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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Are they lumpen? Class traitor? Revolutionary lifestyle that doesn't contribute to the working relation of modern capitalism? Leeches? Vagabonds? What's your opinion on NEETs? Did you had a NEETdom period in your life? How was it?

I did have a period of NEETdom, it's a quiet liberating, spent my days reading books, mangas, playing vidya, going to the gym and doing walks, almost 0 stress, pretty freeing lifestyle, I would keep being a NEET if I had the oportunity, but life is a bitch, I survived with Mombux.

I was a semi neet for years. I would work for half year or so and then collect unemployment benefits for the remaining year until the work season began. It was alright I didn't do much during the down periods mostly just stay at home. I'm a very avoidant and closed off person so I didn't enjoy being being out and about much but inside all the time also made me a bit a restless. Now that I work full time it gives me more structure and I kind of like working but outside of work I go out even less and I still live at home I don't ever plan on moving out still fairly closed off and avoidant even more so since Covid. Just stacking cash until I need to use it

I have worked for a total of ~4-5 years

t. 36

R8

i have been a neet for 7 years or so, with brief moments of employment. the thing is that with so much free time, we also tend to waste it. its like homeless people; they are "free" in one sense, but prisoners in another. the only issue is that being an unemployed manchild is unattractive to women, so when im ready to settle down, ill get a job.

>>2265551
How old, bro? I thought Leftypolers are bunch of a work drones obsessed with jobs and shit.

Music related.

lumpen are just people with an unstable or non-existent relationship with the owner-parasite/worker dichotomy, which can make them easy to bribe and develop individualistic mercenary tendencies

neets fit the bill, they absolutely are lumpen

>>2265549
How you survive?

>>2265525
Neets should be shot.
Get a job, Get a life, instead of making endless slide threads.

>>2265555
So are you saying NEETs are evil?

>>2265559
No, I refuse to be obsessed with work like a bug men ant drone.


>>2265563
Still young, NEET as much you can, soon the necessity of work will appear with a fury, nobody can NEET for life unless you get NEETbux or it's rich since birth.

>>2265562
No, lumpen are not necessarily evil, it's just that their material conditions make them prone to reactionary tendencies. Not knowing where your next meal will come from will create mercenary tendencies, and being at the absolute bottom of capitalist society makes it easier to develop chauvinistic beliefs in order to feel like there's someone below you. But there's always exceptions, in fact I'd say that lumpen are not nearly as reactionary as petitbourgs or bourgs, they're simply volatile.

>>2265525
parasitism. it shouldn't be encouraged

Neetdom should probably not be encouraged but if you fall into it you probably had a bunch of other issues that led to it anyways so you don't really need anyone to encourage you into it anyways.

>>2265572
>>2265580
>>2265630
Why you people have this idea of putting work in a pedestal?

NEET bump

>>2265562
That's fine but please stop being obsessed with posting dogshit op's on /leftypol/. You're not funny.

if NEET in imperial core: heroic non-contributor to evil empire

if NEET in imperial periphery: parasitic unpatriotic lumpen 5th columnist and potential future scab

>>2265525
>Are they lumpen?
Yes. No different from beggars.
>but im not a wage cuck
Beggars have the freedom of living in the streets like rats not much else.

Neets are just neets

NEETs encompass every class since they're mostly kids

Women won't even look at you unless you're a NEET, they all want BNC, fuck my gay wagie life

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>>2265737
Big Noid Cock?

>>2265712
I see "gg[vowel]rs" and of course I read it as the N word first. What using 4chan for 20 years does to a mf.

>>2265525
to be a wagie with bosses and managers breathing down ur neck is hell

if you are not doing anything productive to improve ur life and others, u may suck

for a year during covid with trumpbux. it was great while it lasted

>>2265555
When ya put it like that, it sounds like prole is a sweet spot of immiserated but not too immiserated.

>>2265525
Guy Debord said "Never work".
NEETism is simply Situationist praxis.

quasi-neet for about 2 years (variable self-employment doing odd-jobs to get by) and full neet during COVID - it was probably the best time for my physical health since I had all the time in the world to do my exercises but the general lack of direction and security was pretty bad for my mental health and self-worth, I had some notable depression spirals during that time. also they are pretty obviously lumpenproles, variable as to if they want to be in that position or not tho - there is an increasing reserve army of labor and general job instability in the capitalist core so an increasing propensity for NEETdom is somewhat understandable.

>>2265525
imo NEETdom is a tricky subject. Neets can either leave lives of pure heteronomic indulgence (i.e redditors and 4chinners), engage in colloquial/productive hobbies or actually have some form of practical craft that they merely refrain from commodifying. The first is the most common type of NEET, as I'd consider them lumpen. It's not really a question of if NEETs are inherently bad but merely the gradient of virtue that informs them.
If you have the conditions to live fruitfully without an occupation then it would be more preferable as you're not just generating passive capital; just don't utterly degrade your body and mind by instantaneous pleasures while rotting on the internet.

neets are lumpenproles. They either have no class consciousness, or tend towards fascism and anarchism.

Being a non worker means straight to the gulag

imo all NEETs should be offered a job that they are capable of doing by the state first, and if they refuse it, then they get the gulag :)

how the fuck are you gonna be part of the actual proletarian struggle if youre unemployed uygha wtf lmao

Lots of lumpen get fucked over for idpol reasons though. The only reason I'm not a proletarian with a normal job and a neet leech instead is that I'm unemployable for idpol related reasons. Just nobody wants to hire me.

