No.268992[Last 50 Posts]
Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.htmldprkDPRK No.548283
>>547996You must be new here. There is not a single instance in this thread nor the China thread of people claiming NYT/BBC to be credible sources, nor are these particularly respected elsewhere on this board. You are making up a position, finding no evidence for it, only evidence to the contrary. Instead of fundamentally revising what you believe, you then construct a flip-flopping character, flipping back and forth between the shit you got in your head about this place before arriving and what you see actually getting said on here by the regulars.
>>548258>Now, do you have any good reason to believe Walk Free is not credible?The claim that Germany and Scandinavia have a bigger problem with slave-like living conditions seems absurd on the face of it. The US have an absolutely gigantic program of prison labor, so whatever concept of
slavery-like conditions the WF project is working with must give little to no weight to that in order to get that sort of result.
As for Yeonmi Park, the person writing the NK section in the WF report Stacked Odds, see the vid related.
No.548300
>>548258because it's funded by a porky who prob fabricated all of those data because the bastard can't profit in North Korea and have actual child slaves there?
Also the US and american billionaires are famous for creating fake news regarding DPRK.
No.548840
can someone tell me how the workers in the DPRK have control over the MOP? Thanks
No.548904
>>548840Through comitees and worker's councils
No.548907
>>548840That's the thing, they don't
No.548924
>>548907this. they don’t even have a system where every worker votes on how many pencils to make. basically fascism.
No.549327
>>548904>Only one candidate on the ballot in each constituency that's pre-selected by the government>WPK gets like 90% of the vote every timeThese workers' councils likely have no real power, unless you're willing to elaborate on how they do in fact.
No.549421
Dark Society Where Virtue And Affection Are Withering Awayhttp://www.mfa.gov.kp/en/dark-society-where-virtue-and-affection-are-withering-away/Respecting and taking good care of the elderly and holding them up as seniors of the family and society are noble virtue and universal ethics of human society.
Contrary phenomena, however, are widespread in the Japanese society where the aged are subjected to maltreatment, contempt and abuse, far from receiving deserved attention and care of the family and society. They are thus spending the remaining years of their lives in misery, misfortunes and sufferings, prompting the public astonishment.
According to the related data, nearly 6,500 people aged 65 and over committed suicide in 2018 alone.
It is no mere coincidence that the Japanese media reported that it is becoming a household phrase among the aged that “life in retirement is tantamount to a probationary period.”
A dark society is not something abstract.
It is the society bereft of love, virtue and affection toward humans, where human beings are turning bestial, being reduced to the slaves of capital.
Cha Hye Gyong
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, DPRK
No.549430
Society Forsaken by People Ruinshttps://dprktoday.com/abroad/news/30584The world has long been locked in fierce ideological debates and showdown over the issue of which society represents the future of mankind: socialism or capitalism.
The capitalist production mode by which capitalism has prolonged its days by dint of sweat and blood shed by the people has reached the limit to breathe its last.
As a result, the gap between the rich getting ever richer and the poor getting ever poorer has now become extreme.
Contradiction and antagonism between a tiny handful of the privileged and the popular masses are growing day by day in the capitalist society where the differentiation of society and the gap between the rich and the poor have come to their limits, signaling great social eruption.
The fate of capitalism going downhill is an inevitable result stemming from inhuman and unpopular individualism.
Individualism appeared on the stage of history as the product of outdated social system based on private ownership and as the idea of serving the ruling class who can not exist without exploiting others. It, therefore, makes people extremely self-interested beings and money slaves controlled by material desire.
It is as clear as noonday that in such society each person's dignity and worth can not be respected and the burgeoning distrust, antagonism, hatred and hostile relations would split society and lead it to destruction.
No matter how much the bourgeois advocates try to beautify capitalist society, they can never cover up its reactionary nature that goes against the aspiration and the intrinsic demand of the popular masses.
It is the inevitability of history and a law governing social development that capitalism finds itself falling deeper into the abyss of ruin as it goes fundamentally counter to the independent nature of mankind and mercilessly tramples down the demand of the people for genuine rights and happy life.
Capitalism Has No Futurehttp://rodong.rep.kp/en/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2019-12-03-0011Even though the Western politicians and media under their thumb idealize capitalism, advertising that it is a “typical example” of sustained development and prosperity whenever an opportunity presents itself, they can never cover up the social evils precipitating its ruin.
The gap between the rich and the poor, unemployment, moral decay, etc. are the cancer of capitalism and its fate is destined to sink like a setting sun.
The gap between the rich and the poor, unemployment and moral decay are not a passing phase but the fatal one jolting the root of the capitalist system.
Capitalism has maintained its existence while pretending to be a “model” of economic growth and “modern civilization” but is now driven into a tight corner.
The phenomenon in which the rich get richer and the poor poorer, moral decay, social disintegration and public discontent get more serious and grow larger, driving capitalism into a crisis.
The Western world is making desperate efforts to check the collapse of capitalism but it cannot stop capitalism going downhill with anything.
Capitalism at Its Evening Twilighthttps://rodong.rep.kp/en/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2019-10-07-0006Advocates of capitalism slander socialism and preach the “eternity” of capitalist society more often than not. But the world sees it festering and falling like the setting sun.
The capitalist society is by no means the utopia of humankind but dark society without future.
Capitalism, fraught with serious contradiction, is doomed to ruin.
Outwardly, the developed capitalist countries seem flourishing but they are in decay due to daily worsening contradiction.
In capitalist society, political life is rendered reactionary and material life deformed.
The corrupt nature of capitalism finds its vivid manifestation in the political life of people.
No genuine political freedom and rights can be found in this society where capitalist class rules everything and the toiling working masses are left out of political life.
A handful of the privileged class holds control of the majority of social assets which are being snowballed each day. On the other hand, the broad toiling masses are exposed to constant worries about job, medical care, housing, food and children’s education.
The moral degeneration of man is the clearest expression of capitalism now at its evening twilight.
The pauperization in spiritual and cultural life and the degeneration of human beings have spiraled beyond control in capitalist society now.
In such a society it is impossible to stay clear of inequality in material life, imbalance between material life and spiritual and cultural life and imbalance between the increasing demand of the popular masses for independence and worsening political life.
No.549456
>>549327>Only one candidate on the ballot in each constituency that's pre-selected by the government>WPK gets like 90% of the vote every timeFor what I know, the party and locals discuss who should the candidates be.
>WPK gets like 90% of the vote every timeIt's the largest party
>basically fascismkys
No.549507
>>549456>For what I know, the party and locals discuss who should the candidates be.Where does it say that?
>It's the largest party<It gets so much of the vote because it's the largest partyCircular explanation there. It's suspicious that one party, out of several, gets almost all the vote.
>basically fascismI literally never said this, who are you quoting?
No.549983
>>549507>Where does it say that?Just do some research, moron. Do you know what socialism is?
http://solidariedadecoreiapopular.blogspot.com/2011/08/coreia-ditadura-x-democracia.htmlIt's in portuguese. Google translate it.
>It's suspicious that one party, out of several, gets almost all the vote.Apparentely that's not allowed by you? Also there are plenty of independent politicians
>I literally never said this, who are you quoting?This guy
>>548924 who is a moron
No.550014
>>549983>http://solidariedadecoreiapopular.blogspot.com/2011/08/coreia-ditadura-x-democracia.htmlWho is this dude and why should we believe what he says? And is there really nobody else but this Portuguese man?
>Apparentely that's not allowed by you? Also there are plenty of independent politiciansNothing is for certain but I did say it was suspicious that almost everyone votes the same way. There seems to be some sort of coercion or other illegitimacy going on because even within a socialist framework people have different ideas, backgrounds, views, etc. This thing about ~90% of the vote going to one party is what happens in dictatorships.
No.550035
>one party dictatorship
have you ever considered that opposition does not need to come from outside the party, american
No.550132
>>550035>one party dictatorshipREEEEEEE YOU NEED MULTIPARTY TO HAVE DEMOCRACY
<one party actually has multiple factions inside it that argue and bicker with each other its just that unlike the chaotic mess that is multiparty democracy, a one party "dictatorship" encourages democractic centralism and unity and thus gets shit done as seen in china No.550266
>>550014>There seems to be some sort of coercion or other illegitimacy going on And why do you say that? Why does it seem to have some type of coercion? People can still have different views even inside the party.
