>>495568>I guess you can't be a meanie if you are meanie with your own people.
But it doesn't work, because Bolton was fired. Then Trump pretended it was because Bolton wasn't enough
of a neocon.
The wealthy fobs are basically Karens on Steroids. The undocumented/oddballs are more or less urban or rural village poorfags who’re more similar to the people who work service jobs than otherwise. I know a lot of indian doctors who’re really good folks, though.
>>495571>because Bolton was fired
But not for being incompetent, but he was too honest. NK fiasco admitting publicly they wanted the Libya solution wasn't a smart move. Guess he thought the right was on his best moment and no one could stop them.
Trump was an idiot. An impulsive one at that, but not a warmonger.
I differ, the say "tell me with who you are and I will tell you who you are" is very self-explanatory. Figures like Pompeo, Bolton, Spence. Also, sanctions are a form of war under UN laws, too, sooooo. Also, remember that Trump spent more bombs in 4 years than Obama in 8 years.
Also, Trump designed with his aides the term "all options are on the table" whenever the Venezuela topic arrived on journalism. Implying that even war is on the horizon whenever the policy is brought. That's warmongering in the very definition of the dictionary: Doing the policy of negotiating under our rules or get war'd.
People forget but Trump's "Isolationism" is just wanting every country to effeminately cowtow and render unto Ceasar without us doing anything in return. Was never going to work
>>495580>>495590>but he dropped bombs!
It's what the US does.>but the neocon advisors!
All either hate him, openly discussed removing him, quit, or fired.>but he said words!
He's a politician.
What's with the cope?
I find illusory people in here pretending turmp wasn't a warmonger because he didn't start any new war. Like, is that how low the bar has been set? Luckily enough here at least don't divert the failure of his campaign in 2020 as an "outsider", once successful in 2016, to a "steal" from the demorats.
lol, fake tankie, disguised poltard.>>495603>All either hate him, openly discussed removing him, quit, or fired.
Yeah, no. Pompeo and Pence stayed with him, so no.>>495603>He's a politician.
A warmonger politician. >cope
You need to go back.
Trump was widely seen as withdrawing from the world and leaving regional conflicts to the leadership of allies, while also rejecting multilateralism and favoring deals with dictators. His America first foreign policy was tarred as isolationist and unilateral by both liberals and conservatives. Biden's America is back foreign policy was built on reversing all of this. You are an idiot.
To neocons, Trump represented their paleocon antagonist. To liberals, Trump abandoned liberal interventionism.
I am not familiar with Barry Grey on WSWS. Generally I am used to the analyses written by Patrick Martin. I remember reading countless articles on WSWS about the CIA Democrats, that being Democratic candidates that were alumni of the CIA. This article, however, leaves me with many questions, some of them being probably stupid questions, and some less so.
First and foremost: how often are U.S. generals supposed to talk to Chinese generals? The instances of Gen. Mark Milley twice reassuring Gen. Li Zuocheng that the U.S. isn't about to attack China, strikes me as odd. Surely this is the role of diplomats, right? I might be totally wrong on this because I have no idea about this.
Second, does anyone seriously buy this story supported only by General Mark Milley and literal glowie CIA director Gina Haspel? I don't know about Mark Milley but the so-called "intelligence community" is notorious for lying. Are they really to be trusted? Even WSWS knows the CIA isn't to be trusted, having gone to great lengths to write about the CIA democrats running for congress.
Third, is Pelosi actually as incompetent as WSWS implies?>The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the US Capitol, whose members were chosen by Pelosi, has held only one public hearing, at which no government officials were called to testify. Its lethargy is palpable. If one goes onto its website and clicks on “committee activity,” one sees “There are no upcoming hearings.”
Fourth, should we see the upcoming "Justice for J6" as anything but larping? Are we really to believe there's going to be another putsch? The first one was less a tragedy and more a farce. I welcome the possibility of further destabilization, to be clear, but I doubt that this event could be a meaningful vehicle for the far-right acquiring power, since the first time around they clearly had no plan, and would not have attained power even if they had taken the Capitol building.
>>495604>>495607>is that how low the bar has been set?
Yes? Hello? Are you actually braindead? Or were you born after the Patriot Act, where US claimed it would bomb anyone, anywhere they fucking wanted?
>>495603>this is the power of Tulcel intellect
Socialism with American Characteristics soon!
And to me he got my grandfather and a million other americans killed so idgaf about forign policy at the end anyway, My life was made worse by the duy
>>495611> seen as withdrawing from the world and leaving regional conflicts to the leadership of allies
Lmao, when he said this? He always claimed he wants a better greater U.S. army. Like, for what else would you like a better, stronger army if it already is used to attack other countries? And that's was something he said, not an analysis of some polturd defending trump with stretched and moved goalpost arguments.>>495611
>Biden's America is back foreign policy was built on reversing all of this
Except he complied with the Afghan withdrawal. So don't praise Trump by lying by the omission of stuff Biden hasn't stop that by the way came from Obama's first term when he tried to pull out from there
.>>495611>To liberals, Trump abandoned liberal interventionism.
Yeah, the thousands of sanctions abroad is non-intervention policies 😂🤣 these poltards pretend to be smart, they are not.>>495613>not using the patriot act=/=not warmonger
Get some diamat.
>>495442NOOOOOOO TRUMPERINO WASN'T A WARMONGERINOOOO NOOOOOO
Refrain from using words you don't understand.
Trump actually ended aid to Syrian rebels (like the retard he is), and refused to put up a no fly zone. Then there was the whole fiasco with Guaido. Then Fission Mailed in Bolivia.
Do you have bad memory?
Well, the ball is rolling. Trump would have to prove these are inaccurate, wrong, or lies. Will he move? can he, like the "steal" thingy, prevail as the truth holder?
Or will he play the smug face derangement syndrome card?
By the stupid extension you said, poltard, George H. Bush wasn't a warmonger, Nixon wasn't a warmonger, Reagan wasn't a warmonger, Truman wasn't a warmonger. Because you know "they, as trump didn't use the patriot act" because it didn't exist for their time
So come here again and explain to me "how to use words I don't understand" lmao. Brazen stupidity from this polturd.
Larp, but at worst a few people will die and the perps get their boypussies popped by the state. Either way, theater
Okay, your ability to argue is deteriorating.>>495633>>495612
The entire situation can be blown open by a single Chen Weihua tweet. That'd be nice.>>495639
Doubtful anything will come out of it.
>>495620>And to me he got my grandfather and a million other americans killed so idgaf about forign policy at the end anyway, My life was made worse by the duy
What exactly would Biden or Hillary have done different? Cuomo sued Trump over quaruntine restrictions at the same time the libs were making him their saint defender.https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/28/ny-gov-cuomo-says-trump-has-no-authority-to-impose-quarantine.html
Rightoid cuck mentality when it comes to cops is great, epsecially how every once in a blue moon they get in trouble with the law and immediately go "WTF BROS WERE ON YOUR SIDE!!11" before crawling back to daddy blue lives a week later
>>495647>What exactly would Biden or Hillary have done different?
Probably similar shit but they weren't in charge so they are irrelevant to the discussion
>>495645>Okay, your ability to argue is deteriorating.
Sure m8, whatever helps you sleep at night with your beloved cheeto man.
I guess you play in your home full volume the Lincoln Project ad where they say trump is the "tovarishch". As this anon said: >>495619
. Surely trump will wring socialism by the end of 2028.
I thought it was the other way around. Feeding Christians pagan values.
That video gets me every time. "Look, we Japanese people don't hate foreigners. We just think they are fat and stinky. They also can't shut their fucking mouth on the train, can't speak our language, make us embarrassed for not speaking their language and make us scared by being foreign and this is why we try to avoid them on public transport and segregate public spaces, but you know it's nothing personal."
You're either retarded or didn't follow how the GOP and Democrat establishment reacted to Trump. Trump was not antiwar, he also didn't fit into our foreign policy divisions. He represented regression to both sides in those divisions.
>>495652>Probably similar shit but they weren't in charge so they are irrelevant to the discussion
But Trump wasn't in charge, Biden's not in charge. They don't have the power to protect America from Covid. This superpower president delusion keeps Americans from acknowledging their country is shit from top to bottom and changing the figurehead doesn't affect that at all.
Early christianity took many ideas from neo platonists>Pagans tended to see the natural world as divine and the human form as the highest form, or something to that effect. Christians tended to see the material world as base and sinful, with divinity coming from an entirely separate sphere of existence
That statements is entirely wrong early christians tried to find a balance between the mani/neoplatonist inspired gnostic and the druid/humanist inspired pelagisians(both being against organize church and the whole proto feudal roman system ,the idea of devine beings with wings came from Persia like the idea of yours that the world is sinful.
btw that pic is an ophanim ,a type of angel but not all angels look like that ,the main angels(aka the ones with names) are described as humans
I always wondered if old religious dudes were smoking DMT, because that angel really looks like what people describe when they see DMT entities. Either DMT blasts you on to the astral plane or literally every religion stems from people cooking their shit with drugs
The universe is the first and only testament. All books contained therein are included. The contradictions are features not bugs as they both ad to the drama and demonstrate with certainty the conclusions QED. The universe is material and the progress of the dialectic is real. The humans just discovered this point of the grand plot, and now they're testing their understanding.
The idea of the wheel things came from a vision they were later declared angels in some apocryphal texts ,funny since the idea of god having a throne gurded by monsters sounds preety pagan
>>495349>Is Das Kapital the Third Testament?
Hey ameretards plz explain to me what happened with the general,why he bacame a moist all of the sudden, i just know he said he had no problem with crt
Barack Obama unleashes “kinetic strikes” on Libya, Hillary Clinton lobbies for “limited military coercion” in Syria, Congress passes “robust sanctions” on Iran, and Trump gives “US general’s more room to run” as he “ramps up” “pressure” on ISIS.
The Center for American Progress calls for “no fly zones” to “protect civilians.” It’s important the US “engage” in the Middle East as it “reasserts itself” on “the world stage” and backs it up with “diplomacy” and “military muscle”. While Russia expands its naval fleet the US merely “modernizes” it. “All options are on the table” when discussing Venezuela and Iran.
So much of how we discuss U.S. militarism and imperialism is laundered through these seemingly anodyne phrases, rhetorical thingamajigs that vaguely gesture towards an idea without conjuring the unseemly images of what’s really being called for.
