What exactly is the Order of the Nine Angles?
Where does their ideology comes from?
How the fuck did David Myatt became a muslim out of nowhere?
>>2240463Short version:
The CIA.
Long version:
The CIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA / feds.
Simple as.
>>2240600>at the end of the day the bible says jesus wins in the end so satanists are losers
>One fictional book says one imaginary friend defeats another imaginary friend.You seriously believe that?
Why don't you believe greek legends then bro? Seriously, explain your faith christcuck.
>>2240463>What exactly is the Order of the Nine Angles?Nazi pedophile losers.
>How the fuck did David Myatt became a muslim out of nowhere?Unironically wanted to implement white sharia.
>According to an article in The Times published on 24 April 2006, Myatt then believed that: "The pure authentic Islam of the revival, which recognises practical jihad as a duty, is the only force that is capable of fighting and destroying the dishonour, the arrogance, the materialism of the West … For the West, nothing is sacred, except perhaps Zionists, Zionism, the hoax of the so-called Holocaust, and the idols which the West and its lackeys worship, or pretend to worship, such as democracy… Jihad is our duty. If nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us, they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West."https://web.archive.org/web/20080521153632/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2-2149297%2C00.htmlSince then he's "renounced extremism and islam".
im an o9a fag so i will relate the tale:
the founder of the o9a is anton long, who had a very adventurous life. in the 1971, he came across an arabic manuscript titled:
<"Al-Kitab Al-Alfak (book of the spheres)which was alchemical in nature, and listed the "nine angles" born from the 3 elements. the practical sorcery of these nine angles were produced by david myatt in 1974 (originally in the text "emanations of urania"), by an invention called "the star game", as i have briefly discussed here:
>>>/siberia/653698>>>/siberia/653946>>>/siberia/654531the star game, basically, is myatt's attempt to navigate between the causal and acausal realms by working with "the tree of wyrd", of the septenary hebdomad. mapped onto this tree are 7 stars: naos, deneb, rigel, mira, antares, arcturus, sirius.
the aim of acausal thinking is to transcend mediated thought and so to gain gnosis. myatt is largely inspired by heidegger and jung, so his concern is reaching an authentic dasein by means of weltanschauung (or "pathei-mathos"). this is also his theoretical national socialism, in conjunction with long's inspirations from savitri devi (the "priestess of hitler") - while it is michael aquino (temple of set) who is more inspired by the "runa" (mystery) of himmler's order of the black sun (the same way anton lavey gave emphasis to german expressionism in his theory of horror). modern satanism is largely "german", as we may also see from crowley's appropriation of the OTO and fraternitus saturni.
the nine angles themselves have a twin history. first comes michael aquino's ceremony of the nine angles, attached to the satanic bible, which is the ceremony associated with "the order of the trapezoid"; an internal setian order. these nine angles of the trapezoid arrive in 1969, while long's arrive in 1971. aquino's angles are satanic, while long's and myatt's are hermetic, or alchemical. this is also the major difference to understand. the 7-fold-way is not "satanic", but only has its sinister elements to strengthen dark empathy. at most, it is termed "traditional satanism", so isnt abrahamic, but primordial; almost lovecraftian.
after 1974 we have more canonical texts, such as "the black book of satan" (codex saerus), published in 1983 by "temple of the sun" in yorkshire, which includes in it, the famous "21 satanic points", and then in 1989, we get the most official "naos", which describes the basic system of hebdomadry. in this work, we have a more succinct assignment of the "dark gods" to the sinister tarot, with a description of the nine angles and their gates (as related to the square and seal of saturn).
in 1999, a terrorist known as david copeland let off nail bombs in london pubs. he had connections with david myatt and the o9a (myatt is consequently interviewed by the bbc, and also by "hope not hate"), yet no solid evidence is able to convict him. over time, more attacks linked to the o9a are given. around 2008, an american nexion is founded called "tempel ov blood" (TOB) who publish their own literature. this group had further connections with atomwaffen and james mason (author of siege, and radical defender of charles manson). around 2013 the group was disbanded after it was discovered to have been infiltrated by feds.
of their official literature, there remains the old blogs, archived here:
https://archive.ph/bloodtempel.wordpress.comthe MSS "liber 333", "iron gates" and "bluebird" (which i can attach if anyone requests them). after 2013, a bunch more murders (nexions) have occured, but no great theory has been advanced (since the o9a has been largely inflated with normie nazi stuff). you can also check out the "official" website here:
o9a.org
in my own time i have been trying to restore what has been lost to the o9a, very privately and very carefully.
