Just received this warning from an irl friend.
Autistic people in the US, especially queer autistic people, are in immediate danger of genocide. Today RFK Jr made a speech saying autistic people are totally unproductive and have no place in society. This is blatant genocidal eugenicist rhetoric.
>>2228198Retards like you did this whole song and dance with how paranoid trans people were like 6 years ago and here we are.
Why do rightoids have to fucking lie about everything? Just admit what you're doing.
>>2228195i highly doubt theyre going to straight up murder autistics, that would be too far for the average hick. send them off to shitty underfunded institutions under the guise of "special ed costs us tax dollars" at best.
that being said, a "cure" for autism should absolutely be found (not under this system obv). i dont know why the minority of high functionings like you take so much pride in the disorder and speak for the majority of kids that will need a handler the rest of their life.
>>2228198rigid thinking + obsessive pattern recognition + got bullied in school
>>2228215Yes! Let's protest and get ourselves party vanned then wake up in El salvador!
Unironically start calling for violence or shut up.
>>2228215I mean unless it's a protest with the explicit purpose of disruption I wouldn't bother, and at this stage the only kind of "protest" that could stop the regime in its tracks would be a mass strike followed by occupying the halls of power, but most Americans still place faith in their institutions much like the peasants did in the Tsar prior to 1905
>>2228222As someone who's high functioning, there's plenty of autistic tics you can "clock" if you know what to look for. Stimming is something that comes pretty much involuntarily for us, and social cues feel more like a game of guess who where you have to remember the right cards for the right contexts. One slip up and you get a target on your back for being an "enemy of the American way of life"
>>2228226Almost all "mental illnesses" are just unique brain wiring that disagrees with modern industrio-capitalist society than an actual flaw with someone's being. ADHD is the perfect example of this, because people with ADHD absolutely excel at certain tasks that most people couldn't possibly achieve, and in general ADHD havers can actually manage their unique traits when they aren't flooded with 24/7/365 distractions and noise that is nearly impossible to escape from in the modern world.
Psychiatry is the biggest sham in human history.
>>2228252The #1 issue for rightoids is making "wokies" and transgender people suffer. Not the economy, not liberty, just sheer spite for those who are different.
It's a literal mind virus. Fascism isn't an ideology, it's a wildfire that destroys everything it touches. They won't ever stop, and they won't ever need a real reason to do the things they do. It's like a mental version of rabies, you can't save them.
>>2228262>>2228271Paychopaths.
Not sociopaths.
>>2228245i dont think autistic people should be forced to have their brain rewired against their consent, im saying if we can prevent autism in the first place thats an objective good. dont act like it hasnt made your life harder. im not a neurotypical, i have diagnosed aspd so if anything id be on the chopping block first, and even i wish i was born normal lol.
>>2228242actually interacting with autistics? you know damn well the average autistic isnt a wholesome savant. what part of "needs a handler" dont you get?
>>2228267yeah but thats like hanging your kids shitty crayon drawing up on the wall. its just a platitude. very very very few people would press a magic button that made you a downie or the average autist.
>>2228275Disagree, we should be making autism more prevalent because autistics contribute more, on average, to the advancement of the human race than normies do.
It's autists who are in the specialized fields like medicine and physics.
"low functioning autists" are only that way due to a lack of support during critical periods in their lives. Every low functioning autist I've known directly or indirectly has had a shit family. CWC is the best example of this. Having a shit upbringing will permanently stunt even the most NT person (look at feral children for proof of this)
>>2228288I would argue that is an entirely different condition that has been unfairly roped into
"autism" to justify the dehumanization of autists and coat over their mistreatment.
Diagnoses of autism aren't done by brain scans, they're done by vibes entirely. All of psychiatry is just fucking vibes. Some guy thinks you're autistic, so now you're autistic. It's incredibly unscientific because two separate things can have similar traits or appearances but have different underlying functions.
>>2228195Don't autistics benefit from being in structured environments?
/s
>>2228275>im saying if we can prevent autism in the first place thats an objective goodReally, an objective good? It's an objective good if my brain had been modified before birth to be wired differently?
Anon, you should fuck off.
>>2228199You are
That'd be a good thing normally, but unlike say, George Floyd, you're making the situation ten times worse being a redditor and consuming anime
Just a few months in el Salvador. Starve you a little, maybe a lobotomy, not saying we need to kill you, just you know…treat you
It'll be great. You'll probably actually get a girlfriend. Your incel ass needs one
>>222866290% of autistic people are not severely autistic, they are just spergs. And cases are the most severe of the most severe. Most "low functioning" autistic people are nothing like the videos you keep posting. Also you don't need to dehumanize these people just because they have very severe special needs. You're acting like they're monsters, when what they need is state support to take the burden off of the family. I've worked at a special camp for autistic people and they are mostly not more severe than Chris Chan, they are capable of writing poetry and going to the toilet (the issue is reminding them to go).
Anyway I think its time for the real red pill. Autism unironically doesn't exist. Or more accurately everyone is autistic. I am diagnosed with autism and I am better at socialising than most normal people, its all about learning how to do it. Supposed "Neurotypicals" seem to just not be able to talk about what they're interested in, or overshare about their own hobbies and interests like pop or rap music. Like if they were into something niche everyone would be calling them autisic. And I'm the only one with energy to ever organise anything socially. I know the most annoying aspergers people ever who act like discord mods, do the /s thing and so on, but I seriously don't think they are more autistic than the average person you meet who will just blank you in a conversation, or who is too socially anxious to talk to random people on the street.
Furthermore, autism is wildly misdiagnosed. The medicalism sucks so bad. Women who would be more suited to the autism diagnosis are instead given "anxiety" or "BDP" when really they have autism and its obvious. But their lives end up different because there is not the stigma attached to autism. The stigma and social pressure are such big things about it. Unironically that's the biggest difference, people with autism are in the hated group, people without are not. And don't try to tell me its any different. Anxiety is literally autism, that is literally my experience with it but its considered something different, and also medicated which is so evil its insane, anxiety is something you can just get over and live with.