Dropping exploding shrapnel from 5,000 miles away designed to rip through human flesh is called quote unquote, “targeted airstrikes,” starving and cutting off medicine for an entire civilian population to pressure the government to act in the US’s best interests is quote unquote “sanctions” which are said to be a quote unquote “alternative to war.”
Routine harm dished out by US and its allies is sanitized using this Foreign Policy-speak: seemingly neutral jargon that’s deliberately designed to dampen the negative rhetorical impact of what would otherwise be viewed as the destructive acts of an arbitrary and violent empire. Indeed, even the term “foreign policy” itself — as opposed to what’s more correctly defined as the management and expansion of US empire — frames the United States’ relationship to the other 95 percent of the world as passive, benign and morally neutral.
Today we examine what’s being said, and what’s being left out when we use “foreign policy-speak”, how writers can avoid these lazy euphemisms, and instead make a concerted effort to objectively describe the policy being advocated for rather than relying on well worn thought-terminating cliches that are designed to do all of our thinking for us.https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-70-laundering-imperial-violence-through-anodyne-foreign-policy-speak-part-i
Lower drug prices defeated by centrist filthhttps://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/572447-democrats-suffer-blow-on-drug-pricing-as-3-moderates-buck-party
I want another january sixth. I want em to get to congress next time
>>495612>Third, is Pelosi actually as incompetent as WSWS implies?
I think a lot of senators and mayors/governers are useful idiot true believers for the deep state. The spectacle was probably engineered specifically to trigger that kind of response in her and likeminded people. Its easier to pass it off if the reactions are genuine and liberals are exactly that retarded
conservatives think if you read communist books that the mind virus takes over your brain so they are virtue signalling about how they would never read a book and the general must have been compromised
Some of America's greatest military men have been leftists. Even in the most hardcore rightoid branch, the USMC, spawned guys like Smedley Butler and Evan Carlson. Carlson got sent to China as an observer, got in with some communist Chinese troops of the Eighth Route Army and brought the fireteam concept back to the US. Pretty based.
>Carlson explained in a 1943 interview: "I was trying to build up the same sort of working spirit I had seen in China where all the soldiers dedicated themselves to one idea and worked together to put that idea over. I told the boys about it again and again. I told them of the motto of the Chinese Cooperatives, Gung Ho. It means Work Together — Work in Harmony."
Yeah, I know. All those euphemisms for war, killing innocent people… that's the hate the U.S. system had with the cheeto man. The cheeto man was careless enough to bypass the learning process of these words and was more "honest" than the rest, but he was a warmonger, well-earned, meritorious, and he was proud of it.
I can't but only see those in here denying the warmonger nature of trump like polacks flocking in here, or "leftists" getting too into pol debates which slowly re-shapes their worldview.
Woos Woos is kinda retarded. Also, I have exposed them as sectarians trotskytes in the past smearing union members.
Yeah and these days you're more likely to find white nationalist pamphlets on base. The Chris Dorners of America are the exception, Eddie Gallagher is the new fucking normal.
, faggot. And fuck US union leadership.
No, it was a candidate for union leadership. I didn't save the blog link in my bookmark collection, so can't say exactly where the union was. But the worker was smeared, got fired, and the pro-socialist union lost the race.
I mean I never saw that shit and I was in the military
historically this isn't uncommon. oracle of delphi and all that
During last years unrest and election we were joking on /leftypol/ that he would be the leader of some sort of National Salvation-style government should push come to shove. Since then, we have found out that it was more than just a meme, because apparently he and the military leadership were seriously concerned about the possibility of Trump going “rogue”, and about the possibility of a coup in Trump’s final days. Certain Defense Department officials had been suddenly replaced by Trump loyalists, and then there was the delay to deploy the military to restore order during the events of January 6. Some senior political figures had also apparently expressed to Milley that they were all counting on him to do “his duty”.
Then, during the outcry about CRT a few months ago, Milley made some comments before a congressional committee which drew ire from the right, including defending the military’s study of CRT as you noted. He basically said that the military needed to understand phenomena to be able to respond to them appropriately. That is really the
moment Milley first found himself in the crosshairs of the right. His comments also included this amusing and exploitable bit:>“I’ve read Mao Zedong. I’ve read Karl Marx. I’ve read Lenin.”
Finally, today it was revealed that Milley, in his role as chairman of the Joint Chiefs, had secretly called his Chinese counterparts last October to assure them that the U.S. would not attack preemptively despite increasingly hostile rhetoric on Trump’s part. It was also revealed that he had called them a second time shortly after the events of January 6 to assure them that the U.S. government was “stable”, and that there was no immediate threat to China.
>>495850>No, I'm sure there are backroom deals going on to let this die in exchange for some concession or another.
Do you think Pelosi's family hedged their bets?
Also, that is a fascinating infographic.
What am I looking at?
to be fair, why wouldn't he be smug?
>>495876>It has been confirmed that the US has removed its most advanced missile defense system and Patriot batteries from Saudi Arabia in recent weeks.
What?>Biden’s push to open up the 9/11 files in the coming weeks, the first batch having already been published, has only added to Saudi discontent.
What?!>US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, who is on a tour of the Gulf, stated that he has indefinitely postponed his visit to Saudi Arabia.
What the fuck am I reading?
I understand that US might be stretched thin from the wars it is involved in to the wars it wants
to be involved in, and that Houthi SCUD got Saudi's cock, but what the fuck are they doing?
First it was failed WW3 with Russia turning into bitching at Turkey for Armenian genocide, now US is giving cold shoulder to the keeper of the petrodollar?
>>495896>now US is giving cold shoulder to the keeper of the petrodollar?
Saudis don't have the same power they did in the 70s, the US with fracking can provide it's own energy
China is closing in to SA. That's the game-changer.
Mark my words, the petrodollar gonna die.
Haven't fracking companies been failing to make much profit recently? I remember the stocks for oil crashing from it for a while before it got memory holed.
No, fracking is not profitable. What is driven these impasses is probably China's rising in the ME.
correct, fracking needs high oil prices and wells run dry quicker than expected
shitty source but still posting
fracking profitability depends on OPEC countries throttling output to keep prices up. i'm sure this plus the russia/saudi arabia oil price spat at the start of the pandemic ties into some bigger picture but i'm too smoothbrained to piece it all together
it is kinda strange behavior. do they think the saudis are weak right now? have to just take it because they'll get immediately btfo by iran and russia if the US drops them?
saudis have been lashing out and losing recently (syria, yemen, etc), so maybe the US thinks they're in no position to argue.
what is that going to do to the American economy?
day of the rope for Saudis soon bros????
Critical support for Beijing Biden.
the Yemen war is the conflict that has seen the most use of ballistic missiles without air defenses every one of them would have been a hit
When Biden became /ourguys/. Critical support!
>>495850>No, I'm sure there are backroom deals
Do you think the FBI told them about 1/6 and the parts they would play before hand? Do you think they weren't in real danger? Or do you think the FBI didn't tell them to give them a real spooking?
What about 9/11? Do you think congress knew and is complicit or do you think their decisions were based on real fear even if retarded?
During Trump's Lame Duck period after 1/6 Mark Milley issued an order to the Pentagon stating that no order from Trump was to be carried out unless it had his consent. He used this power to veto a plan by Trump to withdraw from Afghanistan (basically what Biden just did, congrats Mark, you extended the forever way by a few months) after 1/6 their was fear in China and NATO countries that Trump would order a nuclear strike (Trump never ordered such a strike) but that's the justification. Thier is a lot of confusion to the events, Kyle Kulinski of all people surprising enough had a good breakdown of the events which I will like here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezuBbxborS4
Then a few mounts later Mark Milley stated that he had read CRT as well as Mao and Lenin and that reading a book doesn't make you a believer in said book, he also denounced Mao and Lenin later on in this speech but the right called him a crypto-communist he isn't one in case you were wondering.
>>495748>Today we examine what’s being said, and what’s being left out when we use “foreign policy-speak”, how writers can avoid these lazy euphemisms, and instead make a concerted effort to objectively describe the policy being advocated for rather than relying on well worn thought-terminating cliches that are designed to do all of our thinking for us.
fuck off shill >>495777>I can't but only see those in here denying the warmonger nature of trump like polacks flocking in here, or "leftists" getting too into pol debates which slowly re-shapes their worldview.
I think its more of a subconscious desire for honesty, people subconsciously like honesty and hate lies regardless of context. People prefer Trump being Emperor instead of Biden because Trump is honest about ruling an Empire and Biden lies and tells people that we are living in a democratic republic.
Hopefully Biden does a "Great Purge" against the Deep State and sends all the spooks and rich tax frauds to gitmo.
So what do Milley and the Deep State do when Trump wins in 2024? I mean if Milley doesn't try a National Salvation Council then Trump will purge him.
That's effectively on the level of trying to make a perpetual motion engine in finance.
they helped put him in office
Pretty sure it'd be on a Need-To-Know basis and most of Congress doesn't need to know
It would put the U.S. into a third-world tier economy. No manufacturing processes, no state-of-the-art technology, half of Ph.D. dissertations yearly are "how porn affects my pussay smell" or stuff like that… very clown years to come to the U.S.
>>496015>So what do Milley and the Deep State do when Trump wins in 2024? I mean if Milley doesn't try a National Salvation Council then Trump will purge him.
the question is would trump in this situation use militias to try to stop the coup?
>>496039>half of Ph.D. dissertations yearly are "how porn affects my pussay smell" or stuff like that
It's already like that
it’s literally already like this
Yeah, without the imperial power of the USD currency, the U.S. will succumb. I still don't know how wild the population will become when they open their eyes and find themselves in the poodle of the international community while others superpowers swim in the giant pool with superiority.
Something very similar happened to Spain. People like de Quevedo, deemed by himself as a nationalist and the embodiment of the superior Spaniard, thought that the only profession a Spaniard could be proud of was the career of arms, which is exactly the same the U.S. does when patronizes the U.S. military professions. Everything else was racist in Spain, blame the iron forger, blamed the innkeeper, blamed on other professions, exactly like the U.S. boomers are doing over the workers asking for a livable wage, and Spaniards paid others to do the shitty job (Spaniards paid with the gold they stole from Latinamerica to French farmers so they would grow the crops), exactly like the U.S. do with the Mexicans that go the farming sites in the U.S. All of that, in Spain, ended in the Spanish civil war.
I hope so since I am balls deep in her.
