Just taking a poll of the users here. There always seems to be contradictory feedback on whether the mods are too strict, too lenient, or too inconsistent. So I'd like to make an unofficial poll to judge the userbase's opinions on the issue - and yes, VPNs are banned.
survey link:
https://strawpoll.com/NMnQNpDBBg6Poll closes on 2024-01-19.
ORDINANCES:
1. H*z is banned. Any mention of, depiction of, video, audio, or image (including memes) of, or related to, the individual known as Adam Tahir (more commonly known as Haz Al-Din), including associated projects such as the media collective "Infrared", or the US-based "American Communist Party" founded in 2024, etc. are BANNED.
2. No non O.C. Wojaks, Pepes, or Groypers. Any Wojaks, pepes, groypers, etc. which are not /leftypol/ original content are considered spam.
3. The Wojakifcation/wojak script is banned. This is a bit of javascript, commonly used on bunkerchan, which takes a post one is replying to and posts a greentext version of it in a pre-made wojak template, which is used as a reaction image.
4. 'Real Proletarian' rhetoric which implies a large percentage of wage workers are not proletarians is banned - per modocracy vote passed on 2024-12-25
5. For original posts outside of /siberia/, "coomer bait" images which are sexual, sexualizing, or appeal to the prurient interest in any way are BANNED and will be spoilered or removed. - per modocracy vote passed on 2025-01-02
6. Evading original post word minimum outside /siberia/ is BANNED. - per modocracy vote passed on 2025-01-02
7. Incel posts are banned site wide (i.e. incel talking points and making 9999 threads complaining about women, saying all women are bourgeoise/sluts/etc.) - per modocracy vote passed on 2025-01-02
8. "Feral" furry porn (i.e. drawn or cartoon pornography depicting a character that is a four-legged animal, or to a significant degree non-anthropomorphic) is BANNED, and will be spoilered or removed at the moderator's discretion - per modocracy vote passed on 2025-01-11
9. Climate change denial, especially to the extent of excessive doomerism and BP shill tier takes, is banned - per modocracy vote passed on 2025-01-11
>>2104004one weed blunt and they all GONE
THEY DEAD
ALL THE LIBERAL TURN INTO RASTA CLASS WARRIOR
My primary complaint is that incel shit is not deleted and removed heavily enough. Misogynists, incels, queerphobes, are all liberal and they spread their liberal poison here.
"Why are women/gays/black people like this?" type shit can't be tolerated.
Delete these internet addicted illiterate suburbanite shut in reactionary liberal drivel on sight.
>>2103967Nobody posts this. If anything there's too much anti-queer shit disguised with Marxist rhetoric.
>>2104048Fidel Castro said:
>We would never come to believe that a homosexual could embody the conditions and requirements of conduct that would enable us to consider him a true revolutionaryand
>A deviation of that nature clashes with the concept we have of what a militant Communist should be >>2104059Uhmm guys, is antisemitism actually based???
>What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.Only a fucking retarded reactionary would weaponize socialist heroes to justify their backwards views.
>>2104094No shit dumbass.
>>2104092See above, using Fidel Castro as a cover for homophobia. Other instances are the reactionary anti-proletariat repression of anti-imperialist countries such as Russia towards queer people. Just because the CIA weaponizes queer people doesn't mean that state sanctioned queer lynching squads are somehow something to support.
>>2104084>if you're against liberal ideology being pushed here then you should go to liberal central: reddit. Amazing argument fucktard. If you want liberalism on this board go to /pol/ or reddit, we don't need that retarded shit here.
>>2104084i think a lot of posters make unfounded assumptions and talk past eachother so im gonna double up
that poster is right about misogynists, incels, queerphobes, and you should be gulag for homophobia
but also that poster should be gulag for liberalism because they think marxism is anti-queer and dismiss it as rhetoric
the real big problem is that no one knows what the fuck they are talking about so you have anti-idpol being culture war chauvinists and idpol being socdem radlibs and both are wrong. idpol libs cant make a proper materialist argument to defend their correct positions and chauvinists appeal to nature and essentialism couldnt into a dialectic to save their life
this can only be fixed by moderation of both which is not possible if they dont have a correct understanding of marxism themselves
>>2104098>i think a lot of posters make unfounded assumptions and talk past eachother so im gonna double up>but also that poster should be gulag for liberalism because they think marxism is anti-queer and dismiss it as rhetoricHeh, a bit ironic. For one, I would argue exactly the opposite. Marxism BTFOs the ridiculousness of homophobia and transphobia, through a variety of ways.
