No.213976[Last 50 Posts]
Welp edition
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>>740750
>"death with corona" and "death within a month of a positive corona test" are counted as "corona deaths"
rightard cope
No.740768
>>740763
>when do you think restrictions should be lifted?
when the pandemic is actually over
are you a bougie this desperate to fly to other countries
>when should corona passports, vaccine and mask mandates stop?
actually i dont like these because theyre never done in a transparent way and its a violation of privacy
i still think you guys are fucking retarded for shitting on masks and vaccines lmfao
No.740770
>>740763
as long as the pandemic continues you fucking retard, which it will as long as pieces of shit like you keep getting your way
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>>740750
>A newspaper editor wrote an article recently apologising for his newspaper not pushing more against the government narrative and interpretation of numbers.
The "newspaper" is a conservative tabloid Ekstra Bladet
No.740783
>>740562Hallo aus Deutschland! Really I've been thinking about migrating to your country because I live in Germany, which is firmly under the control of American medico-fascists and enforces now booster mandates ("2g+ Regel") with the most cruel, fascistic measures imaginable (depriving people of unemployment benefits, etc.). Our health minister, a mentally ill medico-fascist concentration camp doctor, Karl Lauterbach, continues to spread dangerous misinformation that omicron is actually "more deadly" than the wild Wuhan strain without any evidence.
No.740787
>>740783>le wuhan fluyou faggots are so transparent
No.740789
>>740787From what I was I've read, the virus was first discovered in Wuhan, where it was quickly contained by the Chinese government that saved thousands of lives. Come again?
No.740793
>>740783Anzeige ist raus.
No.740794
>>740793Aber erst am Montag, oder?
No.740795
>>740780
>someone help I can't stop coooooooooooopinggggggg
No.740799
>>740794I am really not someone that is easily offended but if you are german you should know not to make nazi comparisons in this way. Or maybe it's Kabarett.
No.740819
>>740780
>who decides when it's over?
A good rule of thumb to know if this virus is still dangerous is to look how actual socialist countries like Cuba or DPRK react to it
No.740821
>>740799I am serious now - at what point are you allowed to make Nazi comparisons? Sure, sure, they are not exterminating peoples or wage war on the entire world, but neither did the Nazis before 1939, right? Does anything the Nazis did between 1933 and 1939 not count as Nazi methods? We are dealing with serious, never-ending, increasingly unscientific controls in terms of bodily autonomy, the biopolitics Foucault was talking about are not in his abstract conception anymore, they are forced upon us directly, out in the open. This is nothing but an assault on the global working class.
Oh, so you are worried about people dying from a virus? Well, where fucking where you when the influenza killed thousands in 2018!
If you are not completely brainwashed and speak German, I recommend you this article:
https://netzwerk-linker-widerstand.ru/magma/2022/02/biopolitische-machtergreifung/ No.740825
>>740821Nah, I'm good. I already have a religion.
No.740826
>>740821>getting asked to wear a mask is…. LE FASCISTholy libshit
No.740828
>>740826I am for mask mandates, especially in retirement homes and the such, where people have a very high risk of dying from the flu.
No.740833
>>740825Your religion is worshipping anti-science bullshit put out by Bayer AG (ex-IG Farben, profiteers of industrial extermination) and Biontech.
No.740835
>>740833We don't talk to Nazis, we shoot them.
No.740839
>>740831>most predictions that poststructuralist thinkers made in the abstract become real>noooo don't misinterpret the actual thoughts of my favorite pedophile Frenchman!hang yourself
No.740844
>>740835>we>me and my liberal friendsThe "nazis" (imagined nazis: 25 million unvaccinated in Germany, all nazis, especially the children; actual nazis: about 5k at best, observed by the Verfassungsschutz) must be so triggered
No.740845
>>740839>pedophile Frenchmant. Fox News consumer
No.740848
>>740844you dont even see the irony and hypocrisy in posting this after all your unhinged posts
No.740850
>>740819>DPRK react to itthe DPRK rejected millions of vaccines in the COVAX program and told them to send the vaccines somewhere else.
No.740852
>>740844You sound a bit triggerd
No.740854
>>740845Foucault was an actual pedophile who preyed on colonized people. Are you gonna die on that hill or will you admit you lost this exchange?
No.740856
>>740852Yes I am fucking triggered because this vaccine mandate actually ruins my life. You know, some people despite posting on here have lives.
No.740861
>>740854NTA but ad hominem is not an argument. If anything, you lost.
No.740864
>>740856How does the vaccine mandate ruin your life?
No.740869
>>740854>Foucault was an actual pedophile who preyed on colonized people. LMFAO
The only "source" for this was some random conservative right-winger who constantly whines about le woke ideology. In over 50 years absolutely nobody else said anything about it at all until this person. He's also a collaborator with Jean Chirac y Alain Juppe, curiously accused of embezzlement. I think this helps understand his statements.
No.740875
>>740861I can still critique his work and then use ad hominem especially after that retarded post by that other anon that he "read Foucault's work" (he didn't) and pointed out "well, biopolitics as a category by Foucault doesn't literally mean the state controlling your body" - I mean, yes and no. There are layers to that. Foucault's talk about hospitals and prisons certainly is, in the end, controlling your body directly. Most of capitalism is controlling your body indirectly.
But to be offended that people use the term "biopolitics" to talk about regulary vaccine mandates that are tracked via digital apps on your phone is super retarded, Foucault probably rolls in his grave.
If anything, it shows that the age of postmodern abstractions is over.
No.740881
>>740854>>740875foucault wasnt even living in tunisia during 1969, youre retarded and easily believe anything you read on the internet (but this is obvious, youre an antivaxxer)
No.740885
>>740856>this vaccine mandate actually ruins my lifewut
I mean, if it's a social thing you can always take the jab and lie about it…
How hard is to take an injection that is objectively for your benefit? Like what, you worry the vaccine is going to bar your soul from salvation or something? Because if we are staying within reality, the vaccine is the superior alternative to the risk of unvaxxed covid.
Or maybe you lead such a privileged life where you don't expect to get it and you can afford the monoclonal antibodies treatment and such on a whim and taking the shot is a status thing. You know, the servants have to wear masks so you don't need to kind of thing.
No.740891
>>740864Lost my job over it.
>>740869Ah yes, the French understanding that you were not pedophilic when you are seduced by young ephebes, totally not children. What's worse, he did it in a country France colonized and talked to teenage boys to come with him in exchange for money - and this is confirmed, you don't need to consult Guy Sorman for that.
No.740895
>>740891>this is confirmedCan you post these confirmations?
No.740896
>>740869>curiously accused of embezzlement. Embezzlement in what context. There's nothing wrong with embezzlement usually.
No.740897
>>740885>How hard is to take an injection that is objectively for your benefit?What the fuck is this retardation. Yes, I can also inject myself with fucking fuel overnight, after all, the procedure would be the least of my worries…
>>740888Foucault was also one of the co-signers of French philosophers to lower the age of consent. This is all out in the open and not "Alex Jones-tier crap".
No.740898
>>740891>Lost my job over it.You mean you decided to leave your job to avoid vaccination.
Why is avoiding the covid vaccines so important to you, that you'd prefer the consequences that "ruin your life"?
No.740899
>>740897>Foucault was also one of the co-signers of French philosophers to lower the age of consent.That was part of a protest because French authorities thought that kids should go to jail.
No.740904
>>740895This is from Tunesian journalists trying to DEFEND Foucault:
>OUCAULT WAS NOT A PEDOPHILE BUT WAS SEDUCED BY YOUNG CHILDREN. GUYS OF 17 OR 18 WHOM HE MET BRIEFLY IN THE THICKETS UNDER THE LIGHTHOUSE NEXT TO THE CEMETERY.What the fuck? Source:
https://www.jeuneafrique.com/1147268/politique/tunisie-michel-foucault-netait-pas-pedophile-mais-il-etait-seduit-par-les-jeunes-ephebes/When you read the article, you find that Moncef Ben Abbes, a guy in the village at that time, confims this. The problem was that Guy Sorman made outrageous rightoid claims that Foucault would force children to have sex with corpses at midnight. Obviously bullshit. Still, he was a pedo.
No.740905
>>740898>defending the capitalistIn any case:
>Why is avoiding the covid vaccines so important to you, that you'd prefer the consequences that "ruin your life"?I am worried about the side effects.
No.740907
>>740904>Foucault was a pedophile who raped kids<source?>here, it says Foucault wasn't a pedophile and didn't rape kidsUh. Okay.
No.740913
>>740909I don't read French, does the article state he had sex with these kids? If so, that's fucked, but it doesn't seem to be the case lol
No.740914
>>740910If your fucking alarm doesn't go off when someone says he was "seduced by young children" then I do not know what to tell you.
Again, this isn't even about Foucault's work.
No.740916
Out of all the things I can think about COVID 19 must be the most boring subject
No.740922
>>740905>I am worried about the side effects.But not about covid? Because that's the risk to balance here.
Also, did you take previous doses? Because the balance of minimizing risk was a lot heavier towards taking the vaccines in the first waves of covid. You had a lot higher chance of not getting proper treatment, being screwed by triage on crowded hospitals, or lacking the resources to get the treated or ventilated if by chance you got really sick.
And also there was , for the same reasons, a bigger social benefit to being vaccinated and minimizing your own impact on the healthcare systems(even if their unpreparedness and the virus spread can be blamed on capitalists).
So did you take the earlier covid shots?
No.740923
>>740914>seduced by young childrenmy alarm would go off if someone said he seduced young children., not the other way around, or that he accepted the seductions and fucked them or w/e
were talking about a poor colonized country, its not surprising some kids would try to sell their bodies for money, the issue is if he took advantage of this or not
if google translate can be trusted, it seems he did not do any of this
>At that time, the Minister of the Interior is none other than Béji Caid Essebsi (1926-2019), born in Sidi Bou Saïd. "He would have tolerated no scandal, but knew that the village self-regulated. Two perpetrators of pedophile acts were very quietly banished from the village, although son of notables "reports close to the former President of the Republic. No.740932
>>740922>But not about covid? Already had it. But I didn't had any symptoms. The German government just decided to lower the time where you count as "recovered" from 6 months to 3 months. Suddenly, from one day to another, by government decree, I found myself amongst the "schizos", "anti-vaxxers", "nazis", etc. because now I am barred from participating in social life. There are also conditions in my workplace, which I will not elobarate, that require me to take the vaxx or I am out.
>And also there was , for the same reasons, a bigger social benefit to being vaccinated and minimizing your own impact on the healthcare systemsIf that is true, if this Malthusian logic applies, I can also just kill myself because I have a condition that requires me to visit a hospital on a regular basis. Tell me, should rock climbers get treatment when they injure themselves? Should chain smokers do? After all, we can just let pregnant women deliver at home, because it's their choice they didn't get the pill, right?
You are regurgitating the exact same shit the neoliberal elites pushed for decades. It's all about "self-care", don't you ever rely on the healthcare system which has been starved for decades as well.
>So did you take the earlier covid shots?I didn't take a single shot because I already had it and natural immunity.
No.740934
>>740909>Muh legal age of consent says 17.9 years and younger is pedophilia and 18 is totally normal. Do people really think that desires and actions are determined by laws?
And are you seriously arguing people from the imperial core can't have sex with people from the imperialized countries? Nigha wtf.