Leave the old man alone! Can't you see that he's almost a vegetable?
This is… Dare I say it… Aukward
dyatlov from chernobyl lookin ass
How big is the leaf navy?
America is to Canada as UK is to Wales and Scotland.
>>495612>First and foremost: how often are U.S. generals supposed to talk to Chinese generals? The instances of Gen. Mark Milley twice reassuring Gen. Li Zuocheng that the U.S. isn't about to attack China, strikes me as odd. Surely this is the role of diplomats, right? I might be totally wrong on this because I have no idea about this.
They actually signed an agreement to start doing this in 2017 to "reduce the chances of miscalculations." See this:https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/1278684/us-chinese-military-leaders-sign-agreement-to-increase-communication/
That was when then-CJCS Joe Dunford visited China. They probably just had a video conference on Zoom. Militaries also have diplomatic functions, it's not either/or, and embassies will have defense attaches for this purpose.
It's funny, they had their first meeting for this working group in October 2020:https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2398907/us-department-of-defense-hosts-first-crisis-communications-working-group-with-t/
It's like "oh hello" and then they read statements to reach statements to each other about why it's important to establish mechanisms for timely communication during a crisis blah blah blah. Then three months, Milley calls them up again "okay we're not going to attack you, everything is under control here, everything is fine, how are you?" as a laser battle happens in the background like Star Wars.
Can someone explain to me what this "10 Days of Darkness" shit is that Qfags keep talking about?
A sort of "Triple Alliance," if you will
donald trump is going to die in ten days. tomorrow it will be the nine days of darkness.
Where are all the Qfags congregating now? 8kun?
I don't know, I've just heard it mentioned by my mom and a Trumpite coworker
An electricity, internet, and social media outage signaling the end of the world.
>>496259>my mom and a Trumpite coworker
my condolences, comrade
Stay unvaxxed anon. Glow more.
>>496262>internet, and social media outage
this wouldn't be a bad thing desu
Hitler totally made it out of Berlin didn't he?
Some elements on the right have dismissed it as a psyop, and the authorities have been preparing for some time now, having fortified the Capitol grounds. I think it will not go beyond some skirmishing between the protesters and counter-protesters at best.
The center's turning left.
The right is seething red.
Is this my discount heaven?
Cancel all student debt.
Can't think of a rhyme for EVERY NABISCO FACTORY IN AMERICA IS ON STRIKE!
And there is now proposed a $10k bounty for anyone who causes a baby heart beat, consensual or not, in Illinois.
That Texas Brownshirt law is gone, gone, gone.https://www.nprillinois.org/statehouse/2021-09-14/democrat-sponsored-texas-act-would-allow-10k-bounties-on-sexual-abusers-those-who-cause-unwanted-pregnancies
Seeing leftoids cope about based guy biden is as fun as seeing rightoids cope about based guy zion don whenever he does some retarded shit. The accelerationist cope is just the cherry on top.
Don't forget to sign your posts with "praise kek", fucking lmao.
The United State's largest export is Nuclear Reactor boilers. We're gonna fission our way out of climate change so we can keep 'beautiful clean coal' until Joe Manchin's graduating class dies or the Outback glows like Chernobyl. China needs Australian minerals to run the world's factory and the U.S. will try to hold it hostage by strapping Uranium to it. Don't buy any properties in Australia unless they're lead lined.https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/exports-by-categoryhttps://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Import/Partner/by-country/Product/25-26_Minerals
The more i see of Twitter the more I'm convinced it's causing fucking brain damage to people
>Behind the scenes: In mid-October 2020, top Pentagon officials grew concerned about intelligence they'd seen. It showed the Chinese were consuming their own intelligence that had made them concerned about the possibility of a surprise U.S. strike against China, three sources familiar with the situation tell Axios.
>One of the sources said: "I think they [the Chinese] were getting bad intelligence… a combination of 'wag the dog' conspiracy thinking and bad intel from bad sources." Then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper worried the Chinese were misreading the situation and that their misperception could lead to a conflict nobody wanted.https://www.axios.com/mark-milley-woodward-trump-crisis-bb8a80b1-3e3a-492b-934a-99825cc6ef7f.html
Also in October 2020, an article under a cover name used by China's Ministry of State Security came near to claiming that Trump was going to get Taiwan to declare independence by way of an October Surprise, and threaten military action in response:
>"People on either side of the Taiwan Straits are not willing to see war. But if one day war breaks out, Taiwan secessionists would be the chief criminal," reads the article bylined "An Ping," who some observers believe represents the voice of the mainland's state security agency. The article was published online after the mainland state security agency revealed selected Taiwan espionage cases that it has cracked down recently.
>Observers from the mainland said that as the Trump administration is likely to create the "October Surprise" by playing "the Taiwan card" to challenge China's bottom line to serve its reelection, and the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) of Taiwan with separatist stance is likely to use this as an opportunity to push secessionism, the article published on Thursday could be regarded as a solemn warning to not only the Taiwan authority but also the US.https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1203654.shtml
>>496369> consuming their own intelligence
What does that even mean? What else would you do with your own intelligence? Who writes this shit?
I must search for what this 10 days thing is
anyways this is amusing:https://greatawakening.win/p/13zMe6STwn/q-is-larp/c/
From what I've seen, the left seems to be collapsing into cynical apathy and infighting.
when fart memes are litteraly on the board you can tell theres a problem somewhere
It's not just on leftypol, imageboards, or the internet in general
The left is an almost nonexistent political force and impotence is frustrating
the bernie left has split into double-downers and surrenderers. bernie gave up fighting to take over or transform the dems and has unconditionally surrendered to them. he now works within their framework to achieve incremental gains and soften the hard edges of neoliberalism a little bit where he can.
Half (roughly) of his former movement have followed his lead and surrendered to the party. They now complain almost exclusively about republicans (and leftists who haven't also surrendered).
The other half (roughly) are continuing the same fight against the dem establishment and neoliberalism as before and calling the first half sellouts. The first camp in turn is trying to cancel leaders of the second camp as nazbols/tulcels or me too sexists.
This is probably where the burger left is for the next 8+ years at least.
That has always been the case. It should be white noise to you by now.
You should use another metric to gauge the effectiveness of the Left.
Who knows, it's Axios, which is one of the most D.C. "beltway" publications there are. The author is Jonathan Swan. Fun fact, he's married to Betsy Woodruff. I don't know if anyone here knows who these people are or cares, but she's a graduate of Hillsdale College who started out with the National Review and now works for Politico. She used to also work at the Daily Beast.
Hillsdale College has the only statue of Margaret Thatcher in the United States. It's a small club and you're not in it.
I remember being shamed for not supporting Biden. Being told that he was the real accelerationist candidate. And being told that Trump was the real warmonger/upholder of US establishment.
After Biden was elected, nobody ever praised Biden again, and all mentions of "accelerationism" were negative. Until Biden started fucking up again. But nobody is stepping up to claim ownership of being the one to propose that Biden was the real accelerationist choice. Really makes me think.
Holy Hapsburg jaw Batman!
MLs were right once again, eh?
Good the more the regime becoming insular and less democratic appearing the more likely it is to collapse on its contradictions. I think this would be happening regardless who was president. We need to heighten the contradictions. That means completely isolating the congress, scotus, and president from normal people.
watch as the libs say that its due to sexism
He's /ourlib/ because he's fucking up just enough that Trump winning the 2024 presidential is actually a viable outcome without it being a forgone conclusion (Like if he had a total implosion of support like Carter or Hoover)
The 2024 presidential and Trumps re-election would 100% tear America apart.
For all sad words of tongue and pen.
Racism helps the white bourgeoisie limit their competition by restricting power to other white people. Anti-racism allows non-white bourgeoisie an advantage once they are able to compete, which allows them to compete more and more.
Peaceful coexistence and mutual assimilation would only help society as a whole, the bourgeoisie wouldn't get anything from it so it is not pursued.
You're not entirely wrong,
when people like Sleepy Joe say these off color things about black people it makes me think a good chunk of the elites are thinly veiled racists, but it's not just Joe it's people like him who hold those views, but because of tribalism it seems like both blacks and whites would hold those views about each other.
It's just that black people don't hold all the power in this country when compared to the mostly European descent oligarchs/politicians.
It’s how we distract ourselves from class issues
Full blown assimilation would just end up hurting African American culture, it has to be mutual assimilation or coexistence
Who gives a shit about culture? And “how”?
Well I wouldn't want to damage African American culture because assimilating implies conforming to white standards, at least in America it seems that it would be that way because "white" is the dominant culture
Why do you care? The elimination of cultural differences can only help the proletariat, it doesn't matter who loses what as long as the barriers are erased.
>>496533>Damage african american culture <Implying that white culture doesn’t already siphon off and reproduce bits of black culture for its own consumption
American white culture literally is taking the bits of black culture that they find appealing and rendering it consumable and safe for their sensibilities.
Because you have to convince the different groups that erasing these barriers is in fact a good thing. I know a lot of people close to me who are Latino and black who would be appalled at this idea. How are you going to spread the proletariat's message if you're talking about erasing other cultures' uniqueness, especially with groups that for historical reasons view themselves differently from WASPs in this country?
That's an argument for corporatism, because it's taking African American culture and making it marketable for white audiences. It's completely trivializing the uniqueness of their culture and I don't agree with it. Although jazz does sound quite nice.
Because of the homestead settler colonialist mindset of frontier expansionism. Access to free land in terms of American frontier and free labour in terms of slaves or even cheap labour in terms of Europe gave Americans and the rest of the settler world the ability to basically neutralize the working class threat, along with bourgeoisie revolution happening in America prior to almost anywhere else. So race replaced workers concerned. In fact only times we saw even a glimpse at a post racial America was when workers crossed the race gap and pushed for workers rights.
Other black marxists point this out, it’s not that they think blacks our inferior, the bourgeoisie want slavery, the racial justification for slavery with scientific racism was used as the justification.
You are being retarded.
It is completely natural for cultures in close proximity and in constant interaction with each other to bleed into and eventually combine seamlessly. It is the separation of these cultures that is an unnatural imposition, asserted by the bourgeoisie for its own ends.
Your friends are either useful idiots for the bourgeoisie or bourgeois themselves if they would privilege their discrete ethnic differences over proletarian comradery.