>this can only be fixed by moderation of both which is not possible if they dont have a correct understanding of marxism themselvesI won't comment on the second claim, but on the first claim, yes. We need more heavy moderation of retarded incels/misogynists/etc who are the ones mostly responsible here for spreading liberal ideology. Even socdem libs here don't spread liberal ideas regarding these topics because there's not much to say, queer people are oppressed and that's it. I'd rather have them be in silence about the topic then have people quoting Fidel Castro to justify their obsession on hating gay people (which is psychopathic, let's be real).
>>2104096>See aboveok but thats not "marxist rhetoric"
>>2104033>developing production is a prerequisite for social progressthis is marxist rhetoric
fidel was wrong but it makes sense that people in engaged in production just emerging from colonial agriculture would not see the breakup of traditional family units as a good thing. so we can say that this was a mistake while still holding critical support for cubas self determination and economic development free from imperialist intervention. we can also see how this independent development of productive forces in cuba have led to a stable social structure as technology reduces gender differences and direct physical labor that enables alternative lifestyles and family structure which have now been enshrined in law.
>>2104102Socialist rhetoric then, call it as you wish. I can name more. Retarded reactionary illiterate MLs (I am an ML BTW), saying that homosexuality needs to be banned, in their world building fantasy HOI4 "theory" because of production reasons. Let's not forget that epic blogpost by cockshott, where he laughably deduced by using pure reason that gay people are actually petit bourgeois or some shit because they can marry, not have children, and have two incomes. I can go on and on about the shit that's posted here. Another one points out (correctly, for the wrong reasons) how gays or trans people didn't exist until relatively recently, and how, by using the power of imaginary empirical research, it is more prevalent among the richer strata, therefore it is a "bourgeoise" "degeneracy". (A degeneration of Real Family Values, one has to assume, and we all know how communists love the traditional nuclear family lol, not to mention how the bastardized usage of "bourgeoise" coming from Marx into a sad moral condemnation).
>>2104106Not all in the world. The posters here who are obsessed with posting about how much they hate women or about how much they worship women (often both), or are ready to chime in to justify their hatred of queer people, or about how in true communism, once they are the great dictators, they will mandate GFs and "fix" queer people, etc, are all liberals.
If it were the other way around, if it were posters posting constantly about how we must fight for women, or must fight for gay marriage rights or whatever, or about how in true communism everyone will be forced to become queer, then you'd rightfully identify these people as liberals. Somehow being a sad sack of contrarian shit shields these liberals from any criticism. I realize we're on a *chan site, but that doesn't excuse these shit liberal takes being allowed to proliferate without any resistance.
Leftypol's raison d'être was once to fight idpol in all its forms, and identified idpol as a trojan horse filled with poison. Whether that has ever been successfully done is another topic, but what I'm stating here is part and course with the site's original spirit.
>>2104108>Not all in the world. The posters here who are obsessed with posting about how much they hate women or about how much they worship women (often both), or are ready to chime in to justify their hatred of queer people, or about how in true communism, once they are the great dictators, they will mandate GFs and "fix" queer people, etc, are all liberals. no they're not
> if it were posters posting constantly about how we must fight for women, or must fight for gay marriage rights or whatever, or about how in true communism everyone will be forced to become queer, then you'd rightfully identify these people as liberals.>or must fight for gay marriage rights or whateverwe already have these guys here
>or about how in true communism everyone will be forced to become queeri don't think many people would call this liberal
>Somehow being a sad sack of contrarian shit shields these liberals from any criticismthey get criticised literally all the time
>but that doesn't excuse these shit liberal takes being allowed to proliferate without any resistance. they get plenty of resistance.
