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>>2100367Vtbank is also an SOE, Gazprombank is, umm, Gazprom.
So it comes down to Russia not aggressively attacking its porkies.
Russian socialism when?
>>2100369It's not SOE, RF merely owns a share in there, and cases of RF invoking majority share holder vote are exceedingly rare and mostly revolve around blocking further sale of shares to people RF doesn't like.
There's this intrusive thought amongst economists to justify "privatizations" in Russia through claiming that economy is still state-owned and not porky-owned. Those economists are the source of claims that Gazprom, Sberbank, yadda yadda are SOEs. It's like you people don't ever research anything
>>2100370RF owns a majority share in Sberbank through the SWF. Putin was nationalizing the banks in 2018.
Point is, it's basically Dengism with fascist aesthetics in Russia.
Keeping Russia fascist / succdem is a matter of appealing to redneck bigots in Europe and America, instead of letting them call Russia socialist and shrug off fake news as commie propaganda.
>>2100374This is the most retarded shit ever. Russia is liberal outside of areas that are crucial to the survival of the state.
If the state owns something, it is to ensure control over vital functions.
also >socialism is when state owns thing
>>2100374>Putin was nationalizingHe wasn't. Stop being stupid
>it's basically DengismIt's not. China's companies are majority SOEs that may have foreign shares in them, but those companies are not private. Look Deng's policies, for fuck's sake. It was an arrangement where Chinese SOEs were creating new companies on the basis of SOE-provided land, buildings, logistics, workers, etc etc, with foreigners providing technology and markets. Local self-governance in factories was never questioned by foreigners, it wasn't their fucking business. Foreigners couldn't even dictate anything beside declaring how much product they wanted shipped
>>2100377No, "socialism is when state owns things" is basically correct, but retards keep declaring that state owning a share makes it a state property
>>2100378China has a large private sector that was whittled away by Xiist reforms.
Chinese SOEs make up the majority of market cap, but SOEs include companies with substantial minority government stakes.
Russia is obviously less Xiist than Xi's China, but it's actually pretty close to Deng-Xiism.
>>2100384>China has a large private sectorNo, China has small and medium enterprise sector that's huge (but entirely dependent on large enterprise). What China has is like a huge SOE basis of the economy, which has private subcontractors
>SOEs include companies with substantial minority government stakesWestoids just blanket all companies that have "market cap", or rather are listed on sme exchange, as private, because that's LIMITATIONS OF CAPITALIST ECONOMIC THOUGHT. They don't consider it important in their system to distinguish true SOEs and collective ownership from private ownership, because uner capitalism those never constitute a sizeable share of companies
China, however, is socialist, and has *true* SOEs. Russia doesn't have those, all of it's military production is in private hands, even though there's much government oversight. Gazprom and Sberbank are private, but with majority govt shares.
>>2100385>>2100387I've explained time and time again the difference between real and fake state ownership. Deal with it
>>2100390The point is that Russian bank privatization occured in 2018.
I'm not saying that Russia is socialist, I'm saying they're proto-socialist in that many of the accoulturements of socialism already exist and it's 10-20 years reform to get Dengism.
>>2100395Classical Dengism was left fascism in stages. Whether China is socialist is always dependent on fundamental conditions in the economy.
China has, or at least had, a vibrant private sector not only of SMEs, but also large private companies like BYD.
Basically, depending on the year, in the past 30 years China has transitioned between not-socialist, barely socialist, and between the two levels.
>>2100401The key difference is that the oligarchs and apparatchiks are fighting for control of the state in Russia, and the apparatchiks are gaining ground.
For instance, foreign subsidiaries were nationalized.
Which goes back into my "proto-socialist" Russia thesis, if it weren't for maintaining the alt-right in the West, the Russians could just focus on purging liberal oligarchs and declare themselves a socialist state without too much trouble.
>>2100399>Classical Dengism was left fascism in stages.please read any marxist book on fascism there is no such thing
stop making shit up
it's like the people who scream about nazbol when that happened in Russia in the 90s for like a couple years and then immediately died after
>>2100385>>2100387>>2100384Russia is not socialist, fascist or dengist. It is a liberal country and this is evident from the stagnation of its economy, other economic indicators and its culture. Russia is very similar to west european economies in its overall trajectory (unlike other east european ones), even if the details are of course different, and capital was happy to be played for fools for exactly that reason - they saw their direct colleagues and friends in the west. This is the reason a million people died already. But America doesn't do colleagues: you either submit or get attacked, so Russia was forced into actually doing good for the world.
>>2100397China has the COMMUNIST PARTY in charge. Socialism isn't as simple as "state owns stuff". Saudi Arabia has a lot ot state-owned stuff, that's not the point. Socialism is an entirely different logic for how society operates that creates entirely different results. We see those results in China and Russia.
Even state departments like healthcare are turned into money-makers for those in charge in Russia. The culture department is notorious for being just a money printer for the right people and churning out slop no one likes. This is the same as in America, except there more money goes through it and the way the money is put into the right pockets is sometimes more mechanistic, like the health insurance system and stock buyouts.
>>2100405This shit is just silly. The overwhelming majority of people support socialism and hate bourgeois in Russia, as in, more than 60-70% say that in open polls. The alt-right was like a hundred thousand internet retards at its peak and it doesn't even exist at this point. AfD is just fine getting support from COMMUNIST CHINA. You don't know the situation.
>>2100410Read carefully what I'm saying.
Russia's economic structure is close enough to Deng-Xi socialism, but of course at best it can have a DotA without fully restoring a Communist Party to power.
Alt-right wackos are primarily supported by Russia, not China, because Russia maintains an ultraconservative social policy.
>>2100414Socialism can degenerate from a DotP to a DotA, i.e, what Mao threw China into turmoil to stop when the bureaucracy stopped representing proletarian interests.
Under systems of high state ownership, like Russia and China, the apparatchiks ARE a social class because they control or manage the means of production.
A fascist system, when there is very heavy state ownership, is a DotA, not a DotB, because the state apparatus is strong enough to resist bourgeois bribery because the DotA has tons of money sloshing around.
>>2100326>Saddest combat footage I've ever seenPresented to you by a cartoon dog addicted to social media.
I despise everything about this conflict.
China vs Russia 2019 vs 2015:
https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/449701565248091726/how-much-do-state-owned-enterprises-contribute-to-china-s-gdp-and-employment25-30% of GDP is SOE.
https://rujec.org/article/27978/Russia: 35% of GDP is SOE.
Basically, the main difference is that Russia doesn't keep oligarchs on a tight leash, and China still has a Communist Party.
So, China vs Russia comes out to DotP vs DotA on the political, not economic level. Both China and Russia have crap social spending.
>>2100435We're discussing the social aspects of the war on one of the principal belligerants, as well as the socioeconomic basis of Russia.
Russia has state-ownership and a politico-economic structure comparable to China's, but does not maintain a DotP in the form of a Communist Party like China does.
That is all.
