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 No.225026[Last 50 Posts]

🗽/USAPol/ - United States Politics 🦅
LYNCHIAN EDITION
Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.


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 No.326661

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US ARMY OFFICER WROTE TO COCKSHOTT

https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2021/06/18/neo-socialism-part-1-2-etc/

We are reaching levels of based I did not even think were possible.
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 No.326663

>>326466
I look forward to the future where fringe rightist paramilitaries and lefty anarchist groups with dozens of members battle it out in the streets, both being repressed by the military-police while being dispassionately ignored by the vast majority of the population.
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 No.326666

>>326661
Quads and this guy will proclaim itself president.
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 No.326670

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 No.326671

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>>326666
>Quads and this guy will proclaim itself president.
Oh shit
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 No.326673

>>326663
lefty anarchist groups are capable of bringing people out in way bigger numbers than righty paramilitaries in the US and also a lot better about seeming like relatively normal healthy people.
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 No.326685

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Clashes between antifa and proud boy forces in Portland
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 No.326695

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 No.326696

>>326334
>>326466
I'm not trying to fool you guys this is just what I remember. I remember the blue lives matter rallies, the pnw clashes, the Philly rallies around Columbus statue, and boogaloo bois marching with BLM.
I really don't remember in the last 5 years the right ever paralleling the left in street organizing, outside of trump rallies
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 No.326723

>>326685
Remember to give sources fir further reading!

>Clackamette Park

Select quotes:
>Local police declared a riot around 3:40 p.m. Friday, June 18 and eventually separated the left-wing and right-wing bands
>The Proud Boys had Clackamette Park reserved, as they have for the past few weeks, when a group of people, including members of antifa, came to confront them. There were minor injuries but no arrests, police said.
>The groups squared off in the park around 3:30 p.m. They traded barbs and yelled at each other, then someone began to burn a flag and the fighting began. “What really sparked the confrontation was a flag was set on fire and the other side charged into retrieve it,” he said.
>“Your [KOIN] viewers have seen this sort of fighting before in downtown Portland, Summer of 2019, with the Patriot Prayer group,” he said. “What’s different today (is) this happened 13 miles away from the central city in beautiful Clackamette Park, in the middle of broad daylight in a suburb.”
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 No.326738

>>326466
>I think social movements like that can build up to the point where it's just a wave that sweeps through the country,
For sure. There were international BLM protests, and hell even international Qanon protests to a smaller degree.
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 No.326744

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>>326723
>one of them has a US flag on top of an Israel flag
can someone explain?
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=8b0OTxkxQeo
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 No.326746

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 No.326747

>>326744
What’s more patriotic than loving Israel?
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 No.326749

>>326466
Those uniforms look like shit. A polo and tan pants? Try harder sweaty.
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 No.326753

>>326749
>tan pants?
Khakis anon.
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 No.326755

>>326749
budget car salesmen, form ranks!
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 No.326762

>>326466
>Uhhhhhh. Were you living under a rock? I think there are different "rights" though. In 2020, I remember more of the "MAGA right" or angry boomer right expressing itself in the streets through these convoys and then they'd drive around. PNW most notably but this was happening all over.
Yupp. I personally ran across Trump convoys on multiple occasions here in Austin.
>>326696
You're crazy. Never seen leftists on the street in my life.
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 No.326818

>>325568
Slavic Buck status : Broken
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 No.326828

I find the social liberal relationship with religion to be very odd. They really hate it when social conservatives use religion to guide their thinking, but LOVE it when people like Biden go to church and talk about Jesus. What's the deal?
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 No.326832

Why is the Juneteenth symbol the solidarity fist with pride colored fingers? Is the end of slavery gay?
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 No.326835

>>326828
They like the idea of religion as a form of virtue signaling, especially if they can portray themselves as “more Christlike” than the people who consider being a Christian a virtue in and of itself.
If they’re religious, they’re generally the “Jesus wants me to be happy so anything I do is okay.” Kind.
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 No.326845

>>326661
>burger politics is so fucked up that militarists nationalists are the only people who understand that economic planning is a good idea
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 No.326848

>>326832
Something something woke, something something BIPOCLGBTQUIAABCDEFG
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 No.326850

>>326673
>people out in way bigger numbers than righty paramilitaries in the US
they can't bring out enough people to challenge the feds, which compared to neo-nazis is THE GREATER SATAN
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 No.326854

>>326848
according to idpol all black people are gay
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 No.326856

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>>325568
BASED PUTIN TOLD BIDEN TO SUCK HIS FAT RUSSIAN COCK LAST WEEK AND GET HIS PIECE OF SHIT MILITARY TECH RIGHT THE FUCK OUT OF DODGE

HOW CAN BURGERSTAN EVER RECOVER FROM GETTING SO CUCKED!?!?

HOW CAN THE UCUCKIANS EVER RECOVER FROM BEING BETRAYED JUST LIKE ALL OF AMERICA’S PROXY ARMIES!?!?
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 No.326917

>>326832
>>326854

Maybe its a Buck Breaking scheme
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 No.326942

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>>326666
>Quads and this guy will proclaim itself president.
LMAO,we're so fucked…thx Obama
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 No.326946

>>326942
Donald Trump is the legitimate Interim President and he will be restored to the White House in August
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 No.326948

Is meme magic "fixing" an election?
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 No.326963

>>326685
Oregon is going to be one of warlord states when USA balkanizes, isn't it
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 No.326974

>stimulus checks
>vaccine autism ending this covid crap
>new federal holiday; one less day of wageslaving
>America is still accelerating as we would have under Trump

ngl, not too disappointed with Sleepy Joe.
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 No.326976

>>326974
You forgot
>COVID Delta variant still spreading all around the world at accelerated rates, unvaccinated countries are already completely fucked while all the imperialist countries which have huge partially vaccinated populations run the risk of allowing Delta to mutate into a variant that can evade vaccine immunity whilst already being more contagious and deadly than the original strain
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 No.326979

>>326976
sounds like /r/collapse cope

regardless, redpill me about the Delta variant. Do you have any reading material?
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 No.326983

>>326974
>stimulus checks
Trump: $1800 Joe: $1400
>vaccine autism ending this covid crap
Nothing what so ever to do with the president. Vaccines were all developed under Trump. Biden did nothing to aid development of the vaccines in his 5 months in office.
>new federal holiday; one less day of wageslaving
Only if you're a fed.
>America is still accelerating as we would have under Trump
GOP isn't as permanently agitated as hysterical libs. Here's hoping the election Trump election challenges don't die off completely.
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 No.326984

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>>326979
> sounds like /r/collapse cope
First time I ever read about this was on the Weird Sex Website actually
Here’s the article
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/06/19/covi-j19.html
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 No.326985

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>>326984
>wsws
give me an actual source
>>326983
>he doesn't have a meme government job
ngmi
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 No.326988

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>>326985
> give me an actual source
<Only bourgeois sources count!
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 No.326989

>>326983
>be janny at courthouse
>allowed off on juneteenth
>"whatever, i hate my job anyway"
<fuckibg feds
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 No.326994

>>326989
Quite sensitive aren't you anon.
*Only if you're a government employee
That make it better?
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 No.326996

How are ex rightoids treated among commies and leftists
>>326673
>and also a lot better about seeming like relatively normal healthy people
You must be kidding
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 No.326997

>>326996
Fine as long as they are cleansed of spooks.
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 No.326998

>>326988
>soijak
opinion completely disregarded. Stop reading WSWS, it's rotting your already withered brain
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 No.326999

>>326996
>How are ex rightoids treated among commies and leftists
With the prevalence of former libs and therefore the prevalence of lib-syndrome. You'll probably be treated as a hero. "This man used to be a hardcore KKK member until a Black lib converted him and now his best friends are black!" Is a favorite tale among libs.

As far as leftists. No one cares. No need to even mention it.
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 No.327001

>>326996
The uyghurman himself, Lovecraft, has had a couple threads dedicated to him
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 No.327013

>>326984
WSWS used to be good, but they became /collapse/tards
>>326974
<no 15 min wage
<no public option
<infristructure bill is unlikely to pass
<if it does pass no nuclear or green energy, so in ten years once the shale runs out were back to dependent on wahabi goatfuckers
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 No.327018

>>326996
> How are ex rightoids treated among commies and leftists
It depends on whether they keep promoting their reactionary spooks
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 No.327024

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 No.327027

>>327013
Yo, I wasn't defending Sleepy Joe. Like I said, we're still accelerating—I'm just pointing out some decen things that have happened.
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 No.327028

>>326832
Ngl it's kinda funny to me as a white gay to see the pride colors forced onto the black solidarity fist. It's like I get to experience the Philly pride flag debacle from the other angle and it's especially comically unnecessary this time.
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 No.327039

>>326996
as an ex-rightoid its good because to many ex-libs carry over really dumb lib ideas when they become leftists
<ex
>1/6 means we need a domestic war on terror
>what a social media company does is their right, they are a private company
>deindustrailization is good
>watching prosports means you are a reactionary
>free trade and globalization are good
all of these takes I have seen on either here or other far-left places on the internent, or in irl
>>327028
as another gay I find pride to be 100% cringe, its a parody of gay people, its clearly made to appeal to AWFULs, not gays, certainly not gay men, both the normal pride flag and brown pride flag look like dogshit, just ascetically, they look like dogshit,
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 No.327044

>>327028
Does it include the chevron thingy?
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 No.327047

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 No.327057

>>326666
Quads for an American Free Officers Movement
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 No.327066

>>327018
<how are ex rightoids treated among commies and leftists
>It depends on whether they keep promoting their reactionary spooks
I think socialism is OK but family and nation good
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 No.327143

>>326854
Don't queer theorists think that humans are naturally genderfluid and pansexual, but society was constructed to suppress this in order to empower hierarchies? IIRC some race theorists use this to say that BIPOC are naturally more queer because white supremacist civilization refused to fully integrate them, so you would probably find people who would agree with your shitpost
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 No.327146

>>327066
>Family good
I agree somewhat
>Nation good
Ultra cringe
Literally a fake nonsense concept to justify your subordination to the rulers of your geographic area
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 No.327165

>>327146
<Nation good
>Ultra cringe
>Literally a fake nonsense concept to justify your subordination to the rulers of your geographic area
I am highly offended
Also serious question can't the existence of nations be compatible with materialism? Engels said in some letter I saw that there's inertia across modes of production, inherited stuff from the older base-superstructure that informs the new one
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 No.327168

>>327066
retard
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 No.327169

>>327165
I mean the existence of nations is compatible with materialism because nations exist
The thing is, nations are not created by proletarians nor do they represent proletarian interests
Nation-states were created going into the bourgeois era and represent the highest mode of organization the bourgeoisie is capable of, the best they can do are regional blocs they use to compete against one another with
The proletarian movement is on the basis of international cooperation whose logical end result is the end of nations

Unironically what about the nation do you even uphold? And don’t say something that exists in every society, like your family, the food you like, etc. What specifically about the idea of the “nation” do you feel is worth upholding? The flag? The anthem? The food? The vacation spots?
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 No.327182

>>327013
<infrastructure bill is unlikely to pass

This always gets me, like why is the U.S empire not even interested in funding the bare minimum of maintaining itself. You think something would have passed under trump.
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 No.327183

>>327169
>Nation-states were created going into the bourgeois era and represent the highest mode of organization the bourgeoisie is capable of, the best they can do are regional blocs they use to compete against one another with
This makes sense
>Unironically what about the nation do you even uphold?
The history of peoples
>>327168
>retard
No u
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 No.327184

