Declining birth rates or the demographics crisis is strictly a capitalist phenomenon. Anthropology will show that never in history has demographics been the cause of a declining society ever. The evidence shows that highly stratified societies are what led to stagnation and societal collapse beyond just invasion or war or natural catastrophe. Over and over again as societies have grown stronger and stronger you saw the rise of a highly stratified society with a small class at the top owning everything and poor toiling for very little.
History has shown that the demographics question is uniquely a capitalist issue with even economists during the industrial revolution coming up with Malthusian economics. It’s particularly unique to industrial capitalism since capitalism requires growth and a growing population is required to continue to absorb the ever increasing number of commodities coming to market.
>>2220336Yeah OP doesn't make sense.
>>2220494>The bourgeois argument for the demographics crisis is that young people are "paying" for old folks pensions or whatever the fuck.It should be uncontroversial that people who are working are providing for those who don't. This is true whether the pension scheme is state-run or based on the stock market. That young workers work for old pensioners is sometimes called a pyramid scheme, but this is false, a better term is
cylinder scheme. The pyramid scheme is called that way because the number of joiners must grow like an ever-expanding diagram of a pyramid that is expanding downwards to visualize the incoming joiners. The cylinder scheme just expands downwards without need to get fatter because the oldest people at the top are constantly gameovering. The scheme can still work with a somewhat aging population, but not a drastically aging population. There is no alternative to the cylinder scheme.
>>2220494This shit is only relevant to US economists because they've planned their hegemony on the growing economy through high birth rates and immigration. Hence, "demographics is destiny" motto they keep saying
China planned onto having a gradual decrease from 1.8 fertility rate to 1.5 or so in 10 years, but Covid kind of broke that plan. It's a lot of economic adjustments to make, but compared to USA, China has no demographics problem now or in the future - they are socialist, and therefore automatization serves the people, making them richer at an astounding pace
Again, the only people who care about people having 1-3 kids instead of 2-5 are bourgeois economists or influenced by them, because that's America's only shot at remaining hegemonic. The very fucking human nature is against capitalism, and capitalism cannot cope with tihs
>>22206971. Why do you always have DPRK and Cuban flags when they are bourgeois countries that oppose real revolutionary forces?
2. What is this ridiculous caricature of banning any femininity you keep repeating?
>>2220931Embassy go boom
>>2220982Your thread is shit. There is no demographic crisis, countries can live with a population plateu and humans aren't going to go extinct.
>>2220992That is concerning if that’s how you read my guy. Thesis : demographics crisis makes economists worry because not enough population to replenish tax base and laborers; Antithesis: it’s only a problem because capitalists need a constant population growth to absorb the larger amounts of commodities to absorb for capitalist growth, no new population equals no new growth, scares the shit out of capitalists.
Synthesis: capitalism creates fake issues that force politicians to create real policy that hurts people so communism is the only solution.
>>2220579>The consequences of a better standard of living is a drastic aging population.The big increase in average lifespan over the past 150 years is mostly due to reduced child mortality.
>This is why any politics about this ends up being malthusian or austerity.People from Paul Cockshott to Elon Musk are wringing their hands over declining birth rates. This is literally the opposite of Malthusianism.
>Communism is the only solution to bullshit demographics myths. No need for growth creates zero need for larger populations.Even a stable stationary economy would require something close to stable replacement rates.
>>22209181) Despite their obvious Revisionist tendencies, Cuba and the DPRK are both Dictatorships of the Proletariat (One-Party Marxist-Leninist States) in the Socialist Mode of Product (Centrally Planned Socialist Economies, with State ownership of all Businesses, No Stock Exchanges, a State Planning agency, and a massive Social Safety Net consisting of Free Housing, Free Healthcare, Free Education, a Job Guarantee, etc.), and though your right that Cuba and the Shining Path had an unfortunate misunderstanding during the 1980a, the DPRK provides weapons to the CPP-NPA-NDF rebels in the Philippines and the Naxalites in India (their is even rumors that China still aids the Naxalites due to their bad relationship with Hindu Nationalist India), thus they are actively supporting two ongoing Maoist PPWs despite the ideological differences between Juche and Maoism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
2) That “ridiculous caricature” was the official policy of Maoist China during the Cultural Revolution, where Women were strongly encouraged to keep their Hair extremely short (their are even stories of Red Guards giving women that refused the “yip and yang” haircut, where half their head got shaved), while Dresses and Makeup were strongly discouraged, due to all of these things being seen as vestiges of Feudalism, Bourgeois Liberal Capitalism, and Revisionism, and their was even a quote about Women’s hair styles that said “Two braids is Feudalist, One braid is Capitalist, and Shoulder Length is Revisionist”, so the only Dialectical Materialist analysis of Bourgeois Femininity is that it must be fully abolished in order to liberate Women, achieve Total Gender Equality and Flatten the Gender Binary, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2220336China, Cuba and N. Korea have all been liberalized to some degree.
So yes, they are subject to gobal capitalism and thus suffer under its crises.
>>2220494Neomalthusian economics is all about the idea that the origin of prosperity is in not having kids and decoupling sex from childbearing.
It turns out that the whole "social security" idea is reliant on the idea that you have kids to take care of old people.
Essentially they are punished for the sin of their unnatural behavior by being left with misery, loneliness, and death as their few descendants curse them for their evils, after leaving their whole life to a nonsensical and evil theory that even Malthus himself condemned.
>>2225889Chapter 18 An Essay on the Principle of
Population
<Every piece of matter lying on a surface must have an upper and an under side, all the particles cannot be in the middle. The most valuable parts of an oak, to a timber merchant, are not either the roots or the branches, but these are absolutely necessary to the existence of the middle part, or stem, which is the object in request. The timber merchant could not possibly expect to make an oak grow without roots or branches, but if he could find out a mode of cultivation which would cause more of the substance to go to stem, and less to root and branch, he would be right to exert himself in bringing such a system into general use.<In the same manner, though we cannot possibly expect to exclude riches and poverty from society, yet if we could find out a mode of government by which the numbers in the extreme regions would be lessened and the numbers in the middle regions increased, it would be undoubtedly our duty to adopt it."Malthusianism is the bourgeoisie's classic theory of immiseration.
Neo-malthusianism is the bourgeoisie's tactical application of systems Malthus envisioned to control and extract value from proletarians. Like abortion, medicaid, and social security.
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