>>2100431Read theory. Apparatchiks are not a class, that's just not how this works. Class is more fundamental than liberals think, it is an entirely different way of life. An apparatchik is a MANAGER. Managers are not a separate class, they are merely a stratum within the working class that is more prone to bourgeois influence. This is widely documented: they couldn't act like bourgeois before the Soviet Union fell.
Neither does Russia maintain an "ultraconservative" social policy. Russia is a liberal country and this, too, is obvious when you see the actual society and culture. Russia has one of the highest divorce rates in the world.
>>2100415"Economic structure" is not the important thing when it comes to determining the formation. There are many countries where the state owns more than 30% or 50% of the economy. You take liberal terms and try to explain the world with them. That's not how this works, there is a reason why Marxists use Marxist language.
>>2100415Russia is not proto socialist. It promotes state ownership that is common in the most acutely anti western states due to national sovereignty issues.
The alt right lacks international support. There are national conservative parties which have ties to emerging powers to leverage independence from the EU, ideologically they are more closely aligned with Israel. You see this from Trump to Orban. Russian conservatism is overstated, it's well within the norm for its development level and only gets admiration as a contrast due to its place within Europe. Same as Poland. Russian media likes western right media because it publicly self criticizes the West after the refugee crisis and reliance on immigration to plug holes in post 2008 growth issues, which betrays divisive uneven growth and decline. Liberals declaring a culture war to deal with how global capitalism divided bourgeois democracy cemented this. Russia and China do not turn away from global capitalism and want more of it, they're just completely disinterested in the liberal conclusion it was supposed to achieve. This is qualitatively different from the right in the West, which lost interest in liberalizing further because tearing down barriers to capitalism no longer generate returns on growth for the nation and a privileged place as a first world economy.
Kek chatgpt can greentext the story of the 155th
>Be Ukraine
>Have big plans to create new brigades
>Call one the 155th, sounds cool, right?
>March 2024: “We’ll get France to train these guys, it’ll be epic.”
>Reality: no command staff, no soldiers, no weapons, no plan
>Recruit 46 people in March, lose 3 to desertion already
>"OK, we're scaling this bad boy up!"
>April to November: numbers balloon to 5832
>Desertion also balloons—1,700 gone AWOL before they even hit the front
>"Send them to France, they’ll come back elite."
>France: "Wait, why are 70% of these guys basically civilians?"
>50 soldiers vanish into the French countryside because… why not?
>Meanwhile in Ukraine
>Random recruits dumped into the brigade with zero training
>commanders still sipping espresso in Paris
>Army HQ decides, “Hey, let’s deploy these untrained troops to Pokrovsk!”
>new toys from France destroyed immediately
>Ukrainian-made mortar ammo = dud.exe
>Brigade folds faster than cheap IKEA furniture
>General HQ: “What went wrong? Must be the commander’s fault.”
>Fires commander who literally wasn’t even there
>Experienced brigades nearby: "We’ve got battle-hardened troops. Reinforce us, and we can stabilize the front!"
>Command: "Nah, we need fresh brigades for Zelensky's PR campaigns."
>Result: brigade annihilated
>PR campaign also annihilated
>Allies and taxpayers: “This is where our money went?”
>Journalist Butusov: "Congrats, leadership. You turned a vanity project into a bloodbath.”
>Ukrainian SBI does investigation
>Files under ‘not our problem’
>Russia: “Thanks for the free breakthrough.”
>Moral of the story vanity projects and poorly planned PR stunts don’t win wars.
>>2100497Then, is China socialist? The main difference between China and Russia is DotP. Every other element of socio-economic structure matches.
If, say, Putin was ruling through CPRF and kept policies constant, would you argue that Russia is socialist?
At the very least, strength of porkies is understated in China and overstated in Russia.
>>2100539https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/15/russia-risks-return-to-planned-economy-central-bank-a81518China officially claims to be in the primary stage of socialism, as much as socialism is a primary stage of communism. Read up on the definition of SWCC.
As for Russia, that's the Central Bank Governor stating that if Russia wants to hit the planned economy button tomorrow, it can.
>>2100562>tacticool nazi decked out in westoid equipment gets solo'd by an older yakut wielding a traditional hunting knifeTrue
HURRRRMMMM moment
>>2100562Looking at the whole thing, the words they exchanged after fighting like beasts made me realize honor is a coping mechanism. Those it's you or me situations is a crude reminder we're just animals in the end, but we just
have to find meaning beyond that.
> What is your instinct?
<to pray!
> in this position your arms are useless, yeah, kick or stomp. You know you wish to survive.
> What do you do?
<I don't know.
>Bite, bite.
> Are we not animals?
< Hmm, I can't find much evidence to the contrary.
> By biting is efficient in close-quarter. Don't make a plan of biting; that is a very good way to lose your teeth.
< there is so much to remember…
>if you try to remember, you will lose!
>Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water.
> Now, you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. Put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
>Now, water can flow or queen or drip or crash. Be water, my friend.
> You are not ready. No, like everyone else. You want to learn the way to win, but never to accept the way to lose. To accept defeat, to learn to die, is to be liberated from it.
> So when tomorrow comes, you must free your ambitious mind and learn the art of dying.
>>2100811The regular SEALS (not the more elite team 6) got banned from Afghanistan at one point for being retards who would just charge in instead of doing mission prep.
These guys really believe they are all elite super soldiers due to movies when in reality most of them have less experience than a regular army sergeant.
>>2100817Mercouris is so slowwwwwwww. Do people seriously spend over an hour a day listening to him?
Imagine you really need to take a shit and he's using the only toilet available.
>>2100912this is what i do. it took a little getting used to at first, but now i can't even listen to him at normal speed.
i also sometimes skip the front line report which can cut like 20-30 mins
>>2100903It depends. Sometimes I listen to him in spurts, sometimes I put him on as background noise.
Personally I like the pace. Not like he couldn't do with a bit of editing, but at least this gives people a chance to process the information he's providing.
>>2100953How the hell would anyone here know?
If Moldova had the resources to do it alone then at this point they probably would have. I doubt Ukraine could be substantially involved either considering what its current circumstances are. There was talk earlier in the war of Ukraine attacking to seize the Soviet weapons apparently stored there but nothing ever came of it.
There's already stories of Ukraine basically fielding ghost battalions on the front because either everyone is dead or has deserted them, meanwhile whatever is left of their best resources is getting chewed up in Kursk. If there is a hostile move it's going to require an occupation force to keep a lid on it, otherwise it's just stirring up trouble that neither Moldova nor Ukraine seem to want at the moment. Moldova rigged the elections to get their natocuck capo into office but they're not part of nato yet, so inviting nato there as "peace keepers" would probably be seen by Russia as a. escalation.
So I don't know, with such larger fish to fry I don't think anyone has anything to gain from launching an operation? that's supposed to do?? something??? If it's about getting Ukraine more weapons whatever has been captured in Syria will probably amount to more than whatever is in transnistria, but even with the weapons it's not like they have the people ro use them.
So, what do you think? Is Moldova hankering to get kalibrated for no reason and very little gain?
>>2100969The need to pacify the area after “liberation” would be the issue. The people there want to be part of the RF and not Moldova. There isn’t going to be any welcoming parades for the news.
