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The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread


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Pandemics usually take around four or five years to "pass." The massive populations where COVID is fully endemic, and yet is still spreading due to non-sterilizing vaccines provide an enormous breeding ground for variants to continue to spread. The longer it goes on the longer we continue to roll dice on how the virus mutates and what kind of characteristics it takes on. I'm expecting another major variant before the middle of the year and we'll still be shrugging our shoulders about it complaining about not being able to go to restaurants.

If there's a real threat to China from COVID it's probably that all the supply chain logistics between China and their international markets are turbo fucked which makes onshoring more attractive than it has been for decades. But then you have to balance avoiding being turbo fucked at the port of Los Angeles because everyone was sick and the port is backlogged against being turbo fucked at your factory in Ohio because everyone is out sick and the factory had to go on reduced shifts.


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that's not a new covid variant, that's a new coronavirus


Shit is getting real


How so? it's a new coronavirus in animals, has literally nothing to do with covid except for the fact that covid is caused by a human coronavirus.


I'm sitting in a packed parking lot right now, of a restaurant filled with maskless dipshits, as I wait to pick up some other asshole's fucking quesadillas. I hope all these stupid fucking cunts get the rona and die.


>Can you remove your spike proteins.
How big do these people THINK molecular proteins are?
Like isn't 'Spike protein' just the thing that tricks your immune system or whatever into thinking you had coof?


Why so scared? Are you vaccinated?
You’ll be fine, grow up
Your own goddamn fault


You can still die or get permanent damage if you're vaxxed


More statistically unlikely than dying in the car you drove there. Stop being a little whiny baby. You can take the mask off.


>stop being a crybaby and let your organs and immune system get permanently fucked dumb prole, you need to consoom


I haven't worn a mask once in 2022. I plan continuing this to the day I die.


Pointless battle but if it gives you purpose, go for it.
I was vaxxed with Pfizer and JJ. I was planning on getting vaxxed with sinovac or abdala but then I got covid. Now I am being pressured to take the booster. Covid really kicked my ass and I'm still recovering. I don't want to take the booster until at least a month or two. I have no idea how my body will react….



Reminder to take a healthy dose of sunlight every day.
Big city fags and north pole dwellers get fucked kek.


I'm not an expert but from what I've been reading, not getting a booster at this stage might be the better idea. It looks like part of what makes covid so bad is its heavy toll on your immune system, namely the exhaustion of "naive t cells", which is being correlated with a spike in cancer diagnoses. So if you got covid recently, your immune system is probably still recovering. What's more, it looks like the covid boosters provide only a few weeks of increased immunity to omicron and its related variants, so you're risking heaping more trouble on an already taxed immune system via a vaccine that doesn't prevent infection in the first place.


commentary: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/01/links-1-29-2022.html

>This week, the U.K. agency estimated that, for people at least two weeks out from their booster shot, vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease was 63% against BA.1, versus 70% for BA.2.”

>While that might suggest that BA.2 is less of a threat to vaccine protection than its Omicron sister, the full estimate ranges overlapped.

>That makes it sound as if:

>1. VE reaches a constant value after 2 weeks, never to decline. In reality it goes down to below 50% in mere weeks

>2. 60-70% against symptoms (never mind infection) is somehow good

<And Ignacio:

>This indicates how low has come the bar for vaccine efficiency. A few weeks of some protection, without avoiding infection must be considered great performance and justify massive idiotic jabs…

>Such a poor result, from the epidemiological point of view does not sustain massive jabbing. Only voluntary jabs for those that perceive themselves at highest risk and cancelling any vaccine certificate scheme.

>The damage you are doing with massive jabs is higher than benefits even if we do not consider rare adverse effects.


I was boosted and I got covid and it wasn't that bad. Get boosted friends. Yes you will have to take three per year for the time being. Novavax might fix that eventually


>The anecdotal fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone argues on the basis of anecdotal evidence. It’s an extremely common type of error found in a wide variety of arguments. Moreover, it is often committed due to a lack of argumentation skills.


You can have the epic argument, I'll settle for the easier covid infection


>only 3 per year
ok fash


I don't think the 3 per year is necessary. I say this because most people take a vaccine or booster maybe once a year? If they have health insurance and get regular checkups. I used to get one booster a year when I was younger, 3 is only for those with relatively weak immune systems. Most of the time when it comes to flu you just need one booster and that can carry you for most of your life, if you're not constantly traveling that is.

In any case yes get boosted but you don't need 3 boosters a year.


Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021

Fresh study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346


Trouble is, to go anywhere here you need the booster or the vaxx and a test. I guess I'll keep doing tests whenever I go out for a month more at least…
Fuck the west ffs.


What the fuck is this Jama website. Don't click this shit my phone literally went crazy and I had to use a back up phone. That link is a phish site.



>Among the 1372 reports of myocarditis in persons younger than 30 years of age, 1305 were able to be adjudicated, with 92% (1195/1305) meeting the CDC’s case definition.
>Intensive therapies such as vasoactive medications (12 cases of myocarditis) and intubation or mechanical ventilation (2 cases) were rare. There were no verified cases of myocarditis requiring a heart transplant, extracorporeal membrane oxygenation, or a ventricular assist device.
nothing burger


>lmao just get myocardities it's gonna be mild
Fuck off. I finally got Omicron two weeks ago so I am escaping the vaccine mandate for now, didn't even have symptoms, I am unvaccinated. Fuck your fucking booster, I am not gonna take that risk.

Also the study itself said that there is probably underreporting.


>just get myocardities
statistically it's very unlikely you'd get it from the vax, and even less likely to get any serious injury out of it

just another nothing burger amplified by a million times by antivax schizos


I promise you that you will be shot by the red brigades when the revolution happens. You will be vaccinated by force if not you will be executed as an enemy and danger to the people. Libertarianism is a mental illness and is nothing but children wanting to live in fantasy land. Do not pretend to be a communist my friend because you most certainly aren't one and be glad you can spout your anti-vaxx crap online cuz I believe anyone who talks that shit aloud needs to get their teeth knocked out.


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Still not taking it, that it is "less likely" I'd get serious injury is not enough of a guarantee to take an experimental mRNA injection.

Again: 8000 dead through the vaccine in Europe.


You can replicate web addresses to phish for IPs. Don't tell me what you think you know because I know this stuff.


It's the correct website.


rightoid brainworms
you're more likely to get myocarditis from covid than from the vax


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Data increasingly contradicts that.


It does not.


>more data about how covid shreds your t cell system
everyone who caught covid more than once is gonna die from a basic bacterial or viral infection


oh jeez, I just hope the economy will be ok



You are an anti-communist.


Why do you fantasise about going around injecting proletarians who don't want to be vaccinated?




Why are you politicizing mandates for pandemics? If the forest is on fire and it requires a village to all contribute to put out the fire, but if the villagers are non-compliant because they don't think the fire will burn down their houses or affect them in any way what do you do then to save the village?

Do not politicize common sense to protect the village, in this case the nation. Vaccines are just taking care of the nation in the macro scale and politicizing vaccines and pandemics is something only the ruling class and bourgeoisie engage in. It's the interest of the liberal to politicize the most common sense thing. Giving your grain to the state during time of crisis like a famine is a necessary collective action for the survival of all those affected, there is no politics, just survival.

Anti-vaxxers are grain hoarders, the Kulak, the liberal that will politicize common sense survival against the interest of the collective.


Notice how when covid started the numbers fell bellow previous trendline. Of course it's not because people became healthier, but because hospitals were deprioritizing normal work. As soon as people got vaxed, hospitalisations for covid dropped and hospitals had room again, so a backlog was processed.


Because the vaccines don't stop spread. If they did it would be different but they don't. Taking care of the nation on a macro scale would be using taxes to create infrastructure jobs building public hospitals that are capable of dealing with increased caseloads and subsidizing training for medical and science professionals with free education as well as revoking private intellectual property rights for publicly funded vaccines and publishing all the data with absolute transparency,

and then converting parts of the military and expanding the army corps of engineers to build free production facilities in the third world in order to stop novel variants, and then also cleaning up factory farms and creating regulations on the use of antibiotics and vaccines in food production. And that would only be the beginning of a start to properly address the real cause of zoonotic disease, which climate change and is something that will have to be addressed collectively because industrialization, urbanization and population growth are necessary steps in human advancement and no nation, just like no person, is an island.

The insurance cartels are holding a gun to our collective heads and saying "no healthcare unless you behave" and then when you do what you are told they pull the trigger anyway loot your body, take your house if you have one, throw your family on the street in a pandemic, and then send them a bill for the bullet. They are directly profiting from the deaths of millions. Don't try to depoliticize class warfare.


What the fuck am I reading? am I in a leftist board right now or no?

How is the handling of a pandemic not political in nature? how is government-mandated medical intervention somehow not political?

What happened to /leftypol/?


Influx of all flavours of retards, from Plebbit liberals, to /pol/ nazis, and everything in between.

Report and move on.


Oh yeah, and Twitter schizos.




>Do not politicize common sense
Common sense is deeply political lmao.
>protect the village,
The state of exception is permanent. There is no "protecting the village". It's at best blackmail. Get the vaxx and go back to work or risk dying of the corona or hunger.


"We had to destroy the village in order to to save it."


Covid Situation Continuing to Develop Not Necessarily to the Officialdom’s Advantage

>It is both bizarre and telling to see evidence of increased intensity in enforcing the Panglossian “Shut up and get your vax, and you will be safe in the face of our ‘let ‘er rip’ policies,” even as more evidence comes in raising doubts about their wisdom and cost.

>The wee problem is that emerging information continues to reinforce the idea that the West lacks choices it likes with respect to Covid. That is particularly hard to accept in our insistently optimistic, tech and expert obsessed culture, which has been reinforced by rule by MBA. A diseased managerialism has taken hold (our Clive reports that it’s even more pronounced in the UK) where if someone dares tell the higher-ups that there’s no way what they want can happen, they will suffer career harm for not being clever enough. he person who promised what can’t be delivered, and is good at finding scapegoats and excuses, will rise.

>So in addition to demonizing just about everyone who isn’t enthusiastically on board with the “Go son, and get your vaccine, and resume your pre-Covid life” program (the “scapegoating” part), one of the common “excuse” reflexes is to depict the end of Covid as just around the corner. Unfortunately, so many people are engaged in this sort of behavior that it can’t be pinned on a single source, as the Friedman unit was.1

>But it appears that the path the West has chosen, of focusing on vaccines and almost completely abandoning other ways to reduce contagion (everything from good masks to CO2 monitors at stores showing that they are not overcrowded relative to their ventilation level, and *gah* realistic quarantines, particularly at the border), we’re now seeing vaccines falling well short of their promise as more and more evidence accumulates of what scientist GM warned about from early on: that getting Covid is likely to do damage, even in supposedly mild cases. And because most people are going to get Covid multiple times, even assuming >90% effective vaccines and perfect compliance with boosters, there’s reason to worry that damage will compound.

>Yes, we might get lucky and have Covid mutate into something really tame, but betting on luck is not a great way to manage public health.

continues at link



>On Tuesday, EMA [European Medicines Agency] vaccine strategy chief Marco Cavaleri said there was still no data supporting the need for a fourth COVID vaccine dose. And even if multiple boosters do prove to be necessary, they would need to be spaced out in the style of annual flu jabs, rather than delivered every several months. He also warned that overly frequent booster doses could potentially lead to “problems with immune response.”

>“While use of additional boosters can be part of contingency plans, repeated vaccinations within short intervals would not represent a sustainable long-term strategy,” Cavaleri said at a media briefing. He also said boosters “can be done once, or maybe twice, but it’s not something that we can think should be repeated constantly.”

America is screwed


Immunologist Dr. Anthony Leonardi speaks on Long COVID and the dangers posed by SARS-CoV-2

>Dr. Leonardi, who has opposed unsafe school reopening, recently spoke at the World Health Network Summit outlining the dangers posed to children. In response to the dangers posed by in-class instruction, he responded, “There’s publication that lists a lowered productive lifespan in kids, and it’s more of an attenuation in kids than adults. So, it’s a bad idea. We’re setting kids up to have chronic illness.”


>I think Long COVID is going to be as diverse a problem as cancer. It’s hard to define, because, like cancers, they present as a very different spectrum of diseases depending on where they are and where they came from. Long COVID, I would say, for an easy definition, is a persistent sequela of SARS-COV-2 infection….

>And not only that, but the immune system also goes haywire.

>Now, the immune system is responsible for going into all the tissues in the body, except for a few immune-privileged sites. But SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t respect the immune-privileged site whatsoever. It brings T-cells into the brain. So, we can see the impact of the infection across every physiological system. Because if it distorts the immune system and the immune system is responsible for patrolling the body everywhere, then there are going to be problems everywhere.


covids been around for 2 years now and people are getting tired of it.
sounds like its just another annual flu


sing yourself another lullaby you dumb asshole


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Kowa claims ivermectin has shown "antiviral effects" against Omicron and other variants of the coronavirus in joint nonclinical research in collaboration with Kitasato University


Why should I take the vaccine as a young person if the deathrate for my age is literally 0.00005%. Only 3500 people in their 20s died from covid and those were mostly obese/diabetes. Along with this we know you still carry and get Covid if you have the vaccine so what's the fucking point. I got Covid twice and I didn't even know it.


>Why should I take the vaccine as a young person
Makes money for Pfizer.


