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I just watched the 'UK IS DYING AND I NEED TO VENT' video and I think we can all agree there is no hope for anyone in this country whatsoever, except for the landlords and triple locked pensioners, so with that said should we all go abroad? If so then where? Or should we just do our best to find a way to make it in this country? Maybe I should go teach English in China, but moving away from what I know is scary.
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>>2221983
that's what I mean, the same BBC who said he was anti semitic is finding it harder and harder to defend Israeli terror without saying what Jeremy said

The only good Angloid is a dead one. Up the Ra.

but I'm half Irish Mr CIA

W*men.


>>2226568
Is the legal definition of a man "not a woman" now? Why didn't they need to define both? Or did they?

when is sir Keir starmer going to ban 'gooning'?

Honestly, do people at the Guardian or UK media in general every notice the cognitive dissonance when they have "hard discussions" about the Muslim community, and things like a potential Islamophobia definition, then remember how they acted towards anybody who dared even inferred the Jewish community might be the slightly bit biased toward Israel, or that the Antisemitism defintion was clearly going to be used to attack critics of Israel, and mentioning Israel or Zionism at all as part of an "Antisemitism" defintion was clearly not really justified?
It honestly comes off pretty mental that literally you have half of Parliament against a Islamophobia definition because of "Free Speech" but these exact same people were in meltdown over people criticising the clearly bad faith IHRA definition, that actually has been used to shut down free speech.
Like honestly how did Guardian journos actually bring themselves to go around with David Baddiel and pretend that Antisemitism was "the only form of bigotry not taken seriously in the UK", fucking unreal.
>>2222141
Never forget that 2 UK elections were basically rigged by Israel and it's lobby groups like the BoD, CAAS, LAAS, JLM.
Reminder that the Jewish Labour movement was literally refounded in 2016 by an Israeli lobbyist for the express purpose of taking down Corbyn.
Reminder that Israeli UK embassy officials put bounties on the heads of MPs that were "not loyal to Israel".

>>2226601
They were always going to make the incorrect ruling and oppress transgenders and transhumanism. The UK is a shithole where nobody can get a gun, so the elites and thinktanks have nothing to fear from minorities.

When stuff like race changing, species bending, or even simple mechanical augmentation starts taking off, they're going to look back on the backlash and oppression of transgenders and realize that violence is the only path to liberation. Society is heading down a dark path where words means nothing and slaughtering your enemies means everything.

The era of barbarism, since we chose against socialism.

Prynhaun da

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looks like terf island is official

>>2227573
why do they need to frame it from the perspective of one sex? Couldn't they just say 'biological sex' without referring to either?

>>2227573
'terf island' is a psyop from upper/middle class trans americans to make ignorant trans allies and booj trans in the US to feel grateful for what they have and keep their mouths shut despite the fact trans people in their country literally die through either suicide or murder explicitly relating to their trans identity.

>>2227573
Transgender ideology supporters are idealists that ignore biological and materialist contexts, anyone claiming to be transgender cannot have a dialectical materialist worldview.

>>2227613
What about transsexuals who biologically and materially modify their sex?

>>2227573
How did TRA's think they would win this? They have no definition of a woman that isnt constantly morphing gobdlygook every time there is a new Trender goalpost shift.
>>2227613
Yep, it's largely based on metaphysical gnosticism. I think there is a strong argument for a third "non-binary" offical gender category, but denying the material reality, socialization and experiences and biology of biological women is a pretty dangerous step to take, and one I think the left massively misfired on.
The reality is as well, the TRA movement is extremely aggressive cult like and doesn't take questions or any constructive criticism well, and engages in mass censorship and abuse of people who dare even ask clarifying questions. I know for a fact, within the left, probably only a large minority unquestionably support TRAs (this is backed up by polling on specific positions as well, almost nobody in polling supports Transwomen in sports competing with biological women for example, yet on the left you have to pretend to support this shibboleth), but the rest have to stay quiet because they know the sort of "bigotry" blowback they get for speaking out.
Even here on Leftypol it's the quickest way to get banned, even if you are critiquing TRA Liberalism from a clearly Marxist/Materialist position, and almost no major Communist party supports the TRA ideology.

>>2228563
>TRATRATRA
What the fuck is a "Tra".

>>2228621
Trans-Rights activist

>>2228563
If women can't compete against transwomen in sports (including intellectual ones like chess) then why should women ever be allowed to vote or take critical positions of power?

If you can't compete in a play-sport, why do you pretend you're as good as a "biological man" in something like running a company or nation?

PS: if you deported every transphobe you would notice a 92% reduction in the rightwing party according to polling. It is the most effective identifier for a rightoid, even outclassing things like "do you define yourself as a fiscal conservative" or "do you hate blacks" or "do you hate the poor"

also: caring about "women's sports" is petty boog shit. Sex segregation should be abolished (by force) and bad actors like rapists or misogynists or misandrists whatever who take advantage of this should be killed, en masse.