No.740942
>>740934>Do people really think that desires and actions are determined by laws? Well this is the thin about laws, they need to have some standard to be enacted, there is also a legal driving age, a legal age to drink alcohol, and so on. Does that mean a 17 year old can be more mature than a 18 year old? Yeah, sure. But if you do not see the problem of a 40 year old man taking 17 year old kids to his hotel room in the global south (remember the cheque they got from Michel was probably more than what their father would earn an entire year) then I do not know what to tell you.
No.740947
>>740942>if you do not see the problem of a 40 year old man taking 17 year old kids to his hotel roomi guess you're just going to completely ignore
>>740923youre contradicting yourself with the very same article you posted as "proof"
go home my man
No.740949
>>740932>It's all about "self-care"Actually it's you who's all about "personal responsibility" and risk taking. A closer example would be:
<Should I be allowed to smoke my cancer sticks in public with the rest of the responsible addicts who take responsiblility for themselves?Which , no. I don't want your second hand smoke and I couldn't care less about your smoker's pride. You stink, you stain and you are pathological(an addict). But if you don't, smoke in private where others don't have to inhale the tar in your breath.
>I didn't take a single shot because I already had it and natural immunity.So really, there is no rationality behind it and it's just schizo antivaxx pride. Ok. No further questions.
No.740951
>>740949>So really, there is no rationality behind it and it's just schizo antivaxx prideThe rationality is… whatever. You are too far gone. Go look up how viruses work and we can talk again. Meanwhile, I think my doctor is better equipped to help me than you.
No.741012
>>740819If North Korean tv is anything to go by they're still taking covid deadly seriously
No.741015
>>740934Morally there is no difference with another few days, weeks, months. But legally it's better to have a hard baseline somewhere that no rich cunt with his fancy lawyer can wriggle out off.
No.741029
the same liberal ideology that has us putting primary blame on unvaxxed individuals for the disastrous state response to covid has us fretting over our carbon footprint, individual consumer choices as though the problem in both cases was not this mode of production the whole time
covid is a product of capitalism (deforestation, urbanization in peripheral lands puts people in direct contact with novel diseases) and climate change is too (fossil fuels as capital’s unique trick for profits by disaggregation of production, labor arbitrage, capital mobility)
and we wonder why workers often break conservative on this issues… regressive sales taxes on gasoline, moral browbeating over lifestyle? blaming the worker who (rightfully) distrusts the same lackeys of profit who gave us NAFTA and the capitalists who give us $300 insulin?
there’s no individual solution to a collective problem and, more, the hegemonic ideology of individual solutions makes collective action that much harder. the only solution to the contractions/tragedies of class society is a class movement to directly oppose the class system
No.741039
>>741029so basically youre saying vaccine mandates and quarantines are good? glad we agree
No.741091
>>741039They are the lib side of a culture war. The only truly leftist stance is ZERO COVID. Anything less is different degrees of capitalist realism.
No.741131
>>741091>The only truly leftist stance is [IDEALISM]wow, tell us more.
No.741226
>>741202what culture war?
No.741229
>>741208>>741226have you considered reading a thread before posting
>>741029>>741039>>741091 No.743393
>>743338Soros is an anti-communist piece of shit, pointing out his nefarious influence is legitimate.
No.743395
>>743393Did you read the essay? It's just a long-winded way of whining about vaccines.
No.743691
>>742213thank you ben "red" garrison
No.744500
>>696814total poverty may be what it takes to get amerifats to take more political action than vooooting
No.744507
>>740932"natural immunity" from contracting covid previously won't protect you from variants dumbass
this is why we need a strong Tankie state to forcibly vaxx people. Break down their front doors and fill with them with Sputnik vax
No.745271
>>744507>"natural immunity" from contracting covid previously won't protect you from variants dumbassAnd neither will a vaccine made for the alpha variant spike protein.
No.745321
>>744507>"natural immunity" from contracting covid previously won't protect you from variants dumbassFirst off, the fact that you needed to put something like natural immunity in quotation marks reveals that you are an absolute bitch. Since when is the concept of natural immunity controversial? Do we have to go back to medieval theories about miasmas? Fucking hell.
Secondly, as the other anon pointed out, the mRNA vaccines are specifically designed to prevent you from going to the hospital from the
alpha variant. And they did that … less than moderately successful looking at the results.
>this is why we need a strong Tankie state to forcibly vaxx people. Break down their front doors and fill with them with Sputnik vaxLARP
No.746075
>>745321>Since when is the concept of natural immunity controversial?When scientific terms became political buzzwords, and were used in word salad propaganda pieces like "vaccines + natural immunity = super immunity."
>Do we have to go back to medieval theories about miasmas?This would actually be a big improvement because aerosol transmission has been severely downplayed in preference for fomite transmission in order to get people back to work and free organizations of responsibility for infections that happen on site. If aerosol transmission weren't being intentionally buried and a bigger effort was made to focus on improving ventilation and air filtration techniques like corsi boxes, in conjunction with other non medical interventions, the pandemic wouldn't be nearly as severe as it currently is.
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>>751676it read like patiently listening to a rambling uncle who is too engrossed in his own story to notice that you are getting annoyed.
No.751694
>>740624Why is mental illness so prevalent in Denmark?
No.751697
>>751676Jannies are right, kys faget
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>>751676I'd like to read it. Zizek's brilliant.
No.756351
Don't worry guys covid will evolve to be less deadl-
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/02/19/viru-f19.html
>In South Africa, where Omicron was first sequenced, the seven-day moving average of new infections has plateaued at 2,500 per day. The death rate, however, has risen tenfold since mid-November, with an average of 164 deaths per day. Of note, more than 9,000 South Africans have died during the Omicron wave accounting for almost 10 percent of all COVID deaths. Rates of children dying were up by a factor of 2.2.
>On February 17 there were 435 deaths reported, a single-day high during the Omicron phase of the pandemic. In line with these findings, the moving average case fatality rate of COVID-19 in the country has been rapidly climbing. Viral sequences submitted to GISAID between January 24 to February 7, 2022, found that BA.2 accounted for 65 percent of cases. No.756360
>>756351>The BA.2 variant became dominant in Denmark by mid-January, displacing BA.1, and presently accounts for more than 90 percent of all sequenced SARS-CoV-2 samples in Denmark. Cases peaked at the end of January, where they have remained consistently high with a seven-day moving average of over 40,000 cases per day. Worrisome has been the acceleration of the daily death counts, which have edged above last winter’s peak. Thirty-three people are now dying every day.
>Placing these figures into context for comparative purposes, Denmark has 5.83 million people while the US has 331 million. If Denmark had an equivalent population, the case rate would be over 2.2 million infections daily and the daily death close to 1,900 per day.oh boy
No.756486
OMG IT'S HAPPENING A COVID FLEW OVER UKRAINE
No.756831
>>755986The caption reads 'The frenchmen satisfied with the lifting of the restrictions'.
No.756881
>>743338>A year and a half after the arrival of Virus, some may have started wondering why the usually unscrupulous ruling elites decided to freeze the global profit-making machine lol off to a bad start already, they froze nothing
No.757063
>>756360>oh boyand yet, Denmark has removed all restrictions, including testing requirements on entry into the country, if you have two or three vaxx shots you don't need a test.,
No.757078
>>757063I mean, what really counts is how many people are hospitalized, in a country like Denmark, you don't just stay at home when you so sick that you might die. I haven't heard the hospitalization rate going up like last year in Denmark, UK, Germany, etc. so all this fearmongering is pretty silly.
The WSWS is also David North's cult, they called for the most fascistic measures against the virus, don't take medical advice from them.
About the death statistic, everyone with a positive CoVID test counts as "dead from the virus" but naturally that would go up with a more infections variant that however is milder in terms of symptoms.
No.757134
>>757078>they called for the most fascistic measures against the virus<noooo they want to genocide inocent virinos ;___;
>About the death statistic, everyone with a positive CoVID test counts as "dead from the virus" You aut righter have been screeching this for years now and i have yet to see a single shred of evidence for it
>milder in terms of symptomsMilder than delta, deathlier than the wuhan strain
You really want your wageslaves back to work dont you
No.757146
>>757134How about the proposal of Proff Wolff that workers should be compensated for covid-19 related income losses, it could be payed by using all the extra covid-profits that capitalists made during the crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo13VR9C2uIgo to 6 minutes and 5 seconds
No.757167
>>757134>noooo they want to genocide inocent virinos ;___;I mean none of these measures will actually exterminate the virus (it's gonna become endemic) not have they worked particularly well. However lockdowns and vaccine mandates had a significant impact on people's lives, mostly poorer people, and the global south. A current estimation is that per lockdown 10k children die in the global south due to interrupted supply chains.
>You aut righter have been screeching this for years now and i have yet to see a single shred of evidence for itI am not on the right, and this is literally how the statistics is created. Positive test = died from CoVID. There is no other way to do this anyway, tests are only partially reliable and you can not make safe statements about the cause of death for every single patient. Maybe there are countries that use different metrics, but I am talking about the Western countries here.
>Milder than delta, deathlier than the wuhan strainAgain, I would contest the statistic about the death count. More people gonna have Omicron, so there will be more deaths regardless of the cause of death. Also "Wuhan strain", wtf.
>You really want your wageslaves back to work dont youThe entire point of vaccine mandates is to get people back to work so the capitalists don't have to undertake any safety measures for their workers, you just got your useless vaccine and you get back into your wagie cagey.
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>>757167 (me)
>>757134Also lets not forget that they refuse to accept the same methodology for people dying from the vaccine, that is really a fucking hypocracy here.
It's probably not that much (about 10k in EU, mostly younger people) but it's still an argument to be against mandates when the efficacy of the vaccine is so weak and outdated against newer variants
No.757237
>>757146Yes, that is quite literally the only correct stance as a socialist
No.757458
>>756351you're better off believing the opposite of what weird sex web site says
No.757460
>>757146and they'll give you a wopping $5
No.758629
>>757134>You aut righter have been screeching this for years now and i have yet to see a single shred of evidence for itYou're aut right stupid. must be simple being a lib, just listen to whatever the media tells you and you get to feel superior… to people who know more than you lol
Oh, and here's the evidence, this is right under the table of daily deaths and infections on the State's serum institutions website:
>2: Opgørelsen af antallet af døde omfatter dødsfald, der er registreret indenfor 30 dage efter påvist covid-19 infektion - på baggrund af positiv PCR test.covid-19 er ikke nødvendigvis den tilgrundliggende årsag til dødsfaldet.>covid-19 er ikke nødvendigvis den tilgrundliggende årsag til dødsfaldet.https://www.sst.dk/da/corona/covid-19-og-ny-coronavirus/coronatalTranslation: Update of the number of dead includes deaths that are registered within 30 days of a covid-19 infection - on the basis of a PCR test. covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.
>covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.
>covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death. That comes from Statens Serum Institute, are they aut right?
No.758631
>>757167>Also "Wuhan strain", wtfpeople in this thread are getting corona info from CNN and MSNBC.
No.759096
>>758631what's wrong with saying Wuhan strain?
No.759157
>>759096it implies covid was made in a lab in Wuhan
No.759305
>>758629>denmark>country that wants to desperately wants to open up and do away with health measures so that their porkies can make money again says that it is no big dealWoah
>are they aut right too?Every NATO country is borderline fascist, yes
No.759327
>>759305What are you talking about? Working never stopped, only some petty bourgeois restaurants and corner stores had to close down. When we are talking about "measures" they mean vaccine passports. I also fail to see how the lockdown, the vaccine rollout, mask production, etc. was not a golden cow for the bourgeoisie? Every statistic indicates that during lockdown and mandates that private profits went up, even though the overall GDP contracted.