If Ukraine retook the Donbas or Crimea they’d be able to round up some grateful crowds at least out of fear of wanting to avoid CBT for being a collaborator.
>>2100977Yeah, like I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility for something to happen there. The Biden admin seems to be trying to stir up trouble for Russia anywhere they can, so I could see them lighting some fires there just to give Putin something else to think about. It's hard to imagine Moscow being affected by it much though in any case. The biggest potential problem for them seems to be nato troops getting in there somehow, but that seems to me like it would have a negligible effect on the overall war since they're already in Ukraine and have been getting killed anyway.
Really it seems like it would just be a headache for nato in the long term anyway if it was "liberated." Moldova doesn't have the resources to hold it themselves and it's likely after the war Russia is going to be right on their doorstep.
All the same, just because the plan is stupid and short sighted doesn't mean that nato won't do it.
>>2101024Or wait is there some dumb word filter on?
transhumanisting
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>>2101016https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.htmldeveloping first strike capability may have been a part of the project, but probably far down the list. the main point was to create security crises for russia and see what they do. if they do nothing you just surround them with military bases, repeat the project in every country around russia and strangle economically until there's a political crisis and putin is replaced by a cuck government that will cry uncle and let you plunder them again (and that will also split from China so you can repeat the project against them in asia).
Or, if they fight you do what we've seen, sanction them and cut them off from europe and keep ukraine fighting and try to create the political crisis that way, to the same purpose. If the primary goal fails, as it has so far, at least you get to cuck europe.
The point of having Ukraine in NATO was/is the destruction of the RF and the return of 90's Russia.
>>2100811Green Berets IS special forces. The modern spec ops was finalized near the end of Vietnam where they wanted "elite units of few professional soldiers behind enemy lines" instead of mass conscription and their tactics were doing Dirlewanger shit to "strategic hamlets" aka concentration camps where they press gang locals into death squads aka "force multiplication" to kill off other locals. They did the same thing in Guatemala Iraq and Afghanistan.
When you think Seals you shouldn't think "elite" or "cringe" you should think of the barn scene from Come and See cause thats exactly what they do.
>>2100483Then that's a flaw in Marxism.
Apparatchiks in socialist countries ARE a class because they're the ones who control MoP.
They can raise their own salaries, give themselves perks, etc.
A DotP is constantly under threat of descending into DotA as the managerial class threatens to go rogue.
>>2101125> The latest definition of Russia’s nuclear doctrine was as tough as tough can be. It seems that the Putin government has turned a corner, something which the longtime critic of Putin’s gentlemanly ways, Paul Craig Roberts, celebrates in his latest web essay.<Check date of publication<September 30, 2024<ATACMS authorized November 18th 2024HAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE COPE
Emperor with No Clothes situation except every blogger has to seethe and pretend that Cucktin is some mega genius fixing things when in reality he just keeps bluffing and getting called out on his bluffs.
Yuri Shvets alleged he was recruited by the KGB in the 1980s when he left to live in Russia permanently.[3] However, Victor Cherkashin claims that Helmer was unaware that Shvets was a KGB officer, and that Cherkashin himself called Shvets off. Later, after Shvets' concerns attracted controversy, Cherkashin confirmed that Helmer was not an agent.[4]
Helmer has been based in Moscow since 1989 and, from there, has worked for Australian Financial Review, The Australian and other newspapers.[5]
Writing in the New Jersey Star Ledger, journalist Dave D'Alessandro described Helmer as, "the journalist residing in Moscow who has been a pebble in Mikhail Prokhorov’s shoe since oligarchs have been collecting their billions under the protection of a corrupt, Fascist state…. the kind of journalist who turns up dead once a month or so inside Putin's Russia." And also as, "a fascinating and talented fellow, if not a fair bit over the top in his pursuit of truths."[5]
>>2101217Glowie and illegitimate sources:
Wikipedia
Blue haired women
When people protest in countries that have government I like
Not glowie and legitimate sources:
FSB
The American Communist Party
Twitter accounts with flags of countries that have governments I like
>>2101269 (me)
>transhumanistedwtf is that wordfilter.
>>2101314>his arm is completely lacerated and will never fully healThat's your typical telegram bullshitter, true. If you actually compare hands, you'll see that person in question doesn't have a cut between his big and index fingers like on the photo with lacerations
>and he's shell-shocked afNow that's just NAFO copium
>>2101322TL;DW translate of video?
thx
>>2101359>I stabbed him with the knife, but I had blood everywhere - coming from here and here - so it slipped when I struck, and the knife went like this [cutting his palm] So he [the ukrainian] went and grabbed the knife<When he struck me in the ear, I was holding the knife like this. Cut two fingers. Then I was holding like this while he was trying to take out his own knife. Then as he was lying down, I saw a piece of a broken tile, kind of like a knife. I took that shard and stabbed him in the eye, so he released my knife in pain, and I struck him here, towards the back of the head, but the knife slipped on his spine. So the first blow wasn't that severe, but with the second one I struck the side of his neck, and that finished him off.>Then he realized he could no longer do anything. He asked me to leave him alone to say farewell to his mom and the sky. "You've already killed me", he said, "You're the best fighter in the world, thank you". I mean, when I released him, he said this… And…well, they teach us - Russians, Yakuts - from childhood that you should remain human in every situation. >>2101535This is a Meteor 75 racing drone. They can carry no weight, have short range and 4 minutes of battery endurance. Never used in, or by Ukraine.
In other news, you are watching a home video.
>>2101914they are burning the faces off of dead north koreans
kim jing un gave dem suicide notes
HURR
>>2101968the entire video of the trade union massacre is on youtube
many articles have been written about the role of the US and nazis in the maidan. this joke is aimed at the ignorant I guess
>>2101934I think that happened? Now that Communists and Multipolaristas control the MoP, where capitalists still stand is in funny money, aka financial dominance.
The Ruble fell massively before it recovered, possibly a combination of RCB and PBOC intervention.
>>2102053No one here sees a problem with it. When we heard the original rumours we expected it might be a couple of weeks before they were involved in Kursk. That would be completely legal for them to do under INTERNATIONAL LAW.
It's just fun to mock what look like complete fakes because the Ukrops are trying to spook America and Europ into more aid.
>>2102063There is footage of Juche Super Soldiers at a transhumanisting camp and of some officers in Moscow.
But yeah good thing to keep in mind with how schizo the Worst Korea president tried to declare martial law because all his opponents are NorK infiltrations lmao
>>2102065i haven't heard about that yet
show footage bb i'm a footage fetishist
>>2102065>transhumanisting campJannies are so fucking retarded I stg.
The split was the worst thing to ever happen to this site.
>>2102067https://x.com/den_kazansky/status/1847197620906709087(I just picked the least Ukraine flagged one)
It was geolocated to Russian far east. There is another one from a few days later of what looks like a Russian military building interior with NorKs being issued new gear.
This was before the NorKs all coomed to death after being issued smart phones and seeing pornography for the first time.