>Who is this dude and why should we believe what he says? And is there really nobody else but this Portuguese man?Some poeple research about North Korea I guess
No.558538
Murdered half-brother of Kim Jong Un was working for South Korean spy agency: reportSince Kim Jong Nam's murder and the trial of the two women who applied VX nerve agent to his face, suspicions have also been raised about connections to the CIAhttps://nationalpost.com/news/world/murdered-half-brother-of-kim-jong-un-was-working-for-south-korean-spy-agency-reportSince his face was smeared with nerve agent in Kuala Lumpur airport, mystery has surrounded the hit job that brought down the half-brother of Kim Jong Un, North Korea’s leader.
But new revelations suggest the murdered one-time heir to the North’s despotic regime had been working for the intelligence agency of Pyongyang’s main enemy: South Korea.
Kim Jong Nam was long believed to have fallen out of favor with the regime at home, having been forced into exile after being caught with a fake passport en route to Tokyo Disneyland.
Since his murder and the trial of the two young women who applied VX nerve agent to his face on a piece of cloth, suspicions have also been raised about connections to the CIA.
But now current and former officials at South Korea’s National Intelligence Service (NIS) claim Kim was using connections in the North to feed information to the South on matters such as his half-brother’s health and nuclear ambitions — and that he was paid for doing so.
“Kim provided the NIS with information on trends within the government and the powers of the regime’s most high-ranking officials, including Kim Jong Un, for five or six years before his death,” Seoul Broadcasting System (SBS) reported.
They added that Kim “raised the question of the possibility of asylum in South Korea”, although the South Korean side apparently hoped to avoid that on grounds “it would put considerable burden on inter-Korean relations.”
No.558558
>>547948>DPRK is a long-lasting socialist country>DPRK is a nationalist authoritarian state>DPRK is essentially a monarchy>DPRK has abolished taxationAll of these are correct and they are why the DPRK is still standing & why it is the most based and redpilled state on earth.
No.558583
>>558538traitors deserve to die
No.558618
>>549507>It's suspicious that one party, out of several, gets almost all the vote.Only if you believe they are doing a bad job. If they are doing a good job, why would people vote for somebody else?
People in the west are so used to dysfunctional governance they can't wrap their heads around the idea that there is somewhere in the world where the great majority of the people support one party that actually acts in their interest and successfully carries out policies that they want.
No.559412
>>558637What is this from? Seems like its a piece of an interesting documentary.
No.559487
>>558637Is this is a Chinese national talking to a North Korean tour guide?
No.559530
>>558637>they walk hand in hand because they're friendskek
No joke, imagine if they started doing state-sponsored gay pride parades in NK, I'd like to see how the western press would spin it.
No.559557
fuck is the difference between Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism and Juche?
No.559558
>>558637>2 random guys>le gay is le bourgeois degeneracy>no argument given for whyI'm sure none of you think this is convincing.
I doubt the DPRK is homophobic compared to the south, especially considering that the communist world has historically been much more progressive than anywhere else when it comes to LGBT rights.
No.559666
>>559558>>558637Chongryon, the main pro-DPRK organization of Japan-resident Koreans is not against the gays/lesbians etc. and teaches about them in the schools they run for Koreans.
From their official news site Choson Sinbo (in Japanese):
https://www.chosonsinbo.com/jp/2016/12/sk1222-3/https://www.chosonsinbo.com/jp/2018/09/2018-0921khj/https://www.chosonsinbo.com/jp/2019/02/yyy-42/I doubt they would hold this position if the DPRK government was particularly against it.
(pic related is from Tokyo Korean Junior and Senior High School)
No.559682
>>559558>no argument given for whyThe argument implied is obviously the overt usage of LGBT issues for imperialism, with NGOs for LGBT rights being objectively tools for imperialism. Same with "human rights", but now that LGBT has been accepted by the West it is used for that agenda too.
When North Korean dress modestly, don't make out on the street, don't wear highly sexualized bikinis and don't legalize porn, it must necessarily be an expression of anti-LGBR sentiment and sexism for the imperialist narrative.
No.559698
>>559666Yeah I'm not surprised
>>559682I could watch again but didn't they say something like 'gay people are weird and no one in the dprk is weird"? I'm sure straight couples hold hands and not just as a sign of friendship no?
No.559705
>>559698*no one in the dprk is gay
and something about it would seem bourgeois
No.559879
>>559682>NGOs for LGBT rights being objectively tools for imperialismCan you elaborate?
No.559896
>>559879You've already saw the connection already. Most of them are liberal-leaning, and when it comes to the King of all Liberals it would be…
THE UNITED STATES!!! No.560156
>>558558>DPRK is essentially a monarchyThis is the only incorrect one. It's not exactly a monarchy. More like a informal one. Nothing stops a non-Kim politician from becoming the Supreme Leader, but the system naturally put those of the family in the succession line.
No.560165
>>560045Those aren't human rights NGOs
No.560264
>>411255this is satire, right?
No.560280
>>411255Look at those eyes, dead inside.
No.560307
>>560278
Westerners simply can't resist the allure of north korean women.
No.562611
>>411255Regarding the defense minister "executed by anti-aircraft gun."
https://fair.org/home/wrong-as-often-as-right-is-good-enough-when-reporting-on-an-official-enemy/This is the most balanced analysis that I've found so far. Every other link is to sources breathlessly parroting hearsay from South Korean journalists that are parroting unconfirmed reports from South Korea's spy agency.
I really don't understand how people can just endlessly buy the outrageous, ridiculous stuff they hear about North Korea. Like, there's brutal and authoritarian, and then there's idiotic Cobra Commander-esque supervillainy that you'd have to be some kind of idiot to take at face value, like that time the West reported that Un fed one of his generals to his dogs, only for that general to turn up alive and well some time later. Oops.
No.563077
>>559954>>560275Honestly, having African friends I speak to on occasion, this is a pretty standard reaction to western shit.
I am inclined to think it can actually be helpful to the communist cause in the global south by showing the degenerate dead end of advanced capitalism.
I feel bad for the Koreans though, having to endure western hipsters. Nobody should have to suffer through that.
No.563121
>>386769>>387522It amazes that some Chinese company has not offered to invest and complete it since it would be quite the coup. Maybe because imperialist sanctions or because the DPRK government does not allow it.
No.563214
>>559954>>560275Oh my god. I just watched.
The absolute undiluted raw cringe.
Those poor Koreans… Nobody should ever have to be exposed to that level of late capitalist sickness.
Thank goodness for that interlude of the successful nuclear weapons test. I admit I claped with the Koreans. Hopefully the H-bomb gives them many more years of breathing room and independence from the liberal virus.
No.564738
Hey /dprk/, what should we fix here?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/North_KoreaI might actually try and make semi-srs educational changes just for kicks, like adding pictures of people eating ice-cream next to the 'starvation' section and showing the aquariums and waterparks. Even to their libtard target audience, that shit is fascinating and thought-provoking. and add citations you dogs No.565389
>>564738There's quite a lot on our own wiki:
https://leftypedia.org/wiki/DPRKYour idea sounds funny/good, go ahead with it
No.567040
Why does North Korea cut off Internet access to the outside world whereas China at least has the Great Firewall?
No.567102
>>567040For one, I don't think they would have the infrastructure for widespread internet access and if they had, they would make themselves completely vulnerable to cyper warfare. Besides, the internet is easily utilized as a massive softpower weapon by the West, it would create a massive challenge to counteract such an influence.
No.567466
>>560045>>560019This is fucking horrible, makes me feel more shame for my sexuality than being talked down for it ever does.
No.567539
>>567102>>567040I intranet is the way to for any up and coming socialist society honestly. No fear of cyber attacks, no bombardment with soft power, no pornography, no degenerate social media, etc.
a handful of actually practical and useful webpages and the means to send messages to friends and family. Honestly seems almost utopian compared to the cesspool that is the vile spawn of darpanet.
No.567550
>>567539>degenerate social mediawhat you doing here ?.
No.567561
>>567550Have you not been on Twitter?
Degenerate is the most fitting word for that site.