Again, if the situation in the hospitals remains stable, I don't see why you couldn't open up? Unless you want the state to punish the unvaccinated for no reason, just for the sake of it.
No.759394
>>759327>What are you talking about? Working never stopped, only some petty bourgeois restaurants and corner stores had to close down. As a labourer I was told i wasn't allowed to work. Are you retarded? Did you just ignore reality and the news the last year and make your own head-cannon up?
No.759405
>>759327>I don't see why you couldn't open up? Because the point is to
not get the entire population infected with rona and keep rolling the dice on long covid. That was the approach since Delta and clearly kicking the can down the road isn't working.
>Unless you want the state to punish the unvaccinated for no reason, just for the sake of it.Their spanking shall be thorough and merciless.
No.759438
>>759305>asks for proof that deaths with covid are counted as covid deaths>gets it>instead of saying thank you, spergs off on an incomprehensible tangentnever change, /leftypol/
Point is, governments always said that restrictions were temporary until everyone gets vaccinated. Once you have vaccinated over 80% of the population (herd immunity threshold) there really isn't any need for restrictions, social distancing or any other measures. Canada has also achieved over 80% vaccination rate. If you don't open after that, then when?
>>759405>the point is to not get the entire population infected with rona and keep rolling the dice on long covidvaccinated people don't get long covid, it's only in those who've been hit particularly bad with covid and gotten pneumonia or some other illness alongside covid. vaccinations prevent this. therefore, if you're vaccinated, you can move on with your life.
No.759441
>>759438the trucker protest wasn't even about lockdowns, it was about petit boug truckers needing to be vaccinated to go over the US/CA border
No.759443
>>759394In many countries you had subsidized short-time work to reduce crowded production enterprises. Office work was done from home. If you didn't get to work, you probably work in some service sector or a smaller business. Were you compensated in full? Because if not, you should be against the lockdowns, what's the point of not getting sick when you are thrown out of your house.
>>759405>Because the point is to not get the entire population infected with ronaBut eventually that will happen when the virus is endemic. You probably also had the Spanish flu once, but over a hundred years it's in its n-th mutation and indistinguishable from a cold. That will also be the case with COVID at some point.
I think the draconian restrictions are a much bigger threat now because they may keep some of them in place in some countries even when it's completely endemic. Because the problem is that they have further implemented austerity on the healthcare system, even during the pandemic. I may remind you that the influenza wave killed tens of thousands of people in 2018/2019 flu season, hospitals were full, endangered groups started to get vaccinated. Incidences will also continue to stay up, probably even more as milder variants get more infectious. So unless they fix the metric, they can use this as justification for years to keep restrictions in case, with mandatory booster shots every 3-6 months. This would be an endless cash cow for the monopoly bourgeoisie.
>Their spanking shall be thorough and merciless.So you offer no solutions, just more appeals to the neoliberal state to take people's social security, jobs, livelihood away. If you really are for a complete vaccine mandate, how will you do it? Forced vaccination by cops? Completely unfeaseable. There were mandates in the past, but they weren't as politicized and I can guarantee the 30% who don't get vaxxed will not get the vaccine now if they even made it to those restrictions.
Also, I would remind you that the vaccines were designed to specifically target the wild strain, we don't know if they work for Omicron. Furthermore, we are only now starting forth phase clinical trials for this completely novel mRNA technology. Both sides are hardened their stances right now. The unvaccinated overplay the danger of the vaccine, and the government and corporations deny that any side effects would even be possible and tell people who are vaccine longhaulers and just aks what they should do that they are "fascists".
No.759448
inject them with tetanus
No.759451
>>757146OK, but how are you going to do this? Ask them nicely?
No.759454
>>759451Inject them with Tetanus too.
No.759464
>>759441Yes most people don't realize that the lockdown protests in 2020 was mostly led by libertarian types and business owners. But that is not necessarily true for the protests against vaccine mandates, because you have 40-10% unvaccinated in almost every country, tens of millions of people. It's numerically impossible that they are all right-wingers. So to say that protesters against vaccine mandates also want absolutely no measures taken and just let the virus run its course is wrong.
It's mostly about exclusion. Everyone can wear a mask and do social distancing. With the vaccine mandates, you have complete exclusion of a minority, while the majority "gets their freedom back" and they start spreading the virus around.
Better would be a generalized test mandate for everybody, with free tests. What China does. This would also make everything a lot safer, and you don't have the vaccinated not behave like retards and going partying again without getting tested.
No.759466
>>759454>>759448I'm going to inject your mom with my dick
No.759469
>>759466Comebacks like this, you clearly deserve your money and easy live
No.759530
>>759438>Once you have vaccinated over 80% of the population (herd immunity threshold) there really isn't any need for restrictions, social distancing or any other measures. The vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission, so all you're doing by keeping everything open after achieving that is breeding strains that evade those vaccines.
Great job.
No.759535
>>759443Endemic doesn't mean harmless you stupid asshole.
No.759542
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/in-warning-to-us-covid-rates-soar-after-denmark-lifts-all-restrictions-183342093.html
>“Endemicity” — the less disruptive coexistence with a virus that comes after a pandemic — “just identifies a pathogen that’s fixed itself in our population so stubbornly that we cease to be seriously perturbed by it,” the Atlantic’s Katherine Wu has written. “We tolerate it. Even catastrophically prevalent and deadly diseases can be endemic, as long as the crisis they cause feels constant and acceptable to whoever’s thinking to ask.”
>The current situation in Denmark offers an early glimpse of how that kind of “endemic” future could unfold. In late January, COVID cases there appeared to crest. But driven by BA.2, a more transmissible subvariant of Omicron, they began to rise again immediately after mitigation measures were lifted, reaching a new all-time high average of 7,970 cases per million residents on Feb. 13 — 13 times the country’s previous peak, recorded in December 2020.
>That’s an astronomical amount of virus. In comparison, the U.S. and the U.K. both topped out at around 2,500 cases per million residents at the height of their recent Omicron waves. No.759544
>>759530>all you're doing by keeping everything open after achieving that is breeding strains that evade those vaccines.>Great job.wait, so when should we open up? also, "vaccines cause vaccine-resistant strains" is literally an antivaxx talking point. Data shows that virus mutates much more in the unvaccinated population.
No.759554
>>759542now show us number of hospitalisations, ICU bed and respirators in use, look at the number of deaths. all of those numbers are low because of vaccines
>before most people were vaxxed>everyone get vaxxed!! vaccines will save us from restrictions! >now that most people are vaxxed>well, vaccines don't work so well anyway we still need a lockdownthey increased the powers of the police state and now they don't want to scale it down. NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!!!
No.759566
>>759535No, but what are you gonna do? Keeping everything in lockdown forever? You know that also ruins your immune system.
>>759554What is the most dystopian thing is that politicians and the pharmaceutical industry seem to almost
hope that the next variant will be worse and some horrifying mutation.
No.759573
>>759544>wait, so when should we open up?When the virus is gone you dumb cunt. The problem is that the political administrations around the world refuse to commit to serious mitigation procedures and immediately lift even the lightest ones as soon as infections start to go down, leading to new mass outbreaks and repeating the cycle.
>vaccines cause vaccine-resistant strains" is literally an antivaxx talking point. That's not what I said you illiterate fuckhole. The vaccines need to be supported with non-pharmaceutical measures like distancing, quarantines, masks, etc, since the vaccines don't prevent transmission or infection. China's anti-covid measures have proven how valuable and necessary these measures are in supporting the vaccines.
>>759554Post your numbers, faggot.
>>759566>Keeping everything in lockdown forever? They haven't been locked down at all you porky shill.
No.759618
>Pro-virus fags fall silent because they need their handlers to tell them how to respond
No.759628
>>759601First image: Look at how many more cases there are, and compare that to how many new deaths there are. It's clear that, while more people are dying now than before, the amount of deaths per case is significantly lower.
No.759702
>>759618Is that a new euphemism for plague rat?
No.760262
>>759618i call them covidpozzers. Please be clever and shorten it.
No.765336
>>756831thanks
this comic is still confusing
No.765702
>>740850It's because they
don't have COVID in North Korea you fuck. Show me some examples, no, show me just one example, just one,
o n e, this number: 1, of a North Korean news outlet declaring that Covid isn't serious or that vaccination ain't worth the risks of side effects.
No.766583
>>759573> China's anti-covid measures have proven how valuable and necessary these measures are in supporting the vaccines.lmao. You mean like welding citizen's doors shut and hauling non-complaints straight to jail?
Yes, if only we were China.
This is probably why Trudeau praised China and just acquired emergency war measure powers to emulate them.
No.766615
>>766583China: Like 3000 COVID deaths
USA: 900,000
yes I think we should be more like China
No.766754
>>766615You really think China had only 3K Covid deaths in a country of over a billion people?
Such naivety. The US is also downplaying the total deaths.
No.766795
>>766754Vietnam had like 30 deaths before the second wave hit.
It's perfectly possible in a normal society where you're unwilling to 9/11 your people every day so capital isn't mildly inconvenienced.
No.766800
>>766754Why not? Everyone says that they lie, so much that I think that I think they are actually telling the truth about their numbers. About as much as they can at least. You can't be that precise.
No.766806
>>766754China actually tried to eliminate COVID with so called 'authoritarian' measures (like building quarantine hospitals) rather than saying 'waaaa it's too hard uwu' so yes I believe their numbers
No.766809
>>766754So what's the actual number, 6k? 9k? It would still be tiny compared to any other country. "NOOOOOO THEY'RE LYING IT CAN'T BE NOOOOOOO" is just burger cope
No.766875
>>766754Yes they've eliminated covid, like you could have too, but you choose to flatten the curve. In the end, both you and China will relax all restrictions and everyone will get covid, just that in China that will happen under a weaker variant + vaccinated population + effective therapeutics. It's just a policy difference, little else.
No.766956
>>766875>just that in China that will happen under a weaker variant + vaccinated population + effective therapeutics. It's just a policy difference, little else.just like Europe: omicron + vaxx'd pop + a healthcare system that isn't collapsing.
No.816531
The document that Pfizer promised to release about the vaccines has tons of redactions. Why? Because they are clearly hiding something. Here is a long-ass thread about it:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMasterjohn/status/1499143797875294214From my limited understanding, they never really tested the side effects of the vaccine on other organs than the liver. The redacted parts imply huge problems in terms of side effects and efficacy.
No.819578
>>766754Cope and project.
No.848459
looks like nobody cares about the flu anymore
No.851415
LOOK AT ME! I'M BOOOOOOSTIN>Pfizer CEO: Fourth shot of COVID vaccine "necessary"https://www.axios.com/pfizer-ceo-fourth-covid-shot-93498679-4063-4545-902f-5e9ac250494d.htmlwhere's the anprim flaggot, I wanna hear xit's take on this. 4th shot of the exact same vaccine. It will work!
on making Pfizer stock go up and the CEO millions get booooooooooosted
No.851519
>>851509dumb anti-vaxxer conservative drumpftard
how about you learn science, you science-denier? you will get boosted as many times as they tell you, that's science!
No.851522
>>851519man you surely know me well
No.851526
>>851519sry I thought you werent joking. Irony is so hard when the same shit is told unironically a few reddit boards over
No.851681
I will put the third one sometime in april, now im busy.