>>327182
>Infrastructure spending under Trump
Are you retarded uygha?
>Why can’t America stop itself from crumbling?
Because the politicians have no power to affect any change and the rulers truly do not give a fuck anymore and believe in absolutely nothing now
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 No.327186

>>327183
> The history of peoples
Those existed before nation-states were created and will exist long after
Honestly what’s much more interesting to me is the idea of socialism removing these differentiations and allowing mankind to act mostly as a unified mass
Imagine the sheer power and technological advancements of mankind acting towards the betterment of the conditions of the whole species?
That’s unironically how you get a Star Trek tier quality of life
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 No.327187

>>327182
>This always gets me, like why is the U.S empire not even interested in funding the bare minimum of maintaining itself
Because the liberals have made it clear further democratic capitalist growth is at the expense of half of the nation, and this isn't a product of capitalism receding in shared prosperity but a reckoning instead with its historic exclusivity
I think the right has a 'we are done here, make your move and breakup the union' attitude towards national politics
Perhaps the socialists could've offered an alternative, I'm not sure. Do socialists think the limited appeal of liberals is because of how reactionary conservatism is or how bourgeois liberalism is? Could you reach out to the countryside in a way liberals couldn't?
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 No.327192

>>327186
>Those existed before nation-states were created and will exist long after
>Honestly what’s much more interesting to me is the idea of socialism removing these differentiations and allowing mankind to act mostly as a unified mass
Imagine the sheer power and technological advancements of mankind acting towards the betterment of the conditions of the whole species
I used to wonder the same but i think world communism would create the freedom that allows greater differentiation
Because of entropy. Africa has so many languages and ethnicities because of how old it is. I think the world would become more complex not more homogeneous under world communism
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 No.327197

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>>326666
HOLY SHIT
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 No.327201

>>327192
Well united humanity =/= homogeneous humanity
Just consider the US, ignoring race, would you say it’s really a homogeneous society regardless? I wouldn’t say it is even if Euros love memeing against it.
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 No.327204

>>327187
> Do socialists think the limited appeal of liberals is because of how reactionary conservatism is or how bourgeois liberalism is?
The limited appeal of liberals is largely the fact that they consistently reveal themselves as nothing more than “nicer” promoters of the exact same regime of austerity and police repression at home and imperialist interventions abroad. They’re despised because they offer the same program as the Republicans with just a different set of slogans.
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 No.327236

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This is so inspiring bros
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 No.327243

>>327236
Using the term "ruling class" in a supposed democracy without an ounce of self-reflection.
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 No.327272

>>326661
Peronism with American characteristics when
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 No.327273

is that an unironic headline
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 No.327281

All the riot police quit in portland
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 No.327283

I don't even have real political beliefs I just don't like bourgies. Simple as.
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 No.327290

>>327281
SUCKS IT PIGGIES
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 No.327311

>>327243
https://archive.is/M5SqH
good thing it was caught in an archive
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 No.327340

File: 1624137055588.jpg (99.59 KB, 1280x1177, wtflol.jpg)

somehow missed this
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 No.327345

>>327182
>like why is the U.S empire not even interested in funding the bare minimum of maintaining itself
infrastructure spending does occur at the state and local leave,, with some feds money, its just so half assed
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 No.327385

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>>327340
Fake, gay.
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 No.327394

Alright, which one of you killed the dog
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 No.327396

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NEW - National Security Agency has agreed to produce records about the FBI’s illegal snooping on 16,000 Americans, according to a response to a FOIA request. The agreement may signal a rift between the NSA and the FBI.
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 No.327398

>>327396
Which side we critically supporting bois?
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 No.327400

>>327398
NSA has the potential to be worse than the FBI and CIA combined if they're given enough power
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 No.327401

I will feel not sorry killing russians. I woul enjoy killing americans much more. Its geographic thing and China has played itself into top dog position with diplomacy. Pearl Harbouour 2.0 soon. .
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 No.327403

>>326661
American Carnation Revolution soon inshallah
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 No.327412

>>326685
Pepper spraying each other is so gay and boring, call me when they start shooting each other
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 No.327427

>>327385
Still pretty bad tbh, but looking like shit is part of Boris' persona.
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 No.327431

What does it mean for liberalism and capitalism to cease being progressive, and what implications does this have for liberalism launching a struggle against racism when capitalism is in crisis?
Is this question basically why the far left is divided?
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 No.327432

Is there a good term to describe the "woke lib" mindset? Radlib, woke, shitlib, SJW, idpoler, CRTists are all unfit for describing them in a serious way. Some people call them the "successor ideology" "Brahmin left" "luxury belief left" but none of those have caught on.
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 No.327433

>>327281
So are they going to form a Free Corp? They're kind of jobless now.
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 No.327436

>>327432
Synthetic left
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 No.327441

>>327432
Libs still aren't left-wing. Shitlibs just parrot State Dept. propaganda. What exactly does "woke lib mindset" entail?

>>327431
Do not assume those struggling against being literally killed by cops to be liberals, even if liberals really like to appropriate their struggle.
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 No.327458

>>327441
>Do not assume those struggling against being literally killed by cops to be liberals, even if liberals really like to appropriate their struggle
I was talking about institutions and their struggle against their roots that they are undertaking to reproduce themselves. I wasn't talking about black people and their organizing, just liberalism as a ruling class ideology
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 No.327465

>>327458
What "struggle" are you talking about and where? Joe Biden said the cops would receive even more funding.
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 No.327472

>>327385
>>327340
>Boris Johnson's wife is actually kind of cute

da fuk
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 No.327475

>>327465
>What "struggle" are you talking about and where? Joe Biden said the cops would receive even more funding
CRT and decolonization
You can even find decolonizing campus event/workshop posters on the way to class
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 No.327486

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>>327475
Ah yes, the part where liberals argue "against" fascists, and affirm their worldview. That's a "struggle".
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 No.327494

>>327486
<Ah yes, the part where liberals argue "against" fascists, and affirm their worldview. That's a "struggle
>ah yes, when the left wing of capital struggles against its right wing
I hate when you guys do this shit
Can you take this seriously for a second? Is there a connection between liberalism ceasing to be progressive and then claiming to struggle against its roots in order to universalize? Is it an expression of how liberalism cannot alter the capitalist world, only make us leave behind what precedes it?
Or, conversely, is it evidence that liberalism did not cease to be progressive as capitalism became imperialist?
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 No.327498

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Glizzy gladiator
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 No.327500

>>327398
Depends on which flavor of authoritarian security state you like. FBI has been becoming pete bootyjuice types and never trump republicans. NSA are heavily influenced by silicon valley weirdos so dark enlightenment surveillance capitalism types. CIA is bog standard neo-cons.
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 No.327525

>>327500
You're out of date. EVERY intelligence agency is dominated by socially liberal democrats. CIA is still neocon in the sense they love intervention, but they justify it through feminism and gay rights instead of "Judeo-Christian values and democracy". The techno-reactionaries only exist in the private sector now.
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 No.327526

>>327525
>they justify it through feminism and gay rights
uyghur the justification is resources and will always be, it doesn't matter what the commercials say. Why would anyone take the CIA at face value?
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 No.327528

File: 1624145847955.png (1.23 MB, 1260x806, liberal flag.png)

I know we all hate the American flag here, but can we all agree that the flag some liberals want to replace it with is even worse?
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/559261-singer-macy-gray-the-us-flag-is-tattered-dated-divisive-and
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 No.327529

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>>327528
I dunno, it sums up their position quite nicely.
A whole lot of effort and performance to promote "diversity", while still reproducing the oppressive circumstances of this nation's status quo.
A whole lot of dancing around the issue to avoid ever actually changing anything.
It's still America. It's still the evil empire. The liberal's only problem with it is its PR.
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 No.327531

>>326828
it's pretty simple rightoids will use religion to tell you what to do, Biden will just tell you what to do and get ignored. Also it's completely disingenuous when a degenerate 80s cokefiend like Trump pretends to be religious.
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 No.327533

>>327531
The only time I remember Trump catering to religion was the bible photoshoot during BLM last summer. He gave most of that job to Pence. I think Obama appealed to Christianity more than Trump did.
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 No.327536

>>327533
Republicans believed that Trump was saving Christianity and claim god is working through imperfect vessels.
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 No.327588

>>327398
NSA taking the 16,000 to spy because FBI is taking a slice of their cake?
What are you talking about?
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 No.327603

>>32753
Were you drunk the last four years. He was a fucking Republican. Like half the shit he ever said had something to do with God.
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 No.327615

Anons a lot of my family is bourgeois and I have a friend that comes from that background as well. I'm currently at there mansion, huge personal theater and pool… I come from the depths of the worse trailer parks America has. I visit my friend 2 days now I feel so much more happy and healthy. Tell me if you have any experiences crossing class lines like this. I feel so robbed looking across the curtain, I didn't have to have the malnutrition and childhood trauma. I see the person I could be and the happiness of a inch of stability brings. Sadly I'll be venturing back to my trailer and the curtain will fall again. The material dictates the individual and to say otherwise is straight spooked unironically
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 No.327624

>>327528
>rich black woman wants to make white stars on flag brown and black
>this will destroy racism, also pls don’t take back your money you ungrateful proles
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 No.327638

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>>327615
>Tell me if you have any experiences crossing class lines like this.
Yeah bro, same. Trying to not be all visibly jelly when you're there. Your richer friends and family don't want to hang out at your place of course. I know how it goes.
>The material dictates the individual and to say otherwise is straight spooked unironically.
Some shit we can't take back like the malnutrition and traumatic childhood. But you have to work with what you have.
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 No.327639

>>327615
Sorry to hear that anon, I know what you mean, I often wonder what my life might have been like if I wasn't born to unemployed depressed benefit scroungers. Maybe I wouldn't have turned out the exact same way.
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 No.327641

>>327615
>>327638
>Your richer friends and family don't want to hang out at your place of course.
I have a rich aunt/uncle and my uncle never let my cousins stay over at our place. Like he'd be letting his children be in jeopardy if they stayed in my neighborhood. I have a German half sister and the time she stayed with us, she flipped the fuck out when I left the back door unlocked one day when she was staying.

It's like motherfuckers…. I live here ever day for my whole life and you're acting like one day and you're about to get murdered.
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 No.327644

>>327526
No that’s the actual reason, not the justification
And the actual reason also isn’t resources but actually control over markets and the domination of national economies by US firms
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 No.327655

File: 1624154198471.jpeg (822.1 KB, 1920x2304, ber.jpeg)

Anyone else jumping ship? Which country are yall moving to? Which country is booming and open to cooming?
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 No.327656

>>327655
Still thinking about it. Still don't know another language and I'm not sure if I can really get used to speaking another for all my interactions TBH.

>Which country is booming and open to cooming?