There are other potential outcomes aside from outright death. Severely diminished lung capacity is just one other possible outcome. Recent evidence indicates that covid severely fucks up your entire immune system, which even if it successfully fights off covid, it not only exhausts your immune system but might even be responsible for reactivating dormant infections already in your body. The Blood Brain Barrier is also no impediment to covid and has been demonstrably linked to brain damage, brain spongefication, and lewy body dementia. That's just currently. Covid has demonstrated a significant tendency to mutate, and even pick up traits from other viruses in the infected, and the trajectory it's on now points to it getting worse over time.

And that's just covid itself. It isn't like you can only get one infection at a time, or even only one strain of covid at a time. It's in your best interest to layer protection if only to keep yourself out of the hospital during this pandemic, especially if you're in a shithole like the US, because the ongoing crisis and successive spikes in infections are devastating the hospital system. You've been insulated your entire life from how devastating even common infections like the flu can be because of the general availability of modern medicine and hospital care. Hospital staff are more overworked than ever, hospitals are buckling under the number of patients, and supply chain issues are becoming an increasingly significant problem. So imaging you don't even get sick, but you're in an accident or something, broken leg, you need stitches, whatever. Then you have to wait 18 hours in a hospital full of coughing, sneezing, hacking patients with god knows what, to see a medical intern that's been on their feet for 72 hours, are being forced to work even though they're infected because the cdc said it's okay, only to be told that you can't get pain killers for your leg because the factory that makes it is in India and shipping is backed up for two weeks, so bite down on this, and hold on.

So I dunno man, you're not afraid of dying from covid? Whatever. It's not like polio killed everyone out infected either. I'm old enough that as a kid I had family members, cousins that survived polio before the vaccine was available. Their bodies were twisted and they had debilitating health complications their entire lives. Keep that in mind, and keep in mind how capitalism treats people it considers burdens. There are so many worse things than dying, and things haven't even gotten bad yet.


What are the percentage of people with these side effects under 30 and does it also happen with a vaccine? Do you have this data? Again me and every I know didn't even know we had Covid. My lifting and running numbers are the same. I guarantee this shit is only for people with preexisting conditions.


Jimmy Dore sure pushing that lab leak shit hard the last few months.


>I'm old enough that as a kid I had family members, cousins that survived polio

Are you over 70?



Calling it covid at this point is really a misnomer, it's more like covids. Catching it once isn't a guarantee that you won't catch any of the current or likely future variants again. If you're dead set on not getting the vaccine, whatever, because the data seems to be that these vaccines which were somewhat effective against alpha/beta/delta have severely diminished capacity against omicron. Now there's B.A.1 and B.A.2 so who knows what's up with that.

If you want data go to https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/ and look in the daily links and water cooler threads. There's evidence for and against the vaccines and boosters and there are regular commentators that go into the analysis of the studies and talk about the practical effects on the ground. They also frequently link to experts on twitter, like Eric Feigl Ding and a couple turkish broads whose names I can't remember that also break down various covid related studies and data.


Considering the death rate of CoVID is only marginally higher than for influenza, I assume it's basically like a flu. You can also have long-term effects from the flu ("long influenza"), if you are fat as fuck or have asthma.


>Considering the death rate of CoVID is only marginally higher than for influenza, I assume it's basically like a flu
Dogs are cats because they both have four feet a tail and fur



>Post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 (PASC) represent an emerging global crisis. However, quantifiable risk-factors for PASC and their biological associations are poorly resolved. We executed a deep multi-omic, longitudinal investigation of 309 COVID-19 patients from initial diagnosis to convalescence (2-3 months later), integrated with clinical data, and patient-reported symptoms. We resolved four PASC-anticipating risk factors at the time of initial COVID-19 diagnosis: type 2 diabetes, SARS-CoV-2 RNAemia, Epstein-Barr virus viremia, and specific autoantibodies. In patients with gastrointestinal PASC, SARS-CoV-2-specific and CMV-specific CD8+ T cells exhibited unique dynamics during recovery from COVID-19. Analysis of symptom-associated immunological signatures revealed coordinated immunity polarization into four endotypes exhibiting divergent acute severity and PASC. We find that immunological associations between PASC factors diminish over time leading to distinct convalescent immune states. Detectability of most PASC factors at COVID-19 diagnosis emphasizes the importance of early disease measurements for understanding emergent chronic conditions and suggests PASC treatment strategies.



>As I noted yesterday, there has been a rising tide of ‘we need to live with COVID’ articles, which are full of vague statements, such as what is an acceptable level of it (often incorrectly referred to as endemism). As some asshole with a blog noted a few weeks before Omicron blew up*:

<Over the last couple of weeks, there have been several articles discussing COVID ‘off ramps’, that is, when and how will we decide to (start to) return to ‘normal.’ What I find depressing about most of these articles is that most seem to have not learned a damn thing over the last twenty months. We need an approach grounded, not in some pundit’s instincts–because that worked really well when too many of them were acting as if the pandemic was over in March and April 2021–but in what is an acceptable level of disease. And we need good metrics for that acceptable level so we can have clear guidelines.

<For me, there are two metrics we should be using: the percentage of the total population that is vaccinated, and the prevalence of infections (i.e., how many people are infected).

<…we shouldn’t really consider lowering our guard until 85% of the entire population is fully vaccinated.

<So if we were to set a prevalence level of 1-2 new cases per 100,000 people per day, that would be good.

>I described in that post how I reached those estimates. Importantly, I described what I thought would be an acceptable disease burden–and that included long COVID (which, if published reports are believed to true, the Biden White House isn’t even factoring into its analyses**). But Thinky Thought Leaders, Substack Bois et alia need to stop talking in generalities–something they would never do, for example, regarding economic issues–and start owning their own propaganda.

>What is the acceptable amount of illness? What is an acceptable number of long COVID cases? What is an acceptable number of deaths? Regarding the latter, in D.C., over the last month, 21% of deaths were among the vaccinated. That doesn’t mean vaccination is bad, but there are vulnerable people and what is the acceptable price in their lives?

>Admittedly, most Thinky Thought Leaders and Substack Bois are numerically illiterate in so many ways and would have a hard time doing this, but they really need to own their shit, and start talking about how much American Carnage is acceptable.

>Though they should probably wait a few weeks.

>*Though we were already starting to lose control of Delta.

>**I would argue the primary concern for those who can afford to miss work is long COVID, which as best as I can tell, occurs in around one percent of vaccinated people. Again, if off-the-record reporting is correct, many in the White House think we’re ninnies to worry about this (and for the love of God, why are they listening to David Fucking Leonhardt?).


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he knows what really happened, pic related


We're at the beginning of the Biden Administrations new offensive against the virus. Their plan is

1. Do nothing to stop it
2. Tell people to get vacced/boosted
3. Step up the propaganda war to try and make people accept living with the virus

So if you see an uptick in "nothing will stop the virus so let's not take any measures to protect people" articles and posts that is why.


>Will do nothing but if that doesn't work it the fault of the antivaxxers, which we did not create. If there were no antivaxxers all that doing nothing would have ended covid long ago.*
>Which is why every medium of communication needs to be vetted by the feds so those dangerous posters and foreign agents stop killing people with their disinformation.**
<* With "antivaxxer" meaning everything from anti vaccine schizos to anyone the government doesn't like.
<**With "disinformation" meaning any counterpoints or deviating narratives to the official truth, as validated by fed funded fact-checkers.


everything they do Biden's approval drops


What's with that though? I haven't looked into it but it doesn't seem plausible that myocarditis from the vaccine poses a higher risk than unvaxxed covid. I'd take critiquing the vaccine for being a rushed experimental profiteering enterprise, but shilling against vaccination? Come on now.

For every rare case of serious vaccine side effects there is exponentially more mundane one's where old relatives got covid and got through it unharmed because of the shot.


if you get the vaccine you will get side effects however catching covid is still uncommon.
there just isn't much of a reason to get vaccinated if you're not incredibly old or incredibly unhealthy


I have yet to experience these life-ruining side effects.


Do you think wolves don't attack people because you've never been attacked by a wolf


Because everything the Biden administration has done has been bad

>lift the mildest "lockdowns"

>refuse to enforce mask mandates
>refused to extend eviction moratorium
>told people that if they voted democrat they'd send out stimulus checks and then refused to send out stimulus checks
>lied and told people that if they got vaccinated they wouldn't catch covid

They refuse to do anything useful and instead push nothing but vaccines which don't actually do anything to stop the spread of the virus, then they act all surprised when the virus runs out of control and people get upset with them.

Between this and their response to skepticism of their new Russian war it's pretty clear that they are completely cut off from reality. Whatever facts they are getting are heavily filtered to the point that they are incapable of responding effectively or rationally to what is happening.


this thread >>726650

is clearly the answer to our geriatric gravy brain problem


>life-ruining side effects
moving the goal posts


sounds like a republican sweep in the mid terms


Part of me thinks that that's the plan. The bourgeoisie are reacting to the Floyd riots and now the wave of labor unrest, and moving to put the Republicans back in power to play "bad cop," and pass a bunch of anti-working class legislation to put the proles in their place. Now that covid has been relegated to a Poor Person's Disease (for the moment), they want desperately to put the genies of Trumpism and a restive public back in the bottle.

I wish it was just a Biden thing, but the rot obviously goes much, much deeper. Biden's appeal to the bourgeoisie was that "the adults in the room" would be back in charge, and so here we are, they're back in charge, and they're driving the country right into the ground.


anti-vaxxers get the wall




You are as fucking stupid as a Qanon Qultist

Bezos wouldn't have gotten richer if there had been actual lockdowns. Retail at half-capacity and closing at 4 instead of 5 is not a "lockdown"


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>As thousands of Americans die every single day from COVID-19, the Biden administration carries out a campaign, through media propaganda and manipulation of data, to cover up the pandemic and accustom the population to mass death in perpetuity.

>Every day for the past week, an average of 2,700 Americans have lost their lives to COVID-19. It is as if seven Boeing 777 passenger aircraft crashed into the ocean each day, with everyone onboard dead, or two Titanics sank each day.

>Over 900,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 to date, according to official death reports, but in reality the figure has already passed 1 million, according to “excess death” statistics compiled by The Economist.

>But rather than doing anything to stop mass infection and mass death, the US government has used the emergence of the highly transmissible Omicron variant as a pretext to abandon all measures to stop the spread of COVID-19.

>It is allowing virtually the entire American population to become infected and re-infected with COVID-19 into the future indefinitely, meaning that hundreds of thousands of people could die every year from a preventable disease, and millions more will be permanently disabled by Long COVID.

>In order to force the policy of mass infection onto a public that remains highly concerned about the dangers posed by the pandemic, the US government and media have launched a systematic and deliberate effort to cover up the massive death toll through a media blackout and the manipulation of data.

>The motto is: Hear no deaths, see no deaths, speak no deaths. But people keep on dying.

>This policy is driven not by science, but by the social interests of America’s financial oligarchy. In what amounted to a devastating condemnation of US policy, World Health Organization Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned this week:

<We’re concerned that a narrative has taken hold in some countries that because of vaccines, and because of Omicron’s high transmissibility and lower severity, preventing transmission is no longer possible, and no longer necessary. Nothing could be further from the truth.


>The strategy of the Biden administration was detailed in an article published by Politico yesterday, titled “So long, Omicron: White House eyes next phase of pandemic,” based on interviews with a “half-dozen administration officials.”

>“The Biden administration is plotting a new phase of the pandemic” aimed at “conditioning Americans to live with” COVID-19, Politico reported. The administration is planning a “conscious messaging shift meant to get people comfortable with a scenario where the virus remains widespread.”

>According to Politico, this shift is to be called the “new normal,” a tagline pioneered by former Biden adviser Ezekiel Emanuel in a series of articles published January 6 in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

>In order to “condition” public sentiment and make the public “feel differently” about the pandemic, the Biden administration has determined that “the best political strategy is not to have it dominate the news every day,” Politico wrote.

>There is no other country in the world where the media is as directly under government control as in the United States. In the month since Emanuel announced the “new normal,” reporting on COVID-19 fell exactly in inverse proportion to the rising death toll.

>In early January, as the 7-day average death toll stood at under 1,500, the pandemic regularly led the nightly news. But as the death toll reached 2,000, it slipped to second, then third, then fourth place. By the end of the month, there was regularly no reporting of the pandemic in the first half of the nightly news, and, more often than not, not a single mention of the pandemic in the “headlines” section of Google News.

>On Thursday, there was no mention of the pandemic during the entire broadcast of NBC “Nightly News.” Three inches of snow received a hundred times more news coverage than the deaths of 3,000 people in one day.

>But the effort to “condition” public consciousness and make the public “feel differently” cannot be achieved by means of media manipulation alone. For this reason, there is a systematic campaign to end reporting of COVID-19 cases and deaths.

>On Wednesday, the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) officially ceased its program for hospitals to report the number of COVID-19 deaths, ending what a federal health whistleblower told the WSWS was “the only consistent, reliable and actionable dataset at the federal level.”

>The only remaining source of reporting of COVID-19 deaths now flows through the coroner system, which is subject to political manipulation and which will be aggregated by states that are slashing daily reporting one after another.

>This cover-up is being carried out on an international level. On Wednesday, the same day that HHS ended daily reporting of COVID-19 deaths in hospitals, the administration of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that it planned to end the daily reporting of COVID-19 cases by Easter, if not earlier.

>But even slashing reporting is not enough. Testing is itself under attack. On Thursday, the Canadian province of Saskatchewan announced that it will end “COVID-19 PCR testing for the general public, thereby stopping most efforts to trace the spread of the virus in the community,” wrote journalist Zak Vescera.