No.570792
https://menafn.com/1103063525/Food-crisis-in-North-Korea-Kim-Jong-Un-asks-people-to-eat-less-till-2025Food crisis in North Korea: Kim Jong Un asks people to 'eat less' till 2025yikes, commies no food as usual…
No.570799
>>567558
>most people hate porn
proofs
No.571297
The North Korean government has asked its citizens to watch what they eat until 2025. That’s when the country expects to reopen its border with China following the COVID-19 shutdown.
Citizens are already feeling the effects of the food shortages, as the nation’s food supply currently can’t meet the demand. And let’s not forget the soaring prices of just about everything.
Kim Jong Un’s ask, to eat less food and tighten their belts for at least another three years, is devastating to North Koreans who are already wondering how they’re going to see themselves through the winter.
>The food situation right now is already clearly an emergency, and the people are struggling with shortages.https://torontosun.com/news/world/starve-to-death-kim-jong-un-ordered-north-koreans-to-eat-less-food-until-2025/wcm/14fc18b9-0d33-41cb-8d02-2866e31b1383/ No.571316
>>571314Look up "North Korea food aid". You could spend all week and then some reading about all the help the North gets.
No.571317
>>571316You made the claim with no source tho
No.571320
>>571317The handful of sources I could link to you would just touch on the extensive aid North Korea gets. Just look it up. Nobody believes the North has food security.
No.571332
>>571325Despite this North Korea still gets literally thousands of tons of food and millions in aid from Russia, South Korea, Switzerland, Sweden, Canada, etc. The country's problems are real, and people are in fact hungering.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48637518 No.571333
>>571316North Korea is already self-reliant on food. Urban farming is heavily encouraged and grocery stores typically distribute old food, instead of throwing it away to maintain a profit motive. Any acceptances of food offers from the UN is simply adding free food to the already existing stockpile, paid for by the globalist imperialist suckers that actually believe that North Korea is a starving country.
No.571337
>>571332Yet America does not give them aid like you claimed. Do you think the USA has a role in starving the north Korean populace?
You start off your motte and Bailey by implying the us is not only aiding the DPRK, and by implication, also not actively undermining it.
Sad.
No.571343
>>571333>Any acceptances of food offers from the UN is simply adding free food to the already existing stockpile, paid for by the globalist imperialist suckers that actually believe that North Korea is a starving country.Those are some hefty stockpiles then, which contradicts the reports of hunger that several sources bring up. Where did you read that accepting food aid is just a trick?
No.571419
>>571338 (me)
I wouldn't want to live in North Korea though. I showed a video of those DPRK troops hitting each other with hammers as KJU and his sister watched giggling to my mom recently and she was like "gahh turn it off." She's cool because she's interested in this crazy stuff like me, but even that was a bit too much for her. Okay, those troops probably volunteered for that job, but abusing your body like that for the leader is some pretty extreme bullshit. Like, are you fucking kidding me?
Why is there a monarchy in this "communist" country? That doesn't make any sense. Frankly, I think the main reason the DPRK exists is because it's a buffer zone for China to keep the U.S. away. But if the U.S. really did pull out of South Korea and Asia, then there would be no reason for the country to exist anymore. Meanwhile, China does more trade with South Korea than with North Korea. They just don't want American troops on their border. That's why North Korea is a country. It's not because of some mystical Juche power. So, the DPRK is like a dog. Once upon a time, it wasn't so crazy and bitey, and actually helped scare off would-be burglars and you were even kind of proud of what a tough little sonofabitch he was. Now he's always barking, straining at the leash, trying to bite the neighbors, etc.
No.571537
>>571419see
>>547619Also your conception of North Korean aggression is exaggerated. While it does express enmity towards the South Korean and American governments, it does so out of projecting strength to avoid being attacked itself - to show that it's too spiky of a hedgehog to step on. Many times its nuclear tests appear unprovoked, but if you dig you will often find that not long before such a show of strength, the US will hold a joint-training with the south near the DMZ or something, which is partially used as a threat. It's like talking shit back to someone who stirs it up in the first place with yourself, so as to not be walked all over.
No.571602
>>570792Yep continuosly starving for 25 years. Will collapse any day now.
The nukes are fake. The factories are fake. The population hates socialism.
Your country should seriously invade. Victory guaranteed and mission accomplished.
Zero chance your sickness of a civilization is erased and the world purified of you via cleansing atomic fire.
No.571604
>>571601Raytheon being a tool of imperialism says nothing of the kind of workplace it is though.
No.571624
>>571604an NGO saying nothing about it being a tool of imperialism while praising and awarding it "best workplace" says something about what kind of NGO it is.
As does the same NGO going out of their way to denounce a (relatively) anti-imperialist candidate for "embracing an endorsement" of a podcaster in order to help an ensure an imperialist candidate defeats him.
No.571656
>>571626so they're a tool of imperialism because they think that helps them advance gay rights? ok, whatever. point made either way.
No.571659
>>571656sorry the smugtexting was meant for the other guy
as in they are imperialist and wearing rainbow helps advance their agenda, no more no less
No.571811
>>571297Given that statements by Kim Jong Un made in public are broadcasted by the state, how hasn't that shown up yet in their official media?
No.573138
>>573115
someone needs to put the fucking burger king crown on it
No.573556
Mokran TV, a YouTube channel which appears to be run from Pyongyang:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx0eTZwNNkMCyY1KB7vxbBQ/videosI guess this is the successor of the "Echo of Truth" channel which was taken down.
No.573815
>>573115
👌Byotiful.
No.574014
>>573095>South Korea glowsPoetic.
No.580360
>>580272they should try mushroom farming
No.580406
China, Russia Ask U.N. to End Sanctions so North Korea Can Import Bolts, Utensils, Vacuumshttps://www.newsweek.com/t-1645645China and Russia are asking the U.N. to end key sanctions against North Korea, according to the Associated Press, which obtained a draft resolution given to Security Council members.The resolution says that the sanctions should be lifted "with the intent of enhancing the livelihood of the civilian population" of North Korea. It also encourages North Korea and the U.S. to revive diplomatic discussions. The sanctions have been in place since 2006 and have become steadily tougher over the years.The new resolution calls on U.N. member nations to provide "goods, materials, technology, and financial services needed by North Korea to combat COVID-19, improve livelihoods, and develop the economy," according to the AP…Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said in 2018 that the sanctions had cut off all North Korean exports and 90 percent of its trade and disbanded the pool of workers that North Korea sent abroad to earn hard currency. No.580431
>>580380I need to do it, incase we have a soft collapse and it comes in handy
No.580497
>>580272Why are trying to pass them for desperate for wanting to eat rabbits?
No.580499
>>580497>why [loaded question]?another day on imageboards i see
No.580500
>>580499I know it's just propaganda, but rabbits are normally eaten all over the world. It's like saying "desperate north koreans turn to eating bread"
No.580570
>>580500that's so obvious that im not even sure it bears pointing out in this fashion anon, im a burger and some people i knew irl at one point in my life were rabbit farmers
No.580575
>>580500because she's on her period or something, her avatar is a rabbit, thats why she has reservations.
That being said, roasted rabbit is 10/10
If you can get your hands on some, do it. I trapped one and prepared it, very lean, extrmely tender. If north koreans eat rabbit for their protein, I would be extremely jealous.
No.580581
>>580575Not a fan of roasted rabbit, I prefer it cooked other ways.
No.580640
>>580575Yeah rabbit is terrific especially when properly marinated.
Condemning the Koreans for eating catfish, swans, rabbits is I think just western journalists trying to get a story via much ado about nothing.
Soon it will be "Shock and horror as sick north koreans visit hospital."
I mean we already have that documentary above where the fact that the Korean artists mostly produce realistic art depicting natural scenery is implied to be evidence of le ebil totalitarianizem.
No.580662
>>580640>>580640>I mean we already have that documentary above where the fact that the Korean artists mostly produce realistic art depicting natural scenery is implied to be evidence of le ebil totalitarianizem.Extremist of loles, link?
No.587796
>>587744I remember this from way back. Video is well over a decade old & the guy being executed was a human sex trafficker. He was trafficking teenage girls & young women with physical health issues into brothels throughout Asia under the guise of getting healthcare in south Korea or China.