I dunno, I figure I can do well anywhere in that regard. Although I guess we can't go anywhere besides Europe with being called a sexpat.
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 No.327658

>>327528
Who said we all hate the American flag…?
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 No.327660

>>327655
Anywhere in the Russophere or Sinophere should be fine.
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 No.327662

>>327660
Fuck no, those countries are worse than Amerikkka.
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 No.327665

Germany seems to be the safest bet tbh
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 No.327681

File: 1624157268708.png (458.94 KB, 702x395, ClipboardImage.png)

>What if the stripes were OFF-white?” she questioned. “What if the stars were the colors of ALL of us — your skin tone and mine — like the melanin scale?
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 No.327687

>>327281
Can someone explain to me why Portland is so active in uprisings more than any other state in the US?
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 No.327691

So why exactly are we not all back to rioting? Nothing's changed. In fact, everything's getting worse.
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 No.327693

File: 1624158863670.gif (114.84 KB, 570x537, AC5A2BB2-AE8F-4AA0-8CAB-4E….gif)

>>327691
>So why exactly are we not all back to rioting? Nothing's changed. In fact, everything's getting worse.
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 No.327696

>>327687
the city is filled with people on the far-left and far-right, don't know why that is
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 No.327701

>327693
Literally not even a reply.
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 No.327708

>>327696
you know exactly why…
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 No.327711

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 No.327717

>>327665
>>327662

I hope you have a 4 year degree or more in a high demand field if you think you are living anywhere developed or English speaking world.
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 No.327718

>>327528
they should put the rainbow with the chevron in place of the stars
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 No.327721

>>327696
The PNW is basically two warring tribes of white people.
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 No.327747

>>327281
>>327687
If Joe wants to ban all whitey supremacists and anarkiddies the only way he can prove he means it is if he sends tanks to west coast cities, at which point he's basically doing what even Trump never could
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 No.327748

>>327639
You wouldn't have turned out that way, you would have had the stability to go to college and while there actually think it'd help you. poor kids go to college and get a mcjob, bourgies are able to get a "career" due to nepotism not skill BTW
You'd have hobbies and have the capital to have them. You would be the person you probably want to be and the only reason like me you can't is $$$.
Poverty isn't a character flaw, being a prole isn't a defect. Porky tries his damnness to make it seem like personal character flaws, NEVER fall for it.
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 No.327750

>>327641
Bourgeois FAM are such pussies, they'd kill themselves a week in our shoes. Yet they have the gull to ask us to "just get out of it".
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 No.327880

File: 1624175681023.jpg (93.21 KB, 728x546, 8e30ba7d298f4f528e304de14e….jpg)

>>327187
>Perhaps the socialists could've offered an alternative, I'm not sure. Do socialists think the limited appeal of liberals is because of how reactionary conservatism is or how bourgeois liberalism is? Could you reach out to the countryside in a way liberals couldn't?
Maybe but it'll take a long time and be really slow and hard. But the left simply doesn't have the votes, isn't very well organized, can't do long-term planning, and is extremely vulnerable to wedge issues. If there was a real groundswell of left-wing attitudes in the electorate, they'd have the votes. But what we have right now is 40% of the population voting with the GOP and a system that gives that 40% way more political influence relative to their numbers as a rural bias is baked into the political system. They are also intransigent. So you're stuck with this stonewall of reactionary politics and on the other side is a more fluid spectrum of attitudes.

The Democratic Party is a mix of suburbanites, educated professionals, middle-class property owners, black religious conservatives who'd be republicans if not for the racism, black progressives, LGBTQ people etc. etc. etc.

The political views represented therein are sprinkled all over the country with a few deeply concentrated strongholds in places like AOC's district. Americans as a society want nice things but they don’t want their lives to be inconvenienced or subject to added costs. So the Democrats have to balance what its progressive grassroots wants with what a not-insignificant amount of selfish people who vaguely identify as progressive but don't want to make sacrifices want. Nothing is going to change until the voters are convinced. Even dictatorships and monarchies are ruled by some degree of consent from those being ruled. I think the current policies Biden is pushing from the White House is probably what's acceptable to the general 50%+1 of the electorate that put him there.

Lastly, when faced with the prospect of Republican presidents who are continuously getting worse and worse, the liberals are increasingly getting more and more conservative, in the sense of "risk adverse," so anything the left does that is perceived to hand more power to Republicans forms a wedge between the left and centrists as centrists/liberals really don't want to see another batshit Republican in office in their lifetimes. If the left is perceived as throwing another election to the Republicans, that is game over for the left. Not that the left is given much room to "play" in the game in the first place.
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 No.327890

>>327187
I also wouldn't underestimate the bitterness of the right. There are a lot of people on the right who think Trump was the greatest president in American history and his second term was cruelly snatched away from him… by the left. They believe socialists and communists are the reason why they don't have more Trump. Trump Trump Trump. I don't think they will forget that. They will hold to that until their dying breaths. Ultimately people can only be won over to a particular point of view or political trajectory if they're willing to be.
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 No.327893

Any one else get fuck all of their taxes back this year, thanks Biden.
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 No.327914

>>327880
You really shouldn't accept the neoliberal double blackmail, that's what's causing the weakness on the left.
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 No.327917

>>327880
>Lastly, when faced with the prospect of Republican presidents who are continuously getting worse and worse
They aren't though. W was worse than Trump. Name anything Trump did that was worse than the Iraq war. Reagan was also arguably worse in that he left a much bigger destructive impact.
Trump is just a more obvious clown who doesn't fit the way a Pres is supposed to act. His worse-ness is surface-level.
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 No.327926

File: 1624179500711-0.jpg (998.93 KB, 1568x2146, 1475371937497.jpg)

File: 1624179500711-1.jpg (968.68 KB, 2036x3051, 1485566052933.jpg)

>>327494
The more you talk about race, the less you have to talk about class.
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 No.327989

>>326661
pretty good email but his nose-upping at anti-imperialism is troubling but what else can you expect from an army officer
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 No.327995

>>327528
Military-Industrial-Bezirk raytheon will have their pride logo as the stamp on their flag when we reach the city state phase
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 No.328017

>After calling it "Jim Crow 2.0" Joe Biden admin and Stacy Abrams (Once it most ardent critic) have begun to shift messaging to signal they are willing to support West-Virginia senator Joe Manchin's call for "comprehensive voting reform to prevent fraud"
West-Virginia is steering the union.
God help us.
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 No.328034

>>328017
>West-Virginia is steering the union.
Specific oligarchic interests that are inside and outside West Virginia are steering the union behind Manchin.

The fact Manchin hasn't been expelled from the Democratic Party shows they are all in on a big con job together.

We need to go back to 2020 protests.
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 No.328047

>>328034
Many of the fossils in the top ranks of the D party think it's unusual that they don't have conservative democrats anymore which is why they uphold Manchinist thought and spend millions on Doug Jones
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 No.328054

>>328034
It's not so much a con job, as it is progs not getting what the Democrats actually are, and what the Democrat base actually is. Progs work themselves into a wank and think everyone is a secret social democrat or something silly.
The bigger con is that Manchin would be unseated by any Republican opponent that was at least trying, but the GOP puts up such ridiculous wingnuts so they can throw the election basically. That is often the story with these Democrats in deep red states, which tells you just how engineered this process is.
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 No.328107

>>327655
>leaving when the actual struggle is going to begin
What the fuck is wrong with you
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 No.328122

>>327655
Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland

not necessarily booming, but doing pretty well for themselves and definitely open to cooming
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 No.328143

>>328122
Half those countries are booj hideouts and/or hate nonwhites
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 No.328149

>>328143
>booj hideouts
not saying they are particularly moral, just good places to live.
>hate nonwhites
I guess that goes without saying if we are talking about a European country.
Although its not worse than the US.
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 No.328155

If you, unprovoked, attack a burger flipper, cashier, or a waiter, you should just be summarily be executed on the spot, bullet to the head. People should then be compelled to act as if nothing happened and go about their daily business until your family takes your body home, guts gore and all. Arm all service workers with heavy pistols.

The Purge, but Part-Time
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 No.328167

>>328155
who hurt you
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 No.328168

>>328167
No one hurt me personally, but the interest of my class requires the death of anyone against it.
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 No.328269

>>327013
>unlikely to pass
pretty sure Joe already removed the bill entirely from congress
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 No.328278

File: 1624198538618.jpg (81.1 KB, 995x1280, 1624198535728.jpg)

Happy Fathers Day from Trump
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 No.328288

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 No.328339

>>328288
how?
how has someone been able to create something worse the wojak cartoons
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 No.328354

>>328278
i miss this retard like you wouldn’t believe
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 No.328376

I wonder if we'll actually live to see the American flag abolished? There's a lot of talk about it being racist and "democracy protestors" abroad are using the pride flag more and more…
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 No.328387

File: 1624205909565.png (1.43 KB, 1200x741, All Niggers and Mudshits a….png)

>>328376
>I wonder if we'll actually live to see the American flag abolished? There's a lot of talk about it being racist and "democracy protestors" abroad are using the pride flag more and more…
Nahhh. LMAO at USA going to the fag flag. Even the fag flag is racist now though.
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 No.328391

>>328387
>that filename
anon pls
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 No.328393

>>328387
I don't mean that the pride flag will replace the burger flag, but either the American flag will be replaced by something new or will be kept but will be considered to be trashy and nationalist to use, like the English or German flag. The intersectional flag will remain popular to fly and will end up being the de facto symbol of America.
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 No.328395

File: 1624206448515.png (11.15 KB, 640x734, ClipboardImage.png)

>>328387
>Nahhh. LMAO at USA going to the fag flag. Even the fag flag is racist now though.
>N*ggers and mudshits
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 No.328399

File: 1624206750766.gif (4.53 MB, 720x404, Alex Jonetinhat.gif)

>>328387
>even the fag flag is racist now
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 No.328403

>>328399
He's not entirely wrong, the old rainbow flag is becoming taboo. There's a new one with a black/brown/trans/yellow wedge eating it that you're supposed to use.
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 No.328405

>>328391
>>328395
Iss sarcastic, I don't like being a "colored" especially when the yellow stripe would've been Asian and the red Strip Native American just half a century ago, but I have to be "Black and Brown" uyghur = Negro = Black. Brown = You look like mud, when literally everyone on Earth is a shade of brown. I hate liberal faggots.
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 No.328406

>>328403
Annoying liberals, are annoying.
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 No.328410

File: 1624207135468.jpg (15.36 KB, 192x400, Asians.jpg)

>>328405
I'ma start calling Asians yellows again if they keep calling me black or brown.
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 No.328414

>>328403
We should just make a gradient flag that combines every single RGB value into very small discrete stripes to preempt this.
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 No.328420

File: 1624207473537.jpg (37.06 KB, 455x445, Color Test.jpg)

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 No.328422

>>328376
Xey should replace it with the rainbow and chevron flag
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 No.328425

>>328278
>>328354
Interim President Donald Trump will be restored to the White House in August
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 No.328429

Anti-idpol rules should be enforced again, jannies are impotent in the face of even a handful of /pol/yps lmao
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 No.328430

>>328420
It's like a goddamn optical illusion.
Question 1:
Light brown
Question 2:
I'd say brown but the wide nose and tight curls are leading me to believe that color is black.
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 No.328431

>>328429
Shut up cracker.
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 No.328437

>>328431
Nah I'm not white, your cracKKKa a$$ should shut the fuck up *though*
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 No.328439

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 No.328440

>>328437
>Nah I'm not white, your cracKKKa a$$ should shut the fuck up *though*
Nah. You're definitely a cracker you fucking retard.
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 No.328443

>>328439
Shut up cracker.
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 No.328446

File: 1624208361012.jpg (775.09 KB, 600x2834, Complete pantone.jpg)

>>328414
>We should just make a gradient flag that combines every single RGB value into very small discrete stripes to preempt this.
We have reached peak inclusivisity.
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 No.328457

>>328446
>Iron Curtain
…..
>Flesh
….
>T-5000

>BRAIN
What a meme pallet
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 No.328461