The real reason why lib-feminists bring up sports is because they want to use it as a trojan horse to market nazi ideas. Every TERF is also a nazi or has nazi-adjacent beliefs. They're almost all rich and/or white women who are desperate to make feminism about themselves instead of talking about real issues: human trafficking, labor rights for everyone, capitalist exploitation of undocumented women, etc.

But of course, modern feminists do not care about anything like that, it is apparent because they never fund efforts to combat capitalism or shelter poor people from the brutality of fascists. There needs to be a cultural revolution to kick these people all out of the country. We need a reset and realignment to what really matters.

The whole push of trans-ideology has been a conservative plot in the Anglosphere to cause infighting amongst socialists and left-wing groups and to discourage popular support for socialist political movement by portraying them as "looney left" in their mainstream media.

Only retards push for "Respectability politics" and "optics". Lib Shit.

The nazis didnt win by being respectful and wearing their mask, they seized society by taking it off and talking about how much they want to murder and slaughter their enemies. Just like how it doesn't matter 70% of the country thinks orange man is a criminal. All that matters is force and having a small enough minority (10-30% depending on the situation) willing to do anything to win.

Stop caring about what the other side thinks of you. It literally does not matter. Social acceptability and opinion is driven by who seized control of the levers of power, not the other way around. A dictator of the proletariat, not a fucking democracy of one.

Your two examples were able to control/had the backing of a significant proportion of the media with the backing bourgeois cash.

You're right "it doesn't matter" but only when you're on their side.

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>>2228860
>>2228864
Thermonuclear thrvth bomb from this anon i am afraid. Feminism as of today is just a grievance movement like zionism or diasporoid islamism, except they don't even put their bodies on the line like the other two and instead delegates the work to their leftist male submissives.
I disagree with your framing of terfs being "white nazi n shiet" it's a framing that's still stuck in cringe 2010 whitey bad leftism.
Outside of the UK in particular most terf and their allies are brown strivers, off-whites women, zogbots etc. They're very similar to the redpill manosphere in that aspect.
I agree they should be deported to their home country/el salvador and be politically disfranchised, though.
They also love to spend a big amount of time and political capital into demonizing young white males while ignoring brown male and muslim agressions i remarked. Netflix Adloscence brand of feminism. Gross.
This is why i always rejected the framing of terfs being right-wing, they do collaborate plenty with the right for sure, but it's because the latter got #raped so hard in the field of culture and ideas they became the old boomer left.
>"Everything is a social construct EXCEPT SEX!! Also don't you EVER EVER EVER EVER have sex with my daughter!!"
This is the only ideology the right and feminism have anymore.
>>2228926
uygha you people spent the last 20 years repeating the white man is evil, women are qveen even when they're not and islam is great now you wonder why everyone think you reeks of AIDS then you blame transhumanists for your impotence and unpopularity? Be serious you monkey.

>>2228965
>a you people spent the last 20 years repeating the white man is evil, women are qveen even when they're not and islam is great
Who is "you people"? I haven't, don't lump me in with a bunch of plebbit liberal freaks and even the vast majority of them haven't been doing that. You've just proven my point ironically, as its clear you get all your opinions from trash like the daily wail.

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>"Of course we threw away all our political and cultural capital tailling pop feminism, muslim preachers and insane anti-racist harpies against our working class for 35 years, but do you know err facking transhumanist want to play footy with the lass? That's the reason the left failed mate….. bloke in dress n bollocks want to steal our chippy"
- The Last LGSM Rioter before dying from AIDS at Leeds St James's University Hospital

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>"mate… the people rejected our gay degrowth MNWO radfem agenda because of transhumanists… what an evil wicked people these bloke with bollocks wearing dresses…"

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>"People were fine with turning their anglo-saxon neighborhood into LGB mosquee enclaves, hindu operated call centers with veiled weight-inclusive female mullah. People lived in peace…"
>…
>"until gender ideology came in…"
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

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>>2229013
Dennis Pennis weighing in on the trans issue

>>2229195
Do you think maybe all this recent bluster about 'the definition of not a man' is just bread and circus to distract from certain heinous crimes being conducted by a certain select chosen few?

>>2228710
How does "Trans Right Activist Ideology" make sense as a coherent phrase?

>>2228860
Maybe social constructs are the glue that holds a functioning society together?

