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 No.1755950

Anyone want to organize some monthly Internationale sing-alongs here? I mean, most online political communities are nihilist / cynical disasters, so I thought we should have some Marxist / Leftist / Socialist positivity once in a while.

No political content for the main event; just, let's sing along to the Internationale in various languages.

 No.1755953

Okay, I'm embarrassed by this Panera Bread left version.

How about this older one? I prefer the Chinese version ("the Internationale MUST exist" is extremely powerful), but let's do something most users can actually read.

 No.1756124

I like the idea, although I'm not willing to put my voice online for specific personal safety reasons.

 No.1756126

>>1755950
I like this one

probably not that good for singing though

 No.1757606

Really, how do we get more enthusiasm for this project?

My problem with a lot of leftists in the West is that we have no spiritual education. We are merely labor aristocracy that resents the share of surplus value that we receive for our work.

Before one seeks to become a Marxist, one should have a proper education in the spirituality and psychological makeup that befits a Marxist, so that we can become a true revolutionary force in a world where Five Eyes tracks everything and we persist under unlimited threat.

Singing Red songs, starting with the Internationale, should be the foundation of our spiritual education.

 No.1757647

Bump

 No.1757671

I'm not going in the CIA voice database + I don't sing

 No.1757761

>>1757671
Voice changer. Or, just sing with a vocaloid.

 No.1758224

>>1757606
>My problem with a lot of leftists in the West is that we have no spiritual education.
You lost me, kid.

 No.1758473

>>1758224

From the Chinese perspective, Marxism is a form of spirituality. If it were not, it would be unable to get the People’s Volunteer Army to storm the UN positions in Korea, with the former underdressed, underarmed, with the latter bearing tremendous advantages in firepower, training, and materiel.

If it were not, the Japanese would never have said “among your prisoners, you can always tell who is a Communist because they are the ones who make sure the other prisoners get the best food first, then only grudgingly eat the leftover dredges afterwards”.

Before you study Marxism, you must first undergo a program of mental and spiritual reform so that your values and emotions are aligned with those who are seeking revolution. Otherwise, you’ll simply be another member of the Western left-wing talking shop that has gotten so little done over the past 50 years.

 No.1758483

>>1758473
communists should be like Shaolin monks

 No.1758488

>>1758473
so u sayin that the power of marxism doesn't lie in keeping everything exactly the same but with red paint and new names? woah. I don't think anons here are ready for such incendiary ideas.

 No.1758492

>>>/leftypol/1758473
I would call you idealist but you probably don't know the meaning of that insult. you are mentally retarded and have never read marx. stop spamming the board

>>>/leftypol/1758488
anti-marxist posts attract retards like shit attracts flies

 No.1758494


 No.1758497

>>1758492
In the Soviet Union, the term was moral education. The failure of the Soviet Union, in the Chinese analysis, lay in the loss of faith in Marxism.

Objectively, I am asking you to be a model of discipline and moral excellence, just as I am belatedly moving toward such myself. Without the tinge of Marxism, how would you consider your refusal of this exhortation?

Or are you asking to make our leftist movements not those of the proletariat, but that of lumpy profiteroles (yes, I know it’s lumpen) with the values engendered in such?

 No.1758500

>>1758497
Does china have pizza hut? If so, its already too late

 No.1758565

Once again, shall we sing the Red songs together? The role of our Western comrades is not to forment revolution, because we will simply be overrun by Western security services.

Instead, our role is to keep the old feelings, the old dreams, alive, and infiltrate, infiltrate, infiltrate.

The ideal socialist is the ideal tool for capitalist slavery. But if we keep the old dreams alive, we shall control their power elite before they know of what has happened, and bring sooner the day of our final struggle, our last liberation.

Shall we sing the old songs together?

 No.1758566

>>>/leftypol/1758565
grass status: immaculate

 No.1758567

>>1758566
I am not familiar with your hipster slang. What is that a reference to, marijuana?

If you will not sing, then post.

Debout! les damnés de la terre!

 No.1758572

>>1758567
Same poster as above, but I would like to prevent historical errors, like moving to Russian too quickly.

Die stets man noch zum Hungern zwingt!

 No.1759323

>>1758488

I'm overall more interested in revolutionary potential than revolutionary action, because it's obvious that the social potential for revolution does not exist in the First World.

However, trying to build disciplined Marxist-Leninist organizations for their own sake, simply biding its time for 50-80 years, is still worthwhile.

Or does that timescale scare you?

For justice thunders condemnation…

 No.1759324

>>1759323
A better world’s in birth!

 No.1759353

>>1755950
Touch grass. Then go and join a real political party.

 No.1759380

>>1759353

Like the American Democrats? You're an American Democrat in spirit. Or, perhaps you're just a generic Succdem in denial.

Весь мир насилья мы разрушим
До основанья, а затем

 No.1759389

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>>1759353

And yeah, every day, I touch the sweet, soft grass of Socialism, even if it's overrun with cat shit or dog shit.

What can you say, in contrast? If you are not a glowie, you are a glowie in spirit.

What have you done for the proletariat today? What have you done for the proletariat this month? What have you done for the proletariat this year?

You are nothing more than a LARPer dressed up in red colors.

起て 世を覆せ
不可能の在れや.

 No.1759491

i would rather sing hasta siempre commandante or el pueblo unido hamas sera vencido or bella ciao

 No.1759497

>>1759389
>You are nothing more than a LARPer dressed up in red colors.
>JCP

 No.1759503

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>>1759497

They actually have a stranglehold in Kansai; iirc Kyoto is their powerbase.

And yeah, you can note I'm using the older Japanese lyrics, not the modern ones which sound like out of an advertising pitch.

>>1759491

Then, shall we go ahead with it? Internationale just seems like something most people could agree on.