Public executions of bottom of the barrel human scum & traitors like this is just a human being civilized reaction to this kind of fucked up behavior.
No.590078
>>589945Well they say it in the video
No.590404
>>587744not dissimilar to public executions in the US
>>587796death is the easy way out for people like this. it is no punishment at all
No.590429
>>590217>asking for a timestamp in a 2 minute videoYou must be a very busy man.
No.590488
>>590217just watch it
>>590404>not dissimilar to public executions in the USwhat do you mean?
No.590527
>>590488I mean that the US also does public executions
No.590557
>>590217>>587796>>589945>>590078The only info I could found was:
>On this date in 2005, at an outdoor trial near Yuson, North Korea, Han Bok-nam was sentenced to death for trafficking across the nearby Chinese border and immediately executed by firing squad.Looking for info on the
sex trafficking part.
No.590563
>>590527Yeah, but it's more institutionalized and biopoliticized. You see a dude being strapped into an electric chair or a bed and being injected by "professionals" the deadly dose or the electrocution handle being pulled by a guard, with a priest present, and so on. To the Western eye execution by firing squad appears "more brutal" because it is instantaneous, without much ceremony surrounding it, meanwhile, it's just simply more straight forward.
Spectacle very much related.
No.590740
>>590563well yeah, there's an attempt to sanitize the death penalty. also when you read about things like botched lethal injections and botched electrocutions, it really makes firing squad seem much much more humane. if you
really wanted to punish someone you'd do public torture. for weeks on end.
No.591520
No.591904
>>590557Cause just regular human trafficking is fine right?
No.592581
>>591904If you made a claim like
>>587796>the guy being executed was a human sex trafficker. He was trafficking teenage girls & young women with physical health issues into brothels throughout Asia under the guise of getting healthcare in south Korea or China.you better back it up.
<i don't need to prove shitYes you do. Quit being a faggot.
No.592827
>>592581https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utb4IOeZhUHere's another video on the subject. The NK officerl says they were trafficking women across the China border.
No.592833
>>592827>>592581>>587796It's funny because a women in the crowd during the video yells "carry out those executions!". So there's support for that kind of practice lmao
Also the guy holding camera says they were accused of human trafficking.
No.592841
>>592827you are still not proving the "sex trafficker" claim
stop responding to me if you can't provide evidence
No.592851
>>592841Are you actually retarded?
No.596233
>>593087and you dont need an account to post on leftypol. We could get north korean to post here !
also runs counter to the trad "dystopia dictatorship with no right" if they have complete internet access
No.596236
>>580120virgin capitalists when black swan
>economic crisischad dprk
>eats them No.596275
>>347189are you brazilian?
No.596279
>>347189pull of a successful insurrection,(in Tetris)
No.596574
<For decades the claims by North Korea and China of U.S. use of biological weapons have been dismissed precisely because the evidence came from Communist or supposed Communist-friendly sources. Existing evidence in U.S. archives was considered suggestive, but circumstantial. A military historian who examined the issue claimed that according to the secret record to which he was privy, the U.S. was incapable of waging biological warfare during the early 1950s.
<Meanwhile, in 1998, two Cold War scholars, Kathryn Weathersby and Milton Leitenberg, associated with the Woodrow Wilson Center, published documents, allegedly from former Soviet archives, detailing an elaborate hoax to manufacture false evidence of U.S. biological weapons attack.
<It wasn’t until September 2020 that evidence from U.S. archives was published that appears to definitively document U.S. BW attack. The evidence consists of declassified CIA communications intelligence reports, dozens of which quote U.S. Army intercepts of North Korean and Chinese military units describing “bacterial” attacks, including by use of insect vectors, in a style similar to that of Japan’s Unit 731 during World War II.https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/secret-history-u-s-2ac4c7219bd No.615375
>>544040And yet:
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/squidgame-11232021180155.html"North Korea has sentenced to death a man who smuggled and sold copies of the Netflix series “Squid Game”"
No.615430
>>615375>foreign media = death penaltyok explain why this was broadcast on national tv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffLRVthm4OE No.616221
>>615375don't worry, just like his ex girlfrend, general, and even himself he will reapear, because liberals loooove to make up histories to repeat like npcs to shit on the enemies of the US.
No.616379
>>615375>burger gubbmint propaganda outfitI ain't clicking that link can someone gib name and picture of alleged dead guy so we can laugh when Juche necromancy resurrects him
No.616925
Can there technically be a "socialist monarchy", since after all the Incans had a sort of monarch while they also had a sort of socialism? It could be a feudal holdover that functionally doesn't have any real effect on regular day to day administration.
>>522167That missile description, in original untranslated form, is probably the informal name, which, yes, is not supposed to be literally translated by each individual character.
No.622914
Are there any interviews with citizens of North Korea within the country? Or is that forbidden/unreliable?
No.629174
>>622914YouTube tends to delete that
Someone might have an archive of some of the best Korean vloggers like Echo of Truth that got yeeted
There were some man on the street interviews in there I think
No.629180
>>624065People will literally believe the earth is flat before believing that the america government. Lies about DPRK
No.629181
>>624065Really? Coat ban denial? Not a good look.
No.631151
>>629181Godddamnit, I hate libs.
No.635924
>>635886I want them to try more far out schemes to overcome their isolation.
Like drill a tunnel that connects to China where they put a fake business front over the tunnel exit as a front for trading. Or try the same on hard mode where they do the Tunnel trick but with the ROK.
Or build a submarine version of a cargo ship so they can do normal trade in international ports but once they go home they dive and dock in an underground port.
No.637022
>>635886Agricultural production has obviously improved within the last 10 years and malnourishment is no longer a problem, and though there have been issues recently due to floods as far as I know people are still getting fed. The country is very close to being self sufficient, and will probably become so in the next few decades. Due to a series of 5 year plans, light industry has been developed and amenities have increased. Millions of people now have smartphones. Non-communicable diseases are by far the largest cause of death, showing that the healthcare system is working as well as any western nation. Since 2017 both men and women are required to serve a term in the military, and gender discrimination is lower than in western countries. Military promotion is done by merit, with an officer corps almost completely made up from people promoted from private. There is 99% literacy in North Korea, compared to 71% literacy in AmeriKKKa. There is no unemployment and no homelessness whilst an 8 hour work day is maintained. Every household has a television and computer access is growing through communal computers, though still not common. Every family has a holiday home, even though they are probably built by the family. Workplaces have an hour or two of reading sessions at the end of the work day (something which I think lots of people on /leftypol/ need). Car ownership has visibly increased over the last 20 years, though it is impossible to find any figures on it. Electricity shortages are a problem and blackouts do happen, but Pyongyang at least is fully electicized. Some parts of the countryside are definitely poorer than the cities. Neoliberal propoganda claims that the GDP of the country is decreasing, even though it is clear that the standard of living has visibly increased drastically, and even then the country claims that the GDP has increased (I wonder who I trust…).
The country is no paradise at the moment, and it is still plagued by problems, but in many ways North Koreans live just as well as your average westernoid, and they are certainly better off than than people living in colonised countries. Despite problems I have with the leadership staying in one family, the government is overwhelmingly popular. This is all despite crippling and genocidal economic warfare waged by the USA.
No.637056
>>637022>Military promotion is done by merit, with an officer corps almost completely made up from people promoted from private.Can you source this?
No.637930
Does the DPRK incorporate cybernetics into its planning? It sounds feasible for them to do although I haven't heard this idea to be implemented.
No.640625
>>426032Name of documentary? I would love to watch it.
No.640931
>>637930no idea, but this topic has come up in /cybersoc/ I think
No.641106
>>640625loyal citizen of pyongyang in seoul
No.643170
>>624065I've never seen any photo of a non-military North Korea citizen wearing any type of leather jacket. You won't find any whether you scan through Kim Jong Il-era photos or modern ones, I'd like to be proven wrong. I suspect leather jackets, let alone the trench coat style, were never sold or worn in public to begin with in North Korea. So either leather jackets were always looked upon down as rebellious and were never worn in public like jeans or they were just never produced or imported into North Korea and were prohibitively expensive for anyone to purchase. Leather is not very practical clothing material, you can't wear it outside if it rains or snows, and there are more comfortable materials to wear indoors to stay warm; it's really just for fashion or if you're a fighter pilot.
