he was quoted on The Guardian's website as saying: "I just long for the day I wake up and find that the Saudi Royal Family are swinging from lamp-posts and they've got a proper government that represents the people of Saudi Arabia",
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 No.188983

“Tories for yes” are instructing their followers to vote ALBA in the lists. Apparently 15% of Tory voters voted yes last referendum and the bloc they have formed in the Tory party is telling them to vote Tory 1 Alba 2.

>inb4 Nazbol memes
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 No.188984

>>188977
>>188908
A king among men, Ken
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 No.188994

>188983
>“Tories for yes”
I wonder, what's their game in supporting independence?
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 No.189022

>>188983
That isn't even nazbol, that's just, fuck I have no idea what the fuck that is.
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 No.189024

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>>188908
Always loved this chad move.
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 No.189047

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3erCptiyFRY Old Trafford Protest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvR-0wK3wBc Anti-Lockdown Demo London
Can someone get a cytube set up for these? Klash is never up at this time of day.
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 No.189049

>>188908
did he not fuck up after he returned tho?
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 No.189054

>>189022
>>188994
Just bog standard conservative nationalism I believe. Although the “Tories for yes” want back into the European single market and ultimately the EU seems to be their main schtick. Even half the Tories up here are just Lib Dem’s with autism
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 No.189151

>>188484
Are these the guys trying to get rid of the age of consent?
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 No.189249

>>189151
No that's the CPGB-PCC.
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 No.189252

>>189049
not as far as i know. i don't think he was as based as when he ran the GLC (acting more "responsibly") but i wouldn't be surprised if he's the best mayor london's had so far. his loss in 2008 seems more down to Labour falling back nationally and Johnson running a good campaign, and in 2012 he improved his position from 2008 (despite still losing) so voters must not've felt he was that bad.
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 No.189255

>>189252
Livingstone was a hardworking Mayor but he didn't really do much that a socialist would push in the year of our lord 2021. He was more a competent manager than anything, also the Olympics was his shit and he got cucked out of it by Boris: same for the Bikes.
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 No.189258

Oh yeah, and Livingstone actually had a close relationship with Blair: Blair frequently invited him to Cabinet meetings (obviously, the Mayor of London is not meant to go), and he would always come in through the back entrance so the press didnt find out.
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 No.189262

File: 1619285100859.png (719.83 KB, 576x941, ClipboardImage.png)

From outside the Utd game today. Never gonna stop being funny that Americans get furious over people burning their flag.

https://twitter.com/UtdXclusive/status/1385984258305576961
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 No.189264

>>189262
Sanctions incoming for Greater Manchester
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 No.189277

>>189262
BASARDO
Tbf I am getting a lot of anti-capitalist sentiment from these football protests, even the Chelsea one had anti-cap signs. I am thinking we are heading into a very fun zone indeed.
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 No.189307

>>189258
This is not based. Further question though I actually dunno about: was Blair a Zionist or just a zionist?
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 No.189484

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Pigs in MCR got guns for a Kill the Bill demo.
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 No.189580

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File: 1619294512079-1.jpg (427.54 KB, 1536x2048, flagburn.jpg)

>>189262
>>189277
Shame the owners backed down tbh
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 No.189627

>>189262
>this is how wars start.
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 No.190606

File: 1619347546097.png (620.9 KB, 917x763, ClipboardImage.png)

How will the tories achieve the 78% emission cut they just promised Biden ?
Shipping the rest of the industries overseas?
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 No.190851

Man imagine have a dead lock on an election to leader of 8m people, and Labour put up Sadiq Khan what a damp rag.
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 No.190855

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>>190606
THey'll probs just close the coal and gas plants, UK emissions are through the floor anyways
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 No.190993

File: 1619365932658.png (33.06 KB, 557x286, ClipboardImage.png)

Cringe
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 No.191001

>>190993
Darren Grimes is legit the worsr right wing culture warrior in terms of content. Even worse than Rubin
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 No.191012

>>190993
>Buying 'Strayan wine to "own the reds"
inb4 the Chinese start buying up 'Strayan Vineyards lmao
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 No.191060

File: 1619368961767.png (1.25 MB, 576x1024, ClipboardImage.png)

>>191012
>>190993
Remember lads the socialist drink of choice is Havana club rum. The profits of which fund the Cuban government. Their white rum is the best cost to quality proposotion of any widly avalible spirit.
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 No.191293

File: 1619381462089.png (410.27 KB, 564x711, ClipboardImage.png)

BASED???
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 No.191299

>>191293
Communist party of Britain seems to be a wierdly elite club. Like they have alot of notable memebers relitive to there size
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 No.191302

>>190855
The issue will be transport/infrastructure though. Energy is only part of the puzzle, updating the railways, homes, roads etc is going to be a much bigger challenge (imo) than restructuring energy production. I've become a lot more optimistic in recent years about climate change, but I do worry about how willing governments will be in tackling pollution related to general living rather than shutting down coal mines that no one has any particular interest in.
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 No.191446

>>189484
This is pretty fucking nuts tbh although seems a bit like posturing

>>191293
>>191299
It’s a little bit sus really
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 No.191595

>>191446
>This is pretty fucking nuts tbh although seems a bit like posturing
People saying this is the standard armed police you will find in the centre of a city but still…
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 No.191597

>tfw i live just on the wrong side of a ward boundary to vote for the Communist Party
Shame, they won't win regardless but it is better than protest voting for the greens…
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 No.191608

>>191595
>standard armed police in city centre
English really are peeegs

Only cope with guns on the reg here are in airports and sometimes the train stations on busy days
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 No.191926

File: 1619405603020.jpg (52.65 KB, 288x499, why contain it.jpg)

https://archive.is/wtyCx
<Boris Johnson: 'Let the bodies pile high in their thousands'. PM's incendiary remark during fight over lockdowns is latest claim in No10 drama - amid spectacular row with Cummings
>Claims that Boris Johnson said he would rather ‘bodies pile high in their thousands’ than order a third lockdown
>Allegedly came after Michael Gove warned soldiers needed to guard hospitals
>Downing Street has strongly denied that the Prime Minister made the comment
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 No.192101

>>191926
that was my first thought too, Boris Johnson was a deus ex player
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 No.192107

File: 1619422540075.jpg (66.68 KB, 680x449, deus ex cups.jpg)

>>191926
Jesus christ
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 No.192125

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 No.192153

>>187031
Lmao what why are you separating the angles from the saxons they are basically the same thing.
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 No.192169

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>>192153
Anglo and Saxon are completely different. Anglo is proletarian, saxon is immperialist. This imperialist ethic has been supercharged by norman invasion and rule from above
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 No.192180

>>192169
They are both germanic tribes that arrived in Britain at the same time and displaced the Britons. I'm also pretty certain that most the Anglo-Saxon settlers were Jutes anyway.
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 No.192192

>>192169
This sounds like some blood and soil bullshit.
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 No.192199

File: 1619433145097.jpg (33.87 KB, 500x329, shitposting.jpg)

>>192169
are you autistic?
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 No.192201

Poor Jutes, always forgotten.
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 No.192225

>>192169
>germanics colonised Britain and displaced the native population

“The haft of the arrow had been feathered with one of the eagles own plumes. We often give our enemies the means of our own destruction.”
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 No.192329

>>192225
Why do I feel like i've just discovered archery.
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 No.192347

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 No.192355

>>192201
Nonsense, nobody could shut up about them back when Jeremy Corbyn was doing his daily anti-semitic rants at Labour press conferences.
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 No.192368

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 No.192371

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>>192355
>Nonsense, nobody could shut up about them back when Jeremy Corbyn was doing his daily anti-semitic rants at Labour press conferences.
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 No.192397

>>192368
"jutes" sounds a bit like "jews"
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 No.192475

IT'S DA JUTES!!!
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 No.192476

>>192397
I've been away for too long and I've lost my ability to understand socdem flags sophisticated sense of humour.
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 No.193175

