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 No.1756488[View All]

A lot of what I have to say is going to anger most of you here, but I know that there are at least a couple of smart brave leftists that lurk here, this message is for you, not the mouth breathers. the "left" includes libshits as well, just for clarification.

I like to think of my self as a leftist because the left are the revolutionaries that are against suffering and oppression. the main problem is that the left is all heart but little brain.

most people on the left reject biological reality (evolutionary psychology is detested) and base their entire retarded theories on false axioms that don't correspond with reality. they're not brave enough look at reality and see it for what it is (harsh darwinian ruthless competition), instead they make up narratives that suit their constructed world view, they deny reality or at least aspects of it, they suffer from willful ignorance, which hardly makes them better than the theologians that they love to sneer at. this same cowardliness disables them from being even harsher critics of the oppression and suffering that takes place on earth.

here is an example that explains what im talking about.
leftists love to boast about how the modern world lacks scarcity, as if that's going to somehow automagically solve our problems. because they reject evolutionary psychology, they refuse to think of humans as greedy organisms that are biologically stuck in the stone age. it must be capitalism! or some other nonsense. and it's not that im defending capitalism, that's besides the point, which is that the left refuses to dig deeper into the origins of human psychology.
and so their entire methods and theories will crumble because they're based on false premises and axioms.

the true leftists are the pessimists, the antinatalists, hardcore vegans and maybe some of the transhumanists, everyone else is retarded. we need to a new tent for the leftists that are more rational, brave and critical that is separate from the "mainstream left".

another concern is this, the reason why the right wing gains so many people is because they appeal to their rationality. im not saying that the left isn't rational, it's just the left is horrible when it comes to appealing to people with low empathy, and so the left seems irrational to these people. this is why we need a better more critical left, that is not afraid of discussing ideas that are outside of the overton window, such as race realism. you can detest this all you want and you'd be right in your heart but you have to understand that this doesn't matter to your political opponent.(Liberal shit. Proceed at your own risk. )
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 No.1759761

>>1759333
propose a better solution then. im waiting.

 No.1760019

>>1756488
Harping on about the importance of muh evolutionary psychology and how the world is run by muh ruthless darwinian natural selection and nothing else is simply taking on the aesthetics of materialism. On reality, it's idealist af and profoundly retarded.

 No.1760127

we need an occult left that ditches classic socialism that comes from the french revolution for esoteric revolutionism. esoteric socialism. maybe dont even use the word socialism? its bad pr. revolutionary mysticism or something id unno. the right keeps riding on guenon shit and evola shit even though they are total fakes. theres an appeitite for this stuff.

 No.1760164

> most people on the left reject biological reality (evolutionary psychology is detested) and base their entire retarded theories on false axioms that don't correspond with reality. they're not brave enough look at reality and see it for what it is (harsh darwinian ruthless competition)
Stomfaggotry gets you gulag

 No.1760165

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> here is an example that explains what im talking about.
leftists love to boast about how the modern world lacks scarcity,

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>>1756488
>this is why we need a better more critical left, that is not afraid of discussing ideas that are outside of the overton window, such as race realism
Stopped reading here. Fuck off rightoid

 No.1761856

>>1758816
The new left needs to do away with Marx all together as you seem to suggest, as heretical as that might sound. that's the first thing, the second thing I think is that the left needs to accept and process the full implications of Darwin's evolutionary theory. this is something that the left has relatively been uninvolved in, mainly because they left wants to desperately believe that humans are born as blank slates molded almost entirely by culture.
at this point it should be apparent that this is far from the truth. of course in the context of this thread you'd be free to point out the lack of evidence for this claim and that's fine, but this goes a bit outside the scope of the topic and im not here to discuss whether or not evolutionary psychology holds any truth for now.
>What are the ideas that made up the left?
>Well, its roots were a combination of French radicalism and English economics. Marx combined those strands with German philosophy. So we need a new philosophy, a new political theory, and new critique of political economy that doesn't depend on what came before. Traditional leftist thought is a dead end. Marx gets less and less useful as capital changes but leftists are glued to reading a damn near 160 year old book (and by read they usually skim it or watch youtube videos).
the new left should be built with Darwin in mind, uninspiring, I know. but that's all I have to say in the meantime. we need something else other than Darwin of course, something that justifies what we're doing and why.

 No.1761860

>>1761856
Death to all fascist scum.

 No.1761863

>>1761860
>Darwin = fascist
the human race sure scares me by it's lack of optimism and creativity sometimes.

 No.1761869

>>1761863
Your mother should have spit you onto the pavement.

 No.1761872

>>1761869
I'm not your enemy, save that energy for something else.

 No.1761874

>leftists love to boast about how the modern world lacks scarcity
Stopped reading here. Be honest, are you just some chinlet trying to impersonate a leftist or leftist thought?

 No.1761877

>>1761874
Then you should continue reading, and after that read the entire OP again. because they already answered.

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>>1756488
>leftists overestimate the power of technology to bring abundance
>this is because of spooky psychological reasons and not because of the power of geometric growth of the population
so close and yet so far

 No.1761888

>>1761872
you are and you should kill yourself

 No.1761928

>>1761886
Oh we have abundance alright, that's not what I was talking about however.

 No.1762124

>>1756557
>what makes you think socialism is indiscriminately against suffering and oppression.
Almost the only based post here.
>>1756505
Are you the normal gay Nazi flag poster?
Pretty sure that's me, the one who inevitably brings up Engels in almost any conversation. (to hate on inbred russian saboteurs)

 No.1762126

>>1762124
<inbred russian saboteurs
I like the filter for kïke lol

 No.1762130

>>1756557
I'm pretty sure we want classes to wither away, not oppress bourgs. How tf did libs have a greater understanding of socialism than MLs

 No.1762132

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 No.1762155

>>1760164
<fashies get the bashies
Do you even lift?