No.854783
I'm kinda tired of wearing masks outdoors tbh
are these even proven to work? not the masks themselves you retarded libs, but wearing them outdoors.
No.854801
>>854783Depends, are there crowds of pedestrians with you outside lad?
The masks aren't to protect you it's to lower the risk of spreading the Rona if you happen to have it and don't know it
No.854853
>>854801>are there crowds of pedestrians with you outside lad?Not really, I live in the periphery of a smallish (200k pop) city.
I wish the central gubmint took these things in consideration but alas I'll have to wear the mask outdoors for an indefinite amount of time.
No.865945
Storeshittistahn's Covid response so shameful it convinces a burger right libertarian that treating the uninsured through public health spending is a good thing
https://reason.com/2022/03/16/we-cant-fund-covid-treatments-for-the-uninsured-because-we-spent-trillions-of-covid-aid-on-wasteful-garbage/>This would be slightly less infuriating if it weren't all so predictable. Two years ago, as Congress was debating the first round of COVID emergency funding, I wrote that lawmakers would "end up spending money we don't have to solve a crisis that can't be fixed by spending more money."
>I was not completely correct. Funding COVID treatments for the most vulnerable was and will continue to be a worthwhile public investment. But it's a damn shame that so much of the COVID relief money spent over the past two years went to everything except COVID relief. No.891322
>>891309
Get the coof and die.
No.904077
>>904065>new symptom : being sickNo way
No.904085
Nothingburger, I still have to wagecuck tomorrow.
No.905232
Now that Covid is over, China is being ridiculed and disparaged for ever attempting to eliminate it, and there are absolutely 0 NPI being enforced anywhere in the world, I think it's time to talk about how many clinical studies have begun to come out that ALL AGRRE that even mild cases of Covid-19 cause significant cognitive impairment and does irreversible, observable brain damage, and only the specific mechanism by which this is happening is uncertain right now.
No.905235
>>905232Severe brain inflammation, neuronal death, bleeding the brain, decline of gray matter, observed across all covid-19 studies of humans, monkey, mice, even in cases with *no respiratory symptoms*.
No.905238
>>904077That's a Britishism for 'throwing up' in case you didn't know
No.905240
>>905235>>905232I guess the bourgies had to do something to replace leaded gasoline.
Personally I had COVID and I don't really /feel/ dumber… but then who knows, I wasn't exactly the brightest screwdriver in the toolbox before anyway.
No.905283
>>905240The brain damage might translate to faster aging of the brain. You'll go senile at 70 instead of 80.
No.905329
>>905232I wish I was in China. My stupid country even stopped mask-wearing. I had covid and while it was mild, I still have a cough a month later, and feel more tired, insomniac and brainfogged than usually.
No.905351
>>905283Well shit, none of us are gonna live that long anyways.
No.905356
>>905355Sure, man, sure. Nobody on this site is gonna get their names on the list for saving in the domed/underground bourgie colonies.
No.905559
>>905235>Severe brain inflammation, neuronal death, bleeding the brain, decline of gray matterbut enough of last evening. Where were we at?
No.905561
>>904065My favorite new covid symptom:
>feeling sick or being sickGenius.
>>905329Took me 3 months to recover. I feel ok now. I've been getting more retarded as I age but more knowledgeable which is nice. Marxism really does give you analytic skills which are pretty powerful. I need to brush up on math though, probably never going to do that….
>>905559Krautanon, now that restrictions are being lifted in Germany, do you think Covid is over or are they going to come back with new restrictions?
Are mass protests back on the menu with no covid restrictions and 20-50% higher food prices?
No.907103
>>905561>Took me 3 months to recover. I feel ok nowThat's great to hear, anon. I really hope I recover in due time as well. Best of luck in your studies!
No.912016
Are chinese really starving because of the lockdown and sky high prices of groceries or is this westernoid propaganda??
No.912040
>>702877How do other countries look, can't really infer anything definitive from this
No.912065
opinions on the boosters?
they don't seem effective and allegedly there are a shit ton of newly listed negative side effects.
but there's gonna be several more waves if the government of burgerstan continues to be this incapable
No.912072
>>912065Got covid after I just took my third booster and so did my boyfriend. None of us got any symptoms while our unvaccinated daughter got pretty sick. At the same time most of your friends got sick and in their families it was a noticeable difference between people who had gotten two shots and people who had gotten three. All of the boostered ones were pretty much symptom free. Anecdotal evidence sure, but I don't think you can say that boosters are ineffective.
No.914907
At the outset, trading a million lives (way, way more than the original worst case scenario which was hundreds of thousands) to meet 3Q GDP growth targets was seen, rightly, as the rationality of truly dystopic capitalism. Now, this view is implicitly accepted as the correct, moral consensus, and those who would choose lives over USD as derided as the true dystopics. Just something to think about, eh.
No.914917
>>912016What they lack are fresh deliveries for logistical reasons. Chinese care about fresh produce much, much more than other people. Their diets are much higher quality than ours lol and are made of few preserved and canned or frozen foods.
No.914921
>>912065didn't bother getting the vaccine so doesn't really apply
No.914924
>>914921Google Covid neuronal death, since you like to do your own research.
No.914925
>>912016yeah have you seen the screeching videos
No.914934
>>914924seems speculative at best
No.914939
>>914917I find the pushback to the starvation claims on weibo to be amusing since people pull the “when I was a kid I ate only porridge everyday and my parents rendered all the fat from strips of beef and used that to flavor our food for weeks and we were considered well fed” card. Lel. They have plenty of grains and shit they just want their veggies.
No.914946
>>914925Honestly, from in China, this just makes Shanghai look like a bunch of arrogant, whining cucks who did this on purpose because they wanted “western style” Covid policy and I predict this vulgar response will be the legacy and Shanghai’s clout will be severely diminished. They have had to deal with 1/10th the ordeal Wuhan did and responded with 10x the whining.
No.914951
>>914934It’s reproduces by literally every single study lol. It’s emerging as an established fact and nobody wants to deal with it at this point because they’ve declared “Covid is over” and “it’s just a cold”. Yes it’s just a cold that caused brain damage equivalent to 2-10 years of aging.
No.914957
>>914951yeah we'll see doubtful how serious it is though
No.914976
>>914972Just. Google it. I’m not lying when I say every single study shows the same result.
No.915004
>>914976i googled it and the CEO of the Googles says you're wrong and a schizo
No.915034
>>915004https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-09410-7#Fig1>Spike protein induces neuronal death in micehttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258690v3>before and after images of “mild” case found pronounced reduction in grey matter and am increase of of diffusion indices in specific regions of the brainhttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.11.21258690v3>People who had recovered from COVID-19, including those no longer reporting symptoms, exhibited significant cognitive deficits versus controls when controlling for age, gender, education level, income, racial-ethnic group, pre-existing medical disorders, tiredness, depression and anxiety. The deficits were of substantial effect size for people who had been hospitalised (N = 192), but also for non-hospitalised cases who had biological confirmation of COVID-19 infection (N = 326). Analysing markers of premorbid intelligence did not support these differences being present prior to infection.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltextAnd on and on
No.915039
>>915034ok but both the vaccine and a natural case come with the spike protein.
No.915050
>>915039Which vaccine are you taking about? You know there's multiple covid vaccines that are functionally different ?
Actually, you probably don't, since you're a truther
No.915541
>>915034looks speculative at best
No.919967
looks like china is fukt
No.920049
>>919967Shanghai bastards.
No.920084
>>919969Are these cases restricted to Shanghai?
If not, the CPC should just flatten the entirety of the city for treason
No.920117
>>920084It’s not possible to contain it within Shanghai.
No.920121
>>920117Basically while Shenzhen locked down at 100 cases and cleared their outbreak in a well, Shanghai attempted to do some light restrictions to get out of zero Covid in a managed way, and the result was cases exploding because of Omicron, and half a million Chinese will be dead by this time next year.
No.921831
I hate how we're all supposed to act like none of this ever happened, and is still happening.
>Go back to work peasants
No.946031
>>945144Proof that public health measures work and technological measures (vaccines, drugs) are at best a bandage on an open wound.
No.946032
>>946031all public health measures are deployed along with technological measures though
No.956855
So after the entire narrrative collapsed I guess we should pretend it never happened. Okay.
I will never forget this.
No.957069
>>956855 It doesn't matter what you think. They have the best dashboards, the best live data and society has been conditioned over the last 2 decades to be controlled by social media. All the incentives are in place for established powers to cause a pandemic whenever they feel a threat to their power.
When you have access to live social media data, the dashboard, the media and levers of power, it seems like it's endgame for the citizens? I don't think people realize this. Is democracy over ffs?
We have to change the incentive structures.
No.957994
>>957987
yes
No.958156
>>957987
reported for being lenin hat
No.976418
>>976399I was going to be snarky but man it's funny realizing how the economy is melting down anyway
Lol
No.977575
>>977320
well if the cuba-iran open source vaccine is off the ground finally then i hope the us IP isn't needed
No.977593
>>977576Victims of liberalism
No.992138
>>915050moderna/pfizer have spike protein
i stupid now
No.992370
>>992114
Cope.
No.1025134
Tested positive for covid last Friday lads.
No.1025136
>>1025134Only cause can be bile in the sanguine, not looking good for you. That's why you should keep some basil in your pocket.
No.1025335
>>1025134Get well soon, comrade. This board won't be the same without you.
No.1025744
How can I distinguish if I have Long Covid or/and ADHD and depression?
No.1026279
>>1025335Thanks.
>>1025350I'm mostly fine now, just feel a bit tired and sometimes coughing.
No.1040411
Caught corona again, so this thread is once more relevant. Last timeI had it was September last year. Still have my sense of taste and smell, but feel like absolute shit. Double-vaxxed (last year), but looks like it didn't help. Feel way worse than first time, 21 days after 2nd vaxx dose.
Every bone in my body aches, coughing fits leave my throat sore, keep blowing my nose. I thought it was the flu, because this is how a flu feels for me, but PCR says corona. Probably omicron or something after. My eyes hurt, I want to sleep but I can't, I've been in a delirium between wakefulness and sleep since yesterday.
Caught it at a punk festival this weekend. Who would've thought partying and moshing for three days straight with no sleep on weed, speed and beer with hundreds of punks all over Europe in a crowded, mostly closed and unventilated venue could have given me corona?!
But at least I'm good for the summer. Plus I got a week off work, nobody doubts the corona.
>>1025744>>1025744did you have adhd/depression before covid?
No.1040439
>>1040411>did you have adhd/depression before covid?Depression yes, but adhd no. Although adhd maybe is exaggerating it and I only lack motivation.
No.1040442
>>1040411The reinfection of covid are gonna be brutal to some people, even the young. We will pray for your lungs.
No.1040451
>>1040439I used to think I had depression, turns out it was ADHD.
>>1040442So far it has been a dry, heaving cough. I heard you have lung problems if they fill with liquid.
No.1043746
>>1040411Good luck comrade, uncritical support for your immune system against roundboi imperialism.
No.1045576
Cognitive Impact of Severe COVID Is Equivalent to 20 Years of Aging, Study FindsWe all know that COVID-19 can lead to lingering fatigue and brain fog. But one of the most rigorous examinations to date of the long-term cognitive impacts of severe infection has just yielded some pretty unsettling results.
In a study comparing 46 severe COVID-19 patients with 460 matched controls, researchers found the mental impacts of severe COVID-19 six months later can be the equivalent to aging 20 years – going from 50 to 70 years old – or losing 10 autism score points.
