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 No.213976[Last 50 Posts]

Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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 No.214467

>>894
Massive wave of covid currently hitting India and utterly destroying the health system every single person with the exception of the government firmly believes that the official numbers being are being underestimated purposely or mistakenly from anywhere from a factor of 5-20.

Basically shits fucked and modi(current far right pm of India) and his goons are most likely to blame.
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 No.214468

>>724
>practically untested mRNA technology
That technology is what makes it effective against different strains, tardo.
The "old tech" you seem to favor only guards against the weakened strains used to create the vaccine and isn't effective against new mutations.

It's breathtaking to see people still falling for chinese shilling when it's clear to see that everyone except China, the country that unleashed this situation, is in massive turmoil.
inb4 countries should buy the chinese vaccine because it's just better due to being powered by the magic of communism.
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 No.214469

>>896
It may very well be effective and sound technology, but we simply don't have the data to back that assertion up yet because no mRNA vaccine has been tested for long enough to pass the third phase of clinical trials. It's irresponsible to use a pandemic as testing ground for new medicine.
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 No.214470

>>897
more specifically, they all failed in animal trials on account of antibody dependent enhancement. good thing operation warp speed let them skip directly to human trials…
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 No.214471

>>896
Chinese and russian vaccines are an old tried technology that works for all viruses. They are as safe as getting all those vaccination shots in childhood
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 No.214472

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +370,059

Deaths Today: +3,422
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 No.214473

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though
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 No.214474

>>897
b-but the economy!!
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 No.214475

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>>896
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 No.215465

covid is fake bump
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 No.215991

>>214471
not true, the russian vaccine is adenovirus vector like astra zeneca and j&j. you're right about china tho
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 No.216211

File: 1620036272744.png (59.25 KB, 247x329, unabomber sketch.png)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1340352/coronavirus-vaccine-covid19-self-spreading-vaccine

>The concept involves re-engineering a "benign virus" by adding genetic material from the coronavirus pathogen and infecting large quantities of reservoir populations.


>To get a genetically engineered virus to "self-spread" scientists must first directly inoculate a small population intravenously.


>The small population will then go on to spread the virus aerobically.


>But, the process of manufacturing a virus to spread a vaccine that protects human health could easily be distorted to develop one that creates a lethal human virus that spreads rapidly around the globe.


>Historically this weaponising of the "self-spreading" vaccine technique has already been considered and possibly developed.


>South African scientists developed an anti-fertility vaccine to target certain populations during the apartheid era.


>The sinister research was codenamed Project Coast.


>South Africa’s post-apartheid Truth and Reconciliation Commission was informed by the scientists behind the research the project was in line with the World Health Organization’s attempts to control the global population boom.
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 No.216229

marx: "you have nothing to lose but your chains"

lockdown left: "um akshully those are safety fetters they keep you from wandering into the path of a virus and are a sign of solidarity we oppose the efforts of the ruling class to take them away from you"
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 No.216232

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 No.216863

>>216229
I fail to see how Marx's chains, ie a lack of fear and confidence in the cause is equivalent to flagrant idiocy in the face of a physical virus : risk taking for the proletariat is not the same as risk taking against a physical infectious disease.

It would not have been bad at all to see Americans welded into quarantine a la Wuhan.
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 No.216895

>>216863
Because there's no virus; it's rebranded flu.
>It would not have been bad at all to see Americans welded into quarantine a la Wuhan.
It'd be better to see the Chinese Dengists enforcing the WEF's plans hanged from the trees.
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 No.216899

>>216895
>Because there's no virus; it's rebranded flu
How do you know?
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 No.216902

>>216899
They read it on Facebook duh
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 No.216912

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 No.216915

>>216912
>rightoid bourgeois newspapers
Get better sources
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 No.216919

>>216912
>dailymail
Get serious or don't bother. Is a flu capable of completely annihilating your lungs? I don't thinks so.
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 No.216926

>>216919
Technically COVID-19 is a flu, as it bears similarities to the 1918 Spanish Flu. Just because it’s “just a flu” doesn’t mean that retards who sperg about COVID being fake are correct though.

The Spanish Flu was “just a flu” too so clearly it wasn’t actually that bad, right??????
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 No.216928

>>216926
You're right, BUT this isn't what all those spergs mean when they say "just a flu". They literally mean we should treat it the exact same as the flu.
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 No.216931

>>216928
TBH we treat normal influenza pretty seriously too but a lot of retards wanna treat COVID like the common cold.
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 No.216940

>>216229
anti-lockdown left: akshually porky keeps you alive with your job so pls go back to work for him, the job creators and maintainers miss you guys :(((
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 No.216941

>>216919
Plenty of people have long after effects from it. And it's being pumped on ventilators that kill and maim people.
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 No.216944

>>216941
>ventilators kill people
Ima need a non-retarded source for that claim
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 No.216946

>>216941
>Plenty of people have long after effects from it
I need some data on that. Show that the worst cases of the flu come close to the effects of the worst cases of covid
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 No.216947

>>216915
Supporting billionaire lockdowns, mass unemployment, wage cuts, police tyranny and a blockchain digital ID slave system isn't "leftist" except on this thick skulled site.
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 No.216952

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Yo Lenin Hat, there you are, I've been meaning to ask you something

From what I remember, you're under the impression that Scottish and/or Welsh separatism is fascism and that the SNP is a fascist party. Care to explain the reasoning behind this? Legitimately curious.
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 No.216956

>>216946
The "worst cases of covid" are bourgeois fabrications, like the edited videos of people dropping dead on streets in China, or Syrian barrel bombs.

You've all been mind-raped by the bourg lol. Scared creatures who will be cheering on the digital slave camp system.

People support lockdowns because they materially benefit from it. They are the labour aristocrats, and they must be crushed.
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 No.216963

>>216956
Actual schizo
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 No.216973

>>216956
I know someone who got it and now he is in E.R. Is he a bourgeois spy also?
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 No.216976

>>216952
It's not necessarily fascist, just bourgeois and a form of petit-bourgeois false consciousness, usually coupled with a love of the EU and/or NATO. There has been a fascist component to Welsh and Scottish nationalism in the past.
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 No.216990

>>216973
Yes COVID-19 is not real and any so-called cases of this disease are actually the result of alien mind-rays. The bougs cover this up because they don’t want us to know the TRUTH and team up with the aliens to destroy them.
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 No.216997

>>216990
Oh fuck my bad. I will visit him and tell him that he should stop being such an actor. Fucking diva he is
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 No.217004

i'm not memeing but alex jones said frogs were gay and everybody laughed
and now he's saying shit about the mrna vaccines

is alex jones a broken clock right once type person or idiot who's always eventually right

do you think there'll be some long term effect of the vaccine we'll find out later?
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 No.217007

>>216976
But wouldn't dismantling the Anglo empire be a good thing?
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 No.217013

>>216973
And I know people who've tested positive for "COVID-19" and have just said it's like a cold. 500000 people die from flu every year.
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 No.217014

>>217007
The British Empire was the most proletarian state to ever exist anyone who wishes to dismantle it is a PMC Labor aristocrat class cuck too obsessed with idpol to get anything done. “Decolonization” is anti-Marxist and a CIA psy-op that plays into the hands of the billionaire lizard people who control the Illuminati and thus the world.
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 No.217020

>>217013
I’ve had Covid it’s not like the common cold at all keep coping schizo
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 No.217021

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>>217014
He's right. wtf i'm anglo gang now?
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 No.217023

>>217007
The British Empire is separate to Great Britain itself.
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 No.217026

>>217020
Sounds like you need to take some Vitamin D tablets.
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 No.217027

>>217004
mRNA vaccines are genetic modification, and the capitalists intend to make them mandatory, regularly scheduled events.
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 No.217029

>>217013
>500k deaths from influenza a year
And COVID-19 has killed 3 Million
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fact-check-flu-deaths-vs-covid-19-deaths/ar-BB19oTqo
More than the common cold too
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 No.217036

>>217029
Only if you accept the fake inflated numbers and dodgy testing regimes. The real numbers are much lower.
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 No.217037

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>>217020
I never actually got covid, but, I go my vaccinations and my second vaccination made me feel fucking crazy shit. Pain all over my body and a slight fever, so, I can't imagine what actually having it is like.
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 No.217044

>>217037
The vaccine is like 1-2 days of agony. Covid itself is 1-2 weeks of greater agony. If you’re not constantly on multiple painkillers you can’t really do much of anything.
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 No.217048

>>217036
>fake numbers
Do you have a source that isn’t rightoid shit?
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 No.217055

>>217044
Yeah I wish my co-workers were less retarded but they will believe anything they are told because burgers are black holes of stupidity.
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 No.217057

>>217004
The mRNA vaccines make tons of spike proteins don't they?

https://scitechdaily.com/covid-19-is-a-vascular-disease-coronavirus-spike-protein-attacks-vascular-system-on-a-cellular-level/

https://scitechdaily.com/sars-cov-2-spike-protein-alone-may-cause-covid-19-lung-damage-even-without-the-presence-of-intact-virus/

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210503/SARS-CoV-2e28099s-distinctive-spike-protein-plays-a-key-role-in-the-disease-itself-shows-study.aspx

Saw this news on Google news this reminded me of that went back to look for it and it wouldn't show when I searched for spike proteins so I had to go digging

Look I know some of you bourgeois liberal dipshits with influence lurk here and read this shit so can you just take the L and loss of face and let us use the less experimental Chinese and Russian vaccines already
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 No.217058

>>217036
How are the numbers inflated? You can't just make a claim like that and leave it hanging faggot.
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 No.217070

>>217048
They count anyone who dies with it as a death. And there's no oversight. Medical staff can just put any death cause down. I know an old man who died of cancer last year and he had COVID-19 on his death certificate.
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 No.217083

>>217070
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/24/pand-a24.html
Yeah dude this is TOTALLY just a normal flu season. Totally not hundreds of thousands of deaths above the typical that conveniently lines up with a global pandemic that kills a bunch of people.
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 No.217088

>getting a rushed vaccine with no long term testing

honestly I'd risk getting covid
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 No.217091

>>217070
>They count anyone who dies as a death.
A truly stunning observation.

People who die from complications caused by covid-19 can and should be marked as a death of covid-19 you incomprehensibly stupid faggot. I don't get this argument my mom died from COPD. Now, the COPD caused here to be un able to breath eventually requiring a trake, but, you don't here people making the argument that "she didn't die from COPD" Her cause of death is literally COPD related complications.

>I know an old man who died of cancer last year and he had COVID-19 on his death certificate.


Discared for being a dumb ass personal appeal.
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 No.217097

>>217044
>Covid itself is 1-2 weeks of greater agony
this is only if you're unhealthy to begin with
I got covid and it was more tame then the flu most years
not getting vaxxed either
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 No.217101

>>217088
Up to you, anon. I wonder if it's possible to get one of the chinese or russian vaccines that people like to shill here.
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 No.217106


>>217091
>eople who die from complications caused by covid-19 can and should be marked as a death of covid-19

yeah if you get hit by a car while you have cancer thats totally a cancer death

>my mom died from COPD. Now, the COPD caused here to be un able to breath eventually requiring a trake, but, you don't here people making the argument that "she didn't die from COPD" Her cause of death is literally COPD related complications.

Discared for being a dumb ass personal appeal.
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 No.217109

Just wait for the 2.0 version that covers all the variants and doesn't have a chance of killing you outright
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 No.217115

>>217083
There's hundreds of thousands of deaths due to unemployment, poverty, removal of healthcare, isolation, suicide, vaccines causing adverse affects/death and deliberately negligent and malicious treatment of the sick via ventilators, drugs and euthanasia.

>>217091
There's no real difference between "COVID-19" and influenza in terms of symptoms. For the vast majority of people, there is no real risk. If you want to cower forever on the orders of the billionaires that's up to you, but communists such as myself prefer to live life.

>Discared for being a dumb ass personal appeal.

But the "my friend had it bad" isn't?
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 No.217116

>>217097
Healthy people can die from covid. The unhealthy are a lot more likely to be hospitalized or killed (and the elderly and whatnot), but healthy people can still get fucked too.

Took my mom months to be able to smell properly again and she works out every day.
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 No.217148

>>217116
>Healthy people can die from covid
health people can die for most things
I never said it was impossible

>The unhealthy are a lot more likely to be hospitalized or killed (and the elderly and whatnot), but healthy people can still get fucked too.

again not impossible just highly improbable

>Took my mom months to be able to smell properly again and she works out every day.

doubtful that a boomer american woman is healthy
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 No.217164

>>217106
>
yeah if you get hit by a car while you have cancer thats totally a cancer death

Not what I said

>Discared for being a dumb ass personal appeal.


Not the same thing learn how to actually use logic.
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 No.217177

>>217164
>Not the same thing learn how to actually use logic.

<its FACTS and LOGIC when I do it
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 No.217183

>>217152
honestly india might have less of a food problem when this is over
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 No.217185


>There's no real difference between "COVID-19" and influenza in terms of symptoms. For the vast majority of people, there is no real risk. If you want to cower forever on the orders of the billionaires that's up to you, but communists such as myself prefer to live life.