It's all about perception. Either you think 'smelly fat man who shouts at his parents and lives in his basement' or its 'nerdy woman who is into altfashion and fringe politics'. And then how people treat the individual puts them into their life path.
>>2228195At this point I'll believe it. I'm seeing lots of videos of people being picked off the streets by plain clothes agents.
Maybe brunch will be interrupted now?
>>2228198Big issue is the whole bullshit "it's a spectrum" nonsense.
Like in the original image, RFK is clearly talking about actual proper autism, as in, low functioning autism, people who literally shit their pants, talk like a robot and can't even understand anything regarding social norms. My friend has a proper autistic brother in his 30s who just goes outside and walks the street completely naked and screams at people. That is real autism.
Aspergers (high functioning autism) is functionally a completely different disorder in every way it counts, far more in line with something like ADHD. Sensory overload. Aloof. Has often a strong focus on a few special interests. Often a fucking rude asshole. Some Autistic diagnosed people I know don't have any social issues at all, in fact the opposite, are super charismatic and are usually group/social leaders.
99% of people with "Autism" are in the second category.
Reminder DSM is a bunch of politicized horseshit and the reason Aspergers was dumped was because of the Nazi association.
>>2228475what political pressure
and i want CLEAR, INCONTROVERTIBLE proof
don't give me some supposition, vibes and coincidence bullshit
>>2228871Today: Leftypol is genocidally eugenicist
Tomorrow: Leftypol are mask off Hitlerites
>>2228195Generally these institutions have to be entered into voluntarily, and after that, well.
Right operate a little different in a treatment environment.
So these comments are a little disturbing because of that.
>>2228870Oh god, can you imagine if we all get arrested leftypolers would share the same cell block? You'd be sharing a cell with at least two or three other leftypolers. In fact let's play a little game here…
Welcome to Camp Skibidi, where work will set you free! You have chosen, or have been chosen, to relocate to one of our new Patriotic Rehabilitation Centers graciously hosted by El Salvador. To prevent the possibility of you spreading the poison of communism to other inmates, we're gonna put you with the rest of your "Left Eye Paul" collective. You'll be sharing a tiny cell with three other people, and they're all leftypolers who are notable for one reason or another. Role some kind of dice three times to determine your cellmates!
1. Shay Daniels
2. CPUSAnon
3. Iron Felix
4. Hoochie
5. Old BO
6. Sandanista Anon (he was deported from Brazil for being insufferable)
7. The Thing Noticer
8. Checkers
9. SatanNazi
10. Moffin
11. Space_
12. AK-47 anon
13. D*mc*l poster
14. Pennyfag
15. That one Harvey Birdman guy
16. NoGF Nazi
17. Eric Houdini (he will still try to advertise his patreon)
18. Watermelon
19. Graceposter
20. Ismail (bunkers not included)
Roll a 20 sided die three times to determine your fate! If you roll the same number twice, one of your cellmates will be replaced by someone from GETchan chosen at random. The first roll is your bunkmate. And if you're on this list and happen to roll yourself, you can make a free choice. How fucked is your stay at the freedom camp?
>>2229071trvke: modern 4channers aren't actually autistic, they just appropriate autistic culture to make themselves feel unique
Peel away the first layer of irony and 24/7 aggression and they are the same flock as xitter boomers
>>2229102oh boo hoo did the mean internet people contest the label you turned into your personality?
>people without autismyoure literally doing it right now
>>2229108Actually it's a label that's been applied to me most of my life and something constantly used to either belittle me, hold me back, exclude me, or generally inconvenience me with petty bullshit. I didn't choose any of this.
<you make autism your personality!Well considering it's literally part of who am I and how my brain works I cant help but talk about it. What do you expect me to do, be ashamed of myself? Engage in self loathing and vow to find a cure for autism?
>>2229133Okay my apologies, I'll be sure to apologize for being born at every given opportunity I guess. I'm a diseased sicko who's not fit for communism, but I'm also apparently just making it up depending on who I'm talking to.
And yes, people with health conditions, whether physical or mental, shouldn't be abandoned by society. That applies to people with bpd, schizophrenics, paraplegics, etc. Yes they're debilitating, yes they didn't choose to have it either, but their not lesser people because of it.
>>2229163uyghas cant make eye contact or walk around headphoneless without getting overstimulated but think they can handle active combat
the neurodiversity movement is the worst of any idpol psyop just for its lunacy
>>2229130>complains about his autism making life more difficult >complains about people wanting to fix his autism >>2229378you don't have to put on a plate carrier with 8 magazines and tourniquets and learn the ins and outs of close quarters combat to effect political change in a more violent social environment, plus there will always be a section of society that is willing to fight. the US will have no shortage of insane volunteers ready to break out of their ennui by finding out the hard way what war is really like. the guys being killed every day in Donbass are barely any more sentient or capable than the average autist. random Ukrainian guys in their fifties with bad legs are fighting and dying as we speak.
again, leave it to Z gang to puff their chest out about how based you are for… following a war? kill yourself already
>>2229388>plus there will always be a section of society that is willing to fight. the US will have no shortage of insane volunteers ready to break out of their ennui by finding out the hard way what war is really like.calling for a violent restructuring of society and wanting others to die on your behalf, when you yourself have absolutely no skin in the game, is the literal peak of liberalism. its one thing to hope for a better future, its another to smugly bow out of its catalyst and opt for teaching refugees javascript while taking the credit lmao
anyway picrel
>>2229513Mainly because they won't see any distinction between high-functioning autistics and low-functioning autistics because we got placed under the same umbrella.
They would see us as "Useless eaters" to be exterminated.
>>2230569So unborn babies aren't people then?
And yet anti natalism is seen as a farce?