>>328387
>Filename
Kek
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 No.328464

>>327917
>Name anything Trump did that was worse than the Iraq war
Oh sweetie, he ERODED faith in our INSTITUTIONS
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 No.328476

File: 1624209872432.mp4 (6.71 MB, 1280x720, VID_20210620_132358_092.mp4)

UPDATE - US Navy released the footage of the 40,000-pound bomb explosion that triggered a M3.9 quake during a "shock trial" on the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford.

this was off the coast of Florida
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 No.328479

>>328376
>I wonder if we'll actually live to see the American flag abolished?
Probably not.
You guys realize this "new flag" was just some delusional R&B singer's proposal? Newspapers report this shit pretty much just to make conservatives mad. No one's seriously considering it.
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 No.328486

>>328479
There was a study last year where over half of "very liberal" people were in favor of changing the flag, national anthem and blowing up Mt. Rushmore (based)
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 No.328487

>>328479
Ragebait should be tactically used to draw culture warrior faggots out into the open like this thread has shown
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 No.328495

Is there any chance that Biden makes PR and/or DC states?
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 No.328503

>>328495
Very doubtful
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 No.328506

>>328495
That would actually be smart, so he won't do it.
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 No.328539

>>328476
Yo mama so fat her farts need a countdown
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 No.328558

>>328495
That would mean the Dems win every election for at least another decade, and they don't want that.
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 No.328580

>>328486
I like you guys. Don't visit Mt. Rushmore tomorrow.
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 No.328616

So, how long until massive favelas in the US? Will the people ever put up a fight?
Or are we all already dead?
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 No.328669

>>328616
I don't see it happening tbh, piggies will probably crack down on unauthorized construction about as fast as they crack down on anything.
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 No.328676

>>328669
But there's gonna be so many goddamn people just out on the streets, what are they gonna do? Just fucking massacre them wholesale? Literally start a fucking war against the homeless?
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 No.328844

>>328676
Yes the Bell Riots will happen in 2024, thus proving the "Gene Roddenberry/Rick Berman is a time traveler" conspiracy.
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 No.328891

File: 1624228491098-0.jpg (269.4 KB, 1000x562, b90b36ea6a81482ca37e9b0ce5….jpg)

File: 1624228491098-1.jpeg (399.52 KB, 665x842, Chile_quema_libros_1973.jpeg)

File: 1624228491098-2.jpg (4.87 MB, 1957x2498, Postcard_of_the_lynched_Je….jpg)

Do tools exists for the automated identification of reactionaries from past photographs? Once in power, it will be necessary to identify each and every single past perpetrators of wrongs, from which they will all be rounded up and punished.

Chile needs to be punished, Indonesia needs to be punished, the US needs to be published. No wrong must be allowed to escape whether through retirement home or grave.
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 No.328919

>>328891
Can't leave something like that to automation. It will require living rigor and human judgement.
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 No.328928

>>328486
Do you have link, title, or author
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 No.328942

>>328891
Automating this would require heavy cross referencing in order to verify that the model produced accurate results. It would have to be age progressed facial recognition, I have no idea if that exists or not.
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 No.328958

if the flags always require more stripes to be added there will be more flags that can be sold though, so it's not all bad
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 No.329003

>>321539
Minneapolis is one of the most segregated cities in the country and Minnesota has some of the largest racial disparities, solidly Northern, solidly blue state (Only state not to vote for Reagan, has been voting "blue" longer than the Left Coast or NY)

people here are just very passive-aggressive with their racism
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 No.329145

File: 1624245188647.mp4 (677.2 KB, 256x256, w2zsdb.MP4)

So do we think Zion Don will run again in 2024?
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 No.329149

File: 1624245705470.jpg (159.83 KB, 1280x720, ''Where?''.jpg)

>>329145
The real question is, will he run as a Republican?
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 No.329183

>Imram Khan supports US withdrawl from Afghanistan in interview, calls for an end to CIA operations in Pakistan, Claims the CIA is responsible for Pakistan-India conflict, divisions in Pakistani society along ethnic and social lines.
Inb4
>”PAKISTANI DICTATOR (AND WINNIE POOHS PUPPET) IMRAM KHAN ARRESTS PEACEFULLY PROTESTING BEHEADER. PLZ ANERICA BRING US LIBERTARD!!!!”
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 No.329186

>>329145
I don't think so, I think he'll just be a hype man until he dies. That's what he actually enjoys.
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 No.329188

File: 1624250907314.jpg (177.63 KB, 1200x799, excerpt-DP-Pamphlet1-e1480….jpg)

>>329183
I preemptively support filtering "Balochistan" to One Big US Military Base in Pakistan
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 No.329190

>>328676
I was imagining Richard Spencer running over homeless people with his car and it's a pretty funny visual
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 No.329196

>>328495
Puerto Rico, yes. The republican candidate over there is posting qanon stuff and some Latina milfs already got to Hunter .
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 No.329201

>>328403
How do liberals not understand that using the color black to represent AIDS is a mistake. Just including brown on a rainbow flag doesn't even make sense.
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 No.329259

Socialist programs in the U.S.:
The Department of Agriculture, Amber Alerts, Amtrak, Public Beaches, Public Busing Services, Business Subsidies, The Census Bureau, The CIA, Federal Student Loans, The Court System, Dams, Public Defenders, Disability Insurance, The Department of Energy, The EPA, Farm Subsidies, The FBI, The FCC, The FDA, FEMA, Fire Departments, Food Stamps, Garbage Collection, Health Care, Public Housing, The IRS, Public Landfills, Public Libraries, Medicare, Medicaid, The Military, State and National Monuments, Public Museums, NASA, The National Weather Service, NPR, Public Parks, PBS, The Peace Corps, Police Departments, Prisons and Jails, Public Schools, Secret Service, Sewer Systems, Snow Removal Services, Social Security, Public Street Lighting, The Department of Transportation, USPS, Vaccines, Veteran Health Care, Welfare, The White House, The WIC Program, State Zoos.
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 No.329260

>>329258
>Claims to be “anti-woke”
>Posts someone with “he/him” in bio
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 No.329265

>>329258
I'm personally a Riddick fan. He's the most alpha of the chads.
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 No.329269

>>329258
>people STILL parroting the "Atreus isn't his son" meme even after the director clarified it
Sad.
>boiling Joel down to "lol cuck" because nuance is hard
Sad.
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 No.329605

File: 1624284694325.jpg (7.45 KB, 169x200, t_bf1cf681a9405d34c0d4cb51….jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaTAWVlrGCE&lc=z224jtqhqub3sjemxacdp4300sdifhda1w2y5rd0yldw03c010c
we had been so cucked and brainwashed by car-dependent suburbia bullshit that making your city useful for pedestrians is a "urbanist scheme"
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 No.329624

File: 1624285203503.jpg (30.65 KB, 199x132, b0e.jpg)

>>328387
pic related is new burger flag
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 No.329629

>>328476
they have been doing this to burkes a lot, its meant to simulated a Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile striking (near) US navy ships.
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 No.329632

>>328405
>Is just joke obviously
<No you fucking cant insult whites that’s idpol
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 No.329748

>>329145
>>329186

Pro-democracy activist Donald Trump will win in 2024. He will then remove term limits and become God Emperor for life
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 No.329752

File: 1624292641165.png (645.44 KB, 1170x1080, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.329755

>>329149
He could try another 2000 and fund a Perot party to instantly win a nomination since his brain would be too fried to debate in the GOP
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 No.329760

>>329752
Based, Comrade General-Secretary Xi, America requires liberation. We at /leftypol/ are willing to provide assistance to any Chinese forces in disarming Americans, providing administrative support, translation, and any other methods which will put America on the road of Xi Jinping Thought and Socialism with American Characteristics.
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 No.329762

File: 1624293068297.png (319.97 KB, 590x478, blinken gusano.PNG)

GUSANOS EVERYWHERE
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 No.329766

>>329762
Xir is somehow worse than Mike Pompous
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 No.329774

>>329752
>say the Jew thing but coat it with yellow
how is this any different from Nazi rhetoric about the USSR circa 1934, do Americans even know the disaster they're going to plunge themselves into
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 No.329806

>>329201
>How do liberals not understand that using the color black to represent AIDS is a mistake. Just including brown on a rainbow flag doesn't even make sense.
The Black is supposed to represent Black people.
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 No.329809

>>329774
>how is this any different from Nazi rhetoric about the USSR circa 1934
a women of color is saying it
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 No.329813

>>329752
She’s gone full schizo poster.
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 No.329815

>>329259
Socialism is when the government
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 No.329816

>>329762
Soon they'll be saying my family escaped getting thrown into the Mediterranean in Palestine.
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 No.329822

>>329762
Antony blinken isnt going far enough, we need to open our borders completely just in case any more refugees need to escape communism in jamaica or cuba or africa or other places like that.
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 No.329873

File: 1624298671050.png (310.63 KB, 679x377, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.329889

>>329762
>invite all the most retarded reactionaries into one country

That won't end well
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 No.329901

>>329889
no, but it will be fun to look at
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 No.329940

Man California is a fucked up place. I was trying to buy this cool little car and some rich enormous dick chad flew in from LA literally almost in the same day to buy it. Trying to buy any moderately sporty car here is weird because literal tech millionaires will go on their lunch break and offer $5000 over asking or wire them an enormous deposit to cockblock everyone else in like 5 minutes.

As a millenial PoC with a generalized anxiety disorder I honestly think I will eventually have to leave because I was (still am basically) part of the underclass here and it feels less and less like home. It's just turning into a playground for rich people.
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 No.329950

>>329940
>Man California is a fucked up place. I was trying to buy this cool little car and some rich enormous dick chad flew in from LA literally almost in the same day to buy it. Trying to buy any moderately sporty car here is weird because literal tech millionaires will go on their lunch break and offer $5000 over asking or wire them an enormous deposit to cockblock everyone else in like 5 minutes.
What car?

>As a millenial PoC with a generalized anxiety disorder I honestly think I will eventually have to leave because I was (still am basically) part of the underclass here and it feels less and less like home. It's just turning into a playground for rich people.

Way ahead of you. It's been like that for awhile. It's only getting worse. Bad news is everywhere is headed in that direction, just California is one of the pioneers.
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 No.329951

>>329762
All the gusanos will eventually merge together into the ultimate United $nakkke$ $ekkkretary of $tat3
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 No.329964

>>329940
move to upstate NY, its chill here
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 No.329965

>>329950
90's Miata. So a piece of shit, but has been memed into insane prices.

Yeah, even before I got into politics I had the intuition that California was a canary in the coalmine for all kinds of fucked up shit. No one believes me though, I told that to some Midwest boomers on Facebook and got laughed out the group because "we'll never ruin ourselves with progressive policies"

lol
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 No.329974

File: 1624301916989.jpg (51.1 KB, 640x407, 1980-alpha-romeo-spider-ve….jpg)

>>329965
>90's Miata. So a piece of shit, but has been memed into insane prices.
A FUCKING 90S MIATA??? I almost talked my parents into getting me a mint condition, upgraded, 80s Alfa Spider for 7k, instead I got a 3k early 90s Miata. Goddamn, I should've held on to that thing. Someone cut through my top and took my radio though. Damn, I remember when cars only decreased in price lol. Why are you going for a roadster? Get a fucking sedan. Frankly if I had to buy a car right now I'd just go for a used Prius or something with similar mileage. Fuck a cool car.

