[ overboard / sfw / alt / cytube] [ leftypol / b / hobby / tech / edu / games / anime / music ] [ meta ] [ GET / ref]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internets about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Email
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password (For file deletion.)


File: 1620451144848.png (3.37 KB, 242x300, nmlogolargewhite-1-242x300.png)

 No.231028

>>

 No.231284

Also, if people could share effortposts that might be suitable for an article they can do so here
>>

 No.231329

bumperino
>>

 No.231620

File: 1620487824001-0.png (1.18 MB, 1351x2151, The coming Liberal Autocra….png)

File: 1620487824001-1.png (1.03 MB, 1404x2215, Why Capitalism is bad.png)

>>231284
I have some effortposts saved, that are long enough for an article. Just posting 2 for now. Do they fit your wishes?
>>

 No.231665

File: 1620489171149.jpg (22.9 KB, 390x365, 1561078905534.jpg)

I think new multitude is kool
>>

 No.231715

>>231284
Reminder or for anybody who is new, you can crosslink any post on the same board the same way you reply to a post, with the two >> and the number. If you want to crosslink a post on a different board, you need three >>> followed by the board's name like /edu/ and then the number.

For example here's a link to a post about Venezuela in the latin america thread (here on /leftypol/)
>>133069

And here's a link to a post about dialectics and Chinese philosophy on /edu/
>>>/edu/1412
>>

 No.231774

>>231715
TY Based >> Anon
>>

 No.231790

>>231665
i seee you
>>

 No.231831

Bumping
>>

 No.232053

Hi, editor here, thanks op for making this thread.

I'd really like to work on expanding NM, but I'm quite busy with other work right now, but I'm happy that we have recently published work from Malaysian and Nigerian comrades.

If anyone would like to help co edit please let me know. you can message me through Twitter @newmultitude something I've thought about recently is looking for through medium.com for new writers who might be willing to let us republish their stuff, so if anyone would like to help scout that, that would be cool.

As for the idea of taking leftypol posts. I still really like the idea, but it's a lot more complex than simply copy pasting from here to there. It takes time to edit and you end up realising that many leftypol posts are great but need a bit more bulk to them to make a proper article. Nevertheless I'm still open to people posting links here. One thing I've not had much success with is when someone makes a really insightful post, I've occasionally asked them if they would like to write something on the subject for nm,but this has never really worked. If anyone has any ideas let me know
>>

 No.238675

File: 1620713489364.png (132.02 KB, 613x622, 52E706D1-F43D-45DB-B771-5E….png)

Do you have anything big planned or just trying find people who have written interesting stuff
>>

 No.238771

>>231028
Would people be interested in marxist Medieval history? Only thing I can contribute that could be unique/interesting
>>

 No.238774

>>238771
yeah sounds cool
>>

 No.238778

>>

 No.238780

File: 1620717722088.jpg (31.56 KB, 300x400, idi-amin-shirt-conquerer-b….jpg)

>>

 No.238866

>>238675
Are you offering to write for Multitude the not at all acclaimed communist e-newspaper, Scott Wozniak?
>>

 No.238894

>>238771
I want more of this to be honest.
>>

 No.238994

That article about the LTV in Runescape was hilarious

>>238771
definitely, this shit is super interesting. Caliban and the Witch was awesome
>>

 No.239001

>>231028
Is there a way I can subscribe to a news letter or something?
>>

 No.243063

>>238994
I haven't forgotten this article and will put it back up eventually
Sorry to the anon who wrote it that I haven't done this yet
>>

 No.252801

>>239001
No, but sometimes people post new articles here.
>>

 No.280617

bump
>>

 No.280797

Editor here, thinking about starting a podcast with writers talking about their articles. But I do need more content. There's a lot of people on leftypol writing effort posts but I have no way of contacting them, so please do get in contact if you want to write something
>>

 No.280824

>>232053
Maybe just make "top three effort posts of the week/month" on the site and just post the screenshots to add to the authenticity of an off-the-cuff opinion from the userbase
>>

 No.300112

Bumping
>>

 No.308135

>>280797
Idm.

t. Debbs.
>>

 No.326970

bump
>>

 No.327060

>>232053
You still want somebody to write an introduction to Cybersocialism and Cockshott thought?