>>2102097probably to try and catch dumb people hiding and recrooot, same reason why they give out $10 in welfare or whatever if you register with a government app
looney tunes country
>>2102183oops, sorry. you're right. the caveat is IF there is no negotiated settlement of the war in ukraine, which may be of interest to the US in order to A) undermine Trump and lay Ukrainian collapse at his fseet B) preclude European normalization with Russia C) exacerbate BRICS incoherence given that one member is occupying Ukrainian-speaking areas
Merc said the whole of Ukraine, which I don't think is possible, but it doesn't have to be the entirety of Ukraine swallowed up. Just a rump utterly dependent on Europe, rejecting of Russia, and needing European security guarantees (which may by the last way to sneak in NATO expansion in a very limited way)
>>2102258Call Pope Francis
The first Judaizer saint of the modern era!
>>2100988It seems like Zelensky's big brain move is too just cut off gas to transnistria and let the chips fall where they may.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/01/3/7491929/https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/breakaway-moldovan-regions-power-plant-switches-coal-after-gas-cutoff-2025-01-02/https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2025/01/3/7201775/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/01/03/why-ukraine-gas-pipeline-closure-moscow-biggest-defeat/More importantly though it seems like a big blow to the EU. The story right now seems to be that everything will be all right as long as it doesn't get too cold, but cutting off gas can't be good for the economy. The press is billing this as an epic win over Moscow but imo it's more of a strike against Europe, either punishing them for not doing more to help or extorting them in order to turn the gas back on.
>>2102489Yes, Burgeristan didnt invade Iraq for oil but sure as hell oil was a big component of it.
Gas sector in burgeristan was dying a death just before the war only to suddenly go boom because they found some sellers buying at literally 4x the price.
Building LNGs terminals was considered financially stupid in Europe, however was sound from a security point of view. But somehow in the end they are making a lot of profit.
>>2102539Bitch better have my money
With my mind on the money and the money on my mind
>>2102560you win a war by taking a country intact, not by bleeding it dry and blowing it to smithereens. Theres not a hamlet left untouched in novorussiya.
the russian army will win the war theres no one arguing differently, but at this point you are literally have yet to show its at all worth it. This is not a war with a 10-1 death ratio. Its more like 4-1. The longer that goes the more strain on Russia and the harder the post-war diplomacy will be. Russia does not have infinite amount of men either.
There are ways to win the war that involve losing the peace, and Russia is guaranteed to regret this war for decades to come. Ukrainians and Russians are practically the same people but now they are nemesis. Yeah yeah, the 'west' turned ukraine against Russia. But Russia has walked right into the trap.
Also, to point out, the Russians are learning and getting better.
Consider the Korean War, which you'd also consider a loss for the Chinese. However, with the combat experience garnered, the Chinese were able to provide the decisive artillery support for Dien Bien Phu, helping lead the way to North Vietnamese victory in the American Vietnamese war.
Likewise, once Ukraine is forced to become a neutral, demilitarized country, how effective do you think Russians will be globally? Perhaps it'll be Russian troops putting Assad back in charge once the Israelis are fed up with HTS. Perhaps it'll be Russian troops stopping an American invasion of Iran.
Because when you think of it, the ammunition factories producing 4 million shells a year won't stop once Ukraine surrenders. The drone factories putting out 1.6 million drones a year won't stop either.
I'd suggest NATO put in their own troops and equipment into Ukraine, but even if Putin doesn't want to end the war with nukes, the Chinese are effectively backstopping Putin and the PLA is a perfect complement to the Russian attrition army; they are high-tech aerial firepower.
>>2102609>Perhaps it'll be Russian troops putting Assad back in charge once the Israelis are fed up with HTSOK let's not get ahead of ourselves. That would be as disastrous as the Afghanistan War.
>Perhaps it'll be Russian troops stopping an American invasion of Iran.That is possible if they create a pact.Perhaps in the CSTO. But Russia may have reservation for committing fully to a pact
>>2102616They're both SCO countries, which is effectively an ODP (optional defense pact).
The opportunity to waste American and Israeli lives in Iran is golden; Russia just needs to switch to Iranian / Afghani cannon fodder from Russian ones.
Remember, the Russian military system is based on Putin paying you phat bucks to play Russian roulette in Donbass.
>>2102617Also, more realistically, why hasn't CUCKATO sent in the F-35s yet? CUCKATO IS a rational actor; hell, the carnage the Chinese delivered (while taking heavier casualties) in Korea stopped the US from trying to blitzkrieg North Vietnam.
That is an example of an adversary country earning the US's respect by its willingness to take massive casualties in opposing the US, while giving the US a bloody nose.
>>2102627Then Russia gives nukes to Iran, Cuba, and Mexican cartels.
Demon King this, Demon King that.
Look, we're all going to die, so why not have some fun?
End of the day, Nixon went to China to negotiate despite operating on a madman theory of negotiation, as Trump did.
>>2102637that is probably the idea
REMIND THEM WHY THEY NEED US
>>2102639Also, just to point out, back in the day, it was the Soviets who proposed a joint nuclear operation on the Chinese nuclear program before they got their first nuke.
So, don't assume Ukrainian nukes won't result in deterrence, instead of an actual nuclear exchange.
>>2102645I mean, CIPSO poster, Project Ukraine IS negotiable.
The point is, this war is not between Ukraine and Russia, or even NATO vs Russia. It's between China and America, and Russia and Ukraine are both proxies.
If you follow the news, Chinese aid to Russia is ramping up, so besides the nukes, everything is counterable, and the nukes can be preemptively nuked outn
Russia's problem is that they do not have enough shells, and do not have enough planes. If Trump gives Ukraine everything, China gives Russia everything, because China cannot afford for Russia to lose.
>>21025826 million Ukrainians have fled to Europe, 5 million have gone to Russia. A majority of remaining Ukrainians think the war should end already with negotiations. It might be Russians killing UAF personnel, but it's Zelensky's goons which are packing them in the trenches and nato equipped nazis which have their gun barrels in their backs.
Imo after this war ends all the people that are mad at Russia instead of the people actually responsible will be seething in the latest rump addition to the butthurt belt, Galicia or Banderastan or whatever they decide to call it, while novorussia enjoys the economic benefits of Russia's autarky and Eastern orientation. Galicia will languish because the economic crisis Europe has made for itself will mean no easy cash, which the rest of Europe probably wouldn't want to give anyway after taking in millions of Ukrainian refugees already.
In Russia the whole thing will take on a tragic veneer, but with a strong economy no one will really care after a generation. They'll view the transition from post Soviet bad times to a revival after reunification with Russia as something to celebrate. The only ones that will care about these abstract dead relatives will be whatever sods are left in Galicia to beg for nato handouts after everyone else left to find work.
>>2102655Imagine that the US still has the ability to do this, given the massive corruption in DoD and the incompetence in Congress.
Then imagine that the US production won't get bombed by long-range Chinese and Russian hypersonics.
I mean, we can just drag out the Posadists on our side, but you are asking for WW3.