Stop changing the goal post. Why are you such a liar leninhat? Basically your argument now boils down to >Only think bout yourself and no one else. It's not like there are groups of people that are more susceptible to covid. The only one cowaring at anything here is you cowaring at the notion that the economy can't stop fucking moving for once second. This is just retard porky logic dressed up behind a lenin hat.
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 No.217188

>>217183
Well the bourgeoisie are using this whole pandmeic as a pretext to mass murder people and drive down the populatino so probably.
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 No.217207

>>217185
I'm saying to think of others. Man is a social animal and cannot live alone. The groups who are more susceptible are the ones who are ALWAYS more susceptible to illness, it's nothing new. And if an economy stops, who suffers? The billionaire? No, the worker who lives hand to mouth with no savings. A third of people in Britain have no savings, 40% in America, and these are the two most imperialist nations. It's a hundred times worse in eastern Europe, India, latin America. Billionaires will gladly drive down prices so their rivals go to the wall in a normal crisis, which is also what has happened over the past year. The billionaires have made literally trillions of dollars via plundering workers and gobbling up small businesses. It's not a conspiracy, it is capitalism in action. Lockdown is there to stop workers fighting back.
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 No.217273

corona isn't that deadly if you're not unhealthy(fat) or old
so I'm not getting the vaccine
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 No.217462

I'm not getting the vax myself but I'm relentlessly shilling it to everybody I can so we can reach herd immunity asap without needed to get a shot.

My country mainly uses sinovac btw.
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 No.217474

>>217462
>My country mainly uses sinovac btw.
Lucky bastard you probably don't even need to be so cautious about the jab
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 No.217661

>>217207
>And if an economy stops, who suffers? The billionaire? No, the worker who lives hand to mouth with no savings.
>General strikes don't work!
Heard it here first, folks. Organized labour struggles ain't shit.
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 No.217695

>>217207
Defeating COVID quickly and protecting the greatest amount of citizens and workers requires mass mobilization of the nation like what the PRC did. Lockdowns would be a major part of any anti-virus strategy. The Western lockdowns were mostly failures precisely because of the obsession with keeping the economy open as much as possible during the said lockdowns. Your argument smacks of capitalist realism and refuses to face up to the reality of the inherent inability of finance capital to protect the nations it has taken over and subsumed into itself.
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 No.217848

2nd dose thursday m8s. side effects seem like a total crapshoot. one of my friends felt fine and the other was destroyed
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 No.217859

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>>217848
Considering you can literally die from side-effects, what do you mean "destroyed"?
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 No.217886

>>217859
Like just as though they have a real bad flu for a day.
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 No.217889

>>217207
>And if an economy stops, who suffers? The billionaire? No, the worker who lives hand to mouth with no savings.
cuck mentality.

As I told you before, workers don't want to die and will resist going to work even if it means they might lose their jobs. It's only in cuckistan that they protest for their right to risk dying because they have no worker protections and are inundated by propaganda. Judging by your retarded comments, the propaganda is working just fine.
>>217273
I hope you know this is bullshit, and not only that, it has high incidence of causing permanent damage. I know young people who have to go to the hospital because their heart inflamed. A ~23 year old (healthy) guy I knew died of covid.
>>217474
I'm getting the Johnson Johnson :/ it's basically the only one I can get my hands on until a few months down the road. How fucked am I?
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 No.217900

Since sinovac is a traditional vaccine it's probably my best bet, right?
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 No.217912

>>217900
There's really nothing dangerous about the mRNA vaccines man. the tech has been used for over a decade now, just this specific application is new. But if it's between sinovac and like J&J or astra, yeah why not.
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 No.217954

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>>217889
>I hope you know this is bullshit
CDC disagrees
>it has high incidence of causing permanent damage
and so does the vaccine

>I know young people who have to go to the hospital because their heart inflamed. A ~23 year old (healthy) guy I knew died of covid.

doubtful this is even true
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 No.217957

>>217889
>I'm getting the Johnson Johnson
it comes with free blood clots
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 No.217959

>>217954
Look up how many people under 30 have died?
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 No.217968

>>217959
>Look up how many people under 30 have died?
now remove people who are unhealthy, fat, history of drug use, minorities, over weight, women, and you get a number that is completely a waste of time for me to even worry about
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 No.217980

>>217954
The cdc also downplays aerosol transmission and is pushing shit like the 3 feet rule.
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 No.217993

>>217889
>It's only in cuckistan that they protest for their right to risk dying because they have no worker protections and are inundated by propaganda.
And they were a small minority supported by betsy devos.

Anti-lockdown fools are cucks going against 80-90 prevent of the population.
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 No.217998

>>217954
>CDC disagrees
Low incidence in a high population means a high probability of there being cases of it.
>and so does the vaccine
Not as much as the actual sickness.
>doubtful this is even true
ok. I live in a large city. The medical authorities explicitly say on the radio when young people die without comorbidities. Basically every day a healthy <30 year old dies.
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 No.218002

>>217968
>remove most Americans and the numbers aren't that bad, guys!!!
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 No.218039

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>>217998
>Low incidence in a high population means a high probability of there being cases of it.
considering im not fat I'm not too worried

>Not as much as the actual sickness.

never even argued this, this point counters nothing

>ok. I live in a large city. The medical authorities explicitly say on the radio when young people die without comorbidities. Basically every day a healthy <30 year old dies.

doubtful even if that were the case the number is so insignificant its not worth thinking about
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 No.218043

>>218039
>March 2020
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 No.218044

>>218002
From a health standpoint I have nothing related to most Americans
so yes.
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 No.218055

>>217661
Strikes are literally just class collaboration in action, begging for concessions while the strike and union leaders laugh with the bourgeoisie over how they’ve duped the workers. There’s a reason why socialist countries ban this shit
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 No.218059

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Stinking Hindutva Streetshitters
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 No.218060

>>218043
yes when corona virus what at its worse
prove my point even more i dare you
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 No.218065

>>218055
but unions have always led socialist revolutions
you aren't for union busts??pol??
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 No.218069

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>Strikes are literally just class collaboration in action, begging for concessions while the strike and union leaders laugh with the bourgeoisie over how they’ve duped the workers. There’s a reason why socialist countries ban this shit
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 No.218074

>>218065
Unions have been a predecessor to fascism every time. The Soviet revolution was led by a vanguard, not unions
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 No.218076

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>>218069
>le epic maymay text
>opposition destroyed
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 No.218078

>>218074
>anti union
>supports UNION of soviet socialist republics
smh pol
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 No.218105

>>218074
Shut the fuck up, know-nothing retard.
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 No.218199

>>218078
>>218105
Stay mad radlibs
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 No.218210

>>218199
Another term that became meaningless thanks to overuse.
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 No.218244

>>218210
That's why they've started to graduate to "neolib".
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 No.218260

>>218210
Not my fault you’re easy to spot
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 No.218782

>>217013
and I know healthy people who have tested positive for covid and are now crippled 6 months after.

What gives, leninhat?
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 No.218946

>>218059
哔哩哔哩link?
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 No.219035

File: 1620088741560.png (22.26 KB, 1008x84, Screen Shot 2021-05-03 at ….png)

INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +355,828

Deaths Today: +3,438
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 No.219106

>>218782
>and I know healthy people who have tested positive for covid and are now crippled 6 months after.

source?
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 No.219111

>>218782
Im 21 and had it worse than my 50 year old mother. I have asthma almost 4 months after i caught it back in january.
The reason it sucked worse for me was probably cytokine storm causing my healthy immune system to go haywire, perhaps causing inflammation or tissue damage from crossfire from the immune system attempting to attack all infected cells or viruses.
Also, i took medication later in my infection than they did because i had it first.
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 No.219332

>>219106
Literally being called Long Covid. People's lives are being ruined from getting it.
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 No.219410

>>217109
Vaccine PRO
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 No.219431

I want to go out without causing my sick loved ones dying, so I support forceful vaccinations.

People need to be rounded up, muzzled and vaccinated if they don't comply. I don't give a shit about your illusion of freedoms you have while living in a "work or starve" world.

And most importantly the new surveillance state and forceful vaccinations will only lead to accelerationism and aid in the breakdown and antagonism against capitalism even more.

I want to fight the police cyberdogs.

It's a W in every way for me and that's what only matters.
I don't give a shit about anybody else and their bitch ass concerns, I want out by any means necessary even if it at the cost of other people's """"""freedoms"""""""
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 No.219494

>>219431
>tfw live in "dictatorship"
<Still can't get vaccinated because stateless
also lol @ China not doing forced vaccinations
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 No.219569

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>>219431
>I want to go out without causing my sick loved ones dying
<YOU'RE KILLING GRANDMA!
holy shit this stupid liberal talking point needs to die

>so I support forceful vaccinations.

>people need to be rounded up, muzzled and vaccinated if they don't comply. I don't give a shit about your illusion of freedoms you have while living in a "work or starve" world.
>And most importantly the new surveillance state and forceful vaccinations will only lead to accelerationism and aid in the breakdown and antagonism against capitalism even more.
>i don't give a shit about anybody else and their bitch ass concerns, I want out by any means necessary even if it at the cost of other people's """"""freedoms"""""""
funny how the bourgeois can convince "leftists" into supporting fascism
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 No.219594

>>219431
Read Agamben's State of Exception
Read Agamben's State of Exception
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 No.219616

>>219569
It's as if the poster isn't a leftist, but a pathetic extrovert who can't handle some lockdown.
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 No.219644

>Use new experimental vaccination to make the body's cells shit out loads of the spike protein
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/what-is-the-d614g-mutation-in-coronavirus/article32992120.ece
<New even worse spike protein appears
Who could have predicted this?
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 No.219650

>>219569
>>219494
>>219594
Don't care.
I will stab you and everybody else with vaccines.
>Fascism is when you force people to get medicine and the more medicine you give people the more fascist it is.

>>219616
I have and can continue to stay inside longer than you, jimmy.
Cope.
>leftist
Yeah I'm not a leftist. I'm a communist.

The ruling class already has the power and means to control us, so I'd prefer if they would use that evil for good for once and immunize us against the virus, so we can fight them back.
I have no interesting in delaying the future surveillance state that already awaits us. Rip the band-aid off quick.

Covid is the worst thing that has happened to the working class worldwide in this century.

The rich have made so much money because of these lockdowns that it's in their benefit to keep these quarantines going. So unless you nancies have some secret militia that's ready to overthrow the state to end quarantines, Boycotting vaccines is the most bitchass faggy way to "revolt" against the authority of the state.
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 No.219952

>More than 100 posts in the last few days
<No new variant

What are we precisely talking about?
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 No.220784

>>217207
>I'm saying to think of others.
>gobbling up small businesses
is this honky serious? >>217695 is spot on saying this is capitalist realism. you hear the same shit from reformists.

i can get behind skepticism, i don't trust drug makers, i don't trust gov, i don't trust porky, and i think the alarmism libs layer on top of the facts is salient and horrendous for both science and long-term trust in public health and medical professionals.
but my question for the skeptics and conspiracy folks, if we had an honest-to-god communist/anarchist society, what do you think the appropriate response would be to an honest-to-god pandemic? i asked this in this thread several times last year and never got an answer. if you're just railing against capitalist half-measures and porky taking advantage of a crisis like porky always does, fine i get it, i think you're being overly contrarian to stroke your own ego, but i get it (and i think others in here can be alarmist because this is an imageboard and we love happenings; i'm chomping at the bit for dow general to kick off again). Or, are you really against any organized and concerted effort to control/stop spread and do you think proles dying is just the natural course of things? this is an important question for me because a lot of you guys are claiming to be commies and such but your arguments come off as sloppy anti-authoritarianism, like you just don't want people to tell you what to do and if that gets others killed it's not your problem. in before stirner fags.

>>218244
>graduate
but 'neolib' fell out of fashion during the occupy-era, what lame-os
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 No.221008

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~20 people to be murdered by Astrazeneca in North Korea

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/north-korea-begin-covid-19-vaccinations

>North Korea will receive nearly two-million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine through the World Health Organization’s COVAX program. Despite the country’s limited resources, some medical professionals are confident that the North’s doctors can successfully carry-out a vaccination campaign.
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 No.221038

>>217661
Strikes determined by the working class are not the same thing as lockdowns created and enforced by the capitalists. Good luck trying to strike with mass unemployment and a digital slave camp system called vaccine passes.
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 No.221040

>>221008
Pathetic.
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 No.221043

>>217462
If you know it's harmful, you have a duty to try to at least dissuade people from getting it. Everyone I know has had a harmful reaction to it.
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 No.221061

>>219952
India eating shit due to covid mostly
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 No.221082

>>221043
>Everyone I know has had a harmful reaction to it.
interesting, everyone i know has not
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 No.221214

>>221082
I don't believe you.
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 No.221223

>>217889
>As I told you before, workers don't want to die and will resist going to work even if it means they might lose their jobs. It's only in cuckistan that they protest for their right to risk dying because they have no worker protections and are inundated by propaganda
Workers have to sell our labour to live. I'd rather take the risk than be locked up and muzzled like an animal.