>>2240463>What exactly is the Order of the Nine Angles?Neo-Nazi Satanic (Sinister tradition) Extremist group
>Where does their ideology comes fromNazism and Radical Islamism (But primarily Nazism and social darwinist political thought)
(Images taken from the book 'The Devil's party: Satanism in modernity.')
>>2241394>its actually alchemy (which was given to the west out of arabia)meme idea. alchemy existed in the west for millennia before arabs even existed as a unified ethnic group. astrology was invented by the chaldeans and sumerians (who are not arabs), at least according to the oldest records, but there are astrological artifacts from far older across other parts of the world.
also that heptagram looks nothing like the o9a symbol
>>2241373Thanks for your rundown.
There have been some o9a fags posting on /leftypol/ before. Not all overtly in the o9a threads; some were apparently posting as part of a project of misdirection.
Not really any worse than trolls or bad faith posters in general.A flag was suggested, based on the trapezoid which you mention, but it wasn't implemented.
>>19707>>19721>>19745 >>2241378"Insight roles" and their Nazi directives
(Imags taken from the book 'The Devil's party: Satanism in modernity.'
>>2241408the hermetica is not even older than the gospels. the very term "al-chemy" is arabic, deriving from "al-kīmiyā", which relates to the greek "khēmeia" (joining together).
>astrologywe were talking about alchemy; the art of transmutation, communicated by hermes trismegistus, not astrology. alchemical ideas have persisted forever, but only in the piscean age, do we get its doctrine.
>that heptagram looks nothing like the o9a symbolreally? maybe you just lack intuition, because with all the details removed and with minor adjustments, it looks very similar. i chose this picture because it is also what is used for reference in o9a manuals.
>>2240463>How the fuck did David Myatt became a muslim out of nowhere?The Book "The Devil party: Satanism in modernity has a theory (image)
>>2241447 (You) Link to the post about "Insight Roles
>>2241462'alcohol' is also an arabic word, yet the greeks drank wine before arabs even existed. curious! you are a midwit when it comes to linguistics, anon
>alchemical ideas have persisted foreveryou contradict yourself then by saying arabs invented it, or it was inherited from them. everything arabs know they plundered from the greeks and babylonians
>>2241447Interesting, but it always seems to be taking insight roles into neonazis, authoritarian theocrats, and so on. It's never hippy-dippy peace campaigners or liberal vicars campaigning against poverty. Which, say what you want, are challenging the system. Not to mention being widely disliked by a big enough section of the public to be considered antinomian, in a way.
Is it too cynical to suggest that it's a matter of pretending to be a neonazi to cover up the fact that you really are a neonazi.
>>2241476>It's never hippy-dippy peace campaigners or liberal vicars campaigning against povertyUnfortunately unless you're insight role is sufficiently edgy and misanthropic you're not going to earn any Good Boy Points with Deo Vindex. Them's the rules
The supreme irony of it all is that given the current forces in power right now, being kind and empathetic has itself become "antinomian" yet you never see Niners sabotage ICE or the FBI, whenever they kill people it's always those at the bottom rungs of society who cant defend themselves. It's just a reproduction of the orthodoxy of state power while pretending you're "rebelling" because you're flying le funni windmill
>>2241475christianity is also borrowed from previous traditions. does that mean there was pre-christian christianity? its a contradiction in terms. so, to historically locate alchemy, we must look at the hermetica, which arrived even after the gospels. this is what we may call historical evidence. what evidence is there that a belief system called "alchemy" existed milennia before this? none. this is where the occult loses its head.
>it was inherited from themit was. alchemy was lost to the west and then returned to them, where it was then combined into rosicrucianism during the renaissance, which helped march forward the protestant reformation, by the "luther rose" in germany and "tudor rose" in england. even the templars as proto-masons worshipped baphomet from being in contact with the arabs and ashashins.