"Cognitive impairment is common to a wide range of neurological disorders, including dementia, and even routine aging, but the patterns we saw – the cognitive 'fingerprint' of COVID-19 – was distinct from all of these," says neuroscientist David Menon from the University of Cambridge in the UK, who was senior author of the study.
But the researchers suggest the likely culprit isn't direct infection, but a combination of factors: including reduced oxygen or blood supply to the brain; clotting of vessels; and microscopic bleeds.
https://www.sciencealert.com/like-20-years-of-aging-study-warns-of-brutal-cognitive-impact-of-severe-covid No.1045595
>>1045576USA fucking up big time if this is the case
No.1045607
>>1045595USA is already run 100% by senile people so it makes no difference really
No.1045633
>>1045576We are probably going to keep finding out new fucked up things that covid does to people.
No.1046019
>>977576>>977593Prof. Jeffrey Sachs:
"I chaired the commission for the Lancet for 2 years on Covid. I'm pretty convinced it came out of a US lab of biotechnology […] We don't know for sure but there is enough evidence. [However] it's not being investigated, not in the US, not anywhere."
No.1046098
>>1045595Piling up more retardation on the most retarded country because of their retarded policies makes perfect sense.
No.1046124
Havent gotten a covid or a single flu or cold since covid started. Also don't wear a mask anywhere anymore and do whatever the hell I want. feelsgoodman
No.1046125
>>1046019>Not a medical scientist I mean…
No.1046149
>>704530>>704518american healthcare really is that bad, and covid 19 really does have long term symptoms
too big for this board
https://i.ibb.co/j3W3Sgw/Covid19-Megathread-Twitter.png No.1046915
>>1046149>https://i.ibb.co/j3W3Sgw/Covid19-Megathread-Twitter.png<vaccination does not appear to be protective against long-COVID features, arrhythmia, joint pain, type 2 diabetes, liver disease, sleep disorders, and mood and anxiety disorders.<we've now shown that vaccination appears to offer no protection against the long-term autoimmune effects of COVID<our vaccines don't stop transmission, and don't appear to stop long-term illnessok schizo
No.1049415
>>1046130I wonder why the actual team itself didn't say that covid was a us bioweapon…
No.1049426
>>1049414Should I be concerned this is increasing exponentially
No.1049448
>>1049426About half the intensity of the Influenza virus mutations.
No.1049475
>>1045576Boomer producer.
No.1050551
>>1049475>boomer removernot bad
>boomer producervery very bad not good
No.1055913
>>1046124update. Just got a cold or covid or donno what. I slipped up somewhere and didnt hand sanitize probably. its germy fuck season in america right now, avoid touching public surfaces
No.1056174
>>1045576>reduced oxygen or blood supply to the brainthis isnt about masks right
No.1064380
How many of those medico-fascist restriction do you think will be enforced in the upcoming fall and winter? My suspicion is that they will be directly tied in with the Ukraine situation and the inflation caused by the war so instead of suffering from inflated prices and supply chain disruptions we will just be barred access in the guise of fighting against a virus.
Will there still be life-threatening repressions this time for people who didn't get their 4th shot with an outdated and untested drug?
I feel like that's coming.
No.1064386
>>1056174wearing a mask is not going to significantly reduce oxygen to the brain.
No.1064389
>>1056174I'd be more concerned with microplastics than a lack of oxygen.
No.1064413
Lots of people missing their appointments cuz they're covided these times. Perhaps because nobody gives any more shit to social distantiation.
What NATO screeching and no oil do to MFs
No.1064473
anecdotal report incoming.
Finally got infected. Ironically during a 7 day period with almost no contact with people.
It felt like no other illness I've ever had. It came on in 20 mins, One minute I was making coffee, 20 mins later_full_ flu-like aches and weakness. Almost zero throat or lung or sinus symptoms. 10 bright red spots on one calf was an unusual symptom, looked like a buckshot. Took 2 aspirin each day for 2 days.
Literally 48 hours later exactly it stopped, like taking off a heavy coat. Back to 90% health maybe. Some chest congestion for the following week, along with massive demotivation, brain fog and weakness. Probably back to 100% now 3 weeks later.
Leaving that aside, I can't stop thinking about the fact that this could be how they could govern now. All the incentives are in place.
Local or national population causing a ruckus with their strikes or whatever? Release the special variant you've prepared earlier, or that your powerful ally has provided. Then send in the mobile auto turrets.
No.1064483
>>1064380just get the jab anon, it's really not that bad
No.1064489
>>1064380you can solve all that by getting injected
No.1064491
>>1064483by now why ont you leave him alone? Do you still wanna argue for the jab, lol? What did it even do
No.1064495
>>1064491mate it would have been even worse without the jab. I mean yeah people still get COVID but rarely die of it, the partial immunity has forced it to become a more infectious/less severe variant
No.1064497
>>1064491>mate it would have been even worse without the jabproof? Or you know what, just keep it. I am so out of that shit. Either it kills me or I couldnt give less of a fuck. And yeah I had it already too. Who hasnt.
No.1064501
>>1064497well have to talk about the left in this big pharma moneygrab eventually, and your delusion will not spare you from that
No.1064503
>>1064501yes anon lets give up on all medicine because its produced by private corporations
No.1064509
>>1064495Total anecdotal experience, could be full of shit: Every person, especially the boostered ones, who got the jab got COVID with medium-heavy symptoms. Every unvaxxed person, including myself (and I've been in crowds almost every day) that I know didn't get COVID OR at least had very very mild symptoms. Also all the boostered people I know have all kinds of injuries, heart problems, constantly get sick, etc. - I think if you get the vaccine (remember it's not actually a vaccine, it's MRN or Vector technology) once it's fine, but three times in a row it sort of fucks you up.
I'm absolutely unafraid of the virus. It really only endangers people at risk, elderly, those with lung cancer. And plus, why does the government go so far as to ruin people's lives of they don't get the vaccine (attacking their social security, jobs, etc.) but for the Influenza nothing has been done at all? Shouldn't Influenza vaccines be mandatory? 2019 20k people died in the US alone just by Influenza.
>>1064483Leave me the fuck alone. I got people in this thread hoping that I would die about a year ago. Fuck all happened. The virus is in its 5th or 6th mutation now, it really is endemic.
No.1064511
>>1064509 (me)
Also, every person who got boostered and got sick as fuck uses the excuse "thank god I got vaccinated, otherwise I would have died"
Absolutely hilarious.
No.1064514
>>1064380there won't be any real restrictions
but I wish we lived in the world of fasc imagination
>>1064473u wot
>could be full of shitexactly
No.1064517
>>1064509>total anecdotal experience>says retarded shitmany such cases
No.1064523
>>1064509anecdotes aren't evidence, but also, what even would be your mechanism for how having a vaccine could make someone's response to COVID be worse? Surely it would do nothing in the absolute worst case? The COVID jabs don't even use live virus so you can't actually contract COVID from them in any case.
No.1064580
>>1064509I was one of the only vaxxed and boostered people in my store when nearly my entire team was out with COVID and I was one of the only people on my team who never got it, even after nearly the entire store had gotten
No.1064634
>>1064509Have you ever considered that the unvaxxed people who did suffer seriously from it did not live to tell the tale?
t. boosted that barely felt anything when I was positive.
No.1064643
>>1064523Idk about it making infections worse, but I got three vax shots and it caused me heart problems so distressing I went to the hospital and I’ve had fucked up vision problems ever since
No.1069085
Fuck finally got covid I think. Omnicron is infectious aa fuck, I dodged covid all the way up until now and was doing everything normally. Though… it felt like the weakest cold Ive ever had. Throat was scratchy for a day, then partial sniffles and tiredness for a few days. I was vaxxed back in December so maybe I was still good or maybe I got a really low viral load.
I gave it to my gf and she got screwed (maybe because I gave her a higher viral load). Fever, chills of 102 and heavy muscle aches and headaches all around for two days now.
Now I'm worried about long covid, though they said omnicron has lower rates of it like 4-5% compared to the 10% of delta. Apparently even vaxxed people that had only mild covid can get long covid later. But vaccines help by reduce clotting risk and shortness of breath risk by 50%.
Watch out anons I would def say its more infectious now than before and burgerstan is in full covering it up mode. This shits probably a bioweapon, viruses don't give people brain fog for years..
No.1069095
Yeah, I also lost my undefeated status this week, got jabbed twice with pfizer's mystery liquid in jan and feb, and so far it inflammation feels really really annoying on my upper respiratory tract but otherwise I'm feeling fine on every other respect, no fever no chills barely any fatigue, muscle aches or cough.
My rightoid relatives behaved like bug chasers on 2020 on got it relatively earlier, one of them lost their sense of taste for like 9 months, that sounds awful lol.
No.1069098
Why didnt anyone lislisten to me when i gave covid medical advice
No.1069222
>>1069206wtf i have a parasite fetish though
No.1069223
>>1069206Ascended schizophrenia
No.1069224
>>1069222Shay I'm asking for real, why are you so disgusting?
No.1069226
>>1069224i watched tentacle rape hentai a lot at a young age
No.1069230
>>1069095my mom still hasn't gotten her normal sense of taste back and she got it back in january 2021.
No.1069232
>>1069226Why would that give you a parasite fetish and not a tentacle rape fetish?
No.1069234
>>1069232well first it was tentacles, then it was egg-laying, and then it was eggs hatching. and those eggs were hatching inside rather than outside.
No.1069236
>>1069222>>1069226animorphs gave me a brain slug parasite kink.
bartimaeus trilogy made my vore fetish worse and added a posession fetish.
hardly alone
No.1069251
>>1069247Who needs brainwashing if you can just directly control them?
Not like they can do anything. Not even squirm.
No.1069322
>>1069095>I'm feeling fine on every other respectWell scratch that - I'm "feeling" fine but I can't fucking sleep and my arm hurts a little.
It's clotting right lads? I guess I'm heading to the doc but I guess a little aspirin will do for now.
No.1069326
>>1069098Can u link me ur protocol again i lost it and might need it now
No.1069328
>>1069307bro don't ruin this for me
No.1069329
>>1069095I know dem feels. It really sucks losing that v card. I'm pretty sure the hand sanitizer must have killed some of the viral load off because I didn't get any whole body symptoms aside from fatigue. I'm getting really paranoid about the brain fog and neurological long covid potential shit now though
No.1069771
>>1069326So ive had covid twice.
>take an aspirin each day youre sick to prevent the microclotting that destroys your heart and lung tissue>vitamins c and d for immune support>mucinex to dry up your lungs and prevent pneumonia>nyquil to sleep because youre not gonna be able to sleep otherwise>lots of fluid like gatorade or water>if you live in america and only get 10 days of sick leave then only take those sick days once the covid migrates to your lungs because thats when its most important to rest No.1069991
Take home tests are less than worthless. I took 2 following all the instructions and looked super close negative both times. I took a molecular test and was positive. Don't even bother wasting money on those
No.1070021
>>1069991>super close negativeIt's called positive. Read the instructions. All three tests agreed.
No.1070022
>>1069578>>1069771reason i never got the vax
No.1070458
>>1070021No I meant I looked super closely with a flashlight and it was clearly showing negative. Then the molecular showed positive, the take homes are garbage
No.1071347
>>1069771>>take an aspirin each day youre sick to prevent the microclotting that destroys your heart and lung tissueI took 2 aspirin each of the 2 days that I felt sick, only because of flu-like aches. Nice to hear that I was protecting heart and lung tissue too.