If they did explicitly ban trench coat leather jackets they probably will make an exception for these type of jackets used as military uniforms like in these first two pictures if and only if Kim Jong Un isn't also in the photo op wearing his leather jacket.
No.644916
>>637594NKnews is one of the most impartial and authentic external sources on the DPRK
No.645072
video of DPRK cuisine example with some instructions included
>>642817check out some of the old Japanese leftist propaganda also, as those can also be quite similar in the aesthetic, of menace it'd seem but it is used in a good way, used.
No.646581
Can anyone give us an update on the DPRK's economy? I know that the party has said there are problems due to covid, as well as flooding.
>>646518rip
No.647554
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/world/asia/north-korea-kpop-executions.htmlNorth Korea Executes People for Watching K-Pop, Rights Group Says
At least seven people have been put to death in the past decade for watching or distributing K-pop videos, as the North cracks down on what its leader calls a “vicious cancer.”
SEOUL — North Korea has publicly executed at least seven people in the past decade for watching or distributing K-pop videos from South Korea, as it cracks down on what its leader, Kim Jong-un, calls a “vicious cancer,” according to a human rights report released on Wednesday.
The group, Transitional Justice Working Group, which is based in Seoul, interviewed 683 North Korean defectors since 2015 to help map places in the North where people were killed and buried in state-sanctioned public executions. In its latest report, the group said it had documented 23 such executions under Mr. Kim’s government.
Since taking power a decade ago, Mr. Kim has attacked South Korean entertainment — songs, movies and TV dramas — which, he says, corrupts North Koreans’ minds. Under a law adopted last December, those who distribute South Korean entertainment can face the death penalty. One tactic of Mr. Kim’s clampdown has been to create an atmosphere of terror by publicly executing people found guilty of watching or circulating the banned content.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
When are they going to run out of ideas?
Also, so many people are dying in North Korea, they probably have negative population at this point.
No.647761
>>635886Unironically the word's greatest leader.
No.648032
>>647554>North Korea Executes People for Watching K-Pop, Rights Group Saysbased
No.648061
>>648037It's the gas chambers of North Korea.
Instead of gas, they lure traitors with free kpop concert tickets. Then they kill them after the show.
One of the most expensive mass execution methods devised in history.
Pretty insane that the article by Neoliberal Times claiming k pop listeners are executed has as a cover an event of a state funded kpop concert, even sanctioned by Kim himself. It almost feels like by showing all their cards at once, they can get away with lying more easily.
No.649191
>>648044CHECK MATE ATHEISTS
No.649726
>>547649based molchat doma
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reply to me and i'll send you my tag
No.649753
>>649726You have to back.
No.651746
>>651648The reformist Kim Jong Un myth seems to have been finally put to rest. The hope wasn’t even a reform to western capitalism but Chinese style reform. Has the media given up on this because of the current tension between China and the United States?
No.652256
>>650955It's incredible people believe this shit.
No.652577
>>649753A E S T H E T I C#2776
this is my fbi.gov tag comrade
No.653962
>>652259This is probably another fairly big reason for why North Korea is portrayed as it is. Gaslighting people into thinking their struggles are in fact insignificant is a convenient narrative that exploiters in general use.
No.659463
>>485613It still makes me sad that the last vids she uploaded were if her clowning around having fun while shopping
As if that was a step too far for the western censors and her vlog had to be nuked
I wonder if the archive saved that video
No.663387
>>564738>>571325>>580406I believe in human dignity, and I hear that people deserve forgiveness for believing in their own government's propaganda, but I swear there is something peculiar about the Americans. Whenever I think of Americans the closest thing I see in my mind are Germans during WWII, a people who take their superiority over other people for granted and don't give a damn if people on the other side of the globe are starving because of their policy of extermination against the countries they deem to be "enemies".
I am pretty sure even Germans during WWII were less brainwashed than Americans and knew that the whole nazi trope was bullshit, they only ruled over for 12 years. But the Americans have believed their own lies for centuries now, is there still a way to convince them of the truth? Or is total nuclear or biological extermination the only thing that will put them back in their place?
No.666705
>>666702mao zedong king world donkey kong bong bong.
No.666894
>>666892Now he kinda looks like neither his dad or his grandpa.
No.666898
>>666892Now if only he got a haircut that doesn't suck
No.666902
>>666898tf u mean? it's the most powerful haircut on earth.
No.669075
Happy New Year
Juche 111
No.669080
Is there a DPRK news source that's just, like…normal day to day local news?
I want to know about the mundane daily life of the average DPRK citizen. There's a normalcy there that the rest of the world's chosen to ignore.
No.669092
>>669080Some of the videos on phuong dprk's channel.
No.670202
>The ROK has confirmed that a as of yet unidentified individual has defected to the DPRK by voluntarily walking across the DMZ line
No.671710
>>671680Kek all the comments are seething westerners posting snarky memes.
No.671864
>>671710It's fascinating how these people do not realize that there could be material reasons for someone to defect to the DPRK besides being a spy or having mental problems. If I was earning a middle income I'd probably not defect but if I was unemployed, maybe addicted, about to be homeless, etc. I'd simply just fuck off to the North. Especially since the North Korea media would gladly push that story, I probably even get an apartment in Pyongyang handed over to me for free.
People just look at the big economic divide between North and South and forget that the North still retains all the social guarantees while the South is really bad in providing for the less fortunate.
No.672459
>>649753i got banned from the discordance, my new tag is
A E S T H E T IC#9057
No.677845
How good is the DPRK army? Are they sophisticated, practice information sharing and make good of what few resources they have, or are they disorganized/corrupt like arab armies?
No.677852
>>674847glow uyghys are not ur frens
No.678237
>>677845Their ground forces are good, masses of artillery grant them immense firepower. They have a huge infantry as well and like the soviets they do lots of snipers and mortars, it would be hell to go up against them. Their air-force is shit, they can shoot down drones and helicopters, but not modern fighter jets or missiles. China and the Dprk have a mutual defense pact, which might cover their gap in Air-power. They also have the largest submarine fleet of any military, that is old but functional. They probably sank a south Korean Corvette in 2010. They also build a new class of submarine 2 or 3 years ago rumored to be able to launch an icbm.
No.684597
The /dprk/ Matrix room has reopened.
You can join it if you are already in the official /leftypol/ Element space.
No.688232
>>688228The request to lift sanctions against statue exports is particularly interesting, they are known to have exported a lot of statues to African countries.
Lifting the sanction against seafood exports I can see being a huge boon to the country, particularly its many seaside fishing villages that are some of the poorest places in the nation.
No.700096
>>699879looks good
but you really don't need to put that @ there 10 times, once or twice is enough
No.700137
>>695673>>695841I don't get it, why don't people that speak Korean just come out and say the subs are fake?
No.700169
>>699879Would be better with a sources section at the bottom
No.700203
>>700169Nah Best Korea haters wouldn't believe it anyway and they'd just try and nitpick the sources
What matters is that it's the truth
if I were a primary school teacher I'd proudly print it up as a poster and stick it on the classroom wall>>699879[Pic related] is for (you) comrade anon
No.700299
>>699879agree with most of it but, ignoring the negative connotation, why isn't the DPRK considered an authoritarian dictatorship?
i can easily imagine an authoritarian society ruled by a dictator that has many positive aspects. is the author of the chart just avoiding snarl words or am i fundamentally misunderstanding how they are defined?
No.701749
What is the short-hand way people in both the north and south refer to North Korea?
>North Korea?
>The initialism DPRK but adopted for the Korean alphabet?
>The full official name?
No.701900
>>701749The North and South use different names for Korea. A southerner calls Korea “Hanguk” (한국) and the north “Bukhan” (북한). The northerners call Korea “Joson” (조선) and the south “Namjoson” (남조선).
No.701905
>>701900>NamjosonSo…South Korea?
No.702385
>>701905The difference is Han vs Choson.
No.702558
>>700203There's never a reason not to include sources.
No.702796
How do you respond to dogmatists calling dprk revisionist because "they're nationalist and have almost a monarchy of the kim family"
No.702811
>>702796I'm not taking people seriously who use the term "revisionist" especially when they talk about the most besieged country on the planet. Tell them Mao or Hoxha were revisionist, that will shut them up.