 No.1762158

>>1762130
>not oppress bourgs. How tf did libs have a greater understanding of socialism than MLs
Oppressing them is the only way to get them to mold themselves into proles.

 No.1762163

>>1761856
>The new left needs to do away with Marx all together … I think is that the left needs to accept and process the full implications of Darwin's evolutionary theory.
Marx and Engels were influenced by Darwin. If you think about human societies, from day to day they don't look like they change that much, but over a few hundred years you might as well be looking at a different animal.

 No.1762165

>>1756488
this is one of the dumbest/most confused posts i've ever seen
if you actually think you're 'left' wing just go neck yourself

 No.1762367

Better the alliance with the religious is than nihilistic and antihuman miserlies.

 No.1762374

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>>1756488
>most people on the left reject biological reality
Stopped reading after that, kys fashoid

 No.1768339

One thing I've been thinking about is that the left needs stronger ties with international allies. our strength isn't in nations, it's international after all. conservatives while do have international allies don't use that aspect as properly as leftists. for example, take American politics, there is nothing much a leftist can do from Europe or even Azerbaijan to help with the political climate in the US. this is just wasted potential.

 No.1768341

>>1762367
The religious are your enemy, period. especially the Abrahamics. they're temporary allies at best. Abrahamic religions need to be eradicated anyways, they're anti progress in every ideological sense, because they already have the "Truth". even if there are group allies from it (liberal Christians) it doesn't matter, their ideology is inherently antithetic to your the leftist goals. that's why Abrahamic religions will always slide with the conservatives, it's by design.

 No.1768343

Stopped being spooked. Communism is party rules not autocrat rules. There can be democracy but not without the vanguard of the proletariat first. It's just how it is. Leadership. You don't know better than lenin did.

 No.1768351

Another thing is that the left needs to learn to play dirty. dirtier than the right, way filthier.
the GOP has shown no shame what so ever. because the supposed rules and principals that institute the United States are just that, rules. they don't exist unless enforced. the reason why the GOP in the past decade has succeeded is because they're willing to not play by the rules, after all they're not enforced, may as well not be real.
it's the old "When they go low, we go high". the left can't win against someone not willing to play by the rules, it's really just simple game theory. there is no bottom the GOP isn't willing to go down to.
so we need a new strategy with this in mind.

 No.1768354

>>1768351
The strategy is what it's always been. Elect far left to local office, organize, arm the constituents, make a big show, unionized, twist some arms, grow, maybe burn some buildings. All the way to the white house until the army has been amassed then take private property by force

 No.1768364

>>1762163
The issue is that the modern left, on the surface at least, don't seem to acknowledge Darwinism at all. unless it's something to use against creationists.

 No.1768366

>>1768364
The whole argument about autism score is that higher autism score people make the economy better. If it's about aesthetics then you can go buy a painting.

 No.1768464

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>>1768351
Is there a way to obey my bosses and complete my work well without feeling like a total pussy?

 No.1768603

>>1768464
Go break Marxian alienation, and professionally, take up a salariman mentality. Take pride in doing a good job, and if you have to talk back to your boss, talk back by refusing to half ass anything.

 No.1768649

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>>1768364
let me get my calipers.
Send me your measurements you big ape

 No.1768651

>>1768649
Gets me every time

 No.1768813

>>1768649
The human brain is malleable and programmable, im not saying that genes = culture. you limped dick ape.

 No.1768819

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>>1768813
't was merely a jest, chill
also my cock is at half mast pretty much all the time

 No.1770153

I think what the left needs is some sort of spiritual (not religious) goal. like a proper universal narrative.
Hegel is the closest I can think of.

 No.1770158

>>1770153
Religion is too spooky though. I know you said not religion but that's what an organised 'spiritual' system is.

I think a secular system of belief would be better, like a cult of humanity without any supernatural crap.

 No.1770163

>>1770158
not supernatural, think more metaphysical.
a metaphysical narrative is the strongest narrative you can have. if you can think of a reasonable metaphysics and build your political philosophy on that, then you can easily win against other crappier metaphysics.
your narrative needs to be more ultimate than Christianity, or just as much at least.
secular humanism is ok, but I think we need something grander.

 No.1770166

>>1770163
How can you get any higher than secular humanism without just making shit up though?

 No.1770175

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>>1762163
>>1768364
The Stalinoid formulation of "bourgeois science" and its consequences has been a disaster for the scientific literacy of the radical left.

 No.1770180

>>1770166
You can't. you have to make shit up.
but not just any bullshit, unlike religions, we can make sound metaphysical systems that can try to describe reality (bypassing the limitations of empiricism). from there we build a narrative that's very close to secular humanity but spiritual instead of secular.

 No.1770182

>>1770166
Unitarian Universalism with Buddhist characteristics where you are inclusive of all sentient life?

 No.1770184

>>1770180
That's not to say that we should throw away secularism of course. we can have both.

 No.1770187

>>1770182
Yea something like that. universal consciousness which we eventually go back to. goes very well for a collective egalitarian narrative.

 No.1770469

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>>1770187
Spinzaku (that's a Code Geass reference for those of you not old enough to have been on 4chan circa 2007-2010)
I am of course talking about Pantheism.
Anyway, Buddhism sounds like a nice choice. Bonus Alan Watts hilarity. This was pre-Buddhism.


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