>>2104101>ironicyeah im making the completely unfounded assumption that since you posted right after me that you are one of the people who think critical support for assad or putin is an endorsement of homophobia rather than independent development being the only way for russia and syria to stop scapegoating minorities for economic hardship imposed by imperialist meddling
>Marxism BTFOs the ridiculousness of homophobia and transphobia, through a variety of ways. i agree but just declaring it to be so doesn't count. if these people are really marxists you can walk them through it and if it doesn't work they will expose themselves in the process and should get the gulag
>Where do correct ideas come from? Do they drop from the skies? No. Are they innate in the mind? No. They come from social practice, and from it alone; they come from three kinds of social practice, the struggle for production, the class struggle and scientific experiment. It is man’s social being that determines his thinking. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-9/mswv9_01.htmi wonder how much of this bs originates with CPGB-ML. they are so good on imperialism and totally shit the bed on minority rights, then you have the KKE being absolute trash on both fronts and for some reason people here are drawn to them like flies
>>2104108>Let's not forget that epic blogpost by cockshottsee cockshott should be banned for his rejection of dialectics. his shitty justifications for his wrong opinions are a consequence of that
https://nicolasdvillarreal.substack.com/p/a-defense-of-cybernetic-planning
>Socialist rhetoric then, call it as you wish.no i mean thats just like fidels opinion. socialist rhetoric is when you say means of production dialectics material conditions over and over so you sound cool. all that other stuff tho yeah nuke the cesspool that is siberia from orbit
in other words the only way to fix this site if for mods is to piss off everyone except me by becoming pro landback blm lgbt campists, which is of course the only correct position for a marxist to hold
>>2104114What's the issue with banning them then? Why should we tolerate misogyny, queerphobia, etc?
>no they're notYou're saying, with conviction in your heart, that defending and espousing misogyny and queerphobia via "socialist analysis", in the year of our lord 2025, is not borne from liberalism?
>>2104115Agree with all your post, however, the incels are relentless. Remember the first incel containment thread. Multiple people in different time zones for months arguing with two incels which led nowhere except burnout of the non-incels. Further, if you read the posts by the people in the new incel's refuge, the so called " sex and relationship " thread, you can tell these people are not even interested in Marxism or any socialist theory for that matter. They're here because they found a small community of internet addicted channers like them who aren't insane like the Nazis on other chans.
Might I also remind the older members of the first idpol containment thread which was also a disaster. These measures have historically only led to festering. In theory, I agree with what your Mao quote. But in practice this simply isn't feasible. Perhaps it makes sense in a communist organization where members are expected to have already undergone basic formation, and are committed revolutionaries. Here though? Hardly the case, as I mentioned, some clearly don't even care about socialism or leftism.
My proposition is simple, ban incel shit more frequently.
>>2104120I'm generalizing, sorry for not proofreading.
Some people in the sex and relationship general. I don't even think it's a majority, it's just very online people that easily dominate the thread and frequently escape containment and post god awful threads on Siberia and sometimes even on leftypol.
>>2104120>You're saying, with conviction in your heart, that defending and espousing misogyny and queerphobia via "socialist analysis", in the year of our lord 2025, is not borne from liberalism? yes? an incel that wants to forcibly redistribute the distribution of access to women has nothing whatsoever in common with a liberal or liberalism, and misogyny and queerphobia in 2025 aren't borne of liberalism.
>What's the issue with banning them then? Why should we tolerate misogyny, queerphobia, etc?uhhh because upwards of 90% to 99% of the working class is queerphobic depending on the continent, to not tolerate these eccentricitys is to oppress our valued BIPOC population on leftypol
ok the serious answer, because these claims of queerphobia are usually just used as a shield to ban some leftypol user that pointed out some contradiction in gender ideology that some sympathiser to it was incapable of refuting, so they run off to the mods demanding bans, They claim everything is queerphobic/misogynistic/pro-incel, in the hopes that every argument they can't win ends in the offender getting banned.
It's nonsense, your post is nonsense, your demands are nonsense, your claims that incels aren't criticised are nonsense, people never shut up about them, your claims incels are liberals are nonsense
>nuh-uh! The post.
>>2104143> an incel that wants to forcibly redistribute the distribution of access to women has nothing whatsoever in common with a liberal or liberalism>just because it's psychopathic social democracy, doesn't mean it isn't fundamentally liberal. >misogyny and queerphobia in 2025 aren't borne of liberalism.Eager to hear your theory.
>[we shouldn't ban antisocial retards because] uhhh because upwards of 90% to 99% of the working class is queerphobicWhat a fucking retarded come back. See how incels are not even concerned with theory? They just learn theory enough to defend their shitpit. 99% of the western population is on the spectrum of fascism. We should just make this site a pro-fascist site. What a fucking moron.