>Commenting on the move, virologist Angela Rasmussen warned, “It’s the public health equivalent of gouging your eyes out because you don’t want to see bad news.”


>But the province is acting in accordance with the demand of Emanuel, who on January 26 called on the United States to end PCR testing in favor of rapid tests. Unlike PCR tests, rapid tests cannot be used for COVID-19 contact tracing and are not reported in daily case counts, meaning that positive COVID-19 cases that are not confirmed with PCR tests effectively disappear.

>The American government, speaking in the interests of the financial oligarchy, has concluded that the death of hundreds of thousands of people, year after year, is acceptable. What Charles Dickens’ Scrooge called “decrease[ing] the surplus population” is being accomplished by government policy, calculating that those who die will disproportionately be the elderly, the disabled and the poor.

>The campaign to make COVID-19 perpetual is a declaration of war on the population, an absolutely criminal act of mass murder.

>There is growing opposition to the ruling class policy of mass infection. Poll after poll has shown that the public consistently favors public health measures to protect lives from COVID-19. The most recent YouGov poll showed that the American public, by a very substantial margin, favors “protecting Americans from the health effects of the coronavirus outbreak” over protecting “the economy.”

>All over the world, the working class has begun to mobilize in opposition to the ruling class’s policy of mass death and demand the elimination and eradication of COVID-19. The central political task is to arm this growing movement with a political leadership based on the perspective of international socialism, whose central aim will be to end the capitalist system–a system that profits from and feeds on human death and misery.


File: 1644013136820.mp4 (19.5 MB, 640x360, Corona-chan.mp4)

Record number of Americans missed work due to illness in January

Record number of Canadians missed work due to illness in January

Three Million Britons Were Off Work Sick in the First Week of January

87% Of Brazilian Doctors Got COVID-19 In Last Two Months

As coronavirus cases keep rising in Spain, regions warn of healthcare staffing shortages
Coronavirus surge in Spain: 3% of population has tested positive in the past two weeks

German daily COVID cases rise above 200,000, causing staff shortages

In Africa at-home COVID tests are scarce and expensive, help may not come until next year

French schools "overwhelmed" by COVID-19 and contact tracing

4th vaccine shot less effective against omicron, Israeli study finds

Despite an Omicron surge, Denmark no longer considers the Covid-19 outbreak ‘a socially critical disease’, while Norway says society must ‘live with’ the virus

Infection by omicron variant provides insufficient natural immunity, allowing for immediate reinfections

COVID infection leading to disability, immune system, brain, and lung damage




> The bourgeoisie are reacting to the Floyd riots and now the wave of labor unrest

Also Epstein

I'm kind of starting to think they made Covid to stop Bernie.


They didn’t “make” covid
They just did a blood ritual to summon this hellish timeline


Covid test came back positive today
I had it last january too


I took Phizer because it was the only one available in my local imperial core hospital and I know that and other western vaccines are mRNA, which exit the system after a couple of months

Is it true that others, like the Chinese and Russian vaccines do not work this way? What are those vaccines called if not mRNA? Also, if they are more permanent, doesn't the fact that all parties involved are pumping out these semi-complete vaccines prematurely while the Coronavirus hasn't finished mutating out new variants lead to non mRNA vaccines being more heavy on the physiological system since you need to take several version of those to (at least I've read that the Sputnik vaccine had several versions).

Thank you, biochemistry was my least favorite subject in science education.



The way the immune system works is to identify molecular shapes of pathogens. In almost all cases, the goal of covid vaccines is to flood your body with the spike protein from the sars-cov-2 virus so your immune system can learn to identify the protein and be ready when/if the real virus enters your body. Other than mRNA, all other types of vaccines have been in use for decades.

mRNA (phizer, moderna): RNA is injected into you which enters your cells, your cells read the RNA and produce the protein encoded in the RNA. In the case of covid vaccines, the protein is the spike on the sars-cov-2 virus.

Viral Vector (Sputnik V, Astrazenica, J&J): The RNA for producing the sars-cov-2 spike protein is encoded into a harmless virus. The harmless virus is injected into you and this virus enters your cells. The virus modifies your cells DNA to produce the encoded spike protein.

Protein subunit (Soberana, Novavax): The spike protein is manufactured in a lab and the injected into your body.

Inactivated Virus (Sinovac, sinopharm): The sars-cov-2 virus is "killled" so it cannot infect your cells and these dead viruses are injected into your body.

In terms of "permanence", mRNA vaccines were advertised as being faster to modify, except so far we have not seen mRNA vaccines updated for new variants. It could just be marketing hype to make mRNA vaccines look preferable to other types of vaccines. Covid will never stop evolving as long as it exists and it doesn't matter what type of vaccine technology is used. All covid vaccines require multiple doses now (3 typically) including mRNA.


Is there any real reason to get the vaccine if I've gone this long and haven't caught covid?
I'm probably immune and don't want a vaccine to mess that up


Yes. Get it asap. It won't ruin anything dingus. Just don't trust it to completely eliminate the damage of actually getting covid. You should still take precautions whenever possible.


well its been this long as I still haven't gotten covid so its not likely that I will even get covid.
the negative effects of the vaccine at that point could easily be worse


>if I've gone this long and haven't caught covid?
That's more of a reason to get it, actually.


>That's more of a reason to get it, actually.
>It won't ruin anything dingus
considering that march of last year you had people saying the vaccinated can't spread the virus its definitely way too early to know this


Ive had covid twice now (currently have it) and it's certainly possible to survive it without vaccination but it requires medication like vitamin supplements and daily aspirin to prevent microclots destroying your organ tissue, as well as mucinex for preventing pneumonia.
Regardless, it is vitally important for communists to outlive reactionaries, so if you dont believe that medications would help you survive infection, vaccination would probably be a good idea. It's too bad its not possible to get any of the cuban vaccines.


sure but how is that anecdote any more reliable then anecdotes with mild symptoms


I could tell you about my anecdotal symptoms and long term effects of catching covid if you want to know what its like. I developed asthma/dyspnea and havent really recovered, and i caught it last january. Granted i was working at the time and the strain was pretty bad.


sure but how is that anecdote any more reliable then anecdotes with mild symptoms




How is you saying "I got covid and it was bad" suppose to be anymore reliable then people who got mild symptoms?


guess you got nothing


Discard anectdotal evidence. Get the vaccine because it is the logical thing to do given the data, the science, and the circumstances. If you lived in China maybe I'd entertain your line of thought. You're not, so the smartest choice is to get the jab.

I personally don't care if you do or not. The only person it benefits is you. If you don't believe us, then simply don't get it. Easy.


>Get the vaccine because it is the logical thing to do given the data, the science, and the circumstances. If you lived in China maybe I'd entertain your line of thought. You're not, so the smartest choice is to get the jab
but i already replied to this line of thinking
well its been this long as I still haven't gotten covid so its not likely that I will even get covid.
the negative effects of the vaccine at that point could easily be worse


Im not going to tell you to get the vaccine. Ive never gotten it and probably wont now that ive caught covid twice. Hell, i dont think ive ever gotten a flu shot actually because my parents believed it had mark-of-the-beast RFID chips in it. Regardless you should keep in mind that covid kinda sucks.
Also one thing you should keep in mind. Covid hurts people with healthy immune systems just as much as it hurts people with horrible immune systems. If youve got a balanced, moderately unhealthy immune system, you should be fine.
The reason it hurts healthy people is because it triggers a cytokine storm, which makes the immune system go haywire and attack healthy cells. This causes damage to vital organs and shit. Though you can get a cytokine storm from the vax too.
Im not anti or provax. Im open source vax and believe in transparency


>well its been this long as I still haven't gotten covid so its not likely that I will even get covid.
This line of reasoning doesn't follow. I hadn't had covid until I did 3 weeks ago. Thank jesus I was vaxxed because shit was rough.


>This line of reasoning doesn't follow
it does though, People are less likely to get covid as infection rates go down and others get vaccinated, A person was a lot more likely to get covid in 2020 or 2021 then they are now.
what are you confused about


t. has never looked at infection rates


So I'm generally pro vaccination but the covid vaccine is a different beast. Not only was it rushed and not really tested, and largely ineffective especially against different strains while requiring multiple booster shots, but it only exists to profit the pharma companies and get proles back to work.
We never had a proper lockdown in the west, especially in muttmerica. Now they're trying to force the vaccine on everyone so we have no "excuse" for further lockdowns.
>oh you want to stay home? well you got the vaccine so come in and slave and have in person classes!
>it's just too bad all these people are dying, we need to learn to live with covid! now work harder!
The owners literally cannot survive without our labor and they realize that conditioning us to think we're allowed to keep ourselves safe at the cost of their profits will only bring problems down the road. They will let millions of us die to preserve the present order.
Even elites like Colin Powell die despite being vaccinated.



>A person was a lot more likely to get covid in 2020 or 2021 then they are now.




now take out new variants as they weren't around in 2020 as per my post >>731401

I'll wait


>now take out new variants as they weren't around in 2020
literally irrelevant


The vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission


>take a look at the daily cases in US again
>five days grouped into a clump
>followed by two day slump
>like clockwork
What the fuck is going on? Is testing the actual bottleneck? Is shit just completely fucked?


It reduces it.


never said they did.
reading comprehension is key


I always found the idea that a respiratory virus that gets transmitted via the mucosa is for some reason less infectious because you have T-cells in your bloodstream to be a bit of a stretch. If vaccines reduce transmission to any degree, we wouldn't see such insane transmission rates in countries like Israel which is quadruple vaxxed or Spain or Portugal that have high vaccination rates.

If the "reduction of the transmission rate" exists at all it must be at 10% at best, losing their efficacy after two months at the very least. I'm sorry, that is pathetic. Remember that they claimed that the vaccine protects from virus transmission at a 80-90% rate, that was the claim by the governments and the pharma corporations.


Yeah but that was when that story was politically useful to set a clear goalpost of "here ends covid and it's my achievement" and profitable to pump money into experimental vaccines instead of antivirals, measures to prevent spread both regulatory and protective equipment, welfare, emergency healthcare infrastructure… Basically everything China seems to have done.

I remember at the time I heard some buzz that coronaviruses were very hard to vaccinate against and that any so called vaccine would be ineffective were the virus to mutate slightly, which of course it would since there was no global effort to limit spread. And hell even within "first world" countries the strategy was limiting spread only as a PR measure when the death was too bad for optics, but then reopen for every consumerist season and exploit the crisis in every way. I think it's safe to assume that politicians everywhere knew that the vaccines were not going to hinder the spread and lied about it for one reason or another.

One funny thing is that now that everyone is pretending all the lies were never said, or were stated in good faith or be slapped with a disinformation ban everywhere… the whole argument that the pandemic would have been over by the start of the vaccination campaign if not for antivaxxers, which is still widely used to deflect responsibility( including the responsibility of creating the antivaxxers as a political move), is kind of dangling there awkwardly with it's main points pulled under it's feet.


Were the original anti-vaxxers before the pandemic, not the ones that are nowadays unvaccinated with the mRNA vaccine, controlled opposition? Obviously a anti-vaxxer in 2017 or something was the equivalent of a flat earther or a believer in chemtrails. We know that there were extensive plans for a possible pandemic in terms of social control before CoVID, and now that millions decided not to get the mRNA vaccine you can basically smear everyone of them, or critics of a vaccine mandate (which was also considered a "conspiracy theory" in 2020) with this blanket term equating them with flat earther.

Most people who are unvaccinated that I talk to don't believe in serious side effects of the vaccine. They simply think it is ridiculous to get force-vaccinated 3 times a year, even when you have more antibodies than as someone, for example, who got 1 shot + got CoVID than a double-vaccinated person, especially since the vaccines do not really do that much, they mostly protect against hospitalization but not every time either. If I was getting polio vaccine three times within half a year, and then got polio even, I would really, really start to question the quality of this vaccine especially if it's a new technology.

When people are turning to scepticism it's the fault of the ruling class, politicians and pharmaceutical monopolies, that have never really been truthful and obscured facts, nudged them here and there, never outright lied (in most cases) but bending the truth, so many people stopped believing them. Pfizer also has many skeletons in the closet.


The German health minister has said in parliament recently:
>only full vaccination with a mandate we can get out of this when the next wave comes in fall [2022], it's the only way!!!
The only way, no masks, no lockdowns of the economy, no social distancing. Just this shitty vaxx that hasn't stopped the spread of Omicron - probably a mutation that specifically evolved to overcome immunity by vaccines against the wild strain in 2020.


At this point, I can see the case for rejecting more vaccines.
>We believe in vaccines, we don't believe in the absuse of vaccines and mass death for the benefit of the rich. 0 covid or bust.

If I am starting to question this vaccine bullshit, I'm sure I won't be the only one. I got covid a few weeks ago. I am not eager to get vaxxed yet again. It's insane. How much longer are they going to milk the alpha variant vaccine? How many more variants until the ruling class decides it has run out of useful workers?


Well the thing is, anecdotal sure, but look at this
>17% vaccine hesitancy

<2020 May
<27% vaccine hesitancy
<2020 Septermber
>49% vaccine hesitancy
<2020 November
>39% vaccine hesitancy
<2021 February
<20% vaccine hesitancy

The traditional antivaxx seems to have gotten a massive boost during the politicking with covid. And I don't think it's skepticism as much as the carryover from all the ways in which it was made a partisan wedge issue. The spike in hesitancy from may to september 2020 makes no sense considering it was before the vaccination campaign(and it's failure to stop covid) and inbetween the death toll on the US doubled from 100k to 200k. This is not a reality one can ignore as a matter of lifestyle unless one is hooked to a steady stream of validation for one's delusion.