Seems like a sensible treatment protocol, where's it from?
No.1071363
>>1070453Unless you have some preconditions or are above 80 years old there is a microscopic chance anything will happen to you beyond the symptoms of a regular flu (influenza).
The "long COVID" shit was always a meme. There is "long influenza" too, hell, you could even have long term impairments due to a regular cold.
Just be glad you got the "recovered" status when the next wave of repressions fly in by fall and winter.
No.1071370
>>1070453Unlikely. You'll maybe still feel like shit for a month or three afterwards.
It took me a month before I felt non-retarded.
No.1071963
>>1071363where's ur lenin hat, bro
No.1075253
>not in general
>twitter
didn't read and kept not reading. reported
No.1075910
>>1071363Long Covid is not bullshit but it’s just politically incorrect to talk about it lol. Covid fucks up your cognition, can create long term problems and can activate other diseases. You should absolutely want to avoid or mitigate it.
No.1075918
>>1071363I've spoken to people that claim to have long COVID and idk, they are jobless, in debt, and poor as fuck, seems like it is real to me, otherwise why wouldn't they just get a job like they had before COVID
No.1077244
does anyone have a source on the mysterious flu-like illness that struck america in like 2018 and was probably covid from a lab-leak?
No.1077258
>>1077244No, it's bullshit. With as infectious as it is, and the absence of any type of containment response, it wouldn't have taken until l2020 to get a full-blown pandemic. Also: fuck you Shay.
No.1077262
Funny to think about how when the whole covid shit started anons here were making posts about purposefully getting it and and finding sneaky ways to infect bougies as a form of biological warfare kek
No.1077686
>>1077262It was a lot deadlier back then, and a number of low-level porkies and politicians actually died. Now it just has a chance of giving you dementia.
No.1080058
Is there any truth to the mass vaccine die off /pol keeps shilling? I'm sure there's been vaxed people that have died, likely not totally due to the vax. But the way they talk about it is like vaxed people are dropping like flies shortly after the shot.
No.1080235
>>1080058>Is there any truth to [anything] /pol keeps shillingNo
No.1080242
>>1080058ive been vaxxed all the way with no side effects
dont listen to anything /pol/yps are pushing
No.1080272
>>108005880% of my country is vaccinated, no huge spike in deaths.
Yep it's bullshit
No.1080344
>>1080058I saw a /pol/yp complaint that after all their friends got vaccinated they appeared like zombies, with sluggish movements, sunken eyes, and brain fog. then I realised it was fake because what /pol/yp has friends?
No.1080360
So what's with this shit about Biden getting covid? Do you think he'll be fine or is he fucked?
No.1080404
>>1080360Biden have such puddle for brain that long Covid might actually be an improvement.
No.1107828
>>1107824
The question isn't even that IMO. The vaccine was pushed to restore order, not to safeguard people. There was never an interest to contain the virus in any meaningful way, just slow it down a bit so that hospitals wouldn't be flooded with moribund people. They immediately normalized that getting the virus is inevitable (it wasn't) that their criminally negligent management of the virus was the only way, and that forced vaccinations were justified. China disproved this for 2.5 years straight and of course the cope is to accuse China of everything, from inventing the virus, lying about number of infected, and containing it with 1984 Mind Control Stalin Hitler Authoritarianism.
No.1107834
>>1107828I agree. But it still rings my alarm bells, that the only vaccines available in the West are MRNA tech or vector vaccines. Sinovac is still
verboten and even the pseudo-inactivated vaccine Valneva is not released yet, at least not in my country.
With all the schizo shit out of the way, this just seems like a huge cashgrab for the pharmaceutical complex. China defeats the virus by social measures and beefs up their medical system. Meanwhile, the efficacy of Western vaccines seems to be rather marginal.
If you look at their testing policy during the vaccine rollout, the testing policy when mandates where lifted, and all that shit, you inevitably arrive at a conclusion that it's all working in tandem to maximize profits despite all contradictions. And then you see the vaccine being promoted as a miracle cure, so you start asking questions. That's why I am distrustful who calls for more forced measures against the so-called unvaccinated which seems more like a cultural signifier to me than a sincere demand.
No.1107837
>>1107824
I developed severe chest problems and heart palpitations with the booster, and have had visual snow syndrome and eye floaters ever since, don’t believe people saying there are no side effects and it’s all /pol/, I legit have to learn to live with my eyesight being fucked up for the rest of my life
No.1107840
>>1107834We're on the same page. Everything regarding this COVID situation has left me astounded at the capacity to profit over anything, particularly health and death. The western powers, and by that I mean companies and the politicians they buy and give scripts to, are entirely cynical. It is hard to believe that these super organisms are made up of humans. Worse still is that very likely 90+% of the humans that make up those super organisms think they are moral and usually do the right thing. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The corollary here is that Capital bends good intentions to its will.
No.1108189
>>1107837One day you won't even remember the difference
No.1108200
>>1064523>what even would be your mechanism for how having a vaccine could make someone's response to COVID be worse?Pretty simple. If the "side effects" (really just the normal effects of the stuff your immune system is supposed to respond to) are not merely transitory, but at least somewhat permanent, you can still be dealing with the effects of the vaccine when you get actual covid, and then the effects of the covid add on top of the effects of the vaccine.
No.1108287
>>1108200But you do know that simple medical drugs like ibuprofen and such has also side effects, right? That is, for some people. What is the maximum percentage of people with side effects that is acceptable? I can assure a 100% effective vaccine of anything is impossible.
No.1108309
>>1108189One day maybe, but I’d rather have a lifetime of normal vision over the burger vax
No.1108390
>last 2 weeks
>work with a coworker who refuses to wear a mask for 2 weeks straight in a cramped room, 12 hours a day
>she tests positive and has heavy symptoms
>I barely get a runny nose for 2 days, and test negative on 2 pcr tests and 1 antigen test taken during the last two weeks
how
No.1108413
>>1108340
Yeah but I don't care in return. Some incredibly useful medical drugs have a 1% or 2% chance of heavy side effects. I don't care. They are useful. Tough luck if you had unwanted effects. And now because the US is a free country that lets barbarians dictate policy and run outside without Polio vaccines, they will have a Polio outbreak. these barbarians maybe don't die, but travel to poor countries without vaccines and reintroduce the virus/bacteria there.
No.1108435
I'm involved in a political campaign right now in my country (municipal level). I have to knock on doors to collect signatures so that our candidate may run.
I can tell you from first hand experience that COVID-19 is still very relevant WHILE the media has moved onto Ukraine and so on. I knock on at least one door a day where the potential voter tells me s/he can't come out due to being infected.
No.1108440
>>1108413An odd comparison to make because the Polio vaccine is actually a sterilizing vaccine that prevents the spread of Polio. The COVID vaccines are not.
No.1121893
Now that the dust has settled I think we can all agree that COVID is a cold-tier disease and people got killed en masse by blowing out their lungs with ventilators. Also long covid sounds like state-sanctioned hipochondria to me.
No.1121913
>>1121893you forgot your lenin hat
No.1121927
>>1121913I'm not that poster.
No.1121936
>>1121927It's all right Phil, we know you got banned from Twitter.
No.1121949
>>1121936Who the fuck is Phil?
No.1121968
>>759573>When the virus is gone you dumb cunt. You're genuinely mentally ill.
No.1121982
>>1080058>But the way they talk about it is like vaxed people are dropping like flies shortly after the shot.The government of Alberta, in Canada, used to have a webpage with graphs showing hospitalizations and deaths by age group against how many days since dose#1 and dose#2. Dose#1 had noticeable spikes in both shortly afterwards. This isn't due to covid waves since the different age groups gained access at different times. With how the definitions worked at the time they were likely counted as part of the unvaccinated.
But I don't think /pol has settled on any particular narrative. Maybe the vaccine is supposed to kill today, or maybe in two weeks, or maybe in a few months, or over the coming years. Their goalposts keep shifting. The real problem is when authorities' goalposts seem to keep shifting just as badly, assuming new and uncomfortable evidence is even acknowledged.
>>1121893>Also long covid sounds like state-sanctioned hipochondria to me.There are studies showing biomarkers with strong correlation to long covid. So there's definitely something going on, but I don't know that all the causes or effective solutions are known yet.
No.1122028
Who's Phil?
No.1122205
>>1122028Pheel deez nuts in ur mouth looool
No.1122895
>>714448no one should go mask-off in the age of mass surveillance. you're honestly the baby who won't do the bare minimum to help contain a rampaging disease.
anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will get compulsory shots and sent to re-education facilities.
No.1122896
>>1108340
shit take you will get mandatory inoculations after the revolution
No.1142768
>>1139389Lol
the guy is acting and the "doctor" is a deuschebag, and i dont know how to write douschebag. Might as well be Deutschbag, amirite No.1160793
Should I get the omicron booster
No.1160804
>>1160793I'm sorry lad but I don't have the ability to determine research whether it's safer to take the experimental gene therapy or suffer the omicron in my current state of health
If you have access to Chinese Russian or Cuban boosters for omicron you should probably jump on it
It breaks my heart how many people can't access those for purely political commercial interests
You'll have to do your own research
Anyway
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-08/human-development-set-back-5-years-covid-crises-un-report/101420968 No.1163590
>>1160793>>1160804 (me)
Thinking about this you'd hope they've ironed out some issues at this point w/ regards to the booster
Nevertheless you are the person in charge of your health so research make a decision I imagine getting omicron is not particularly pleasant seperate from more abstract risks
No.1175202
>>1175185I'm sure the U.S. was behind it, whether it leaked out of fort Derrick, or was a deliberate ploy by neocons like Mike Pompeo, Jon bolton, and anti-china hawks like Steve Bannon, released at the Wuhan military games.
No.1175373
Everyone stopped caring about covid months ago.
No.1175378
>>1175323same but I never bothered with the boosters, should I? kinda forgot covid exists tbh
No.1175660
>>1175185The article title that says it came from a US lab has as picture a chinese police…..
And in the article, the author is discredited because he appeared on a show…..
I really hate libs. They're the fucking worst.
No.1179789
My articulate queen did an episode of Good Faith podcast today that might be the most mainstream friendly, vaccine/pharma realist discussion out there. It covers the narrative shifts pretty well. BJG interviews an equally articulate medic.
No.1179865
>>1175323Same except I'm an unvaxed anti-masker. If you took the boosters, you are a retard.
No.1180666
>>1179789That bad faith patreon episode is available at
https://kingdex.xyz/feeds/She found a Doctor willing to step out of line, maybe because he has his own media brand to promote, idk.
The episode basically explores the arguments that Dore has been making and validates them articulately. The closing music was "Living in crazytown" or something.
No.1180742
>>1080058 Yes and no. People aren't mass dying, but that's not actually /pol/s or anyone elses claim, its the VAERS or virus associated side effects that are the issue specifically short-term as long-term impacts are completely unknown for the most part.