>your claims incels are liberals are nonsenseClearly not.
>>2104201>psychopathic social democracyYour just trying to attach as many bad words as you can to the incels, no matter how nonsensical it is
>ban the incels they're socdem, idpol, liberals!!!surprised you aren't accusing them of being Trotskyists too
All these phobias you've rambled on about….. maybe its your own internalised incelphobia you should be concerned about.
<incel dictator forcibly seizing then redistributing the means of reproduction to the incel masses<social democracy >>2103934Are you fuckinh simple?
We basically have no moderation currently.
Start doing your job first THEN we can talk about how you're doing it…..
It's hardly fucking strict you see people promote pure white supremacy here and not get a ban, and I don't mean "white supremacy" like in the maoist (liberal) sense. The best thing they did recently was delete that h1b thread. The h1b thing spread over here and you had two camps either saying all "foreigners" are reactionary agents instead of just proletarian and then the other half was like OMG I LOVE CURRY BASED HINDUS BAAAAAAASED HINDUS. None of this had anything to do with socialism it was all hitler shit.
The only problem I see is mods will suddenly wake up and ban random shit for the loosest rules like "sectarianism" when you are trying to argue a position rooted in theory while some bot spamming hazbin hotel is left up as "board culture" or whatever.
>>2104048>liberals>anti-lgbtYou're literally arguing vague, intersectional thing that has nothing to do with socialism. I don't think you know what the words you're using mean. Like, how delusional do you have to be to think liberals hate lgbt rights? Ideology brain shit.
>>2104302>You're literally arguing vague, intersectional thing that has nothing to do with socialismImagined schizo delusions. Make a structured argument showing how I'm "arguing intersectional thing". You can't just use words like spells lol.
>Like, how delusional do you have to be to think liberals hate lgbt rights?Big boy using words he doesn't understand.
>Ideology brain shit.Now you've done it hahahaha stop using words you don't understand. You make yourself look foolish.
Triggering incels and they fight back with nonsensical Markov chain socialist sounding responses.
>>2104321Oh look a liberal calling me a schizo for accurately pointing out they're just talking about intersectionality rather than Marxism. Liberals brought LGBT rights because liberalism is progressive to what came before it. It's historical materialism 101 you'd know this if you ever read Marx, which you didn't. I'm not arguing LGBT rights aren't valid or whatever brainrot you imagine because we care about class, and working for a wage doesn't care about ethnicity or sexual orientation. Revisionists like Castro are irrelevant to the discussion. I don't care about those succdems.
>reactionaryYou don't know what that word means just like when people here abuse liberal to mean anyone they don't like.
>throw homophobes in the gulagOh boy we're surrounded by ML pipeline noobs who just care about aesthetics and great men.
>>2104406further
cyclical contamination thread for ML (all post 1936 USSR discussion goes here)
cyclical contamination thread for MLMZT (all PRC before kaifeng go here)
cyclical for organizing discussion
cyclical for reading
>>2104152>with zero material analysisThis is a problem with all the boards apart from /leftypol/ (most of the time) and /edu/.
The attitude in the hobby boards is about turning your brain off and just consooming bruh. /latam/ is full to the brim with latino lolberts, Siberia.
Honestly I don't even know what's the point of the alt boards other than to give vols more work for zero gain.
>>2103934My biggest problem with the site is that rule 11 is pretty much completely unenforced. As a result posts like
>>2104225 and especially
>>2104247 that contribute no meaningful discussion end up cropping up everywhere, because slinging insults and arguing about arguing is much easier than actually making a substantive point.
>>2104059Fidel Castro changed his mind later though, pretty famously so. Cuba's now among the most accepting places of homosexual relationships in the entire world, both in terms of law and public opinion and had been moving in that direction since the late Cold War, long before the West decided to slap pride flags on everything.
I absolutely loathe how people on this site treat socialism the same way /pol/ treats fascism; like it's this old-school historical thing from the 20th century that we must RETVRN to, and that being a fascist/communist means emulating the aesthetics and social values of Nazi Germany/The Soviet Union. But socialism is alive and well in places like Cuba, China, Vietnam, and Korea, and in those places has long-since surpassed the Soviet Union.
How many people here have read books written by socialists living in socialist countries within the past ten years? I'm willing to bet money that the number is >1%.