When this bullshit will end?


>Were the original anti-vaxxers before the pandemic, not the ones that are nowadays unvaccinated with the mRNA vaccine, controlled opposition?
Unequivocally yes


> Were the original anti-vaxxers before the pandemic, not the ones that are nowadays unvaccinated with the mRNA vaccine, controlled opposition?
Sure, why not?


No, it doesn't.


>never said they did.
<People are less likely to get covid as infection rates go down and others get vaccinated,

You are actually so fucking stupid.


If you're living in certain countries, it's already Ogre. t. Swede


>new cases in Sweden yesterday: 16.968


Vi var første.

Hilsen fra Danmark.

New cases don't mean shit. We've had 30-50k new cases every day here, without any significant rise in hospitalisations and deaths.

The pandemic is over, covid is now an endemic disease. Only brain-damaged liberal restriction maximalists from reddit seem to want this thing to go on forever, because while mask and vaxx mandates are on, they get to occupy the moral highground and feel superior to the dumb unvaxxed.


a simple google search "covid cases sweden" proves that you are lying


I live in Denmark. "Hilsen fra Danmark" means "greetings from Denmark".


Heart-disease risk soars after COVID — even with a mild case

<Massive study shows a long-term, substantial rise in risk of cardiovascular disease, including heart attack and stroke, after a SARS-CoV-2 infection.

>Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study1 shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.

>What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.

>“It doesn’t matter if you are young or old, it doesn’t matter if you smoked, or you didn’t,” says study co-author Ziyad Al-Aly at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, and the chief of research and development for the Veterans Affairs (VA) St. Louis Health Care System. “The risk was there.”

>Al-Aly and his colleagues based their research on an extensive health-record database curated by the United States Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). The researchers compared more than 150,000 veterans who survived for at least 30 days after contracting COVID-19 with two groups of uninfected people: a group of more than five million people who used the VA medical system during the pandemic, and a similarly sized group that used the system in 2017, before SARS-CoV-2 was circulating.


>muh feelings > objective data
/pol/-tier stupidity



>With the spreading of the Omicron variant, lately, the discussion of China’s “dynamic zero COVID” policy is heated. For example, The New York Times ran “China’s Zero-Covid Policy Is a Pandemic Waiting to Happen” {1} (a guest essay) today, and “China Holds the Line on ‘Zero Covid’, but Some Wonder for How Long” {2} and “Zero-Covid Policy Shakes Hong Kong’s Economy and Its ‘Soul’ ” {3} last week. In the week before that, “The Army of Millions Who Enforce China’s Zero-Covid Policy, at All Costs” {4} induced particularly harsh feedback from Chinese media.

>Below is translated from a January 18 2022, post {5} on the WeChat blog 兔主席 Chairman Rabbit {6}. Behind the blog popular among usually better-informed Chinese readers is Ren Yi {7}, as many of you probably have already known. Your Pekingnologist is pretty sure many subscribers will probably not agree with his views – but he thinks exposure to some different Chinese views is at least partly what you signed up for. This is the first half of Ren’s two-part series on the issue. The translation hasn’t been reviewed by him. The highlights are by Pekingnology.



>only liberals care about controlling covid spread

china is controlling covid spread; cuba also attempted to control covid spread and instituted mass vaccination campaigns. Are you saying your social democratic backwater, and the various capitalist countries of the west who've given up on this, are somehow "less liberal" than china and cuba?


no shut up it's brilliant
>thousands of people dying every day during a pandemic
>tragic, horrible, shut it down

>thousands of people dying every day during an endemic

>fine, no worries, nothing to worry about

joe biden did it! he ended the pandemic, just like he promised!


>Only brain-damaged liberal restriction maximalists from reddit seem to want this thing to go on forever
its going on forever thanks to faggots like you, actually


Based and truthpilled

T. suomibro


>Even if every single person on the planet had corona, you'd still be arguing for restrictions.
yes? duh??


>Even if the whole world was quadruple boosted and every single person on the planet had corona
it doesnt change anything


>"death with corona" and "death within a month of a positive corona test" are counted as "corona deaths"
rightard cope


>when do you think restrictions should be lifted?
when the pandemic is actually over
are you a bougie this desperate to fly to other countries

>when should corona passports, vaccine and mask mandates stop?

actually i dont like these because theyre never done in a transparent way and its a violation of privacy
i still think you guys are fucking retarded for shitting on masks and vaccines lmfao


as long as the pandemic continues you fucking retard, which it will as long as pieces of shit like you keep getting your way


>A newspaper editor wrote an article recently apologising for his newspaper not pushing more against the government narrative and interpretation of numbers.

The "newspaper" is a conservative tabloid Ekstra Bladet


Hallo aus Deutschland! Really I've been thinking about migrating to your country because I live in Germany, which is firmly under the control of American medico-fascists and enforces now booster mandates ("2g+ Regel") with the most cruel, fascistic measures imaginable (depriving people of unemployment benefits, etc.). Our health minister, a mentally ill medico-fascist concentration camp doctor, Karl Lauterbach, continues to spread dangerous misinformation that omicron is actually "more deadly" than the wild Wuhan strain without any evidence.


>le wuhan flu
you faggots are so transparent


From what I was I've read, the virus was first discovered in Wuhan, where it was quickly contained by the Chinese government that saved thousands of lives. Come again?


Anzeige ist raus.


Aber erst am Montag, oder?


>someone help I can't stop coooooooooooopinggggggg


I am really not someone that is easily offended but if you are german you should know not to make nazi comparisons in this way. Or maybe it's Kabarett.


>who decides when it's over?
A good rule of thumb to know if this virus is still dangerous is to look how actual socialist countries like Cuba or DPRK react to it


I am serious now - at what point are you allowed to make Nazi comparisons? Sure, sure, they are not exterminating peoples or wage war on the entire world, but neither did the Nazis before 1939, right? Does anything the Nazis did between 1933 and 1939 not count as Nazi methods? We are dealing with serious, never-ending, increasingly unscientific controls in terms of bodily autonomy, the biopolitics Foucault was talking about are not in his abstract conception anymore, they are forced upon us directly, out in the open. This is nothing but an assault on the global working class.

Oh, so you are worried about people dying from a virus? Well, where fucking where you when the influenza killed thousands in 2018!

If you are not completely brainwashed and speak German, I recommend you this article: https://netzwerk-linker-widerstand.ru/magma/2022/02/biopolitische-machtergreifung/


Nah, I'm good. I already have a religion.


>getting asked to wear a mask is…. LE FASCIST
holy libshit


I am for mask mandates, especially in retirement homes and the such, where people have a very high risk of dying from the flu.


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As someone who actually studied most of Foucault's work it's so tiring to see him getting mangled by antivaxxers.


Your religion is worshipping anti-science bullshit put out by Bayer AG (ex-IG Farben, profiteers of industrial extermination) and Biontech.


We don't talk to Nazis, we shoot them.


>most predictions that poststructuralist thinkers made in the abstract become real
>noooo don't misinterpret the actual thoughts of my favorite pedophile Frenchman!
hang yourself


>me and my liberal friends
The "nazis" (imagined nazis: 25 million unvaccinated in Germany, all nazis, especially the children; actual nazis: about 5k at best, observed by the Verfassungsschutz) must be so triggered


>pedophile Frenchman
t. Fox News consumer


you dont even see the irony and hypocrisy in posting this after all your unhinged posts


>DPRK react to it
the DPRK rejected millions of vaccines in the COVAX program and told them to send the vaccines somewhere else.


You sound a bit triggerd


Foucault was an actual pedophile who preyed on colonized people. Are you gonna die on that hill or will you admit you lost this exchange?


Yes I am fucking triggered because this vaccine mandate actually ruins my life. You know, some people despite posting on here have lives.


NTA but ad hominem is not an argument. If anything, you lost.


How does the vaccine mandate ruin your life?


>Foucault was an actual pedophile who preyed on colonized people.
The only "source" for this was some random conservative right-winger who constantly whines about le woke ideology. In over 50 years absolutely nobody else said anything about it at all until this person. He's also a collaborator with Jean Chirac y Alain Juppe, curiously accused of embezzlement. I think this helps understand his statements.


I can still critique his work and then use ad hominem especially after that retarded post by that other anon that he "read Foucault's work" (he didn't) and pointed out "well, biopolitics as a category by Foucault doesn't literally mean the state controlling your body" - I mean, yes and no. There are layers to that. Foucault's talk about hospitals and prisons certainly is, in the end, controlling your body directly. Most of capitalism is controlling your body indirectly.

But to be offended that people use the term "biopolitics" to talk about regulary vaccine mandates that are tracked via digital apps on your phone is super retarded, Foucault probably rolls in his grave.

If anything, it shows that the age of postmodern abstractions is over.


foucault wasnt even living in tunisia during 1969, youre retarded and easily believe anything you read on the internet (but this is obvious, youre an antivaxxer)


>this vaccine mandate actually ruins my life

I mean, if it's a social thing you can always take the jab and lie about it…

How hard is to take an injection that is objectively for your benefit? Like what, you worry the vaccine is going to bar your soul from salvation or something? Because if we are staying within reality, the vaccine is the superior alternative to the risk of unvaxxed covid.
Or maybe you lead such a privileged life where you don't expect to get it and you can afford the monoclonal antibodies treatment and such on a whim and taking the shot is a status thing. You know, the servants have to wear masks so you don't need to kind of thing.


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It really says a lot that the guy spouting Alex Jones-tier crap would also post some bullshit claims made against Foucault that were also only shared in Alex Jones-tier blogs and social media circles, rofl.


Lost my job over it.

Ah yes, the French understanding that you were not pedophilic when you are seduced by young ephebes, totally not children. What's worse, he did it in a country France colonized and talked to teenage boys to come with him in exchange for money - and this is confirmed, you don't need to consult Guy Sorman for that.


>this is confirmed
Can you post these confirmations?


>curiously accused of embezzlement.
Embezzlement in what context. There's nothing wrong with embezzlement usually.


>How hard is to take an injection that is objectively for your benefit?
What the fuck is this retardation. Yes, I can also inject myself with fucking fuel overnight, after all, the procedure would be the least of my worries…

Foucault was also one of the co-signers of French philosophers to lower the age of consent. This is all out in the open and not "Alex Jones-tier crap".


>Lost my job over it.
You mean you decided to leave your job to avoid vaccination.

Why is avoiding the covid vaccines so important to you, that you'd prefer the consequences that "ruin your life"?


>Foucault was also one of the co-signers of French philosophers to lower the age of consent.
That was part of a protest because French authorities thought that kids should go to jail.


This is from Tunesian journalists trying to DEFEND Foucault:
What the fuck? Source: https://www.jeuneafrique.com/1147268/politique/tunisie-michel-foucault-netait-pas-pedophile-mais-il-etait-seduit-par-les-jeunes-ephebes/
When you read the article, you find that Moncef Ben Abbes, a guy in the village at that time, confims this. The problem was that Guy Sorman made outrageous rightoid claims that Foucault would force children to have sex with corpses at midnight. Obviously bullshit. Still, he was a pedo.


>defending the capitalist
In any case:
>Why is avoiding the covid vaccines so important to you, that you'd prefer the consequences that "ruin your life"?
I am worried about the side effects.


>Foucault was a pedophile who raped kids
>here, it says Foucault wasn't a pedophile and didn't rape kids
Uh. Okay.


>paying kids under the age of consent to come with you under a lighthouse in a country your own country colonized is okay


>Foucault was an actual pedophile who preyed on colonized people


I don't read French, does the article state he had sex with these kids? If so, that's fucked, but it doesn't seem to be the case lol


If your fucking alarm doesn't go off when someone says he was "seduced by young children" then I do not know what to tell you.

Again, this isn't even about Foucault's work.


Out of all the things I can think about COVID 19 must be the most boring subject


>I am worried about the side effects.
But not about covid? Because that's the risk to balance here.

Also, did you take previous doses? Because the balance of minimizing risk was a lot heavier towards taking the vaccines in the first waves of covid. You had a lot higher chance of not getting proper treatment, being screwed by triage on crowded hospitals, or lacking the resources to get the treated or ventilated if by chance you got really sick.
And also there was , for the same reasons, a bigger social benefit to being vaccinated and minimizing your own impact on the healthcare systems(even if their unpreparedness and the virus spread can be blamed on capitalists).

So did you take the earlier covid shots?


>seduced by young children
my alarm would go off if someone said he seduced young children., not the other way around, or that he accepted the seductions and fucked them or w/e
were talking about a poor colonized country, its not surprising some kids would try to sell their bodies for money, the issue is if he took advantage of this or not

if google translate can be trusted, it seems he did not do any of this
>At that time, the Minister of the Interior is none other than Béji Caid Essebsi (1926-2019), born in Sidi Bou Saïd. "He would have tolerated no scandal, but knew that the village self-regulated. Two perpetrators of pedophile acts were very quietly banished from the village, although son of notables "reports close to the former President of the Republic.