The fact of the matter is in the CDC website and you can find the VAERS data base. Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System is meant to report all recorded cases of side effects of any vaccine. But according to themselves they only record 1-10% of actual side-effects. Even assuming the 10% maximum and using the tiny numbers of 2020 for VAERS reporting (~6000) that still means that at base minimum, the number of actual sideffects are roughly 60,000 people if not 600,000 people. That's just going by stats back in 2020. As of Septmber 16, 2022 the current numbers are 2435969 reported sideeffects by either the Moderna or Pfizer vaxx, but I'm going to use the more conservative number listed in the Open VAERS report; 1,407,409 reports and 30,000+ deaths: Now recall the 1-10%? Yeah that's means at base minimum, 14 million people had side-effects and 300,000 died, this is not small-change. And this can be found if you look for it, but otherwise social media and MSM completely ghost and remove any content about these vaccine problems including numerous deaths. Such censorship by porky is suspect because they don't bother to censor other narratives, do they?
https://openvaers.com/covid-data https://archive.ph/ukeWu https://archive.ph/deI51 https://archive.ph/hmrSr https://web.archive.org/web/20220814215330/https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf
>inb4 but my COVID deaths higher than vaccine deaths Doesn't matter, the majority (over 90%) of COVID deaths are due to Comorbidities ranging from lack of immune system to heart problems and simply a lack of nutrition. I dare say a lack of proper care and media hysteria drumming up panic contributed more to these deaths than the virus itself did. The Virus just accelerated existing processes, conveniently so for porky. So the number of deaths purely by COVID is no larger than vaxx deaths and the number of average deaths per year in America has barely changed. But even putting aside comorbidity, lets look at the people that die. Most people dying from COVID or covid comorbidity were 50 years and older or were infants or had been very ill already. A large number of deaths for vaccines has been in every age group, but particularly teenagers, often related to the heart.
And inb4 "conspsiritard" Here's even mainstream sources talking about problems
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https://historyinfographics.com/twice-vaccinated-form-majority-of-future-covid-19-deaths-in-new-projection/ -
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/old-lyme-teen-shares-story-of-heart-problems-after-2nd-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine/ar-AAKpp9a -
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hospital-blamed-over-womens-death-from-heart-inflammation-after-vaccination/ -
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/dont-exercise-for-48-hours-after-pfizer-jab-because-of-extremely-rare-side-effect/ar-AAMcecr -
https://www.theepochtimes.com/doctors-risk-losing-license-for-opinion-on-covid-vaccination-deemed-misinformation-by-certifying-boards_3995791.html more died in the Clinical Trial Group than the Control Group
Moreover the vaccine is stated by Fauci and the CDC that it does not prevent transmission or illness and only has a 30% reduction rate in terms of impact of the disease, Not high enough a result in my book to inject poorly tested and rushed vaccines made by porky companies.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fauci-vaccines-will-only-prevent-symptoms-not-block-the-virus-195051568.htmlFurthermore there is evidence of these vaccines being unsafe because the FDA has tried to stop the production of these corporations several times but then 'mysteriously' (corporate lobbying bribes) permitted them to continue soon after. Not to mention Pfizer trying to get out of a whistleblowing lawsuit abut the vaccine, stating the government knew of their fraudulent their clinical trials.
https://archive.ph/qr9tj
>inb4 Muh anti-vaxx strawmanI have no problem in their idea, Soviet vaccines are 100% the real thing and did their job properly. But porky vaccines and medicine in general have a long history of intentionally not ironing out side-effects, lying to the public, using vaccinations for social experiments and ignoring or holding back cures and doing nothing after these things are revealed. You should be fundamentally mistrustful of ANYTHING porky supports as an anti-capitalist.
No.1181845
>>1180742>I have no problem in their idea, Soviet vaccines are 100% the real thing and did their job properly. But porky vaccines and medicine in general have a long history of intentionally not ironing out side-effects, lying to the public, using vaccinations for social experiments and ignoring or holding back cures and doing nothing after these things are revealed. You should be fundamentally mistrustful of ANYTHING porky supports as an anti-capitalist.Ok what about Cuba's covid vaccines? Are there reports on their effectiveness?
No.1182773
>>1180666I've got the mp3, where's the best place to upload it?
No.1183810
>>1183547if only plane tickets werent 800 dollars
No.1183840
>>1180742you're linking to the falun gong as evidence?
>Twice Vaccinated Form Majority of Future COVID-19 Deaths in New Projectionan incredibly misleading bit of data analysis, too bad i actually can read stats.Here's what it looks like, to scale.
<- No.1183841
>>1183840every bit of this is questionable in source or just outright bad. sorry, no.
No.1183860
>>1183840Thanks, I admire people who bother analyzing statistics.
No.1183901
>>1180742>Linking Falung gongLmao. Discarded.
No.1184306
Are people here still on the 2020/2021 vaccine narrative arc?
There's been a shift.
Vaccine appreciator here, fwiw.
No.1198260
>>1197388As an antivaxer covid skeptic, I have been saying this the entire time.
There is a lot of evidence that COVID-19 was circulating globally the entire year of 2019. If that's true, it's CONCLUSIVE proof that the pandemic was not an emergency, let alone a justification for lockdown and mandate fascism. How can you explain that the virus was circulating a whole year and nobody even noticed, but when it's declared an emergency, suddenly it's the plague?
No.1198271
>>1198260Then where the fuck was the pile of bodies from "vaping disease" if it was already covid?
No.1198274
>>1198260proof that it came from the USA
No.1198942
>>1198260Excess deaths coincide with the pandemic and haven't returned to the pre-2020 baseline. Why?
https://usmortality.com/deaths/excess-cumulative/united-states No.1198944
>>1198260>There is a lot of evidence that COVID-19 was circulating globally the entire year of 2019like what
No.1198951
>>1198942>Excess deaths coincide with the pandemic and haven't returned to the pre-2020 baseline. Why? The real question is why dad the corporate media stop reporting deaths as soon as the "vaccines" rolled out and now just trying to pretend covid is over?
No.1198961
>>1198951It's almost like the media is manufacturing consent in the populace to accept and normalize the first of many future disasters that will affect the whole world in the coming decades so that they don't notice that maybe all of this is unacceptable and we shouldn't go back to work and pretend like everything is fine 😳
No.1198963
>>1198951well it's not really a question is it, the government wanted everything to go back to normal and the public were bored of COVID stories so it benefitted both to not mention it anymore
No.1199055
>>1198942how do I read this graph?
what the fuck does 1,000,000+ mean?
Seems it's not as significant in this one, but maybe not?
No.1199059
>>1198961>It's almost like the media is manufacturing consent in the populace to accept and normalize the first of many future disasters Or maybe the billionaires who own the media are buddies with the billionaires who own the pharma companies
and the vaccines don't fucking work No.1199132
>>1198260Exponential function.Open up geogebra dumbass.
No.1199243
>>1198951It polls badly. That’s it.
People have forgotten by the government *had* to do “lockdowns” because by the time they did, schools were already emptying and people already didn’t want to go to their jobs.
Covid was really eye opening to me the blowback all these low-quality agitprop campaigns cause. Just because it all started in China, they accidentally terrified themselves.
No.1199247
>>1198260Blame Falun Gong.
No.1200157
was covid an op?
No.1200166
>>1200157we now know 9/11 was, if they're willing to blow up two skyscrapers with controlled demolitions we know they're willing to do a lot of things.
No.1200169
>>1200166>we now know 9/11 wasWe do, how?
non-burger here… No.1200190
>>1200169different burger here, we don't. it's a tinfoil theory schizos have been pushing since it happened and nobody has ever provided conclusive evidence
No.1200192
>>1200157burger here, I'm pretty sure I had it in late 2019. there's already some compelling evidence that Lyme disease was engineered on Plum Island and the US government has done a ton of shady fucked up shit, so I've suspected that covid was an op all along
relevant:
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/04/investigative-series/all-roads-lead-to-dark-winter/ No.1200193
>>1200192https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms1701Lyme wasn’t engineered genius. Even if they did, for what reason? It isn’t deadly nor does it really do anything after a week.
No.1200214
>>1200193I'll have to get back to you after I've read the book Bitten (not really since these posts will be pruned by then)
>>1200208the glowie fears the insurrecto nihilist
No.1200303
>>1200188>>1200190I get the reaction and I wish it weren't so but I'm afraid in this hellworld the schizo truthers turned out to be right. Every single angle of the event, from the hijackers constantly being shielded from mid level fbi agents by higher ups, to the inexplicable military exercises the day off, to the doctored frames of the pentagon security cams, to the analysis of the building destructuion, to the very specific demo cut applied to support structures in the wreckage, everything beneath the surface level story points to an inside job.
>nobody has ever provided conclusive evidencethe analysis of the tower 7 freefall is as conclusive as it gets with no investigative cooperation. The obvious truth is the hijackers would never have pulled off the plan without the cia and the buildings would have never come down without planted explosives.
No.1201053
>>1200303>as conclusive as it gets with no investigative cooperationabsence of evidence is not evidence
this is the same flawed line of thought holocaust deniers use
No.1201638
>>1201337
source: dude trust me
No.1201646
I'm much more willing to believe fentanyl is an op than COVID is, though they both accomplish the same things, killing those that would demand affordable housing
No.1215273
>>1201690It's notable because it almost, by the words of the state, destroyed the greek economy.
Don't be a happening fag soyfacing for the next thing every minute of the day, anon.
No.1219557
Taiwan has 32k-41k new cases in the past 2 days.
China had 0.4k-0.5k new cases in the past 2 days.
Hmmmm.
Germany 136k-172k new cases, leading the world in new COVID cases, and deaths. It's very likely other western governments are not counting properly and have similar numbers to Germany.
>>1219541Interesting.
No.1220444
>>1215268>>1219541I have been saying this since 2019.
No.1220583
>>1215268WTF Max and Aaron? What timeline are we on?
No.1220584
>>1219557Idk if Taiwan is on lockdown but China is.
No.1220586
>>1219557>Germany 136k-172k new cases, leading the world in new COVID cases, and deathsguess which news dont wanna talk about our glorious corvid response anymore
No.1220588
>>1219557Chine knows it's a bioweapon which is why they've enacted completely draconian policies, hence the low and definitely not baked infection numbers
No.1220589
>>1220586in fact I remember, yesterday i saw an article on the frontpage of one of our news site
>I am a German in China and their corvid autocracy brought me back homeNevermind that we tried the same, only without success. In typical German goverment fashion
No.1229170
>>1229023I thought ebola only spread through direct contact with thrle bodily fluid of an infected person, is there a new airborne varient?
No.1229203
>>1229170who knows, but catching it is patsoc and therefore BASED
so i wouldn't worry too much
No.1229215
>>1229205Sorry to hear.
Germbros, you doing alright?
No.1229552
>>1229215Doing just fine. I don't mask as much as I did in 2020, but I still wear one to stores and keep a few in my car.
No.1259485
Damn, the powers that be did it. They managed to convince the population that a vascular disease that can infect nerves and deplete the immune system is just a flu.
No.1259510
>>1259485The covid pandemic made me realize how willfully negligent governments are to other diseases and preventative medicine. Mexico has been raising tobacco taxes, introduced a controversial sugar tax, introduced big warning labels on unhealthy food items, but unfortunately even that is too little.
No.1263151
Any news?
