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Just as a self proclaimed "nazbol" is a nazi, not a communist, a radfem who claims communism is a nazi, not a communist. There is no liberatory potential in the work of zionist wombnationalists. At every turn, with their every move, the radfems side with the reactionary clergy to own the transhumanists, with the white nationalists to own the racial minorities they luridly imagine in their rape fantasies, and with the capitalists against those moid proles.

This isn't even theoretical, it's basic friend/enemy distinction. The radfems are trying to get you to vote Republican. They're conservatives and their faux concern for progress should be read in the same light as Tucker Carlson's Strasserite rants. The question at this point is whether you are or aren't willing to be a useful idiot for the fascists. Lots of self-proclaimed leftists answered wrong, and will continue to answer wrong so long as they believe moralism can ever bring progress.

>>2231768
your post is moralist

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>>2231768
>Radfem to right-wing schizo pipeline
Case in point btw

BTW one of the themes in Naomi Wolf's book about "power feminism" (very 90s) is that feminism had hitherto been too anti-capitalist.

>>2231792
the jannies will get your ass, be careful

>>2231792
>Flagrant divide and conquer.
That's… what you're doing right now.

>>2231792
>cluster outbreaks are well documented
the equivalent of "discovering" divorces rate increased exponentially when woman were allowed to do it

>>2231792
>suck the air out of the room that would otherwise be needed to point out the globalist plutocrats pillaging the country and conspiring for world domination
How exactly do they do that?

>>2231792
>globalist plutocrats pillaging the country and conspiring for world domination
This is stupid, the bourgeois already "dominate" the world (and even then they're still slaves to capital itself, but that's for another thread).

>>2231823
You're talking to a straight-up Nazi. Stalin never talked about shadowy "Globalist plutocratic" conspiracies, it was Hitler that did.

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>>2231839
Log off glinner

>>2231792
Banning systemic arguments demonstrates that transhumanists are defacto capitalists infiltrators that stigmatize and undermine all true class solidarity. There is no overthrowing of capitalism without diagnosing and transcending the first block of pawns sent to defend it.(Rule 12, but it's so retarded it's funny)

>>2231792
I agree. They're still scapegoats and wasting any time fighting the mentally ill is counter productive and just doing what the ruling class set these people up to be.

>>2231906
You have brain damage.

>>2231852
Hmm, because even the CCP is also evaluating and controlling the economy according to the God of Profitability, aka. Capitalism? Guess you don't know about the Rust Belt of North-eastern China, and the famous saying "Investment doesn't go outside of the Shanhaiguan (the Great Wall)" when CCP begging the capitalists to revitalize North East? Or how the drafted laws against predatory practices in gaming industry was quickly shelved away, just because of Tencent and NetEase's stock price was in freefall after the news???
We're all slaves to the laws of capitalism.

That's why Stalin in his book on Economics was cautious against using the methodology of capitalism in socialist economy, it's only thing to apply market relations in sectors where private property still existed (for example trading between nations, trading between state-owned and private-owned companies), but it's another thing to subject all economy under the laws of capitalism (for example, using profitability to evaluate the performance of all state companies).

>>2231912
> Guess you don't know about the Rust Belt of North-eastern China
The what?


You all were warned this would happen. You were told why. You didn't listen. You still aren't. Your tears are delicious.

all I know is that I've never seen a good post under the radfem flag

marx and lenin had little good to say about their contemporary equivalents, too

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>>2231786
One of the problems with idpol in general is that if you don't root your understanding of idpol in materialism and class struggle, you *will* get people joining your movement who have zero connection to those things and instead approach identity politics from a totally different (and probably oppositional) angle. This was a problem all the way back to the first international.

Idpol overdose.

>>2231768
>everything I dont like is nazi
grow up, words mean things, enemies can be many radically different things, and radlibs are far from the biggest problem socialist face, they're not even in power

>>2231924
we dont have a radfem flag, and the recent anarcho feminist poster has been pretty based

Your post is schizo. Please learn to articulate yourself clearly for the betterment of both yourself and the world.

>>2231978
Radlibs calling themselves communists and who represent a large portion of the population are much more of an issue than 21st century nazis who are all a bunch of impotent irrelevant autistic larpers.