>>2230596Which is why public and private schools should have mandatory supply of birth control supplements for adolescent females.
And it should not be left up to parents.
Part of why women's bodily autonomy is hard to achieve is because "parental rights".
Parents more often than not seem only capable of raising kids through infancy but drop the ball after toddler hood.
>>2228208Ballsports as a hobby or fan is kinda boring.
>>2230664>>2230690What is anon saying in
>>2230647 saying that's wrong?
>>2230696It's no different from the alt right accusing liberals of being communists.
>>2230668>Defunding the government. Turbo-neoliberalism. Or we aren't gonna say that Thatcher policies killed people?We're talking about two different things. The original topic was whether his speech was offensive and if it was an indication of an impending mass genocide of undesirables:
>>2230647I'm not saying that the Trump admin's, or local GOP or whoever is not going to defund healthcare. Autistics are already languishing under a shitty private healthcare.
>>2230647He accurately described symptoms that extreme autistic people have and is saying he wants to find a cure for it.
>>2228662I'm not saying he will or he has a good plan to but their was literally nothing wrong with what he said.
>>2228734>90% of autistic people are not severely autistic, they are just spergs.Yeah, since they changed the fucking DSM a few years ago to group spergs with the people with the completely debilitating mental handicap.
>Most "low functioning" autistic people are nothing like the videos you keep posting. No all that kind of shit is very common with SEVERE autism.
>I've worked at a special camp for autistic people and they are mostly not more severe than Chris Chan, they are capable of writing poetry and going to the toilet (the issue is reminding them to go).Well I've met ones who are full on intellectually deficient.
>Anyway I think its time for the real red pill. Autism unironically doesn't exist. Or more accurately everyone is autistic.This is your perception because you're focused on the sperg diagnosis vs the ones who are full on special needs, no question about it, have a serious fucking disease.
>Furthermore, autism is wildly misdiagnosed. I agree with you on this.
>It's all about perception. Either you think 'smelly fat man who shouts at his parents and lives in his basement' or its 'nerdy woman who is into altfashion and fringe politics'. And then how people treat the individual puts them into their life path.No, that's your perception because you are trying to conflate these misdiagnosed nerds with the full on head banging retards.
In NH it's already starting. This email was sent out by the director of CSNI:
FROM Marissa Berg - CSNI
Hello everyone,
I am reaching out to provide an update on the HB2 budget, the version of the state budget the NH House of Representatives has proposed. While CSNI currently represents only the Area Agencies, it is imperative that all provider agencies understand the threat that HB2 presents to developmental services in NH. HB2, as approved by the House on 4/10/25, does the following:
Defunds the “waitlist” for FY’26 and ’27, though keeps RSA 171-A:1-a intact. This means that the state will still be obligated to provide funding to individuals new to services but would not have money appropriated to do so.
Institutes a 3% reduction in all Medicaid rates, effective 1/1/26.
Requires a $46m “back of the budget” cut at DHHS. This means that DHHS will have to identify an additional $46m in cuts across the biennium, on top of all specified cuts outlined in HB2.
Eliminates funding for any prioritized need outlined in the Department’s request. This means:
No additional funding for Room and Board
No continued funding for Recreation
No additional funds to implement rate setting
No additional funding for Early Intervention (early supports and services)
This budget, as it stands, would have a significant impact on people who currently receive or will receive HCBC waiver services. Please note that these changes are separate from any potential future federal impacts and most would become effective 7/1/25 if passed.
We are asking that provider agencies reach out to Senators from their area to advocate for the following:
Eliminate the 3% rate cuts for Medicaid
Fully fund the waitlist
Fully fund Room and Board increases
It is important that Senators hear from their constituents regarding how this budget would harm the individuals they support and their agencies. We have put together resources here at CSNI to help individuals, families and professionals learn what HB2 does to Developmental Services and how you can advocate against these cuts. Current and upcoming tools and resources:
CSNI and The Dupont Group are holding a free webinar on Monday, 4/21 from 4-5 PM to review the budget process, the budget iterations so far and what people can do in response. This will be recorded and posted to the CSNI website. Pre-register here.
CSNI participated in a press conference alongside other community organizations on 4/11 and received coverage through several outlets, including WMUR, InDepth NH, NH Public Radio, and the Manchester and Nashua InkLink.
An op-ed was published in today’s Union Leader.
You are encouraged to follow CSNI’s Facebook and LinkedIn pages for updates. Several resources are also available at www.csni.org, and the CSNI Legislative page at
https://csni.org/legislative-updates.
You can also see all reports and budgets on the LBA 26-27 budget page.
There is still room for advocacy. The Senate public hearing on the budget is scheduled for May 6th, we will be sharing more information via CSNI social media and the CSNI website regarding our presence there.
Individuals who receive services and their families are encouraged to share their stories anonymously via Surveymonkey here. We are using these stories as part of our advocacy and telling as many as we can.
People can also email Senators directly to tell their stories. You can find who your senator is here. Additionally, please tell members of Senate Finance what this budget means to you by clicking here and selecting “email entire committee” .
Thank you for assisting in advocacy around these critical concerns and helping us protect Developmental Services funding in NH.
Marissa Berg, MS
She/Her/Hers
Executive Director
Community Support Network, Inc.
11 S. Main Street, #200-F
Concord NH 03301
Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 217
Derry, NH 03038
Cell: (603) 540-7169
Office: (603) 229-1982
>>2228275Thank you. Some one here with some sense. Everyone else here is some willfully petulant contrarian idealist.
>>2229682Then you have to ban abortion. Or even maybe just maybe spare the bourgeois.
>>2228245Shut the fuck up, you idiots turning your problems into your sole personality trait are so annoying.
My autism every waking moment both socially and isolated miserable. It makes basic thought feel like churning concrete. It makes me miss the social signals that are the most important to me, leaves me wanting to help or say something but unable to come up with anything. I'm stuck in that state forever, in eternity. A limbo of self-reflection and awareness with no result and pained cognition. It's a misery, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone and every social barrier in the way of looking for cures because it looks bad or is invalidating I want gone.