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bin worker? the correct term is 'bin person'

>>2230597
I got really annoyed the other day when listening to the Today show and Prick Robinson was interviewing a Union official. The absolute hatred coming across from him, a mask off moment for him, but many such cases! so no surprise. How dare these workers strike when they’re trying to prevent wage and job cuts at a time when we’ve had relatively high inflation and housing prices have gone up, of course those on not much higher than the minimum wage should be the target of “tightening our belts” to make up for the clowns in charge fuck ups.

>>2230641
they are holding the public's quality of life to ransom, so I would fire all of them.

I hate this country and everything it stands for.
I hate our government, our politicians, out courts, our media, the population that cheers on bigotry, hatred, and the scapegoating and stripping of rights from minorities.
I hate the so called "Communist" parties that despise me and wish I didn't exist, that hold reactionary social positions, positions that are directly promoted to them and funded by American fascists and religious nationalists.
The CPB and CPGB-ML hold positions on trans rights that have been denounced as bigoted and hateful cultural war distractions by actual socialist states, Cuba and Vietnam.
The CPC recognises the rights of trans women to exist in social life, and allows people to use whatever facilities make the most sense, unlike the social fascists of the CPB, CPGB-ML or the UK Labour regime. The DDR had more progressive trans policies than either the CPB, CPGB-ML, or current UK regime.
This is a Barbarian Fascist Zionist TERF shithole beyond being saved and I hope it burns to the ground.
Nobody who cheers as my basic human rights are stripped away to draw attention away from the massive growing wealth inequality is a comrade of mine.
I'm currently awaiting medical treatment for a physical health condition but as soon as that's sorted out I'll be saving up to leave for Ireland where for now at least my humanity is respected.

I dare any of you to try to provide an example of how in any way this is a win for women's rights. Please, try to explain what new rights a woman now has.
Because women already had the legal right to create single sex spaces where only AFAB individuals were allowed.
There are no new women's rights, only rights stripped away from transgender people.

All this now means is that a trans woman who never even went through a male puberty due to hormone blockers, who has a female ID, who has a pussy and tits from surgery and hormones - will now be legally forced into men's toilets, men's hospital wards, into men's prisons, into being groped, strip searched and assaulted by police MEN if she's arrested.

The TERFs, courts, and government (all the same tbh) can't even decide yet if this ruling means trans people are forced to now use the wrong bathrooms, or are barred from sexed bathrooms altogether.
Let's evaluate both options.

If we're forced to use the wrong facilities, how are you going to enforce that? The only option is chromosomal identification checks at each toilet door. That's unenforceable.
Again, with that option, look forward to burly bearded trans men with cocks going into women's changing rooms and bathrooms. That's the law now.
Look forward to the inevitable many cases of brutal violence and sexual assault against trans women using men's bathrooms too.

And if it's the alternative option, and we can't use either space, then what do you expect trans people to do? To take up disabled people's spaces? To piss and shit against walls and in bushes?
Do you expect every business and building in the country to rush to build transgender or unisex bathrooms and facilities?
No, in fact businesses are already considered removing ALL bathrooms, or removing women's bathrooms to make a unisex space.

This is the dumbest shit imaginable and it won't take long for the consequences to now play out. But hey, at least you can call us men as much as you want to our faces again and we just have to take it. Well done, so Socialist of you. I feel sick to be on this fucking island.

>>2232400
>Almost three in five teachers said they believe social media use has had a negative effect on behaviour in schools

from this article:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm3x92mpdxo

what does "Almost three in five" mean? Two in five? What utterly meaningless garbage.

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>>2232429
another doozy:
>Queues built up as bin collections are took place in Woodgate Valley

what the fuck is happening, why is everyone a retard now?

>>2232429
Not sure how this corresponds to what I wrote, think you may be a retard.

>>2232508
nothing, I forgot to delete that.
That being said, you are talking about the shiny jangling keys they are waving in front of you.

>>2231774
The CPGB is the lamest org in the world. Their statement is somehow more cloying and establishment-y than that of the fucking Labour party.

