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Not reporting is bourgeois


 

is there actually a grand conspiracy like the great reset or does nobody know whats going on anymore?
a grand conspiracy would imply they know what theyre doing…

>>2228728
The grand conspiracy is how to maintain the system of profits and increase profits. If you understand this and investigate it further and further, things make soooo much more sense than anything rich people are saying, and especially more than what schizo right wingers are saying.

There's isn't a big conspiracy, that just schizo cope

>>2228728
Silicon valley is starting to put chips into a possible Gilead-like future for the US. It has chips in a China-like socdem future too.

there are countless petty self serving conspiracies going on all the time. there is no unified grand conspiracy except for the class solidarity found in the bourgeoisie. the problem people get into is that fiction and reality are intentionally blurred into a simulacrum called hyperreality. you should always question if you are looking at something real or jumping at shadows. the unquestioning consumer of the media is completely divorced from reality.

>>2228728
No you retarded cunt
The world doesn’t change according to the personal aspirations of individuals and covert factions
Read Marx
Or kys
Idc which

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>>2228728
I think one of the funniest things about all the stupid American conspiracy theories online is that most of them are already true to some degree. 'The government is going to turn us into slaves!' You already are. 'All our property will be taken!' It already has been. Etc.

These kinds of conspiracy theorists predominantly consist of the descending layers of the middle-class. Slavery here has the content of a proletarian life, i.e. all property being taken from them. This does happen to them, but they think some sinister force must be behind it. It's very remarkable how honest they are about the content of their fears: 'you will own nothing' etc. Truly the most stupid and reactionary of classes.

Why is zuck animorphing into logan paul in that picture?

>>2228728
Conspiracy theories if anything are a coping mechanism. That there's some kind of great order and plan to things and it's being carried out by very smart people. Evil people, but intelligent and orderly nonetheless.
The reality that we live in a system of chaos exploited by dumb, petty, greedy people is so much worse than any conspiracy.

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end of the kali yuga

The Externalization Of The Hierarchy

the great conjunction of 2020 which brought us into the age of air

agenda 2030

all the outer planets moving, Pluto into Aquarius, Neptune into Aires, Uranus into Gemini

if you know, you know

t. knower

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Yes there are global conspiracies. People who were around twenty years would be very familiar with the actions of the World Bank, WTO and IMF to try and make a global free market. The majority of decision making was done behind closed doors by powerful technocrats.

The left has reacted to the rise of the conspiratorial right by flying too far in the other direction, scared to be labelled rightwing and only seeing systems while ignoring the fact that such systems operate with human involvement.


>Yasmin Sooka, a prominent South African human rights activist, told me that the transition “was business saying, ‘We’ll keep everything and you [the ANC] will rule in name. . . . You can have political power, you can have the facade of governing, but the real governance will take place somewhere else.'” †, 13 It was a process of infantilization that is common to so-called transitional countries—new governments are, in effect, given the keys to the house but not the combination to the safe.

https://naomiklein.org/democracy-born-chains/

>a grand conspiracy would imply they know what theyre doing…
Trump is destroying the economy for neofeudal Silicon Valley reptiles to privatize all the public services and turn everyone into paypigs who literally have to give money for their kids to go outside and play in the sun
>>2233782
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>>2233784
lmao yeah hence all the noise about neofeudalism, crony capitalism, &c (looking at >>2233816)

the middle class is increasingly running up against the barriers established by the competition of big capital, and the only way it can conceptualize this is by referring to the bad old days

capitalism is when most of the middle-class was ascending, but now that the growth of the middle-class stagnates in the countries where capital has accumulated the most, its feudalism!!!! obviously the fault cannot lie with the marvelous economic relations on which they could so greatly depend on

consequently, another culprit must be found

The Great Reset is neoliberalism, it’s been the thing since the late 70’s when labor was broken

>>2233821
It's funny how the rightoids discovered the World Economic Forum in the last few years when Global South leftists have been rallying against it for years and they even built the World Social Forum in response.

Western leftists can only point and laugh at the silly rightoids but have no substantial praxis to counter them

>>2233806
Kali Yuga doesn't end for almost half a million years bruh. We've barely gotten into it.

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>>2233820
>>2233821
>>2233827
It's pretty common to just lay everything at the door of 'austerity' or 'neoliberalism', although exactly why that austerity was necessary to capital in the first place is never interrogated. People like to act as if the bourgeoisie just arbitrarily chose to make cuts for over a decade. The petty bourgeois brand of nationalism sees the purpose of the state in promoting a fat middle class, and when this fixed idea necessarily embarrasses itself before the actual purposes of the state, it is offended - the government is clearly incompetent, or even outright evil.

>>2233831
Are you saying I won't live long enough to see Shadowrun become real?