Anyone heard/read anything about the "Breakthrough Party"? They claim they are demsoc but I can't find much meat about them.
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 No.193184

>>193175
>breakthrough party
Nick Land must be getting back into his speed habit and needs some donations.
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 No.193192

>>193184
Alternate reality where Nick Land takes the place of Dominic Cummings and Mark Fisher replaces Jeremy Corbyn.
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 No.193200

>>193192
Techno 4th English Civil War.
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 No.193345

>>193175
>Anyone heard/read anything about the "Breakthrough Party"?
First I've heard of them lmao
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 No.193347

>>193345
Seems like every niche party/group gets mentioned here first.
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 No.193355

File: 1619483442107.gif (134.83 KB, 500x236, lotr.gif)

>>193347
"The world is changed. I can feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, I smell it in the air, another Trotskyite split has happened." ~ /leftybritpol/ user
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 No.194840

Can someone please give me a rundown for the Manchester council elections? Anyone outside of the major parties worth considering?
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 No.194857

>>194840
Theres one communist standing, id vote for them in that constituency. Otherwise probably vote green just to put some pressure on labour
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 No.194861

>>194840
There's a single communist running in Longsight but apart from that, nah.
As for Mayor, the only one not from the major parties is an anti-lockdown independent, a local business man that wants to reduce fines, and an English Democrat.
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 No.194874

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/arlene-fosters-time-as-dup-leader-coming-to-an-end-as-75-of-her-mlas-sign-letter-of-no-confidence-3216112
Arlene Foster’s time as DUP leader coming to an end as 75% of her MLAs sign letter of no confidence
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 No.195093

TUSC are sure running a lot of people this time, I wonder if the trots will boost off corbynites.
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 No.195499

>>194874
It might not be over yet, she could find a foster home
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 No.195545

File: 1619552340775.jpg (58.95 KB, 926x620, blair.jpg)

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 No.195678

>>195499
booooooo
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 No.196126

File: 1619562658754.png (312.86 KB, 806x1279, mayor material.PNG)

>>194861
>As for Mayor, the only one not from the major parties is an anti-lockdown independent, a local business man that wants to reduce fines, and an English Democrat.
Aren't you forgetting someone?
https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/person/76991/alec-marvel
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 No.196234

>>195545
>necromancy may be legal in Westminister, but few will openly admit to practicing it now that the TUC has banned it! Farewell"
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 No.196238

>>195545
Rebranding to Tony Mullet
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 No.196241

In this hypotethical scenario of mine you have two and only two options.

You either join the CPGB-ML;
Or you join a tenant union.

What do you do? Again, no third option.
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 No.196247

>>196126
FEMBOY MAYOR
femboy mayor
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 No.196251

File: 1619564498481.jpg (232.91 KB, 1920x1080, David-Icke-Coronavirus-Epi….jpg)

>>195545
Embracing the Icke-look. How long before he outs the lizards in the moon?
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 No.196263

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>>196238
>>196251
The mullet has already made a comeback in Yorkshire though. He should update it.
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 No.196269

>>196241
tenant union
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 No.196429

>>186905
Would you rather we embraced it? Want your shit flinging village to be plundered again Rajesh?
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 No.197594

>>196241
Tenant union x 100000000000
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 No.197623

>>196241
CPGB-ML

There is no such thing as a tenants """union"""". Since you are not able to withold labour its not a union. Its a consumer advocacy group.
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 No.197648

>>197623
Okay Labour member
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 No.197653

>>197623
If you withhold your wages as rent you are refusing to work for your landlord.

Also, for where did this definition come from that a union is specifically a body to withhold labour?
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 No.197655

Mother's Union are withholding the titty from ungrateful babies
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 No.197682

File: 1619603802372.png (572.03 KB, 583x600, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.197702

>>196126
What the fuck did I just read.
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 No.197708

>>197682
kek
>>197702
The statement from Britain's first femboy mayor
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 No.197731

File: 1619605659715.png (366.24 KB, 651x1097, ClipboardImage.png)

Boris getting investigated for corruption by the EC, get hype this might get spicy (I seriously hope we have an eastern-euro style protest movement about corruption, would be p funny).
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 No.197735

>>197653
>If you withhold your wages as funkopop purchases, you are refusing to work for marvel

Can't wait to be part of the revoultionary funko pop union
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 No.197745

>>197735
Was the Highland Land League a consumer advocacy group??
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 No.197747

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File: 1619606077059-1.png (79.98 KB, 220x298, ClipboardImage.png)

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My favourite consumer advocacy groups <333
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 No.197764

>>197745
Not comparable as their labour was involved with the laned
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 No.197765

>>197747
It's just one of captain retard's bits to distract from the fact his whole strategy is joining Labour. Rather than making a convincing case for it he will shit on everything else.
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 No.197769

File: 1619606768241.png (15.07 KB, 231x218, ClipboardImage.png)

>NOOOOOOO MY CONSUMER ADVOCACY RENTERS ASSOCIATION IS REVOLUTIONARY. ALL 9 OF US STUDENTS STOOD AND SCREECHED OUTSIDE AN ESTATE AGENTS FOR 3 HOURS AND GOT A 40 POUND FINE RESCINDED
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 No.197775

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>NOOOOOOO MY CENTRE RIGHT BOURGEOIS PARTY HAS REVOLUTIONARY POTENTIAL. ALL 200 OF OUR MPS STOOD AND SANG THE RED FLAG ONCE AND LAUNCHED A SUCCESSFUL WAR AGAINST RIGHTIST DEVIATIONIST SADDAM HUSSEIN
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 No.197778

>>197653
You are not working for your landlord.
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 No.197780

File: 1619607147367.png (15.07 KB, 231x218, ClipboardImage.png)

>NOOOOO MY SECTARIAN CULT HAS THE TRUE REVOLUTIONARY LINE, HAVING ACHIEVED NOTHING IN FOR 100 YEARS MY GROUP OF 30 GERIATRICS WILL OVERTAKE THE LEFT PARTY IN A 2 PARTY SYSTEM.
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 No.197781

>>197778
Put your flag back on retard, you're the only one that has this autistic definition of union that can't be found anywhere outside of your cope fuelled posts
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 No.197782

>>197778
40% of income in the UK is paid to landlords: to literally live you need to be paying economic parasites.
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 No.197783

>>197782
You are still not working for your landlord.
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 No.197784

File: 1619607240907.jpg (85.16 KB, 680x764, vooter.jpg)

>>197780
>PARTY IN A 2 PARTY SYSTEM
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 No.197785

>>197782
It's like saying you work for the supermarket when you buy your food their, lmao.
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 No.197787

>>197784
I've never even voted except for internal labour party elections
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 No.197789

>You aren't getting us any closer to socialism with your tired tactics
<then we will organise around tenants as landlordism is a foundational part of british capitalism
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE LABOUR PARTY
Sasuga leftybritpol
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 No.197792

>>197789
You could remove landlords and Britain would still be capitalist. You nonse. Also, Acorn as a tenants union doesn't even engage in anti-landlord action, they just fight for the enforcement of pre-existing laws and renters arrangment.

Futher I don't encourage voting labour.
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 No.197795

>>197781
>consumer union
Ah, yes, I remember the greats of the labour movement talking about those. Personally I prefer to boycott Nike shoes, I heard they use child labor. I'm also advocating for occasionally stealing a Snickers from Tescos.

Consumers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but unethical business practices!
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 No.197796

>>197792
>You could remove landlords and Britain would still be capitalist
Except the world isn't a fucking video game so you can't just press the "remove landlords" button you spastic.
>Futher I don't encourage voting labour.
So your sole strategy is for everyone to join Labour but not vote for them. You really are a prodigy.
>>197795
Put your flag back on.
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 No.197797

>>197796
>Put your flag back on.
I don't work for you! In fact, I'm unionizing against you right as we speak!
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 No.197801

>>197797
Nice spelling
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 No.197802

My sister's last boyfriend was such a jackass. Luckily I was able to convince our mutual friends to unionize against him, and guess what, they broke after not long after.