And mind you, the last few times the US actually had industrial production, it wasn't up to its eyeballs in debt
>>2102676The US has anemic steel production and is reliant on China for rare earths, which China just sanctioned.
The American industrial base is primarily aerospace, and when it comes to shipyards, it's outproduced 10 to 1.
I mean, you're basically CIPSO-tier trolling, it's just so generically ignorant, like when the Ukrainian FM went to China and didn't even bring a Chinese interpreter.
During the COVID era, there was massive unrest
In the US due to supply chain interruptions. Imagine in actual wartime, with the US printing money. If the news from the front isn't good (and Western mercs have stated that NATO troops actually need retraining due to the different nature of the artillery war), how long do you think Americans will put up with the inflation?
Hell, even in peacetime, the inflation did in Biden.
>>2102691there are millions of empty houses?
>>2102690America owns south America
>>2102693Another victory for the #axisofresistance
>>2102680Russia didn't sell off all their munitions plants for scrap, nor get rid of key industries.
The primarily seller of explosives to the US and Europe was an explosives plant in Ukraine. IIRC the US has ONE reserve explosives manufacturing plant that isn't fully online yet. It's like their ONE tank factory.
>>2102718even worse source, boomer clickbait news sites.
like are you actually retarded enough to think a wrench will stop the next world war?
>>2102655>You act like America didn't drop more shells on North Vietnam than all previous wars including world war 2 combined.They had to go round up shells and bombs they'd left rotting on Pacific islands since WWII for that. It almost cost them two aircraft carriers due to accidents with decayed explosives.
I think you just don't get how economic rationalisation and outsourcing completely hollowed out the US industrial base. I know an American engineer and they can't get simple parts made in the US for less than 10x of China.
The US industrial might in WWII was based on turning the existing civilian industry over to military production. The US doesn't have millions of lathe operators that can start turning out shells now. All this kind of production has become highly automated with very specialist machinery which simply cannot be re-purposed like a WWII era factory could.
>>2102716In dollars. Most of that is aerospace and precision weapons. Or remanufactured Abrams using hulls from 1992.
Having all those F-35s with fancy missiles feels nice but every Western military analyst group admits their country has only a few weeks of munitions.
>>2102728This is why I'm saying CUCKATO should man up and send troops into Cuckraine.
We have had a partial demonstration that Western equipment isn't all it's cracked up to be, since dead Leopards litter Ukraine. F-16s get shot down.
Now we need a demonstration that Western military might isn't what it looks like on paper, when the US pays 2.4 billion for an Arleigh Burke outclassed by a 1 billion Type 055.
>>2102743do you want to know what the difference is?
there is no proof of russians being sent to fight with shovels whereas we have evidence the factory did indeed blow up
>>2102749They already blocked gallium exports, with gallium being a key material for radars.
And yeah, most countries, including the US and Germany, adopted a command economy during wartime. Except some were more efficient than others; the Tigers and Panthers took 2x the work hours of Shermans, which took 10x the work hours of T-34s.
>>2102759They already put export controls on gallium, a key material for radios and radars, with China producing 90% of the world total, in the past few months.
You're sort of stupid, aren't you?
>>2102745Yeah, I read that article too. That's not the only legacy system that they're having trouble maintaining because of a lack of documentation.
What is even more incredible is that this flaw seems built in to the F-35, which requires contractors to repair proprietary components. Imagine if the US did get into a war with China, and China cruise missiled the plane carrying all the contractors out to Japan or whatever to fix the 35s there. So much for that.
>>2102773you won't have hyperinflation if everyone has a job making weapons and China and Russia are in ruins. It would literally be a great reset.
>>2102775no, but you act like the U.S. government can't just tell the Fed to print more money forever and use fictious capital to offset paying it infinitely. Don't Worry the U.S. national debt wont pass 50 trillion. Right? Right?
>>2102775Ehh, it's MMT ideology which says you can print money as stealth taxation. "Modern Monetary Theory".
Except, as I stated, MMT cost Biden-Harris the election.
>>2102776then who produces the food? Is food a weapon?
Look, you're on a board with Marxists who often have the most inane economic ideas, but you're worse. Congratulations on the achievement. It takes talent.
>>2102766In theory it's happening now. Both the US and EU have given their mics billions to expand shell production.
The only problem is that those mics have said in non uncertain terms that they're not going to. Actually expanding production would mean taking all that money they got and putting it into new factories, new training, and new infrastructure to really make it happen. They don't want to do that though because by the time all that work is done the war is very likely going to be over and the demand for those shells likely won't exist. They're even more unwilling to do that because the current demand has caused the price of shells to ten times what it was before the war. So from a profit standpoint it really doesn't make sense for them.
That's not even getting into the other problems inherent in it, like construction delays. Toyota is building an EV battery plant in North Carolina. The first production building only recently went into very limited production after finally being completed almost two years behind schedule. I'd read that there is supposed to be new shell factories being made in the US, but even assuming that's true if they're completed and producing before the end of the decade it would be a miracle.
>>2102791and is that working? no
remember that time intel was given money to increase domestic chip manufacturing and then laid off a bunch of people instead? where are the shells?
WHERE? >>2102870Yes and there is a sequel. In the neoliberal period there has been a shift to a heavily financialized service economy with a more concentrated labor aristocracy, the benefits of living in the core have been concentrated in a smaller elite.
I have a few disagreements with Hudson I won't belabor here, but he gives the best historical account of the kind of monetary imperialism Lenin theorized I have found. Also read Neocolonialism by Nkrumah and Dialectics of Dependency by Ruy Mauro Marini maybe first IDK they're more important to me. Also Value Chains by Intan Suwandi is p good. Im not trying to be snarky I really do think these books will save everyone a ton of bitching to each other online
>>2102676rly tho
>Washington’s problems continue to stem from its private industry-dominated military industrial base, which favors profits over purpose and performance, preferring small numbers of expensive weapon systems over large volumes of simple but effective equipment.
>The problem all of these systems share is the same dependence on over-engineered technology produced by a small supporting industrial capacity incapable of large-scale production. There is a similar deficiency in supplying the large quantities of ammunition required to meet the demands exhibited on the battlefield in Ukraine. CNN, for example, in a March 11, 2024 article would note that Russia alone is producing at least 3 times more artillery ammunition than the US and Europe combined.
>No matter how capable any of these systems may be, including additional improvements made as part of the US Army’s ongoing program, if respective military industrial bases are incapable of replacing them faster than they are removed from a future battlefield as they are in Ukraine today, their capabilities will make little difference in any potential conflict’s ultimate outcome.
>Despite this reality taking clear shape, US planners still cling to the myth of superior American innovation and the role private industry plays in lending the US this supposed advantage.
>A recent US National Defense Industrial Strategy (NDIS) report noted the many shortcomings of the current US military industrial base, many of which the report admitted stemmed from private industry, but insisted that private industry was part of the solution rather than the source of the problem.