Obviously, I want limitations on its imposition. I don't want people who are happy with they way there are to be forced to change or other ways of being just taken by default to not be okay and intervention imposed despite any other repercussions on the person, but I want options to be investigated and it being totally socially acceptable to do so.
>>2232119>Then you have to ban abortion. Or even maybe just maybe spare the bourgeois.How does that follow from what I stated at all? How does it follow that a socialist society, which sets aside provisions for the disabled and elderly, is a society where abortion is banned and the bourgeoisie is spared?
<"Proceeds of labor" is a loose notion which Lassalle has put in the place of definite economic conceptions.<What is "a fair distribution"?<Do not the bourgeois assert that the present-day distribution is "fair"? And is it not, in fact, the only "fair" distribution on the basis of the present-day mode of production? Are economic relations regulated by legal conceptions, or do not, on the contrary, legal relations arise out of economic ones? Have not also the socialist sectarians the most varied notions about "fair" distribution?<To understand what is implied in this connection by the phrase "fair distribution", we must take the first paragraph and this one together. The latter presupposes a society wherein the instruments of labor are common property and the total labor is co-operatively regulated, and from the first paragraph we learn that "the proceeds of labor belong undiminished with equal right to all members of society."<"To all members of society"? To those who do not work as well? What remains then of the "undiminished" proceeds of labor? Only to those members of society who work? What remains then of the "equal right" of all members of society?<But "all members of society" and "equal right" are obviously mere phrases. The kernel consists in this, that in this communist society every worker must receive the "undiminished" Lassallean "proceeds of labor".<Let us take, first of all, the words "proceeds of labor" in the sense of the product of labor; then the co-operative proceeds of labor are the total social product.<From this must now be deducted: First, cover for replacement of the means of production used up. Second, additional portion for expansion of production. Third, reserve or insurance funds to provide against accidents, dislocations caused by natural calamities, etc.<These deductions from the "undiminished" proceeds of labor are an economic necessity, and their magnitude is to be determined according to available means and forces, and partly by computation of probabilities, but they are in no way calculable by equity.<There remains the other part of the total product, intended to serve as means of consumption.<Before this is divided among the individuals, there has to be deducted again, from it: First, the general costs of administration not belonging to production. This part will, from the outset, be very considerably restricted in comparison with present-day society, and it diminishes in proportion as the new society develops. Second, that which is intended for the common satisfaction of needs, such as schools, health services, etc. From the outset, this part grows considerably in comparison with present-day society, and it grows in proportion as the new society develops. Third, funds for those unable to work, etc., in short, for what is included under so-called official poor relief today.
<Only now do we come to the "distribution" which the program, under Lassallean influence, alone has in view in its narrow fashion – namely, to that part of the means of consumption which is divided among the individual producers of the co-operative society.<The "undiminished" proceeds of labor have already unnoticeably become converted into the "diminished" proceeds, although what the producer is deprived of in his capacity as a private individual benefits him directly or indirectly in his capacity as a member of society.<Just as the phrase of the "undiminished" proceeds of labor has disappeared, so now does the phrase of the "proceeds of labor" disappear altogether.<Within the co-operative society based on common ownership of the means of production, the producers do not exchange their products; just as little does the labor employed on the products appear here as the value of these products, as a material quality possessed by them, since now, in contrast to capitalist society, individual labor no longer exists in an indirect fashion but directly as a component part of total labor. The phrase "proceeds of labor", objectionable also today on account of its ambiguity, thus loses all meaning.<What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is the part of the social working day contributed by him, his share in it. He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another.<Here, obviously, the same principle prevails as that which regulates the exchange of commodities, as far as this is exchange of equal values. Content and form are changed, because under the altered circumstances no one can give anything except his labor, and because, on the other hand, nothing can pass to the ownership of individuals, except individual means of consumption. But as far as the distribution of the latter among the individual producers is concerned, the same principle prevails as in the exchange of commodity equivalents: a given amount of labor in one form is exchanged for an equal amount of labor in another form.<Hence, equal right here is still in principle – bourgeois right, although principle and practice are no longer at loggerheads, while the exchange of equivalents in commodity exchange exists only on the average and not in the individual case.<In spite of this advance, this equal right is still constantly stigmatized by a bourgeois limitation. The right of the producers is proportional to the labor they supply; the equality consists in the fact that measurement is made with an equal standard, labor.<But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural privilege. It is, therefore, a right of inequality, in its content, like every right. Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view, are taken from one definite side only – for instance, in the present case, are regarded only as workers and nothing more is seen in them, everything else being ignored. Further, one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal.
<But these defects are inevitable in the first phase of communist society as it is when it has just emerged after prolonged birth pangs from capitalist society. Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and its cultural development conditioned thereby.<In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly – only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs! >>2232198If we need to make provisions for adult persons who are unable to work, then what about the unborn?
Aren't they worth personhood?
What about the bourgeois folk who are unable to work or get laid?
Here's the side of autism you retards don't see:
This was taken 4 years ago. We were in the midst of the worst crisis we'd ever been in with our son.
I don't recall what he was raging about that day. Dale was at work. I was home waiting on a large delivery. Just as the driver showed up, he started his daily violent meltdown. Normally I'd lock myself out in the garpartment for safety, but this always drove him outside into the yard and that day the delivery driver was a woman.
I ran outside to warn her and to get her to come back later. He chased me outside, grabbed me by the hair and yanked me to the ground. He got one hand in my mouth and tried to rip my cheek open. He went for my eyes to gouge them out. As I fought him off, I felt a great peace. I thought "I'm gonna lose my eye but it's ok." I was able to sweep his legs out from under him and he went down. As I sat in the safety of the delivery truck with the gracious, understanding driver, I watched my son rip the front door off our house.