Sister Tracing Friendly Union (STFU).
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 No.197803

>>197796
>>197796
>Except the world isn't a fucking video game so you can't just press the "remove landlords" button you spastic.

So you admit defeat, you have no point.

>So your sole strategy is for everyone to join Labour but not vote for them. You really are a prodigy.


This is the best and most historically successful strategy.
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 No.197807

>>197803
>So you admit defeat, you have no point.
You have no point you retarded Labour gimp. You shill for a party of landlords and business owners and decide it's time to get technical the moment something outside of that cucked cesspit comes up about how "AKSHUALLY tenants aren't inherently proletarian, Elon Musk could be a renter!"
>This is the best and most historically successful strategy.
Video game brain
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 No.197808

>>197735
Yeh because you are forced to buy funko pops or be homeless of course
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 No.197809

>>197807
Tenants aren't inherently proletarian, Elon Musk could be a renter.

Carrot buyers aren't inherently proletarian, Elon Musk could be a carrot buyer.
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 No.197810

>>197809
Okay. Sorry Sage ruptured your asshole, burger.
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 No.197811

File: 1619608399746.png (189.24 KB, 687x617, 1.png)

>>197807
>>197809
Elon Musk is confirmed for being "inherently proletarian."
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 No.197813

>>197810
Sage isn't inherently proletarian, Elon Musk could be Sage.
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 No.197815

>>197811
>gets within touching distance of the point
>flies right past it
Anglo box
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 No.197816

>>197807
>You have no point you retarded Labour gimp. You shill for a party of landlords and business owners

Adhomenin point discarded and my oponion of you lower -10

>decide it's time to get technical


Well yes, when we apply revolutionary science we must always be technical

>AKSHUALLY tenants aren't inherently proletarian, Elon Musk could be a renter!"


That was not my point, but is actually another great point against the potential of revolutionary tenants associations.

>Video game brain


So, once again you have no point. It is historically in this country by far the most effective strategy.

You have been found lacking
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 No.197818

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 No.197820

I haven't been visiting this thread since us leaving .xyz. I see it's still filled to the brim with literal booklets. It's still the fucking worst thread on the site. See you in a few months, I guess.

My condolences to actual comrades.
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 No.197823

>>197816
The most historically effective way of getting socialism is paying a bunch of landlords, bosses, glowies and zionists to do it for you. Any strategy other than this is a dated sect, any new strategy should be discarded for not dogmatically adhering to Leninist principles (please ignore Lenin's opinions on bourgeois parties and join my bourgeois party)
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 No.197831

>>197823
>The most historically effective way of getting socialism is paying a bunch of landlords, bosses, glowies and zionists to do it for you.

He's never head of factionalism or infiltration. Also there is litterally no other option than this in a 2 party system.

Also Lenin said it was the correct line to support labour

You have once again been found lacking
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 No.197837

>>197831
>He's never head of factionalism or infiltration. Also there is litterally no other option than this in a 2 party system.
Yes I've never heard of the strategy of the last five years that failed and will never get another chance due to the makeup of the PLP
>Also Lenin said it was the correct line to support labour
Vaush tier cherry picking, go fetch the document and we'll read it together
>You have once again been found lacking
You are a paid up Labour member and obvious recovering(?) Vaushoid
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 No.197841

>>197837
>Yes I've never heard of the strategy of the last five years that failed and will never get another chance due to the makeup of the PLP

Errrm Cringe moment. The last 5 years has shown infiltration of labour to be more succesful and effective than any other strategy.
>Vaush tier cherry picking, go fetch the document and we'll read it together
No thanks, ive got work to do
>You are a paid up Labour member and obvious recovering(?) Vaushoid
I've litterally never watched or heard of vaush outside of p[eople making fun of him.Also no argument

You have been found lacking thrice now
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 No.197842

>>197820

What is it about Sage that makes him absolutely enrage so many users on this site? kek
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 No.197845

>>197842
Tripfagging
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 No.197846

>>197841
>Errrm Cringe moment. The last 5 years has shown infiltration of labour to be more succesful and effective than any other strategy.
Cope. Corbyn was one of the last few people in Labour that could have led it towards socialist goals. You are clutching at straws and trying to present everything as cyclical when in reality as time passes everything that could make the process cyclical is systematically removed by right wingers and landlord MPs.
>No thanks, ive got work to do
Surrender accepted
>I've litterally never watched or heard of vaush outside of p[eople making fun of him.
Well I am making fun of you for the same reasons.
>Also no argument
Wasn't responding to one
>You have been found lacking thrice now
Okay baby Vaush
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 No.197847

>>197783
So you’re landlord gets your money for free, and lives off it, but you don’t work for him? Interesting.

>>197785
Which would be correct.
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 No.197854

>>197847
Based and social relationspilled
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 No.197858

>>197846
>Corbyn was one of the last few people in Labour that could have led it towards socialist goals.

So this guy was leader and the labour party and nearly able to take state power. ERRRMMM sounds like a better historical record than all non-labour left partys in the history of Britain
>You are clutching at straws
I wouldnt call nearly taking state power a "straw". Seems you are mad or foolish
>trying to present everything as cyclical
No Im not. The left faction that elected Corbyn is still in labour.
> cyclical is systematically removed by right wingers and landlord MPs.
Well you know how you stop this, joining labur and engaging in internal factionalism. Silly silly
>Surrender accepted
I have never and will never surrended
>Well I am making fun of you for the same reasons.
Ok…. bro its a bit deranged to just pull some random guy you know and say look your wrong your like my friend whose also wrong. This isn't an argument and is frankly cringe.
>Wasn't responding to one
You where
>Okay baby Vaush
Again just saying im like some guy you know is not and argument and makes you sound deranged.

Looks like you are lacking in multiple depatments
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 No.197859

File: 1619611097453.png (941.36 KB, 600x763, ClipboardImage.png)

>>197847
>Which would be correct.

Don't worry lads I've found the new revolutionary paper
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 No.197871

>>197858
>So this guy was leader and the labour party and nearly able to take state power. ERRRMMM sounds like a better historical record than all non-labour left partys in the history of Britain
Total denial of reality. The fact you couldn't even argue with it besides reiterating that it was still the best strategy without elaboration speaks for itself.
>No Im not. The left faction that elected Corbyn is still in labour.
Where is the person that would replace Corbyn? Why is your "powerful faction" totally unable to use that power?
>Well you know how you stop this, joining labur and engaging in internal factionalism. Silly silly
Literally no internal mechanism to do anything and you refuse to name any (because they don't exist)
>I have never and will never surrended
You said you had work to do so would not post the document, you are now posting saying that this was not a surrender. Post the document or stop denying you have taken the L.
>Again just saying im like some guy you know is not and argument and makes you sound deranged.
You are a Vaushoid.
>Looks like you are lacking in multiple depatments
You pay Zionists to slander you on television, you are the political cuck wanking in the corner as Starmer fucks your wife

The fact you are on the back foot with every single point and won't advance your "strategy" beyond reasserting over and over it's the best strategy is proof you are just a sheepdogging shill who wants a SpAd job.
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 No.197873

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>>197859
>Don't worry lads I've found the new revolutionary paper
Don't worry lads I've found the new revolutionary paper
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 No.197894

>>197873
I'm the only person in this thread who actually opposes the progress faction.
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 No.197900

File: 1619613659844.jpeg (138.67 KB, 788x1080, 5655FEAC-0123-4D71-943B-A….jpeg)

HEY, LEFTYANGLOPOLL, REMEMBER THIS!?!?
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 No.197909

>>197871
>Total denial of reality.
No it isn't a fact was stated about reality.
>The fact you couldn't even argue with it besides reiterating that it was still the best strategy without elaboration speaks for itself.
Its self evidently the best stategy, because it has had by far the most success both recently (Last 5 years) and historically (last 100 years)
>Where is the person that would replace Corbyn?
Richard Burgeon
>Why is your "powerful faction" totally unable to use that power?
They are. Futher growing this faction will increse there relitive power.
>Literally no internal mechanism to do anything
This is retarded and how I know your are a lumpen sperg. There are hundreds of internal mechanisms. NEC elections, local party candidate selections, local party board selections. ETC. All these are far more effecient and expedient strategys than anything else avalible outside the labour party.
>You said you had work to do so would not post the document, you are now posting saying that this was not a surrender. Post the document or stop denying you have taken the
No im not your slave, you google it.
>You are a Vaushoid.
Again appealing to some random guy, who i've never heard of. This is deranged.
>You pay Zionists to slander you on television,
Oh yes the 20 pound a year I give to labour truly greeses the wheels of international zionism. Also the only way to actually oppose this is to be part of labour and get these people removed from their jobs

>The fact you are on the back foot with every single point and won't advance your "strategy" beyond reasserting over and over it's the best strategy is proof you are just a sheepdogging shill who wants a SpAd job.