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The global ruling class or transnational plutocracy is actively conspiring to advance their interests not just for infinite profit but to advance the global economic order to every corner of the globe in preparation for the coming revolution in AI-robotics-genetic engineering to enable and institutionalize a global totalitarian state as the grand apex of world history. Conspiracy is nothing but a mode of social networking that gets baked into institutional-networks of formal power (state security apparatuses and private corporations and business associations) or of informal power (organized crime groups/syndicates), both of which often in many ways overlap. Conspiracy phobia / Anti-conspiracism is nothing more than a psyop by institutions of power through social engineering and cultural conditioning to provide the political camouflage needed to protect and shroud institutions of power and their devious mechanizations and schemes. The pro-conspiracy over-reaction when people realize they're being lied to and slowly enslaved often characterized by anti-WEF hysteria or other more cooky theories is a predictable and manageable counter-reaction that gets consumed and bogged down in the dialectic against anti-conspiracy redditors and halfwitz who are controlled by conspiracy phobia. True enlightenment and analysis comes from breaking free from both to assess every theory on its own basis and to properly integrate a proper understanding of conspiracy into wider frameworks of systemic institutional-network theory.

https://archive.org/details/the-jfk-assassination-ii-conspiracy-phobia-on-the-left/mode/2up

>>2233782
>>2233804
go back to reddit and dont come back till you purge the internalized thought control mechanisms you espouse via conspiracy phobia / anti-conspiracism

>>2233853
It didn't post these for some reason.

>>2233855
Parenti was a retard though.

>>2233863
Parenti was so bang on the money he entirely encapsulated this issue years before the entire Conspiracy Theory Theory school of philosophy as best captured by Coady, Dentith, Basham, Kagan, etc was even a thing or remotely developed. He's also written more books than 99% of anybody on this stupid website will ever write, including you.

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>>2233875
*Hagen not Kagan

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>>2233879
https://archive.org/details/the-mainstream-and-the-margins-noam-chomsky-vs.-michael-parenti

This article not only demonstrate that Chomsky is a hack but that Parenti strikes at the center of almost Natural Law level logic when it comes to conspiracies and conspiracy theories.

>In “Conspiracy Theories and Conventional Wisdom,’ Charles Pigden explains that the stigma attached to certain theories is a way of cordoning off certain critiques as beyond the realms of mainstream acceptability. This is done Pigden claims, through a traditional appeal to status quo ideas about conventional wisdom. They are also extrem pernicious, “For the idea that conspiracy theories as such are intellectually suspect helps conspirators, quite literal get away with murder (of which killing people in an unjust war is an instance).’ If the mainstream ideas about wha constitutes “conspiracy theories” were to be believed, ‘We would be allowed to understand natural phenomena i open actions, openly arrived at. And we might even treat ourselves to unintended consequences provided these not involve secret plotting. But we would be officially blind to covert actions and secret plans.’ Only when a plot) openly acknowledged would it become an acceptable idea. “Again it is worth stressing just how catastrophic the strategy of conspiratorial skepticism would be if we applied it consistently, rather than using it from time to time ° out of political difficulties or to rubbish allegations that we find inconvenient,’ writes Pigden, “But epistemically disastrous as conspiratorial skepticism would be, its political consequences would be catastrophic. For when it co1 conspiracy we would be both officially blind and officially incurious


>Ultimately, the average conspiracy theorist has a better grasp of how the world works than the average liberal. Ev most outlandish “conspiracy theory” in existence-that people like George W. Bush and Queen Elizabeth are shap shifting, extra-dimensional reptilians—is closer to the truth than what liberals believe. The reality is that the ruling and its public servants really do have a parasitic and predatory relationship to the vast majority of humanity; if an should be laughed at and publicly excoriated for their wacky ideas, it's those who think Hillary is su abuela and Bai Obama is a nice guy who would enjoy hanging out with them. When it comes to conspiracy theories, Noam Chor ideas comfort power and Michael Parenti’s ideas expose it.

>>2233896
<Parenti is particularly dismissive of the artificial boundaries between structural causes and individual conspirators pushed by people like Noam Chomsky. In his book Dirty Truths, Parenti writes that

>left critics like Cockburn and Chomsky allow that some conspiracies do exist but they usually a of minor importance, a distraction from the real problems of institutional and structural powe! structural analysis, as | understand it, maintains that events are determined by the larger configurations of power and interest and not by the whims of happenstance or the connivance a few incidental political actors. There is no denying that larger structural trends impose limits policy and exert strong pressures on leaders. But this does not mean that all important policy predetermined.


>It is an either-or world for those on the Left who harbor an aversion for any kind of conspiracy investigation: either you are a structuralist in your approach to politics or a “conspiracist” who reduces historical developments to the machinations of secret cabals, thereby causing us to lo sight of the larger systemic forces. As Chomsky notes: “However unpleasant and difficult it mz be, there is no escape from the need to confront the reality of institutions and the policies anc actions they largely shape.”