>>2104696whos winning
why so many option
>>2104724are you
really trying to gatekeep this cesspool?
>>2105158Some of the mods keep the more well behaved /pol/tards around in hopes to convert them, which is why they don't ban them
Ironically if a mod got a hint that you're a regular thats, say, become anti immigrant(or some other positions certain mods don't like) it would result in a month long instaban, usually for "pol"
It used to be part of the board meta during the more strict moderation periods to deliberately pretend to be the former in order to get away with posting a spicy view you knew a certain few mods would not like in order to a avoid their ban hammer.
>>2105957Cuba never stopped being capitalist, they never had a remotely communist program nor a DotP.
>promoting lgbt is just a part of thatIf they still sent queers to jail it would be just as capitalist - all bourgeois state policy is, evidently, bourgeois.
>>2105957It's been
>promoting lgbt(you say it as if it was a physical substance)
since before the Cold War ended, and really starting pushing for it hard right after the Cold War ended decades before the United States did. And if you want to take the populist angle, there's widespread popular support for LGBT-friendly policies among the Cuban People, so the argument that it's bourgeoisie doesn't make any sense unless you're an idealist intellectual-masturbator.
>>2105999Also, while it's probably the foremost openly pro-LGBT communist nation, not like Cuba's the only LGBT-friendly communist nation period. Vietnam and Laos hold about the same position on the issue the United States did in the 90s and 2000s, where the LGBT community isn't endorsed by fiet, but is generally allowed to do its thing without being punished for it, to the backdrop of a public that's generally ambivalent to it. This makes up three out of the five currently existing communist nations!
That's not to say that communist nations
should be pro-LGBT, more that there's nothing un-communist about LGBT nations. Communism/socialism is about economics and politics first and foremost. Specific social values are beyond communism's proper scope, and should be decided based on a specific people's wants and needs.
>>2106001I'm saying this mostly for the benefit of the board at large. I'm probably not going to convince him of anything, but I can definitely show the crowd that he's retarded and that they shouldn't listen to him.
>>2106023>That's not to say that communist nations should be pro-LGBT,Communist nations should be pro-LGBT.
Overcoming oppressive gender roles includes liberation from heteronormativity, monogamy, and the family. The more the workers are able to structure their social relations as they choose (most would still be monogamous and hetero), the more empowered they are and the harder it is for reactionary forces to take hold. The same goes with any "progressive" social policy that erodes these sorts of biases and fetters.
>>2106625>>2106023>Communist nationsI'm losing my fucking mind.
>Overcoming oppressive gender roles includes liberation from heteronormativity, monogamy, and the family. None of this shit has remotely anything to do with communism. And before you call me reactionary, neither does the opposite stance.
>"progressive" social policyAny state policy is by definition reactionary. What the fuck is communist about granting rights, by itself a bourgeois invention meant for proper citizens of capitalism?
>>2104048You should ban sincerely resentful posters who are just expressing their hatred for groups but questions akin to 'why do refugees rape more' or 'why do black americans engage in criminality more often' should be asked and seriously examined. First it needs to be shown that they're actually TRUE though, there's no useful discussion to be had about blatant lies. But once such a statistic is established as fact, it actually does need to be understood and confronted, not dismissed as an uncomfortable truth. The question should also be oriented in all ways. Not just 'why is minority x like this' but also 'why are men like this'.
This board is called LEFTIST POLITICALLY INCORRECT. Communists should shamelessly pursue awareness of the real conditions (genetic, epigenetic and purely environmental) that lead to destructive behaviour, without ANY regard for what moralistic shitlibs think of it. This can easily be done without ever resorting to petty resentments, like misogyny, racism and anti-homosexuality, Most important is that it is GENUINELY EXPLORATORY. Communists are above most people in that they recognize the very fact that people really are subjected to themselves and their environments. Recognition of this is a necessary precondition to even being capable of figuring things out. Kindness and understanding for all, including the lowest, vilest, sickest (because all destructivity is not more than sickness) of the world. The denial of this principle makes it impossible to understand what the fuck is going on in this Goddamned sewer of a society. Read Nietzsche alongside all the communism.
>>2104288>Its a ungrateful job. When moderation works nobody pays attention but when its lacking everyone is chimping out.Not sure why you think you need to be pat on the back when it works… Actually moderate and we will stop chimping out at you.
It's pretty fucking simple, anon.