No.702926
>>702811I mean, they are my organization man, so far the most serious one, so I need to be able to talk to them. And yes, funny how they talk about Hoxha a lot, bruh moment
No.703249
>>702926If they call the DPRK "revisionist" they are probably not that serious.
No.703337
>>702796ask them where they get their info from. Ask them to think materially and critically about NK position on a geopolitical level. Ask them why having a popular figurehead is bad.
No.703540
>>703337>Ask them why having a popular figurehead is bad.<it goes against marxist principles *quotes stalin*<also, juche turned marxism into idealism<also, juche talks about "peaceful integration" of the bourgeoisie into the socialist order<also, juche isn't marxist they said it themselves<also juche talks about how ideological renumeration should be prioritized in a socialist system, which is idealist *quotes marx talking about the remnants of capitalism in workers*and so on. their points are.. i don't know. semi-valid?
No.704891
>>703540that seems like very ideological nitpicking and somehow i doubt they debated this with an actual juche theorist that actually has his shit put into practice. NK dont just wank to ethereal theory, they have a state to run under constant US siege.
and obviously, critics made from the depth of your neolib hellhole to an actually existing socialist state with 0 reliable source is silly. you're allowed to crit their theory if you can show how it failed them in the material reality. Taking random docs from original kim and saying the theory is bad is not how you analyze and crit present day NK.
basically id call them sectarian, ultraleft idealists armchair faggots themselves, that slur a socialist state despite having no good access to the real way things are run, which is the important part, no some purely immaterial theory.
also, even their theory critics are mediocre
><it goes against marxist principles *quotes stalin*they should see the irony there
><also, juche turned marxism into idealismwhy?
><also, juche talks about "peaceful integration" of the bourgeoisie into the socialist orderdo they ?
><also, juche isn't marxist they said it themselvesyeah just cause they add their nationalist spin on it, doesnt mean the core isnt marxist.
No.722850
https://kcnawatch.org/korea-central-tv-livestream/Remover that you can watch North Korea's state tv broadcast online every day and that old broadcasts are archived.
No.729516
>>723595Why are you calling it stupid if you don't have a rebuttal?
Very unscientific attitude, comrade.
there was an effortpost someone screencapped from long ago talking about how they construct composite photos from satellites but I can't verify that without seeing it No.729596
>>728598Post the part at the end where Chinese sigmas are heroically mowing down burger bugmen. God that was so satisfying to watch. I only wish they had Korean troops too
No.729642
>>723595These images aren't just one picture from a satellite. They need thousands of captures from months of orbiting to get a good picture. So, it is really easy to just not include as many images of the DPRK. This isn't even a massive conspiracy, it is trivial for them to make the DPRK look dark.
I have also heard that they use different wavelengh lightbulbs. I think there was even a pdf about this. But I don't have a link to that and I really don't know if it is real.
The DPRK does have energy issues and they have to turn their lights off if they are asleep, which is fair enough. But it isn't nearly as bad as the fascist media might want you to believe.
No.733677
>>729202Explain this one to me.
No.735534
>>733677They have lots of solar panels everywhere
No.735538
>>735501so this is how greater korea will be made, because kim chad hun wanted virgin puss and the US had plenty, wierd because he is gay but whatever.
No.735548
>>735538Kim is gay and hetero, alive and dead, a genius evil mastermind and a bumbling idiot, fat and thin, smoking and quitting, a threat and a coward, materialist but heavenly, god and man, spirit and matter, the man of contradictions of universal proportions.
No.737609
>>735501Average chad moment in the DPRK
No.739361
>>695841>Talks about Wonsan City<Shows unrelated map of Kuwait, and later, MexicoDo fags actually fall for this shit?
Also, the top comment was:
>Funny how easily you can spot propaganda when you're an outsider.CLOWN WORLD.
No.742834
when people say it's an absolute monarchy, what do you say?
No.742836
>>742834asking for myself
No.743071
>>742834that they clearly have no idea how the NK political system function
>>742900man watching a patriotic war movie with US as bad guy was awesome. But they fall in exactly the same shortcomings as US ones. You don't see a single fucking korean, its barely acknowledged its outside china.
No.744047
What's the most pro-North spin you can give me of the Korean War? What do you point to when people say the North started it?
No.744081
>>744047It's unclear and very politically motivated as there were no independent observers when the war broke out, and all testimonies come from one side or the other. The DPRK version is that South Korea started it by attacking the border at Ongjin and seizing Haeju and other towns, and this triggered the North Korean invasion. The capture of Haeju was actually officially reported by South Korea but later denied by its government (it was deemed a sort of misinterpretation). The most widely accepted version in the west is the pro-American, United Nations report which put all the blame on the DPRK and deemed it an unprovoked aggression.
The DPRK arguments on the causes of the war are:
1. That from 1948 to 1950, South Korean troops launched numerous intrusions and raids into North Korean territory (there was constant fighting around the 38th parallel), while their president Syngman Rhee and advisors kept urging about attacking the north and had publicly talked about this many times. Additionally, a military triumph in the north could reignite support for Rhee, whose situation was deteriorating. Rhee lacked popular support, had suffered a serious defeat in the May 1950 legislative elections and faced strong underground resistance as well as protests and mutinies (ie. Jeju uprising, Yeosu–Suncheon rebellion)
2. That South Korea (ROK) was an illegitimate state installed by the United States, filled with Japanese collaborators, war criminals, traitors and American officers, and had no right to exist in the first place. It was propped up after American forces overthrew the popular People's Republic of Korea in 1945 (a national government in the making). The ROK was repressive and murdered independence leaders (Kim Koo, Ryo Un Hyong) and between 1948-50 executed up to 200,000 koreans and arrested 500,000 more during political repressions (and later would go to account for the majority of crimes during the war). So in short the Korean war would've never happened without American interference.
3. That before the war, the United States had already decided that North Korea would be deemed the aggressor, and had prepared the legal groundwork so that responsibility be placed on the DPRK in the name of the United Nations, and to secure a quick intervention under command of the United States. And also that America had double standards on the 38th parallel and what constituted aggression. When North Korea invades the south, the parallel is treated as an international border. When US invades the north, the 38th parralel is deemed "an imaginary line" and American leaders stop caring about it.
Sources:
The Korean War: A History - Bruce Cumings
Patriots, Traitors and Empires: The Story of Korea's Struggle for Freedom - Stephen Gowans
US Imperialists Started the Korean War - Foreign Languages House (DPRK book, has their official view on the war)
No.744108
>>744081Quality effortpost anon. I would screenshot rn but I am on mobile
No.744120
>>744114epic thank you anon
No.744125
>>744047>the North started ityou mean the legitimate government tried retaking its occupied territories of the foreign backed fascist collaborationist dictatorial government, after it started attacking them.
also the UN at the time without ussr and communist china had 0 legitimacy, it was basically nato
No.744130
>>744125Weird, kind of like the UN after they joined. Also hadn't the USSR joined already? I thought they were one of the founding members…
No.744131
Also of course the DPRK was justified either way. You don't need any excuse to spread communism to be frank
No.744149
>>744130they had joined, but when the other powers decided to put the retard fascists hidden in taiwan at the table instead of communist china, it boycotted the whole thing. US then used it for passing its imperial intervention as a legitimate move toward uncultured retard who dont know history and geopolitics.
No.745535
>>744081Is it confirmed that the South had sent death squads and others into the north?
No.745542
>>745329Is my homie KJU trying to transform into his dad? NK and Cuba are the only countries that give me hope.
No.745917
>>744081Thanks Comrade, higher quality screenshot here. Will make use of this in the future.
Could i also get an easy to understand quick historical rundown on why there were two Koreas in the first place and why the north was more legitimate then the south?
No.746002
>>742834correct them in that it's a hereditary socialist state
No.748281
>>746002>hereditary its not hereditary if they get elected at the position, and its not even the same position. Retard
No.756660
>>749436>if it has all the power and privilege but it does not
No.796447
>>796430Welp lads It's official the Russians are the good guys in this conflict
I already thought so, but now I know
No.798926
>>758793>even news anchors are wearing Joseon era dresses nowAnd people will still claim there's anything progressive about this tinpot cult?