I don't dwell on this or any of the other times like this. They are not who my son is. He's a wonderful, loving, funny person. I adore him with all my heart. He has severe autism. He is verbal but he can't have a normal conversation. He can't tie his shoes, make his own dinner, or hold a job. He will never live independently. When Dale and I are gone, he will likely live in some type of institutionalized care facility. It breaks my heart just thinking about it.
When he is on any type of anti-inflammatory type drug, he gets better. This is because one of his diagnoses is encephalopathy. He has extensive brain damage from the shots he was given when he was 3 years old, including his first MMR and Varicella. He began showing signs of brain swelling and seizures two days later.
I don't like anyone to know the extreme struggles we've had with him over the years. I've talked here and there about it but don't share the worst of it. I'm a pretty private person, so talking about this is very hard for me. And I don't want people to get the wrong impression of my precious son.
The reason I'm sharing this now is because I hope that when you see people talking bad about RFKjr (who has long been a hero in our house), you will know that he was referring to cases like my son's. This type of autism absolutely devastates families with the financial, emotional, physical, and psychological toll it takes on you. It isolates you. The stress undoes you and shortens your life expectancy. When Dale had a heart attack two years ago, it drove home how difficult this would be without him.
I love each of you and take a lot of comfort in knowing that you care about our family and Micah. Thank you for that!
>>2229266>uyghas cant make eye contact or walk around headphoneless without getting overstimulated but think they can handle active combat Much of the time it's really boring though
>>2230876>Sounds fashyNazi propaganda focused on genes, but it does have the Wellness -> Purity -> Eugenics pipeline. A common thread running through crackpot medical theories is that diseases and disorders that are better understood today are really the sickness of modern society. It's not genetics or germs that have existed for thousands of years. It's the newfangled preservatives and GMOs or 5G radio waves or whatever.
>>2232896It's one thing for the families of autistic kids to have organized and supported RFK in the theory/hope that these charlatans will "fix" their children but now RFK is basically saying that their already existing children and autistic siblings and parents are worthless – will never be "fixed" and will simply need to be disappeared. If I were these families I would be suffering from massive buyer's remorse.
He's really disgusting because he handles science like a dishonest attorney (which is, well, what he is). He cherry-picks things out of the world of science and then flagrantly lies about and misrepresents them in the service of litigating a case against public health. The smarm and relentless intellectual dishonesty unmoored from any moral concern about the people he will hurt makes him a dangerous figure.
>>2229029Wait
There are two AK47 anons
Which one do you mean
>>2232923I
will talk about being in the vore fur community in my cell
>>2232886I work in a special needs school; myself and other staff get the shit kicked out of us on a fairly regular basis, so I consider myself something of an authority on the subject.
RFKjr is a cunt, and he absolutely was not thinking about specific cases like this. Not all pre-verbal autistic kids are violent, and even those that are don't deserve to be deported.
Remember, these are the same people who have argued that we should allow fatal CSA because it's cheaper than paying for therapy (vid rel).
>>2232966Eastman was projecting but value does not mean profit.
That said
>Myself and the staff get the shit kicked out of us on a regular basisDamn so working as a staff member there is basically tard wrestling huh? Kek.
>>2233182I don't really blame them.
Look at Lee, the guy developed deep autistic hatred for My Little Pony and Barney because the lower functioning autists liked it while he was stuck in special needs classes.
No one hates autistic people more than other autistic people, much like how no one hates other people like themselves, more than the people in that group themselves who know them best just in general as a law of life.
If most autsits had power the highest functioning ones would instantly cut the rope for the lower functioning ones as soon as possible even if there are more than them.
Mind you I'm not saying it's based and everyone who is autistic should begin to act even more unhinged and mentally disabled, as funny as it would be, but I am saying these guys clearly are Uncle Tomming it up in this bitch for good reason.
>How many comrades would be willing to care for a high needs autistic person? Either as a babysitter so mom can have a break or a full-time guardian?Not at all, not even in a million years, gun to my head if you told me take care of one or shoot the child instead so I never have to, I am telling them to put a bullet through the autistic childs skull in a heart beat with no remorse.
>>2230584>So unborn babies aren't people then?Correct.
"Unborn babies" are not actually babies at all, they are in the vast majority of cases zygotes, and sometimes fetuses. In the cases where they are more developed, in practically all cases it's because the health of the mother is threatened and/or the fetus has no hope of survival.
Biology aside, zygotes/fetuses do not have feelings, they do not have memories, and they do not have human connections (sans the mother). Everything we value in a "person" is absent. There is only the "potential" for future personhood. It's all based on spooks that human beings have individual souls, that if that "soul" does not come to term that soul will have been wasted (they will end up in purgatory or whatever). Somehow this does not apply to the trillions of discarded sperm and eggs because… it just doesn't, even though there is effectively no difference. The value is solely in potential.
Weighed against the life and liberty of the mother, that potential comes up sorely lacking.
The only reason this is a controversial take is because when people imagine an "unborn child" they imagine an actual child, just inside of a womb. It's based on false assumptions. But meanwhile many actual children are suffering and yet the unborn are given priority by reactionaries.
>>2235054>Biology aside, zygotes/fetuses do not have feelings, they do not have memories, and they do not have human connections (sans the mother). Everything we value in a "person" is absent. There is only the "potential" for future personhood. But this also applies to infants. Infants literally do not have any memory or human connections to anyone outside of their own mother. Why is abortion not murder then but terminating a one day old newborn is?
I'm not saying that we should ban all abortion btw, it's just that some of you guys really haven't spend much time thinking what makes a human, man.
>>2235144babies physically have brains, zygotes do not
end of story as far as i care.
>>2235128also
>undialectical<metaphysicalpffghahah
Last night, my son was calm. We had one of those rare evenings where everything felt okay… for a moment.
But some days, I’m running on maybe 3 hours of interrupted sleep.