What’s these bitches’ incomes like? And is this “assimilation” really an actual threat to their special cultural uniqueness? Is it really a process of diluting their black and latino culture, whatever the fuck that means, with whiteness, or is it blackifying and latinizing white culture? Maybe black and latino communitarian values that contrast with the atomized, predominantly white suburbanized booj ones. But hell, poor white culture has enough similarities that it’s closer to black and latino culture than “white” culture
Maybe as a south asian I’ve nothing to say on the matter, but there’s nothing I find worth protecting about out “culture” in the US.
That is not necessarily true, seamlessly? What do you mean by that? Are you implying a universal mass where all cultures are erased or where cultural differences are put aside? Maybe I should ask because I think I was confused over what you were saying exactly.
I’m arguing that there is no assimilation that’s diluting black and latino culture, and the process of tearing down barriers would authentically make white culture blacker and more latino than the artificial commodified version.
Ok, but literally everything here is commodified, everything about American culture is shallow corporate consumerist culture. The uniqueness has been bled dry by the sort of barrier erasal that the one OP on here is suggesting.
But instead of everyone being part of a proletariat it's everyone being part of a system that is capitalist where the culture is McDonald's and hip hop, and American celebrities
>>496536>*I suddenly appear behind you in your room while you're sipping on Mountain Dew and posting on leftypol*>*grabs you*>*suddenly you find yourself transported to CPUSA 2036*
Anon, if we don't accept language and cultural differences, then instead of being part of the American family, minorities would technically become non-Americans under White American occupation. This in turn will feed their local independence and terrorist movements, and will lead to long-term political and social instability.
We have chosen a different path: we accept language and cultural differences, while maintaining that all minorities are part of the overall American national identity. When it comes to numbers, White Americans are the largest, but the White American majority must respect the contributions of other groups. There is a term for this misuse and abuse of White American culture: it is called "Great White chauvinism," and runs counter to American national interests, and is not allowed. Those who promote it are arrested as troublemakers.
But because White Americans have been absorbing different peoples for so long, it makes no sense to even attempt to define themselves as a "White Race" race. That would be ridiculous, silly and mentally retarded as the poisonous cocktail nonsense of Japanese nationalism based on race and fed to the Japanese people through the Japanese military along with their military-industrial corporate supporters without fear of any organized opposition.
It makes sense. It's perhaps better to have the dems in power so they can't play the controlled opposition role. Let the republicans die from their psychotically regressive and odious platform and values. Show everyone that the democrats don't give a fuck about the working class or anything they claim to stand for. That a left opposition is the only option for better politics. The only solution to society's problems
That’s a product of capitalist hegemony, not whiteness in general. FWIW, whiteness is basically the european and anglo american delusion of somehow having genetic capital that makes you part of the winners of capitalism or at least socially mobile no matter your actual socioeconomic and class position. In other parts of the world it could be hinduness or even some ethnic position.
The separation of American culture into racial subcultures is a direct result of bourgeois imposition, of the economic and material strategy that the bourgeoisie have used for centuries. I am saying that if this strategy did not exist, the artificial boundaries between the races would dissolve almost immediately. There would be no white culture, or black culture, or latino culture. Cultural relations would be simplified to their material foundations alone; class.
The existence of these separations only helps the bourgeoisie, not society as a whole (let alone the proletariat).
One doesn’t get in the way of the other. Race and culture are irrelevant outside of the way they’re used to maintain capitalist hegemony.
Ok yeah I can agree with that, that definitely makes sense it depends on where you go and the institution of race does seem to have its roots in Anglo Saxons' racial classification of themselves in relation to African Americans.
Because anglos invented racism so they prevented class-solidatiry between slaves and "intendured servants"
>>496452>>496310 >accelerationist choice
not how acceleration works
In the sense that white Americans borrow bits and pieces of African American culture, yes
it could, but history has shown people naturally push back when others say: forget your culture, abandon it, forget your language, traditions etc.
are you really a clueless idiot? what you are saying makes sense in writing, but in practice people aren't as keen to abandon what they view as their "culture"
this is why Lenin stressed the importance of national self-determination
To what extent would physical differences ever go away, why are physical markers always the denoter of culture? I don't know what the reason is but for whatever reason people who are certain subgroups, whether defined by WASPs or some other group tend to bunch up in collectives and don't let go of their values or traditions, whether they matter or not.
You are mistaking superstructural rationalization with material motivations.
The idea of protecting your culture, language, and identity is today and has always been simple cover for protecting your material interests. There have been many times throughout history where people are completely fine with abandoning their culture, but none when it contradicts their material interests. That is what is important.
The proletariat has no material interest in racial division, as I have explained to you repeatedly it only benefits the bourgeoisie.>>496575>this is why Lenin stressed the importance of national self-determination
No it fucking isn't, lol. Fool.
He was right. Spiritually, all americans are uyghers.
Is buergerland mix just the int meme on 4chan implying Americans are always 8 ethnicities mixed together i.e. "I'm Scottish, Irish, English Italian, Polish, Greek"
You are not criticizing anti-racism, you are criticizing liberal measures to address racism. Anti-racism is still a correct approach even for after a hypothetical revolution.
The fuck you talking about? Even them, Lenin’s context is way different from the American one, namely that Russia colonized its minority populations and didn’t literally import them as a marginalized caste.
Why is everything you said wrong?
>>496308>Seeing leftoids cope about based guy biden is as fun as seeing rightoids cope about based guy zion don whenever he does some retarded shit. The accelerationist cope is just the cherry on top.
This implies we ever supported Biden in the first place, which we didn't. The right on the other hand actually fully supported Trump, as opposed to supporting no one and having fun with whatever outcome destabilized things more. The only two positions on /leftypol/ to begin with in regards to the election was not voting or accelerationism.
CRT is the pinnacle of contemporary liberal theory. If you mean something else by anti-racism that's fine, but that's what I'm talking about. If you're talking about CRT you are a liberal.
I don't read int but I think white people are just to America what Han Chinese are to China where it's just this nomadic group historically that absorbed a bunch of other ethnicities over centuries. Hence >>496560
>>496585>the obama admin didn't prove that the dems are lying controlled opposition compared to before he was elected
Liberalism has some contributions to offer. I wouldn't essentialize it as entirely bad. Same with conservatism.
Yes I remember reading about Han Chinese assimilation of outsiders that just eventually melted into Han Chinese group identity
>>496550>It is the separation of these cultures that is an unnatural imposition
I agree with that, and I think it's a justified measure. To let things run its course which would lead to the annihilation of African American culture at the hands of a dominant white society is immoral, because African Americans have been oppressed by white society, white society has been the primary hurdle when it comes to fighting racism against black people and black culture has been regularly taken and appropriated by white society. African Americans losing their culture entirely is just another injustice. Obviously you white spergs wouldn't understand, because you are part of the dominant demographic.
The point is the dems are elected and the radical lefties/communists use this as an opportunity to pressure them to fulfill promises they cannot/had no intention to fulfill. To discredit electoralism and scoop up disillusioned voters
It didn't prove anything to anyone who wasn't already convinced. The only difference is that in one case the media and Dem supporters are apoplectic because funny Tweet from funny Tweet man sent Dow Jones to -400, and in another is that they're running interference and shaming you. And I definitely know which one I prefer.
>>496576>why are physical markers always the denoter of culture?
They aren't.>I don't know what the reason is but for whatever reason people who are certain subgroups, whether defined by WASPs or some other group tend to bunch up in collectives and don't let go of their values or traditions, whether they matter or not.
They don't, values and traditions dissolve and are then supplanted by new ones literally all the time, and you live in an era where this is happening more rapidly then any other. The stark difference between what was a WASP and WASP culture decades ago and what it is now should have already exposed to you the issue in this statement.
Do you even understand that critical race theory is a field of law to study what impact certain laws or their enforcement has on different racial demographics? Or are you another tard who things CRT is teaching white children that they are responsible for slavery?
Anyway, by anti-racism I meant it's not enough to state that one isn't racist, you have to actively pay attention to what is racist, what permits racism and actively speak out against it when it happens around you. Because most people claiming they aren't racist either still are or they don't do anything in the fact of it.
This is bourgeois drivel. There is nothing moral about anything that hurts the efforts of the revolutionary proletariat. Your primitive racial dogma is a detriment to the socialist cause, and the day is swiftly approaching when it will no longer be tolerated.
>>496517>Why is race so prominent in American politics?
Racism has existed since 1619 I guess?
You can always tell the intellectual bankruptcy of these sorts of liberals by how they will never, ever mention class unless explicitly prompted. And when they do, they expose their ignorance like a hidden wound to the open air.
>>496605>when it will no longer be tolerated.
Oh I am very scared right now, my legs are trembling, you tough little faggot. People like you are just too autistic to look beyond themselves, which is why you won't gain any allies outside of other class reductionists.
>>496602>It didn't prove anything to anyone who wasn't already convinced
citation needed, 'tell that to Lenin' etc…….>The only difference is that in one case the media>funny Tweet from funny Tweet man sent Dow Jones to -400>take spectacle at face value
no>and in another is that they're running interference and shaming you
No we need to act as left opposition. Not to support dems but disparage dems and republicans and when dems win demand they fulfill their election promises, same when republicans co-opt left working class rhetoric
>why is race so prominent in a nation built on the genocide of indigenous people followed by the importation of African slaves
I guess we will never know
Explain to me where the issue is? You think racism won't be an issue anymore after a socialist revolution?
The values may change but the groups don't disappear they'll still exist even if they become part of this Grey blob, that is just in a broad sense the proletariat or workers.
WASPs in your own example are still WASPs and will still be WASPS no matter what because they're anglos who are protestant and "white" whether that has any meaning or not, just like how the African Americans will still be African American no matter how much their culture evolves.
>>496594>CRT is the pinnacle of contemporary liberal theory
Why is it?
Race would still be an issue, can't see why it wouldn't be, irl you can't convince people to dissolve their backgrounds for the greater good of the proletariat. Black marxists would still call themselves black Marxists even if you told them that they're the same as the white worker. They wouldn't let go of their identity like you'd wish.
>>496598>Yes I remember reading about Han Chinese assimilation of outsiders that just eventually melted into Han Chinese group identity
Yep. But they tend to define it more by culture (which is different from the Japanese). Guess the ethnicity of this singer? She's actually Mongolian>>496601>Kill yourself.
I think that'd be a bad idea. If I was going to jump off a bridge or walk into the ocean, it wouldn't be to kill myself, but because I wanted to join the sea peoples and become one of them in their underwater cities.>>496599>I agree with that, and I think it's a justified measure.