I've never written an article before but I don't mind having a crack at writing "Principles of Cybersocialism" or something like that
>>

 No.334638

>>327060
just write it
>>

 No.347565

A bump for leftypol's article site.
>>

 No.347793

Editor here,

I need more people to submit! One bounty I am searching for is a summary of the Cockshott/Hegel debate. there are clearly intelligent people on this board who could write this summary, I need people to convince them to do it!

We have two new articles coming soon this week, including, hopefully an interview with the UK's greatest living marxist.







>>308135
intelligent dance music?

>>327060

yes please. write down what you can and send it to me, and then I'll be able to help you edit it. (this also goes for everyone who is thinking of writing something, don't worry about whether it won't look good, my role as editor is to help get your writing to publishable form, just write!)
>>

 No.348193

>>347793
>hopefully an interview with the UK's greatest living marxist
Cockshott?
>>

 No.348244

File: 1625080092539-0.png (187.06 KB, 2066x2260, leftypol_face.png)

File: 1625080092539-1.png (185.22 KB, 2066x2260, leftypol_faceb&w.png)

File: 1625080092539-2.png (176.76 KB, 2066x2260, leftypol_anon.png)

Hey, just popping into so you can still use the assets I made for you for the website.
That would be cool to see.
>>

 No.348251

>>347793
>intelligent dance music?
i don't mind.
>>

 No.348328


>>348244
thanks, I added it to the footer logo! I'm not techically literate so doing fancy stuff with css doesn't come naturally to me!

>>348193
nope

>>348251
Ok, yes I need to get on top of some work over the next couple of months, but after that we can organise to have a chat then
>>

 No.349147

>>348328
You should totally have that Malaysian editor with Debbs.
>>

 No.349153

>>347793
> One bounty I am searching for is a summary of the Cockshott/Hegel debate
What do you mean? The videos/comment section in Cockshott's vid, or the thread?
>>

 No.349164

>>231028
that logo looks like 2 dudes holding hands but ones dick is hanging out and he is guiding the other ones hand towards it
you can't tell me i'm the only one who sees that
>>

 No.349230

>>349153
I think he means the thread
>>

 No.349232

>>349153
Just a summary of the debate, thread etc

The thread seems really interesting as far as getting to the fundamentals of Marxism and I'd like to see a balanced summary of what people are arguing. It could definitely make reference to cockshotts videos and comments on them too
>>

 No.349331

new post: the article is a marxist take on friends but then takes a detour to explain why we need to locate cultural analysis in a material economy, specifically in this case the "global" economy. Looks at cultural production, Coffee trade chains and rwanda too.


It's an essay that has a really wide scope, and I'd appreciate some feedback on it.

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/348213.html
>>

 No.349335

File: 1625135761322.png (1.51 MB, 1796x2413, Screenshot 2021-07-01 at 1….png)

I translated into English a couple of chapters from an untranslated book by Losurdo where he talks about Žižek. I don't if it's suitable for publishing but it would be cool!
>>328470
>>

 No.349339

>>349335
that would quite awesome, could you email me the text?
>>

 No.349346

>>349339
Absolutely
>>

 No.349371

>>349346
great! if you could include like a little introduction to Losurdo for people who aren't familar that would help readers get the context
>>

 No.349376

>>349371
I can do a few lines of introduction to the author and maybe explain the context for the book since this is an excerpt.
>>

 No.349386

>>349376
yes that would be great! Also a little bio of yourself too would be nice if you want to promote your own stuff or twitter or whatever. Or just a pseudonym and a brief description. e.g. Super Mario works in Sweden as a firefighter. As well as translating he enjoys pina coladas and getting caught in the rain.
>>

 No.363083

Should leftypol at some point be ooen to donations to pay for tge site and articles?
>>

 No.369236

>>349376
>>349376
Just following up on this? It's [email protected] if you want to send it through
>>

 No.369467

>>231028
Hey, so I was actually the anon who wrote the Settlers review, it was before I recently started posting regularly under this flag. To be quite frank, I wrote it in a bit of a hurry on a Sakai thread one night, and while I still stand by what I said in the article, there's a couple points which I've since reconsidered and realized that I feel should give a more critical, albeit still nuanced, review.