>Yeah, even before I got into politics I had the intuition that California was a canary in the coalmine for all kinds of fucked up shit. No one believes me though, I told that to some Midwest boomers on Facebook and got laughed out the group because "we'll never ruin ourselves with progressive policies"

NIMBYism is California's main problem. Nothing progressive about it. I was listening to NPR this morning and they were just talking about it. Just talking about it of course. Like they do a lot. Like "damn, poor people can't live in California anymore, well… that sucks for them HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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 No.330021

>>329974
>Like "damn, poor people can't live in California anymore, well… that sucks for them HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
MSNBC ran something similar last night. Interviewed people who were getting run out of their homes by gentrification, linked it to Biden's infrastructure plan.
But they stopped short of actually pointing out the cause of all this misery. As always, it just ends on a noncommittal "just something to think about…hmmmmmm…"
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 No.330024

>>329940
Why would you stay in California, lol? Living in California is like choosing to die in a fire because it would be too much work to walk out the door.
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 No.330048

>>330024
I will probably inherit my dads house. He got it on the cheap. He's broke but if I get a decent job I should be able to pay it off. I may move out after that though.

>>329974
I have a big comfy sedan already, I just wanted a cheap to maintain, cheap to insure roadster to get to work since my sedans gearing is so long that driving across town is a huge pain along with crap gas mileage. Unfortunately even shitbox Miatas are now $2000000000000 dollar cars. I've had people tell me they're not even worth buying anymore, they're good but not $10,000 for a clean example good. Sucks because the two cars would have cost me very little to keep going but we can't have nice things anymore lol
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 No.330049

>>329974
Based and soul pilled, the bumper are fucking ugly compared to the older ones though
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 No.330269

I need some input in this, I've been trying to contrast the language and ideas of old Marxists with today's idpol to find exactly where the former sees the latter as contradictory, meaning not abolishing shit and just growing capitalist power
Is basically the problem with idpol is how it
1. Reproduces the democratic revolution which socialists thought was only still progressive in agrarian countries or pseudo-postcolonial ones like Jim Crow America
2. Makes sense of this still being progressive in advanced/ripe conditions by reframing aspects of capitalism as actually privileges akin to feudal and caste ones liberalism and capitalism dissolve as part of their historical progressivism
3. Uses a fishhooking method to falsify revolutionary opposition to liberalism as actually horseshoeing and reactionary, while opportunistically falsifying liberalism in some cases (i.e. equality of law, freedom of speech, etc. as liberties for the powerful) and saving it from the right in others (defending liberties for the powerful because they dissolve the reactionary petty bourgeoisie, r*ral, and the nation-state)
And as a result of these three, it appears as the left wing of neoliberalism, a bourgeois revolution meant to cleanse the roots of the bourgeois revolution (in colonial history for example)
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 No.330275

>>330269
idpol in excess is reactionary and meant to deter from class discussion of issues and differences between classes
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 No.330361

Just finished Fischer's "The life of Lenin". What defeatist socdem garbage. I only did it for the passage on 'self-enslaving self-discipline'.

It would be terribly funny if Fischer were brought b back from the grave and forced to watch the Vietnam War, the War in the Afghanistan and the coming confrontation with China. What a fucking hack.
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 No.330383

File: 1624320310122.jpg (205.16 KB, 750x1108, MV5BYmY4MzY5NDQtZjI5Ni00Nj….jpg)

Are there any good documentaries on the SHITTY American healthcare system?
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 No.330394

CALIFORNIA TO PAY ALL UNPAID RENT

https://www.newsweek.com/california-pay-off-all-past-due-rent-accrued-during-covid-giving-renters-clean-slate-1602556

I hope you Cali anons didn’t pay rent this year. I paid more than I should have, regret not stopping as soon as the ban was in place.

Landleeches getting a 5 billion dollar bailout
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 No.330396

>>330394
T-thanks Comrade Gavin
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 No.330398

>>330394
>we can't afford more government housing projects bros
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 No.330459

File: 1624325126408.png (337.84 KB, 532x618, ClipboardImage.png)

is jasa /ourguy/?
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 No.330468

>>330459
Literally who
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 No.330475

>>330459
Call me when we have Sigma Covid
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 No.330477

>>330459
Based Jasa sticking it to those FAGGOTS at Democracy Now
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 No.330492

>>330394
>inb4 lolberts and leftbert larping revolutionaries hating on this
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 No.330500

It seems like "anti-wokeness" is getting more mainstream popularity. I bet $5 the future of America will having two choices for everything: the rainbow "woke" version and the trad anti-woke one. Like you can buy rainbow colored cereal that asks for your pronouns or cross shaped cereal with a crusader on the box.
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 No.330522

>>330459
Fuck lcokdowns, real revolutionaries don't spend all year in their moms basement because the bourgeoisie state told them to
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 No.330526

>>330500
anti-woke and christtrad aren't the same thing,
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 No.330527

File: 1624328047933.jpg (44.08 KB, 850x400, quote-the-tree-of-liberty-….jpg)

post this quote whenever a reactionary calls you "violent"
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 No.330528

>>330527
It's funny you think they are aware enough or in good faith to see the hypocrisy. Everything is realpolitik the rest is virtue signaling.
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 No.330529

>>326685
They could have all spent their time better inside playing video games.
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 No.330535

>>330531
Ok Matthew Heimbach
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 No.330541

>>330531
NOTICED
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 No.330609

>>330587
The american Indians take is a historically illiterate one, but to be a white nationalist one must be historically illiterate. It was a genocide plain and simple, simply looking at the numbers.
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 No.330637

>>330609
Womp womp
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 No.330659

File: 1624334297839.png (1.28 MB, 1992x1992, NastyPepe.png)

>>330394
>"Sorry Southern Bumpkin what were you saying about California collapsing?" *Chuckles in fifth largest economy on earth*
<"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF YOU CANT EVICT ME FROM MY HOUSE PLEASE BAZED TRUMP BAZED DE-SANTA TED CRUZ SAVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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 No.330783

>>330394
that's pretty damn based. i wonder how many red states will do that, and why is the answer none?
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 No.330797

>Back to the drawing board?
>Biden admin to put forward 580 BILLION DOLLAR Infrastructure plan to Senate. THIS EFFECTIVELY MEANS THAT BIDEN HAS CUT HIS PROPOSED PLANS BUDGET BY 75% SINCE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOT DOWN BY CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS LEAD BY JOE MANCHIN.
HELP HELP I KEEP GETTING CUCKED!!!
t. Biden
<"Joe i wanna meet you on this but…can we get it down to 500?"
t. Manchin
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 No.330800

so the Taliban took some district in Afghanistan and now liberals are whining saying we can't withdraw because of this
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 No.330852

File: 1624344951447.jpg (15.38 KB, 200x200, clownwold.jpg)

>>330797
580 sounds like a lot. what about inflation?
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 No.330933

I'm a bit curious, but how many Americans here were Trump supporters at one time? I got into politics ~2007 and the most right-wing I've ever gone was supporting Obama in 2008 before getting into anarchism and eventually Marxism. So I'm just wondering how the process went from that much of an extreme for others never having experienced it myself.
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 No.330937

>>330933
Most people here are supporters of pro-democracy activist Donald Trump.
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 No.330959

>>330797
<580 billion dollars
>In than years

The Us is gonna collapse so hard lol.
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 No.330962

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 No.331012

>>330933
I voted for Trump in 2016, it was a no brainer vote. You either picked the neoliberal hawk or the national conservative that destabilizes imperialism with the ill fitting nature of nationalism at this point in capitalist history
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 No.331037

There's no way trump doesn't win in 2024 right? All he has to do is run on fixing the economy and stopping bug tech censorship. Dems screwed themselves not going after Facebook. Of theres one thing everyone universally hates its their messages getting censored
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 No.331041

>>331037
Trump 2024 is probably just another grift. Dude's a hundred goddamn years old, his base is dying every day, and he has nothing to show for his presidential track record but millions of dead or immiserated Americans.
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 No.331042

trump could theoretically sit 2024 out and play kingmaker by giving his endorsement, im sure he could make a lot of money from that
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 No.331051

I don't know how people can care about muh sacred hallowed democracy after paying attention to American politics for more than two minutes.
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 No.331169

File: 1624374114677.jpg (37.41 KB, 1112x618, photo_2021-06-22_11-00-10.jpg)

Home prices in the US reach a new record high in May, sharp increase up 24% year-over-year as Fed promises inflation is "transitory," and prices will drop soon.
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 No.331199

Is Opus Dei to liberals what the masons are to right wing schizos? They're getting a two minutes hate over the Biden communion thing.
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 No.331202

>>331042
Yeah, I could see him just endorsing DeSantis or Lindell or whatever fucking freak decides to run, so he can be involved without the responsibility of actually having to run the country.
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 No.331222

>>331169
A C C E L E R A T E
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 No.331224

>>331042
>>331202

Trump will win in 2024. Ron Watkins will be VP
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 No.331225

>>331202
The best thing Trump could do, if he had any sort of long term goals at all, would be to become a hype man on campaign trails for other people. That's where he's at his best.
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 No.331226

>>330394
I always did find the incessant kvetching about how terrible California is to be rather tiresome. I mean it is shit, but what US state isn't? Vermont?
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 No.331232

>>331226
All of America is bad, but northern New England and the Pacific Northwest are less bad than average. In terms of culture Louisiana is obviously a standard deviation above the rest of the country.
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 No.331235

>>331042
>>331225
Liberal copium

Its also the lamest copium. Why not say instead that he will endorse Jeb Bush if you wanted to cope?
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 No.331236

>>331232
Yeah but everyone dickrides the south so hard even when all these super trad dudes who are swole and shit that stupidpol loves to say is "real america" are actually just fat.
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 No.331243

Anyone else lived the neocon-lib-Tankie pipeline?

At first I cheered for the Iraq war as a rule loving child and teachers pet because of "America is good" propaganda. Then the 2008 recession happened along with OWS. I kept on staying away from the rule breaking crowd and I studied high school economics and I disdained protesters and picked law, because I thought "I can change the system from within”. Then the years followed, I dabbled in history and here I am. Whatever concessions are gotten are ”part of the system all along".