It's not sustainable.>>496607>You can always tell the intellectual bankruptcy of these sorts of liberals by how they will never, ever mention class unless explicitly prompted.
I don't think the American proletariat will make any progress as long as cling to racism. But if they can crush racism, then the situation will get better.
Idpol are so cancerous, literally just get rid of them and any tankie fantasy about mass murdering all the bourgeois would come to fruition.
>>496622>any tankie fantasy about mass murdering all the bourgeois
Since when have we thought about that?
One should be critical of idpol when it is based on a liberal worldview and pushes for liberal solutions. The issues raised by idpol are still real though and they won't simply vanish after a socialist revolution. All the shit you autists complain about will still be an issue after your dear revolution and outside of suppressing idpol or putting people who talk about idpol against the wall you don't have any solutions, because you are autists who don't understand what they are dealing with. The likelihood is very high that you are white hetero guys, hence why you have a hard time grasping this. You don't understand that your identity plays a large role in why you either don't understand these issues or don't relate to them. That doesn't mean they aren't real or that it's just one big fabrication. You autists are insufferable.
Race literally can't exist outside of the material conditions that prompt it. As socialism gradually liquidates the capitalist base, the racial superstructure will inevitably dissolve with it.>>496617>How is a social theory that privileges race above class liberal?
That's a real thinker.>>496622
The elimination of the enemy is only murder in the eyes of the enemy. I wonder what that makes you.
Can this guy be a part of African American culture?
I was talking about broad physical differences wasn't really talking about Korean vs Japanese or something.
>>496630>Race literally can't exist outside of the material conditions that prompt it. As socialism gradually liquidates the capitalist base, the racial superstructure will inevitably dissolve with it.
In vast arrays it will stop posing an issue for example when it comes to wealth inequality. But socially it won't just vanish. If people make experience of racist abuse in this society, how would it stop just because we have a socialist revolution? Literally all measures that liberals speak off when it comes to anti-racism will still be the solution for after a socialist revolution.
Why don't you go back to your twitter hugbox to get away from the big bad white cishets cyberbullying you? I'm sure you can find loads of racially conscious lobotomites there just waiting to validate your precious sensibilities and denounce socialists all day long.
He's got a point, the people who would agree with you and sympathize with your position on race are ethnic separatists who for all their efforts to rebrand are racial supremacists or just people who are apathetic to the socialist cause.
You're literally just regurgitating dogma.
You have no clue why racism exists or what would be necessary to abolish it, but you let some liberal retards scramble your brains and thrust some of their baseless nonsense into the mush. Such a shame.
That's what you people fail to realize is that what I am talking about is not incompatible with socialism. I agree that socialism is necessary to fully get rid of racism, I just don't think it will be enough, hence why ideas brought up by liberals such as anti-racism are correct. But people like you will denounce it as bourgeoisie, liberal or idpol.
How about racism before capitalism ever existed?
Not that anon but I think some Marxists probably overdetermine material conditions. That is more dogmatic to me than the liberals sometimes.
>>496630>As socialism gradually liquidates the capitalist base, the racial superstructure will inevitably dissolve with it.
How about informal bias?
If we are into the fight against bigotry, we must promote SOLIDARITY, and not just diversity. We must learn to accept the existence of other peoples, not just playing the idpol card. Or "I hate whites because they're racist and therefore whitesness must be eliminated". That would be extremely counterproductive.
>>496611>Google once again reworked the algorithm to cuck you out of a platform, and all your grifter "friends" ditched you to suck Dem dick.
Who are you talking to?>Your excessive bitching about Dems obviously means you want to be friends with Republifascists>controlled opposition says controlled opposition shit
Well yeah, ignore them and press your point>Welcome to the Jimmy Dore experience
He's a reformist as far as I'm aware, which is a dead end. The working class can only express their interests through revolution
Exactly. The delineation of society into racial categories is undiluted fuel for reactionary elements, the complete elimination of these categories is of the utmost importance to the working class of America.
And that's exactly why America is so fractured right now
Race theories emerged to justify the brutality enacted upon groups such as Sub-Saharan Africans, because there was an economic incentive for Europeans to expand outside of their continent to acquire more resources and use slave labor. Race is also used to divide the working class. Yada yada. It's not that deep. And after a socialist revolution it will still be an issue that Asian guys are told they have small dicks, it will still be an issue to get fetishized as a black guy, it will still be an issue that black children are told their skin looks like shit. All of these things will still be an issue, because beyond socialism we also need anti-racism as part of our society.
Well, racism also reproduces racial categories, right? Ethnic minorities targeted by reactionary elements are not only being categorized / identified as an Other (as a way of targeting or isolating or eliminating them) and they will group up to protect themselves and rally around their identity.
>>496644>You have no clue why racism exists or what would be necessary to abolish it
Racism exist due to the fact that burgers are greedy asf and need to D&C. So they invented race.
That's just colorblindness and will lead to a situation where a dominant demographic still racially abuses and dominates the others, like we already see now with white society in Western countries. That's not the solution. We must address our grievances around racial and ethnic lines, find a compromise and then live with it. I assure you, it's simply a fact that when you are white, you have a harder time grasping this, because you are a in privileged position when it comes to the cultural dominance of your group.
Horseshoe theory, just when it comes to progressives and Nazis.
Well how to fight colorblindness so that whites won't have a privilege over anybody else without slipping into the idpol trap?
I can see how a rigid adherence to facts can look like dogma to the ignorant.>>496646>But people like you will denounce it as bourgeoisie, liberal or idpol.
Because it is, lol.
When your social strategy starts with anything other than class analysis, you are no longer acting in the interests of the proletariat.>>496647
Racism as we know it today never existed before capitalism. To insist otherwise would be ahistorical and straying into the territory of saying racism is a natural human behavior, which is patently absurd.>>496653
Micro-aggressions don't actually matter, faggot. Thicken your skin.>>496658
Liberals be class conscious challenge: Day 999999…
If it weren't racism it would just be something else probably, like religion or eye color or something equally retarded to discriminate against
>>496658>I assure you, it's simply a fact that when you are white, you have a harder time grasping this,
I love seeing liberals reinforce racial boundaries for the ostensible goal of eliminating racism, it is truly fascinating.
I don't know about the "not existing before capitalism" part, there were pogroms in Europe before industrialization and before capitalism really took off, but it also existed in Africa where Jews were exiled from different nations in North Africa/the Middle East and also with the Bantu expansion into all of Sub Saharan Africa where it is theorized that they cleansed the original inhabitants of the lands they moved into. Also today in socialist nations there is still racism.
Those aren micro-agressions, those are things people psychologically suffer from. Because of the identity of the groups they are targeted for a specific kind of abuse, and the solution for them shouldn't be to bear or ignore it, but for it to seize. Which is a privilege you are already afforded when your identity is part of the dominant demographic. The fact you even say "faggot" as an insult just tells me you are a socially inept edgelord. You are well off. It's easy for you to ridicule.
If you weren't so ignorant, you would understand why this isn't a contradiction.
This sort of person is the American uyghur.
Maybe if you're talking about American racism or racism today then maybe, but to say it hasn't existed historically before capitalism is just completely asinine
>>496668>Muh dominant demographic!!!!!>You are well off!!!!!>Faggot is an insult!!!!!!!!!>USING FAGGOT IS EDGELORD AND RACIST!!!!!!
Kys, go fucking back to Twitter
You don't know what racism is, you don't know what socialism is, and you don't know what I am saying to you. Do not speak on serious topics you have not seriously studied.
Where you foaming out of your mouth writing this? Embarrassing.
Twitterfag cries again. What a sight. Kek
The issues raised by IdPol are real, but the actual problem is when people have a liberal understanding of these issues and solely seek to fix these issues inside of capitalism. Which would be futile. By all means we need a socialist revolution first to get ride of the material cause for racial division. Afterwards we still need to examine social behavior in regards to racism, point these patterns out, teach people about it and pay attention to not do it ourselves or enable it. Hence why I advocate for anti-racism. It is lazy and simplistic to believe just claiming you aren't racist would be enough. And the rest of this board just proves people think this isn't an issue simply because they don't take it seriously. They declare something that is an issue a non-issue and think it's solved.
Racism is just racial animosity towards a perceived racial group that "isn't your own", admittedly know less about it but socialism is the stepping stone to communism and its whatever it is whenever it's convenient, nobody can ever properly define it for whatever reason because there are so many variations of it, but in a broad sense it's the workers owning the means of production.
I don't have to be well versed to understand what racism is, I'm sure someone who has never read a book can tell you what it is.
That's all your going to say? Too lazy to go down your script? Hilarious.
This is really one of the highlights of CRT, the amount of cognitive dissonance contained in that specific contradiction is so dense it could create a singularity.
>>496679>I don't have to be well versed to understand what racism is, I'm sure someone who has never read a book can tell you what it is.
Not the Anon you replied to, but I completely disagree. In my country the term racism is degenerated so much, people think it's racist to discriminate against Muslims. It's a meaningless buzzword by the general population to describe "disliking people who are foreign in some way". It's divorced from its historical and material emergence.
What I said is not CRT. You are exactly like a right wing reactionary.
>>496679>I'm sure someone who has never read a book can tell you what it is.
Lol. I'm sure you know a lot about learning from people who have never read anything.
Well "Muslim" isn't a race its a religion but it might imply race depending on where you're from or who is using the word.
If we're looking at the broad definition of racism it just means hating or disliking someone of a different race. It's really not that complicated, it has become a buzzword because of the way people use the word in regards to idpol but people still know what it means.
>this whole thread
Ah, didn't know I was speaking about laws and jurisdictions here.
You tone reeks of limp-wristed faggotry, it permeates your writing like water in a soaked rag.
I'm not that anon, but I am a limp-wristed fag so maybe you were getting us confused.
If you think racism has become a buzzword because of idpol, then you are just uneducated on social issues. I'm from a European country. The reasons why I say it has become a buzzword is different from yours. They just call anything racism here that's about disliking someone for having a foreign attribute. It's divorced from any educated modelling of the issue. It's divorced from a historical understanding, from a material one and is just generalized word now, like with the word fascism being watered down to just mean authoritarian.
Aha if you say so, lil buddy
I didn't say he was the only one.>>496696
Proving my point, lol. The impotent pettiness, typical.