>>2241481well there is also the contradiction today of anarcho-tyranny. the state is the father of crime. so its complicated.
>>2241496The state is the father of crime. Can't remember which French monarch said "L'État, c'est moi ", but crime, or corruption is really B.O.G. Standard for the unchecked state:
https://www.tiktok.com/@graceblakeley0/video/7343289083671678241>>2241373>in my own time i have been trying to restore what has been lost to the o9a, very privately and very carefully.Probably feasible. More so than worldly influence: There's just too much competition now from Andrew Tate-style scammers. Also in the news is Neil Gaiman suing the women who accused him of abuse, for breach of a non disclosure agreement. Really, who needs evil cults?
>>2241623i think of the law thencewise:
what is crime? that which is beyond law.
who makes law? those beyond the law.
(this is my schmittian understanding; i.e. "law" is just the crime of the state itself)
crime is defined by the law and law is defined by crime. without "crime", there would be no law, and no state. therefore, the state must create crime to defend law. this is the general paradox; the greater the law, the greater the crime.
>Really, who needs evil cults?i came to the conclusion a while ago, that one can only be truly evil if he acts in the name of the good, and conversely, one who defines himself as evil, is limited in his activity, by the boundaries of goodness. this is why christianity will always have more blood on its hands than satanism. again, more paradoxes.
>>2240753or we euthanized nazis
>>2241373>im an o9a pedoleast qualified to discuss them, skipped all the CSA shit.
>>2241273It could also be used as a tool to understand how capitalism, consumerism, imperialism and colonialism dehumanises us and robs us of our humanity.
Pic related.
>>2242181Well said, comrade. By contrast, the growing Rank and File Committee movement, despite increasingly desperate denial from the pseudo-left Canannite revisionist renegades, is striking fear into the hearts of the global imperialist monopoly bourgeoisie. Global capitalism - now more than 80 years into its terminal death agony - can only be transcended through the fulfilment of the objective historical revolutionary role of the class-conscious proletariat.
The emancipation of the proletariat must be the act of the proletariat itself - under the sole leadership, of course, of the one true world party of socialist revolution - the International Committee of the Fourth International. In their steadfast struggle against all forms of pseudo-left vulgarisations of revolutionary Marxism, David North and the Socialist Equality Party have won the rank-and-file proletariat to a genuine Marxist programme.
The contradictions of global imperialism threaten a third world war fought with nuclear weapons, and therefore the fate of not just the working class, but the human species itself, depends on resolutely exposing the Pabloites, Grantites, Taaffites, Cliffites, Healyites, Hansenites, Macnairites, Mandelites, Steinerites and all other forms of counterrevolutionary opportunism blocking the path to planetary proletarian revolution.
We urge all workers, youth and intellectuals stirred by this call to action to unite in Rank and File Committees and to contact the International Committee today.
>>2243729The O9A itself is a CIA ploy to sabotage movements by infiltrating them or "insight roles", fpbp
>>2240469Leftpol suffers from LaRouche syndrome and the mods endrose it.
>>2240463Careful now, anon. Myatt
will turn up in the thread and start talking in circles about his esoteric bullshit if we mention his name too much.
>>2244960If anyone's curious, her name is Jillian Hoy and she was dating John Paul Cupp, one of the many O9A guys who converted to Islam in the 2000s and co-ran the DPRK cult with her.
>Jillian Hoy—or “comrade Morrison” of the pro North Korean Rural people’s party holding a Korean trade magazine sent to them by the Pyongyang government in 2008. The photo is from inside the mobile home in rural South Carolina that served as headquarters for the RPP.This is an extremely long and detailed article about everything
https://archive.is/LZ3P7>White Power and apocalyptic cults: Pro-DPRK Americans revealed—American homegrown terrorist groups are the chosen favorites of PyongyangI had these bookmarked from years ago as well, related to Jillian, with Jayalalita being one of her many pseudonyms.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/text/Jayalalita/https://jayalalita.tumblr.com/ >>2244957>all these years I thought it was "order of the nine angels" and I am just now realizing it's "angles"… wtf… mandela effect momentYou probably weren't far off. There seems to be a Hounds of Tindalos thing happening. (Fallen) angels, demons, or other horrors getting in through "sharp angles"
Hence the trapezoid design?
https://bruces.medium.com/the-hounds-of-tindalos-by-frank-belknap-long-1929-97e5636fe7a2 >>2245071Don't know, anon. A lot of this o9a stuff seems like a twisted version of sacred geometry, and number mysticism.