>Because the US military industrial base is dominated by private industry whom Washington serves, industry profits, not actual capabilities, remains the top priority. As long as this equation persists, the US will continue attempting to solve emerging problems by applying the same flawed mindset that is creating these problems in the first place.https://journal-neo.su/2024/03/26/the-growing-weakness-of-western-artillery-capabilities/also picrel
https://www.csis.org/analysis/rebuilding-us-inventories-six-critical-systemsand
https://features.csis.org/preparing-the-US-industrial-base-to-deter-conflict-with-China/and
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/05/07/wsj-the-u-s-military-relies-on-one-louisiana-factory-it-blew-up/ >>2102970This retard is what you get when you mix ignorance with hubris. It explains why Germany/France swore russian economy would be in tatters, and now, Russia gdp grew by 4.1% while Germany entered a prolonged recession. The way to measure the actual production/output of a country is by ppp and industry share.
GDP PPP ; China : 39 T , US : 26 T , Russia : 8 T.
https://www.worldeconomics.com/Rankings/Economies-By-Size.aspx Industrial Share of economy ; China : 40% , US : 19% , Russia : 36%.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_sector_composition >>2102988>US/UK/France less industrial employment than Poland, Russia, Vietnam Kek
No wonder BRICS is gathering industrial, agricultural, and natural resource producers into a subversive alterglobalization coalition
>>2102994>Ziggas counting on Trump Why do people repeat this when every post election signal from Russia is the opposite
Putin has literally said for years it doesn't matter who is in office, it's the men in suits always taking them back and having them change their positions after saying one thing to Putin
Xi also believes the WH says one thing and does another
Presidencies likely don't make a difference with major powers, but on the margins i.e. Trump being more dangerous for Latin America, Biden being more dangerous for EU divisions
The only exception to this I see is how Biden was able to rally establishment forces to cleanly divide the world and escalate every flashpoint, that was unique to post covid, post trump conditions. Trump can't undo this, he may locally want to deescalate with Russia but the conflict merged with global conflict too much
>>2102580>Theres not a hamlet left untouched in novorussiya.because NATO refused a reasonable peace on Russia's border, poured in armaments, and marched a generation of Ukrainians into a meatgrinder at gunpoint. All this after decades empowering the fascist right and pouring in billions on psyops. This is a war of a declining US/NATO hegemon attempting destablizationon the border of a near peer. Russia is now well placed to supply security to other countries in LatAm and Africa when the hegemon spasms in their direction, like it's doing in Argentina, Panama, Venezuela and fucking Canada lol.
>There are ways to win the war that involve losing the peaceThis war is a battle in the global realignment away from Western extractive hegemony. Russia is "winning" that war and bringing countries along with it. It's all BRICS.
>>2103166A fucking yoda?
I am telling you losers, and you don't get it. America is a propaganda superpower and Russia or China simply cannot compete. They will eventually sell themselves the same way gorbie sold ussr for pizza.
>>2103070I saw somewhere that Zelensky's justification for this is apparently it "impresses" the global south that Ukraine has taken a sliver of Russian territory and Russia "can't do anything about it".
That's obviously absurd, but clearly the global south generally supporting Russia is something that Ukrainians assert to themselves as the reason for why they haven't been able to defeat Russia, that Russia is still standing because the global south has failed to join in with isolating them I guess, which I assume is reasoned to be because it "looks" to them like Russia is winning and thus it'd be a bad move sour relations with them over Ukraine.
>>2103191This reminds me of "when Bakhmut falls, there is nothing behind it"
They can always paint for yellow dots on that map
>>2103189What a lying ignorant piece of shit you are
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DGGxQ7KVMHs the USSR gdp was over 60% of the US in the early 70s, even the CIA sources say it.
>>2103201China is building up its media. It's mostly having success with video games.
Also the key to the US soft power is how rich the working people are. Even among the Anglo countries Americans have been wealthier than their counter-parts since sometime in the 19th century. People don't want to go to America because of Hollywood, but because what Hollywood advertises is mostly backed by substance.
You can't just do a movie that makes middle-income countries like China or Russia more attractive.
>>2103216Tbh I think the decline across the entire developed world started in the 1970s, thus why the 1980s involved both the Capitalist and Communist worlds having significant political and economic upheavals.
Hot take but I think a lot of the development throughout the 20th century depended on oil being an endlessly desired and stable commodity that both the oil crisis, the intentional oil price crash, nuclear power seemingly having been perfected and the discovery of global warming shook that fundamental assumption about oil that economies were backed by.
>>2103216Gdp DOES matter, the way the US gdp is inflated, is by having the dollar be worth more than it should, by the amount of trade the US does, while other countries (like Russia, India) have severely undervalued ones, what turn nominal gdp meaningless. Another way american gdp is inflated, is the hyperfinancialized companies, whose speculative value is much greater than its actual output, where a factory that makes 100 tires a year, is worth a million. there are other ways but these are the main ones.
>>2103224it doesn't matter. British Empire was fine with their metrics, for example, which were showing that Britain is top of the world economically, and USA a distant second. When USA became de facto first, GDP became the norm, evne though British Empire's decrepit economic metrics still were #1. And in GDP, USA was #1
Today we see something similar already, GDP PPP replacing nominal GDP everywhere
>muh currency excange ratePffffft
>>2103225You're a stupid idiot aren't you ? You think exchange rates don't affect nominal gdp 🤣 what a buffoon.
>>2103212In April 1988, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency told the Joint Economic Committee of Congress that the Soviet economy had grown by approximately 2 percent yearly from 1981 to 1985, by 2.2 percent yearly from 1976 to 1980, by 3.1 percent yearly from 1971 to 1975, and by 5 percent yearly from 1966 to 1970 (U.S. Central Intelligence Agency 1988, 61
>>2103223Indeed, I think the writing was on the wall for oil and while communism cannot support either imperialism or the off-shoring of work, capitalism obviously can. So it's no real skin off the US' nose to crash the price of oil, if they were intending to utilise the resulting death of the USSR and presumably the PRC to create a unipolar world where they'd imperialised the entire world anyway. They come away flush with a cheap commodity and cheap post-Communist labour and a global market without competitors, GDP therefore naturally explodes, the fact the western proletariat obviously lose out here and suffer the death of
consumer capitalism is fine, ideal even since now "there is no alternative" and even if they wanted to seize the means of production, it's all gone.
>>2103227>>2103229So, let me explain something
2%, 3$ or 5$ GDP growth rates don't matter in the slightest. What was killing USSR was food supply increasing slower than population. Stalin's highly mechanized agrarian sector of the economy was strangled by losing youth, forced to finance adventurist campaigns such as virgin lands, and on top of that they were forced to buy industrial goods they had no use for. Final nail into the coffin was Gorbachyov's campaign of building a house for every villager, which has finally murdered what was left of productive collective farms. It became more economically reasonable to import grain from other side of the world than to grow it at home
Nothing of this was described in GDP metrics. Because GDP is fucking stupid
>>2103201Russia and China are pretty popular in the global south, i.e, uyghurland.
They're just not attractive nor are likely to be attractive up north.