>I trust that one of the institutions he has in mind is the CIA. In most of its operations, the CIA | by definition a conspiracy, using covert actions and secret plans, many of which are of the mo: unsavory kind. What are covert operations if not conspiracies? At the same time, the CIA is an institution, a structural part of the national security state. In sum, the agency is an institutionalized conspiracy.


>As | pointed out in published exchanges with Cockburn and Chomsky (neither of whom responded to the argument), conspiracy and structure are not mutually exclusive dynamics…


<Conspiracies are a component of the national security political system, not deviations from it.


<Ruling elites use both conspiratorial covert actions and overtly legitimating procedures at home and abroad. They finance everything from electoral campaigns and publishing houses to mobsters and death squads. They utilize every conceivable stratagem, including killing one of their own if they perceive him to be a barrier to their larger agenda of making the world safe fi those who own it.

>>2233855
parenti misses a bit on conspiracy theory there - it's not enough to say "the rulers are acting with intent" but that they're undertaking specifically illegal and malicious acts that aim to deceive and hurt large numbers of people. This is a bit different from "the farmers are organizing for their interest", it would be closer to saying "the farmers are doing illegal price setting and burning grain"

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>>2233924
In case maybe you were born just yesterday, the ruling class has done everything from lied about catastrophic wars for profit and strategic dominance and rigged the entire economy to implode onto the face of the public with impunity before. Of course though, you werent born yesterday, in which case this is beyond common knowledge, which necessitates that you out of your own way with such worthless pontifications.

>>2233853
>Conspiracy phobia
lmao, that's a good one
All the "conspiracies" are out in the open. There's nothing to theorize about because you can easily fucking see what's going on. The problem is the average person can't be bothered to pay attention and thus when they're hit with the causality hammer many of them attribute it to invisible sinister forces.
Powerful people don't need to hide what they're doing when they face zero consequences for any of their actions. Technofascists write fucking books and blogs about exactly what they're doing. Any serious research/analysis about them is just "here's what they're openly saying they want to do". Even when they do try to hide things they just get leaked anyways. These are not competent people, they are incredibly reckless and clumsy.
You're engaging in irrational distractions and attributing unearned competence to your enemies. Conspiracy theories exist to make the world simple and adversity appear unconquerable.

>>2233946
You clearly dont understand the element of the known-unknowns and unknown-unknowns, which proliferate this issue across defense-intelligence agencies, organized crime networks, and the private-business sector from the publics perspective, as all these different formal and informal institutions of power operate on varying levels of institutional secrecy and opaqueness. The existence and success of Operation AJAX wasn't known to the public till literal decades after the fact, as one example. The informal networks that connect state institutions to organized crime and to the business sector is another massive public blind spot, and is one at the center of what actually went down over the Epstein blackmail syndicate, although there is enough circumstantial information to tied Epstein to Mossad via the MEGA group, but not directly/formally.

The revelations and subsequent persecution of whistleblowers such as Assange, Bradley, and Snowden and the almost certain murder of Michael Hastings demonstrates the institutionalization of secretive-conspiratorial operations and management, and of the ruling classes willingness to ruin the lives of those who exposes them which has certainly intimidated an unknowable amount of other possible leakers and whistleblowers into silent obedience. Bringing up the public NXr pseudo-intellectual sophists like they're actually representative of the rest of the entire power system is grasping at straws, especially when groups like Bildeberg and the Bank of International Settlements hold all meetings behind closed doors. You're just regurgitating the internalized conspiracy phobia programmed into you because you're a lemming halfwit who can't think outside of the limited acceptable range of thought created for you.

>>2233946
What a rigmarole of common sense (aka stupid) assumptions and presumptions to cope with the fact you've been duped your whole life and are too stupid to escape such a state of (un)intellectual affairs. No wonder why you shriek at this by thinking this makes the ruling class out to be unconquerable, one giant cope start to finish.

>>2233957
>>2233957
>although there is enough circumstantial information to tied Epstein to Mossad via the MEGA group, but not directly/formally.
+much less the full scale of the blackmail ring itself, and in what ways it has been utilized towards controlling policy and directives by those who control the blackmail over those enslaved by it.

Does anyone remember that news article that was about how a law firm was going to sue US elites for trillions and then the article got pulled and the editor assassinated or something?

>>2234010
Spire Law Firm and the Krim Sibling murders. That case is not as nefarious as it seems when you realize the CNBC published article was just a press release from the law firm which is why it would have been removed.

>>2228739
exactly. always follow the money.

Everything the right spews is baseless bullshit.
The fact that the richest people in the world are on the right and kissing Trump's ass completely invalidates this.

>>2228739
This, the halls of power are filled with people that believe the line must go up and the line failing to go up signals the endtimes. I don't know who originated this idea but it was spread extremely effectively and you can find people on all sides of politics that believe it on some level.
Personally I think economic rent seeking is the route cause of the majority of economic issues these days but anyone saying you shouldn't make money from simply having money is deemed an extremist by those with money and their useful idiots.

>>2228739
You're right.


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