>But not about covid?
Already had it. But I didn't had any symptoms. The German government just decided to lower the time where you count as "recovered" from 6 months to 3 months. Suddenly, from one day to another, by government decree, I found myself amongst the "schizos", "anti-vaxxers", "nazis", etc. because now I am barred from participating in social life. There are also conditions in my workplace, which I will not elobarate, that require me to take the vaxx or I am out.
>And also there was , for the same reasons, a bigger social benefit to being vaccinated and minimizing your own impact on the healthcare systems
If that is true, if this Malthusian logic applies, I can also just kill myself because I have a condition that requires me to visit a hospital on a regular basis. Tell me, should rock climbers get treatment when they injure themselves? Should chain smokers do? After all, we can just let pregnant women deliver at home, because it's their choice they didn't get the pill, right?

You are regurgitating the exact same shit the neoliberal elites pushed for decades. It's all about "self-care", don't you ever rely on the healthcare system which has been starved for decades as well.
>So did you take the earlier covid shots?
I didn't take a single shot because I already had it and natural immunity.


>Muh legal age of consent says 17.9 years and younger is pedophilia and 18 is totally normal.
Do people really think that desires and actions are determined by laws?

And are you seriously arguing people from the imperial core can't have sex with people from the imperialized countries? Nigha wtf.


>Do people really think that desires and actions are determined by laws?
Well this is the thin about laws, they need to have some standard to be enacted, there is also a legal driving age, a legal age to drink alcohol, and so on. Does that mean a 17 year old can be more mature than a 18 year old? Yeah, sure. But if you do not see the problem of a 40 year old man taking 17 year old kids to his hotel room in the global south (remember the cheque they got from Michel was probably more than what their father would earn an entire year) then I do not know what to tell you.


>if you do not see the problem of a 40 year old man taking 17 year old kids to his hotel room
i guess you're just going to completely ignore >>740923
youre contradicting yourself with the very same article you posted as "proof"
go home my man


>It's all about "self-care"
Actually it's you who's all about "personal responsibility" and risk taking. A closer example would be:
<Should I be allowed to smoke my cancer sticks in public with the rest of the responsible addicts who take responsiblility for themselves?
Which , no. I don't want your second hand smoke and I couldn't care less about your smoker's pride. You stink, you stain and you are pathological(an addict). But if you don't, smoke in private where others don't have to inhale the tar in your breath.

>I didn't take a single shot because I already had it and natural immunity.

So really, there is no rationality behind it and it's just schizo antivaxx pride. Ok. No further questions.




>So really, there is no rationality behind it and it's just schizo antivaxx pride
The rationality is… whatever. You are too far gone. Go look up how viruses work and we can talk again. Meanwhile, I think my doctor is better equipped to help me than you.


>i got covid and nothing happened
>but i won't save myself the fucking trouble of my stupid decisions because of what might happen if i get a shot
>so I'll just subject myself to the possibility of repeated infections and the certainty of social repercussions because of the miniscule chance of uh "side effects"
>if only you were as smart and rational as me you'd understand u_u;;


If North Korean tv is anything to go by they're still taking covid deadly seriously


Morally there is no difference with another few days, weeks, months. But legally it's better to have a hard baseline somewhere that no rich cunt with his fancy lawyer can wriggle out off.


the same liberal ideology that has us putting primary blame on unvaxxed individuals for the disastrous state response to covid has us fretting over our carbon footprint, individual consumer choices as though the problem in both cases was not this mode of production the whole time

covid is a product of capitalism (deforestation, urbanization in peripheral lands puts people in direct contact with novel diseases) and climate change is too (fossil fuels as capital’s unique trick for profits by disaggregation of production, labor arbitrage, capital mobility)

and we wonder why workers often break conservative on this issues… regressive sales taxes on gasoline, moral browbeating over lifestyle? blaming the worker who (rightfully) distrusts the same lackeys of profit who gave us NAFTA and the capitalists who give us $300 insulin?

there’s no individual solution to a collective problem and, more, the hegemonic ideology of individual solutions makes collective action that much harder. the only solution to the contractions/tragedies of class society is a class movement to directly oppose the class system


so basically youre saying vaccine mandates and quarantines are good? glad we agree


They are the lib side of a culture war. The only truly leftist stance is ZERO COVID. Anything less is different degrees of capitalist realism.


>The only truly leftist stance is [IDEALISM]
wow, tell us more.


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China did it, enjoy your culture war loser.


>enjoy your culture war loser
<Is deeply engaged in culture war


what culture war?


have you considered reading a thread before posting


A Chinese city is paying $1,500 to anyone who tests positive for COVID-19


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It's so funny to see "marxist" "academics" talking about muh Soros muh vaccine muh globalism.


Soros is an anti-communist piece of shit, pointing out his nefarious influence is legitimate.


Did you read the essay? It's just a long-winded way of whining about vaccines.


thank you ben "red" garrison


total poverty may be what it takes to get amerifats to take more political action than vooooting


"natural immunity" from contracting covid previously won't protect you from variants dumbass

this is why we need a strong Tankie state to forcibly vaxx people. Break down their front doors and fill with them with Sputnik vax


>"natural immunity" from contracting covid previously won't protect you from variants dumbass
And neither will a vaccine made for the alpha variant spike protein.


>"natural immunity" from contracting covid previously won't protect you from variants dumbass
First off, the fact that you needed to put something like natural immunity in quotation marks reveals that you are an absolute bitch. Since when is the concept of natural immunity controversial? Do we have to go back to medieval theories about miasmas? Fucking hell.

Secondly, as the other anon pointed out, the mRNA vaccines are specifically designed to prevent you from going to the hospital from the alpha variant. And they did that … less than moderately successful looking at the results.
>this is why we need a strong Tankie state to forcibly vaxx people. Break down their front doors and fill with them with Sputnik vax


>Since when is the concept of natural immunity controversial?

When scientific terms became political buzzwords, and were used in word salad propaganda pieces like "vaccines + natural immunity = super immunity."

>Do we have to go back to medieval theories about miasmas?

This would actually be a big improvement because aerosol transmission has been severely downplayed in preference for fomite transmission in order to get people back to work and free organizations of responsibility for infections that happen on site. If aerosol transmission weren't being intentionally buried and a bigger effort was made to focus on improving ventilation and air filtration techniques like corsi boxes, in conjunction with other non medical interventions, the pandemic wouldn't be nearly as severe as it currently is.


Has anyone read Zizek's book on covid?




it read like patiently listening to a rambling uncle who is too engrossed in his own story to notice that you are getting annoyed.


Why is mental illness so prevalent in Denmark?


Jannies are right, kys faget


I'd like to read it. Zizek's brilliant.



>PIERRE, S.D. (Dakota News Now) - The South Dakota House has passed a bill to allow medical professionals to prescribe ivermectin to patients suffering from COVID-19.

>House Bill 1267 passed Monday on a vote of 40 to 28, South Dakota Broadcasters Association Reports. Its prime sponsor is Rep. Phil Jensen (R, Rapid City).

>The bill gives medical professionals permission to prescribe ivermectin in accordance with accepted medical standards. If ivermectin is prescribed, medical professionals must provide patients with an information sheet about the drug and subsequent healthcare information.

>Opponents of the bill argue the legislature should not be telling doctors what they can or cannot prescribe for their patients.



>Despite the efforts by the ruling elite and the corporate media to falsely claim that SARS-CoV-2 has become endemic and will be more like the seasonal flu, COVID-19 infections and deaths continue at rates comparable to the peaks of previous waves.

>A recent investigative report by Gothamist comparing provisional COVID-19 data by sex and age and preliminary influenza-associated pediatric deaths data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explodes the lie that the disease is mild and is akin to the flu.

>First, the report notes that influenza-related pediatric deaths nearly disappeared among children in 2021. This was largely due to the broad-based use of mitigation measures across the US and in schools. Second, COVID-19 deaths among children not only far outpaced flu-related deaths but have risen sharply throughout the pandemic.

>Just three flu-related child deaths were reported in 2021 compared to 539 COVID-19 reported deaths among children in the same period. Additionally, as flu-related deaths diminished between 2020 and 2021 almost to zero, reported COVID-19-related deaths among children nearly tripled from 198 reported deaths to 539. The report also showcases that the greatest number of deaths in 2021 occurred during the last five months of the year, amid a surge of the Delta variant and after schools reopened for the fall semester.

>Since the spread of Omicron, the frequency of deaths among children has only continued to rise. According to the same report, at least 58 reported deaths have been recorded since the start of 2022 alone.



>A new pre-print study in BioRxIv by a team of Japanese researchers, plus emerging data from the UK and South Africa, point in the same direction: that the Omicron variant BA.2 is not just outcompeting “original” Omicron, variant BA.1, but is also more pathogenic.

>The article estimated BA.2 as 1.4 times as contagious as BA.1, which is consistent with BA.2 managing to gain a lot of ground against an already fabulously contagious variant. From the abstract:

<Statistical analysis shows that the effective reproduction number of BA.2 is 1.4-fold higher than that of BA.1. Neutralisation experiments show that the vaccine-induced humoral immunity fails to function against BA.2 like BA.1, and notably, the antigenicity of BA.2 is different from BA.1. Cell culture experiments show that BA.2 is more replicative in human nasal epithelial cells and more fusogenic than BA.1. Furthermore, infection experiments using hamsters show that BA.2 is more pathogenic than BA.1. Our multiscale investigations suggest that the risk of BA.2 for global health is potentially higher than that of BA.1.


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is this making fun of anti-restriction people or pro-safety people?

i was blessed to not be french


Don't worry guys covid will evolve to be less deadl-


>In South Africa, where Omicron was first sequenced, the seven-day moving average of new infections has plateaued at 2,500 per day. The death rate, however, has risen tenfold since mid-November, with an average of 164 deaths per day. Of note, more than 9,000 South Africans have died during the Omicron wave accounting for almost 10 percent of all COVID deaths. Rates of children dying were up by a factor of 2.2.

>On February 17 there were 435 deaths reported, a single-day high during the Omicron phase of the pandemic. In line with these findings, the moving average case fatality rate of COVID-19 in the country has been rapidly climbing. Viral sequences submitted to GISAID between January 24 to February 7, 2022, found that BA.2 accounted for 65 percent of cases.


>The BA.2 variant became dominant in Denmark by mid-January, displacing BA.1, and presently accounts for more than 90 percent of all sequenced SARS-CoV-2 samples in Denmark. Cases peaked at the end of January, where they have remained consistently high with a seven-day moving average of over 40,000 cases per day. Worrisome has been the acceleration of the daily death counts, which have edged above last winter’s peak. Thirty-three people are now dying every day.

>Placing these figures into context for comparative purposes, Denmark has 5.83 million people while the US has 331 million. If Denmark had an equivalent population, the case rate would be over 2.2 million infections daily and the daily death close to 1,900 per day.

oh boy




The caption reads 'The frenchmen satisfied with the lifting of the restrictions'.


>A year and a half after the arrival of Virus, some may have started wondering why the usually unscrupulous ruling elites decided to freeze the global profit-making machine

lol off to a bad start already, they froze nothing


>oh boy
and yet, Denmark has removed all restrictions, including testing requirements on entry into the country, if you have two or three vaxx shots you don't need a test.,


I mean, what really counts is how many people are hospitalized, in a country like Denmark, you don't just stay at home when you so sick that you might die. I haven't heard the hospitalization rate going up like last year in Denmark, UK, Germany, etc. so all this fearmongering is pretty silly.

The WSWS is also David North's cult, they called for the most fascistic measures against the virus, don't take medical advice from them.

About the death statistic, everyone with a positive CoVID test counts as "dead from the virus" but naturally that would go up with a more infections variant that however is milder in terms of symptoms.


>they called for the most fascistic measures against the virus
<noooo they want to genocide inocent virinos ;___;

>About the death statistic, everyone with a positive CoVID test counts as "dead from the virus"

You aut righter have been screeching this for years now and i have yet to see a single shred of evidence for it

>milder in terms of symptoms

Milder than delta, deathlier than the wuhan strain

You really want your wageslaves back to work dont you


How about the proposal of Proff Wolff that workers should be compensated for covid-19 related income losses, it could be payed by using all the extra covid-profits that capitalists made during the crisis.

go to 6 minutes and 5 seconds


>noooo they want to genocide inocent virinos ;___;
I mean none of these measures will actually exterminate the virus (it's gonna become endemic) not have they worked particularly well. However lockdowns and vaccine mandates had a significant impact on people's lives, mostly poorer people, and the global south. A current estimation is that per lockdown 10k children die in the global south due to interrupted supply chains.
>You aut righter have been screeching this for years now and i have yet to see a single shred of evidence for it
I am not on the right, and this is literally how the statistics is created. Positive test = died from CoVID. There is no other way to do this anyway, tests are only partially reliable and you can not make safe statements about the cause of death for every single patient. Maybe there are countries that use different metrics, but I am talking about the Western countries here.
>Milder than delta, deathlier than the wuhan strain
Again, I would contest the statistic about the death count. More people gonna have Omicron, so there will be more deaths regardless of the cause of death. Also "Wuhan strain", wtf.
>You really want your wageslaves back to work dont you
The entire point of vaccine mandates is to get people back to work so the capitalists don't have to undertake any safety measures for their workers, you just got your useless vaccine and you get back into your wagie cagey.


>>757167 (me)
Also lets not forget that they refuse to accept the same methodology for people dying from the vaccine, that is really a fucking hypocracy here.