1. The Foster misquote is simply unforgivable, and just reflects sloppy scholarship to give a more biting critique. That should already significantly weaken its standing as a revolutionary text. I only learned about this misquote after I wrote my review, and while I still think that the analyses of CPUSA chauvinism are valid (such as in the case of Puerto Rico), the case does not need to be made through misrepresentation of a man like Foster. Some anons have also stated that the history of the Socialist Party of America is also misleading, which is something I can't personally comment on, but perhaps a Debs-buff among us can set the record straight.

2. I think, for a work that is supposedly in the tradition of world-systems theory and critical of labor aristocracies, that the work is too focused on domestic labor aristocracies, and does not instead consider the broader American labor aristocracy. While yes, African Americans, Latinos, and other marginalized groups largely provide surplus labor for the white working class, it is worth noting that, should we accept that as fact, such an analysis should also indict all the workers of America, including exploited minorities, for subsisting off of third-world labor. It really doesn't make sense to solely indict white workers for subsisting off of black labor, when all American labor, regardless of race, subsists off of Latin American, African, and Asian labor. Again, this isn't to say that a critique of the revolutionary potential of white works is wrong, it's been the pretty standard Marxist position that colonized and marginalized groups generally are at the forefront of the global revolution, but I think such an analysis is incomplete without fully considering the broader American labor aristocracy alongside the particular white labor aristocracy. At the very least, it gives it much more nuance.

3. I feel the book is outdated in its analysis, being written in an America that had not yet met the wrath of neoliberalism. As so much of the previously comfortable white working class has lost its organized labor and Keynesian benefits, I do feel that their has been a surge in revolutionary potential, for both whites and nonwhites, that may be able to build anti-racist solidarity. Granted, a good portion of the white working class outrage has gone to causes like Trump, so perhaps Sakai is right in depicting white working class struggle as veering towards reaction, but still, were the book to receive an addendum, I think these neoliberal issues would be worth analyzing. I know that Sakai has apparently conducted a revisiting of the book, which I have not yet listened to, so I hope these issues are addressed within it.

I still stand by the idea that Settlers is an overly-maligned book that people wrongly associate with views like those of BHO. I still don't think the book is reactionary, and I do think a lot of its indictments of white working-class movements are both valid and extremely valuable. I agree with Hakim in giving it a positive review, and I genuinely think we need something like Settlers: a Third-Worldist analysis of a country's particular distribution of labor along domestic ethnic lines. Still, the flaws I just listed make Settlers a decent yet flawed work to fill such a need, and hopefully, a better version of a work like Settlers will come along to take its place. Either way, as a tldr; just don't read Settlers without a grain of salt and some Hinterlands as a useful companion piece.
>>

 No.372098

>>369467
Thanks, do you want me to edit in your additions?
It might be easier if you just copy the published text, edit it and then send me the full updated version?

I also really appreciated your review. It was really balanced and hit the exact right notes of levity and seriousness. Would you be interested in writing something else? Review or article?
>>

 No.378095

>>372098
Sure, I would be perfectly happy to re-edit my original to include these new thoughts. In the mean time, you have my blessing if you'd just like to post my response as an addendum.

And yes, I would absolutely love to write more articles. I could do more reviews, but I'd prefer to do more original articles. Issues such as Palestine (per my flag), world-systems analysis, and disability rights are particularly close to my heart, if any of those topics would be of use.
>>

 No.382194

>>378095
Yes definitely, all those issues would be welcome.

Could you elaborate on your 'pitch' for each one, like what could you bring to the table re: Palestine or disability rights that you feel is under-represented in the discourse.


as far as World Systems theory goes, what theorists would you be looking at?
>>

 No.382349

>>369467
As the guy that tracked down Sakai's Foster quote, I don't know if this might help you but:
https://theculturedmarxist.tumblr.com/post/183085686318/encyclopedia-britannica-wikipedia-spartacus

I thought it had links to the sources I used, but tumblr is a piece of shit that tends to eat hyperlinks. It seems like the page numbers coincide with what can be found here: https://gutenberg.org/files/36032/36032-h/36032-h.htm#Page_208

You might not have the disdain for Sakai that I do, but I hope this might help. Other good information can be found here: https://thecharnelhouse.org/?s=sakai&submit=Search
>>