And it's the case for most workers. If there's no action being taken, it's because there is no vanguard.
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 No.221225

>>221214
congrats, i don't believe you
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 No.221230

At this point there's no reasoning with the lockdown left. They think the capitalists care about their health and scream for even more lockdowns, more masks. They're nazis.
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 No.221242

>>221230
Aight shitfuck.
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 No.221247

>>221230
i'll ask again, would you be this contrarian if we were in a genuine communist society and had a pandemic?
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 No.221257

>>221247
We wouldn't have forced lockdowns, forced vaccinations, forced masks, forced digital ID systems shoved through, forced unemployment, forced medicofascism, forced isolation and forced screen learning for kids. So no? At least if I or communists like me were in charge.
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 No.221269

>>221257
so if we had a pandemic that would lead to unnecessary deaths, you'd be okay with doing nothing? or do you have a more nuanced position? if this were any communist society that ever existed, doing nothing wouldn't fly.
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 No.221321

>>221257
>We wouldn't have forced lockdowns, forced vaccinations, forced masks, forced digital ID systems shoved through, forced unemployment, forced medicofascism, forced isolation and forced screen learning for kids.
why not if all those things would help stop a pandemic and prevent people from dying?
>So no? At least if I or communists like me were in charge.
also this is pretty telling about where you're coming from politically
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 No.221340

>>221269
I'd give people vitamin D tablets in winter and tell them to carry on as normal. Because there's no pandemic ultimately. And life under lockdown is not worth living.
Just stop listening to what capitalists tell you all the time ffs.
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 No.221348

>>221321
>why not if all those things would help stop a pandemic and prevent people from dying?
Because they're fascist policies enforced by the bourgeoisie design to oppress us. If a "communist" society ever tried to enforce these measures, it would not be communist or socialist but capitalist. Like China is. And like Cuba is, sorry.
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 No.221357

>>221348
>fascism and capitalism is when you try to maintain public health
Alright, get the fuck out.
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 No.221361

>>221340
are you saying that pandemics never happen and have never happened? my question asked a hypothetical scenario where there actually was a pandemic, it's killing people, what should the government do or what actions should local communities take? vitamin D does not stop pandemics. it is not a miracle cure.
or are you purposely trying to dodge the question?
>>221348
again, address the scenario i posted instead of changing it. also, define capitalism for me dude.
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 No.221364

>>221357
Public health? Is that what you call Pfizer shoving poisons into people for profit?
Beware the new imperialists lurking behind the masks of healthcare and environmentalism.

The only conclusion I can draw is that leftypol is so wealthy it isn't affected by lockdown, or that people actually like capitalists locking them, infantilising them and sacking them.
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 No.221369

>>221364
guess this isn't the place for you
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 No.221373

>>221361
The environment is more important for human health. So yeah I'd do nothing except improve nutrition, sanitation, the air and water supply. That would eliminate almost all diseases. That's a materialist understanding of healthcare and biology, which Lysenko accidentally discovered. The Red Army waged civil war during the supposed Spanish Flu. I'd rather die of illness than live like a chained up serf.
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 No.221421

>>221373
what if i want to eat burgers and smoke? you're really going to force me to give those up? actions that do not harm the health of anyone but me. but telling you to wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease within a community is going too far?
nutrition is definitely important and our shitty manufactured diets are definitely contributing to many if not most diseases, but better nutrition won't prevent all diseases, nor would it prevent pandemics.
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 No.221425

>>221043
>>221214
Do you consider a sore arm for *gasp* ONE day a harmful reaction? Bc that's the extent of the "reaction" I got after the first shot. After the second shot 3 weeks later, I didn't even have a sore arm. I had exactly ZERO side effects also. Wow, so scary. Much concern.
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 No.221431

In ten years, assuming we're not all in a death camp being executed for being superfluous to requirements, every little supposed-leftist shit will claim they were against lockdowns just like they claimed they were against the invasion of Iraq.
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 No.221441

>>221421
Billionaires forcing me to wear masks infringes on my freedom and health.
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 No.221447

>>221425
Sad to hear you got vaxxed. And yeah your body was rejecting it. That's what an adverse reaction is. No counting the thousands dead or disabled from the poisons.
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 No.221449

This Lenin hat individual is obviously not being honest, the scenarios he presents are not realistic, and quite frankly, reactionary.

He has made claims that could be considered denialism of the Spanish Flu.
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 No.221456

>>221441
wow, this is really hard for you to keep track of conversations. so once again, i'm talking about a hypothetical situation where we have communism and there's a pandemic going on. so no billionaires, quit copping out.
you're okay forcing people to eat what you deem to be healthy, but it's not okay to take measures to minimize and control the spread of some disease?
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 No.221469

>>221456
also, i'm not trying to trick you here, i just want you to answer the question. i believe there's a consistent position to be had for resisting capitalist measures to control the virus because they are imposed by capitalists (and likely come with a ton of negative externalities), but in a communist society it would be reasonable because we don't have porky doing shit to fuck with proles. i'm trying to help you formulate a coherent argument because you've yet to do so. unless you really are that unprincipled and don't give a shit about others, even in communism, in which case you are no comrade.
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 No.221474

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 No.221512

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>>221447
>Sad to hear you got vaxxed. And yeah your body was rejecting it. That's what an adverse reaction is.
<A sore arm that lasts exactly one day from a vaccination is an "adverse reaction"
Oh NO, how terrible! How will I ever live with myself knowing that I had mild soreness in my shoulder for a day one time? What do I do bros??

Serious question: Have you ever had your blood drawn by a phlebotomist? That can also give you mild soreness around the place you got poked for a day. Turns out that tends to happen when a doctor or nurse pokes your skin with a needle. Wild, right?
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 No.221518

>>221512
Also getting your tetanus shot can do this. My arm hurt worse with the covid vaccination than it did with tetanus but still. It's not uncommon.
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 No.221539

>>221456
I've given you my answers. No restrictions, no mandatory treatment. I have never said anyone would be forced to eat healthily, although I've no idea why you wouldn't if you could.
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 No.221553

>>221469
I do care about others, which is why I don't believe in forcing medical treatment on them or locking anyone up indoors.
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 No.221594

File: 1620161574557.mp4 (491.2 KB, 720x406, 1620161379377.mp4)

>Biden: Nees to bring the vaccine to those less eager
Its ogre bros… I'm going to be forcefully pricked
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 No.221601

>>221594
In all seriousness, even if the vaccine kills. I would probably get it done if they gave me about $50. Which they should. All the holdouts would get to dab on the early adopters who did it for free
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 No.221603

>>218060
>March 2020
>yes when corona virus what at its worse
On April 1, 2020, there were 823,604 people who had been infected and 40,598 people who died from the Covid pandemic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_cases_in_April_2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_deaths_in_April_2020

As of today, May 4th 2021, there are 153,676,825 people who have been infected and 3,216,016 people who have died from the Covid pandemic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territory

That is an 18,659% increase in infections and 7,922% increase in deaths from the end of March 2020 to today. There is no reasonable interpretation of the data that could justify a conclusion that March 2020 was anywhere near the "worst phase" of the Covid pandemic.
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 No.221723

>>221594
>dot com- dot gov
Could they at least prep us for Kopmala? Joe's dying

Can't wait for news that vaccines are ineffective against a new strain of COVID.
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 No.221735

>>221553
>>221539
so, in a communist society, in the event of a pandemic which spreads through human contact and could be stopped or damages mitigated if certain public health measures were taken (restrictions, vaccines, etc), you would be okay doing nothing and allowing people to die? even if the majority in the population wanted those measures and didn't want to die? certainly you can't claim to care about others (not convincingly so) when you prioritize the liberties of the individual over the community? what about tragedy of the commons scenarios, does a community not have the authority to impose its will on those which threaten the well-being of that community (it definitely does, they grab their guns and fuck up whoever's being an ass)?
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 No.222597

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +382,691

Deaths Today: +3,786
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 No.222717

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 No.225204

File: 1620259672832.png (21.39 KB, 1010x84, Screen Shot 2021-05-05 at ….png)

INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +412,618

Deaths Today: +3,982
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 No.225222

>>221364
I have friends in their mid 20s that have permanent damage from covid and have been needing to go to the hospital to get some juice massaged out of their hearts. Healthy people. Fuck off.
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 No.225259

>>219650
yeah forced medical treatment is pretty fascist
but they DNC endorsed it so fake "leftists" think its a leftist position to take
again
funny how the bourgeois can convince "leftists" into supporting fascism



>I have and can continue to stay inside longer than you, jimmy.

because supporting the bourgeois state forced lockdowns that filter billions to multi nationals is something communists support…right…
>leftist
Yeah I'm not a leftist
thats obvious
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 No.225261

>>225222
they're either unhealthy or you're lying
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 No.225264

>>221603
congratulations the amount of infected increases over time
thats about all you've proved
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 No.225268

>>225222
Can confirm, my cousin literally lost a leg because of CoViD.
Go and get the vaccine, comrades.
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 No.225272

>>221723
shut up, chud, vaccines are proven to be effectinve and save
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 No.225275

File: 1620261504008.jpg (123.8 KB, 955x856, pfizer-gang.jpg)

WHO ELSE PFIZER GANG HERE?
(i hope i won't see any anti-vaxxers on my leftypol)
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 No.225285

>>225268
i died three times because of covid
get all 3 of the vaccines
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 No.225286

>>225275
I'm not getting it
I don't even get flu shots
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 No.225289

>>225275
If i HAD to id get the Johnson and Johnson one because its just one shot but it got pulled so I'll wait
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 No.225367

>>225275
i know someone who died from it good luck
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 No.225370

>>225275
I've had all my moderna shits as of a month ago
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 No.225375

>>225286
contract polio retard
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 No.225377

>>225375
lol cope
still not getting vaxxed retard
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 No.225403

>>225375
imagine being this upset just because you want to go back to sipping pumpkin spice lattes
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 No.225409

>>225377
too bad
>>225403
nice strawman
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 No.225418

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>>225275
No, you're not allowed to be anti-lockdown on leftypol. Being anti-(COVID)vax is ehhh…
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 No.225429

>>225409
cope
but its hilarious how hurt you are over someone's rejection of the vax lmao
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 No.225433

>>225429
You are in self-isolation, right?
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 No.225456

>>225433
>You are in self-isolation, right?
why would I be?
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 No.225459

>>225456
Okay, you're at least wearing a mask and practice social distancing, then?
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 No.225465

File: 1620267997289.jpg (248.55 KB, 1280x693, 0-BLACK_Incognito_Mask_Pro….jpg)

>>225459
I wore Fake Mask but my state doesn't require masks so not anymore
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 No.225468

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>>225465
Then I hope you die from COVID, it would surely own the libs.
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 No.225483

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>>225468
>Then I hope you die from COVID

hahahahaha
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 No.225489

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>>225483
Unironically covid is real but everybody in the wetsern world should catch it so the economy will collapse from all the people who get asthma and long term organ damage from it
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 No.225509

>>225489
all economic issues were caused by hysteria
western economies took a hit but were forced to invest in new technology to enable stay at home and gave the tech sector a huge boost
Western countries benefitted from the covid scare
also the damage done to people by covid is very low its
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 No.225514

>>225509
>also the damage done to people by covid is very low its
Then why havent my lungs recovered even though its been 4 months
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 No.225519

>>225514
Anecdote
try again

even if that were true, your lungs don't counter anything I said
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 No.226082

File: 1620298998141.png (136.75 KB, 620x675, soyj.png)

>>225519
>Anecdote
>try again
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 No.226557

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 No.226694

covid is real
covid is dangerous
lockdowns in western countries are mostly useless and probably malicious too
vax are mainly huckstering and a also a medical experiment on a massive scale
china is not socialist but their handling of the pandemic was exemplar

am I getting banned for this right?
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 No.226755

File: 1620313543310.jpg (34.92 KB, 657x174, IMG_20210506_110518_788.jpg)

This is from the highly respected Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists about who opened Pandora’s box at Wuhan.