It absolutely has, libs call anyone who is critical of idpol and CRT as racist when we actually want to eliminate racism altogether, of course I understand there is historical context for racism, but I don't need to understand that to know what racism is.
If some white kid calls an Indian a slur involving curry I know that I don't need to understand the Indians position in white society I just need to know that oh this guy doesn't like Indian people.
The historical context could give me background on why he feels that way, but if we're just examining the animosity that is what racism really is.
It's just hatred of a perceived outgroup whether you're in Asia Africa or Europe
This sort of endless expansion of the term to the point of uselessness is exactly what >>496695
is talking about.
Based. I think this also.
Biden was already getting handed a cucked economy thats gonna fall apart in the next year or so.
They womt be able to manufacture money printing machines fast enough to print the amount they are going to need. That shit is going Weimar.
When the rest of the world realises that the US greenback is only good for wiping your backside they'll liquidate their reserves (held in USD) and exacerbate the problem
Its just cherry on top he shit the bed so completely on Afghanistan
We have never supported Biden. You will never understand Leftypol dynamics.
Who gives a shit about informal bias and bigotry. People bullying people for being different is not the same as not bring able to get a job or a decent home or whatnot.
Exactly my point. You people just declare an issue a non-issue and think now it‘s done.
Leftypol wants an answer that blames blacks and natives for not getting over racism instead of the American Empire for coming into existence as a genocidal colonialist slave empire
It's not that bad, a good portion of this thread are actual liberals. Half of those Spidermen should be spies wearing Spiderman masks.
No one said it‘s the same. The point is it is another issue. It‘s real and had a negative impact as well. As said, you are just socially inept largely exempt from these issues and that‘s why you don‘t give a shit.
So you want us to solve every issue in the world before we tackle socialism?
I'm loving this, tell me more about your revolutionary plans.
He has a point in saying that, as a white guy who likely has only ever lived around white people, the odds of you ever in your life experiencing any form of racial discrimination are laughably low, which is probably why you are totally apathetic to the problem and contemptuous of people that care about something that doesn’t affect you personally
I stated numerous times that I think we need a socialist revolution before curbing racism is a viable endeavor. Which can be extended to other forms of oppression/mistreatment as well, besides racism.
Eurouyghurs invented modern racism, actually, not Americans
Besides, some form of racism existed prior to the modern iteration anyway>>496719
Well yea because it’s not something that affects you, which is why you probably wouldn’t care if, say, the average citizen in a socialist country was racist as fuck, since it’d have no affect on your life
You’d probably be just peachy living in the most klan-dominated towns of the Jim Crow era South as well
The confusing part is the fact that you expect other people to ignore things that affect them, and that right there is the arrogance
It isn't as prominent as it is made out to be. The MSM narrative on race is made entirely for the edification of white people, to encourage them to be more racist and try to nudge them into believing there is a "race problem" by black people existing or something. Ford Foundation wants you to center race on everything because Ford Foundation is full of racists, going back to Henry Ford the Nazi. The only people who think they're going to "fix" racism in some technocratic way are white people, and it's not just a liberal thing but conservitards whose "fix" is about pumping up their own egos and saying they're totally not racist.
The black people who fucking hate America hate it for good reason, but by and large people stopped caring, because most people regardless of race are not as fucktarded as our media narratives tell them to be.
That said I don't bother with MSM and I try to talk to people who aren't fucktards. None of this "race narrative" registers to me or the people I talk to. I don't think it's "woketard race politics" to say you don't like the idea of police arbitrarily slaughtering someone, and the "blue line" people immediately going to race-science to justify their utterly depraved behavior. The intent of the MSM narrative is to try and sell the white racists as somehow totally legitimate in the discourse, and to try and equivocate them with people who would very much not like police to slaughter random people. I would have thought a sane country would look at the George Floyd thing and accept that the police have been outrageous for quite some time, but somehow the spin doctors successfully made it into a win for Trump and started another round of America going batshit crazy. It took a lot of doing to legitimize anything Trump did during that entire debacle. A sane country would have found Trump and hang him like Mussolini got hanged, but we can't have nice things in this country.
What I get from the black people I talk to, of various types, is that they just wish white people were less fucktarded and could act like grown-ass human beings. That was what was gross about the whole "race narrative" thing MSM is pushing. People who wanted something reasonable and basic that a normal fucking human being would do are somehow turned into cloudcuckcoolanders. American race narratives are so fucking insane that even the Nazis looked at Jim Crow and said "man, that's fucked up". That tells you a lot about how fucking atrocious the spin doctors are in this country.
>>496747> What I get from the black people I talk to, of various types, is that they just wish white people were less fucktarded and could act like grown-ass human beings.
This much is true
Most black people are basically like “Man wouldn’t it be cool if white people just…didn’t see our skin color and were normal an shit?”
To add on as a black dude, most other black people I talk to including myself get very uncomfortable when white people go out of their way NOT to be racist because, idk, just be normal, if you aren’t racist you don’t need to do some performance to prove you aren’t just don’t be a dick
>Why is race so prominent in American politics?
The bourgeois worked hard to make it that way.
>Will there ever be a point or time of peace where it literally doesn't matter anymore?
Maybe after capitalism falls and amends are made
I am not apathetic, I am hostile. My research has concluded that this theoretical line is useless at best, and traitorous at worst. When I was a teenager I was more radical on this topic than anybody in this thread, years before these ideas became mainstream. I know what I am talking about, and I know from personal experience that these ideas are dead ends. They lack a theoretical basis, they lack evidence, and they lack utility.
They do not grow from socialism, they are a bourgeois disease that rapes a place into socialist theory. It is a vile and pernicious evil, and any socialist worth their salt should understand it as their duty to oppose it whenever possible.
Then you have absolutely no reason to be talking about this today. Socialist construction is the work of our children, the one and only job of the people alive today is to secure the basis for that construction. Any theoretical line that does not contribute to this immediate end is an obstacle, at best.
>>496708>When the rest of the world realises that the US greenback is only good for wiping your backside they'll liquidate their reserves (held in USD) and exacerbate the problem
If anything this has already started.
The greenback literally sat around being 90%+ of the entire worlds currency reserves give or take up until the end of the Obama presidency.
Since Trump took office its begun to rapidly tumble.
Now its only about 65% of the worlds total reserve. Which even though its a total oversimplification, that coupled with the fact the world is ALSO weaning itself off the Petrodollar system (China basically guaranteeing the independence of the Iranian oil industry + Opening a RMB index for trading oil futures) basically means the US dollar has ALREADY lost about 25% of its value compared to around 2016 or so.
>>496765>I am>My research
You’ve yet to argue why I should give half a flippant fuck about you, anonymous internet nobody
And all those struggle session threads from last year in which Anons admitted they were voting for him to "stop facism" or whatever just didn't exist, right?(come on man)
Watch it be Agent Kochinski in disguise
>>496791>goes on an anonymous imageboard>refuses to hear a single word from anybody he disagrees with on the grounds that they are anonymous
The level of retardation on display is…it's truly astounding.
/leftypol/ endorsed Tulsi Gabbard
We have to provide the research and theory of tackling these other forms of oppression for after the revolution.>>496800
No I think people are dismissing you because you haven‘t said anything worthwhile. By the looks of your post I don‘t even know if you are older than 16 and spend most of your days in a CoD lobby.
What did you say that was actually relevant, meaningful, or at the very fucking least persuasive?
You just rambled about how people, idk, being anti-racists? Being affected by racism (truly do not know what you were really ranting about), are bourgeois?
What does this mean?
What the fuck did you post other than the typical autistic drivel meant to make leftypol anons turn their brains off at the sight of the keywords and ignore the fact that your post had nothing of substance in it?
The parts I quoted were meant to show what a joke you are>I am actively hostile!
How gives a fuck?>My research!
You mean the research you vaguely mention but neither post nor explain? Again, who gives a fuck? You’re acting like you’re in some state of authority on the matter but as far I’m concerned you’re just text on a screen.
You gave me a joke of a reply so I gave you a joke in return.
>>496710>You will never understand Leftypol dynamics.
Muh sektrit club
France warns new Aukus alliance threatens security partnerships in Indo-Pacifichttps://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3148934/france-warns-aukus-alliance-threatens-security-partnerships
>Tries to consolidate the Indo-Pacific<Ends up with a diplomatic crisis with France
/Ourlib/ Biden still working to dismantle the Empire lol
>>496600>dems are elected and the radical lefties/communists
You're showing to the world and to this board that you are indeed, an absolute retard
>>496517>Why is race so prominent in American politics?
First of all read a book, specifically one about American history. Second of all, today race is a topic manipulated by the elites to lure the masses away from class consciousness and class struggle.
This is what Lenin also suggested the English communists do in the book Left Communism An Infantile Disorder
who would /leftypol/ side with?
The "left" or the left like in here, these circles? It is cohesive in these circles, and they are kinda growing.
Meanwhile, the "left" is either moving towards liberalism or toward the circles like this place.
>>496452>>496452>Being told that he was the real accelerationist candidate.
Lies. I was here during the 2020 race and trump was shilled like the accel candidate.
We don't side with anyone but socialists?
Sheesh, France is pissed about that submarine deal.
IDK why the EU is all that surprised about being excluded from these Anti-China military alliances. They have not been nearly as hostile towards China as the Anglosphere has.
Like you say, this can only be a good thing. An increasingly independent EU is a massive step towards multi-polarity.
Trump was shilled as the accelerationist candidate until Biden won then he was the accelerationist president, mostly to annoy the harm reduction fags that crawl out of the woodwork every four years
People who unironically believe in the """""thin blue line""""" have not changed their view of police since they were six years old. They all get the wall.
Excuse me I'd just like to interject here
I flipped from Trump to Biden being the accelerationist candidate before
the election once I realized how dementia ridden he was
Ah, yes. I remember this was the case, but I guess it was only one. The rest was choring trump
I actually did fall for the harm reduction meme, though mostly in a geopolitics sense which I guess is bearing fruit? The afghan shit would not happen with Trump, and I felt like Trump would get much more bold in his final term honestly.
>>496942> IDK why the EU is all that surprised about being excluded from these Anti-China military alliances. They have not been nearly as hostile towards China as the Anglosphere has.
Also the Anglosphere has greater ties to Japan and India then Continental Europe. Japan and India are already "honorary" Anglo nations at this point. Vietnam looks like they will join them as well. I know this is controversial but based off of how anti-China Vientmanese people are online it seems likely.