Because around 2 a.m., my 10yr nonverbal son is wide awake — like many nights before — stimming, pacing, vocalizing.
He can’t tell me what’s wrong. He never has.
This is what our autism journey looks like.
This is what people don’t see when they post those “autism is a gift” graphics.
It’s diapers that he rips open to stim with the soaked insides. It’s callouses on his arms from biting himself until he bleeds. It’s the screaming and sudden bursts of aggression that leave his younger siblings with scratches, bruises — sometimes worse.
It’s screwing metal plates over electrical outlets.
Replacing closet doors he ripped off the hinges.
Mounting a fan to the wall after he destroyed three others — because he needs the sound to sleep, but he’ll ruin it in a moment of impulse.
It’s a broken bedroom window at dawn and finding him in the backyard — where he could’ve died from the glass.
There’s a pond across the street. He can’t swim.
Do you know how many autistic children die by drowning?
We used to keep him in our room for years just to keep him safe. We put a key lock on our bedroom door from the inside. Baby-proofed the room like our lives depended on it.
Because his did.
When he got too big to stay with us, we gave him his own space — only to find he would swing from the ceiling fan, flip his mattress, poop on the floor, and throw furniture.
He doesn’t do it because he’s “bad.”
He does it because something in his brain won’t let him rest.
He doesn’t play in his poop — thank God — but there were years of explosive diarrhea while we tried to toilet train him.
Two years ago, he finally stopped pooping in his diapers. That was huge. We celebrated something most parents take for granted.
But it didn’t last. Not the peace.
When he’s calm, it’s like watching a beautiful storm cloud finally break into sun.
When the waves hit, it’s violent. Terrifying.
Therapies?
We’ve tried. Speech, OT, all of it.
He does well for a while… then regresses into aggression so severe that the therapists drop him and tell us he needs behavior therapy — which no one around here wants to take on.
It’s happened three times.
We still don’t know what triggers the switch.
But when it hits — it’s holes in the walls.
Head slams. Arm bites. Blood. Sweat. Tears.
Literally.
I fixed the drywall.
I can’t fix my son.
After our last family trip — which went surprisingly well — he came back and started attacking the walls. Slamming his body to create huge holes. We replaced the door with a heavy-duty one after he busted through the first one during a meltdown.
And the worst part?
He’s in there.
I know he is.
There are moments — split seconds — where I see his soul peek through. A smirk. A sparkle. A flicker of peace.
But this? This is not peace.
This is a prison.
Don’t tell me this is the next step in human evolution.
Don’t call this a gift.
Don’t romanticize this.
This is neurological dysfunction.
This is immune injury.
This is a brain that cannot properly connect with the body.
And he doesn’t deserve it.
The autism “spectrum” has done more damage than good.
Because lumping my son in with quirky geniuses and chatty tech bros has left children like him without proper diagnosis, support, or even acknowledgment.
We are invisible in plain sight.
And we are tired.
We’ve adapted every corner of our lives just to survive.
We can’t go to Easter egg hunts, or birthday parties, or anywhere without risk.
And most of the time… I’m scared to even hope.
But I’m writing this because someone needs to hear it.
If this is your life too — I see you.
If this isn’t your life — consider yourself lucky.
But don’t look away.
Because our story deserves to be heard too.
And our children — especially the ones who can’t speak — need more than just awareness.
They need help.
They need truth.
They need change.
We are not okay.
But we are not giving up.
Not on our kids.
Not ever.
>>2236312You're the third person to bring this up.
So far as can tell it was merely speculation.
>>2228198>accepts that racism is bad>accepts that homophobia is bad>accepts that transphobia is bad>accepts that misogyny is bad>but when it comes to ableism, it is no biggie, people are overreacting, it is not real oppressionWhy is this so prevalent in popular leftist circles?
The reason for ableism often coincides and overlaps with other types of oppression. It just doesn't count because you probably benefit from that kind of oppression, or it's not directed at you specifically, so it's okay. Because it is definitely okay if it happens to someone else and not to you specifically, you probably think. Or maybe it is okay because you think that ableism is a necessary evil.
But the problem is that ableism is also the cause of other kinds of discrimination.
>other races are bad because they think differently from us, they are idiots, therefore it is ok to kill them>homosexuals are bad because they think differently from us, they are idiots, therefore it is ok to kill them>transsexuals are bad because they think differently from us, they are idiots, therefore it is ok to kill them>women are bad because they think differently from us, they are idiots, therefore it is ok to kill themSaying "they think differently than we do, they are idiots, so it is okay to kill them" is the definition of ableism. Without fighting ableism, you are just allowing other forms of oppression against people to exist.
>>2236353of course, because having high functioning autism is horrible and your best bet at any sort of normalcy is getting taught how to type - and when you do teach low functioning autistic people how to type on keyboard they often are much higher autism score than is let on. Low functioning autism is a curse and a blessing but low functioning autism is largely a curse - that's why you see that because high functioning people tend to be able to advocate and communicate more
I was responding to the people going on about how its only low functioning people they're talking about so high functioning autists (most of this site probably) don't have anything to worry about - they do
meant low functioning in that first sentence
>>2236388 (me)
>>2236252Nightmare fuel.
God bless the parents for having to deal with this.
>>2235054Yet, people look down on antinatalism and give more respect and credence to the dead. Your kind of reasoning is what leads to active discrimination against the poor, elders, and disabled.
By your definition, severely disabled people should not be allowed to have personhood.
>>2230584Materially speaking, a fetus is an undeveloped human being. Sure, it contains human biological material in tissues and characteristics, but it lacks certain capabilities that make a human alive, including consciousness. The death of a fetus is as disturbing as pulling the plug on a brain-dead patient; though it is emotionally distressing, it is not murder because it does not terminate the life of a fully alive human being who can be materially and biologically defined as a person.
