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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
📺 News/events: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
📺 Hangout/chill: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast

Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • Crimea vs Taiwan: Who Gets Self-Determination? - BadEmpanada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_UH4fmyj0

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings
📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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• Try your best to not derail discussion too much from the main events and relevant places where the war is taken place, as well as other happenings, groups and public figures related to it.
• Meta discussion of the historical, philosophical and ideological background of the war is fine as long as its done in good faith and comradely.
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• this is /isg/ for people who treat geopolitics like shitty map games.
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>>2227138
Was british empire the superpower of its time?

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>>2227318

>>2227347
How does that accelerate crisis of capitalism?

>>2227288
That's a semantics game. The Soviets condemned geopolitics in the specific sense of the 20th century pseudoscience of the same name, i.e. hearthland/rimland stuff. Saying they called all analysis of power relations between countries bourgeois is an insane proposition. Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin all wrote extensively on the geopolitics of their time

>>2227189
>poor puten had to protect the interests of national bourgeosie

>>2227364
>hey anticampist, hey anticampist, hey, hey anticampist, KNIFE!

>>2227373
>marx, engels, stalin, lenin took sides in interimperialist conflicts
Stalin did. Long live butcher Putler who works tirelessly to bring revolutionary conditions

>>2227369
Overly reductive summary: The profit margin lost to automation can be offset with reducing costs through further immiseration. E.g the crisis of profit of the 70's was resolved through globalisation offshoring industry at lower wages. 2008 Was resolved through immiserating future domestic generations who would not be allocated the same volume of high wages and owned homes.
Naturally these cause political alienation and backlash that is then countered by the strength of capital to absorb/crush the blow. A regional capitalist power cannot renegotiate more immiseration elsewhere or domestically without political crisis if it is already in harsh competition with its equally strong neighbours suffering the same predicament.

>>2227387
Why 70s?

>>2227387
America is going to become socialist?

>>2227385
Marx explicitly took sides in the Crimean War and the American Civil War instead of banging his chest and sloganeering about how all war is bad and all bourgeoisie is the same, which is stupid reductive and undialectic

>>2227403
>those wars are totally the same as current war

>>2227359
why would having the USA as the unnopposed singular superpower be better?

>>2227369
how does having an American-led unipolar world accelerate the crisis of capitalism?

>>2227411
no but it goes to show that communists can and should have nuanced positions on war and "take sides", and the anti-campist position is reductionist

I am convinced that anti-campists are just pro-american chauvinists. If a major conflict between USA and China happens, they will turn full Kautsky and call for the defence of the 'muh freedoms' fatherland against the robotic chink aggressors.

>>2227399
>>2227402
>why 70's
as an example of the chain of logic. profit margins were too low to absorb geopoltical instability from oil shocks; creating stagflation and inflaming class tensions between capital and (relatively) powerful trade unions over competition for scarce surplus. This crisis was resolved in favour of capital because they still held hegemon over numerous colonial third world states who could perform industrial labour in worse conditions and gut the leverage of western labour to resist. if this was counterfactually not true and capitalist post-colonial states had the strength to resist in their own self interest. This crisis of capitalism would have to be resolved leftwards

>america is going to become socialist
the american left will have more opportunities to compete for power sooner if labour cannot be bought off through cheap treats at acceptable bourgeois profit margins thanks to periphery exploitation. As an example sahel states are already using geopolitical Russian support to develop internal industries that help their citizens but reduce global capitalist profits as their internal bourgeois take a cut.

>>2227427
There are no communists and there is no international communist party. If there was you wouldnt take sides. What is the point? Your support for russia wont change outcome.

Multipolaristas are just cheerleading at objective processes.

Multipolaristas is what you get when there is no international communist party

>>2227411
The American Civil War is actually extremely similar to this war

>>2227359
cold war allowed decolonization for example, and forced big socdems concessions out of the the imperial core. And being able to play the rivarly between superpowers rather than kneel to the hegemon or die will always be an advantage to smaller countries

>>2227447
<the 5th stage of grief: acceptance
you have no idea how many times over 4 years of threads the opposition cycle of: 1.projected chauvinism 2. ultra left critique 3.actually this all true and therefore you don't get to claim it as your position despite contrasting opposition.

>>2227361
yes, although even them were less hegemonic than the US is today

>>2227447
>just do nothing, processes happen on their own, no need to give political support to anything
yeah and ultimately the capitalism contradictions will lead us to communism, no need to organize to push for it!

>>2227473
I just wanted to argue. Im fine with the outcome

>>2227485
What are you saying i dont understand?

>>2227442
I can nudge the political landscape of my country to say fuck to ukraine and stop spending money and weapons to continue the war.
On the other hand, anti campist denunciation of russia play into the imperialist hand

>>2227485
>international communist party would totally support bourgeosie state bro

>>2227491
The rise of multipolarity, while a process that can seem inevitable, deserve to be supported as much as we can because it is beneficial to the communist struggle

>>2227189
lol some people actually believe that

>>2227495
Yeah it was totally you who forced the america to abandon stuff.

>>2227456
there cannot be an 'international' communist party. There will be communist parties for every nation, and these nations will assemble and discuss à la COMINTERN in an international organisation. AN 'international' communist party is ultra-leftist infantilism.

>>2227499
States and goverments are just doing their thing. Is this some kind of american narcissism?

>>2227495
So it wasnt the actions of russian military but you huh?

>>2227504
>>2227516
no it was Hasan and Contrapoints

>>2227447
'objective processes'
wtf does that even mean

>>2227526
I dont know, but it got a response so it probably means something

>states are historic subjects bro, it was russia and china that weakened the american hegemony. It was them bro

Great man theory and voluntarism but for states

Yup

Wait, so multipolaristas are hazoid larouchites?

>>2227521
No, it was Haz and magacoms, actually

I take it Russia has made gains.

NEW THREAD, Y'ALL!

>>2227689
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>>2226041
Djibouti is basically rent-a-base at this point. Their economy is about whoring to the highest military bidder. And quantity is prioritized over quality I suppose.

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>>2227411

>>2226219
Do I really need to join Discord servers to talk with strangers online? I'd prefer not to talk to teenagers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvynCKVfMWw
Great video by Glenn Diesen interviewing Aaron Mate talking about the collapse of the NATO narrative.

Everyone is on 8kun. This place is dead.


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