Organization is all that matters
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 No.331245

>>331243
I was a disrespectful racist asshole who most people picked on in school. Basically a proto /pol/lack but I got better and actually started excercising and shit.
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 No.331252

>>331169
Now please bring teaser rate mortgages back and we'll have some fun.
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 No.331263

>>331169
you will own NOTHING
and you WILL be happy
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 No.331273

File: 1624378083564.png (2.22 MB, 1920x1080, CitySkylinesFutiristicCity.png)

>Charleston, West-Virginia after Biden complies to all of manchins demands to pass the infrastructure bill
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 No.331282

>>331273
more like one big amazon warehouse and nothing else
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 No.331294

>>331199
They proposed my Gf's dad to join once according to him.
Here in Italy they're economically powerful but politically i don't think they hold that power anymore.
Also talking Vatican shit Opus Dei is not even the biggest player, IMHO IOR and Propaga da Fide are way bigger than them.
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 No.331298

>>331199
Opus-Dei are bizaroo cathbol radcent Anti-Cent post-politics tier who historically have triggered literally everybody.
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 No.331305

File: 1624378970310.png (342.59 KB, 528x404, 1520146680549.png)

>>331298
>Opus-Dei are bizaroo cathbol radcent Anti-Cent post-politics tier
What does ANY of this mean
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 No.331336

>>331243
I was a fundamentalist Mormon grew up in it I'm not that dumb that watched Glen beck all day. Became a sucdem when I became a ex-mormon at 16 with the 2016 Bernie campaign. Like if anyone here was indoctrinated in religious fundamentalism I was probably worse. Any change can occur but it MUST be on the individuals own accord.
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 No.331347

>>331341
Noticed
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 No.331353

>>331243
>Anyone else lived the neocon-lib-Tankie pipeline?
Cringe
I went from trot to based narodnik rightoid populist
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 No.331370

>>331243
I was Neocon->Ron Paul Libertarian->????->Generic Socialist->Tank
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 No.331376

>>330797
Not only that, but one of the primary funding sources is privatization of new and existing infastructure like interstate freeways
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 No.331404

>331402
How do you always manage to have the worst, most heinous takes?
I have never seen a single thing from you that hasn't just been comically misanthropic.
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 No.331479

>>331466
The bottom explanation is worse than what Sesame Street is trying to portray.
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 No.331489

>>331466
stop using twitter
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 No.331497

>>330797
Is this in 10 years?
Pure pottery.
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 No.331503

>>331501
are consevatives against circumsission?
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 No.331506

>>331500
>>331501
Thing
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 No.331509

File: 1624386330167.jpg (633.82 KB, 1920x1080, THING.jpg)

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 No.331512

File: 1624386403367.png (667.69 KB, 951x900, thethingnoticer-therealnad….png)

>>331501
lmao do you expect to find liberals here?
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 No.331514

>>331500
>>331501
Officially noticed
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 No.331523

File: 1624386700942.png (161.49 KB, 667x528, IMG_2512.PNG)

>>331517
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 No.331528

>>331523
SEIZING THE MEMES OF PRODUCTIONS
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 No.331529

>>331519
You must be new here, it's okay I was new here too.
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 No.331534

>>331529
Being new means not taking the bait.
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 No.331537

>>331529
Well, he's right about rethuglicans and democraps, but def, the nadzee believes dems are trying to chop from the base the pee-pee to create trans-humans.
Trans live rent-free in their brain, specially in the thingy noooooticer, who is the one that organize some of the raids in late night from their discord channel, tho I am not sure if their server is up.
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 No.331546

>>331534
Shit you're right I was baited, I guess I'm not as seasoned as I thought I was.
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 No.331552

>>331519
>Also the best part of that tweet is that it assumes the Democrats are as far left as one could possibly glow. Democrats and Republicans are ideologically extremely close. The difference is merely optics.
dems are only left wing if you ignore econmics
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 No.331561

>>330394
Gotta pay the devil his due and say that's pretty good.
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 No.331647

File: 1624391220565.mp4 (3.73 MB, 460x262, 1624391205795.mp4)

Anyone know what this is from?
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 No.331687

>>331647
UN antipropaganda?
I wonder who would be behind it.
What they define "burglar" or what they would consider "not useless". Lmao, I bet they would be happy if the blue helmets invade the DPK or Cuba.
Last time the U.N. went blank check for a "direct action", I remember, Yugoslavia happened.
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 No.331713

File: 1624392916525.jpg (158.16 KB, 960x720, ljyfmo.JPG)

Feds seized Press TV domain.
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 No.331722

If /USAPol/ is good for anything it's keeping TheThingNoticer contained from the rest of the site. Without us, imagine how much bait would be taken. We are heroes, true patriots.
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 No.331770

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 No.331780

File: 1624396178083.png (395.91 KB, 470x419, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.331783

>>329950
>Way ahead of you. It's been like that for awhile. It's only getting worse. Bad news is everywhere is headed in that direction, just California is one of the pioneers.


After a few more years of these wildfires hopefully that'll whittle their numbers down
>Way ahead of you. It's been like that for awhile. It's only getting worse. Bad news is everywhere is headed in that direction, just California is one of the pioneers.
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 No.331847

>>331780
This makes me happy
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 No.331868

File: 1624399760007.gif (1.21 MB, 376x380, joesaywhat.gif)

>>331780
PRESIDENT HARRIS, WFT?
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 No.331877

File: 1624399950951.png (36.25 KB, 840x391, ClipboardImage.png)

wow! haha wow!!
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 No.331889

File: 1624400443896.gif (1.18 MB, 480x270, jojo-hmmmm.gif)

>>331877
MMMMMMMMMM
What could it be their endgame?
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 No.331909

File: 1624401461228.jpg (48.86 KB, 680x850, 183.jpg)

>331906
>the defenders of western civilization are useless PMC fucktards that do nothing but belittle service industry workers
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 No.331937

>>331877
>>331889
Ebrahim Raisi is know for his work in killing of communists in 1988.
>The majority of those killed were supporters of the People's Mujahedin of Iran, although supporters of other leftist factions, including the Fedaian and the Tudeh Party of Iran (Communist Party), were executed as well
>Leftist women—even those raised as practicing Muslims—were given another 'opportunity' to recant their 'apostasy.' "After the investigation, leftist women began to receive five lashes every day – one for each of the five daily prayers missed that day, half the punishment meted out to the men. After a while, many agreed to pray, but some went on hunger strike, refusing even water. One died after 22 days and 550 lashes, and the authorities certified her death as suicide because it was 'she who had made the decision not to pray.'"[33]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_executions_of_Iranian_political_prisoners
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 No.331954

>>331937
No more support for Iran, then?
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 No.331956

america gay
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 No.331964

>>331954
We would have to see.
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 No.331966

>>331965
wrong cancerous general mb
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 No.331967

>>331966
It's alright, trash from one dumpster often looks like trash from another.
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 No.331986

File: 1624406473535.png (85.98 KB, 223x226, E7856C1E-A55C-4017-9CA2-44….png)

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 No.331988

Do we know if it is still the same thingnoticer or is it a new one? How many are there?
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 No.331992

>>331529
>the state is an organ of class rule for the oppression of one class by another
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 No.331998

>>331986
The US military hates socialists, who could have thought?
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 No.332000

>>331988
It's the same one. He's been doing this for forever now.
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 No.332008

File: 1624407489812.webm (2.34 MB, 1280x720, intothetrashyago.webm)

>>331986
>theintercept.com
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 No.332010

>>331986
Noting new. But it is a reminder that the left is woefully unequipped for the future crises in America.
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 No.332011

>>332010
Will we ever be prepared for anything anymore?
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 No.332012

File: 1624407850936.png (166.79 KB, 500x522, bueno-8296603.png)

>>332010
>woefully unequipped for the future crises in America.
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 No.332015

File: 1624407911839.mp4 (2.12 MB, 352x288, Σ I G M A.mp4)

>>332008
patrician choice of webm
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 No.332027

>>332011
Yes and no. No one can be fully prepared for the future, but tying is good. On every continent the left is prepared to fight or organizing in that vein ,not in the US. If people and orgs on the left use their time wisely they can stand a chance. But as it stands no org on the left is ready.
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 No.332056

>>331713
Jason Unruhe BTFO
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 No.332061

>>331986
>>332010
>>332011
>>332012
>>332027
Maybe if you treat us populists more like the revolutionary KMT, you'd have more allies against the imperialist state…
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 No.332071

>>332061
I told you so many times that the KMT was neither revolutionary nor a natural ally to the leftists in China at that time.
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 No.332094

>>332071
>i told you so many times that the KMT was neither revolutionary nor a natural ally to the leftists in China at that time.
I know, I know. I just spread this meme and find it gets surprising reception.
The point is, the communists, whether the comintern or the CPC, never saw the KMT as quite like other reactionaries. The KMT was born from a bourgeois democratic revolution, and while never proceeding to the socialist one like bolsheviks did, the adjacency is there. You can see it in the party's ideology and history.
I think us nationalists in the West should be afforded a similar place. We are not reactionary defenders of the capitalist order, nobody has any loyalty towards the state, corporations, or our foreign policy. We exist on the periphery of imperialism as populists of backwards lands.
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 No.332102

>>332061
What would be the KMT of the US?
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 No.332107

>>332094
>We are not reactionary defenders of the capitalist order
The dominant strain of right-populism, especially in America, is 100% in favour of capitalism, it just doesn't like the way it has developed in the last 40 years or so. The middle class social base of such movements is naturally conservative, and even if it has some antagonisms with the big bourgeoisie it always responds more aggressively to perceived threats from below than from above.
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 No.332128

>>332102
>What would be the KMT of the US?
It'd have to be created from the pieces glossed over by the right's major tendencies, which is what Trump did. The anticapitalism of the youth right, the utter opposition to foreign policy in places like Ukraine and Syria, the disdain for the Christian right and individualism, and identification with saving petty bourgeois relations (families, small towns, etc) rather than becoming a king through imperialism's middle class.
Basically, it'd have to come from people who don't want to conserve old liberalism or return to the religion or empire preceding the enlightenment, but think capitalist modernity is dispossessing and contra MSNBC there's nothing illiberal or reactionary about opposing it.
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 No.332172

>>331305
Their ideology flips on a dime depending on their feefees basically.
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 No.332179

>>331877
As Dotard said, we will be doing so much winning that you will beg us to stop winning so much
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 No.332192

>>332128
So the Bundy and Boogaloo types. They are anti gov, but that's pretty much it. It could work but one would have to imagine how long this alliance would last.
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 No.332265

>>332192
>>332107
Yeah the other posters in the thread are correct, the current American right wing is the same old thing except for a new hate for the "top". They hate the poor the same.
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 No.332270

>>332094
>The KMT was born from a bourgeois democratic revolution, and while never proceeding to the socialist one like bolsheviks did, the adjacency is there. You can see it in the party's ideology and history.
I can see their history of suppressing democracy and the leftists who participated in them.

Even in Taiwan, democracy wasn't established until sometime and it was by dissidents against the KMT.
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 No.332278

File: 1624420913219.jpeg (8.63 KB, 360x189, 3d8s-bpA.jpeg)

Socialist revolution in Buffalo, NY!

"Potential upset in Buffalo: India Walton, a socialist who'd be the city's first female mayor, wins early vote by 14 points.

Would be the largest city with a socialist mayor since Milwaukee had one, more than 60 years ago."
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 No.332286

Trump proposed sending Americans with Covid to Guantánamo Bay
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/21/trump-guantanamo-covid-infected-patients
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 No.332325

>>331954
Still not a moralist movement. "Support" for Russia, China, Iran and other (semi-)reactionary sources of anti-imperialism can end at any time after they actually engage a dominant imperialist power in a war.
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 No.332341

>>332278
any specific party she is aligned with, or variety of socialism?
>>332286
Liberals have been clutching their pearls over Trump for almost 5 years now, and they still talk about the capitol riot every single day and make it out to have been worse than 9/11. When will they stop?
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 No.332369

>>332341
>When will they stop?
i guess they'll stop some years down the road if he doesn't run next time, or does run and loses. though they may just move on to margarine thomas green or rob desantis or tom cottone or whoever steps up as the next literally hitler
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 No.332381

>>332341
>Liberals have been clutching their pearls over Trump for almost 5 years now,
It's actually been six, and it's not even "almost", that's literally how long it has been.
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 No.332386

>>332278
She's a socdem running on the dem ticket.
>Walton, a lifelong Buffalonian, former nurse, and founding executive director of a local land trust, is a socialist. She looks to Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.) as a role model. She says she obsesses over the reports from organizations like the Vera Institute, a nonprofit aimed at tackling mass incarceration, and the Fair Fines + Fees Coalition, a local group of researchers seeking to end exploitative traffic enforcement.