>>2232941Children are persons who have not yet grown up and biologically require assistance to stay alive. The child stage in all animals requires external assistance from a parental figure; lack of it is deprivation of a natural right therefore is a form of oppression. The solution would be, as Karl Marx stated, "The education of all children, from the moment they can manage without the care of a mother, shall be in state institutions at the expense of the state". This reflects his belief in the role of the public in raising and educating children.
>>2235128>metaphysicalScience does not concern itself with metaphysics.
>>2236252So how would comrades deal with kids like this if we all agree eugenics (including prenatal testing for autism) is a big no-no?
Group homes? Paying the parents? What?
Give me pragmatic answers, not just “abolish the family” rhetoric.
Another horror story you tards don't want to hear:
After Philippe nearly ripped flesh off my arm, I put him in his room, cried, and waited for my husband to get home from another kid’s soccer game. His room is the place he’s most safe and he usually calms down. (Usually).
Well… when hubby got home I asked another kid to check on Philippe.
THIS is what his room looks like now.
This is the mess we have to clean up.
The current problem we have to dedicate time, effort, and money to.
There will be something else tomorrow, later today, or in an hour.
————-
Speaking of- the Neighbourhood Easter egg hunt is in half an hour. My other kids have been looking forward to it for a year! Talking about it for months….
My husband has to go the hardware store now. 🔨
Do we tell our kids we have to stay home with Philippe - and they cant go to the Easter egg hunt? Do i take Philippe with me and risk him biting a neighborhood kid, pushing over a small child, breaking something or worse? (Becausee he’a done all of those at church and in public).
Do i send my kids to the easter egg hunt alone, and miss these sweet precious moments with them?
WHAT DO WE DO?
How do we navigate this constant dilemma?
…………
STOP GLORIFYING THIS!!!!!! Stop it!
It’s not the next phase of human evolution.
It’s not a gift. It’s not beautiful!
This is INJURY! This is brokenness.
My son doesn’t deserve this!
His brain doesn’t work correctly and his nerves don’t communicate effectively with the rest of his body. His speech doesn’t work and he isn’t able to talk to us at all.
It’s a horrifying mess that we have to slog through and call life.
We get through our days at work, during school hours. We survive.
We waited 15 YEARS to finally get help with services (because that’s how long the waitlist takes 😭) — and now we have some hours during the weekdays after school with help from amazing therapy aides! 👏🏼 (they’re seriously awesome! And we desperately need them, but there’s a limit to hours.)
Sometimes we’re barely living. We’re barely holding it together on evenings and weekends when he’s not in school or doesn’t have a therapy aide here.
It’s WILD that people call this “a gift”.
Just bonkers.
How did we get here?!?!!
>>2237807Fully agree. Even as an anarchist I fully believe every pregnant individual should HAVE to get the NIPT and any prenatal test they’d have for autism in the future.
If you’re taking on the job of being a parent you need to know what kind of job you’re in for. Fuck them deformed fetuses.
>>2237809yeah, we could design a society that is accessible to multiple kinds of person, or we could just fucking cap all the different people at birth i guess.
yeah, we could build wheelchair ramps for disabled people, or we could just fucking cap them all in the back of the head to save the concrete cost.
what the fuck kind of fascist shit are you on my brother, you need to seriously introspect and interrogate your beliefs.
>>2237885The problem with this is that concrete and ramps are easy, we've been doing it for thousands of years.
How do you build a entire society to comfort some freak that belives they are married to Mewtwo and there's a parallel universe where MLP characters are real? Occasionally culling them is so much easier, and spares so many people of a headache.
>>2237928Nowadays, and probably always, also the army. My childhood friend growing was homeschooled and kinda spergy, I really think he got it from being homeschooled as I've noticed all kids who went to a Montesorri school, or were homeschooled, not around a lot of other kids, at least other kids not from their same little cult raised like them, tend to be a little spergier. I noticed his sperginess decreased when he did his last two years at a regular high school. But he was still a little spergy when I saw him a couple times when he was home from the army. He was telling me how much he really dislikes being "on the outside" and in civilian life and how much better everything is in the military because of the structure and shared purpose and whatever. The example he gave to me was the local gym, where tons of people wouldn't rerack their weights, whereas in the army it's unthinkable. Probably because it was a Cali hood tbh. I've noticed in Texas people are more conscientious. I guess people say the same about Japan. Are they a race of people with the sperg disease? Did you know it's considered impolite to look people in the eye in Japan?
Heck I come from a African culture with a similar norms about eye contact as well.
>>2237928And it worked out great if you ask me, we got St Jerome, St Augustine, St Thomas Aquinas, etc.
Notice how things got significantly worse in the west when we abandoned monestic and hermit life styles for them
>>2237946See what i mean
>>2237953Most spergies would take the cure, and parents would sign off on having them cured.
There's a niche, ultra online, group of autistic people who swear that there's nothing wrong with them as a cope for how dislodged and alienated they feel from mankind in general (like the one quoting me with Hitler pics). Some of them might refuse it, but i suspect the majority will cave in because at the end of the day it sucks to be a freak that makes everyone around you uncomfortable.
>>2237973I don't think it's a curable thing, we are talking hypotheticals here.
Either way, my Jedi Temple solution to sperg question is probably better, and actually doable.
>>2238051I thought 68 yo boomers were high t war vets and teenagers were pussies who were all femboys.
Isn't this a good thing.
>>2228282"low functioning autists" are only that way due to a lack of support during critical periods in their lives.
>>2228734>Anxiety is literally autismthis is my understanding too.
>>2230877>>2228734I will cut the knot and say that the modern day definition of autism is just purely the medicalizing of personalities. Maybe even more than that, and its the medicalizing of a subset of hobbies and interests. One can hardly mention they find deeper inspiration in any aspect of the world around them without everyone on the internet telling them this is their autistic special interest.
To understand what's happening, just be reminded that psychiatry operates by assuming the existence of a "normal" person that literally does not exist. Since we immediately realize, upon asking what normal is, that the definition of normal is entirely socially mediated, psychiatry solves the problem by saying that one is abnormal if their psychology causes them distress or inhibits their "normal" life.