I think burger elites understand that they have to implement social democracy, keynsianism, and protectionism in order to survive. This is why they are elevating AOC.
Like clockwork his supporters are falling over each other to claim that they never supported him in the first place, just like poltards. Never change.
The only difference between this place and pol is the lack of black cock spam because it's nowhere near as active. Same level of mental gymnastics though, same level of coping.(Banned for arguing in bad faith and implying a false position of the userbase see rule 5 section 2 : https://leftypol.org/rules.html)
It's a joke, moron. Nobody is cheering for Biden except when he fails because seeing america fail is good.
Read the OP idiot. He's being cheered for sleeping on the Israel PM. He OBVIOUSLY didn't sleep on purpose. Please say sike.
I don't know who would be more based in this situation
>>497079>Same level of mental gymnastics though, same level of coping.
Just as fucking moronic as a /pol/yp.
One of our banners, from the election period, which you can verify because it's on GitHub, says "you're ridin with Biden" and the response is based Jason saying "I'd rather die" or some shit. Stop lying, lol.
Democrats is the party of mega corps now
this is well known. Wars abroad are usually followed by right wing extremism at home. Whether the nazis who were ww1 vets like hitler, or KKK surge in the 1920s in america. Or the 70/80s white supremacist (old school, turner diaries shit) movements after vietnam.
this is good, a dictatorship will make communism much more popular in America
>>496860>you will live long enough to see a NATO intra-conflict between the Anglos and France/Germany
Wtf based timeline? Prolekult was right
>>496530>African American culture
What is this and why is it important to preserve?
>>497083>Nobody is cheering for Biden except when he fails because seeing america fail is good.
Stop lying you disingenuous dork. I can read the posts here, whether people support him because of his policies or he's a BASED accelerationist is all the same.
Dumb janny had to ban me too, you're such a worm, moderating an imageboard is the only power you will ever taste in your pathetic life.(this person is now banned)
Whatever makes you sleep at night. Just fuck off.
Who fucking cares? We're building a new society for everyone, which means for everyone and does not exclude anyone.Got it shitlib?
What's the sitrep on the Arizona recount? Reactoids the world over are waiting its results to finally reinstate The Don so he can finally start doing whatever it wwas he promised to do 5 years ago.>>495035
It's irrelevant. Reactionarism, to have any mass appeal at all, has to induce in the people a surrogate sense of loss. Mint julep enjoyer Eadward P. Twaddle can't possibly rally people with cries of "I'm about to lose the chattel slaves I have rightfully inherited", so he inevitably has to appeal to spooks in order to marshall moonshine fan Bubba M. Utt to kill and die for him. There's no reactionarism without self-victimization.
Just like Wal-Mart does.
>>496765>When I was a teenager I was more radical on this topic than anybody in this thread, years before these ideas became mainstream … They lack a theoretical basis, they lack evidence, and they lack utility … It is a vile and pernicious evil
You turned into your opposite, but are still acting like a megalomaniac who knows everything and has got it all figured out, constantly lashing out at everyone around them, commanding them to obey, but the person you're really at war with… is the person you were yesterday.
It's a kind of ideological shadowboxing that comes from always looking for the "right" theory, and the right theory is always whichever one is most alienating to everyone around them, which also comes from social isolation. If you're a Marxist and you're not a member of a party or org, I'd recommend joining one and getting organized first before demanding everyone obey your position, and if they're not good or pure enough, work to make your party or org what you want it to be.
Somebody should have told LaRouche about the Suez crisis tbqh
>>497139>What's the sitrep on the Arizona recount? Reactoids the world over are waiting its results to finally reinstate The Don so he can finally start doing whatever it wwas he promised to do 5 years ago.
Don is the biggest disappointment
Not your personal army.
NTA but that’s a terrible argument. Talking about that shit doesn’t hinder the work needed to make it possible.
Keep your toxic dogshit politics contained to your containment thread then storeshitter
>>497192>Disgusting eurofaggots pretending like they didn’t invent the modern racial classification system and spread the slave trade across the seas before embarking on global imperialism
Honestly it sickens me how cowardly euros are
It literally does you colossal dick sucking faggot.
It isn't just that America has a racist history, it is that racism has traditionally been an integral part of American society. Howard Zinn pointed out in "A People's History of the United States" that in early colonial Virginia there were three groups: white indentured servants, African slaves, and the white planter elite. White indentured servants and African slaves would often run away together, or would attempt labor revolts, and it became necessary for the white planter elite to separate the two groups, both physically, and socially. This is were the first "black codes" originate, really. Things like anti-miscegenation laws have their origin in this time period specifically because the only thing stronger than class solidarity are familial bonds. The white planter elite did not want white indentured servants to see African slaves as human, so they went out of their way to propagandize, separate, and misinform.
Sounds like idealism to me.
Inb4 cons claim that they will finish 'recounting' on January 20th 2025 send more money.
Well we are
a bunch of subhumans.
And so the porn spamming began.
pretty sure that is a Agent Kochinski quote
Didn't Vietnam laugh in Kamalas face like a week ago when she shit talked china and then put flowers on the monument to comrades who shot down John McCain?
Unpopular Opinion, focusing on race makes race relations worse, the best way to get rid of racism is to remove legal barriers and add time. >>496530
unless you pass anti-miscegenation laws assimilation is inevitable >>496599
so what;s your solution, segregation forever, because short of that racial barriers will fall >>496668>Those aren micro-agressions, those are things people psychologically suffer from. Because of the identity of the groups they are targeted for a specific kind of abuse, and the solution for them shouldn't be to bear or ignore it, but for it to seize. Which is a privilege you are already afforded when your identity is part of the dominant demographic. The fact you even say "faggot" as an insult just tells me you are a socially inept edgelord. You are well off. It's easy for you to ridicule.
White kids in CRT classes have the same thing when they are told that they are inherently racist and inherently oppressive.
The Guardian's article did say that France got cucked out of 90 billion dollar contract. I was wondering if it was going to lead to something.
The descendant of irishmen destroys the child-nation empire of the british. Its like poetry, it rhymes
stop or ill start liking him
Rightoids that can’t post bad faith discussions that go nowhere due to being premised on circular reasoning made of straw-man positions will inevitably sperg and spam their fap folder.
The number of cases of this practically make it a scientific law.
The paper doesn't go into many details but mentions right-wing organizations using infantry tactics and organizational structures they picked up while in the military (albeit at a pretty low level). But a lot of this was developed in the context of a 20-year-long counter-insurgency campaign where these guys were given military cop jobs, or private military contractors. Reminder they also fucked it up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Applied in a domestic U.S. context, it's totally schizo. Once Trump got elected, they leaped into acting like this domestic "counter-insurgency" force. They imagine themselves as defending America but the way they act toward their own country like an occupying army sitting in frontier forts.
where are these figures from?
Thank god we have the brave jannies to protect us.
>>497259>want to be an insurgent >only trained as an occupier
thank god they are too dumb to realize this and switch it up
I’m a south asian in the US. My family and my jewish partner’s family have economic security that insulates us from these things. If we were poor, racial aggression would be more high up on the list for us, but it ain’t.
Being told that I’m supposed to have a small dick isn’t gonna make my penis shrink or my sex life work or some other bizarre bullshit spewed by socially retarded burgersharts.
whats the difference between whites and blacks then?
Will you explain or chimp out some more
You’re not wrong, but it’s only true if you follow it to bourgeois conclusions instead of wholly marxist ones.
Already answered the question, race structuring how america is run is written into the constitution because the country was run by pilgrim merchants that hated competition
But laws are superstructural codifications of realities expressed in the base. How is knowing the constitutional creation of race useful for praxis?
You could also just ignore the laws like what black people already did in segregation
>>496615>The values may change but the groups don't disappear they'll still exist even if they become part of this Grey blob, that is just in a broad sense the proletariat or workers.
Except multiple times throughout history we can point to said groups disappearing, and entirely new distinctions becoming a thing. The distinction of WASP is itself its own transient contextual thing. >WASPs in your own example are still WASPs and will still be WASPS no matter what because they're anglos who are protestant and "white" whether that has any meaning or not.
Saying they'll always be WASPs is itself reifying the concepts behind such things. As said before, the term WASP itself has its own connotations that are both contextual and transient. >just like how the African Americans will still be African American no matter how much their culture evolves.
Literally the term "African American" is in itself contextual to the time we live in and based on there still existing a distinction between what is "American" and what is an "other American".>>496631>Can this guy be a part of African American culture?
Arguably, this has already happened in some respects, as as African American culture enters the mainstream and integrates itslef into broader American culture. >I was talking about broad physical differences wasn't really talking about Korean vs Japanese or something.
I know you were talking about physical differences, and it doesn't matter in regards to what I am discussing.
MOVE THIS SHIT TO USA/POL/ MODS WTF ARE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS DOING I REPORTED THIS THEAD TWICE AND ONCE ON /meta/
Hey why are you fucking lying bastard?
>Gabbard was to the left of Sanders on foreign policy
She's an ex member of the Council on Foreign Relations who supports the drone war, the quasifascist Modi & the BJP in India, and Israel. She originally opposed the Iran Deal.
>Gabbard was to the left of Sanders on healthcare
She supports an Australian style system with private insurance playing a large part.
>Gabbard was to the left of Sanders on women's rights
She supports regulating late term abortions, i.e. where there is often a threat to the life of the mother or fetus.
At an individual level, but how many people could withstand the sanctioning by their enforcement?
That makes no sense, African American culture is American culture. Like an important corner stone. Especially music and youth culture. Assimilation is stupid because black people are already Assimilated. They're already American and burgerfried. A white redneck from Virgina had more in common and more shared culture with some random black guy from Texas or Chicago than he does with a euro. Like any European. Like you couldn't just take a white burger and plop them in German and expect them to be okay or know the culture. Just like you cant take a black American and just plop somewhere in west Africa. Americans might as well be a different species when compared to the old world culturally.
Like nearly all of them. It was the same situation with slavery, the overwhelm majority of the black populace emancipated themselves with noticable events like gullah geechee that would then go on to be ordinary proles in cities working for wages, same situation with segregational laws, just move somewhere else that didnt have them or just ignore them and have capitalists seethe when they cant enforce their own BS laws
Are you African American? Probably not. You have some superficial outsiders view on it.
>African American culture is American culture. Like an important corner stone.