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
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 No.226809

>>226755
>wuhan's subway connects different parts of the city
HOLY SHIT THIS MEAN IT'S A LAB BIOWEAPON!
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 No.226837

If anyone's interested in non retarded covid information, naked capitalism posts links and commentary related to it daily.
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 No.226844

>>226837
Is it better than Alex Jones?
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 No.226849

>>226844
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/05/links-5-6-2021.html

You tell me. Their Watercooler posts also tend to have sections dedicated to covid in them, though links and water cooler vary by day regarding what is posted.
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 No.226859

just started a new job. our clientele is a little rough but I'm fine with that because it means no covid doomer karens. the only people to mention the "pandemic" have said it's bullshit. even my coworkers are skeptical although they obviously didn't want to get too into it on the clock. lockdowns and forced experimental vaccines are a bourgeois conspiracy, regardless of whether the virus is natural, escaped, or released
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 No.226876

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 No.227071

>>226859
Pretty much the same in my workplace.
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 No.227076

>>225375
Polio declined because sanitation and nutrition improved due to workers gaining strength and making capitalists improve conditions.
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 No.227079

>>227076
there was a vaccination program, lead by the soviet union, offered to both west and east germany
the west refused, people died, the socialists took it and got rid of it
fuck off /pol/ack shill, your retardation is far too obvious
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 No.227083

>>226694
>lockdowns in western countries are mostly useless and probably malicious too
>china is not socialist but their handling of the pandemic was exemplar

How do you reconcile these 2 contradictory points? Considering that the reason Western countries are being devastated by Covid is precisely because they never had a real lockdown (closing all in-person schools, non-essential workplaces, with full income support for all workers affected). And also considering that the reason China's handling of the pandemic is so exemplary is precisely because it implemented and enforced real lockdowns?
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 No.227089

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 No.227121

>>227079
The USSR eliminated disease because of its superior healthcare, sanitation and healthy food not pumped full of chemicals. The root of disease is social.
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 No.227125

>>227083
>Considering that the reason Western countries are being devastated by Covid is precisely because they never had a real lockdown
This is the lockdown let's gambit.
<We didn't have a rreeeeeeeul lockdown and seal people in their homes to die like capitalist China.
Western countries are ruled by liars who are inflating and faking numbers.
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 No.227131


>>227125
>Western countries are ruled by liars who are inflating and faking numbers.
Is China western? Did Vietnam track and trace for nothing because it's Western?
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 No.227132

>>221735
Restricting another man's freedom does nothing for communism. No man has the right to do so. So yeah I would make no restrictions on anyone's movement, livelihoods or liberty in a communist society. Bill Gates and Co have no right to crush the masses.
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 No.227134

>>227131
China and Vietnam are ruled by capitalists. They just ended their lockdowns earlier because capitalism isn't as old and decayed there.
Britain has had the longest and harshest lockdown in Europe because it's the oldest capitalist country and therefore has to crush the British working class via lockdown to reduce wages and our power.
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 No.227147

>>227132
>Restricting another man's freedom does nothing for communism
Restricting another man's right to own private property is essential to communism you fucking retard
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 No.227156

>>227121
USSR spearheaded polio vaccination when the US and west let down the world by withholding vaccines.

Spread your cancer on twitter, because you sound like a fucking liberal.
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 No.227158

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>>227121
I think what you miss is that the root of the vaccine is social as well. Theres an arbitrary distinction in your mind between "natural" and man made. 'Healthy food not pumped full of chemicals' is not actually more organic or more holistic—thats just marketing. It requires an even greater degree of labor and human intervention to produce such food.

All the poisonous chemicals and gene therapy we do to food now is done with the purpose primarily of reducing the need for human labor. To make it cheaper and more profitable. The same with vaccines. Vaccines are more efficient in labor time than trying to clean the air and all those other labor intensive methods of disease control.

I would ask that you measure the cost benefits in the situation of the vaccine the same way you do with organic food. Would it be desirable for everyone to have organic food? Yes. We should have that as a goal. However in the meantime people who for reasons of capitalism partake in the usual poisoned food should not be made to starve themselves. Or shamed for their consumer choices.

I put to you that anti-vaxx as praxis is little more than lifestylism
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 No.227224

>>227147
That isn't a basic democratic freedom.
If a "communist" party ever tried to lock up workers in their homes, it would deserve to be overthrown. Even a bourgeois cretin like Peter Hitchens concedes that the same GDR which he hates never locked people up inside.
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 No.227232

>>227156
Almost all vaccination programs come from the USA. The Gates operation is based there. The US government is pumping Americans full of vaccines as we speak. There are no coincidences, everything the bourgeoisie do is calculated and planned to advance their interests. American kids are given a grotesque number of vaccines and they're only getting more sickly over time.
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 No.227238

>>227156
Well the USSR got the science wrong, as they regularly did (except for Lysenko which they were correct about).
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 No.227241

>>227224
>That isn't a basic democratic freedom.
Don't stain yourself moving those goalposts you dumb fuck
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 No.227242

>>227083
not contradictory
western lockdowns =/= proper lockdowns in the PRC
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 No.227263

>>227241
Property infringes on others' freedom. The right to free movement, speech, choice of medical treatment, does not.
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 No.227271

>>227158
Vaccines don't even work though, that's the thing. They're deliberately harmful, don't cure disease, are a money making exercise and are now literally being used for genetic modification of human beings.
I'm not saying to starve anyone, it's the fascist Gatesian Mengelian psychopaths who want us to die if you don't submit to their medical regimes like at Auschwitz. Vaccines are just the start. They want us chipped like dogs.
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 No.227280

This thread nails down communists can be retarded too
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 No.227295

>>227280
the denialist(s) aren't, you have to have a basic understanding of the world to have a ideology in a meaningful sense (yes, I know that sounds elitist)
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 No.227303

>>227271
Take your meds or you're getting another corrective beating.
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 No.227307

>>227271
If you use a phone or a computer you're probably already chipped like a dog functionally speaking unless you go through Stalmann tier giga autismo countermeasures.
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 No.227322

>>227303
I am not for beating the infirm but every rule has exceptions.
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 No.227326

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>>227242
If the PRC lockdowns were proper and exemplary, then why would you oppose the same lockdowns being implemented in Western countries? You weren't arguing that lockdowns in Western countries don't go far enough, you were arguing that they were "useless" >>226694 AKA "re-open the economy and allow the Coronavirus to freely spread", which is the exact position taken by the Capitalist financial oligarchy:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/02/pers-a02.html
Macron’s pandemic speech and the politics of “social murder”
>The ruling elite in France and internationally refuses to take meaningful action to stop a new wave of COVID-19 deaths that is sweeping the globe.

>The response of France’s “president of the rich” must be taken as a warning to workers not only in France, but internationally: the ruling class acts with utter contempt for human life. Macron’s speech, no doubt coordinated with the European Union (EU) and Washington, was an unambiguous refusal to take any meaningful action to halt mass deaths.


>Now, however, as thousands face a denial of lifesaving care in a wealthy European country, Macron is refusing to stop nonessential production and has closed schools for less than two weeks.


>Macron also shamelessly applauded his own disastrous policy, claiming that he was “taking into account the consequences of restrictions on our children, on their education, on the economy, on society, on mental health.” Had he spoken honestly, Macron would have said he was “taking into account the consequences of social distancing restrictions on our companies, their profits, and our fortunes.” Schools and nonessential production are being kept open—not based on scientific evidence—but to ensure that corporate profits keep flowing into the financial markets.
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 No.227374

>>227326
>hen why would you oppose the same lockdowns being implemented in Western countries?
I did not.
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 No.227501

>>226694
its only dangerous if you're unhealthy
unfortunately most people in western countries are fat fucks
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 No.227615

>>227263
people spreading a disease because they refuse to take proper precautions is infringing on the freedom of those that aren't stupid fucks.
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 No.227640

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>>227263
>lenin cap opens mouth
>liberalism falls out
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 No.227652

>>227615
"proper precautions" haven't changed infection rate
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 No.227662

>>227652
follow the convo, i'm not arguing they have
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 No.227706

>>227662
you are though
>people spreading a disease because they refuse to take proper precautions
this implies that following "proper precautions" would change anything
learn reading comprehension
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 No.227707

How do i deal with a father in law who is scared of vaccines and keeps getting pulled into stupid pipelines
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 No.227712

>>227707
why would you have to "deal with him"?
what's wrong with not swallowing bourgeois vaccine propaganda
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 No.227716

>>227706
i was responding to lenin hat in the context of a hypothetical scenario, not the one going on now.
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 No.227718

>>227716
well guess you're just unable to defend your points
makes sense
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 No.227721

what points were those? i never suggested current measure are effective. are you being a cunt on purpose?
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 No.227729

>>227721
>people spreading a disease because they refuse to take proper precautions
this implies that following "proper precautions" would change anything
learn reading comprehension
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 No.227733

>>227729
you not reading the thread and understanding the context implies that you're retarded. quit shitting up the board
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 No.227755

>>227733
>you not reading the thread and understanding the context implies that you're retarded. quit shitting up the board

lol you can't defend your posting so you resort to shitposting lmao
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 No.227760

>>227755
k retard, here's the prompt since you couldn't be bothered.
>>221735
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 No.227769

>>227760
"proper precautions" haven't changed infection rate
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 No.228014

>>226694
dangerously based take
<user was banned for this post
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 No.228033

>>226694
Only the vax take is edgy, Western "lockdowns" were a shit show that the governments mostly pussyfooted around. Best way to do it is with robust tracking and tracing like Vietnam, or just lockdown tight for a few months like China and get it over with ASAP.
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 No.228075

>>227769
they have
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 No.228104

>>227769
Vietnam. inb4 fake!
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 No.228144

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +414,433

Deaths Today: +3,920
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 No.228169

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 No.228237

>>228104
vietnam isn't anything special
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 No.228414

Comrades, I got the johnson and johnson and jesus and jennsen and gen z.
I feel like shit
Someone hold me please.
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 No.228571

>>228414
are you getting blood clots?
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 No.228575

Ever since I took the vaccine no woman has wanted to fuck me. I'm a vaxcel now
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 No.228662

>>228414
Any medicos here to confirm whether aspirin would be a good idea for our comrade?
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 No.228980

>>228414
You'll be alright, take a nap, your body is reacting to the signals of the virus and trying to beat it. There there anon.
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 No.229076

If you dont have covid then you are no true communist
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 No.229099

If you don't give me your limited edition Power Rangers Ninja Force Morphers you're not a true communist.
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 No.229144

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 No.229270

Indian hospitals are literally having Covid patients lie on mortuary slabs and just blatantly helping infect more people by putting them in nursing homes and in wards with other patients
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 No.229272

>>228575
Anon, have you considered that you might be gay?
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 No.229279

>>229270
what's their endgame?
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 No.229300

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 No.229435

>>229279
And endgame would assume they had a plan to begin with. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they just assumed (or were hoping) that vaccines would be the silver bullet they wanted it to be. If India's leaders are anything like those of their western allies, it's not like they know anything about epidemiology.

It's hard to tell what these fools believe and what is just them saying their lines, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they are high on their own supply and bought into the idea that herd immunity and vaccines would have us at 0 cases by now, and just didn't plan or make any allowances for shit going catastrophically wrong.
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 No.229474

>>228414
Update. I took a bunch of ibuprofen and it really helped.
I took it around 11 hours. Started feeling symptoms at 21 hours. At 22 hours took 400 mgs of ibuprofen. Then at 23 200mgs. Then at 24 hours took another 400 mgs. Around 2 am stopped feeling symptoms. Then at 3 took 200 mgs just for good measure and a good sleep. I'm with my parents and they were pressuring me to take more and more. The bottle said "take no more than six 200mgs pills every 24 hours" so I figured it was relatively safe to oblige up to that number.

I feel great today. No symptoms at all. Hopefully this shit worked.
>>228571
No blood clots that I can sense.
>>228662
The pharmacy said to only take ibuprofen. It hit me really hard and really fast. If anyone does get this shot I'd recommend taking an ibuprofen (200mgs) as soon as you start feeling symptoms (of course make sure you are feeling them).
That way you won't feel like shit and start spamming ibuprofens when the symptoms get worse. Everyone reacts differently, so maybe this advice is moot. I don't usually react well to the flu. Maybe it's related.
>>228980
Thanks bb. <3 I'm alright now. What a ride.
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 No.229582

>>229474
this is exactly why I'm not getting the vaccine
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 No.229583

>>229279
trim the fat probably
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 No.229889

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>people in this thread don't know about Ivermectin and are still unironically shilling vaccines
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 No.229908

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>>229270
Please provide no source.
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 No.229923

test
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 No.229942

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Doomers, could you please explain to me why you believe the official narrative, why you support the unprecedented authoritarianism it has been used to justify, and why I shouldn't believe this whole thing is a bourgeois psyop a la 9/11? I'm not really looking to argue, just to actually understand your psychology and experiences
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 No.229960

>>229942
Loaded question. Personally, I'm not a fan of global genocide. And everyone I know knows someone personally who either died or has permanent damage from COVID. I don't know or care where you're from. In the third world where I'm from, workers didn't want to get sick and petit faggots were pushing the anti-lockdown meme with similar rhetoric than that of the retarded Lenin hat. They were "advocating for workers" and big business syndicates were encouraging "working together employee and employer". Unadulterated class collaborationism. I don't want my loved ones or I to die or get crippling effects from covid. It's that simple.
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 No.229966

>>229889
Hey mom, I've already sent you evidence that the medicine isn't backed by evidence to treat covid. What are you doing here anyways?
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 No.229979

>>229270
>pajeets not understanding hygienic practices

its just the end stage of class warfare when a lower class loses
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 No.229993

As India continues to get battered by the 2nd wave pressure rises for a new lockdown
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-india-modi-4b84e957a87139ac6bd90390f2d08b42
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 No.229998

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>>229966
>muh i fucking love science
>thinks evidence won't get suppressed to drive up profits
what the fuck are you doing here?
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 No.230007

>>229998
I have a bridge to sell you
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 No.230011

>>229998
Not realizing this board is actually unironically 90% libshits who love science.
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 No.230012

>>230011
Literally this. Name one thing scientists have stated correctly. You literally can't.
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 No.230014

>>230011
Go back to the cave shaman
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 No.230017

>>230014
Cope harder science-believer! You literally deny the TRUTH that the world is a flat infinite plane (much like a Minecraft world) with zero evidence to back that up! Use your EYEBALLS for once!
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 No.230028

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>>230014
He's right unfortunately. It is a plague on this website
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 No.230037

>>229998
>Unironic anti-vaxxer shilling on leftypol
Vaccines are subject to intense review pre and post release. The mass release of a fake or harmful vaccine would do more to destroy big pharma than 100 million anti-vax nutters striking in front of their corporate office while promulgating conspiracy theories non-stop on social media. The science behind vaccinations is sound, well-known and has been subject to more review than quantum physics. The medical research community doesn't fuck around despite the mass suspicions from reactionary pick up truck driving construction working bros. Given the engineering of vaccination is well-established, and a vaccine for coronavirus is completely doable, the cost-benefit of big pharma releasing a fake vaccine for profit is proportional to the cost-benefit of Frito-Lays trying to sell 100 million bags of ebola tainted dog feces off as Doritos when they have a plentiful access to corn.