>>2231909
And I further agree with you. These people proved they suck the air out of whatever room they are in, and that absolutely any engagement with them no matter what does the bidding of the ruling class they are so toxic and controversial.
>>2231911
I dont, and thats rich coming from the people brainwashed by porky conditioning to the point your neurological disorder shows up on brainscans. You need electromagnetic neural-stimulation and proper meds, not a sex change
>>2231912
You’re an actual revisionist who doesn’t understand firstly the dire importance of building up economic development up and through the capitalist stage towards socialism as per actual Marxism and subsequent Dengism, nor that the CCP still controls the nations financial system, critical economic centers, and is entirely behind the belt and road, and thirdly that the CCP regularly shoots greedpigs in the back of the head. Stalin was a retard who collaborated with Hitler and Deng lifted hundreds of millions out of squalor and the CCP is actively pivoting to make China the new global economic core through robotics, automation, and AI. Deal with it retard.(Transphobia)

OP is right but then they forget that the accusations also apply to themselves.

>>2232021
You have severe brain damage

>>2231978
No, like TERFs literally have strong white Supremacist links. The modern TERF movement originates from Deep Green Resistance.

I place the broader blame though on the nonprofit industry which I see as a form of neo-colonialism colonizing marginalized communities like the Black nation, women and queers. The colonial roots are more direct with the welfare state, eugenics and psychiatry and the extractive abandonment of the mad and the disabled. Anyhow the rape crisis centers funded by the state are a hive of TERFdom and white Supremacy. Also a lot of the women's liberation movement was directly influenced by former Klanswomen (who campaigned for temperance movement beforehand go figure). Read up on some of Kathleen Blee's stuff.

>>2231768
Moralism

>the real enemy is women
noted.

Full 100% distilled idpol.

>There is no liberatory potential in the work of zionist wombnationalists
Nonsensical comparison outside both of them being crybullies with too much political influence on western governments.
For all zionists "flaws" they actually put their bodies on the line for their cause, they #rape Palestinians and get #raped by Hamas jihadists in return. Zionism is real and heterosexual. Radical feminists is fake and gay as it only exist thanks to male simp and male labor.
It does not exist otherwise, Afghani and Iranian women arent gunning down mullah and misogynistic scrote, it is hopelessly gay.

>>2231924
Abortion and contraceptives blew the lid on the mass human domestication of itself, people treated like cattle while women birth as many children as the capitalist needs.
Class struggle practiced by class traitors and leftists alike, in turn forcing immigrants to step up and calling out the elephant in the room that's themselves in exploitative labor.
Feminists and women are intersectionally connected with class struggle regardless of their political view since they are the child bearers, creators of life and all that comes with it.

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>>2232021
>to the point your neurological disorder shows up on brainscans
That means it's even more real than previously thought.
>You need electromagnetic neural-stimulation and proper meds
That's been done without bringing any positive results from the early 20th century til roughly 2015.
I agree with your China/Deng point and Stalin being a retard though. Anti-China uyghas are tiring.
It's also good to mention that Stalin was a transphobic CHUD while the CPC is pro-trans, they learned.

this fight against terfs is kind of a stupid hill to die on when the majority of women IRL would classify as "terfs". the averages womans perception, whether its actually true or not, is that transgenders want to compete with women. they dont like it when you deny biology (which no materialist should), in the sense that their womb is integral to misogyny and status as a woman. ive overheard some of the most normie women chat about "trans athletes ruining our sports" sounding like a fox news host.

frothing at the mouth and treating women who want to protect their definition of womanhood like mortal enemies, when peoples stereotype of you is that you want to compete with biological females, is an awful look and tantamount to self-harm.

>>2234299
women are possessors of the means of reproduction
sex is speculation
trans women compete for male speculation
but cis women are still monopolists

>>2234299
Most workers aren't socialist (i.e. wrong).

>>2234299
>women should be forced to accept my ideology and worldview because if not it hurt my feelings

>>2234313
I say this

>>2234299
>the averages womans perception, whether its actually true or not, is that transgenders want to compete with women.
The majority don't care. They would just look at them weird and keep on with their day.

I bit the bullet of wanting to understand transsexuals, in the end their brains are not even like their desired gender, the brain is a whole different phenotype that are not fully male or female, it's a odd things, point it out that the brains of transsexuals are just wired different, that explain why some transsexuals women still retain autistic male interest like speed running old games.