It's an aspect of American culture. And elements of African American culture that got commodified and popularized aren't even a honest representation of African American culture. It's like calling the shit that's popular at hot topic and accurate representation of white American culture.
>Assimilation is stupid because black people are already Assimilated.
They clearly aren't looking at how socioeconomically segregated they are.
Having a slave race, and then racial apartheid, and then informal discrimination and never a reconciliation with history probably means it will be a political issue forever.
tbh they'd probably start using taliban/aq tactics if push came to shove. The uniform guys are mostly larpers
"WHY DOES RACE MATTER? HUR DUR"
>>496795>And all those struggle session threads from last year in which Anons admitted they were voting for him to "stop facism" or whatever just didn't exist, right?
No, they didn't. Again, stop fabricating shit. >>497079>Like clockwork his supporters are falling over each other to claim that they never supported him in the first place, just like poltards. Never change.
Post proof you faggot, an archive is preferable. Prove to me that this was ever the general board consensus. I don't even vote, so don't go pointing fingers at me as a "supporter" as well you dishonest faggot. >The only difference between this place and pol is the lack of black cock spam because it's nowhere near as active. Same level of mental gymnastics though, same level of coping.
Again, post proof to your claim.>>497119>Stop lying you disingenuous dork. I can read the posts here, whether people support him because of his policies or he's a BASED accelerationist is all the same.
But those literally aren't the same, those are two completely different reasons. And anons here did the same for Trump as well in their "support" of him, as in celebrating the president's fuck-ups and crossing their fingers for destabilization.
You're probably a troll, but this thread is satire, moron.>>497336
I couldn't give 2 flying fuck about Tulsi, but I remember the consensus was that she was based on some stuff, and the rest of the things made her basically a right winger.
>>496517>Why is race so prominent in American politics?
Because the ruling class is racist, thus is common people are racist, too.
In politics, it is a way to divert the attention of the class struggle, despite many sociologists call for an "intersectional" approach: The sum of class struggle, gender struggle, race struggle, etc.>Will there ever be a point or time of peace where it literally doesn't matter anymore?
No, unless some mad murder arrives at the white house and occurs a civil war. Not even the second world war stopped the race thing inside the U.S. only weakened it.
>America is a historically racist country
Lmao, that's exactly structural racism, the racism theory, and the most comprehensive theory that explains racism. You can point institutional racism out of nowhere because it came from somewhere. And institutional racism has a different meaning from 1915 and 2015.
There is a book called Cynical Race Theory, people say it's good.
Maybe somebody can post a pdf, you'd probably get something out of it.pic not related
Hahaha butthurted faggot, die.
Through collective action? That’s not the same as pretending it don’t exist
CRTs are so good with retro games.
I can't go back.
Depends on how recently they came (Like my fam came here from Ireland in the 20's, so one side is all Irish, while the others came here from straya in the 1800's and they're a weird Germano-French-English mix)
But yeah most White americans are a weird mix of different brands of european and some african
Rosa deserved it
>Hurr I lost an election but I swear the people are on muh side
Yeah, those black eyed psychos from the western front will totally fall in line Rosa, totally.
Today in ``Burger Brain Hot Takes`` from a discussion on trains:
>I'm not a fan of mass transit though. It feels unamerican.
porky propaganda has gaslit this whole joke of a country to such an unbelievable amount.
>>497512>Rosa deserved it
Fucking kill yourself, fucking burger PoS.
Followup<muh public safety>Commies are just against personal freedom>Freedom is dangerous. Deal with it.
Sorry I made fun of your waifu who died decades before you're grandfather was born. You gonna come at me for thinking Cleopatra was a hoe while you're at it?
True. I mean people literally think the solution to being paid too little is to work harder, as if the employee decides what the wages are when literally everybody knows that's not the case. It's even more absurd than believing the earth is flat, because everybody sees directly that the employee doesn't decide what they're paid.
naw, progressive liberalism will just win and have 60% of the population and all he white christian conservaboomers will die out. Conservatism will just morph to anti pc and fratty dudebros who hate feminism.
Basically the future is woke capitalism and any secession bullshit is a larp
I agree that progressive liberalism will become the slight majority but I also think the younger militant rightoids will become an Al-Qaeda-esque insurgent group that will plague us for many years
>>497579>Basically the future is woke capitalism and any secession bullshit is a larp
I checked out ben shapiro for California recall reaction and he said the track for the centralizing of power as prompted by the scope of crisis means we will either dissolve the union or things will get ugly.
He kept saying the national sorting going on where red people love to red states and blue to blue states is the future.
It does feel like this country's future trajectory of growth is so contradictory its going to hit an impasse
they're too weak for that tbh. They'll just seethe in fbi.govs after getting home from their help desk jobs.
Ben Shapiro is full of shit that little manlet ain't gonna do shit
>>497590>Ben Shapiro is full of shit
Yea but the dude is like the biggest name on Facebook lol. I feel like red state secession is not a remote possibility anymore
fedbook boomers seething isn't real life. The federal government isn't going to allow secession and everyone knows it. 100% larp
Aren't the libs worried about a right wing uprising at this point
Florida has been swinging more republican every election cycle since 2008. Miami-Dade County was once considered a solid blue county and in 2020 it nearly went to Donald Trump. it was a difference of only 3 percentage points. Miami-Dade holds almost 1/4th of the population of florida. Trump still won Florida but even in the bluest part of the state he managed to nearly swing it in favor of him. Florida is not a swing state anymore and is unlikely to be so in the future. Cubans love Trump and DeSantis.
Texas becoming blue is a possibility but republicans can use gerrymandering, limited ballot access, voter roll purges and byzantine rules for determining who is even allowed to run for office to ruin the ability of democrats to be competitive for state level or federal offices outside of a few urban counties. Even if texas votes blue, the legislature will still be dominated by 1 party (republican). Georgia voted blue in 2020 on a federal level but still has a solid republican legislature. This is why the radlib dream of Texas voting blue in a presidential election meaning it becomes California is wrong. They will still have their abortion laws and lack of permits for concealed carry of handguns.
You can find everything I said for yourself very easily, her political career is essentially dead anyway.
>>497245>Didn't Vietnam laugh in Kamalas face like a week ago when she shit talked china and then put flowers on the monument to comrades who shot down John McCain?
yeah, but tabloid news isn't what affects the fate of nations
>>497663>have been trending more in favor of republicans.
Wow they must be around 60% Republican with wording like that, right?
they are 160% more republican then what they were four years ago
>>497638>Cubans love Trump and DeSantis
Because they gave them anticommunist rhetoric, they voted for them due to the fact that it's based on their hopes of "countering le communist Cuba". Florida is Gusano central. That's why they also hate the Black Lives Matter organization (it not only is at different poles with them, but is also actively denouncing the Cuban embargoes).
Wow so they must be like 80% Republican then?
I'd vote for that. I just don't see her gaining traction but who knows. Bernie was/is way more popular than she's ever been but even he was a far cry from getting the nom or especially winning.
I would expect Tulsi to get most of the votes in the 30s and 40s because Bernie is too old to goven and by the time most zoomers and millennials reach the legal voting age he is at worst scenario dead.
Wrong. Latinos hated trump
The only spectrum of Latinos loving trump is rightwingers gusanos from Venezuela and Cuba, which alienates the rest of the Latino population because, despite they are insignificant outside of Florida, the potus policies are focused on those gusanos, but nothing changes for the rest of the latinos under trump.
Mexicans aren't morons, Hondurans aren't morons, Peruvians aren't morons, etc etc etc.
>>497681>The only spectrum of Latinos loving trump is rightwingers gusanos from Venezuela and Cuba, which alienates the rest of the Latino population because, despite they are insignificant outside of Florida, the potus policies are focused on those gusanos, but nothing changes for the rest of the latinos under trump.
this isn't true
No I think it's definitely over for Trump. I just don't know how Tulsi is going to suddenly pick up that much traction. I don't see much room for a middle ground candidate. Libs and religious/ethnicist right control their respective ~halves of the electorate.
She's already on the lib blacklist and righties won't vote for her because she's not white and not socially conservative enough nor Christian.
>>497690>>497690>No I think it's definitely over for Trump.
*meant Bernie, whoops.
I am talking in majorities. Not in totalities.
be careful with your demands sir
>>497678>I just don't see her gaining traction but who knows.
Her polling jumped after she appeared in the debates and she was the most-searched candidate both times after the BTFO copmala.
GOP have made inroads while dem-libs have done nothing. The two party system must exist for radlibs to have power. Dems having a supermajority is bad for bougeoise.
>>497690>I just don't know how Tulsi is going to suddenly pick up that much traction
By uniting both left and right on their common issues to legitimize her coup.>>497691BASED
fuck radlibs who can't be bothered to use a condom lmao. Too bad she is for decriminalizing prostitution and legalizing weed.
>>497702>BASED fuck radlibs who can't be bothered to use a condom lmao. Too bad she is for decriminalizing prostitution and legalizing weed.
She has nearly a perfect score from the abortion groups. She's very in line with the libs, they just flipped on her after the Syria thing and then the impeachment thing.
Yeah but she has gone more balls to the wall recently, during her last months in Congress she pushed for anti-abortion and anti-troon shit.
She's pro choice and thats good.
Fucking without a condom feels better
>>497702>Too bad she is for decriminalizing prostitution and legalizing weed.
that's good tho. stop moralfagging
STATE SANCTIONED BROTHELS AND NTTO WEED SHOPS WHEN?
pls respond, what's the current deadline trumpanzees are expecting?
So do burgers really not know about the basic fact that all the nuclear powers literally have ALL of each others commanders on speed dial so that if a computer error happens in france or something and the french grand marshal is like
<"Monsieur Khan did Pakistan just launch ze Missile at New Caledonia???"
<"Ok…false alarm i guess."
We need a ticker that's like "Days since Biden was meant to pass the infrastructure bill"
going on two years now.
ONE. FUCKING. BILL.
No shit i meant. "Almost two years into his presidency"
who cares, we knew he wasnt gonna do shit anyway. Not with Manchin and Sinema or w/e
is this thread a radlib containment thread?
got lazy, heh. thanks
>>497786>ONE. FUCKING. BILL.
Only Republicans are allowed to actually go through with any angenda
Wait, did trump say to his people to go to use a mask and vaccinate now?
Too many questions
>>497786>We need a ticker that's like "Days since Biden was meant to pass the infrastructure bill">going on two years now.
Anon…. he's been in office half a year.
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