Pic related, from Guthrie's The Pythagorean Sourcebook and Library.
Slightly off-topic, but I remember reading in a book on the Tarot by Paul Foster Case that the Devil, in the card, sits on a "half-cube".
This is supposed to represent the material world, which the Devil is ruler over.
(The full cube in the pic related is different, representing the Earth element.)
So I guess what I'm saying is maybe this unlikely seeming o9a theory is an aid to visualisation **since unless you really are a schizo the Hounds of Tindalos aren't literally going to come through the corners of your room.)
>>2245093>A lot of this o9a stuff seems like a twisted version of sacred geometry, and number mysticismthe occult in general, yes. it is geometry and arithmetic at the bottom of it all, like we can read in the cooke M.S. (1450) of the masons. the o9a is not very "occult" tho. its 9 angles are just the 9 spheres of the cosmos, or the 9 configurations of the alchemical substances (salt, mercury, sulphur). if we read one of the earliest o9a texts, "emanations of urania" (1974), we can see that what is largely discussed is not the supernatural, but a theory of racial dasein, given from spengler and toynbee. 9 years later, we get codex saerus (1983) which is just a re-worked black mass (from anton lavey's original satanic bible). in 1989 we get "naos", which goes more into the theory and practice - but again, its all ecclectic stuff besides the "nine angles" themselves, which are always idiosyncratically assigned to "the star game" and which seems to be the praxis of all sinister sorcery. it amounts to a meditation on the otherness of ourselves, and dissolving duality in order to transcend into immortality. the later rites like "insight roles" also reflect this - where its about the "dark empthy" of the numinous allowing us to overcome the causal world of matter. its an esoteric form of psychotherapy, or self-help basically, which uses a sinister theme. only later sects like the tempel ov blood are expressly satanic and have a deeper occult worldview.
an example is their namesake (english ordinal):
tempel ov blood = 156
drill sgt. grey = 156
six-six-six = 156
>>2247059I believe this was the origin of the Church of Satan / Temple of Set schism.
The modern Church of Satan go so far to describe Michael Aquino, the deceased ToS founder, as a "devil worshipper".
https://churchofsatan.com/satansplain-067-church-of-satan-cosmic-joy-buzzer-1975-1976/?amp In the description on the page. I haven't bothered watching the video. The layman could be forgiven for thinking worshipping the Devil is the purpose of a Satanist organisation.
But these days it's probably more to do with filling a subcultural niche.
>>2247250i agree.
if you listen to interviews with myatt, he is also a defensive, lying worm. like, pick a lane, bro.
people have also offered him "duels" in the past and he has unsurprisingly declined. dishonourable
>>2247334more like having humility in the face of the infinite
why do you resent the God of love?
>>2247340ah, so you are positing a "true" divinity?
and what is this, which is not present in Christ?
What's up with this Lady Gaga concert plot?
>Two people arrested on suspicion of planning an attack at a Lady Gaga concert in Rio de Janeiro were targeting LGBTQ+ people, police said on Sunday.
>According to the Civil Police of Rio de Janeiro, the pair had attempted to “recruit” people, including teenagers, to carry out coordinated attacks at Saturday’s concert, using improvised explosives and Molotov cocktails. The goal of the planned attack, according to police, was “gaining notoriety on social media.”
>Meanwhile, in a separate development following police searches at nine addresses across Brazil, a third person who allegedly planned to carry out a “satanist ritual by killing a child or a baby” during the concert was charged with terrorism offenses, according to Brazilian police.
>>2254217Yeah, seems to be related to CVLT in some way from the way they're describing the "group". One of the suspects was also arrested for possession of CP in Rio de Janeiro AFAIK.
Crazy Shit.
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