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hello everyone!

-how are socialists organizing in your country?
-do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions? a link towards a newspaper/social media page/whatever is appreciated
-do they have support within the working class?
-do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
-what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?

on argentina:
-poorly. the broad of the working class either a) supports milei, b) is nostalgic for peronism, c) is indifferent and/or despairing. there are some attempts at unified action, but socialism still remains a small minority and (sadly) some groups are betting on a popular front with social democrats (ignoring they are guilty for this social and economical mess, and now that they lost popular support we need to take this chance to build a better alternative)
-razon y revolucion - via socialista (reason and revolution - socialist way). they started as a small academic group and are now building a vanguard party proper. theyve been studying argentine history and economics for decades and consequently building a party program fit for our country
https://viasocialista.com.ar/
https://razonyrevolucion.org/
-no lol. they are small group which mistakenly hedged its bets on trying to work with the trotskyist parties front but after being expelled from it and seeing how trotskyism is progressively degenerating into electoralism understood that building an independent party is best for the movement. one of the leading figures has experience as a trade union leader though
-most of them tbf. maoists and stalinists are inside bourgeois electoral fronts (muh national bourgeois), trotskyists are both lost in liberal postmodernist and on personal disputes over who leads the election ballot and guevarists are either dead after the 70s repression or shunning elections altogether
-the party i mentioned is, as i see it, not focused enough in trying to win personal sympathies. this could help us recruit activists and make the party and its program better known. its repeating its academia habits, too lost in technocracy and producing media content, not enough tangible links with the working class

 

>>1852176
Bulgaria:
>how are socialists organizing in your country?
They aren't.
>Do you recognize a political party
No.
>Do they
No.
>What do you think they lack
A real movement.

 

>>1852178
i just visited the political parties in bulgaria wikipedia page, are you telling me none of the leftist ones are worth shit?

 

>>1852189
You will either come across "socialists" who are just liberals or ultranationalists with a "socialist" aesthetic.

 

>>1852209
not very different from latam

 

>>1852176
Canada, there's two communist parties, both of them are pretty shitty, a new one is being founded this month, a Trotskyist one, they seem to just sell newspapers.
>do they have support within the working class?
No, not really.
>do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
Both of the Marxist-Leninist parties are reformist, so that's probably an issue.
>what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
Doing literally anything that could possibly advance any cause they may or may not follow.
Meanwhile right-wing populism is on the rise, so things are not looking great.

 

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on Iraq
>how are socialists organizing in your country?
They don't aside from LARPfests.
>do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions? a link towards a newspaper/social media page/whatever is appreciated
Non existing. We have pro-imperialist revisionists who have taken over the ICP, fringe Trotskist groups, dozen irrelevant underground movements and old armed struggle veterans who have retired politics mostly.
>do they have support within the working class?
No. (That's a good thing)
>do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
All of them.
>what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
Basic understanding if material conditions, competent propaganda aimed at the youth, commitment to socialism and theoretical cohesion, revival of old socialist trends in the country, challenging the status quo and offering a real alternative road to the masses.
I still have a hopeful will for change, the ground is laid for radical change.

 

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>>1852293
Forgot the most important factor, lack of organized armed proletariat guerrillas. Time to revive the leftist adventurism meme.

 

>>1852176
USA
>-how are socialists organizing in your country?
groups masturbate themselves or each other while sitting in a circle
>-do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions?
Non existing, headed by faggot feds
>-do they have support within the working class?
no
>-do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
no
>-what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
outreach, Basic propaganda

 

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Frente Amplio (reformist coalition)
https://www.frenteamplio.uy/

Popular Unity (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist coalition)
https://www.unidadpopular.org.uy/proyectos-de-ley

Marxist-Leninist Communist Party Of Uruguay (ICMLPO related, page with pop ups)

https://www.banderaroja.uy/principal/
http://pcmlu.uy/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Resoluciones-II-congreso-octubre-2021.pdf

>how are socialists organizing in your country?


There is only one big coalition of "marxist" parties, which is mostly composed of revisionists, trotskytes and ex guerrilla veterans who are now petite bourgeoisie.

Also, the "communist" party has been a social-democrat party since it's creation.

>do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions?


We have a bunch truly marxist-leninist organizations. Sadly, they are not known by no one.

Back then we had the Tupamaros, but they failed to imitate the foco theory although our country is mostly rural.

>do they have support within the working class?


Mostly, people support liberal policies, but working class movements here are kind of strong. Specially among teachers.

>do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?


The coalition that i mentioned before basically.

>what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?


Revolutionary thinking basically. The """communist""" party that i mentioned before has a very large youth movement, but they have reformist ideas.

 

>>1852341
>Uruguay
red-Liberal dogshit

 

>>1852249
>a new one is being founded
Who? I know there's the (N)CPC but was told they're Maoists

 

>>1852359
The Revolutionary Communist Party, it's a Trot party associated with the IMT.