>>2296877
Kinda agree with this.

>>2296882
-making flag designs on reddit
-creating tiktok & twitter hashtags
-designing infographics
-shitflinging with internet strangers online

Just to name a few. Us REAL fighters are doing our part.

My job is reading theory and arguing about minutiae on obscure internet sites
When the revolution comes the Party will beg to fund my lifestyle in exchange for the deep insight I can give them on how to govern :)

Lol at the cucks proud of toiling for the bourgeois. If one has the means to go neet they should do it, working so much you need to piss in a bottle in the amazon wage cage so bezos can buy a third yacht doesn't make you a heckin proletarian fighter. You're just being fucked. The communist movement has been in fact choke full of unemployed intellectuals especially in cadre positions because they could dedicate their time to the fight

>>2296910
nobody is moralizing here lmfao, but dont get pissy when youre correctly identified as a politically inert middle classer

>>2296910
also the last thing the proletarian movement needs is 'unemployed intellectuals' or intellectuals in general

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>>2296918
>the last thing the proletarian movement needs is intellectuals

>Lives off parents
leeching off other people's labor. to be reeducated
>lives off state welfare
maybe leeching off taxpayers, but then again corporations and banks get hundreds of billions from state gibs and tax breaks so i don't care
>lives off investments/capital
signs of an actual bourgeois family. to be thrown into barbara pit.

overall I see neets as a product of the capitalist world. they would probably find something to do under socialism. I can't consider them good, neutral at best. especially seeing how many of them turn into total reactionaries (look at 4chan and chans from different countries)

>>2296923
epic meme XD

> The biggest obstacles are the small peasants and the importunate super-clever intellectuals who always think they know everything so much the better, the less they understand it.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_21.htm

>>2296930
If Engels wrote we don't need super-clever intellectuals then why didn't he and Marx kill themselves?

>>2296934
you know damn well what intellectual refers to you disingenuous faggot

>>2296936
No I don't.

>>2296930
>leeching of engels and writing philosophy instead of working in the mines
bourgeois, straight to the gulag

>>2296937
>>2296938
why do pseuds here even talk about this they have no idea about lol

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>>2296938
>Marx was writing philosophy

>>2296939
I don't know.

>>2265525
>Revolutionary lifestyle

>>2296940
true "please engels give me money i'm a neet" isn't exactly philosophy

>>2296940
all edge, no point

>>2296950
>edge
did you learn this word today

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>>2296947
Everyone I encounter online tries to read Capital like a philosophy tome instead of a science textbook on capitalism. They sure don't make it long when they realize my man Marx is literally providing formulas to dissect capitalism's different mechanisms.


>>2296951
the "edge" is that marx wasn't a philosopher, and that it matters if he was or wasn't

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More neets → Proletarians have a better position in the labor market → Bourgeois pigs can't steal as much surplus value → Capitalist crisis.
More neets → Government bleeds out from unemployment benefits → Less imperial funds
Its simple!

>>2296968
Sakura cute

NEETs are part of the declassed. Back in the 60's you could walk into a factory and easily get a job at the equivalent of $40 or $50 an hour, get housing thus providing the material conditions for raising a family. These days you have the choice between three options. One: debt-slavery university and all it entails (required to have a chance to approach former proletarian standards of living.) Two: vocation or service jobs at a lower proletarian standard of living (competing with immigrant labor.) Three: disengagement with labor, this includes being a lumpen criminal, NEETing, or becoming homeless.

The fact is that in the US getting a job is harder than ever, there is more competition, there is much more anti-revolutionary science including social filters, psychological operations, diseducation, 'pulling up the ladder' by older generations, ideological state apparatus of exploitative society, ultra-regulation, all founded on a rentier economy that reduces opportunity systematically for profit. Anarchists have more or less succeeded in pressing religious organizations to provide food, and mutual aid networks for free distribution of information through the web, as well as tolerance for homelessness camps and living in one's car, but have failed in creating opportunities for work and housing, which are what really matter for proletarian reproduction. Ultimately, unemployment, lack of housing, and mass immigration are weapons used by the bourgeoisie to keep down variable capital costs and maximize their income from rent.

Communism is free time and nothing else but also the ability to change the world for the better and be a meaningful part of their community, so its a good idea for the declassed to volunteer their labor socially instead of isolating themselves.

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>>2296965
learn what words mean

>>2296971
>Communism is free time and nothing else but also the ability to change the world for the better and be a meaningful part of their community, so its a good idea for the declassed to volunteer their labor socially instead of isolating themselves.
nice lib mythologizing

>>2296968
>except that they would just outsource the labor market to cheap expendable foreign labor and increase prices for everything forcing us to work again

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NEETs are very cool.
t. NEET

>>2265525
being unemployed does not make you lumpen

>>2265525
Enjoy being a neet more than working. I'm borne of the lower classes so any work i do is physical labour, when NEET'ing I eat better, sleep better, have time to read, have more time to be involved in Palestine solidarity stuff for example, and so and so on.


>>2347317
>I'm borne of the lower classes
this is irrelevant to you clearly being a petit bourgeois today

>>2265632
because without work nobody would be able to eat, raise children, or do the things that gives life meaning

>>2265632
>putting work in a pedestal
its not a matter of morals, if you arent working then you arent part of the proletarian movement

>>2296992
Outsourcing is historically progressive and benefits the struggles of the international proletariat.


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