It's probably not that much (about 10k in EU, mostly younger people) but it's still an argument to be against mandates when the efficacy of the vaccine is so weak and outdated against newer variants


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Hey burgertards organ transplants require immune suppression to not be rejected which makes vaccines kinda irrelevant and given that you be rejecting the superior communist Chinese and Cuban vaxes you ain't be taking vaxxing serious anyway


Yes, that is quite literally the only correct stance as a socialist


you're better off believing the opposite of what weird sex web site says


and they'll give you a wopping $5


>You aut righter have been screeching this for years now and i have yet to see a single shred of evidence for it
You're aut right stupid. must be simple being a lib, just listen to whatever the media tells you and you get to feel superior… to people who know more than you lol

Oh, and here's the evidence, this is right under the table of daily deaths and infections on the State's serum institutions website:
>2: Opgørelsen af antallet af døde omfatter dødsfald, der er registreret indenfor 30 dage efter påvist covid-19 infektion - på baggrund af positiv PCR test.covid-19 er ikke nødvendigvis den tilgrundliggende årsag til dødsfaldet.
>covid-19 er ikke nødvendigvis den tilgrundliggende årsag til dødsfaldet.
Translation: Update of the number of dead includes deaths that are registered within 30 days of a covid-19 infection - on the basis of a PCR test. covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.
>covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.
covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.
>covid-19 is not necessarily the cause of death.
That comes from Statens Serum Institute, are they aut right?


>Also "Wuhan strain", wtf
people in this thread are getting corona info from CNN and MSNBC.


what's wrong with saying Wuhan strain?


it implies covid was made in a lab in Wuhan


>country that wants to desperately wants to open up and do away with health measures so that their porkies can make money again says that it is no big deal

>are they aut right too?

Every NATO country is borderline fascist, yes


What are you talking about? Working never stopped, only some petty bourgeois restaurants and corner stores had to close down. When we are talking about "measures" they mean vaccine passports. I also fail to see how the lockdown, the vaccine rollout, mask production, etc. was not a golden cow for the bourgeoisie? Every statistic indicates that during lockdown and mandates that private profits went up, even though the overall GDP contracted.

Again, if the situation in the hospitals remains stable, I don't see why you couldn't open up? Unless you want the state to punish the unvaccinated for no reason, just for the sake of it.


>What are you talking about? Working never stopped, only some petty bourgeois restaurants and corner stores had to close down.
As a labourer I was told i wasn't allowed to work. Are you retarded? Did you just ignore reality and the news the last year and make your own head-cannon up?


>I don't see why you couldn't open up?
Because the point is to not get the entire population infected with rona and keep rolling the dice on long covid. That was the approach since Delta and clearly kicking the can down the road isn't working.

>Unless you want the state to punish the unvaccinated for no reason, just for the sake of it.

Their spanking shall be thorough and merciless.


>asks for proof that deaths with covid are counted as covid deaths
>gets it
>instead of saying thank you, spergs off on an incomprehensible tangent
never change, /leftypol/

Point is, governments always said that restrictions were temporary until everyone gets vaccinated. Once you have vaccinated over 80% of the population (herd immunity threshold) there really isn't any need for restrictions, social distancing or any other measures. Canada has also achieved over 80% vaccination rate. If you don't open after that, then when?

>the point is to not get the entire population infected with rona and keep rolling the dice on long covid
vaccinated people don't get long covid, it's only in those who've been hit particularly bad with covid and gotten pneumonia or some other illness alongside covid. vaccinations prevent this. therefore, if you're vaccinated, you can move on with your life.


the trucker protest wasn't even about lockdowns, it was about petit boug truckers needing to be vaccinated to go over the US/CA border


In many countries you had subsidized short-time work to reduce crowded production enterprises. Office work was done from home. If you didn't get to work, you probably work in some service sector or a smaller business. Were you compensated in full? Because if not, you should be against the lockdowns, what's the point of not getting sick when you are thrown out of your house.

>Because the point is to not get the entire population infected with rona
But eventually that will happen when the virus is endemic. You probably also had the Spanish flu once, but over a hundred years it's in its n-th mutation and indistinguishable from a cold. That will also be the case with COVID at some point.

I think the draconian restrictions are a much bigger threat now because they may keep some of them in place in some countries even when it's completely endemic. Because the problem is that they have further implemented austerity on the healthcare system, even during the pandemic. I may remind you that the influenza wave killed tens of thousands of people in 2018/2019 flu season, hospitals were full, endangered groups started to get vaccinated. Incidences will also continue to stay up, probably even more as milder variants get more infectious. So unless they fix the metric, they can use this as justification for years to keep restrictions in case, with mandatory booster shots every 3-6 months. This would be an endless cash cow for the monopoly bourgeoisie.
>Their spanking shall be thorough and merciless.
So you offer no solutions, just more appeals to the neoliberal state to take people's social security, jobs, livelihood away. If you really are for a complete vaccine mandate, how will you do it? Forced vaccination by cops? Completely unfeaseable. There were mandates in the past, but they weren't as politicized and I can guarantee the 30% who don't get vaxxed will not get the vaccine now if they even made it to those restrictions.

Also, I would remind you that the vaccines were designed to specifically target the wild strain, we don't know if they work for Omicron. Furthermore, we are only now starting forth phase clinical trials for this completely novel mRNA technology. Both sides are hardened their stances right now. The unvaccinated overplay the danger of the vaccine, and the government and corporations deny that any side effects would even be possible and tell people who are vaccine longhaulers and just aks what they should do that they are "fascists".


inject them with tetanus


OK, but how are you going to do this? Ask them nicely?


Inject them with Tetanus too.


Yes most people don't realize that the lockdown protests in 2020 was mostly led by libertarian types and business owners. But that is not necessarily true for the protests against vaccine mandates, because you have 40-10% unvaccinated in almost every country, tens of millions of people. It's numerically impossible that they are all right-wingers. So to say that protesters against vaccine mandates also want absolutely no measures taken and just let the virus run its course is wrong.

It's mostly about exclusion. Everyone can wear a mask and do social distancing. With the vaccine mandates, you have complete exclusion of a minority, while the majority "gets their freedom back" and they start spreading the virus around.

Better would be a generalized test mandate for everybody, with free tests. What China does. This would also make everything a lot safer, and you don't have the vaccinated not behave like retards and going partying again without getting tested.


I'm going to inject your mom with my dick


Comebacks like this, you clearly deserve your money and easy live


>Once you have vaccinated over 80% of the population (herd immunity threshold) there really isn't any need for restrictions, social distancing or any other measures.
The vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission, so all you're doing by keeping everything open after achieving that is breeding strains that evade those vaccines.

Great job.


Endemic doesn't mean harmless you stupid asshole.



>“Endemicity” — the less disruptive coexistence with a virus that comes after a pandemic — “just identifies a pathogen that’s fixed itself in our population so stubbornly that we cease to be seriously perturbed by it,” the Atlantic’s Katherine Wu has written. “We tolerate it. Even catastrophically prevalent and deadly diseases can be endemic, as long as the crisis they cause feels constant and acceptable to whoever’s thinking to ask.”

>The current situation in Denmark offers an early glimpse of how that kind of “endemic” future could unfold. In late January, COVID cases there appeared to crest. But driven by BA.2, a more transmissible subvariant of Omicron, they began to rise again immediately after mitigation measures were lifted, reaching a new all-time high average of 7,970 cases per million residents on Feb. 13 — 13 times the country’s previous peak, recorded in December 2020.

>That’s an astronomical amount of virus. In comparison, the U.S. and the U.K. both topped out at around 2,500 cases per million residents at the height of their recent Omicron waves.


>all you're doing by keeping everything open after achieving that is breeding strains that evade those vaccines.
>Great job.
wait, so when should we open up? also, "vaccines cause vaccine-resistant strains" is literally an antivaxx talking point. Data shows that virus mutates much more in the unvaccinated population.


now show us number of hospitalisations, ICU bed and respirators in use, look at the number of deaths. all of those numbers are low because of vaccines
>before most people were vaxxed
>everyone get vaxxed!! vaccines will save us from restrictions!
>now that most people are vaxxed
>well, vaccines don't work so well anyway we still need a lockdown
they increased the powers of the police state and now they don't want to scale it down. NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!!!


No, but what are you gonna do? Keeping everything in lockdown forever? You know that also ruins your immune system.

What is the most dystopian thing is that politicians and the pharmaceutical industry seem to almost hope that the next variant will be worse and some horrifying mutation.


>wait, so when should we open up?
When the virus is gone you dumb cunt. The problem is that the political administrations around the world refuse to commit to serious mitigation procedures and immediately lift even the lightest ones as soon as infections start to go down, leading to new mass outbreaks and repeating the cycle.

>vaccines cause vaccine-resistant strains" is literally an antivaxx talking point.

That's not what I said you illiterate fuckhole. The vaccines need to be supported with non-pharmaceutical measures like distancing, quarantines, masks, etc, since the vaccines don't prevent transmission or infection. China's anti-covid measures have proven how valuable and necessary these measures are in supporting the vaccines.

Post your numbers, faggot.

>Keeping everything in lockdown forever?
They haven't been locked down at all you porky shill.


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>Danish 🇩🇰 political leaders have completely lost their frigging minds releasing all #COVID19 mitigations — these are exponentially ⬆️ surging DEATHS not cases!!! This is what happens when a country’s leaders gaslights its own citizens.


>Endemic Delusion".

Used to describe the delusional belief that the pandemic is over and that we can get back to 2019 life by suppressing the fact that we need to keep innovating and fight the virus.

>Best exemplified by Denmark


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>So let's do a little fact-checking.

>What is the number of cases of people hospitalized *with* and not *because* of COVID. Well, according to SSI (the Danish CDC). Well, according to the latest data (from today), it's 30-40% who were hospitalized because of other reasons


>In other words, both the health authorities and the Danish press is misleading the public about this. This is not a 'small' part. It's the opposite. It still means that the majority of people are hospitalized because of COVID.

>If we put this into a graph, it looks like this:


>Pro-virus fags fall silent because they need their handlers to tell them how to respond


First image: Look at how many more cases there are, and compare that to how many new deaths there are. It's clear that, while more people are dying now than before, the amount of deaths per case is significantly lower.


Is that a new euphemism for plague rat?


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i call them covidpozzers. Please be clever and shorten it.









this comic is still confusing


It's because they don't have COVID in North Korea you fuck. Show me some examples, no, show me just one example, just one, o n e, this number: 1, of a North Korean news outlet declaring that Covid isn't serious or that vaccination ain't worth the risks of side effects.


> China's anti-covid measures have proven how valuable and necessary these measures are in supporting the vaccines.
lmao. You mean like welding citizen's doors shut and hauling non-complaints straight to jail?
Yes, if only we were China.
This is probably why Trudeau praised China and just acquired emergency war measure powers to emulate them.


China: Like 3000 COVID deaths
USA: 900,000

yes I think we should be more like China


You really think China had only 3K Covid deaths in a country of over a billion people?
Such naivety. The US is also downplaying the total deaths.


Vietnam had like 30 deaths before the second wave hit.
It's perfectly possible in a normal society where you're unwilling to 9/11 your people every day so capital isn't mildly inconvenienced.


Why not? Everyone says that they lie, so much that I think that I think they are actually telling the truth about their numbers. About as much as they can at least. You can't be that precise.


China actually tried to eliminate COVID with so called 'authoritarian' measures (like building quarantine hospitals) rather than saying 'waaaa it's too hard uwu' so yes I believe their numbers


So what's the actual number, 6k? 9k? It would still be tiny compared to any other country. "NOOOOOO THEY'RE LYING IT CAN'T BE NOOOOOOO" is just burger cope


Yes they've eliminated covid, like you could have too, but you choose to flatten the curve. In the end, both you and China will relax all restrictions and everyone will get covid, just that in China that will happen under a weaker variant + vaccinated population + effective therapeutics. It's just a policy difference, little else.


>just that in China that will happen under a weaker variant + vaccinated population + effective therapeutics. It's just a policy difference, little else.
just like Europe: omicron + vaxx'd pop + a healthcare system that isn't collapsing.



There were US DoD funded biolabs in Kazakhstan as well weren't there?



The document that Pfizer promised to release about the vaccines has tons of redactions. Why? Because they are clearly hiding something. Here is a long-ass thread about it:


From my limited understanding, they never really tested the side effects of the vaccine on other organs than the liver. The redacted parts imply huge problems in terms of side effects and efficacy.



Cope and project.


looks like nobody cares about the flu anymore


Still there tho.


>Pfizer CEO: Fourth shot of COVID vaccine "necessary"
where's the anprim flaggot, I wanna hear xit's take on this. 4th shot of the exact same vaccine. It will work! on making Pfizer stock go up and the CEO millions get booooooooooosted


dont care


dumb anti-vaxxer conservative drumpftard

how about you learn science, you science-denier? you will get boosted as many times as they tell you, that's science!


man you surely know me well


sry I thought you werent joking. Irony is so hard when the same shit is told unironically a few reddit boards over


I will put the third one sometime in april, now im busy.


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I'm kinda tired of wearing masks outdoors tbh
are these even proven to work? not the masks themselves you retarded libs, but wearing them outdoors.


Depends, are there crowds of pedestrians with you outside lad?
The masks aren't to protect you it's to lower the risk of spreading the Rona if you happen to have it and don't know it


>are there crowds of pedestrians with you outside lad?
Not really, I live in the periphery of a smallish (200k pop) city.
I wish the central gubmint took these things in consideration but alas I'll have to wear the mask outdoors for an indefinite amount of time.