But since the circle of exclusion continues to widen, and the domain of normalcy shrinks, society becomes increasingly alienated, atomized, hostile and lonely, and the number of abnormal people increases.
The result is many people naively look for diagnosis to explain their situation. Presently, autism as a diagnosis is a safe harbor from the rest of psychiatry. It is MUCH, much worse to get diagnosed with depression, BPD, or other mental illnesses than autism, which is (for now, benign). Those other diagnosis can result in severe negative consequences and loss of personal autonomy. But we should never want any psychiatric diagnosis that we can avoid.
>>2232886>>2236252>>2237804I'm beyond disgusted how the American left has become so invested in idpol that they completely ignore the CLASS ELEMENT of the autism issue.
Level 3 autistic kids are a huge drain on working-class families. These kids require 24/7 care, meaning one parent (always the mother) has to stay home and be a full-time caregiver, doing an unbelievable amount of uncompensated care work. The families are drained financially. The mother has zero energy. Other siblings have to see their childhoods revolve entirely around their level 3 autistic sibling's support needs, meaning they spend their entire childhoods being min-caregivers. Something like 80% of marriages between parents of level 3 autistic kids end in divorce because the stress of taking care of that child puts a gigantic strain on their relationship. Mothers of level 3 autistic kids find themselves entirely isolated since they have to be with their child all the time and can't do things like go out in public.
Meanwhile, rich liberals almost always have kids with ASPERGER'S (level 1 autism) and will brag about how their Aspie children are piano prodigies or math geniuses or geography nerds or whatever. When rich liberals have level 3 autistic kids, they simply pay to put those kids in a group home at a young age so the parents don't have to deal. Either that, or they hire the best ABA therapists so that their level 3 autistic kids snap out of their bad behaviours and learn some degree of skill.
The fact no one wants to focus on how caring for severely disabled children has a huge impact on proletarian families is sickening.
https://people.com/rfk-jr-to-launch-autism-registry-using-private-health-records-11720156Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to Launch National Autism Registry Using Americans’ Private Health Records>Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the secretary of health and human services, is set to amass the private medical records of Americans for a new autism study. >On April 21, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya — director of the National Institutes of Health — announced that the NIH will provide Kennedy with data pulled from a number of federal and commercial databases, CBS News reports.>Kennedy — who has previously promoted a scientifically debunked claim that autism is caused by vaccines — is also launching a new registry to track Americans with autism.>Bhattacharya explained that between 10 and 20 outside groups of researchers will have access to these records, and they will be provided with grant funding to carry out Kennedy’s autism studies. He added that this data will allow researchers to study "comprehensive" patient data with "broad coverage" of the U.S. population for the first time.>Bhattacharya said during a presentation that the data will include medical records from pharmacy chains, lab tests, genomics data from patients treated by the Department of Veterans Affairs and Indian Health Service, claims from private insurers, data from smartwatches and fitness trackers and more. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/04/rfk-wellness-farms-mental-health/682293/ (awful publication, but a decent article)
RFK Jr.’s 18th-Century Idea About Mental Health>Less than a month before his assassination in 1963, President John F. Kennedy signed his last bill: one aimed at reforming America’s mental-health system. The year prior, Ken Kesey’s One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest had brought attention to the crude treatments in mental institutions, and like the novel’s protagonist, the president’s sister Rosemary had received a lobotomy that left her profoundly disabled. Kennedy sought to end the “reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolation,” he said in a statement to Congress.>Dedication to improving the country’s approach to mental health became a family project. In 1962, Eunice Kennedy Shriver started a sports camp for people with intellectual disabilities, which became the Special Olympics. In the 1970s, Senator Edward Kennedy tried to fix living conditions in mental institutions; in the ’90s, he helped establish the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Recently, his nephew Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the current secretary of Health and Human Services, subsumed that agency into a new one: the Administration for a Healthy America, which includes mental health as one of its focuses.>RFK Jr.’s policy plans have not yet taken form. So far, he has overseen deep cuts to HHS and begun reorganizing the agency internally. He has met once, reportedly, in private with the Make America Healthy Again Commission, created by the president to address chronic health issues; one of its stated goals is to assess the threat of prescription psychiatric drugs. (HHS did not respond to a request for comment.) When speaking publicly, Kennedy has repeatedly returned to the idea that American doctors overprescribe such drugs.>Kennedy is skilled at picking up on frustrations in the zeitgeist. The sentiment that doctors over-rely on psychiatric drugs, while neglecting side effects or difficulty tapering doses, has been receiving more public attention. Consistent and affordable access to therapists, or to economic and housing support, is hard to come by. Yet to the extent that RFK Jr. has revealed his own thinking on how to address those complaints, his suggestions remain isolated from robust debates about mental-health treatment. His clearest proposal, still, is his campaign promise to create wellness farms where Americans would reconnect with the soil and “learn the discipline of hard work.” That idea is little more than a retreat to well-trodden calls to address mental distress through seemingly natural means, and shows scant interest in the nuances of debate around psychiatric medication, or the ways in which separating people from society for such cures has failed. >>2238133>The fact no one wants to focus on how caring for severely disabled children has a huge impact on proletarian families is sickening.Dude, people are aware of how much it takes to take care of someone who is severely disabled, the leftist answer to that is national social programs and institutions committed to caring for said people. The answer isn't playing apologetics for conservative rhetoric about "unproductives", you mewling infant. As I implied here
>>2228871 before, you people use capitalist logic to rationalize "solutions" to "unproductives" in capitalism. It's like none of you read Critique of the Gotham Program.
>>2238981The irony being that the population here is overrepresented with autists.
>>2239036HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good job.
I saw a meme that said:
>saying "ew I hate this" every time I board a train, in case the autism gestapo is listening Unique IPs: 161