No.798933
>>798926That lady always has worn that.
>hurr durr muh traditional clothingKoreans can dress like Koreans, you chauvinist pig.
No.798992
>>798926why they can't use traditional clothing as an anchor ?
No.800464
>>798926news anchors in the West wear traditional clothing too
No.805404
>>798926Preserving your nation's unique culture in the face of globalist capitalism
is progressive, paradoxically. We don't want everything to be a gray mass controlled by the Amis.
No.808910
>>268992DPRK is literally an absolutist monarchy and the direct successor of Joseon Korea, why should the left support it?
No.808967
can i get an uptodate pic of slim kim?
No.808991
>>808983>WOW AN ABSOLUTIST MONARCHY SO BASEDIs this what leftypol has become?
No.809032
>>808991Stfu globalist, we're been pro-monarchy since Ancient Inca times.
No.811900
>>808991>absolutistwrong
>monarchyno
read the archives linked in the OP we went through this a million times
No.819264
Requesting that comparison image that shows the heads of American and DPRK states. The USA roles are almost all dictated by the national president himself, or by people hand picked by the president, while DPRK has a large variety of people dictating these roles.
No.819949
>>819314Does the DPRK legislature elect those people? Who elects the legislature?
No.820002
>>819949fuck off vooooter
No.825044
>>819314Thank you very much. I'll try and add it to the booru.
No.838385
>>838380From what i hear, SKorea is the First country where Incels and femcels have political power.
No.838392
>>838385Fucking incredible development. But I get that doing almost 2 years of military service must suck.
Articles:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vx8k/south-korea-incel-gender-wars-election-womens-rights No.838676
>>838380>no thread for thisleftypol is dead
No.838687
>>838676I wanted to make a thread but I was scared for getting banned for talking about the incel links so posting it in the DPRK thread was safer.
No.838794
>>838380>got elected without a majorityBourgeois "democracy"
No.838806
>>838794>Bourgeois "democracy"in spite of you not understanding what a republic is, true democracy is mob rule and serves as the greatest advantage to the ruling class. fuck democracy
No.838987
>>838794lmao its still way better than north korea which doesnt even let people vote…. or rather you do, your choices are "yes" and "shoot me" 😒
No.839004
>>838987north korea did vote. they voted for communism/juche in 1953, not with ballots but with rifles. they got exactly what they voted for and some cultish retards on this board still defend it
No.839108
south korea voted for its ronald regan
and the ironic thing is the liberal guy is economically closer to park chung hee/south koreas fdr tho the analogy is kinda eh
im in doomer mode
No.839132
>>838380>>838925>>839108Incel vs 8 goddess/megalia civil war soon?
Also never 4get the peoples' republic of korea
No.839193
>>838987Name three political parties in DRPK.
Not reading your posts until you do.
No.839850
>>838806Oh look, a reactionary bourgeois take, delivered with the pose of a rebel. It's anarcho-burger time!
No.840219
>>479525>>479527Not happy to see this. Can someone explain this? I had no idea DPRK was so racist..
No.840228
>>838925motherfucker you made my heart skip some beats, I had to check if that tweet was real.
No.840635
>>839193all of them are puppets to the Wpk, its the illusion of choice. you can't prove North korea has real elections.
No.845399
https://boards.4channel.org/trv/thread/2200444Thread of rare photos from inside North Korea.
No.865005
>>840219North Koreans are people just like anyone else, and have all manner of flaws. With how isolated they are from the international community, it's no wonder that racism can make it into op-eds in the papers, even when the party line is staunchly against racism.
No.869579
>>864727not gonna lie, some of them look cool.
No.869651
>>869570Housing is free in the DPRK. Why would the government deliberately keep the homes empty after putting in so many ressources to build them?
No.869694
>>869651As the article points out, only a couple of lots qualify for the free housing program. There is furthermore a growing black market for housing, with supply and demand in a nominally socialist country being a reasonable explanation for vacant apartments.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-korea-north-housing-insight/asias-hottest-property-market-is-also-its-most-unlikely-north-korea-idUSBREA2O1UP20140325>>869667You only have a problem with it because it's funded by a country you don't like. Can you demonstrate Daily NK is an unreliable source in-and-of-itself?
No.869706
>>869694if it receives funding from the US, an state with a history of lying and using any way to spread it's agenda, then is not reliable by default
No.869713
>>869694Information on the DPRK are very sparse. The self-assurance of that author, Mun Dong Hui, is unwarranted given that buying and selling k housing is illegal there. There is also no information about the author whatsoever except that they have over 300 extremely vitriolic anti-DPRK articles on their belt.
No.869714
>>869694Sorry but housing is completely free in the dprk (if I am not mistaken it is even written as such in the constitution)
Of course there likely is some corruption however this would suggest high demand relative to available stock not deliberate vacancies (since it would be very easy for the housing authorities to detect if the lower administrators were witholding properties in order to extort bribes; You just send people down there to check at random intervals)
No.869716
>>869694get the fuck out of here liberal, left doesn't include you
No.870192
>>488426These bogpills are too strong for you traveler.
No.870266
>>637022>pic>source: FacebookDon't post shit like this. It only hurts our reputation.
No.876525
>>869694Daily NK was established with the express purpose of serving as an outlet for anti-DPRK propaganda and is run from Seoul. Also NED is a front for the CIA. You might as well cite Radio Free Asia.
No.876865
>>876525Can you provide a couple instances where they provably lied?
No.879351
>>879060Did they really put this out?
No.879372
>>879060Indian soap opera level of editing lmao
No.881858
>>879060spilled my tea lmao
No.881879
>>881726Looks like you missed the second 'a' in 'cataid'
https://web.archive.org/web/20160612010922/http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataid=nk00100&num=13544It certainly is a real link, someone has used the Wayback Machine (
https://web.archive.org ) to archive a snapshot of
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00100&num=13544 , a real site that is now replaced by
https://www.dailynk.com/english/factors-contributing-to-the-decrea/. The numbers 20160612010922 between those two links denote the date timestamp of when it was archived: 2016-06-12 01:09:22 AM.
No.882350
>>879060this really rattled china and russia huh? bet they're biting their ankles that they're stuck with a rogue state huh
No.882356
>>882350What the fuck are you talking about?
No.882361
>>882356weren't russia and china holding talks about this missile test or something?
No.884857
>>882361they're holding talk to remove the sanctions retard
No.887999
>The Juche idea, the guiding ideology of socialism in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, was and is target of much criticism not only by the bourgeois media vehicles, from who we are already used to reading these types of content, but also by many progressives and so-called communists. Among the latter, stand out, in particular, Hoxhaists and Maoists, those who raise Enver Hoxha as a great defender of the purity of Marxism-Leninism against revisionism and those who follow “Marxism-Leninism-Maoism”, summarized by Abimael Guzmán, leader of the Sendero Luminoso, from Peru, as “the third and superior stage of Marxism-Leninism”.
>It is well known that between the followers of both lines there is a lot of friction, as well as between the main leaders of the two sides. However, when it comes to the Juche idea and socialism in Korea in general, they both embark on a common frenzy of criticism, most often frivolous. In an attempt to prove the "purity" and "superiority" of this or that idea, they launch attacks against the country that, at times, even assimilates and adheres to what is broadcast by the media at the service of capital and of imperialism, which is, in fact, something to be scared about, coming from communists.
>Given this situation, this article is intended to bring to light the criticisms raised against this idea and Korean socialism in order to provide a reasonable clarification and conclusion of what is really in them.
No.897639
Did you guys know that the Korean peninsula didn't exist between 1945 and June 25th 1950! On that date in 1950 it reappears and the North attacks for no reason at all.
No.912834
is it true that kim jong il wrote 1500 books and 6 operas?
No.914733
>>912834During the 1970s he was involved with the creation of the 5 Revolutionary Operas: Sea of Blood, The Flower Girl, Tell O' The Forest, A True Daughter of the Party, and The Song of Mount Kumgang. Maybe the 6th is The Fate of a Self-defence Corps Man. He’s never credited with writing them himself and you can find them on youtube. I don’t know exactly how many works are credited to Kim Jong Il, but keep in mind that many of them are transcriptions of talks he gave to officials and can be as short as 7 pages.