Personally, just from experience, I was vaccinated when my toddler son and wife got coronavirus. I didn't suffer symptoms, but watched my wife become bed ridden for weeks and my son was floored so bad we took him to the ER several times. I don't know if I would have survived given how badly it fucked them up. If you want to be an idiot, that's your prerogative, but pushing anti-vaxx theories as if they're woke takes is so idiotic it's vomit inducing. You clearly don't know shit about anything, and yet are exhibiting a peak dunning kruger effect in regards to medical research, vaccine engineering and post-production oversight.
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 No.230046

>>230037
>but pushing anti-vaxx theories
I know someone who died from the pfizer (blood clot). I supposed it was just a theory. Fuck off.
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 No.230048

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>>230028
thanks based
you_got_btfo_by_my_meme_of_someone_making_your_argument_who_has_an_ugly_face.png
poster
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 No.230061

>>230046
>I know someone who died from the pfizer
Link to their obituary then. Or this should be pretty big news, just cite the webpage where it discusses how Pfizer led to blood clot. Don't post no bullshit like rgtnews.com links either. I want established fucking proof that your friend died from the Pfizer vaccine.
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 No.230062

>>230046
I honestly thought the COVID vaccines would be deadlier.
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 No.230091

I will never take the vaccine
unless paid $50
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 No.230094

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I've finally decided that if I ever have children I'd rather teach them how to stay as healthy as possible and take the truly negligible chance that they will catch some disease than curse them with lifelong autoimmunity and heavy metal poisoning by vaccinating them

>>229960
>global genocide
please, covid is blip on the radar if you look at actual deaths rather than false positive "cases"
I live in the flyover midwest and the only people I know who know of people who've died from covid are healthcare workers and doomers whose views of reality are warped by fear and religious loyalty to technocracy. I'm genuinely not trying to be dismissive; to give you an example, my roomate says she sees multiple anti-maskers every time she grocery shops and yet I've never seen more than two handfuls in over a year. we shop at the same stores obviously. a significant portion of the customers at my new job, especially boomers, think covid is a psyop too.
>Unadulterated class collaborationism.
so lockdowns?
>>229998
classic examples: male genital mutilation and glycosophate
>>229960
more like go back to *your* cave yakub
there's literally nothing wrong with being a shaman, trusting natural medicine most of all, and being skeptical of consensus reality in general. you would think marxoids would recognise the importance of understanding and combatting bourgeois propaganda / profiteering but seeing as most of them have internalised radlib ideology maybe I shouldn't be surprised
>>230062
they're over 180 times deadlier than flu vaccines
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 No.230101

>>230048
I'm not saying the science fetishists are in this thread, just agreeing it is somewhat an issue on leftypol (well, most of Western society)
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 No.230114

>>230094
>lockdowns are class collaboration
>when pork is freaking out, trying to get people back to work
Imagine being objectively wrong. Get the fuck out.
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 No.230138

>>230114
you've made this delusional argument several times and it never gets more convincing. at best you can say that a certain, more nationalist / classically liberal sector of the bourgeoisie is pushing to end lockdowns. but as far as the western world is concerned they're a losing minority outside of america. the neoliberal establishment is fully on board with the great reset / fourth industrial revolution. which, like the other industrial revolutions, is really just a qualitative leap forward for capitalist enclosure. I'm sure there's nothing nefarious to everyone being forced to conduct a significant portion of their social interaction via platforms that likely track and even record everything, though
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 No.230142

>>230101
Science is trapped by capitalism. That's why you get alienated scientists without a moral code and the obsessed in STEM. Polymath is the socialist future.
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 No.230148

>>230094
>a significant portion of the customers at my new job, especially boomers, think covid is a psyop too
Lol. All of my coworkers think that Covid was made in a lab by big pharma to make big bucks off the vaccines.
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 No.230150

>>230138
>fourth industrial revolution
Motherfucker, it's King Lear again.
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 No.230154

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>>230114
Its both. We should be used to the way this works by now. The big(international) and financial bourgeoisie want lockdowns extended to keep the real economy slow and continue to increase the value of their financial assets. Even on a more naive level we know companies like Amazon are making a killing behind the lockdowns.

Then there are the petit(national) bourgeoisie. Small business owners crying about how their being driven out of business. Landlords complaining they can't maintain their own property costs with a rent freeze going on. Etc..

This structure isn't new we see this divide all the time.
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 No.230155

>>230138
something related that bothers me is this narrative that big pharma is somehow doing the third world a disservice by witholding experimental vaccines from them. in my view original people have been experimented on enough already by imperialists, I'm glad to see the devil taking his own poison for once
>>230150
klaus schwab of WEF and great reset fame literally wrote a book with that title. if you still think it's a conspiracy you aren't just dense, you're a willing idiot of capital
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 No.230160

>>230154
They want to extend nothing. They merely used their position to get compensated for their losses. Losses. Not profits.

>>230155
It's not a conspiracy, it's irrelevant bullshit by some know-nothing dipshit. How many times are you going to ban evade, you stupid fuck?
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 No.230165

>Indian COVID-19 variant clusters found across England; ongoing risk to public health from B16172 is "high" despite the extensive vaccination level in the country, according to a leaked PHE document
When we go into another lockdown you have to agree to never post again
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 No.230170

>>230165
>you
Who? Also, is the variant avoiding the immunity?
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 No.230177

>>230142
science will always be trapped by politics, culture, and the uneven division of labour. a society of ploymaths would be ideal but I doubt most people will ever have an interest in the distilled autism of your average scientific paper
>>230160
>they want to extend nothing
bezos types, big pharma, and wannabe tinpot dictators everywhere objectively do tho. the former have seen record profits
>it's irrelevant bullshit by some know-nothing dipshit
schwab is embedded in the global establishment you actual retard
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 No.230182

What would really help more than vax is shooting deniers dead. Punishment for endangering others is much too lenient across the west.
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 No.230203

>>230170
Yes you. The stock market going up increases the financiers wealth more than they'd get from the pre-covid economy *because* the rate of profit is so low. The lockdowns are acting in a way as if they had killed off half the population of proles. More wealth goes to them.

Whatever other bullshit they say they are saying I don't care. The conspiracy people are in the right when they connect the dots that there is a segment of the bourgeoisie that have a vested interest in trying to put the brakes on capitalism–the same kind of financuers that fund stuff like davos think tanks to dream up a 'fourth industrial revolution'. And the big push from the top to try and extend the state of emergency and things like sheltering as much as possible.

I don't think its possible for them to succeed at this in the long term, but it is a desire of a large part of the ruling class to not return to normal.

>>230182
Stuff like this is no better than idpol. Study the economics behind the situation and form your own line rather than adopting one of the two prepackaged opinions presented for you.
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 No.230218

>>230203
>idpol
Having no concern for the criminally insane is not idpol. It's just a bit outside the norm.
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 No.230221

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>>230203
>as if they had killed off half the population of proles. More wealth goes to them.
<killing off half of the productive laborforce means more money for capitalists
>there is a segment of the bourgeoisie that have a vested interest in trying to put the brakes on capitalism
<
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 No.230236

>>230221
maximum kek
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 No.230301

>>230037
>Vaccines are subject to intense review pre and post release.
The ones for covid are still on phase 3 still.
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 No.230315

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 No.230360

>>230142
>Science is trapped by capitalism

Are the people who run and hang out on leftypol retarded?

I'm a research scientist who has worked on the upcoming Mars mission, and hearing this take makes me think the people on this board have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

1st) A vast amount of research is dedicated towards projects which by design have no application which can be made to turn profits or usage in the private sector. There are Mathematical researchers who strive as hard as they can to focus research on subjects which cannot be applied in any meaningful way.

2nd) Most of the research scientists I've encountered working at colleges across the world are socialists. So many research scientists are socialists that I guarantee that there were at least 2 socialists behind every vaccine on the market today. Socialists run the colleges, vote in the college senate and determine funding for research… Not capitalists.

3rd) Most research scientists have no interest in generating capital or patents or helping advance private interests. Those scientists who clearly work in coordination with big pharma and the military industrial complex are often pariahs amongst colleagues. They don't tend to advance in academic environments.

4th) A vast amount of the research which helped empower modern technology was done with out of pocket funding from scientists who gained access to labs from teaching.

It's disappointing to see people who clearly have no fucking idea how research is conducted today swamp a socialist board with takes on academic research that were probably gleaned by some disgruntled ex-college researcher who truly sucked at producing objective results of interest. There's this misconception spread by disgruntled weed outs bashing scientific research who mask themselves as ex-insiders that the research community should be interested in everybody's brain farts. The fact is that the research community just wants to see results or outcomes, and simply doesn't have the time to read every brain fart that is dressed up with scientific lingo. It's not because they're in cahoots with the capitalist overlords and illuminati. Most modern researchers make less than software engineers. They just don't have time to listen to people shit talking lingo about theories that have no normative data to back them up.
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 No.230366

>>>230221
They aren't productive anymore is the fucking point. The rate of profit is low to the point that the proles are a liability in further lowering the rate of profit more than they can be used to generate profits. *For the large bourgeoisie. * A small business owner who derives most of their value from proles can still squeeze more profits out of them than the big bourgeoisie whose capital is mostly constant(automated) or financial. Thats why the ruling class fights among itself over going back to work or staying in lockdown
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 No.230368

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>>230203
>there is a segment of the bourgeoisie that have a vested interest in trying to put the brakes on capitalism
I uncritically support them.
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 No.230387

>>230360
Why is my insulin 200 USD you fucking idiot? Your space science clearly wont tell you the goddamn reason. Why is that 2030 space hotel story making rounds? Your PhD's in shit not related to the real developement of societies wont tell you that. If there are so many socialists in the STEM fields, why the fuck are the West's productive capacity for vaccines being utilized to carve out property, commercial, and legal rights over the poorest nations in the world that can barely escape the name of neocolonies? Why the fuck is most fucking research done by you dolts falls into the property-grubbing hands of the people that pay for the majority of fucking research that is done? Go eat Musk's shit or (in a more productive fashion) fucking read any scientific materialist work of theory or history
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 No.230394

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 No.230405

>>230360
>Science is trapped by capitalism
Yes? I don't know what type of sciencebro bullshit this is but science doesn't exist outside of the political and cultural influence of the society its being practiced under. Also wasn't there some big scandal a few years back in a major uni department where they found the results of studies were being falsified? Also its my understanding that a huge number if not most studies are funded by big capital.
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 No.230412

>>230387
>Why is my insulin 200 USD you fucking idiot?
You sound fucking dumber than shit, and I sincerely hope no one takes your opinions seriously.

Did you buy your insulin from a scientist? Did you buy it directly from Sir Frederick G Banting?

>Why is that 2030 space hotel story making rounds?


So did the guys who invented space travel make this hotel?

I mean how fucking stupid do you have to fucking be to mix up the difference between a scientist and a corporation that steals, manipulates or rips off a scientists invention for profit.

Go suck you dick you fucking moron. You don't know shit about the research community or scientists or science and have an epic case of the dunning kruger effect.
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 No.230425

>>230405
>Also wasn't there some big scandal a few years back in a major uni department where they found the results of studies were being falsified?
On the occasion some people falsify results just like on the occasion some socialists transform into fascists. Should I assume all socialists are fascists?

>Also its my understanding that a huge number if not most studies are funded by big capital.