Some deranged headcannon. Also you are on the backfoot and have been found lacking once again.
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 No.197931

>>197909
>NEC elections,
Regularly rigged via expulsions
>local party candidate selections
Regularly rigged via expulsions

Great strategy, won't respond to the rest of your cope as that's the only meat in your post. Except:

>No im not your slave, you google it.

<Of course, most of the Labour Party’s members are workingmen. However, whether or not a party is really a political party of the workers does not depend solely upon a membership of workers but also upon the men that lead it, and the content of its actions and its political tactics. Only this latter determines whether we really have before us a political party of the proletariat. Regarded from this, the only correct, point of view, the Labour Party is a thoroughly bourgeois party, because, although made up of workers, it is led by reactionaries, and the worst kind of reactionaries at that, who act quite in the spirit of the bourgeoisie. It is an organization of the bourgeoisie, which exists to systematically dupe the workers with the aid of the British Noskes and Scheidemanns.
<We have also heard another point of view, defended by Comrade Sylvia Pankhurst and Comrade Gallacher, who have voiced their opinion in the matter. What was the substance of the speeches delivered by Gallacher and many of his friends? They have told us that they are insufficiently linked with the masses. But take the instance of the British Socialist Party, they went on. It is still less linked with the masses and it is a very weak party. Comrade Gallacher has told us here how he and his comrades have organised, and done so really splendidly, the revolutionary movement in Glasgow, in Scotland, how in their wartime tactics they manoeuvred skillfully, how they gave able support to the petty-bourgeois pacifists Ramsay MacDonald and Snowden when they came to Glasgow, and used this support to organise a mass movement against the war.
<It is our aim to integrate this new and excellent revolutionary movement—represented here by Comrade Gallacher and his friends—into a Communist Party with genuinely communist, i.e., Marxist tactics. That is our task today. On the one hand, the British Socialist Party is too weak and incapable of properly carrying on agitation among the masses; on the other hand, we have the younger revolutionary elements so well represented here by Comrade Gallacher, who, although in touch with the masses, are not a political party, and in this sense are even weaker than the British Socialist Party and are totally unable to organise their political work. Under these circumstances, we must express our frank opinion on the correct tactics. When, in speaking of the British Socialist Party, Comrade Gallacher said that it is “hopelessly reformist”, he was undoubtedly exaggerating. But the general tenor and content of all the resolutions we have adopted here show with absolute clarity that we demand a change, in this spirit, in the tactics of the British Socialist Party; the only correct tactics of Gallacher’s friends will consist in their joining the Communist Party without delay, so as to modify its tactics in the spirit of the resolutions adopted here. If you have so many supporters that you are able to organise mass meetings in Glasgow, it will not be difficult for you to bring more than ten thousand new members into the Party.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm
L.
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 No.197947

>>197623
The UK does not exist, the union of crowns cannot withhold labour
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 No.197951

>>197909
You're right, tenants unions are revisionist organisations. We must join the Labour party for when they declare a protracted peoples war.
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 No.198038

>>197951
There is no such thing as a Tenants ""union"" , so they can't be revisionists.

And yes if you want to operate politically, it has to be in or around the labour party.

Everything else is cope or larp

Btw all the leaders of ACORN are in the labour party.
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 No.198052

>>197778
the only practical distinction between giving your landlord your crops under feudalism and giving your landlord your money under capitalism is that the feudal peasant notionally had some security of tenure.
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 No.198061

>>198052
Well and the fact that the lord's land operated as a means of production. Kind of a massive fucking difference you dummy
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 No.198074

>>198061
the only thing it produced was resentful scotsmen
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 No.198080

>>197831
>He's never head of factionalism or infiltration
Which has quite literally never worked in Labour and which, when it worked in the SNP, worked only to make it a more effective nationalist party.
Your strategy is essentially insane whether you look at it in revolutionary socialist terms or in social democratic reformist terms.

>>197841
Labour wasn't infiltrated. The young people who joined up because of Corbyn weren't infiltrators, they were members of the public encouraged to join Labour by a man who has been a member of Labour since the age of 16. Viewing them as infiltrators is Blairite nonsense.
The small number of communist "infiltrators" were essentially irrelevant except as an occasional stick with which to beat the kids with.

If you want to go by practical achievements, Labour's most successful leader remains Harold Wilson or Clement Attlee, both of whom exist more or less firmly in Labour's non-revolutionary social democratic tradition, and what should "really" be fought for is to recreate the conditions inside Labour for a leader like them. (As opposed to a Corbyn in the Bennite tradition, which peaked with a cabinet minister creating a motorbike co-op and a very funny election result in 2017)

>>197873
Broke: Progress
Woke: A selection of Fabian Society papers that look at how we could reform the British economy in interesting ways.
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 No.198090

>>198061
So if I work from home, does it then operate as MoP?
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 No.198095

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>>198038
>Btw all the leaders of ACORN are in the labour party.
why does labour, the revolutionary vanguard party, accept the support of consumer advocacy groups
surely this needlessly distracts from their tireless efforts to seize the means of production
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 No.198098

>>198090
No because you aren't using the home to make anything. You could work from home in Starbucks.
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 No.198100

File: 1619621701393.png (10.75 KB, 255x255, ClipboardImage.png)

>>198095
>Why does acorn the revolutionary vanguard renters asociation put its effors in support of a borgeious right wing party. Surely this needless distracts from their tireless efforts to Screech outside estat agents asking for a 30 pound letting fee back
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 No.198101

>>198038
>There is no such thing as a Tenants ""union""
Anglo box level: Ascended
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 No.198103

Oh you're having a birthday party? Have you cleared that with the electoral commission?
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 No.198108

haha your organization only gives people on £74.70 a week £30 back, what a pathetic waste of time

you should join labour instead so that we can have great progressive achievements like the last labour government introducing work capacity assessments to torment and starve the disabled.
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 No.198109

>>198080
>Which has quite literally never worked in Labour

RETARD ALEART RING A DING DING

It has worked, labour has been lead by socalists twice in the last 50 years. Under Jeremy corbyn he was 2% away from becoming primeinster. This alone is a bigger achievment than all non labour leftwing efforts in this country.
>Your strategy is essentially insane whether you look at it in revolutionary socialist terms or in social democratic reformist terms.
No its the only workable stategy


Labour wasn't infiltrated. The young people who joined up because of Corbyn weren't infiltrators, they were members of the public encouraged to join Labour by a man who has been a member of Labour since the age of 16. Viewing them as infiltrators is Blairite nonsense.
DUH DOY , HES GOING RETARDED AGAIN

Oh so large members of the public joined labour to support a socalist candidate and leader. WOW Jeremy Corbyns efforts where so wasted. If they arn't infiltrators it just means large parts of labour are already socalist.
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 No.198112

>>198109
>socialists
>aren't advocating the abolition of the commodity form
Not really socialists then are they?
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 No.198113

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POV: you've just tried to undermine the labour party by supporting consumer advocacy
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 No.198114

>>197931
>Regularly rigged via expulsions

Yet the left one like 5 in a row outright and went 50-50 on the last round

Also left local candidates get selected all the time. This would be even easier if there where more left wingers in the party. Futher the people who rig these elections are chosen by the party leader. SO just win that election then no more rigging. Bretty eas

>Great strategy,

True
>won't respond to the rest of your cope as that's the only meat in your post.
SO you admit defeat

Also you got the wrong peice of lenin writing , try again
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 No.198115

>>198114
>Also you got the wrong peice of lenin writing , try again
<NOOOO YOU'VE QUOTED THE THING THAT MAKES ME LOOK SILLY NOT THE QUOTE MINED SEGMENT FROM A VAUSH VIDEO REFERENCING A BOOK I HAVEN'T READ
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 No.198119

>>198108
They don't do this systematically. They acasionly do some direct autism that sometimes succeeds. Futher it takes like 10 people doing it for hours. They would all be better just working and donating the cash rather than this moralistic nonsence.