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new exposure risk calculator just dropped, mostly for indoor gatherings


Storeshittistahn's Covid response so shameful it convinces a burger right libertarian that treating the uninsured through public health spending is a good thing
>This would be slightly less infuriating if it weren't all so predictable. Two years ago, as Congress was debating the first round of COVID emergency funding, I wrote that lawmakers would "end up spending money we don't have to solve a crisis that can't be fixed by spending more money."

>I was not completely correct. Funding COVID treatments for the most vulnerable was and will continue to be a worthwhile public investment. But it's a damn shame that so much of the COVID relief money spent over the past two years went to everything except COVID relief.




Get the coof and die.



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new COVID symptoms just dropped


>new symptom : being sick
No way


Nothingburger, I still have to wagecuck tomorrow.


Now that Covid is over, China is being ridiculed and disparaged for ever attempting to eliminate it, and there are absolutely 0 NPI being enforced anywhere in the world, I think it's time to talk about how many clinical studies have begun to come out that ALL AGRRE that even mild cases of Covid-19 cause significant cognitive impairment and does irreversible, observable brain damage, and only the specific mechanism by which this is happening is uncertain right now.


Severe brain inflammation, neuronal death, bleeding the brain, decline of gray matter, observed across all covid-19 studies of humans, monkey, mice, even in cases with *no respiratory symptoms*.


That's a Britishism for 'throwing up' in case you didn't know


I guess the bourgies had to do something to replace leaded gasoline.

Personally I had COVID and I don't really /feel/ dumber… but then who knows, I wasn't exactly the brightest screwdriver in the toolbox before anyway.


The brain damage might translate to faster aging of the brain. You'll go senile at 70 instead of 80.


I wish I was in China. My stupid country even stopped mask-wearing. I had covid and while it was mild, I still have a cough a month later, and feel more tired, insomniac and brainfogged than usually.


Well shit, none of us are gonna live that long anyways.


I will.


Sure, man, sure. Nobody on this site is gonna get their names on the list for saving in the domed/underground bourgie colonies.


>Severe brain inflammation, neuronal death, bleeding the brain, decline of gray matter
but enough of last evening. Where were we at?


My favorite new covid symptom:
>feeling sick or being sick
Took me 3 months to recover. I feel ok now. I've been getting more retarded as I age but more knowledgeable which is nice. Marxism really does give you analytic skills which are pretty powerful. I need to brush up on math though, probably never going to do that….
Krautanon, now that restrictions are being lifted in Germany, do you think Covid is over or are they going to come back with new restrictions?
Are mass protests back on the menu with no covid restrictions and 20-50% higher food prices?


>Took me 3 months to recover. I feel ok now
That's great to hear, anon. I really hope I recover in due time as well. Best of luck in your studies!


Are chinese really starving because of the lockdown and sky high prices of groceries or is this westernoid propaganda??


How do other countries look, can't really infer anything definitive from this


opinions on the boosters?
they don't seem effective and allegedly there are a shit ton of newly listed negative side effects.
but there's gonna be several more waves if the government of burgerstan continues to be this incapable


Got covid after I just took my third booster and so did my boyfriend. None of us got any symptoms while our unvaccinated daughter got pretty sick. At the same time most of your friends got sick and in their families it was a noticeable difference between people who had gotten two shots and people who had gotten three. All of the boostered ones were pretty much symptom free. Anecdotal evidence sure, but I don't think you can say that boosters are ineffective.


At the outset, trading a million lives (way, way more than the original worst case scenario which was hundreds of thousands) to meet 3Q GDP growth targets was seen, rightly, as the rationality of truly dystopic capitalism. Now, this view is implicitly accepted as the correct, moral consensus, and those who would choose lives over USD as derided as the true dystopics. Just something to think about, eh.


What they lack are fresh deliveries for logistical reasons. Chinese care about fresh produce much, much more than other people. Their diets are much higher quality than ours lol and are made of few preserved and canned or frozen foods.


didn't bother getting the vaccine so doesn't really apply


Google Covid neuronal death, since you like to do your own research.


yeah have you seen the screeching videos


seems speculative at best


I find the pushback to the starvation claims on weibo to be amusing since people pull the “when I was a kid I ate only porridge everyday and my parents rendered all the fat from strips of beef and used that to flavor our food for weeks and we were considered well fed” card. Lel. They have plenty of grains and shit they just want their veggies.


Honestly, from in China, this just makes Shanghai look like a bunch of arrogant, whining cucks who did this on purpose because they wanted “western style” Covid policy and I predict this vulgar response will be the legacy and Shanghai’s clout will be severely diminished. They have had to deal with 1/10th the ordeal Wuhan did and responded with 10x the whining.


It’s reproduces by literally every single study lol. It’s emerging as an established fact and nobody wants to deal with it at this point because they’ve declared “Covid is over” and “it’s just a cold”. Yes it’s just a cold that caused brain damage equivalent to 2-10 years of aging.


yeah we'll see doubtful how serious it is though


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Just. Google it. I’m not lying when I say every single study shows the same result.


i googled it and the CEO of the Googles says you're wrong and a schizo


>Spike protein induces neuronal death in mice
>before and after images of “mild” case found pronounced reduction in grey matter and am increase of of diffusion indices in specific regions of the brain
>People who had recovered from COVID-19, including those no longer reporting symptoms, exhibited significant cognitive deficits versus controls when controlling for age, gender, education level, income, racial-ethnic group, pre-existing medical disorders, tiredness, depression and anxiety. The deficits were of substantial effect size for people who had been hospitalised (N = 192), but also for non-hospitalised cases who had biological confirmation of COVID-19 infection (N = 326). Analysing markers of premorbid intelligence did not support these differences being present prior to infection.

And on and on


ok but both the vaccine and a natural case come with the spike protein.


Which vaccine are you taking about? You know there's multiple covid vaccines that are functionally different ?

Actually, you probably don't, since you're a truther


looks speculative at best


looks like china is fukt


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Shanghai bastards.


Are these cases restricted to Shanghai?
If not, the CPC should just flatten the entirety of the city for treason


The PLA*


It’s not possible to contain it within Shanghai.


Basically while Shenzhen locked down at 100 cases and cleared their outbreak in a well, Shanghai attempted to do some light restrictions to get out of zero Covid in a managed way, and the result was cases exploding because of Omicron, and half a million Chinese will be dead by this time next year.


I hate how we're all supposed to act like none of this ever happened, and is still happening.

>Go back to work peasants


Zero-COVID strategy drives Omicron cases down across China


Proof that public health measures work and technological measures (vaccines, drugs) are at best a bandage on an open wound.


all public health measures are deployed along with technological measures though


So after the entire narrrative collapsed I guess we should pretend it never happened. Okay.

I will never forget this.



It doesn't matter what you think. They have the best dashboards, the best live data and society has been conditioned over the last 2 decades to be controlled by social media. All the incentives are in place for established powers to cause a pandemic whenever they feel a threat to their power.

When you have access to live social media data, the dashboard, the media and levers of power, it seems like it's endgame for the citizens? I don't think people realize this. Is democracy over ffs?

We have to change the incentive structures.




reported for being lenin hat


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No one can beat the good ole USA at sacrificing over a million people for a pandemic to not shutdown the economy.


I was going to be snarky but man it's funny realizing how the economy is melting down anyway



>Lose GDP, Keep workers : you can get the GDP in another day.
>Keep GDP, Loose workers : you lose GDP and Workers.
>Xi Jinping.


well if the cuba-iran open source vaccine is off the ground finally then i hope the us IP isn't needed


1 million dead americans


Victims of liberalism


Who's ready for monkeypox?



moderna/pfizer have spike protein

i stupid now




Tested positive for covid last Friday lads.


Only cause can be bile in the sanguine, not looking good for you. That's why you should keep some basil in your pocket.


Get well soon, comrade. This board won't be the same without you.


>the west and especially burgerland has allowed covid to run just completely rampant


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Keep us updated. Post videos.


How can I distinguish if I have Long Covid or/and ADHD and depression?


I'm mostly fine now, just feel a bit tired and sometimes coughing.


Caught corona again, so this thread is once more relevant. Last timeI had it was September last year. Still have my sense of taste and smell, but feel like absolute shit. Double-vaxxed (last year), but looks like it didn't help. Feel way worse than first time, 21 days after 2nd vaxx dose.

Every bone in my body aches, coughing fits leave my throat sore, keep blowing my nose. I thought it was the flu, because this is how a flu feels for me, but PCR says corona. Probably omicron or something after. My eyes hurt, I want to sleep but I can't, I've been in a delirium between wakefulness and sleep since yesterday.

Caught it at a punk festival this weekend. Who would've thought partying and moshing for three days straight with no sleep on weed, speed and beer with hundreds of punks all over Europe in a crowded, mostly closed and unventilated venue could have given me corona?!

But at least I'm good for the summer. Plus I got a week off work, nobody doubts the corona.

did you have adhd/depression before covid?


>did you have adhd/depression before covid?
Depression yes, but adhd no. Although adhd maybe is exaggerating it and I only lack motivation.


The reinfection of covid are gonna be brutal to some people, even the young. We will pray for your lungs.


I used to think I had depression, turns out it was ADHD.
So far it has been a dry, heaving cough. I heard you have lung problems if they fill with liquid.


Good luck comrade, uncritical support for your immune system against roundboi imperialism.


Cognitive Impact of Severe COVID Is Equivalent to 20 Years of Aging, Study Finds

We all know that COVID-19 can lead to lingering fatigue and brain fog. But one of the most rigorous examinations to date of the long-term cognitive impacts of severe infection has just yielded some pretty unsettling results.

In a study comparing 46 severe COVID-19 patients with 460 matched controls, researchers found the mental impacts of severe COVID-19 six months later can be the equivalent to aging 20 years – going from 50 to 70 years old – or losing 10 autism score points.

"Cognitive impairment is common to a wide range of neurological disorders, including dementia, and even routine aging, but the patterns we saw – the cognitive 'fingerprint' of COVID-19 – was distinct from all of these," says neuroscientist David Menon from the University of Cambridge in the UK, who was senior author of the study.

But the researchers suggest the likely culprit isn't direct infection, but a combination of factors: including reduced oxygen or blood supply to the brain; clotting of vessels; and microscopic bleeds.



USA fucking up big time if this is the case


USA is already run 100% by senile people so it makes no difference really


We are probably going to keep finding out new fucked up things that covid does to people.


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Prof. Jeffrey Sachs:

"I chaired the commission for the Lancet for 2 years on Covid. I'm pretty convinced it came out of a US lab of biotechnology […] We don't know for sure but there is enough evidence. [However] it's not being investigated, not in the US, not anywhere."


Piling up more retardation on the most retarded country because of their retarded policies makes perfect sense.


Havent gotten a covid or a single flu or cold since covid started. Also don't wear a mask anywhere anymore and do whatever the hell I want. feelsgoodman


>Not a medical scientist
I mean…


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>Just reporting the findings of a team of medical scientists from one of the top medical science publications in the world
Come on anon…



american healthcare really is that bad, and covid 19 really does have long term symptoms

too big for this board




<vaccination does not appear to be protective against long-COVID features, arrhythmia, joint pain, type 2 diabetes, liver disease, sleep disorders, and mood and anxiety disorders.
<we've now shown that vaccination appears to offer no protection against the long-term autoimmune effects of COVID
<our vaccines don't stop transmission, and don't appear to stop long-term illness
ok schizo


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BA.5 exploded to 50% of all US cases.

>An important feature of the variant is its fitness, which is the composite of lineage growth, basic reproduction number, extent of immune-evasion and generation time. From an analysis of 6.4 million SARS-CoV-2 sequences, here is the fitness plot, and note that BA.2 is at the upper right, whereas BA.5 would be well off the chart for maximal fitness.

Brandon asked vaccine makers to update new vaccines for BA.5 but I doubt the CDC is even going to talk about it.


I wonder why the actual team itself didn't say that covid was a us bioweapon…


Should I be concerned this is increasing exponentially


About half the intensity of the Influenza virus mutations.



Boomer producer.


>boomer remover
not bad
>boomer producer
very very bad not good


update. Just got a cold or covid or donno what. I slipped up somewhere and didnt hand sanitize probably. its germy fuck season in america right now, avoid touching public surfaces


>reduced oxygen or blood supply to the brain
this isnt about masks right


How many of those medico-fascist restriction do you think will be enforced in the upcoming fall and winter? My suspicion is that they will be directly tied in with the Ukraine situation and the inflation caused by the war so instead of suffering from inflated prices and supply chain disruptions we will just be barred access in the guise of fighting against a virus.

Will there still be life-threatening repressions this time for people who didn't get their 4th shot with an outdated and untested drug?

I feel like that's coming.


wearing a mask is not going to significantly reduce oxygen to the brain.


I'd be more concerned with microplastics than a lack of oxygen.


Lots of people missing their appointments cuz they're covided these times. Perhaps because nobody gives any more shit to social distantiation.
What NATO screeching and no oil do to MFs


anecdotal report incoming.

Finally got infected. Ironically during a 7 day period with almost no contact with people.

It felt like no other illness I've ever had. It came on in 20 mins, One minute I was making coffee, 20 mins later_full_ flu-like aches and weakness. Almost zero throat or lung or sinus symptoms. 10 bright red spots on one calf was an unusual symptom, looked like a buckshot. Took 2 aspirin each day for 2 days.

Literally 48 hours later exactly it stopped, like taking off a heavy coat. Back to 90% health maybe. Some chest congestion for the following week, along with massive demotivation, brain fog and weakness. Probably back to 100% now 3 weeks later.

Leaving that aside, I can't stop thinking about the fact that this could be how they could govern now. All the incentives are in place.