>>2234299
It's a stupid hill to die on because terfs are basically just right about trans people lol. Don't really get why supposed communists defend transness at all when its completely out of line with physiological understandings that make any sense
And they don't just limit it to genuine dysphorics either, which would still lead to the incorrect assertion that dysphorics are the gender they identify as, but as least thats understandable. No instead they entertain every old smelly autistic autogynephile, either because they are one or because they think it means footsoldiers for their hecking wholesome chungus Real Movement™

>>2231768
>but muh feminism
2016 called, they want their butthurts back

Every week there's a moral panick about how (white) boys jacking off and being edgy is causing Total Woman Rape but you're butthurt if you don't like feminism bro. We must still import 10000kmh of young brown men into the country otherwise all women die too THOUGH. Oh and also gender ideology holocausting women or something Harry Potter said.

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>>2232105
>>2234299
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-024-01507-9
>Study 2 showed that endorsements of intersectional, and radical feminist perspectives were associated with positive attitudes toward trans* people and their rights. Study 3 revealed that both intersectional and radical feminist identifications were also associated with positive attitudes, whilst endorsing gender binary beliefs was associated with negative attitudes.

>>2234418
Neither u nor the hysteric female MPs in Britain have watched Adolescence tbh and it shows. But it is especially funny that manosphere guys would just bring up sissification out of nowhere, its like /pol/tards always bringing up black people unprompted

>>2234433
I'm a radicalized sissy

>>2234424
>panick

>>2234442
Respeck

>>2234299
Truth nuke
>>2234312
Socialism is for the masses(workers) despite their backwards elements.

>>2234404
I half agree with you, transsexuals are people that can't really change their brains, but yeah, flat out denying the influence of physiology because hurt the feeling of couple of transsexuals is stupid and just give more fire to terfs

All of you people would benefit from reading Society Must be Defended (eventho Foucault is a chvd). 50 year old smelly autist mtfs isn't the greatest problem of our time, and everyone trying to convince you they are are grifters trying to shepherd you.

You know what you people sound like? You sound like fox news scaremongering about gaymers shooting up people in games. You sound like CNN scaremongering about chudcel kids watching Andrew Tate. You sound like your fukkin parents whining about weird kids playing DnD. No, the problem isn't the flavour-of-the-month weirdo you just hear about these last few years, the problem is the system itself

>>2234494
>the problems is… LE Systems

People do have freedom of action, I hate when people think that a person is just a puppet of some obscure system, people have free will.

>>2234494
>50 year old smelly autist mtfs isn't the greatest problem of our time
But they litteraly caused mass replacement immigration, incel gender war, TFR collapsing, racism, anti-racism, gamergate, the fall of the USSR, China's opening to foreign investors and Elon Musk importing one billion HB1 to California by 2028

>>2234499
>Umm stop blaming soyciety chvd you have to pull yourself by your bootstrap
See what i'm talking about? All these talks about weirdos inevitably end up in overemphasis of 'personal responsibility'. Soon you people will blame the 2008 crisis on soylennials buying too much avocado toast. See my point about you people being essentially fox news hosts?

>>2234494
They aren't a big problem of our time but self-identified leftoids do all make a bigger deal out of being supportive of transhumanisters than actually holding anti-capitalist views
Also they still advocate a useless, counter-intuitive gender ontology that adds nothing to le discours or anything
Trans people have little intention of overcoming (or even just questioning) gender roles in any meaningful capacity. Also theyre annoying

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>>2234494
>society must be defended.
>muh power imbalances!
<*rapes little boys*

>>2234505
the only issue i have is that most of them are ugly
i tolerate the pretty ones

>>2234494
>You sound like your fukkin parents whining about weird kids playing DnD.
you mean my parent's parents? that shit's old as fuck

>>2234494
>the problem is the system itself
wow, thank you for giving the eye opening revelation that the system is at fault to a communist imageboard. i never even considered this. this whole time i thought transhumanists were responsible for industrial capitalism, american imperialism, and two 9/11s.

the system doesnt mean we cant bitch about the weirdos it creates and encourages.