 

>cunt?
check flag
>how are socialists organizing in your country?
there's a fair bit of infighting, but overall it's alright. the groups who touch grass are tolerating each other enough to move forward with anti-Zionist aktion.
>do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions?
Hard to say, but I can point out ones that absolutely aren't. I don't read their papers to be honest.
>do they have support within the working class?
Two of the three main orgs actually work with unions consistently. The other is more skeptical of unions, accusing the other two of grossly overstating the effectiveness of unions in their supportive stances (and incidentally are a notoriously disliked group among the working class for various reasons). A fourth org are useless ultras who literally tell everyone they shouldn't be in any existing union and just form a one true union of rank and file workers.
I can't say socialists have wide support among the working class as a whole, socialists are present at all the protests but don't enter day-to-day life for most people, at least for people I talk to.
>do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
Of the three main groups I mentioned earlier, the first is M-L, and the other two, despite being on the other sides of that practical union support, are both officially Cliffite Trotskyists (International Socialist Tendency), So in this case the strand isn't really the issue, in my opinion, but the orgs themselves and their strategies. Unfortunately groups 3 and 4 alienate every non-member by being parasitic cunts like those annoying Christians proselytizing, while 2 alienate 3 and 4 by being seen as opportunistic. Group 3 is the largest but mostly students still at university, 2 seems like the second largest but far more connected in unions.
>what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
Having chatted to people in both 2 and 3 - communication.
It seems that simple miscommunications during actions have avoidably brewed bitterness and competition between the two orgs. Either that, or one of the orgs is just lying to fuck over the other; it's hard to know which unless you're there on the ground. Either way, their lack of faith in the other is destructive and leads them towards infighting, if not now then soon.
Group 3 also need to take a fucking hint when someone doesn't want to join them, because they act like the worst possible Mormon when trying to recruit. They give the socialist movement a bad name, even among people who completely share socialist values.

 

>>1852350
Not only that, the official web newspaper of the """communist""" party from the Frente Amplio (coalition), has Soviet related content although they based all their theory from Kautsky.

And some how these fuckers got into the Comintern.

 

>>1852176
>how are socialists organizing in your country?
through college campuses and shit along those lines, pretty nice but they seem to be detatched from a lot of the country only opting to organize in larger developed metropolitan cities while ignoring a lot of smaller more industrialized and un-unionized cities
-do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions? a link towards a newspaper/social media page/whatever is appreciated
theres nothing yet, we got various communist parties ranging from orthodox anti-revisionist MLs(CPC-ML), sinophiles who want the party to go back to the days when moscow was bankrolling their rent and speaking gigs (cpc), trotskyists who have a lot of energy as of late but it's only to advertise philosophy courses they offer online (fightback) and maoists who keep nuking their party because they can't agree on if the french are colonized people or colonizers.
-do they have support within the working class?
they don't even have support among one another lol
-do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
its not really a specific strand as much as its the sheer lack of cooperation and coordination from the various socialist groups, among one another, they lack the ability to form a coherent message to the public and are more caught up on competing with one another on who can be the true and honest marxist group of the country
-what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
like i said, cooperation with both the public and other parties that are communist

 

>>1852369
>IMT

International Monetary Trend?

 

>>1853050
International Marxist Tendency.

 

brazil:
there is exactly 1 leftist in brazil and they're not me

 

>>1852176
I don't think the Argentinian workers are completely defeated, I've noticed a huge will to fight during the 8M, 24M and University marches along with some strikes summoned independently of the CGT.

https://politicaobrera.com/11795-necesitamos-unir-todas-las-luchas-e-impulsar-la-huelga-general

 

>>1853043
>only opting to organize in larger developed metropolitan cities while ignoring a lot of smaller more industrialized and un-unionized cities
Well, what can be done? Having grown up in less dense areas, it's hard to find enough people to form any socialist org in the first place there. Should they do some rural tour events or something? sincere question

 

>>1852176
country: indonesia
>-how are socialists organizing in your country?
They are banned as per TAP MPRS 25/1966 + stigma around communism, keep in mind we only went democratic since 1998
>-do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions? a link towards a newspaper/social media page/whatever is appreciated
No, all are banned, if there are they're probably small and stigmatized by the populace
>-do they have support within the working class?
Obviously no, especially older more religious ones
>-do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
N/A, all strands of socialism stigmatized
>-what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
N/A

 

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El Salvador
>-how are socialists organizing in your country?
lol
>-do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line and characterization of the country's particular material conditions?
fmln retardation set the country back indefinitley
>-do they have support within the working class?
lol, all prols are petite booj
>-do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
N/A, no party was full of shit
>-what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
a bullet in their collective heads rest in piss

 

Italy

> how are socialists organizing in your country?

Considerimg the lack of results, badly
> do you recognize a political party as more coherent and in its political line
No, but I am generally badly informed
> do they have support within the working class?
I wish
> do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
Deapite the overall uselessness of the current orgs we managed to have that. The ""Communist"" party or Rizzo, which allied itself with fascistoids, toiling a multipolaroid and social-chauvinist line.
> what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
What do they not lack? Good will

 

>>1853294
You got mind broken by two Palestinian chinlets. Impressive

 


 

>>1853342
whos the 1st anon?

 

>>1853351
Another chinlet lapdog identical to the current one. I believe he was the only Latin leader to send troops during the invasion of Iraq. Ironic since he was an Arab.

 

>>1853494
>>1853294
lol, i hope the volcanoes erupt and wipe out the that shit excuse of a cuntry. place gave me diarrhea

 

>>1853892
The people's genocide. Real praxis hours

 

>>1853977
>The people's genocide.
based

 

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UK.
>-how are socialists organizing in your country?
A few small portest camps, squat crews and anti-fascist actions here and there but nothing major
>-do they have support within the working class?
Depends on the region, but the populace as a whole is indifferent
>-do you think there is a particular strand of socialism in your country that is hurting the revolutionary process?
LARPing trotskyists pretending it's 1908
>-what do you think they lack in their assessments and strategies?
The desire to form a united front with other socialists and anarchists instead of being small, insular microparties.


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