>>2103229Soviet gnp peaked at 62% of the US in 1970, but westerners continue the propaganda that the USSR had 1/3 of American economy
https://samlib.ru/t/temezhnikow_e_a/mb1970.shtml When it came to cars the USSR was shameful though, only about 10% of households had one by 1979 (vs 14% for the UK in 1951, and 60% for US in 1929)
https://www.rbth.com/history/331220-soviet-private-cars >>2103230https://www.rbth.com/history/331825-saudi-arabia-oil-crisis-ussr-collapse >>2103062There are some things to note about these maps, something for everyone to bitch about:
1. Russia is successfully grinding down the Ukros. The Western MSM has been admitting Ukraine's manpower problem for months.
2. squatsons, GeromanAT, and those kinds of vocal Z mappers are completely useless whenever they mention final defensive lines and big-arrow collapse. It will eventually happen, likely after a dozen more retarded miscalls.
3. I think everyone sane agrees that the Kursk operation was a failure for Ukraine, though the fact that Ukraine managed to get 50,000+ troops into Kursk and dig their heels in for half a year certainly raises questions.
>>2103276I wouldn't say it's too retarded to think this or that failure for Ukraine represents the "last hurdle" to their collapse and Russia's victory, because ultimately few wars have been won by literally grinding the enemy into extinction, 'collapse" isn't necessarily everyone falling over weeping and sucking their thumb after a despaired realisation that all is lost, collapse is just the point where defence is difficult enough that offensive action (provided you're actually moving in the direction you need to be moving in) is untenable, at which point you'd expect surrender.
But when exactly that surrender comes is entirely up to the leadership of the enemy. I think by the time of the Battle of the Bulge, Germany was pretty fucked and had functionality collapsed and yet its leadership decided on an offensive that surprise surprise didn't achieve anything despite the initial success the element of surprise achieved. Japan had been driven all the way to its mainland, it too had completely collapsed and the chances of it ever pushing the conflict back into the Pacific was nil, nevertheless, the US created a huge surplus of purple heart medals expecting a very tough and bloody invasion of Japan.
Basically, wars a lost well before the losing side wants to admit it, flashy but pointless invasions of Kursk is of course just Ukraine trying to deny what is apparent.
>>2103276>squatsons, GeromanAT, and those kinds of vocal Z mappers are completely useless whenever they mention final defensive lines and big-arrow collapse. Only watch Military Summary and follow Suriyak Maps, even DeepstateUA as long as they can operate, they are pro-Ukraine but they don't bullshit you; obviously Z gang and NAFO OSINT acounts are not to be trusted.
Military Summary draws pro-Russian and pro-Ukraine sources, doesn't change the map unless there was an actual geolocation or an official memo by the Ukrainian or Russian MoD, and uses information from information from the ground by telegram bloggers. They missed a few times, but not because they had a bias or were looking for clickbait.
>>2103318List of countries that tried to fight with us that got fucked up:
>USSR<bribed the elites and destroyed it lol>Yugoslavia<incited ethnic conflict and blamed it all on the Serbs lol>Libya<One air campaign and Gaddafi was executed on live tv lol>Iraq<Blew up everything that moved and left the rest to the mudslimes to fight it out lol>Afghanistan<Ok I'll give you this one we fucked up but it was just to increase heroin production there wasn't anything really strategic about this war>Sudan<Carved in half with a civil war lol>Yemen<Starving to death at the moment but they like to cope by hitting civilian shipping traffic which we can re-route elsewhere lol>Gaza<Successfully genocided by Israel; Zionism wins; Greater Israel wins; we get an even bigger base/weapons testing zone in the Middle East lol >Iran<Will be destroyed or color revolutioned by the end of Trump's next term ;p;>Syria<Our greatest allies (Al Qaeda) took out the last Baathist :)REMAINING COUNTRIES IN THE MVLTIPOLARIST CHINK RUSSKIE MUDSLIME LATINO AXIS OF SEETHE:
>China<Scared as fuck after watching Russia get BTFO in Ukraine and will not attack Taiwan for the next 100 years>Russia<Currently bogged down in a never ending attrition war that's going to bleed them dry for the coming few decades>Latin America<We will dominate this region for the foreseeable future as our media and cultural influence is so strong that Latinos will vote for the most insane right wing retards like Milei >Everyone else<Too unimportant to matter and only trading with China/Russia for economic benefits which will cease to exist once we finish off those last two countriesSocialism lost. BRICs lost. America won. Cry about it.
>>2103324You should say Zigger, it's what all the rest of your cybermilitias are saying.
Anyways, if you guys have any balls, CUCKATO should deploy troops into Ukraine now. Send in a US army brigade to the front lines. See how well it does. Pussies.
<There needs to be a ban on any academic papers that interpret Russia's resilient GDP as a sign that sanctions don't work. Russia's resilience is a symptom of Western indecision on sanctions. If the West had gotten its act together, Russia would be imploding right now…https://x.com/robin_j_brooks/status/1874145734314054041Pahahahaha
Am I late or did everyone already see this?
>>2103378To help correct that, use ppp, adjust for gini, or even exclude the financial sector.
>>2103324All it would take to collapse the "mighty US" into rubble, would be for Brics/globalist south to stop buying US bonds, or trading in dollars, can't have that tho, cause other than Russia, they're a bunch of two-faced cowards.
>>2103379While it is true there are problems, nothing is predetermined. But 2025 will be a trying year.
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/108940/ ,
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/108918/ ,
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/108876/ >>2103382This is from an online test on this site
https://international-autism score-test.com/en/test/IQ_by_country
Not a good representation of reality, plus Ukrainians just got to work raising Ukrainian autism score s.
Russia had an average autism score of 96 in 2019, so this looks fake in any case.
>>2103424Western "leftists" are the scum of the earth. Not only they fail to understand, let alone oppose, or pose any threat to their imperialist governments, they actively promote their atlanticist/shitlib propaganda, they're beyond useless, that's why even right wing movements like MAGA end up being more beneficial. Russia not only banned far-right (the "real" one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_Against_Illegal_Immigration ) parties, but actively fought racism, only to get equated to ukraine/azov as nazis by leftist media.
>>2103433It really is hilarious how the raison detre of fascists seems to be to serve American interests, and nothing else. Russia would have been happy to employ fascists, but without error, any and all Russian fascists sided with Ukraine and USA
And cryptofascists still staying in Russia, while nominally being on Russian side, are still crying over Prigozhin's failed coup, and gets hard whenever Ukraine fights back. Whenever Russia wins, they downplay victories, and if they can't, they become depressed and try to end their lives
>>2103755The Soviets made it easy to visit recreational facilities etc via walking or public transportation, at least in cities and towns.
For activities not well covered by public transportation people’s needs would have been met by rental cars.
So again it is a nonsensical comparison because the Soviet Union’s economy was not based on meeting the needs of individualist consumers.
>>2103761I shouldn’t even bother replying to “paralyzed front” nonsense. All Western analysis is that Russia is pursuing an attrition strategy and that land seizure is done with that goal in mind.
There are no deep surprise attacks with modern aerial surveillance systems. Big arrows aren’t happening until the Ukrainian army starts to collapse. If the Nazis had modern surveillance the Red Army breakthroughs of 1944 would have all failed.