You're understanding is wrong. Most studies are funded by their schools. The next significant amount of studies are funded by government entities like the NIH. A tiny amount of studies are funded by the DoD. An even smaller amount are funded by philanthropists. Below that, are studies funded by corporations which are generally dismissed as biased. If you are smart enough to realize a corporate funded research project is biased then what makes you think the research community isn't. Most academic research scientists are left-leaning, and will hit corporate funded researchers with embarrassing fiery rebuttals.
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 No.230426

>>230412
>Scientific research is not beholden to capital
<Capitalists own the research produced and squander it on boojie bullshit
<Capitalists own the means to research
<Capitalists decide what is researched and how those results are utilized
>Science is still somehow not owned like a bitch by capitalists, the same way they own the world in our times

Coping retard, you entire fucking field is decided by the capitalists, its owned by them, it dosent matter how many self avowed socialists are in those fields if theyre not able to decide how and why their research is conducted and utilized.
Coping moronic stemfag go fucking read a book youll find plenty of good shit in the /edu/ section
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 No.230429

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>>230387
>Why is my insulin 200 USD you fucking idiot?
I know you weren't actually looking for an answer, but insulin is expensive for the same reason renting a place to live costs about 1k a month in america on average.
Sure they're things that people should rightly be entitled to because otherwise they'll die, but when demand is high then prices rise and demand for human necessities are always high. The system holds people hostage, extorting people on a regular basis, because that's the system's "incentive" to produce and distribute those things.
The pharmaceutical industry works oligopolistically to control markets, in much the same way that cartels in mexico do. That's why people like martin shkreli almost got away with raising the price of AIDS medication to thousands of dollars - because of oligopolistic market control by people who profit off of human illnesses.
There are also plenty of patented drugs which dont get produced despite being objectively necessary, such as the vaccine for lyme disease lymerix.
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 No.230433

>>230429
it was a rhetorical question made to ridicule that suppsoed researcher anon that said that the natural scientists arent owned by capitalists. But thanks anyways captain obvious
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 No.230457

>>230426
>Capitalists own the research produced
No more than capitalists own leftypol.
Capitalists own the means of production not the means of scientific research or the means of leftypol.
>Capitalists own the means to research
<Most retarded thing you've said all day
Thanks, everybody who reads this ignorant thread will be that much dumber now.
>Capitalists decide what is researched and how those results are utilized
No they literally don't. The scientist decides what will be researched, then teaches and get's access to a lab with a professor research stipend. They then produce results and publish. Capitalists read those publications and make products from the results they're able to read (which the technology sector is about 30-40 years behind academic knowledge).
>Science is still somehow not owned like a bitch
Just how stupid this fucking sentence is makes me cringe. Science is not something you can own like a house or iphone. It's literally a method by which to show results of a theory. Again, the dunning kruger effect is strong in you mouth breather.
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 No.230459

>>230412
Thanks, idiot with a degree.
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 No.230463

>>230457
>Capitalists own the means of production not the means of scientific research or the means of leftypol.
Have you heard of this thing called "Intellectual property", my guy?
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 No.230468

>>230459
I mean if you want to be ignorant about scientific research that's on you. I happened to see how fucking retarded this thread got, and just wondered if the people who run and hang out on leftypol are retards. I guess they are apparently, because they think most scientists work for wall street when in fact they're generally underpaid leftists who do it out of interest.

>>230463
Ya, I probably have more experience with patents than you. Intellectual property is not the means of scientific research, and corporations stealing ideas from scientists is not literally "le science being owned by le illuminati" or whatever shit you idiots spout on this board. A lot of capitalists capitalize on modern research no doubt, but that doesn't mean it controls research. As of now, most tech companies have a research department with no more than 5-10 PhDs while the vast amount of research is done on the professor's stipend, out of his own interest and published for free while allowing the public full access to enrich their knowledge from the findings.
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 No.230476

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>>230468
>vast amount of research is done on the professor's stipend, out of his own interest and published for free
Uh-huh. And you look at this absence of capital in research, the technological stagnation outsidem the millions being thrown at shit like Juicero and then claim
>A lot of capitalists capitalize on modern research no doubt, but that doesn't mean it controls research.
Ya, I definitely have more experience with leftism than you.
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 No.230519

The UK may be dropping the quarantine requirement for arrivals from Australia and New Zealand.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-56645990
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 No.230559

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 No.230616

File: 1620435628637.gif (1.47 MB, 656x368, 1541796616562.gif)

>TFW I just realized this entire board is just Reddit.
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 No.230712

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +401,326

Deaths Today: +4,194
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 No.230757

>>230182
Not a fan of shooting covid denialists. I do however remember this video from early pandemic (April? May 2020?) of a maskless, racist white Karen screaming, invading the personal space and spitting at the face of this random Asian guy wearing his mask on the bus and just minding his own business and as soon as the bus stopped and opened its doors he just pushed her so hard that she flew out the open bus door and ate shit face-first on the concrete. That chet was hilarious. She got BTFO
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 No.230778

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>>230757
>Not a fan of shooting covid denialists.
Well that's not very cash-money of you.
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 No.230795

>>230778
I'm just not a fan of shooting people in general tbh. Yeah, yeah political power from the barrel of the gun or whatever and I get that. Truly I do. I just don't feel like shooting people. I've fired rifles and am actually a fairly accurate/precise shot with them if I do say so myself, I just wouldn't ever want to blow an actual human being away.

I think even Orwell(?) once said something along the lines that even though the guys he was shooting in Catalonia in the Spanish Civil War were fascists-falangists, it still didn't fully take away the queasy feeling he got in his stomach at ending the lives of other young men, and the sheer carnage and waste and tragedy of it all. Supposedly he ratted out other socialists to the coppers later on in life in the UK which I'm obviously not a fan of but his youth spent in the International Brigades in Spain were pretty based tho.
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 No.230796

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>>230218
>seeing through an obvious psyop makes you criminally insane
why do marxists have such a superiority complex, seriously? even if your ideology is scientific you aren't exactly making that born in your understanding of the situation. covid is such an obvious psyop, they've moved the goalposts so many times that anyone who's survived a narcissistic relationship should be able to see that
>>230221
thanks to automation they don't need us anymore so they're working to kill us off slowly ideally without us realising what's going on
>>230360
>I'm a research scientist who has worked on the upcoming Mars mission
picrel, also cope, the moon landing was a hoax
>>230387
holy mother of based
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 No.230800

>>230796
COVID denial is banned FYI. There's plenty of other places you can go spread that nonsense.
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 No.230802

>>230796
>thanks to automation they don't need us anymore so they're working to kill us off slowly ideally without us realising what's going on
this is a braindead take.
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 No.230803

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>>230800
budd whyy :D D :D :ddd
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 No.230804

>>230802
Don't engage him, or he will start sperging out about "Fourth Industrial Revolution" shit. How many fucking times will he ban evade to repeat the same shit only to get banned for it again?
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 No.230805

>>230800
I'm not denying covid you transhumanist, I'm questioning certain aspects of the bourgeois narrative of covid. Something you state capitalists can't seem to manage
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 No.230808

>>230805
i wish you get the sniffles and leave us alone you fucking radlib
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 No.230810

>>230805
'covid is a psyop' is basically saying it's fake unless you elaborate on that further.
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 No.230811

>>230805
if we're state capitalist then wtf is fascism
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 No.230812

>>230805
also I'm not evading, one of the other mods with some braincells must of reversed the ban unless my ISP changes IP every 24 hours or something (which is unlikely)
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 No.230814

>>230810
by "psyop" I mean the messaging is a psyop you retard. 9/11 was a psyop but the towers still fell, you feel me?
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 No.230817

>>230804
>"Fourth Industrial Revolution"
Fuck covid denial, people who reproduce this meme understanding of history and politics should be banned.
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 No.230820

>>230814
>by "psyop" I mean the messaging is a psyop you retard

Well that's not what you said is it? Easy to backpedal once you get called out for your shitty overly broad statement.
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 No.230825

>>230820
if you're gonna put words in my mouth don't be upset when I won't own them. you misinterpreted me cause of your bias against covid skeptics, I feel no obligation to overqualify my language
>>230817
>implying "everything the government says is true" isn't the memeyist understanding of history
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 No.230827

>>230778
As to that specific photo of the Trumpers looking like a zombie horde, it was from the April 2020 Michigan anti-lockdown protests was it not? Wild that the cops didn't brutalize them like they did against anti-police brutality protestors in the mass national and international protests in response to George Floyd's murder by Derek Chauvin and Minneapolis PD.

It's almost like the latter (anti-police brutality protests) were a threat to the enforcing arm of bourgeois rule (cops) and potentially bourgeois rule itself, while the former (Trump-backed Michigan anti-lockdown protest, funded by billionaire Betsy DeVos and the DeVos family) were not.

Considering what was later revealed about the far-right Michigan Milita/Boogaloo Bois/III%ers/etc plotting a conspiracy to abduct and execute Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer on public live-stream, ISIS-style, a real boots-on-the-ground billy club/baton/tear gas/rubber bullet riot-control approach by Michigan cops would have (and should have) been more than warranted in that particular situation against that particular threat.
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 No.230865

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>>230827
>Y'All-Qaeda was a failure
Americans never fail to disappoint.
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 No.230901

>>230827
>It's almost like the latter (anti-police brutality protests) were a threat to the enforcing arm of bourgeois rule (cops) and potentially bourgeois rule itself, while the former (Trump-backed Michigan anti-lockdown protest, funded by billionaire Betsy DeVos and the DeVos family) were not.

is that why there were supported by the leadership of every major city and multinational corporation?
retard IDpolers think that BLM is somehow revolutionary when the police and the military are dancing in the streets with them

BLM protesters are just useful idiots for Neoliberalism
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 No.231258

Another bad rich person who should have died from covid but survived and is now ruining my life

I am 100% convinced COVID was created by Bill Gates and his ilk to kill poor people.
And they purposefully fund covid hoaxers to continue to make us die and make us commit our own classicide.

I vow to not go easy on any one of these pawns of the ruiling class. Fuck class useful idiot class traitors like them and especially FUCK THE RULING CLASS.
I'm okay for hell to be real and burn for all eternity if they also burn with me.
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 No.231402

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>>230796

>the moon landing was a hoax

The irony of your meme calling others a psyop while you're spouting flat earther conspiracies on leftypol is enough to kek someone's sides into orbit around the moon.

>picrel

For long term Mars and Lunar missions we worked on a method of mining water and oxygen resources from icy regolith with automated robots (see: https://youtu.be/4ImQih8vlkc ). Currently I work in Bayesian machine learning, and previously I've worked in simulating semiconductor physics.

>>>230387

>holy mother of based
There's literally nothing based about a take equating research scientists with big pharma CEOs. Research scientists aren't part of some illuminati in cahoots with Wall Street. They more often than not develop cutting edge technologies and medical advancements in some college basement for a mere pittance. Then 30-40 years goes by before your average corporate BS can understand their technology, convince their bosses of it's profitable nature and use the bourgeoisie's productive infrastructure to produce it on an industrial scale. The average research scientist goes into research because they don't think the added monetary compensation in the private sector is worth dealing with corporate culture. Of all the research scientists I've met easily 98% of them were avidly avoiding having their work used in military applications, and all of them were publicly publishing their research. Insulin is $200 a shot because the bourgeoise own the means to mass produce it, but the chemistry of insulin is freely accessible to everyone. Just like the chemistry of vaccines is freely accessible for anyone to read. Just like the technical methods behind traveling to the moon or mars is freely accessible for anyone to read. What this dumb ass take is doing is equating the bourgeoise taking advantage of the public accessibility of scientific research for profit (which they do) with the bourgeoise somehow controlling science (which is so CHUD tier retarded it's off the Retarded scale). There's not a tech product on the market that isn't obsolete compared to where the research for that tech is at.

Socialist theory get's scientific and scientific research on socialist economic theories is conducted across academia.
Lot's of scientists are socialists, and college senates who vote on department funding/classes/curriculums are filled with hardcore leftists.
There's a trend in the research community to carefully formulate projects so as to either have no profitable application or to primarily benefit communities with no means of production (i.e. OpenSource).

If the bourgeoisie had a modicum of real control over research science they would stomp out the socialist economic research in every public college, replace the college senates, remove tenure so as to reconstruct the scientific community with profit minded middle management Randroids capable of exploiting workers into conducting high quality research, and ensure research science was primarily focused on applicable and profitable ventures. They can't do that though, because most profit minded rightoids are masochistic idiots incapable of high quality research because they think Atlas Shrugged should be in the Bible, and primarily because most research is done out of professor pocket stipends.

So the bourgeoise settle on stealing ideas from publicly printed research articles, patent trolling and allowing leftist research scientists educate students so as that they might be exploited for technical labor. Furthermore, they've tried purging leftist elements out of research communities in the past, but the effects tended towards disaster.