Also, Acorn charges £8 pound a month to be a member. So you almost always lose over time.
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 No.198122

>>198115
I don't know who vaush is
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 No.198126

>>198109
>Under Jeremy corbyn he was 2% away from becoming primeinster
Standing against a candidate so socially inept she probably posts on /leftybritpol/ with a manifesto pledge to personally break the hips of everyone with dementia, before going on to a massive defeat in 2019. Worth £30 of anyone's money that.
>labour has been lead by socalists twice in the last 50 years
this is not the ringing endorsement you think it is. there is literally zero case for Wilson being elected or helped in any way by entryists, and to achieve this result you need to redefine "socialism" to mean "social democracy done properly"

>If they arn't infiltrators it just means large parts of labour are already socalist.

Perhaps it simply means that large numbers of Labour members didn't want to pick Northern Miliband, Woman Miliband or Girl Blair. I am not a mind reader Whatever their reasons for voting the way they did the evidence is clear:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(UK)#Result
Corbyn would have won an overwhelming victory with people who were members of Labour even if all registered supporters (i.e. people joining just to vote for him) had their ballots discounted.

You can play up Corbyn's personal socialist beliefs all you like, but neither the 2017 nor 2019 manifestos were socialist.
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 No.198129

>>198122
Yet you repeat his arguments ad nauseam and can't even source your own argument without whining someone is "quoting Lenin wrong" lmfao
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 No.198133

>>198129
I've been doing this for 2 years on here, I don't need to get my argument from anyone. Also read Tony Benn,
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 No.198137

>>198133
Can you explain why Lenin is wrong?
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 No.198138

>>198137
No because he agrees with me. You have to do that
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 No.198140

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Labour_Party_leadership_election_(UK)
reminder for those who don't know their labour history: until the 1980s members didn't have any say in who was the leader, only MPs got a vote. the idea that any leader in that period was picked by entryists is comical farce.
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 No.198148

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>>198140
Who do you think selected the MPs you nonse. Also you can infiltrate into being an MP
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 No.198152

>>198138
No sweetie, I've posted Lenin saying you're wrong with his own words from marxists.org, and you whined it was the wrong Lenin text (lmao). You living in your little Laboid fever dream insisting that he agrees with you doesn't make it a fact. You're free to find something from him agreeing with you, but you don't get to invent fictitious hypothetical Lenins.
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 No.198157

>>198126
>Standing against a candidate so socially inept she probably posts on /leftybritpol/ with a manifesto pledge to personally break the hips of everyone with dementia, before going on to a massive defeat in 2019. Worth £30 of anyone's money that.

So just a bunch of cope. This is still far closer and far more impressive than anything any non labour left org has done in this country in 50 years.

>this is not the ringing endorsement you think it is.

Yes it is. Again this is far more impressive than anything done by any other left org.

>Corbyn would have won an overwhelming victory with people who were members of Labour even if all registered supporters (i.e. people joining just to vote for him) had their ballots discounted.


So your saying it was infiltrated by people looking to vote for a socalist candidate
mmmmm……

>You can play up Corbyn's personal socialist beliefs all you like, but neither the 2017 nor 2019 manifestos were socialist.


Close enough. And again better than anything attempted by any other left org
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 No.198162

>>198152
Im not doing the googling. Its what Lenin said.
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 No.198163

>>198157
>socalist candidate
Doesn't exist because real socialists aren't reformists.
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 No.198168

>>198162
>Im not doing the googling. Its what Lenin said.
Okay so you admit that you don't actually know what Lenin said, just that you disagree with him on the one instance of his words being posted in this thread.
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 No.198171

At present, British Labourites very often find it hard even to approach the masses, and even to get a hearing from them. If I come out as a Labourites and call upon them to support Acorn against Landlords, they will certainly give me a hearing. And I shall be able to explain in a popular manner, not only why the Labour Party are better than the Tories and why the elected dictatorship of a Labour government is better than the dictatorship of Johnson (disguised with the signboard of "Getting Brexit Done"), but also that, with my vote, I want to hang Acorn in the same way as the rope hangs a hanged man.
- Lenin, probably.

>>198148
Michael Foot wasn't an infiltrator (indeed, he was a great Labour loyalist. Keep in mind he supported keeping the very-right-wing Healey as deputy leader when Benn launched a leadership challenge.) and he wasn't elected by infiltrators. He may have got support from MPs fearing deselection, but that barely factors.
He then went down to a dismal defeat and was replaced by Kinnock, a man who's very name is a metonym for selling out.
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 No.198176

>>198157
"We lost the best!" isn't impressive, call me back when you have some real achievements. If I want people who've got a box of could'ves, should'ves and would'ves, I'll talk to actual unironic social democrats. They make much more pleasurable conversation and have funny anecdotes about the failures of monetary targeting.
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 No.198185

>>198176
So then you have to say everything ever attempted on the left should be given up on in this country since none of it has succeeded. by your standard.
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 No.198188

>>198171
By your standard then almost no one is an "infiltrator", unless you join as part of some fucking cadre cult. you are just definition mongering
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 No.198191

Hey what kind of liberal is Jonathan Pie? It seems that he’s the Bill Maher type of liberal but for England.
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 No.198200

>>198185
I do not take the view that tenants unionism has failed in the way the others have. You laugh and mock and dismiss returning small sums of money to people, but that's a far better record than microparty cults (which take people's money, waste paper, and damage mental health) or the Labour party in our lifetimes. Tenants Unions, fundamentally, can point to a record of delivering the goods in a way that few other organisations can.

If Labour is going to take a turn for the better, as was demonstrated by existing members voting for Corbyn, it is likely to happen with or without your involvement. By all means jump on the bandwagon once it gets rolling (or don't, you'll probably break it.) but don't imagine for a second you can push Labour to do something it doesn't want to do from the inside. (and please for the love of god don't LARP like it's some kind of true socialist work. if your "socialism" is the co-operative social democracy of Tony Benn than so be it, but if you really really want to live in 1970s Moscow then do both yourself, your fellow "communists" and the labour party a failure by staying the hell away.)

>>198188
Trotskyists of all forms were infiltrators. Benn was an ordinary Labourite who suddenly took a swing left. Michael Foot was an old romantic Bevanite. Infiltration requires co-ordination.
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 No.198244

>>198218
>Fool they elected corbyn as leader despite the entire inside hating it.
No they didn't. Corbyn won an overwhelming victory among Labour members. These weren't people pushing leftwards and leftwards (see Diane Abbott's dismal performance in 2010), they were ordinary Labour members who picked the only candidate who was promising a change of pace. A large number of people who sat and stomached Iraq, stomached the civil liberties restrictions, stomached the austerity, stomached the compromise and utter lack of ambition of the Miliband era then went and voted for Corbyn. If you want to spend your days doorknocking for Rachel Reeves then be my guest, but don't expect a pat on the head.