 No.385853

>>382194
Sure. For Palestine, I'm the leader of a major Palestinian student org, so I feel that I could bring an interesting perspective not only on what is going on in Palestine, but also on the various facets of Palestinian activism. In particular, I'd like to particularly condemn and critique the attempts at far-right infiltration of the movement, as well as those who are more concerned with Muslim identity than any sort of cohesive anti-imperialist principles. For disability rights, I think the subject has gone critically underdiscussed on this board, especially when most of us are on the spectrum. I think a piece exploring modern eugenics, the alienation of the disabled, and the social model of disability could really resonate with our community. As for World Systems Theory, I mainly draw upon the work of Samir Amin, Immanuel Wallerstein, and Walter Rodney, Minqi Li, and the rest of the "Monthly Review school", so to speak.
>>

 No.387364

>>385853
That all sounds great.

Don't know much about Palestine, but what you suggested sounds interesting. If you're going to argue against the culturalist/islamist side to the activism, it would also be good to highlight where you think the positive activism is coming from too.

Definitely think the disability is understudied on leftypol. I think perhaps it's often just seen as a idpol optional extra. I think modern eugenics is an extremly important and grim area that needs bringing to the fore, especially when in all spheres of production, people are increasingly thought of in terms of their (capitalist) productive value.

World Systems Theory is also good. I don't know if you saw it, but we just published an article (https://newmultitude.org/friends-coffee-and-genocide-the-limits-of-globalization/) that looks at how cultural products connect to commodities in the world system. Would be happy to have any article that looks at these theories, are you familiar with John Smith too?

It might be easier to communicate via twitter if you want to, but no worries if you don't have or want an account. Hope to hear from you soon!
>>

 No.394058

File: 1626965931385.png (184.6 KB, 800x400, runescapemarx.png)

new post up today..the excellent look at the labour theory of value and why we can't apply it to video game economies like Runescape by Comrade Rat.

is there some kind of "lefty vidya" subreddit someone could post this too?


https://newmultitude.org/runescape-marxism-and-video-game-economies/
>>

 No.395760

>>394058
Interesting read, would be nice if the writer did analyze the price changes in nature runes, law runes, iron ore, food to see how more applicable LTV is.
>>

 No.396883

File: 1627073771498.pdf (80.88 KB, 232x300, Vincent J - Towards a New ….pdf)

Hi, author of the Settlers review, finally back with my promised updated version. I think it's far, far better, especially as my other one was nothing more than a rushed effortpost. To the Editors of New Multitude, you have my full permission to add this article to your site, and I'd actually quite appreciate it if you replace the old review with this new one, particularly as I am not too happy with my old one. In this document, I also give the name I'd like used in place of "JTP", which was an acronym I had previously used in the spur of the moment. I hope you like it, and to any anons in the thread, I'd love feedback.
>>

 No.396911

>tfw all the effortposts on /leftypol/ get forgotten after 5 hours or so
>tfw all the dumb stupid shit on /pol/ is kept forever in an archive contaminating the internet and humanity itself for years to come.
>>

 No.420860

bumping this thread
>>

 No.421410

>>396883
Cheers this looks great. Will put it up soon.

Would you be interested in writing some more stuff for us? You're obviously well read and knowledgable and we need some talented writers to help grow the site.
>>

 No.421412

>>421410
just nuke someone for god sake it I dont want to be reminded of all that garbage
>>

 No.421699

>>421410
Sure, I'd love to! Is there anything in particular you're looking for? I'm personally rather tempted to write a piece on autism from a Marxist lens, especially given the recent Chris Chan debacle.
>>

 No.421715

>>421410
I would also like to!
>>

 No.422498

>>421699
that sounds like it might be filling a gap. I know nothing about the Chris Chan debacle though, so make sure you at least give us a brief summary of it in the lead in.

Definitely would like to read something on that subject though.
>>

 No.422500

Jannies, can you help us pin this?
>>

 No.422571

>>421715
Thanks again for this, this is high quality stuff and I'm really pleased to have it as part of the mag.

a couple of minor edits:

you call Sakai an 'absolute nobody'. please forgive me for changing this to "obscure author'. Let us not deride people for only having published one book!