I cannot overexagerrate how ignorant it is to presume that the science is somehow controlled by the bourgeoise or the illuminati or by profits. That's conflating the means of production with the means of understanding. Also, mind you, having better lab equipment doesn't always correlate with more advanced research. Some of the highest quality research is conducted with a pen, paper and publicly available normative data.
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 No.231408

>>230901
>there was a video of macarena cops in one place so the hundreds of rounds of tear gas canisters launched from grenade launchers don't count
>deliberately dispersing anger through fake welcoming means they actually like you
go back to stupidpol
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 No.231427

>>230360
bruh i meant that science, not scientists, is limited in its reach because of capitalism. All the research that you have mention would reach its full potential in socialism. Just like how climate scientists are limited to soften their vocabulary because they know that our modern economy is incapable of dealing with the problem, but they can't openly say it or they they do, they are softly censored by the spectacle.
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 No.231428

>>230795
Sure but I was not talking about practical concerns. All I'm saying is we could make a serious step forward as a society if the state would administer death to those who put their own perverse enjoyment above the well-being and physical safety of people.
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 No.231462

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>>231408
BLM supported by every multinational and half of the political establishment including cops and the military

<iTs teH rEvoloooTion guis xD

sounds like you are the stupidpol here
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 No.231475

>>231462
did you expect Kellogs to say
>uyghur deserved it
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 No.231482

>>231462
BLM isn't antifa, retard. point me to the multinationals that support antifa. right now.
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 No.231491

>>231475
>moving the goal posts
well that solves it then
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 No.231495

>>231462
They support the national organization that is basically completely irrelevant to anyone or anything and literally exists to get wokebux and try to co-opt things with shitlibs. Nobody who is out on the streets gives a fuck about the national organization.
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 No.231496

>>231482
>BLM isn't antifa, retard

In the US they're the same thing
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 No.231500

>>231495
you're saying that like it changes anything
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 No.231514

>>231500
>if the CIA props up a group named "The Communist Party" and a bunch of multinationals give it money then suddenly every communist party BTFO
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 No.231522

>>231514
now you're just resorting to shitposting instead of making an actual argument

>defending CIA backed groups because of communist branding

the.absolute.state. of american "leftists"
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 No.231523

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>>231522
who the fuck here is "communist branded"?
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 No.231525

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>>231522
How did you get so illiterate?
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 No.231529

>>231523
>>231525
ahh yes again shitposts when you've ran out of an argument and can no longer defend racial politics
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 No.231530

antifa is just a cringe fest idk why any decent leftist would support them
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 No.231532

>>231530
america is a cringe fest
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 No.231535

>>231530
Bc MLs founded antifa obviously alot of radlibs are using the name but that doesnt really change what antifa really is
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 No.231540

>>231491
>moving goalposts
Im just using simple logic I know you anglo metaphysicians have some problems with that but you could try atleast
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 No.231550

>>231540
nope you are moving the goals posts rather then engaging with the subject at hand
you could at least try instead of your attempt at deflection
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 No.231555

>>231550
>deflecting
do you want to drop more big words big boy
I was explaining why companies react like they reacted
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 No.231562

>>231555
>do you want to drop more big words big boy
these are big words for you?
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but you've outted yourself as a retard
Anyways retard, engage with the argument or be ignored
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 No.231579

>>231562
Im not a monolingual like you american faggots
English is a third language for me and im still better at it than you
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 No.231583

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>>231496
>In the US they're the same thing
Not a burger but think this is 100% a lie.
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 No.231595

>>231579
>Im not a monolingual like you american faggots
>English is a third language for me and im still better at it than you
you get called a retard and suddenly you feel so insecure you need to talk about languages?

If you don't want to be a retard you could try engaging with the argument instead of deflecting, retard
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 No.231596

>>231583
Am a burger and I can confirm this is 100% the truth
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 No.231599

>>231595
I small your american fat through my screen faggot
Dreckige Schwuchtel
Fille des putes
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 No.231600

>>231599
Enage with my argument or stay retarded amischwein
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 No.231603

>>231599
well retard look at it this way

You can admit defeat in 3 different languages
hahahaha
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 No.231604

>>231603
I won you lost i dominated you you werent even able to make one argument
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 No.231606

>>231604
cope
you lost you werent even able to make one argument
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 No.231608

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>>231604
>I won you lost
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 No.231609

>>231606
Ill give you my agrument again respond to it
>did you expect Kellogs to say
>uyghur deserved it
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 No.231612

>>231609
and again that isn't an argument you're moving the goal posts
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 No.231614

>>231612
Respond to it
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 No.231615

>>231609
>trilinqual retard doesn't know what a non sequitur is
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 No.231618

>>231614
I did retard
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 No.231621

>>231618
Did you or did you not expect that to happen?
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 No.231622

>>231612
I'll explain for him because you are clearly struggling with filtering reality. There is a difference between PR and reality. You are obsessed with PR and basically the perfect consumer and useful idiot.
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 No.231624

>>231621
>Did you or did you not expect that to happen?

you outted yourself as a retard after failing to present an actual argument I didn't expect much honestly
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 No.231625

>>231624
your moving the goalpost
answer the question
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 No.231626

>>231622
then prove there is any divergence from their PR and reality
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 No.231629

>>231625
I did retard
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 No.231631

>>231626
I seriously can't be arsed. You think corporations care, they don't. You need to work on your critical thinking in a serious way.
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 No.231634

>>231629
So you expected that to happen and are now asshurt bc based Kollegs doesnt stand with Trumps ethnostate
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 No.231640

>>231631
>I seriously can't be arsed. You think corporations care, they don't. You need to work on your critical thinking in a serious way.

<makes claim

can you prove that?
<I seriously can't be arsed
ok well since you have fail to prove your claim there is no reason to believe it
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 No.231641

>>231634
lol trilingual retard deflects, moves goal posts and projects his own insecurities all in one post
hahahaah
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 No.231643

>>231640
This is the covid thread. And besides you need to make an effort yourself, I am not here to explain the difference between reality and fantasy to some illiterate lard.
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 No.231645

>>231641
I speak 5 languages not three
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 No.231647

>>231643
>This is the covid thread

<makes claim

can you prove that?
<I seriously can't be arsed
well sense you can't prove theres no reason to believe it
<THIS IS A COVID THREAD!!1
lmao you sound like a twitter blue checkmark

.And besides you need to make an effort yourself, I am not here to explain the difference between reality and fantasy to some illiterate lard
damn, we know you have nothing backing your claims you don't have to put your failure on blast
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 No.231652

>>231647
you sound demented
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 No.231659

>>231652
you sound like someone grasping at straws after they failed to prove their claims
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 No.231672

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Okay from what i've heard the pandemic in India has practically only just begun. Massive amounts of people are starting to run off to the Indian hinterland in order to get away from the collapsing situation in the cities, the problem with this is that it's effectively bringing the pandemic from the cities into the vast underdeveloped Indian hinterland that have little to no capacity to deal with the virus. So expect shit to go from bad to severely fucked up in India.
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 No.231675

I want everyone's opinion on this


If 2 people interact within a building for 5 minutes

>They are 7 feet apart

>Room is ventilated through a big window openening
>One person is wearing a mask
>Other person is not breathing through mouth or nose
<BUT the other person is not wearing a mask

What are the chances of contracting COVID assuming the person has COVID-19 and coughed?
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 No.231688

>>231675
The other person is actually a corpse if they aren't breathing. So the worst you can do is mess with a dead body and get nasty diseases.
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 No.231690

>>231675
probably 0
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 No.231693

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 No.231696

>>231688
Covid goes inside the body if you breathe in the air of covid particles
Not breathing temporarily is smart
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 No.232129

>>230804
>or he will start sperging out about "Fourth Industrial Revolution" shit
The thing that the bourgeoisie openly talk about? What's funny is that they frame it in Gramscian language as well. They understand class struggle and materialism better than the GLOWVID-19 "communists".
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 No.232541

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>>231402
I don't think the earth is flat, just that the moon landing was a hoax
I don't care about the details of your service to the antichrist, you're still a technocratic shill
tl;dr the rest
>>231428
>we could make a serious step forward as a society if the state would administer death to those who put their own perverse enjoyment above the well-being and physical safety of people.
you mean the people masturbating over how virtuous they are for supporting homicidal lockdowns and the great reset?
>>231475
I mean kellog was an anti-masturbation pro-gential mutilation advocate I'm kinda surprised they didn't desu
>>231675
masks don't work and covid travels 60 feet inside but if the uninfected person has appreciable vitamin d levels getting the sniffles is the worst that will happen
>>232129
leninhat based as always
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 No.232550

>>231672
Heard from who? And what's the update on Indian strain from Britain?
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 No.232564

Disp ("Any new variant?" )

IF New variant=1
Disp ("Interesting, does it fuck up vaccines?")
Else
Disp ("Nothingburger")
End

My take on this whole thread
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 No.232568

>>232550
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/covid-second-wave-rural-india-coronavirus-cases-7306422/
compared to the last wave cases have quadrupled in the rural areas
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1390438410729500676
and reporters are saying that is most likely due to mass flight to the hinterland
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 No.232603

File: 1620523983901.png (22.35 KB, 1010x84, Screen Shot 2021-05-08 at ….png)

INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +409,300

Deaths Today: +4,133
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 No.232642

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 No.232862

>>232603
Fuck, it's not getting better.
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 No.232924

>>232862
Those number were covered up, and are lower by a factor of 10. It's probably 25 by now.
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 No.232926

>>232541
>anime
>religion
>leninhat based

post discarded
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 No.232938

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Vaxxedchads where we at??
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 No.232983

>>232938
You got both the doses?
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 No.232985

>>232938
VAXXCHADS RISEUP!
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 No.232986

>>232938
It's over for COVIDcels
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 No.233238

>>232926
cope atheoid
>>232938
imagine willingly having sex with a vaccinated person lmao. I don't want you to ejaculate your spike protein bioweapon inside of me thanks
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 No.233438

>>232938
>being this scared of the flu
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 No.233833

>>232541
>the great reset
>the people who already control everything will take away the power from themselves to give to themselves
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 No.233908

>>233823
Kulak action! Based!
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 No.234062

>>232603
<Real numbers are 10x that
Can't make this shit up
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 No.234116

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 No.234331

>>234116
No I'm not getting the vaccine because its not worth my time I also don't want to have days of a sore arm
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 No.234502

>>234116
>the vaccine is just like McDonalds
They're trying their hardest to sway americans
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 No.235151

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +366,499

Deaths Today: +3,748
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 No.235278

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 No.235281

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 No.235283

>>235281
why is it 4x5 instead of 5x5
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 No.235305

>>235283
Its a conspiracy, obviously
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 No.235318

What, how dare they lie, the 5G towers were supposed to turn everyone gay
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 No.235427

>>235281
>red flag
you mean false flag? this chart is shit, you can't even get our lingo right lol
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 No.235792

bump

>US passes emergency waiver over fuel pipeline cyber-attack

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57050690

"cyber pandemic" time?
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 No.235839

>>235792
>Fuel tanks on the streets
Literally firebombs waiting to go off
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 No.235986

>>235278
most of phrase 3 is correct though
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 No.235987

>>235281
>>235278
Funny how US party politics has gotten "leftists" defending the bourgeois and neoliberalism
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 No.236059

>>235987
Funny how the same thing has got you basically attacking Cuba or China for fighting the virus. Burgers like you who think the entire world is the West are fuckign retarded and unironically need to read a fucking book or just kill yourself now to avoid being dead weight
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 No.236118

>>236059
>Funny how the same thing has got you basically attacking Cuba or China for
.t my ass

but it hasn't so you've started out profoundly incorrect

>Burgers like you who think the entire world is the West are fuckign retarded and unironically need to read a fucking book or just kill yourself now to avoid being dead weight


ok? cry about it i guess
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 No.236159

Sharma Oli has redacted an article for The Guardian about the Covid crisis in Nepal
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/10/nepal-covid-uk-g7

<Nepal is being overwhelmed by Covid. We need help


As I write this, my country is battling a new and brutal wave of the Covid-19 pandemic. The rise in the number of infections poses a serious challenge to our brave doctors, nurses, other care providers, citizen volunteers and the entire health service system.

Nepal’s history is one of hardship and struggle, yet this pandemic is pushing even us to our limits. The number of infections is straining the healthcare system; it has become tough to provide patients with the hospital beds that they need.

The infection graph is climbing up and so is the rate of people testing positive. There have been about 8,000 new cases every day for the past several days, which is quite high for a country of approximately 30 million people. Even though our mortality rate is relatively low, every one of the 3,720 lives that, at the time of writing, we have lost to the pandemic is precious for us.

My government is making the best possible efforts on both fronts – prevention and treatment – to save people from this lethal enemy. Well-calibrated restrictions are in place, particularly in urban areas, aimed at breaking the chain of infection, and public awareness campaigns are continuing. We have tried to make sure that those needing interventions such as oxygen support and ICU care get access to the treatment they need. We have taken measures to expand the testing, tracing and treatment facilities.

But due to the constraints of resources and infrastructure, the pandemic is turning out to be an overwhelming burden. I have, therefore, appealed to the international community to help us with vaccines, diagnostic tools, oxygen kits, critical care medicines and equipment, to support our efforts to save lives. Our urgent goal is to stop preventable deaths occurring.

When it comes to the United Kingdom, our expectation of solidarity is high at this difficult time, given the close historical ties that we have nurtured. We are nations thousands of miles apart, yet our bonds are strong and deep. These bonds are further reinforced by robust connections between people. After all, we are living in an interconnected and interlinked world; this disease affects everyone. Nobody is safe until everyone is safe.