And then in 2020 what happened? Even the people who'd joined in 2015-16 to vote specifically for Corbyn swung to backing Starmer.
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 No.198246

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>>198244
lol he deleted it, screencapped because I assume he will contradict it shortly
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 No.198247

>>198191
IDK who that is but he's bretty funny guy, joined the labour party, voted for corbyn and dunks on idpol students ho want our country to be as socially conservative as the USA. I'd say he was kinda based at least.
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 No.198252

(for those who don't really pay attention, yanks, etc: the nuance of "Labour members" is this: In 2015 Labour members were long term Labour members for the most part. People who joined Labour to vote for Corbyn weren't "Labour members", they were "registered supporters". As such Corbyn's victory was possible even with a relatively centrist electorate.)

>>198246
lyl
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 No.198324

>>198038
>only unions can be revisionist
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 No.198331

>>198100
Are you a landlord? Nobody claims that ACORN is a labour union and your weird attacks go beyond semantics
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 No.198339

>>198148
>Who do you think selected the MPs you nonse.
<infiltrating the electorate by voting
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 No.198396

And Arlene Foster is gone.
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 No.198647

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jpAAafzCo

real working mans food reviews, I have almost watched every episode now.
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 No.198679

>>196126
hope he wins
every governmental position should be held by femboys
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 No.199671

File: 1619667597282.jpg (95.29 KB, 640x591, Soyjackhappy.jpg)

>OMG KATE AND WILLIAM SO WHOLESOME 100
>Same person looking at photos of Markel and Harry.
>"OF COURSE HARRY JUST HAD TO RUIN EVERYTHING BY MARRYING A FUCKING FILFTHY FUCKING BIG BLACK NGGER!"
I know royal drama is libshit level stuff but why does black women get tory vooting boomers so mad?
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 No.199724

>>199720
> prime british beauty
null set
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 No.199757

>>199671
>I know royal drama is libshit level stuff but why does black women get tory vooting boomers so mad?
Because they are basically right wing version of leftypolers in the low levels of effort they are to bait and the daily mail, pierce morgan etc. makes a lot of money from such things.
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 No.200105

Holy fucking shit brocialist flag you are completely fucking stupid. You literally don’t understand how socialist power works.
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 No.200116

>>200105
Shut your foolish mouth
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 No.200119

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>>199671
We're talking about the country which brought the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand into existence, all countries with the same foundational premise of enslaving and genociding the more melanin-endowed. High tories are different only in the sheer amount of elitism they have while being some of the worst white supremacists in history, worse than America or the Nazis. Fuck the UK and its idols Winston "Britler" Churchill and Reagan's cocksucking whore Thatcher.
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 No.200127

>>200119
>High tories are different only in the sheer amount of elitism they have while being some of the worst white supremacists in history, worse than America or the Nazis.

Where/are they actually that bad? I know stuff like Rhodesia and South Africa sprung out of the Anglo menace, but I'm always surprised when anyone one ups Americans. Some of the things I see fellow Burgers posting about hispanic people like me is fucking weird, like there are people alive, today, right now in the US who secretly think even a primitive society is fundamentally incompatible with anyone darker than a brown paper bag
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 No.200128

>>200116
Literally everybody in this thread disagrees with your shit takes does that not tell you something or are you some kind of brain genius?
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 No.200134

Tbf it's worth noting that white supremacism in the colonies disgusted a lot of high tories in part because it was working class and because they believed an indian could be a good imperial. That's the thing about Britain, it was never a white supremacist state, because if you were white you could still be attacked in law and if you were brown you could be made a model imperial subject. This kind of nuance is why you get people like Priti Patel.
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 No.200188

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 No.200201

>>200128
He's like a depressing version of Leninhat but at least it gives socdem someone to play around with.
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 No.200247

>>200119
>all countries with the same foundational premise of enslaving and genociding the more melanin-endowed.
this is unfair tbh. NZ was founded on a treaty with Maori and always had the idea that they would be kept around. you can say the country was stolen from them if you want, but there was never any intention or practice of slavery, and if there was any intention of genocide it was purely cultural - not physical.
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 No.200293

>>200128
I genius
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 No.200322

Most people on here can’t handle being told the truth.
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 No.200325

>>200322
One person can't.
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 No.200338

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>Most people on here can’t handle being told the truth
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 No.200359

me, a white american living in the white flight suburbs built on top of the ancient indian burial ground using my computer made from the exploited labour of the third world proletariat while drinking a coca cola filled with the actual blood of latin american sugar farmers:
haha britain had an empire 60 years ago you don't get to have an opinion sweetie :)
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 No.200365

>>200359
The British Empire was objectively the worst civilization to ever exist, it defecated on the word of Christ before devouring communal existence and shitting out capitalism
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 No.200371

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>>195545
He looks like a low T Jesse Ventura
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 No.200374

>>200127
They are bad but only worse if consider that you need to add cowardice to the equation.
For every crime the Brit elites committed there was someone on the group doing it for them and those people are Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans etc.
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 No.200376

>>200365
So what about its offspring the US?
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 No.200379

>>200365
The USA is that civilization
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 No.200382

>>200365
take it up with America ltd, the present holding company. i'm just here to redirect calls.
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 No.200383

>>200376
>>200379
The US may be Satan but Britain is the Anti-God
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 No.200392

>>200383
> Britain is the Anti-God
based I love this country now.
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 No.200398

Britain is the anti-god and America is a Christian theocracy
(Of a new kind which does not necessarily require a belief in Christ. Christ's teaching has always been a barrier to the aspirations of the church, after all…)
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 No.200404

>>200398
lol it's literally the opposite, Americans worship money and America, if it is a theocracy it's a fully Pagan Theocracy
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 No.200416

>>200398
Capitalism is anti-god. There is no greater destroyer of faith, religion, and tradition than capital. All the most atheistic societies are the earliest adopters of capitalism.
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 No.200421

>>200404
when you have the protestant work ethic and redemption through faith alone, you have no need for the trinity.
(though it may be fairer to term them a post-Christian theocracy.)

>>200416
It is naive to imagine that capitalism destroys religion universally. often it merely transforms it. what is the American dream but religious doctrine?

no, America has not destroyed religion. America has imbued religion with vigor - why? because religion in America was subject to the evolutionary pressure of market forces, ever competing with itself, sect against sect against sect against civil religion against sect. in Europe most countries comfortably monopolised or duopolised the religious market with their established churches and designated second tier (CofE and Catholics in England, for example.) but in America with her notional combination of separation of church and state with religious freedom, market forces were set free to march everyone to Utah and have them marry their cousins.

(Meanwhile in Britain, the CofE practically went on the opposite path, becoming more and more a tepid branch of civil society - "Oh no, I'm not religious… I'm CofE!")
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 No.200425

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>>200416
Capitalism is Entropy’s conscious form, like its avatar here on Earth
It is the reason for the Fermi Paradox, it appears as the devouring wyrm that renders civilizations into fire, ash, and mass extinction
The universe is silent because capital stalks intelligent minds
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 No.200429

File: 1619713329825.gif (7.31 KB, 474x399, religion_wealth_corelation.gif)

a visual aid to my case. see that Europe, with her cossetted religious industry, has seen decline - while America, with her free market, has thrived. this despite the general pressure for increased economic prosperity to yield reduced consumption of religion. (the opium of the masses, but who needs opium when they've got television? "oh dear", says the lord spiritual, "well what the hell are you waiting for", barks the american pastor, "get me a camera!")
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 No.200483

>>200429
What do the ellipses represent?
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 No.200489

>>200483
I take it to be the regions (Africa, East Europe and West Europe) with all the other dots being countries outside those regions.
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 No.200534

>>200365
Hey libtard if Britain ruined Christianity so much then explain the TAIPING HEAVENLY KINGDOM
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 No.200541

>>200421
>no, America has not destroyed religion

There is no religion in white America.
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 No.200542

>>200534
China was on the higher level, the next rung, that was why there was Tai-Ping
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 No.200549

>>200542
That and the British missionaries in Canton
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 No.200551

>>200425
schizophrenia masquerading as theory
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 No.200565

File: 1619716855799.webm (8.6 MB, 1280x720, G5 Arrival (720p_30fps_VP….webm)

>There is no religion in white America.
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 No.200576