>>2109291Not in the slightest
Do better
>>2108018>1. Ban newgene and delete all of his posts.This!
That uygha is a drag on every thread he spawns in. I don't use siberia no more so as far as I am concerned you can have him run rampant there but don't let him into leftypol at least.
Most of the mods are probably only dimly aware of him.
>>2110172IT IS BACK
MODS = GODS
>>2110453I'm genuinely fucking amazed people think there's
too much moderation. /leftypol/ is pretty much indistinguishable from /siberia/ at this point. You have threads of people going back and forth going
>you're a retarded leftoid zigger<seethe westoid transhumanistAd-nauseum to the tune of 400+ posts.
>>2110484i dont see this happening probably cuz i dont check generals, theyre all terrible
>I'm genuinely fucking amazed people think there's too much moderationlol mods have stopped treating leftypol like a childcare only this last week
>>2110484>I'm genuinely fucking amazed people think there's too much moderation.it's a dozen people anon
so probably half a dozen and a samefag, calm down.
>>2110180reminder that this is what jannies are doing instead of going through reports and removing spam, /isg/shit and assorted trash.
>>2110577>explainNo. Stop looking for validation and clean the site up.
There are many reports pending, i am certain.
>>2110484i think there has been too much moderation for the last year or so
>>2110504>lol mods have stopped treating leftypol like a childcare only this last weekfrom my perspective they basically abandoned the site after the crash, so very recently there hasn't been enough moderation
or rather they had been moderating opinions i like and agree with too much and opinions i dont like and disagree with not enough, letting socdems and groypers post freely and banning communist tendencies that differ from their personal opinion, resulting in a radlib hugbox with occasional nazis
>>2110689A slower but healthier site will grow healthier, and may become faster over time. We could overcome the current plateau if it was easier to reccomend the site to people that don't already know the haz situation and know those users don't represent the general userbase.
The site would probably be pretty fast as a /pol/ or sharty clone, but that's not a desirable outcome.
>>2110598I'm thankful you share my opinions so yes go ahead and ban me please
When will you guys learn?
>>2108018You called?
Yea I'm that annoying bug.
>>2110733You're commiting a tingnoter by treating the userbase as one person.
>Imageboards are not known for sincere civil discussions.I've seen plenty of proper dialouges on here, but people here do have a debate addiction problem so it's hard to steer people toward the healthier cooperative communication. Not impossible, just takes effort.
>>2110824
The long-time persecutors of your desperate pleas for the truth are now acknowledging your ancient wisdom, o' anon, you delved into the divine soul, in front of you saw a 2000+ year old commie gnome who had seen everything, whose goal was to contact you, he told you that abrahamic religions made people forget the real gods, the gods of Helleno-Marxian pantheon. You were awestruck, and you, your gentle soul, it warmly shined with the truth. Aware of that, there soon arrived the orators who tried to banish your poor soul in the prisons of torment…
Thank you and please close your eyes and take a good night's sleep, comrade, for you gave all you had, what was left from your strength and will, for your flesh and heroic soul should be very tired of struggling for so long…
>>2110943You're welcome to fucking quit.
If you refuse to moderate, why are you here?
>>2103934is it possible for the meme responses to be removed? i didnt know that "other" would add my writings as a whole new voting part and now ive accidentally made the single largest text for a vote option.
idk if its cheating to directly tell you what i voted/made but fuck it, mods can just remove it if they care
>i joined around middle of '24. i may not have enough expiernce with this site but they have been adequate and i like you for the most part, infinetly better than 4chan (not much of a challenge tho). go with the plan (this is first im hearing about it tho) just be a 5% more strict with the new users and try advertising on different sites too, try youtube adds. >>2111157What do you get when accounting for the 500 additional options that basically say the exact same thing as each-other?
Real talk, I can't imagine what a version of this site with less moderation would even look like, short of people starting outright porn threads on /leftypol/. We're at the point where 90% of posts are more or less
>Kill yourself 🥱If things keep going the way they are, I can't see myself staying here much longer, and I doubt I'm the only one.
>>2111169>a choice made primarily by the petit bourgeoisie.The first order (of business) is to start banning people for calling everything they personally dislike bourgeoisie.
>>2111639It seems as retarded as ever to me, but at least my posts calling out idiots don't get deleted these days.
>>2111708It's a doggy dog world.
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