>"Black Hammer, among others, have all taken a Sakai-esque path of divorcing themselves entirely from even the idea of a white proletariat,"


changed to
>Black Hammer, among others, seem to define what some people might call emergent Sakaiism, an epistemological divorce from the idea of a white proletariat.


>Unfortunately for Sakai, while I would not directly place the blame on him as a theorist, has still significantly contributed to the modern trend of anti-Marxist, reactionary demagogues who masquerade as revolutionaries.


(I wanted to retain the use of Nazbol, because I think it's provocative in the right way. I shared your original article in a fanonist group I'm in and some people got really riled up by it. :)

change to

>Unfortunately for Sakai, while I would not directly place the blame on him as a theorist, these interpretations of his work have significantly contributed to the modern trend of anti-Marxist, reactionary Nazbol-esque demagogues who masquerade as revolutionaries


(I wanted to retain the use of Nazbol, because I think it's provocative in the right way. I shared your original article in a fanonist group I'm in and some people got really riled up by it. :)

You mention that Black Hammer "recently celebrated Marx’s death and called him a “cracker” and a thief of black ideas," Do you have a source for this? Not doubting you, but I imagine this is the kind of provocative detail that people will jump on and as an Editor I need to do some diligence here to make sure this is correct. Can you also give me a brief bio. e.g. "J Vincent works on the Deathstar and is into flower pressing and craft beer"


As an aside, I think you might like this recent article on Critical Race Theory from a marxist perspective https://samkriss.com/2021/06/25/whats-so-bad-about-critical-race-theory/
>>

 No.422579

>>422500
The jannies are too busy dilating and pinning stupid shit on /b/ to care about the main board.
>>

 No.422597

>>422579
Lol
The reason I want them to pin this is because leftypolers can make news articles through their viewpoint.
>>

 No.422599

>>422597 (continued)
Without having to write bump here and there.
>>

 No.422610

>>349335
Hi Losurdo translatior Anon…are you still able to send me this text?

I can't see the link anymore…
>>

 No.422616

File: 1628074877527.png (110.96 KB, 500x620, settlers.png)

>>

 No.422617

File: 1628074877525.png (110.96 KB, 500x620, settlers.png)

>>

 No.422625

>>422610
Sorry I've been out of the country for work reasons, it's been quite a hectic period. I should be able to get in touch with you soon. :)
>>

 No.422661

>>422617
>>422616
amazing. I'll read it in a bit.
>>

 No.422701

>>422617
So the conclusion is Settlers sucks enough that you have to read Hinterland along side it, to compensate for that. Why try so hard to rehabilitate Sakai, why not just read what Adolf Reed writes instead ?
>>

 No.422723

>>

 No.422743

>>422625
no worries, just wanted to make sure I hadn't forgotten about this!
>>

 No.422844

I'm making an article about global anticommunism and its effect, may I?
>>

 No.422873

>>422571
Hi, just getting back to you now. I think those edits are perfectly fine, I have no problem with them. For the point about BlackHammer, here's their twitter tirade where they said all those things about Marx:
https://twitter.com/blkhmmrtimes/status/1390110537867042819?lang=en
And for my bio, I guess a good one would be:
"Vincent J is an American pro-Palestine activist and Marxist. He is currently an economics student and part-time farmhand."

>>422701
To be quite honest, I'm not familiar with Adolf Reed, although from a cursory look at his bio, he seems to be a social-democrat who critiques the role of liberal identity politics in progressive movements. While he seems very interesting, and I will be checking him out further, what I particularly found of value in Settlers, in spite of all its flaws, was its attempt to conduct a materialist analysis of what he believed to be a white labor aristocracy, similar to the analysis of Israeli society conducted by the Matzpen group. Of course, Settlers fell very flat, but I can't help but feel that its original thesis is still worth exploring, and in its pursuit of its thesis, it still does occasionally make some very valuable critiques.
>>

 No.424919

>>395760
the article is definitely really well written by someone who understands LTV, but I also don't know anything about Runescape, so I don't know if the examples at the start, about sausages and bread are relevant to the game
>>

 No.424922

>>422844
sure, I'll take a look

Unique IPs: 39

[Return][Go to top] [Catalog] | [Home][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ overboard / sfw / alt / cytube] [ leftypol / b / hobby / tech / edu / games / anime / music ] [ meta ] [ GET / ref]