這是最後的爭鬥,
團結起來到明天,

This is our final struggle.
Unite toward tomorrow

 No.1759605

>>1759323
>Or does that timescale scare you?
Goes hard. The ultra fears long term plans.
>>1758483
This but unironically

 No.1759606

Bruh just join a party and go outside.

 No.1759624

Fed bait, and on top of that even if you were sincere why the hell would you use The Internationale in the current day? The Internationale was written in a time prior to the successful revolutions which established the proletarian nations desired in the song. The era of revolutions was concluded following the GPW which is why the Soviet Union dropped the song as their anthem. In the context of multipolarity, The Internationale is at best irrelevant and at worst actively anti-communist because it can and has easily been coopted by left anti-communists to support various color revolutions, as they utilize the song’s implication that there are no proletarian nations hence the necessity of creating one through NATO backed color revolution.

tl;dr The Internationale is a relic that in the modern day is actively counterproductive. If you want to sing a communist song so badly at least do something like the Chinese national anthem

 No.1759625

^
The circus is here

 No.1759641

>>1759624

Shoigu in North Korea, which is why I don't think the Internationale is irrelevant.

>>

You should study the article written by Lenin on the twenty-fifth anniversary of the death of Eugene Pottier. Learn to sing ‘The Internationale’ and ‘The Three Great Rules of Discipline and the Eight Points for Attention’. Let them not only be sung but also explained and acted upon. ‘The Internationale’ and Lenin’s article express throughout a Marxist standpoint and outlook. What they say is that slaves should arise and struggle for truth. There never has been any supreme saviour, nor can we rely on gods or emperors. We rely entirely on ourselves for our salvation. Who has created the world of men? We the labouring masses. During the Lushan Conference I wrote a 700-word article which raised the question of who created history, the heroes or the slaves.[19] ‘The Internationale’ says we must unite until the day comes when Communism will certainly be realized. If you study Marxism you will see that it teaches unity and not splitting. We have been singing ‘The Internationale’ for fifty years but people have tried to split our Party ten times. I think it possible that they will do it another ten times, or twenty times, or thirty times. You don’t believe it? Maybe you don’t but I do. When we reach Communism will there be no struggles? I don’t believe that either. When we reach Communism there will still be struggles, but they will be between the new and the old, the correct and the incorrect, that is all. After tens of millennia have passed by, the incorrect will still be no good and will fail.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-9/mswv9_88.htm

Mao in 1971.

 No.1759642

Tsinghua in 2021.

Apparently at CPC meetings the Internationale still gets dragged out for special occasions.

 No.1759645

>>1759624

Do you really think the NSA / Five Eyes doesn't have the IP and identities of everyone here? Sure, a proxy or a layered proxy could make them not bust you on a casual inspection, but if you're not proxying, you're already exposed.

I wouldn't be surprised if server admins are participating in COINTELPRO's successors, and it's simply what we have to live with for now, today, tomorrow, and the tomorrows for many years.

It's just not opportune to bust us yet, especially since the leftists here have turned into a bunch of cynics and nihilists with little real threat to the established order.

As for the Internationale, as I've said before, I am happy that some COMRADES agree with me that self-cultivation and moral reeducation should be the foundation of our adhesion.

***

As for the Chinese national anthem, it's just the music to a Chinese patriotic film, i.e, the song of a single nation-state whose lyrics are heavily cribbed from the Internationale and whose emotional power is specific to a single country, and arguably, inferior for that.

If you want to do anthems, why not the old anthem of the USSR?

 No.1759650

File: 1707825109239.png (1.7 KB, 300x200, cpc.png)

英特纳雄耐尔
就一定要实现

The Internationale
MUST come to pass!

 No.1759651

I don't sing when sober

 No.1759652

>>1759651

https://www.thewinebuyer.com/wines/Brotte-La-Marasque-Gigondas-2021-w7733617l5

It's better when you're drunk, hell, everything in this rotten, corrupt world is better when you're drunk.

 No.1759661

Also, finally, yes, the Internationale has been coopted by anti-Communists the world over. It is a generic Leftist song, but as such, it also unites the Left, anarchist, syndicalist, Marxist, whatever.

The entire problem with parts of the left is that we splinter. We are prone to dispute and we are prone to not allowing ourselves to be subject to discipline.

In an era where much of the world was still ripe for revolution, our truculence was an asset, not a bane. Now, the Naxalites are downed, the Maoists barely made it in India, Shining Path is dead, most of Latin America is seeing a reactionary backlash, and in the First World, glowie has his boot on our throats.

The first instinct among many should be to infiltrate, infiltrate, infiltrate, but the second should be to subvert, subvert, subvert. By improving our own moral character, by making our own example charismatic through our goodness, the heterodox and the glowies can be moved to our own side.

I suppose this is incredibly idealistic, but is it any more idealistic than waiting for capitalism to collapse?

In one, we can take active action and through practice refine our understanding of theory. In the other, we simply shitpost.

> Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it.


Ineun uli majimag, pangalim ssaum-ini
This is our final struggle, our decisive struggle.

Inthonasyonallo, inlyuga tteolchili!
With the Internationale, mankind will rise!

 No.1759662

>>1759661

Correction, the Maoists barely made it in Nepal. The Naxalites are still around, but they're mostly contained in India.

 No.1760153

File: 1707849504309.png (1.81 KB, 318x159, cuba.png)

>>1759662


Borrad el rastro del pasado!
Arriba, esclavos, todos en pié!

 No.1763945

File: 1708107584797.png (1.98 KB, 200x133, vietnam.png)

chế độ xưa ta mau phá sạch tan tành
toàn nô lệ vùng đứng lên đi

We will quickly destroy the old regime and completely destroy it
All the slaves stood up and left


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