>>2228563
As a point of "law" the pro-trans side had a very simple case:
1. They'd won their argument before in lower courts, and this was appealed upwards.
2: (this is a bit more long winded)
In 2004 the gender recognition act said that if you've got a certificate, your sex becomes what that certificate says for nearly all legal purposes (including not being able to marry someone or the same sex, or for the purposes of the sex discrimination act 1975)
In 2010 the equality act had protections for sec discrimination and also for gender reassignment. A rational interpretation of the government's intention at this point was to take an expansive view of rights, and that the GRA2004 affects this legislation like all others, since it doesn't specifically say "btw this doesn't apply to people who've got a GRC"
But instead, after a hearing where no trans people got to speak but anti-trans orgs could throw in ad-hoc statements at will, the supreme court has gone with "well when *this* law says women, it clearly doesn't mean everyone who is by-law a woman, it only means *common-sense* women*, not women who're legally women by virtue of a GRC. however it would also be proportionate to ban a trans man (logically, in this view, a woman) from single sex spaces too."
This effectively makes the GRA2004 worthless for those who don't like collecting certificates. It's a deranged interpretation of the intentions of the EA2010. (Cut out and keep that last sentence, it'll come up a lot!)
A good Marxist, or frankly any good politics understander, can see the motivations at play here. The law "isn't real", there isn't a magical "true" interpretation out there that the court finds -it makes one up when questions arise. so far as the law "is" real and the court merely interprets it, the supreme court's interpretation of it is deranged. What actually happened is that the people in power - including the judges! - don't like transgender people in public life and institutions serve the interests of power. It should be instructive for liberals: the law can't protect you when they're really out to get you.
You may agree with the outcome of the case, but the process has been transparently crooked. Scotland was allowed to pass gay marriage with no issues (despite it impacting on reserved matters) in a more socially liberal era, but then had its GRA reform bill vetoed for impacting on those same matters now that said liberal era is drawing to an end. The justification for this veto no longer holds thanks to this new interpretation of the EA2010, but it'll remain in place regardless. If things were running as they should, if institutions were fair and neutral, that would never happen.

The Judge who decided on the trans case formerly worked for the Church of Scotland, and informed their stance on gay rights.
Back then, he stated he believes homosexuality is a sin and that gay people must resist their urges to engage in any sexual activity, and it was his opinion that formed the church policy.

Why is a man with a history of stating his opposition to LGBT rights, and with strong links to the church, the one in charge of deciding the rights of every trans person in the UK?
Doesn't that seem like a conflict in interests?

The same man also met with 5 different TERF and anti-trans groups in deciding the supreme court case, and allowed them to present evidence and speak before the court.
He even went as far as to allow them to use evidence that wasn't submitted in advance, and so couldn't be viewed or questioned by the opposing side.
He, and the court, also refused to meet with single trans person or any pro-trans organisations, or to accept any evidence from them.

The entire thing is a farce. It will very easily be overturned as corrupt, nonsensical, and discriminatory by the ECHR, assuming we're still a member in several years time.
But if Farage has his way, we'll be out by then, and I can see Keir leaving the ECHR beforehand to try to win votes from Reform.

But by then we'll have seen trans people killed and committing suicide, so it will already be too late.
Until then, we have a literal apartheid for trans people, who can't use publicly facilities the rest of society are allowed to access.

As a final note: there is nothing communist about the CPB. The CPB hates minorities.
If you are a CPB member you might as well start wearing a swastika armband at this point.

>>2232732
probably about this sort of time that old adolf stepped in to simplify all of this bollocks.

>>2232732
One thing that has caused me slight but persistent annoyance is that, considering the whole debate revolves around the goal of equality, and I've asked this before to no avail, why isn't the ruling gender neutral? That is to say, why are they deciding 'when someone is a woman and when that matters'. Why aren't they extending this ruling to all? It seems suspicious to me.

>>2227613
That's just a word salad. You're using terms without knowing their meaning. Pathetic. Go read a book, or preferably, take a knife and slit your wrists.
>>2228563
>>2230167
Mask off. What's this about 'TRAs' being misogynistic? Die you sexist scum. There is no space for this in the moveemnt. Comrades Lenin, Stalin and Mao would be disgusted by what you just said. Take the flag off because you are closer to Nazis than anyone else. Aw, trans people are being mean to you? Bullying you on the internet? Grow the fuck up. We experience worse on a daily basis. We are going to hang you on a lamp post you fascist scum, you have no place in the socialist movement and in fact you are likely a /pol/ refugee. If we see you and know what you are saying, we will inflict physical violence on you.
>>2231774
Let's make our own group then, I've been trying to say this for years but nobody is actually going to do anything. It's right to shit on the social-fascist CPB, but we've got to take the next step after that.
>>2232400
YWNBAW? You won't be alive.

Full throated gender apartheid.
Trans people banned from bathrooms and being sexually assaulted by police officers.
Genital scanning software at the entrance to every cubicle or stall.
Men stationed in women's facilities, dragging butch lesbians and chemo patients out of cubicles.
Right wing so-called vigilantes harassing and detaining random queers for going outside.
People being forced to shit on the streets because they don't confirm to 1950s gender stereotypes.

This is what TERFS, the Labour government, and the Communist Party all agree on being the new normal.
We can only wait and see what our new Reform-Tory coalition will do 4 years from now. Probably sending trans people straight to the death camps.

>>2233108
I can only hope we get a even more severe pendulum shift away from this obsession with enforcing gender apartheid. We need radical post-humanism and post-genderism as a backlash.

>>2234130
>>2234130
>>2234130
>>2234130

Migrate you lovely lovely Fascists


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