No.1263170
>>1263157 (me)
>yuropoor grannies freezing to death because Anglos blew up the Nordstreams With a probable surge of Covid likely
Good job breaking it you liberal ie. Vooooting in support of gloryfying literal fucking Nazis retards,
Fucking stupid fascist thugs
No.1263316
reminder that if you want to keep up to date on covid related news and research, Naked Capitalism has a whole covid section in their Watercooler daily posts
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/11/200pm-water-cooler-11-11-2022.html No.1264521
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/11/links-11-12-2022.htmlCOVID-19 reinfections substantially increase risk of death and Long COVID
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/11/links-11-12-2022.htmlGetting COVID more than once might be even worse than we thought
>A new study finds increased risk of future hospitalization, organ failure, and even death from repeat COVID-19 infections.https://www.popsci.com/health/repeat-covid-19-infections-death-hospitalization/People’s CDC COVID-19 Weather Report
>The Weather: A slight increase from last week shows that 81.23% of the population is living with substantial or higher transmissionhttps://peoplescdc.org/2022/11/07/peoples-cdc-covid-19-weather-report-21/https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/1590543490706210816>Guys, let me make it very clear
>The average adult gets flu once every 5 years
>Before Omicron, covid was estimated to infect every 16 months
>Covid dysregulates far more than flu, it infects T cells and depletes dendritic cells
>What do you think the cumulative effect will be?https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1590797464902438912?
>⚠️SERIOUS—Babies <6 months have “high #COVID19-associated hospitalization rates”—(but no vaccines avail) according to a damning new @CDCgov
@CDCMMWR
report. ➡️All the smug & arrogant pundits who say kids “low risk” & “practically immune” need to be branded for child endangerment!
No.1264523
>>1264521COVID-19 reinfections substantially increase risk of death and Long COVID
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/11/10/covi-n10.htmlcorrect link
No.1264560
One month ago I got reinfected. It was the second time I had covid. I only have 1 vaccine shot from a year ago. Should I get a second dose?
No.1264603
>>1264560It's better than absolutely nothing, but your best bet is still masking up and isolating as much as possible.
No.1264628
>>1264560Catching covid and surviving is the equivalent of getting vaccinated. Ive had it three times unvaxxed and i can say with certainty that it no longer worries me at all.
No.1265295
>>1264628it's clearly made you retarded
No.1265390
>>1265336
Long covid will be the only long thing you will have.
No.1265773
>>1265336>Good thing it's not a serious disease unless you've got preexisting conditionsI always wonder whether or not people who contend this point realize that this represents more than half of the entire adult population in the U.S. In other words, the
majority of people.
<Other estimates put the number of non-elderly adults with pre-existing conditions as high as 102 million, 122 million, or 133 million. In addition to declinable conditions, these estimates took into account conditions that would not necessarily get a person denied when applying for individual health insurance then, but that could trigger other adverse actions. Hypertension (high blood pressure) is an example of one such common pre-existing condition affecting more than 33 million adults under 65. A KFF study of medical underwriting practices asked individual market insurers to consider a hypothetical applicant with high blood pressure who also smoked and was overweight. In 60 applications for coverage, this person was rejected 33 times (55%); offered a policy with surcharged premiums 25 times (42%), and offered coverage with no restrictions or premium surcharges twice (3%).https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/pre-existing-conditions-what-are-they-and-how-many-people-have-them/Note that these are the figures for the
non-elderly. The elderly population basically all have preexisting conditions (something like 85-90%). The other assessments in which the above refers:
https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdfhttps://www.gao.gov/assets/590/589618.pdfhttps://avalere.com/press-releases/repeal-of-acas-pre-existing-condition-protections-could-affect-health-security-of-over-100-million-people No.1272360
>>1264560Is this for a two dose vaccine?
You got only one needle which is unusual, people usually either go both or none. I am not sure maybe you need to do both again since a year is passed? Ask your doctor how many you should get.
No.1274451
>>1264560My physician told me he's been generally advising patients who were due for a booster and had recently been infected with covid, to wait 6 months after initial infection before doing so. Mostly because that is when 'natural' immunity begins to wane i guess.
I think Israels ministry of health has published research that suggests a continuous saturation of antibodies can weaken future immune response (i think this was partly why the gap of time waiting between first 2 shots was increased.
fwiw he also told me he only got the first 2 Pfizer shots and hasn't gotten a booster, which ultimately is also where I'm at. After getting the 2nd shot, I got really swollen lymph nodes, booming headache, hard to swallow, etc. Turns out I had an active case of infectious mononucleosis (caused by the Epstein-Barr virus).
I've been tested for covid each time I've been sick over 3 years and have never tested positive, so while reactivation of dormant EBV is something known to be caused by covid-19 infection, im guessing due to my immune response to the vaccine and the stress preoccupying T-cells/low cd8 count, caused EBV reactivation. Covid vaccines causing EBV reactivation has also been documented, but only recently has research really begun in this area.
It's a bit frightening because my recent liber function tests are showing elevated enzyme levels indicative of liver injury or hepatitis.
Not that I should have to say this; but I'm not an antivaxxer & am not telling you to avoid getting it. After all, your prior infections with covid would've been the most likely trigger of a similar event, so you probably should consider getting it in 5 months or whatever.
No.1274466
that the AmeriKKKans and their satraps would just quite blatantly sabotage NS makes the U.S. bioweapon theory more likely, and in the Korean War the West did attack with germ bioweapons against the Communists
relatively older, detailed articles
https://americanbioweapon.substack.com No.1274472
>>1263316>>1264523>It's only a SocDem blog and one Trot org left keeping track of and caring about about Covid stillHoly shit this is actually really depressing. When a disease sweeps through with a greater than 1% mortality rate everyone is fucked especially when you remember that labor shortages in healthcare have skyrocketed.
No.1277030
>>1275717
Millions died.
No.1277034
the reason rightoids denied that covid was dangerous and that masks were necessary was because they are bankrolled by the medical industry which didnt want to admit that private healthcare doesnt work in the event of global pandemics. the reasons liberals were so insane about wearing masks and getting vaxxed is because they were bankrolled by pfizer, moderna etc which wanted to sell vaccines. leftists dont fall for this dichotomy
No.1277037
>>1277034that isn't it at all
people were just skeptical that there was so much of a push to get everyone vaccinated by the bourgeois state despite a relatively low death rate..
No.1277039
>>1277034pretty much this. which is why I never got the vaccine
No.1277040
>>1277030>>1277037excess death was massive, what are you talking about lol. regardless covid is practically a non-issue if you're able-bodied and vaccinated. seriously, it's weaker than a cold and the incidence of "long covid" is paltry if you're immunized.
No.1277041
>>1277037ive had covid thrice and a weaker person wouldve died from that, but due to my immunological superiority i have survived and become stronger as a result.
No.1277043
>>1277040>excess death was massivenot really when you factor in how many deaths were labled "covid deaths" like people killed in car accidents
>regardless covid is practically a non-issue if you're able-bodied and vaccinatedits a non issue if you're able bodied, vaccines only really help the elderly and people with other health issues.
No.1277044
>>1277041sounds like you have a weak immune system
No.1277045
>>1277044I have a weak immune but I only got covid once
No.1277046
>>1277045i have a good immune system
never got covid
No.1277047
>>1277043>not really when you factor in how many deaths were labled "covid deaths" like people killed in car accidents this is nonsense, if people died because of lack of hospital infrastructure even though they didn't die strictly of covid, then it was by all means a crisis that arouse from covid.
No.1277049
>>1277047>this is nonsense, if people died because of lack of hospital infrastructure even though they didn't die strictly of covid, then it was by all means a crisis that arouse from covid.no, people dying of things unrelated to covid still being counted as a covid death just shows how inflated the numbers are
No.1277052
>>1277050glad to see you are trusting in reliable sources like schizoposts
No.1277063
>>1277049i mean, it depends if you're assessing this from how much of a personal risk it represents to you individually, in which case yes they're disregardable, vs the social costs of covid which shouldn't be easily dismissable as "number padding" if you're any sort of socialist, or even slant progressive.
No.1277073
>>1277070
what was so bad about the masks and vaccines anon? really?
No.1277077
>>1277070
no it wasn''t fucking schizo dumbass
No.1277094
>>1277089
Cry about a piece of cloth more
No.1277097
>>1277089
you're the only deranged lunatic here
No.1277102
>>1277101
your schizophrenia is acting up
No.1277141
>>1277089
>Vaccines make people into skitzo dumbasses, therefore we should not administer vaccines
Assbackwards
No.1278326
>>1278324>newstarget>Doug Billings shares message of HOPE and INSPIRATION for taking America back from the commusocialistsyeah sounds legit
No.1283383
>death rate between 2% and 17% for people over 50
>20% of infected never fully recover, many permanently incapacitated.
>hospitalizations so common that hospitals run out of beds.
Just a mild flu, bro.
No.1283437
>>1278324The 6% metric isn't even in the article.
No.1283438
>>1277052They're being sarcastic.
No.1286383
The excesses of zero Covid has some benefits for science. For the second (and soon to be last) time, we have studies of spread of Covid-19 that can effectively timeline infection and control for sources of infection.
https://covid.dropcite.com/articles/0bda88cc-8aaf-4de6-94f2-4bd23ee5c036Basically, a guy jogs through a park and infects 33 people. Low wind speed, high temperature, moderate humidity. People who came within 1-meter of him or are thought to are much more likely to be infected but even some who were simply in the same area or visited the same places got sick.
His original infection route is not the objective of the paper but remarkably too it’s thought he got it from *fomites* because he shared non-disinfected airline seats with patients who had identical nucleotide mutations in their strain. This is more speculative though and the paper doesn’t exactly connect the dots.
The more important thing is that it concussively proves that Covid-19 can be spread outdoors which I believe has been known but kind of denied. It’s been long enough we can admit this truth though, right? Now that nobody cares? The authors speculate high exertion of him and others increased infections. Basically breathing hard as fuck on everything means more virus in the air.
If you think “oh maybe they got sick somewhere else,” you can read the paper and you’ll get some insight too about why people have started to fatigue if ZC in China.
No.1286388
covid deniers feel like contrarians who aren't even contradicting anything anymore. It's probably a reason why long-covid has been picked up by the more underground schizo-gang.
No.1286516
>>1278324>>1278326The virus is less likely to spread in less densely populated areas and coof particles on surfaces become inactive quicker when it is warm, so wouldn't you expect this?
No.1287715
In retrospect, one of the biggest lies of Covid, which is still repeatedly constantly, is "herd immunity". A fundamentally misunderstood concept that was entirely fictionally.
No.1287734
>>1287720Nobody talks about it because the media simply stopped reporting on covid because it became too politically contentious. Herd immunity doesn't exist for the novel coronavirus. The most vulnerable members of the population died from Covid, and Covid continues to circulate aggressively and widely within populations, infecting and killing people at a normal rate. Neither natural immunity nor vaccination were able to establish the supposed "herd immunity threshold" and stymie the circulation of covid, let alone provide actual immunity to vulnerable, unvaccinated or unexposed members of the community. This is because, fundamentally, Covid re-infects and infects vaccinated people, and is contagious in those population.
The concept was grossly misappropriated and wrongly explained to populations to promote at different times goals of opening and vaccination quotas. What you see is normal circulation of a highly contagious respiratory virus.
No.1287744
I am the biggest covid skeptic, please suck my dick for being the biggest board schizo
No.1287749
>>1287720>Nobody even thinks about Covid anymore where I live. Nobody wears a maskSame here, and guess what, I just got covid for the first time lol. Shit sucks, I hope my ability to smell and taste comes back.
No.1287751
>>1287749I caught it maybe half a year ago but nothing really bad happened. Was just a mild cold for a day or two.
No.1287809
>>1287751I caught it and was sick for a week with painful coof and what I later learned was "brain fog" for about a month. Fortunately I was informed that this was psychosomatic brain fog! What a relief. I didn't actually get as sick as I felt because if I had (and I didn't) that would give credence to the mask mandate people.
No.1291924
Zero COVID is fucking dead thank Jesus, even the Chinese think it's retarded
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