>>2103779The Soviet economy was growing, all the way to the very end, and had an average per capita GDP about half that of US levels.
Moreover, the Soviets only spent around 10-15% of GDP on their military, roughly in line with American levels.
>>2103642They'll go for Kharkiv next. War isn't over until there's full capitulation.
The Russian strategic objective is mass murder / dismemberment of Ukrainian fighting-age men.
Watch Zelenskyy's approval rating, and the number of coups in the Ukrainian government to see real progress.
>>2103845I know I'm getting kind of repetitive on here but Samir Amin has the most interesting take I have ever seen on the USSR, he argues that the Soviet mode of production persisted for many years after the collapse
Also I agree that the USSR could have been fixed but that would have required the people who overturned it to have already been purged
>>2103850I am a 6'3" 24 year old manchild with hair that fully covers my medium sized bubbly ass and goes almost up to the tip of my dick. I have raped men with more testosterone than you. I am sorry that evil queers took over your favorite website "Four Channel", but it's not my problem.
If this is what NATO hybrid war looks like in practice in 2025 there way be hope for the world after all.
>>2103858rope
>>2103860nafo is a transhumanist alliance just like neomarxist commie retards fucking imbecile lmao
>>2103785If a few guys took control and manage to destroy the ussrI am sorry to tell you but it was apparently a very shitty system
>>2103845So why did it miserably failed? I mean, the US economy is theoretically still growing but more and more are struggling…
>>2103252Who's going to pay for that, lmao? Belarus is actually in the green, they can afford houses, Soviet agrarian sector was bankrupt due to getting sabotaged repeatedly and having it's wealth wasted on stupid projects
For example, there was a well-researched issue of dissolving "moto-transport stations", which were in charge of providing tractors to MULTIPLE farms, if those were small, or servicing one big farm, being a separate company. They were tasked specifically with maintaining tractors, buying the proper quantity of them, etc etc. Khruschev's reforms saw those MTS being disbanded, and collective farms were forced TO BUY all that property they were using UNDER LEASE before. Not only that implied that small farms would be fucking devastated, there was also the issue of having to staff collective farms with required personnel, they had to stock up on industrial goods each, duplicating demand for tractors and such but not improving agrarian output in the slightest
Like, it made certain sense for bigger farms - just merge MTS and kolkhoz and have a unity of command! But, again, kolkhozes had to BUY OUT MTS from the state. And this merger was forced through AFTER FAILED VIRGIN LANDS CAMPAIGN, which saw Soviets DURING STALIN TIMES issuing bonds for the development of agrarian sector, but with campaign failing, USSR HAS DEFAULTED ON SUCH BONDS AND DIDN'T PAY IT'S PEOPLE BACK. There was also Khruschev's denomination of ruble
Woah, Khruschev has led a really good economic policy! :^) It resulted in Novocherkassk, by the way, where people were demanding to turn Khruschev into meat buns
But with Khruschev gone, farms didn't restore their profitabliity. Instead came the statistics plague of reaching planned metrics of inputs and outputs, mechanization, and so on and so forth, but WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL to achieve those metrics. Except for higher workloads, obviously. For example, collective farms were forced to BUY MORE TRACTORS TO INCREASE MECHANIZATION RATE, which resulted in FURTHER BANKRUPTION of the agrarian sector, as farms just let those new machines rot away peacefully without seeing any use, as Soviet agriculture was already super-mechanized at the time. They just didn't need MORE tractors, but were forced to buy them - and who was PAYING for that, what do you think? Did money grow on trees, or were Soviet peasants consuming less so that they could pay for unneeded industrial goods?
>>2103523So, Zelensky never did a real interview, maybe over internet at best, and they've added AI lipsink to some other Zelensky footage to make it seem like it was a real interview
WHY. what's the fucking point, clown doesn't have anything better to do than to give interviews anyway
>>2104080And once again central planning proves to be an inefficient, idiotic and wasteful way to run an economy. >The emphasis on growth rates was one way of avoiding the question of what the growth rates were measuring. Much of Soviet output related very poorly to use. Inputs often were combined to create outputs worth less than the inputs. It is not genuine industrialization to construct capacity embodying production functions that produce outputs worth less than the inputs.
>The Soviet Union wasted its resources, because the success indicator for Soviet managers allowed them to be successful even though their output was poorly related to the needs of users. Soviet output basically satisfied no one but the statistician measuring it.
>The Soviet manager’s success indicator was a measure of gross output, such as weight, quantity, square feet, or surface area. Gross output indicators played havoc with assortments, sizes, quality, and so on. Nikita Khrushchev complained of chandeliers so heavy “that they pull the ceilings down on our heads” (qtd. in Roberts andLaFollette 1990, 8). A famous Soviet cartoon depicted the manager of a nail factory being given the Order of Lenin for exceeding his tonnage. Two giant cranes were pictured holding up one giant nail. >>2104093>Soviet bureaucracy was intentionally bankrupting the agrarian sector, therefore planning doesn't work!We see this happen every day in capitalist countries, and we see nothing being done about it either. It's not a socialist/planned economy problem
Also, we have the example of Stalin's collective farms, that outproduced any agrarian organization with a similar level of technology, despite the fact that Russian weather is fucking horrible, and by the rates of mechanization was second or third in the world
>>2104119cars are inherently low efficiency and increasing the amount of lanes is a bandaid. all that does is encourage development along the length of the highway which puts more cars on the road as the new developments along the highway are populated by people who need their needs met by infrastructure that does not get built inside their new developments.
soviet urban design was about as good as it gets. go drive around in houston if you disagree
>>2104123>>2104119Soviet rural folks were using tractors and motorcycles, lmao. You need to add to Soviet car statistics all the rural vehicles that could be used for transportation. They also used trucks to travel in truck's trunk, like they do in poor countries today
It really was not as dire situation as "economists" (really propagandists) like to present
>>2104144funny how he useses woke in the original positive meaning
Hes not that deep into US stuff, boomer after all
>>2104131in theory it would be good for Russia because those are the viable factions in Europe that question the Ukraine project and the liberal-atlanticist obsession with confronting and defeating Russia.
Aside from Fico and maybe that Wagenekt or whatever party in Germany, the left either supports liberal imperialism or are too marginal to be viable, so if your first priority is Russia there's not much to support in Europe other than the Right opposition.
on top of that it seems like Dugler buys into the culture war on the side of "traditional values".
>>2104119>But ussr still shat the bed on the topic.You are just a straight up moron. The USSR was never as wealthy per capita as the British let alone Americans so comparison on individual consumption, ignoring the differences in urban planning, is nonsensical.
If we get to fully automated luxury communism before destroying ourselves than the need for cars outside public transport can be met through loaning publicly owned cars as needed.
>>2103909Nobody said this except Amerimutts from ptg on /pol/, trying to self insert and a desperate sense of patriotism
"See? We are the good guys!"
>>2100374Russia is capitalist, not fascist
It will sooner turn into a monarchy than a fascist state
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