>>200551
>Take your meds

SHUT THE FUCK UP SHILL CUNT. Shades of Schizophrenia is required in late stage capatalism to see the world for what it realy is
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 No.200579

>>200565
This is disgusting, everyone in this video will burn in hell.
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 No.200580

>>200576
>Shades of Schizophrenia
this will be the name of my band
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 No.200655

>>200576
>Shades of Schizophrenia is required in late stage capatalism to see the world for what it realy is
Joins the Labour Party… LIKE A BOSS
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 No.200715

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>We not gonna do this ATOS ting
Why was picrel so based? What ever happened to them, landan leftybros?
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 No.200716

>>200655
tbf that's perfectly consistent, what could be more Schizophrenic than a party that pivots from Wilson to Blair to Corbyn to Starmer to Burnham to the very abstract concept of malice itself?
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 No.200784

Skitzophrenia cool meds are for normies
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 No.200791

>>200784
Literally yes. If we had no meds capitalism would already be overthrown
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 No.200796

broke: the sane medicating the schizophrenic
woke: the schizophrenic medicating the sane (see: when the CIA put LSD in the subways etc as part of MKULTRA)
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 No.200843

>>200791
You aren’t skitzo and based you are just stupid
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 No.200869

>>200791
Unironically there are so many based medicated people I would agree with this. You would be the exception to the rule though.
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 No.201380

Since BBC dedicates at least 15 minutes to daily coverage of Navalny, why isn't RT smart enough to put at least 1 minute of daily coverage of Assange? They haven't mentioned him since forever.
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 No.201611

>>201380
Imagine thinking RT have any principles. Its just right wing Russian-nationalist media on the same level as Fox.
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 No.201621

>>201611
>Imagine thinking RT have any principles. Its just right wing Russian-nationalist media on the same level as Fox.
Anon is probably talking about there foreign output, anon.
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 No.201806

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idk about you lads but this scandal is making me feel well posh with my John Lewis sofa.
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 No.201818

>Bongs be like
>*Scoff's* lol these Japanese literally think this drunk midget is a living god luckily we dont believe such silly things.
>Same bongs.
>*See's picture of bad teeth inbred playing golf with his waifu and HECKIN CHILDREN*
>*SOYFACE's till their jaw breaks off*
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 No.201909

>>201818
1. british people don't care about any royals except the queen
2. british people haven't cared about the japanese emperor since 1945. (sadly, since if our royals were actually based they would've married to join the two royal families together medieval style.)
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 No.201934

>>200843
I agree but he is right, in the past many correct people were considered deranged or skitzo, you'd be a fool to think it doesn't happen now. You just have to look at how modern day professionals are so keen to pathologise historical figures with this mental illnesses.
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 No.201935

>>201818
>*SOYFACE's till their jaw breaks off*
That's the australians/canadians etc. and most embarrassingly the americans
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 No.201945

Why do you keep coming back here?
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 No.201988

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>>201909
>>201909
>british people don't care about any royals except the queen
Yew loiar. Ew do yew tink we are m8?
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 No.202008

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>>201988
Royalist Coalition: 26% of the vote
Attenborough-Johnson-Fry-Farage-Corbyn-Packham-Starmer-Lumley-Ardern-Clarkson-Blair-Sturgeon Coalition: 27% of the vote
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 No.202029

>>202008
Honestly I'd roll on the royals over any current party leader
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 No.202037

>>201988
The funniest part is that people would pick the second in line for the throne over both the current reigning monarch and the first in line for the throne. Kinda shows how broken the monarchy is.
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 No.202108

>>202037
Don't forget us Jacobites, there are dozens of us! Down with the Germany pretenders! Long live the British king of the UK, Duke Franz of Bavaria.
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 No.202109

>>202029
Is that the true communist line?
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 No.202138

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Absolute fucking state.
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 No.202140

>>202138
What a pompous faggot lamo
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 No.202145

>>202138
he needs to be publicly hummiliated and sent to a reeducation camp
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 No.202148

>>202138
>what are you gonna do? ruin my life? heh
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 No.202149

>>202138
>looks it up
<faces up to 15 years jail after buying bomb-making manual on Amazon
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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 No.202150

>>202149
he did WHAT
those books have to be there as honeypots lmao
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 No.202154

>>202149
Wikihow: How to Commit A Terror Offence
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 No.202159

>>202138
>/pol/yps being convicted of terrorism.
>Other /pol/yps being convicted for paedophilia.

>"WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT FOR RESEARCH!!!!!!"
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 No.202163

>>202138
liveblogging this crime spree is the smartest idea we've ever had!
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 No.202165

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>>202159
>>"WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT FOR RESEARCH!!!!!!"
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 No.202170

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>>202138
Its hip to be square
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 No.202179

>>202163
>liveblogging this crime spree is the smartest idea we've ever had!
Everyone does this in the UK and dont get caught though. Idiot brits love to photo there crimes for insta.
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 No.202183

>>202179
There's a difference in levels of attention you'll attract using social media to sell drugs and using it to promote proscribed terror groups while using your credit card to purchase bomb manuals.
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 No.202189

>>202183
Right. But i would like to think that such manuals (which i have look at and downloaded for many legitimate reasons not being terrorism) should not get people send to jail over many,many,many people talking v. publicly about going out to poke someone up or putting up photos of your nine or your grow.
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 No.202191

>>202179
yeah but when you post selfies of yourself selling drugs at least you might stimulate some business, and when you film yourself driving a digger into a company that didn't pay your wages on time then everyone will actually think you're cool as fuck

liveblogging about how smug you are to have registered for the world's most obvious honeypot because it'll get you a 10% discount on the kindle unlimited bombmaking subscription just makes you look like the world's biggest mong, especially when it's all read back in court in front of your shame-faced parents.
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 No.202194

>>202189
Nobody cares about the poors knifing each other, terrorism and the threat of it is bad for business.
At least if knife crime gets out of hand your mates can buy up the area for cheap and turn it into empty luxury apartments to speculate on.
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 No.202241

>>202138
Damn, now I'm pro-death penalty but only for oxbridge grads
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 No.202244

>>202170
>'Charming' neo-Nazi
This is what happens when a culture defaults to finding a posh accent charming.
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 No.202271

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Why are Anglos so cucked?!?
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 No.202299

>>202271
Anglos are not cucked, it is the British who are cucked. The Anglos are sleeping
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 No.202307

>>202271
IDK bro but you keep asking us and i am always consued why you think we would have the best understanding of our inherent cuckoldery.
I fear we are to deep in it to answer this question, why don't you explain to us?
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 No.202346

Got a letter from the South African embassy telling me that my political party the "White ANC" for ethnic Britons ("standing against Norman Apartheid") is "not only deeply offensive, historically ignorant, and internally incoherent - a point to which we will return - but also a violation of the trademarks of the African National Congress, which will be forced to launch legal proceedings in the courts of the United Kingdom and of the Republic of South Africa if you do not immediately cease and desist violating their intellectual property rights."

it goes on
"We are unable to ascertain your logic in naming your party the 'White ANC' to begin with, as the nature of your purported organisation has zero relevance to Africa, the "A" in the Acronym. What you appear to want - if your ramblings can be synthesized into any coherent position whatsoever - is a British National Congress, a BNC. We suggest that you re-name your organization to something along these lines (after checking with the proper authorities regarding IP rights, etc.) and, in the spirit of racial equality which you claim to have 'stolen directly from Nelson Mandela's corpse, as Blair stole his economics from Thatcher', drop the word 'white' from the title entirely."

concluding
"Do not reply to this e-mail under any circumstances. You have been notified previously that you are the subject of a restraining order requiring you to refrain from engaging in any correspondence with or relating to HE MS Nomatemba Tambo."
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 No.202442

>>201621
The anon you replied to still has a point though, I mean, for all intents and purposes, RT is nothing more than the Russian version of the BBC, at least in terms of news output
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 No.202445

