Am in the only one who finds the dude weed stoner trend of the late 90s early 2000s movies kind of suspicious. I mean for one weed doesn't even induce the effects portrayed by these movies. It's a mild hallucinogenic, not a downer like opium that relaxes your nerves. On the contrary it intensifies your emotions and even causes panic attacks and psychosis for some. And secondly why did it spawn an entire cultural movement surrounding this plant. Why does the system want us to smoke weed so badly? One might think it is antiethical to capitalism since it causes you to be lazy. And what is funny is it still considerrd a mild drug despite the fact that the potency of weed has increased by 300% since the 70s. Is the 420 movement a mechanism to get socialist types and outcasts to get hooked on drugs and avoid coming to terms with their decaying social conditions?
221 posts and 59 image replies omitted.>>2228718We're certainly having more fun than non-stoners
>>2228722It's simply an enjoyable past-time, like video games, or religion, or porn. What's with all the assumptions people have about stoners?
>>2220805As someone who literally involved in throwing Rainbow Gatherings, and spent more than my time doing psychs and around psychonauts, Weed is 100% a Psychedelic.
It's a mild one, but smoke a strong strain and you can be blasted off into a trip that feels 1:1 like a mushroom trip, wavy visuals, high saturation colour and all. The most obvious evidence Weed is a psychedelic is audio. Even on just a few tokes, music takes on a completely different level of dimension and complexity.
The difference is the "main psychedelics" shrooms, 2CB, LSD have far more of a "Philosophical"/"introspection" component + also having far more of a empathy component. 2CB in particular I used to call "MDMA + Visuals".
MDMA is not a psychedelic in any way, it's a very strong mood booster and anti-anxiety drug. Proper clean MDMA just makes you super empathetic and happy with a warm "rush" similar to Ritalin or Adderall or whatever.
>>2220164There is some theory that Hippy culture was pushed by the CIA but I've never found any strong links. The strongest link is that Pickard (main US LSD producer) was definitely "protected" from local law enforcement by FBI or CIA based on stories from his girlfriend who said he could just pick up the phone, call someone, hand it to state police, and they would back off from arresting him for drunk driving or trafficking drugs or whatever and this was across the country.
The main downside of Weed honestly is it just makes people lazy as fucking shit and boring as fuck. When my friends all became daily stoners, they all became super lazy, would stop showing up for anything that required effort like going out to a bar, and would flake on fucking EVERYTHING. People can hype up weed all they want, but it absolutely causes fatigue and intense brain fog which makes people lazy as fuck. I also think with all stoners, it hits a point where they start to become skittish and paranoid. Had even many dreadlocked friends stop smoking because the "paranoia" phase hits.
>>2228722Weed is 100% illegal everywhere outside of the US and Canada.
What places like Amsterdam have is basically don't ask don't tell. I doubt NZ or Australia or the UK or most of Europe will legalize weed until boomers all die out. NZ voted down it's weed referendum just a few months ago.
>>2220164Yes, OP. You are the only one.
Blaze it.
>>2228722Well, like most adults I don't react to games, religion, or porn as if narcotics. I'm not an addict with those things just like I'm not with pot.
People who use weed to escape their reality rather than augment it occasionally are indeed doing it wrong.
I'm sick of everyone seeing things as one of two extremes. There's a lot of gray in the world. MOST people who use marijuana - and that is a lot of them - just puff a little after work now and then to unwind rather than have a cocktail. It's not all fucking gutter junkies and churchboys. Sure there's the odd "stoner" burnout who gives weed a bad name. But these days he's just a drop in the ocean of responsible users who are making the world a better place by using fewer hard drugs and less alcohol.
>>2228772Fuck off, dude. You're just being contrarian with this complete opposite bullshit. You're not even subtle.
The average normal person does not have an insurmountable issue with paranoia. You have zero evidence to support that.
The cannabis industry would not be thriving if everyone who tried it freaked out like you, a fucking pussy. If there wasn't return business it wouldn't be a thing. What the fuck is wrong with you? How fucking stupid are you?
Duh, you're from 4chan. You're the exact type of fucking stubborn cunt who just repeats the same not only wrong, but fucking backwards points as if they're true. You're sick. You're broken in the brain. You're just a stupid troll who can't handle his weed. You just created a little fantasy where if you go to a forum and declare that everyone is like you and weed makes everyone nuts, it doesn't matter that everyone disagrees because you see "your truth" posted up there. I guess that's enough for you. You must be one of those younger "spectrum" people with some brain disorder that makes you incapable of flowing with society. You bristle and rebel against whatever there is regardless of having a believable position or any evidence to support yourself.
No one is falling for it. I doubt you're even convincing yourself, dumbshit.
>>2228784>The cannabis industry would not be thriving if everyone who tried it freaked out like youthe meth industry, gambling industry, and opiate industry are also thriving but their customers aren't exactly doing well
i think weed has destroyed your functioning brain cells
>>2228787>you retarded americansYep, a stubborn foreigner schizo from 4chan who just can't get it through his head. You don't have any fucking clue because whatever 3rd world shithole you're from is totally different. You have no frame of reference. Your opinion doesn't matter because your government probably tells you all sorts of stupid shit about weed. What you smoked probably wasn't even real weed at all. You freaked out because you smoked spice or something. Some shit you'd see on a Vice video where brown guys in masks spray down tables of catnip with weirdo chemicals and that's what the poverty stricken little idiots like you smoke in the alleys. No wonder you didn't have the chill experience an American driving in a convertible on the Pacific Coast Highway would have while smoking true Humboldt County Purple Haze.
I'm really sure China is going to invade my nation and make me into a slave.
I'm sorry but you can't stay. We don't want you here. Find some other alternative to 4chan. Your stupidity and stubborn rejection of objective reality doesn't fly here like over there, fucktard.
>>2228795Bait used to be believable.
Now go the fuck back.
>>2228795Lmao imagine writing all that shit thinking imma waste my time reading it.
Go back to your Amazon factory you retarded Israeli Chinese cattle
>>2228799lol, you're not on 4chan. You can't tell people to "go back" like anyone here gives a fuck about Reddit or thinks it's the enemy.
I'd tell you to go back but you have nowhere to go back to because it's dead. Fuck off.
>>2228800What schoolbooks? For who? You don't know what happens here, loon. You're just making up conspiracy shit out of your ass.
>"Americans teaching school children to legalize drugs through curriculum textbooks and the subversive TV shows, film at 11"Blow it out your crazy ass. No one is pulling strings from behind the scenes to dull the masses for a slave takeover, schizo. It's just weed, and the USA can't even agree from state to state. You're a fucking psychotic, you already admitted that; it's why you can't smoke weed without going crazy. You're biased and you're uninformed and worst of all you're stupid.
Seriously, you can't stay here.
>>2220173drugs can absolutely cause ego death
weed can't. but other drugs can. the main one people think of is acid/LSD.
it's also not like an ongoing thing. it's temporary. for a brief period of time you experience life without ego. not everyone likes it. some people change their whole life because of it. other people just say "that was neat" and move on.
I wouldn't recommend ever trying it unless you're ready for a wholly new experience that you can't ever be sure that you're actually ready for.
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