>>2234505
>this whole time i thought transhumanists were responsible for industrial capitalism, american imperialism, and two 9/11s.
uygha every thread about transhumanists here animate more people than everything in /edu/. Yes trans people don't cause 9/11 but the fact that more people care about this topic than anything else just means that the average chvd cared more about getting their boner killed from seeing trans porn shitting up /gif/ than they do 9/11 and both world wars combined

>>2234473
I don't begrudge transsexuals for being transsexual or anything (and in fact I don't hold it against AGPs that they are AGPS and against HSTS that they are HSTS either) I just think the contemporary rhetoric is unproductive, counter-intuitive and ideological
>>2234512 At the end of the day this is a pointless imageboard to discuss pointless things, but I would ask you why do you yourself end up engaging with threads like this if its particularly wasteful? You end up talking about it yourself in a thread that is specifically about it

>>2234503
>this person rape and killed a girl purely because of socio economics factor and the system, no indivual choice as made or desire to hurt a person, chud!!!!

>>2234517
its a topic that has been discussed publicly for over a decade now and there are no easy or solid answers unfortunately. i think its a fad and it will go back to obscurity in due time, like how many are coming out as de-transitioners and the like.

>>2234521
Also, I believe that so stupid the idea that the system is the ONLY factor to influence people's behavior, millions of people live under the system and yet don't kill or rape or steal, criminal apoligist should be left in a prison with rapist and murder to see the power of the system

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mfs will say the TERF to Nazi pipeline isn't real

>>2231768
ALL feminism outside of Marxism is inherently reactionary cancer

>>2234521
What u guys are doing with trans people is the equivalent of those "pedo catcher" on youtube who think that baiting and beating up autistic uyghas like EDP445 is helping to save the kids meanwhile the biggest institutions of child killers and child rapists in the world ( the armies of bourgeois government, killing children is literally normalized during wartime) runs amok in the world.
Also its fucking hilarious that you're equating trans people to fucking child rapists, like come on man, this is the same thing as calling cuckservatives literally Hitler

Trans people raped me then great replaced my neighborhood with BIPOCs

>>2234526
the "system" is a pretty shitty term tho, i dont know why we're using it. the projects and soho are under the same system with wildly different conditions that are obviously going to result in different psyches/attitudes towards crime developing. thats just basic diamat (material conditions -> culture -> culture reinforces the material conditions)
>>2234512
nothing in /edu/ gets this animated because everyone agrees. obviously a leftist imageboard is gonna agree on the fundamentals of leftism. let people scrap it out on everything else, this is like the only place online you're allowed to that isnt pure /pol/.

>>2234528
She is not wrong to be fair. A lot of things are "embedded" in the social fabric in the same way as trans rights yet don't face the same scrutiny because it is assumed natural that races should mix for example and if you disagree you are no-good bigot. Is that also not "moralism"?

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>>2234543
>the "system" is a pretty shitty term tho, i dont know why we're using it.
I agree. The Nazis also used the term "system" to refer to the Weimar Republic.

>>2234299
most women don't even ID as feminists let alone TERFs what are you smoking. most women like most people aren't particularly political.

>>2234594
thats literally what i said retard. the average apolitical woman would classify as a terf by the colloquial definition (pro-womens rights, bioessentialist), hence why making a boogeyman out of them is counterproductive to trans acceptance. the avg woman doesnt like being denied the importance of their womb, being made to share bathrooms (even if it rarely if ever happens irl), etc. never said identify as one.

>>2234533
Not agreeing with certain aspect of the trans movement doesn't imply that people are after trans to beat them or hunt them down, that way of thinking is just trying to silence opposition

>>2234608
they just let any retard post here huh

yeah houdini still posts here sadly

>>2234608
> Average American is racist so making a bogeyman out of racists is counterproductive.
Grow the fuck up.

The real issue here is that organizing lumpenized groups like transgender people is extremely difficult and the nonprofit industry absolutely wrecks organizing at this level. I think a start might be to unionize the nonprofits/social sector so they're a little less shittier.

>>2234727
>lumpenized groups like transgender people
Assuming you are right about them being lumpenized, then get them to join the workforce…

>>2234529
There's no "marxist feminism" either unless you dilute the meaning of feminism enough as to become meaningless.

>>2234727
We're not lumpenized anymore for the vast majority, that was true 15 years ago maybe, not anymore.
Lots of us have reached working class, middle class and bourgeois status since then.

>>2234732
They would and do, as hairdressers and beauticians

everyone i disagree with is a nazi
anyways why are normies repulsed by communism


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