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 No.202465

>>202442
Right, but i think it's pretty hard to argue that there western pointing media is close to a majority right wing russian nationalist content.
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 No.202472

>>202442
This is true but by virtue of who they are, the Russian government has more incentive to tell the truth about the biggest imperial powers which the BBC does not have. I can’t honestly think of a single time I’ve watched RT and it was actually about Russia
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 No.202491

>>202472
> can’t honestly think of a single time I’ve watched RT and it was actually about Russia
That time that traitor spook got offed with poison and they had to do damage control.
One of only times i remember
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 No.202742

>>202299
You fool, whilst the Angles, Saxons and Gaelics grow content and weak in their dominance, the Jutes and the Picts sharpen their knives and prepare to bring proletarian revolution to the isles.
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 No.203306

https://twitter.com/rosielanners/status/1277545491052584960
>replace the entire British curriculum with this TikTok
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 No.203335

>>203306
lots of them deserved it
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 No.203824

Apparently there are Kill the Bill protests going on today, can't wait to see that FUCKING STALIN BANNER at them.
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 No.203841

>>202742
The jutes are part of the Norman overclass pushing imperialism. Picts are with the Lumpen Gaelic
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 No.203850

>>203824
We love the Stalin banner, don't we folks?
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 No.203939

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kvok6_UkKA
Mayday rally to Kill the Bill live from London
Please someone set-up a cytube.
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 No.204000

File: 1619871133891.png (568.98 KB, 522x433, ClipboardImage.png)

Based Kurds against the Kill.
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 No.204056

They're singing a footie chant "We're ANTIFA, We're here to stay" lamo
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 No.204118

File: 1619878083984-0.png (41.47 KB, 128x127, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1619878083984-1.png (95.24 KB, 1920x1152, ClipboardImage.png)

RUG MERCHANTS SPOTTED
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 No.204150

File: 1619879137428.jpg (166.92 KB, 620x372, Stalin-banner-on-May-Day.jpg)

>>204118
we want the banner! we want the banner! we want the banner!
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 No.204163

>>204150
Unfortunately, this year I cannot see a banner.
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 No.204863

>five arrested over right wing terror offences
Lads if there isn’t at least one of them who turns out to also be a nonce, then I will go out somewhere in glasgow and spray paint “leftybritpol woz ere” in some public place
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 No.204877

>>204863
Lads if there ist at least one of them who turns out to also be a nonce, then I will go out somewhere in bristol and spray paint “all nazis are pedos - leftybritpol woz ere” in some public place
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 No.204893

>>204877
I will also do this
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 No.204929

>>204150
Imagine not having the big Stalin banner. CRINGE!
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 No.205217

BIG BIG CHUNGUS BIG CHUNGUS BIG BIG CHUNGUS BIG CHUNGUS
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 No.207217

File: 1619946878055.png (274.58 KB, 401x500, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.207558

>>204863
>Not doing it anyway
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 No.207617

File: 1619959593258.png (202.1 KB, 400x417, ClipboardImage.png)

>>207217
Oh No! Mosley look out for the banana peel! God he can't hear me he's got his heilpods in!
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 No.207647

File: 1619960548041.jpeg (184.11 KB, 2048x1536, E4813D87-8AF1-4474-83E0-8….jpeg)

TOP O’ THE MORNING LADS
I AM A REAL BRITISH ANGLO, CHIP CHIP, CHEERIO!
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 No.207819

Big up 50+1, Man U fans giving me hope for this country.
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 No.208393

Okay. idea:
OPERATION ASTROTURF
So with the growing discontent in footie over fan ownership, and people talking about 50+1, we, as communists, socialists and coodeterminist social democrats, should harness this to promote fan ownership and unionisation within english footie. I am willing to hear from you lot RE praxis, but I feel like there is an energy here we can harness.
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 No.208422

>>208393
Operation Astolfoturf and all the cute femboys and traps message me haha
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 No.208457

>>208422
This will be Greater Manchester under Alec (seriously considering voting first preference for him for the bants)
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 No.208814

>>203841
what differentiates the jutes from anglo-saxons
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 No.208843

>>208393
I think this is an excellent idea and will do be doing absolutely nothing to further it.
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 No.208946

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 No.208967

>>208814
They're proletarian, duh.
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 No.209365

My younger brother has always been an avowed Lib Dem just sent me a glowvara link.

Pipeline is real.
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 No.209386

>>209365
>My younger brother has always been an avowed Lib
I never would've guessed sage.
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 No.209495

File: 1619997071312.png (168.06 KB, 435x445, Agent_Starmer.png)

>>209365
buckle up, kiddo. we're goin for a ride!
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 No.209935

Shoved my vaccine letter straight into the shredder de lads.
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 No.209980

File: 1620003174898.jpg (22.81 KB, 360x132, updatedmyjournal.jpg)

>>209935
Thanks lad keep em coming
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 No.210056

>>209980
Literally everything here is wrong lmao.
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 No.210175

File: 1620005286985.png (3.29 KB, 306x64, newinformation.png)

>>210056
Thx updated
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 No.210181

>>210175
Got vaxxed yet?
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 No.210183

so he either likes me and doesn't like sex, or he likes sex but doesn't like me
either way my day is ruined.
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 No.210350

>Professor Paul Hunter of East Anglia University agreed. “I wouldn’t be surprised if face masks still had to be worn on public transport and maybe in other places for some time yet,” he said. This point was also backed by Professor James Naismith of Oxford University, who argued that face-mask wearing could become a useful measure for countering diseases other than Covid-19. “I think we’ll re-impose masking in the winter on crowded indoor spaces. It has the benefit of reducing flu.”
These people belong in prison for life, and that's being soft.
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 No.210393

>>210350
mate it's a piece of fabric that helps block your face from spy cameras, get over it.
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 No.210401

>>210393
You can asphyxiate yourself any time you feel like it. But those responsible for imposing filthy muzzles on the masses should be dealt with.
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 No.210408

File: 1620008308645.jpg (201.38 KB, 1024x768, Don't choke.jpg)

>>210401
>mask
>You can asphyxiate yourself
You're doing it wrong.
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 No.210410

>>209935
Good to see you back leninhat. Thread was not the same without you!
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 No.210426

>>207819
saw this today though I don't follow sports much. they've really surprised me. I hope they get 50+1 but with that fat cunt at the top it just feels like it'll never happen even if it'd give his people more capital the very instant he approved it.
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 No.216223

Live Protests consisting of kill the bill, xr and anti superleauge all together in Manchester, got some union folks out too. Could put on a livestream on cytube later.
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 No.216228

>>216223
Sounds great. When are they? WHere?
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 No.216235

>>210181
Yeah and I got the latest version of windows too
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 No.216249

>>216235
Based. Don't want to be at risk of any security vulnerabilities.
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 No.216282

File: 1620038586941.jpg (99.93 KB, 800x450, SYT_193959-l.jpg)

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 No.216299

>>216282
First journey to Epstein Island no doubt.
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 No.216546

>>216228

Oh I said they are doing it in Manchester, and it's been happening the past 2 hours or so
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 No.216559

>>202148
>>202149
>>202163
Kek thanks for the chuckle lads.
Leftists will actually defend this….
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 No.216568

>>216546
Shit coulda gone. Oh well, its pissing it down anyways.
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 No.216664

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDazkztv8KA

They hated him because he told the truth.
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 No.216874

>>216223
Social-fascist parties like Labour, the WPB, CPB and other trot outfits who demanded workers be locked up for over a year have no right to protest for the police state they helped enforce.
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 No.216927

>>216874
You should start a party with Piers Corbyn anon.
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 No.217041

I will bet my trademark hat that there will be another lockdown come autumn/winter.
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 No.217054

Also not voting for the CPB next week even though I could. The fact that the cretinous rich Susan Michie, who is helping the British ruling class wage psychological warfare against us as part of SAGE, is a member, says it all about what sort of outfit it is. They see us as cattle.
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 No.217059

NEW THREAD YA BASTARDS
>>217052
>>217052
>>217052
>>217052

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