This pandemic has highlighted once again the vast gulf between the rich and poor worlds. This gap should be minimised by making the vaccines, therapeutics and diagnostics more accessible to all. Billions of people in the global south still do not know when the Covid-19 vaccine will be made available to them. Solidarity with these nations is essential.

As the current chair of the G7, and a champion of human welfare, the UK is in a position to play an important role in generating international support. Nepal has faith that Britain will use its influence to ensure that the G7 accelerates the deployment of vaccines around the world, especially to the countries that need them most urgently.

My country also hopes that the UK, as the host of Cop26, will push hard for an ambitious climate deal later this year – a deal that should contain financial support and capacity-building for climate-vulnerable countries at its core. The presence of the Himalayas, which are experiencing glacial melting that can trigger floods, makes Nepal one of the countries bearing a disproportionate brunt of climate change through no fault of its own. The pandemic has compelled us to postpone Sagarmatha Sambaad, a flagship dialogue forum named after Mount Everest, which would have focused on climate change and mountains.

Our sherpas are known for sharing their oxygen with struggling climbers at high altitude. Today, Covid-19 is leaving our country breathless and so we are looking for the “sherpas” of the international community. We are pleading with our friends around the world to urgently provide us with essential medical items, life-saving drugs and vaccines. The only way out of these twin challenges – climate change and the pandemic – is solidarity. The only way out is fighting together, as a global family.
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 No.236161

>>236159
Looks like the chinese and/or indian help isn' enough
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 No.236248

<https://twitter.com/i/events/1391701565552041995

WHAT THE FUCK WAHT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK FWHAT THE FUCK
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 No.236254

>>235987
>Irony: The post
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 No.236257

>>236248
>black fungus found in covid patients
My god, the level to which the pajeets refuse to poo in the loo is astounding
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 No.236261

>>236248
lmao leave it to india to manage to make the situation worse somehow
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 No.236270

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>>236257
>le epic pol meme on the lefty/pol/
BASED
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 No.238577

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +329,517

Deaths Today: +3,879
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 No.239435

I feel like we will get some interesting essays about how covid, the lockdown and countless astroturfs and pysops worked in tandem to drive the American right wing totally fucking crazy. The timeline as I remember it:
>Right wingers were the first to panic over covid, started /cvg/ on /pol/ where they were convinced it was airborne AIDS that spread like the common cold. Those who were not panicking and prepping were viewed as idiot liberals who fell for the Chinese psyop hiding their goal of exterminating the west.
>A few months later, we see some American companies astroturf anti-lockdown/anti-mask campaigns because they want their businesses back open. At this point the culture war totally flips and we see right wingers become lockdown skeptics/covid deniers/calling masks a form of satanic humiliation while liberals become increasingly terrified about the virus after calling it "just a flu" for months. This is the most important sea change imo, at this point the right wing train derails away from the previous narrative that hyped up covid in order to make them hate China.
>Bill Gates microchip/5G/mark of the beast/vaccine passport thing goes around, vaxx skepticism starts becoming mainstream among the right.
>Floyd protests convince them that there is an anarcho-tyranny conspiracy going on where the state wants to make conservatives second class citizens with covid as the excuse.
>Over the summer, the WEF great reset meme, "YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY" essay and the "eat bugs/vegetarian" idea peddled by some environmentalists merge into the now dominant theory among conservatives where liberal elites are conspiring to make everybody an anemic vegan or bug eating subhuman that lives in a pod and is controlled by covid restrictions.
>Trump's loss causes a total psychological break and all trust in burger institutions is lost among American right wingers.
>Capitol riot makes all the neocons cream themselves and they start publicly masturbating to the idea of more security legislature to punish MAGAs, right wing gets even more paranoid.
>Vaccines release, the right wing has now become full-on antivaxxer from top to bottom. New theories about the vaccines form daily on /pol/ and spread to the boomers and soccer moms from there (current thing: vaccines cause prion diseases and protein shedding will cause the prions to spread by air).
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 No.239451

I won't vaccinate.
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 No.239605

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>>239435
>American right wing totally fucking crazy
if you are looking at just conservative Americans' response you're a liberal playing party politics
the typical big city/suburban democrat's hyper paranoia to covid out crazies anyone else in the country
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 No.239619

>>239605
American libs have also lost the plot, but they didn't lose it in an interesting way. They just really REALLY love the thrill of scolding people, signalling their love of credentialism and feeling like they're good people when they stay home and get some wageslave to deliver pad thai. They want to drag the pandemic out forever because they do not feel the economic impact because they can easily work from home. In fact, it is even materially beneficial to them because it gives them an opportunity to buy property while everyone else is down. I don't think they've been prodded into total psychosis by glowies and corporations the way the right wingers have.
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 No.239634

>>239619
>I don't think they've been prodded into total psychosis by glowies and corporations the way the right wingers have.

No the liberal psychosis is much worse, they are completely deranged
meanwhile conservatives just leave the city
It sounds like you're writing fanfic from Rachel maddow if you really believe that is the world we're living in
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 No.239655

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 No.239660

>>239435
>>Right wingers were the first to panic over covid, started /cvg/ on /pol/ where they were convinced it was airborne AIDS that spread like the common cold. Those who were not panicking and prepping were viewed as idiot liberals who fell for the Chinese psyop hiding their goal of exterminating the west.
And Democrats ignored it,

https://abc7news.com/sf-chinatown-pelosi-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears/5964696/
Coronavirus concerns: Speaker Pelosi tours San Francisco's Chinatown to show it's safe

then they switched when one side could profit from it
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 No.239661

>>239655
lol at all the "leftists" who voted biden
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 No.239690

>>239660
Yes, I mentioned this.
Right wingers were the first to panic about covid. Right wing spaces were full of panic about covid being a Chinese bioweapon meant to kill everyone, and that liberals were in on it because they were secret China supporters. Then in March the lockdowns started. They were briefly in agreement about the virus being dangerous, but they started to drift apart because petty-booj was starting to lose money. A big anti-lockdown/covid denial astroturf spun up and covid was henceforth a culture war issue instead of a material one.
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 No.239714

File: 1620753442856.jpeg (89.38 KB, 780x519, India Covid Cremations.jpeg)

India most likely seeing 25k-50k deaths from covid a day due to the 2nd wave judging by crematorium data
https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1391238136219512833
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 No.239743

>>239690
>They were briefly in agreement about the virus being dangerous, but they started to drift apart because petty-booj was starting to lose money
they drifted apart because the virus was over hyped and the lockdowns were just an excuse to filter money to big tech companies who are almost all business democrats
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 No.239784

Do you think the right wing antivaxx thing would be this huge if Trump hadn't lost? Would liberal antivaxxing be popular in this situation or no?
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 No.239789

>>239435
4/pol/ is mostly on the train of it being a bioweapon made by china the last time I checked
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 No.239853

>>239784
I'm sure liberals would be the ones that are skeptical, but otherwise, no. Remember Trump supporters making a Walking Dead impression? That was from April 2020
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 No.239911

>>239784
democrats turned masks and vaxx selfies into an identity so it probably wouldn't effect much for the corona virus
but lets not pretend that its liberal suburanites who are the ones doing Ayurveda, crystals, and sound baths
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 No.241554

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +348,529

Deaths Today: +4,200
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 No.241602

>>241128
it all falls under the umbrella of rejection of modern medicine
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 No.242100

>Hundreds if not thousand of bodies reportadly being dumped / buried in the Ganges, Unknown if authorities are testing them for Covid or if they are being tallied into death statistics.

https://dailyprogress.com/news/world/scores-of-dead-bodies-found-floating-in-indias-ganges-river/article_681c181f-8297-521d-a58a-07b00988bc37.html
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 No.244006

>Sage is reportedly holding an urgent meeting tomorrow to discuss a "dramatic rise" in cases of the "Indian variant," final lifting of lockdown in the UK could be delayed beyond 21 June

APOLOGIZE
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 No.245385

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

Very important article! There is objectively no reason to believe the wet market theory!
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 No.245576

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 No.245589

>>245576
TLDR: The lab theory is still on the table.
The Wall Street journal also commented the article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-fauci-and-the-origins-of-covid-11620419989
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 No.245604

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 No.245611

>>245604
You posted this meme already in another thread. Next time, deliver an argument.
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 No.245660

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>>245611
>Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases funded coronavirus research that included work at China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology.
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 No.245702

>>245385
being a lab virus (still not proven despite the massive wall of text) doesn't change the fact that the west could've stopped it but simply decided not to do it unlike the prc
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 No.245707

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>>245589

The WSJ is citing the article from
>>245385
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/


Behold the author:
Nicholas Wade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Wade


>In 2014, Wade released A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History, in which he argued that human evolution has been "recent, copious, and regional" and that genes may have influenced a variety of behaviours that underpin differing forms of human society. The book was criticised in the New York Times Book Review of Sunday 13 July; David Dobbs wrote that it was "a deeply flawed, deceptive, and dangerous book" with "pernicious conceits". Libertarian political scientist Charles Murray, co-author of The Bell Curve, praised it as scientifically valid, and predicted that opposition would be "fanatical" due to political correctness.[13]


>Over a hundred geneticists and biologists categorically dismissed Wade's view of race in a joint letter published in The New York Times on 8 August 2014:


<Wade juxtaposes an incomplete and inaccurate account of our research on human genetic differences with speculation that recent natural selection has led to worldwide <differences in Intelligence quotient (IQ) test results, political institutions and economic development. We reject Wade's implication that our findings substantiate his <guesswork.[14]


>Other scientists argued that Wade had misrepresented their research.[15]


>Other books on human evolution by Wade include Before the Dawn: Recovering the Lost History of Our Ancestors (2006), about what Wade has called the "two vanished periods" in human development, and The Faith Instinct (2009), about the evolution of religious behavior.[citation needed]



His /pol/yp "race realism" book
A Troublesome Inheritance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Troublesome_Inheritance

>Wade writes about racial differences in economic success between whites, blacks, and East Asians, and offers the argument that racial differences come from genetic differences amplified by culture. In the first part of the book, Wade provides an account of human genetics research. In the second part of his book, Wade proposes that regional differences in evolution of social behavior explain many differences among different human societies around the world.[13]


And an excerpt from the chapter titled

JEWISH ADAPTATIONS
>From a glance at an Eskimo’s physique, it is easy to recognize an evolutionary process at work that has molded the human form for better survival in an arctic >environment. Populations that live at high altitudes, like Tibetans, represent another adaptation to extreme environments; in this case, the changes in blood cell regulation >are less visible but have been identified genetically. The adaptation of Jews to capitalism is another such evolutionary process, though harder to recognize because the >niche to which Jews are adapted is one that has required a behavioral change, not a physical one.
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 No.245741

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INDIA UPDATE

official statistics report the following

Cases Today: +362,406

Deaths Today: +4,126
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 No.245975

>>245707
>niche to which Jews are adapted is one that has required a behavioral change, not a physical one.
they mutilate their own genitals tho
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 No.245980

Ohio Governor Mike DeWine says the state will give $1 million to 5 "randomly-selected people" who get vaccinated against COVID-19 (BNO)
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 No.245993

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 No.248029

People here hate western media, so here is a asian perspective on Covid.
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 No.248116

Biden and CDC say fully vaccinated people no longer need masks. American liberals are still insisting that they be worn (almost certainly for culture war reasons).
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 No.248132

>>248116
The same reason, why libs categorically reject the lab theory, just because "Trump said it". COVID is extremely politicized.
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 No.248167

>>248116
The culture war shit around covid is pretty disturbing. The anti-scientific lib identity constructed around it is a major part in vaccine hesitancy; why even bother if you can't even take the mask off while taking a walk? And of course opposition to vaccinations and medical personnel has become ascendant in right wing politics now. Imagine if the US had an outbreak of ebola or some other nightmare disease.
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 No.248249

So how will anyone prove they're vaccinated? What's stopping most people, namely rightoids, from just no longer wearing masks and stomping their feet when someone tells them to wear one?
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 No.248256

>>248249
vaccine passports I guess
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 No.248261

>>245707
good post anon
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 No.248269

>>248249
they give you a card when you get your shot(s), although they are easily forged
although frankly the anti-mask/anti-vaxx people love to tell people about it
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 No.248273

>>239690
> A big anti-lockdown/covid denial astroturf spun up and covid was henceforth a culture war issue instead of a material one.

Courtesy Betsy DeVos don't forget
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 No.248291

>>248261
Yees good post. Instead of engaging with the arguments the author made, let's attack him personally, for the stupid stuff he did in the past. People here are ready to defend Dugin and Khamenei, just because they are in the "anti imperialist" camp, while denouncing a scientist like Wade for pointing out, how flawed the wet market narrative is. You don't give a fuck about the truth. It's just all campism for you.
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 No.248451

>>248291
I agree with you but you gotta understand there are people here who take Grover Furr seriously. Just ignore them

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