Local or national population causing a ruckus with their strikes or whatever? Release the special variant you've prepared earlier, or that your powerful ally has provided. Then send in the mobile auto turrets.


just get the jab anon, it's really not that bad


you can solve all that by getting injected


by now why ont you leave him alone? Do you still wanna argue for the jab, lol? What did it even do


mate it would have been even worse without the jab. I mean yeah people still get COVID but rarely die of it, the partial immunity has forced it to become a more infectious/less severe variant


>mate it would have been even worse without the jab
proof? Or you know what, just keep it. I am so out of that shit. Either it kills me or I couldnt give less of a fuck. And yeah I had it already too. Who hasnt.


well have to talk about the left in this big pharma moneygrab eventually, and your delusion will not spare you from that


yes anon lets give up on all medicine because its produced by private corporations


Total anecdotal experience, could be full of shit: Every person, especially the boostered ones, who got the jab got COVID with medium-heavy symptoms. Every unvaxxed person, including myself (and I've been in crowds almost every day) that I know didn't get COVID OR at least had very very mild symptoms. Also all the boostered people I know have all kinds of injuries, heart problems, constantly get sick, etc. - I think if you get the vaccine (remember it's not actually a vaccine, it's MRN or Vector technology) once it's fine, but three times in a row it sort of fucks you up.

I'm absolutely unafraid of the virus. It really only endangers people at risk, elderly, those with lung cancer. And plus, why does the government go so far as to ruin people's lives of they don't get the vaccine (attacking their social security, jobs, etc.) but for the Influenza nothing has been done at all? Shouldn't Influenza vaccines be mandatory? 2019 20k people died in the US alone just by Influenza.

Leave me the fuck alone. I got people in this thread hoping that I would die about a year ago. Fuck all happened. The virus is in its 5th or 6th mutation now, it really is endemic.


>>1064509 (me)
Also, every person who got boostered and got sick as fuck uses the excuse "thank god I got vaccinated, otherwise I would have died"

Absolutely hilarious.


there won't be any real restrictions
but I wish we lived in the world of fasc imagination
u wot

>could be full of shit



>total anecdotal experience
>says retarded shit
many such cases


anecdotes aren't evidence, but also, what even would be your mechanism for how having a vaccine could make someone's response to COVID be worse? Surely it would do nothing in the absolute worst case? The COVID jabs don't even use live virus so you can't actually contract COVID from them in any case.


I was one of the only vaxxed and boostered people in my store when nearly my entire team was out with COVID and I was one of the only people on my team who never got it, even after nearly the entire store had gotten


Have you ever considered that the unvaxxed people who did suffer seriously from it did not live to tell the tale?

t. boosted that barely felt anything when I was positive.


Idk about it making infections worse, but I got three vax shots and it caused me heart problems so distressing I went to the hospital and I’ve had fucked up vision problems ever since


Fuck finally got covid I think. Omnicron is infectious aa fuck, I dodged covid all the way up until now and was doing everything normally. Though… it felt like the weakest cold Ive ever had. Throat was scratchy for a day, then partial sniffles and tiredness for a few days. I was vaxxed back in December so maybe I was still good or maybe I got a really low viral load.

I gave it to my gf and she got screwed (maybe because I gave her a higher viral load). Fever, chills of 102 and heavy muscle aches and headaches all around for two days now.

Now I'm worried about long covid, though they said omnicron has lower rates of it like 4-5% compared to the 10% of delta. Apparently even vaxxed people that had only mild covid can get long covid later. But vaccines help by reduce clotting risk and shortness of breath risk by 50%.

Watch out anons I would def say its more infectious now than before and burgerstan is in full covering it up mode. This shits probably a bioweapon, viruses don't give people brain fog for years..


Yeah, I also lost my undefeated status this week, got jabbed twice with pfizer's mystery liquid in jan and feb, and so far it inflammation feels really really annoying on my upper respiratory tract but otherwise I'm feeling fine on every other respect, no fever no chills barely any fatigue, muscle aches or cough.

My rightoid relatives behaved like bug chasers on 2020 on got it relatively earlier, one of them lost their sense of taste for like 9 months, that sounds awful lol.


Why didnt anyone lislisten to me when i gave covid medical advice


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/pol/ having a normal one


wtf i have a parasite fetish though


Ascended schizophrenia


Shay I'm asking for real, why are you so disgusting?


i watched tentacle rape hentai a lot at a young age


my mom still hasn't gotten her normal sense of taste back and she got it back in january 2021.


Why would that give you a parasite fetish and not a tentacle rape fetish?


well first it was tentacles, then it was egg-laying, and then it was eggs hatching. and those eggs were hatching inside rather than outside.



animorphs gave me a brain slug parasite kink.
bartimaeus trilogy made my vore fetish worse and added a posession fetish.
hardly alone


parasite brainwashing is top tier porn content


Who needs brainwashing if you can just directly control them?
Not like they can do anything. Not even squirm.


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>I'm feeling fine on every other respect
Well scratch that - I'm "feeling" fine but I can't fucking sleep and my arm hurts a little.
It's clotting right lads? I guess I'm heading to the doc but I guess a little aspirin will do for now.


Can u link me ur protocol again i lost it and might need it now


bro don't ruin this for me


I know dem feels. It really sucks losing that v card. I'm pretty sure the hand sanitizer must have killed some of the viral load off because I didn't get any whole body symptoms aside from fatigue. I'm getting really paranoid about the brain fog and neurological long covid potential shit now though


Vaccinated are now at a higher risk of being hospitalized or dying than unvaccinated.



So ive had covid twice.
>take an aspirin each day youre sick to prevent the microclotting that destroys your heart and lung tissue
>vitamins c and d for immune support
>mucinex to dry up your lungs and prevent pneumonia
>nyquil to sleep because youre not gonna be able to sleep otherwise
>lots of fluid like gatorade or water
>if you live in america and only get 10 days of sick leave then only take those sick days once the covid migrates to your lungs because thats when its most important to rest


Take home tests are less than worthless. I took 2 following all the instructions and looked super close negative both times. I took a molecular test and was positive. Don't even bother wasting money on those


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>super close negative
It's called positive. Read the instructions. All three tests agreed.


reason i never got the vax


Guys im terrified. Am i going to get long covid and be retarded for life now? death to amerikkka for giving me this shit, cant wait to see it all burn down


No I meant I looked super closely with a flashlight and it was clearly showing negative. Then the molecular showed positive, the take homes are garbage


>>take an aspirin each day youre sick to prevent the microclotting that destroys your heart and lung tissue

I took 2 aspirin each of the 2 days that I felt sick, only because of flu-like aches. Nice to hear that I was protecting heart and lung tissue too.

Seems like a sensible treatment protocol, where's it from?


Unless you have some preconditions or are above 80 years old there is a microscopic chance anything will happen to you beyond the symptoms of a regular flu (influenza).

The "long COVID" shit was always a meme. There is "long influenza" too, hell, you could even have long term impairments due to a regular cold.

Just be glad you got the "recovered" status when the next wave of repressions fly in by fall and winter.


Unlikely. You'll maybe still feel like shit for a month or three afterwards.
It took me a month before I felt non-retarded.


where's ur lenin hat, bro


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>NEW - North Korea says 99.98% of its nearly 5 million "fever patients" since late April have fully recovered.

>The country has a near 0% vaccination rate.

What are we to make of this?(use the general + dumb bait)


>not in general
didn't read and kept not reading. reported


Long Covid is not bullshit but it’s just politically incorrect to talk about it lol. Covid fucks up your cognition, can create long term problems and can activate other diseases. You should absolutely want to avoid or mitigate it.


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>it’s just politically incorrect to talk about it


I've spoken to people that claim to have long COVID and idk, they are jobless, in debt, and poor as fuck, seems like it is real to me, otherwise why wouldn't they just get a job like they had before COVID


does anyone have a source on the mysterious flu-like illness that struck america in like 2018 and was probably covid from a lab-leak?


No, it's bullshit. With as infectious as it is, and the absence of any type of containment response, it wouldn't have taken until l2020 to get a full-blown pandemic. Also: fuck you Shay.


Funny to think about how when the whole covid shit started anons here were making posts about purposefully getting it and and finding sneaky ways to infect bougies as a form of biological warfare kek


It was a lot deadlier back then, and a number of low-level porkies and politicians actually died. Now it just has a chance of giving you dementia.


Is there any truth to the mass vaccine die off /pol keeps shilling? I'm sure there's been vaxed people that have died, likely not totally due to the vax. But the way they talk about it is like vaxed people are dropping like flies shortly after the shot.


>Is there any truth to [anything] /pol keeps shilling


ive been vaxxed all the way with no side effects

dont listen to anything /pol/yps are pushing


80% of my country is vaccinated, no huge spike in deaths.
Yep it's bullshit


I got vaccinated. Then I liked universal healthcare even more because I and my family didn't have to pay to be treated. Then I just walked out. No lines any of the 3 times we went; shot 1, shot 2, booster. Different places each time. Great day out with the family, sluggish next day eating leftovers and watching classic Spencer Tracy films with Grandma then back to normal.


I saw a /pol/yp complaint that after all their friends got vaccinated they appeared like zombies, with sluggish movements, sunken eyes, and brain fog. then I realised it was fake because what /pol/yp has friends?


So what's with this shit about Biden getting covid? Do you think he'll be fine or is he fucked?


All the vaxx did was make me sleepy for the day and then I was right as rain.


He dead


Biden have such puddle for brain that long Covid might actually be an improvement.


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The question isn't even that IMO. The vaccine was pushed to restore order, not to safeguard people. There was never an interest to contain the virus in any meaningful way, just slow it down a bit so that hospitals wouldn't be flooded with moribund people. They immediately normalized that getting the virus is inevitable (it wasn't) that their criminally negligent management of the virus was the only way, and that forced vaccinations were justified. China disproved this for 2.5 years straight and of course the cope is to accuse China of everything, from inventing the virus, lying about number of infected, and containing it with 1984 Mind Control Stalin Hitler Authoritarianism.


I agree. But it still rings my alarm bells, that the only vaccines available in the West are MRNA tech or vector vaccines. Sinovac is still verboten and even the pseudo-inactivated vaccine Valneva is not released yet, at least not in my country.

With all the schizo shit out of the way, this just seems like a huge cashgrab for the pharmaceutical complex. China defeats the virus by social measures and beefs up their medical system. Meanwhile, the efficacy of Western vaccines seems to be rather marginal.

If you look at their testing policy during the vaccine rollout, the testing policy when mandates where lifted, and all that shit, you inevitably arrive at a conclusion that it's all working in tandem to maximize profits despite all contradictions. And then you see the vaccine being promoted as a miracle cure, so you start asking questions. That's why I am distrustful who calls for more forced measures against the so-called unvaccinated which seems more like a cultural signifier to me than a sincere demand.


I developed severe chest problems and heart palpitations with the booster, and have had visual snow syndrome and eye floaters ever since, don’t believe people saying there are no side effects and it’s all /pol/, I legit have to learn to live with my eyesight being fucked up for the rest of my life


We're on the same page. Everything regarding this COVID situation has left me astounded at the capacity to profit over anything, particularly health and death. The western powers, and by that I mean companies and the politicians they buy and give scripts to, are entirely cynical. It is hard to believe that these super organisms are made up of humans. Worse still is that very likely 90+% of the humans that make up those super organisms think they are moral and usually do the right thing. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The corollary here is that Capital bends good intentions to its will.


>China defeats the virus by social measures and beefs up their medical system. Meanwhile, the
Do you have a evidence of this from a non Chinese source?


One day you won't even remember the difference


>what even would be your mechanism for how having a vaccine could make someone's response to COVID be worse?
Pretty simple. If the "side effects" (really just the normal effects of the stuff your immune system is supposed to respond to) are not merely transitory, but at least somewhat permanent, you can still be dealing with the effects of the vaccine when you get actual covid, and then the effects of the covid add on top of the effects of the vaccine.


But you do know that simple medical drugs like ibuprofen and such has also side effects, right? That is, for some people. What is the maximum percentage of people with side effects that is acceptable? I can assure a 100% effective vaccine of anything is impossible.


One day maybe, but I’d rather have a lifetime of normal vision over the burger vax


Yeah I didn't get the vaccine either


Don't really care.
The side effects of the vaccine sounds pretty bad compared to how unlikely it is to get covid


>last 2 weeks
>work with a coworker who refuses to wear a mask for 2 weeks straight in a cramped room, 12 hours a day
>she tests positive and has heavy symptoms
>I barely get a runny nose for 2 days, and test negative on 2 pcr tests and 1 antigen test taken during the last two weeks


Yeah but I don't care in return. Some incredibly useful medical drugs have a 1% or 2% chance of heavy side effects. I don't care. They are useful. Tough luck if you had unwanted effects. And now because the US is a free country that lets barbarians dictate policy and run outside without Polio vaccines, they will have a Polio outbreak. these barbarians maybe don't die, but travel to poor countries without vaccines and reintroduce the virus/bacteria there.


I'm involved in a political campaign right now in my country (municipal level). I have to knock on doors to collect signatures so that our candidate may run.

I can tell you from first hand experience that COVID-19 is still very relevant WHILE the media has moved onto Ukraine and so on. I knock on at least one door a day where the potential voter tells me s/he can't come out due to being infected.


U got lucky?


An odd comparison to make because the Polio vaccine is actually a sterilizing vaccine that prevents the spread of Polio. The COVID vaccines are not.


no shit anon

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