>In her first 100 days, Walton has promised to sign a tenant’s bill of rights that would install a tenant advocate and institute rent control. She wants to remove police from responding to most mental health calls. She plans to declare Buffalo a sanctuary city.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/in-buffalo-new-york-voters-consider-a-socialist-mayor/
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 No.332388

>>332386
i wish that Maoist lady won as mayor of Portland Oregon
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 No.332392

>>332341
The working families party which is essentially just a socdem party.
They even endorsed Warren over Sanders during the last election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Families_Party
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 No.332467

It seems like there's a pending resolution for 2021 DSA convention urging Dsa to join Sao Paulo forum and to align with the wider LatAm left (so PT in 🇧🇷, FSLN in 🇳🇮, MAS in 🇧🇴, Psuv in 🇻🇪).
Opinions on that?
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 No.332471

>>332467
Update: It seems a Dsa delegation went to Venezuela and that libs on Twitter are having a FULL ON MELTDOWN about that.
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 No.332472

File: 1624435705384.png (88.78 KB, 287x179, tyounturks.png)

>>332471
young turks segment denouncing dsa as not real progressives incoming
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 No.332536

Andrew Yang defeated in NY mayoral race. End of UBI dreams for Burgerians and probably rest of the world

Neoliberalism is the natural state of late capitalism.
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 No.332547

>>332467
If DSA is in subjugated position to the LatAm consensus? Great.
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 No.332563

>>332467
What would mean for DSA. As in what advantages would there be?
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 No.332567

>>332563
Getting the slightest respect from people outside the Us maybe.
Also not being fucking insulare and glowing.
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 No.332579

>>332386
Sounds like a shitty radlib
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 No.332682

US Seizes Press TV and Multiple Foreign News Sites
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 No.332728

File: 1624454098520.png (46.39 KB, 755x407, ClipboardImage.png)

Fug
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 No.332729

>>332728
Rekt. There will be no UBI
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 No.332735

>>332728
Who the fuck is the first guy?
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 No.332739

>>332728
How did Adams win so hard but yang lose so badly?

>>332735
Former cop boomer conservative Democrat.
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 No.332740

Eric Adams has won the Democratic primary, and is therefore guaranteed to be mayor of NYC.
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 No.332742

>>332739
Yang got no useful endorsements and ran a campaign pandering to Reddit Americans. He was DOA but had the appearance of being viable because of his onlineness (same thing that made people think Bernie stood a chance last year).
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 No.332743

>>332740
it seems to be a ranked choice thing so you wont know for sure who has won for a while

But Yang cannot win from that. From the first ranking votes listed the first two have a chance at winning
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 No.332745

>>332740
>>332743
hmm actually its possible that the first 3 could win at this point, but the leader adams has the highest chance obviously
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 No.332746

File: 1624455010399-0.png (16.11 KB, 725x279, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1624455010399-1.png (53 KB, 823x617, ClipboardImage.png)

>>332745
Hmm
I wonder which is the worst
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 No.332747

in the unlikely event that Yang got 100% second preferences from everyone, he could win

(Heres how Andrew Yang could still win)
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 No.332749

Wasn't there a much better candidate early on who got a fake MeToo or something?
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 No.332752

File: 1624455442464.png (479.68 KB, 828x465, joe kristol.png)

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 No.332756

>>332467
Good for them. I still do not trust the DSA however.
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 No.332758

>>332386
>he looks to Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.) as a role model.
Shitlib running as a democrat. Uhh, isn't that just the usual?
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 No.332762

File: 1624455796164.jpg (190.56 KB, 1041x1041, nerv.jpg)

>the Arizona Reconsultation Committee (a committee of the Arizona Department of Water Resources) recently projected last month that Lake Mead will hit below 1050 ft by the end of next year, which is low enough to where major drinking water pumping stations & intakes will begin to fail on the reservoir
>90% of Las Vegas and 40% of Phoenix depend entirely on Lake Mead for their water supplies, roughly 25 million people
>the lake is currently at 1069ft
>at 1050ft, Arizona loses 20% of their water, Nevada loses 4%
>at 1025ft, Arizona loses another 17%, models project that there's a 25% chance of this occurring prior to 2025
>at 1000ft Arizona loses everything
>at 875ft Nevada loses everything and the Colorado river below the dam runs dry
Get out ahead of the rush SW anons
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 No.332767

>>332278
Honestly if you caucus with Democrats what makes you a socialist?
inb4 SINO - Socialist in Name Only
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 No.332768

Adams is a vegan and Sliwa is a fanatical cat rescuer, the animals of NYC win this round.
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 No.332780

>>332728
>>332746
What happened here? With BLM and all the shit the cops pulled last year, what made people go for black cop out of the rest?
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 No.332789

>>332780
Both he and Biden pulled the "you aren't really black if you don't vote for me" card, which always works.
I'm a materialist BTW
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 No.332790

>>332780
Because young people no matter what do not vote.
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 No.332826

>>332742
no, it's because he was leading the polls earlier, same as bernie was for a while. i remember those weeks of sheer panic from all the Dem hacks very well.
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 No.333047

>>332826
No one outside of Twitter was actually scared of a Yang run, just accept that he tanked his own chances by being a shit candidate
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 No.333068

>>332386
>Walton has promised to sign a tenant’s bill of rights that would install a tenant advocate and institute rent control
if I lived in Buffalo I would vote for her for that alone, anything to own the landleaches
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 No.333095

>>332471
>>332467
They will be cointelpro'ed.
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 No.333097

Why did Yang run for NYC anyway, everybody knows that job is where careers go to die.
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 No.333109

>>332467
The Communist Party of Cuba is part of the Sao Paulo form, joining the SPF would be pretty based.
>>333097
cause UBI
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 No.333112

File: 1624464098028.png (15.8 KB, 1321x113, Screenshot 2021-06-23 at 1….png)

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 No.333118

Mormons are basically everything that mainstream US protestants pretend they are.
Mormons be fruitful and multiply and have like 15 kids each each of which is somehow a 6.1 minimum Anglo-Saxon gigachad living like Cain and Able on a farmvwhile american prots have below replacement rate kids and are all cheating on each other and coming out as gay
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 No.333120

>>333118
that and Amish
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 No.333132

>>333097
No idea exactly but it was suggested by NYT in their interviews of him in the presidential campaigns

anyhoo UBI will never happen

Neoliberalism will continue for the entire remaining time of capitalism
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 No.333142

File: 1624464626495.jpg (161.7 KB, 1000x1085, E4gYsNAXoAA9AnS.jpg)

Socialists officially categorized as "terrorists" by US Navy

https://theintercept.com/2021/06/22/socialists-counterterrorism-political-terrorists-navy-antifa/

A navy counterterrorism training document obtained exclusively by The Intercept appears to conflate socialists with terrorists and lists the left-wing ideology alongside “neo-nazis.”

A section of the training document subtitled “Study Questions” includes the following: “Anarchists, socialists and neo-nazis represent which terrorist ideological category?”

The correct answer is “political terrorists,” a military source briefed on the training told me. The document, titled “Introduction to Terrorism/Terrorist Operations,” is part of a longer training manual recently disseminated by the Naval Education Training and Command’s Navy Tactical Training Center in conjunction with the Center for Security Forces. The training is designed for masters-at-arms, the Navy’s internal police, the military source said.
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 No.333178

>>333142
>A navy counterterrorism training document obtained exclusively by The Intercept appears to conflate socialists with terrorists and lists the left-wing ideology alongside “neo-nazis.”
But they are doing nothing to stop neo-nazes in Ukraine 🙄
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 No.333333

File: 1624469951769.mp4 (22.94 MB, 576x1024, 69296a94f2fb11f322daedefe3….mp4)

Amazon got caught destroy tons of electronics and high end goods. Got to love Artifical scarcity
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 No.333357

Some religious drama going on right now: a liberal anthropologist visited a rural Orthodox Christian community in West Virginia by claiming to be a friendly outsider interested in their way of life. She stayed with them for some time, but has since been writing about the dangers of rural fascism, how the religion is a home for white nationalists, how Russian Orthodoxy creates "apostates" from Americanism in favor of Russia and finally says that Orthodox churches must begin ordaining women and gay people. In addition, Mike Pompeo has been attacking the Russian Orthodox church recently and thinks it's a security risk. Other neocons seem to have similar thoughts about it.
If this conflict flares up, should we support the people who think the tsar was a saint or the liberal glowies and academics trying to sabotage them because they're afraid of them taking influence outside of their control?
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 No.333362

>>332780
Zoomers don’t vote, idpol is fucking worthless, black boomers are very easily manipulated
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 No.333365

>>333333
digits cheka'd
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 No.333368

>>333142
>A navy counterterrorism training document obtained exclusively by The Intercept appears to conflate socialists with terrorists and lists the left-wing ideology alongside “neo-nazis.”
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 No.333382

>>333333
/leftypol/ got caught wasting digits
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 No.333384

>>333333 (cheka'd)
>>333333 (cheka'd)
If factual than large
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 No.333391

File: 1624472616280.png (489.17 KB, 743x739, 153603405_259385469090929_….png)

>>333333
>wasted digits
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 No.333393

>>333357
A few minutes of investigating this has led me to the bizarrely lucrative world of liberal NGOs that focus on trying to liberalize every religion, including very small ones and even ones that are now extinct. You could probably make an easy six figures if you focus on promoting queer/feminist theory within a small Islamic sect. Is this a state department thing or do rich people fund this because they actually think it's helpful?
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 No.333396

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 No.333426

>>333357
I looked this up and read an article the anthropologist wrote about this right-wing group of Orthodox converts.

>“In terms of politics, how would you describe yourself?” I asked Gwen, a young woman living in the Appalachian Mountains of West Virginia. “I’m a fascist,” she replied. “I’m trad [traditional].” Gwen was one of very few cradle-born Orthodox Christians living in a community of over one hundred American converts to Russian Orthodoxy. From 2017 to 2018, I lived with this group, located in a town of around one thousand. Gwen was a fascist, self-proclaimed, and she worshiped with people who aligned with a variety of political affiliations that might fall under the umbrella of the alt-right: paleoconservative, monarchist, tsarist, far-right, nationalist. While political self-identification varied, believers’ moral rubrics did not. The community praised patriarchy as God-ordained, employing apocalyptic language to decry what they saw as the Marxist LGBTQ+ agenda disrupting traditional Christian family values in America. In their concern for social salvation, they often looked to Vladimir Putin’s illiberal, perhaps even fascist, new Russia as a theo-political guide.


[…]

>In the summer of 2018, I sat in an office at the monastery with a young monk, a former Protestant and convert to Russian Orthodoxy. As he told me about his conversion, his life before monasticism, and why he was devoted to the Russian Church, he insisted that, “only Russia can save the world.” He gave ideological rationales for his comment, including fears of LGBTQ+ acceptance and what he saw as the corrosive culture of individualism corrupting godly America. He believed Putin was the last true statesman and an echo of the last tsar. While many scholars still struggle to understand why Trump’s nationalistic and seemingly fascist plan to make America great again resonated so deeply with social conservatives, I am interested in what motivates other Americans to find political truth in ideologies of authoritarian leadership outside the United States. How might we understand this turn as a new form of American fascism?

https://culanth.org/fieldsights/the-hybridity-of-rural-fascism

You can take issue with the framing of this or believing that what these people believe (the ideology) is the actual truth. Like, these people want Russia to invade America? That's not going to happen. It comes across as like a cargo cult. There is a neo-Orthodox Christian vibe in Russia today, more Russians report being Orthodox Christians now, but the actual church attendance has apparently barely budged since Soviet times. It seems more like a post-USSR fallback identity and it's combined in the official discourse with a cult around World War II and performed at rock concerts on T.V., which isn't exactly the same thing as devoting your life to a monastic order while munching down on lamb legs every Sunday.

Russia doesn't seem all that conservative to me from a big picture point of view. More so than the mainstream liberal culture in the United States, for sure. But by global standards? Moscow and St. Petersburg are probably more socially liberal than Turkey or Azerbaijan. Putin is "an echo of the last tsar." What? That's something that the mainstream liberal media in the U.S. says about him. I think when Putin has been asked about that, he laughs it off.
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 No.333523

JOHN MCAFEE IS DEAD
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 No.333563

>>333531
Motherfucker just straight up ascended from this plane as soon as his corporeal vessel was caught.
Absolute madman.
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 No.333576

The US is the first state with an entirely closed political system, there's literally no avenue of rebellion
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 No.333592

>>333576
Just about.
It will take a massive effort to break past the barriers in place.
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 No.333628

>>333531
JOHN MCAFEE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF
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 No.333652

>>332728
How emba-rice-ing
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 No.333658

>>333592
How can effort even happen when organizing workers here is essentially like herding cats? 50 years of neoliberalism has turned most people into the Homo-Economicus libertarians think people are inherently.
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 No.333665

>>333531
>>333523
lol, rest in piss
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 No.333673

>>333576
Yep, it's a one party state essentially. We must remember that the Democratic and Republican parties were once one single party.
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 No.333689

>>333673
Yeah but even one party states and absolutist monarchies had avenues of resistance, mostly in communities and organizations even if they were banned. Something like half of Americans don't even know their immediate neighbors, they live almost completely isolated, community-less lives. No one can stand up to politics or the economy by themselves.
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 No.333898

File: 1624485370241-0.png (169.05 KB, 749x433, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1624485370241-1.png (677.06 KB, 449x839, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.333928

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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1407809806287704064?s=20

He's calling out people with revolutionary beliefs. What do you think? Is he right in saying this to us?
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 No.333934

Biden sucks
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 No.333937

Did Biden just openly state that the US military would use airstrikes and even nuclear bombings in the event of a revolution against the government?
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 No.333938

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 No.333941

I hope the next conservative SCOTUS is a black female traditionalist Catholic who hates affirmative action just so we can see the million degree takes.
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 No.333942

File: 1624486406319.png (688.98 KB, 1080x1237, 78511607-F062-47C9-9F07-AC….png)

So Biden just openly admitted that if the American people revolted against the government the Feds are prepared to go as far as nuking us
So yea, the US government would nuke its own citizens, now we know
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 No.333947

>>333942
A general strike would collapse the US instantly
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 No.333955

>>333942
The US military is fat and demoralized, they would fold without much of a struggle.
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 No.333957

>>333947
a general strike will also never happen
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 No.333964

Is there any real possibility of religious taxation under Biden? The freakout about conservative Catholic bishops refusing pro-choicers communion/threatening excommunication and the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia paranoia makes it seem more plausible than before.
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 No.333965

>>333112

Well I hate him less now ngl

I fucking despise transplants. They're so lame
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 No.333969

>>333942
he's just stating common knowledge
>>333955
no
>>333964
no
>>333957
yes
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 No.334016

>>332107
>The dominant strain of right-populism, especially in America, is 100% in favour of capitalism, it just doesn't like the way it has developed in the last 40 years or so.
That's because they've been told the reason the national system of capitalism and the space for the small it permits is eroding because of the contradictions and distortions created by government intervention, not capital.
They cannot be made into Marxists, but they can be made into what Marx called 'petty bourgeois socialism'
The point of reforming the right here would be to make it point to the contradiction between capitalism and democracy and suggest that is what is dissolving traditional liberties and folk relations. Otherwise, it reproduces their shared growth (a fact which helps retard the American left) as it has been doing by trying to conserve an older form of capitalism.
By detaching nationalism from imperialism reattaching it to the democratic revolution, which the KMT, the liberals extoll today, and the MLs carried out, we can erode the connection between the logic of capital and the logic of democracy which keeps neoliberalism in, the right down, and the left out.
I think tat connection is the basis for western unipolarity, and increasingly the left and right as well nonwestern countries are not satisfied by it.
>The middle class social base of such movements is naturally conservative, and even if it has some antagonisms with the big bourgeoisie it always responds more aggressively to perceived threats from below than from above.
I think this is because of the plight of the bottom is often used to appeal to the inability of society to self-regulate, and so we all need to give up power to something that can, which is inherently big bourgeois. I'm not really interested in the middle class, which is trending liberal anyway.
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 No.334116

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 No.334123

>>334116
Shit is pretty fucked, we're going to start seeing climate collapse effect first world countries on a level that's going to be felt by the majority of the populous by next year. I've become pretty doomer pilled, I think our future is going to look like a combination of Metal gear solid 4 and children of men.
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 No.334128

File: 1624491711754.gif (3.42 MB, 406x202, omegalul.gif)

>>334116
>misspelling locusts
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 No.334144

>>334123
>I've become pretty doomer pilled, I think our future is going to look like a combination of Metal gear solid 4 and children of men.
Don't doomer leftybro, the future is in left and right populism
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 No.334151

>>334144
Right populism only gave us Trump and Bolsenero. Who only really serve to piss off intellectuals and not anybody else of any actual importance. They have bolstered capital elsewhere especially the likes of Fast Food companies, Car Businesses and other sorts who actively choke out the American people.
If you're talking about "Social conservatism" then I don't really care. I don't like them that much and think that they are frankly pretentious but I do like their ideology of toughness and grit (even if it feels performative with my experiences with them) so whatever.
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 No.334167

>>334144
Actually, red or dead.
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 No.334170

>>334151
I dont think trump was ever the beginning or the end of this
>>334167
>Actually, red or dead
I said left populism
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 No.334172

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 No.334179

File: 1624494238998.jpg (11.75 KB, 238x276, DYreLa8WkAA8MOo.jpg)

WHAT?! The government would use its military arsenal against an insurrection?!?! Can they do that?!?!?!
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 No.334254

File: 1624496519611.jpg (983.49 KB, 2409x3011, a28ne5gu.JPG)

“I’ve read Mao Zedong. I’ve read Karl Marx. I’ve read Lenin.“
— Gen. Mark A. Milley
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 No.334259

>>334144
What's the right populist program to mitigate the climate crisis? Not trying to be smug or patronizing, actually curious about how a right winger might handle the issue assuming they think it's a problem.
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 No.334273

>>333928
This is for those with guns
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 No.334277

>>333947
>>333957
You guys overestimate the power on a general strike when many critical infrastructures are in government hands, where the real "patriots" work.
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 No.334279

>>334254
He wrote a senior thesis on the 1980 Iraq war and I would love if someone could find it
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 No.334282

>>334277
Porkies are already squealing right now because some people are just getting unemployment benefits instead of waging
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 No.334285

>>333942
This makes me want to water the tree of liberty.
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 No.334286

They targeted gamers. Gamers. They targeted gamers.
Gamers. They targeted gamers.Gamers
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 No.334288

>>334286
GANG WEED GENTLEMEN SIGMA MALE GAMERS
RISE
UP
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 No.334289

>>333964
Okay we need to rile up 4/pol/ tradcaths and get all of the USA excommunicated from Rome. Neo-Schism Time!
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 No.334290

>>334282
That's them, the other part is the government. The porkies would ask bail outs.
I am not saying it wouldn't fuck the porkies, but destabilize the U.S. government? I mean, I don-t like to be negative however I have never seen a color revolution working with a general strike because almost no government lives with 0 de-facto nationalized structures, even in the land of Laissez-faire capitalism.
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 No.334292

>>334286
>>334288
LOGGING IN TO OVERTHROW THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
What happened now?
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 No.334443

>>334116
haha a plague of locusts. the evangelicals getting their biblical doomsday
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 No.334446

>>333531
John Mcafee was murdered by the cabal!
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 No.334454

>>333142
reminder in Burgeria, soc-dems are considered socialist.

You will never get M4A
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 No.334465

File: 1624503717355.jpg (69.78 KB, 500x613, EsMzufnXAAE8b8S.jpg)

>>334289
>Okay we need to rile up 4/pol/ tradcaths and get all of the USA excommunicated from Rome. Neo-Schism Time!
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 No.334466

>>334454
We won't get anything, Porky will take EVERYTHING from us.
And then we'll all die.
The end.
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 No.334469

>>333142
>theintercept
Got a real source?
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 No.334474

File: 1624503962451.jpg (615.01 KB, 2816x2112, peron_offers_daboof.jpg)

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 No.334477

>>334254
I listened to a talk he gave for a think tank several years ago, and it's usually a boring affair only listened to by other "natsec" people and lunatics like myself, and he went on for awhile about how Gen. Creighton Abrams devolved a lot of the Army's responsibilities to the National Guard after Vietnam because he wanted to create a "people's army" inspired by Ho Chi Minh.
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 No.334480

>>333928
>>333942
by this logic America as a sovereign nation should not exist, it should be a provenience of Britian.
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 No.334489

>>334466
Neoliberalism will last for the entire remainder of capitalism's existence

There is no electoralist compromise with capital

There will be no M4A, no UBI

The only way out of this is to overthrow capitalism entirely
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 No.334496

>>334480
Based, Britbong should invade Burgeria again
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 No.334499

File: 1624504284452.jpg (428.33 KB, 1437x1600, Guerre invisible.jpg)

>>334477
>he went on for awhile about how Gen. Creighton Abrams devolved a lot of the Army's responsibilities to the National Guard after Vietnam because he wanted to create a "people's army" inspired by Ho Chi Minh.
Similiar to the French counter-insurgent strategy called "Guerre revolutionare" then. Makes sense, as both the national guard and DHS are legally paramillitaries beholden to only the president.
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 No.334511

>>333942
>The founding fathers gave us the second amendment to resist tyranny
<you cannot resist us; we are all knowing, omnipresent, and most of all, we are invincible
ok
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 No.334517

>>333928
Interesting, its like that failed TV show Jericho coming true
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 No.334599

File: 1624507327101.mp4 (1.07 MB, 480x270, WuCzk7utV_wuymY7.mp4)

DSAer just got elected mayor of Buffalo
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 No.334603

>>334599
When more get elected to local offices, it's all gonna get shut down.
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 No.334611

>>334599
>do you consider yourself a socialist
>… Oh? Absolutely… Heh.
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 No.334615

File: 1624507960341.mp4 (506.24 KB, 480x270, od6Ce5DMbITUA_Jw.mp4)

We need a government of action to fight for working families.
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 No.334655

>>333941
libs just pretend like clarence thomas doesn't exist
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 No.334661

a democrat beat another democrat in a democrat primary. *yawn*
she'll be just as effective in helping the working class as any other democrat, that is to say, not at all.

what's needed is a real, physical revolution. not the political masturbation called voting.
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 No.334697

>>334661
Sub-Zero is right. Fuck the D$A and any and all electoral cretins.
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 No.334700

>>334603
What do you even mean by "shut down"? How are you gonna shut down local governments?

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