No.916153
>>496047No, but it costs a grand to find out you aren't going to score with the living blowup doll. Play Elden Ring instead, it's cheaper and will give you a better illusion of intimacy with living plastic.
No.920199
>>914733>Kumganghell yeah dude
No.923041
>>922945Doubtful. If true, based and impressive.
No.928487
>>923071Domestic news in the DPRK can be so warm and wholesome 🥰🥰🥰
No.928488
>>928316Fuck South Korea
They abduct north koreans dont allow them to leave south korea and treat them like shit
No.928493
>>923071Its always incrdible to me how beautifil north korea is i once spend several hours looking at pyongyang through google maps
No.928508
>>923071I love my homie KJU so much man.
No.952051
>>949105kek, is this from the south?
No.965187
>>965088Well that sucks.
>The country so far has shunned vaccines offered by the UN-backed Covax distribution programme, possibly because administering the jabs would require international monitoring.They had no vaccination program because they had no cases. You can get vaccines from many suppliers (also from Russia, China, Cuba), so the reason given by the author is not plausible.
>Easley said the presence of the virus could affect any plans the leadership has for missile or nuclear tests.That… doesn't make any sense?
No.965197
>>965187>That… doesn't make any sense?I mean, it ain't entirely wrong, one person could get covid thus forcing everyone involved in either test to be under quarantine, which could delay said test
No.965213
>>965088proof that china has abandoned the dprk
No.966446
N. Korea says six people died from COVID-19
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220513000800325North Korea said Friday six people have died from COVID-19 and that around 18,000 people have shown fever symptoms the previous day, in its first release of the number of infected cases and possible infected cases.
No.968544
Kim Jong-un declares Covid outbreak a ‘great disaster’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/14/north-korea-kim-jong-un-declares-covid-outbreak-a-great-disasterNorth Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, has declared the country’s first Covid-19 outbreak a “great disaster” as it reported 21 more deaths.
State media said 174,440 people were newly found with fever symptoms on Friday alone as the country scrambles to slow the spread of Covid-19 across its unvaccinated population. North Korea said on Saturday that a total of 27 people have died and 524,440 fell ill amid a rapid spread of fever since late April. It said 280,810 people remain in quarantine.
Kim said he had “faith that we can overcome this malicious infectious disease within the shortest period possible,” the report added. The country imposed nationwide lockdowns on Thursday after confirming its first Covid-19 infections since the start of the pandemic.
Kim said they would be following the Chinese model of virus prevention.
“We should take lessons from the experiences and fruitful achievements in preventing virus of the China’s Communist party and its people,” he said.
No.971840
>>968544Why the fuck did they not vaccinate? Is the great will and juche spirit of the Korean people going to fend off the virus?
No.973887
Lacking vaccines, North Korea battles COVID with antibiotics, home remedies
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/lacking-vaccines-nkorea-battles-covid-with-antibiotics-home-remedies-2022-05-16/To treat COVID and its symptoms, state media have encouraged patients to use painkillers and fever reducers such as ibuprofen, and amoxicillin and other antibiotics - which do not fight viruses but are sometimes prescribed for secondary bacterial infections.
While previously playing down vaccines as "no panacea", media have also recommended gargling salt water, or drinking lonicera japonica tea or willow leaf tea three times a day.
"Traditional treatments are the best!" one woman told state broadcasters as her husband described having their children gargle with salted water every morning and night.
An elderly Pyongyang resident said she had been helped by ginger tea and ventilating her room.
"I was first scared by COVID, but after following the doctors' advice and getting the proper treatments, it turned out not a big deal," she said in a televised interview.
While not claiming that antibiotics and home remedies will eliminate COVID, North Korea has a long history of developing scientifically unproven treatments, including an injection made from ginseng grown in rare earth elements it claimed could cure everything from AIDS to impotence.
Some have roots in traditional medicines, while others have been developed to offset a lack of modern drugs or as "made in North Korea" exports.
No.973972
When is SK collapsing so we can have turbodengist J U C H E W A V E 2 0 7 7
No.974478
>>973972when the US suffer from a burgerkrieg at the earliest.
they're litterally too big to fail.
No.974942
>>968544>Kim said they would be following the Chinese model of virus prevention.Incredibly stupid in an Omicron world.
No.974947
>>971840At the time they had no cases and the amount of vaccines they were offered wasn't enough anyway
No.988094
>>674851Le conozco en persona, es un sujeto maravilloso.
I know him in person, extremely cool guy
No.1003187
>>973887All countries do things like that too, USA expresident, Donald Trump told people that bleach could cure covid, and Braziliian president Jair Bolsonaro was reportedly "afraid that the vaccine could turn him into a crocodile"
No.1003911
>>644916LMFAOOO
They're literally funded by the CIA.
Very recently, they went on to compare Kim Il Sung with Hitler and Mussolini!
No.1003912
>>887999OMG thanks for posting it over here!
No.1005559
>>987548DPRK is so, so good
No.1009070
>>987530Are you actually North Korean? Or living in the DPRK?
No.1019551
https://boards.4channel.org/trv/thread/2253725Thread from guy who visited DPRK multiple times. We could get him to make a thread here and ask any questions you guys have if you want to try.
No.1019590
>>997489christ fag is a degenerate bourgeois rapist imagine my shock
No.1021286
>>1019551Holy shit that place is irredeemable.
No.1035722
>>1021286They're actually more even handed an i thought they would be:
>She must have gotten executed for her behavior in the video with anti-air guns fired by dogs that were afterwards used as an afternoon snack for the Great Leader.>There is no way that she had a day off or was assigned to some other duty.or
>I realised that whole Vice thing was mostly sensationalist clickbait bullshit just from the titles alone. We sneaked journalists into North Korea as if that fat fuck Shane Smith went through the DMZ in a ghillie suit or some shit. Lol. No.1052462
>Jang Myong Il released an article under the title "The United States Must Not Forget Its Miserable Defeat in the Korean War.">The article said.>On June 25, 1950 the United States provoked the Korean War after thorough preparations in a bid to realize its wild ambition to occupy the whole of Korea and make it a stepping stone for aggression on the Asian continent. At that time, it thought that it could easily occupy the DPRK in its cradle by dint of numerical and technical superiority.>The United States hurled to the Korean War one third of its ground force, one fifth of its air force, most of the Pacific Fleet, troops of 15 satellite countries, the south Korean army and the Japanese militarists, more than two million in all. It invested 165 billion US dollars of military spending and shipped over 73 million tons of war supplies, 11 times as much as those spent in the Pacific War.>The DPRK, founded only two years before, was incomparable with the United States both in number of strength and hardware. The result of the war, however, was entirely beyond the expectation. In the three years of war the United States suffered huge human and material losses.>The US magazine "US News and World Report" commented that the losses of the US forces in the Korean War are two times greater than those suffered by the United States in five big wars– the Independence War, the war in 1812, the Mexican War, the US-Spain War and the Philippine War. The myth of US mightiness that it was never defeated in more than 110 wars for nearly 180 years since its foundation was totally broken off in the Korean War.>Noting that the Korean War in the 1950s can be called "showdown between A-bomb and rifles" which was fought by the DPRK in its cradle against the United States boasting of being the strongest in the world, the article continued.>The secret of the DPRK's victory in this showdown lies in the Juche-based military idea, superb strategy and tactics and outstanding commanding art of the great leader Kim Il Sung, the iron-willed brilliant commander, and in the indomitable fighting spirit of the Korean People's Army and the Korean people who bravely fought with do-or-die resolve, firmly rallied around their leader.>Today the DPRK, under the wise leadership of the respected Kim Jong Un, Supreme Commander of its Armed Forces and ever-victorious iron-willed brilliant commander, has possessed the military and technical upper hand which can destroy any forces seeking military confrontation with it at one stroke, an irresistible war deterrent.>If the United States dares to recklessly provoke the DPRK, oblivious of its miserable defeat in the Korean War in the 1950s, it will not escape irretrievable disaster, the article warned.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mey_IdLPygA No.1061711
★NEWS★
>DPRK Special Workshop for Officials in Party Life Guidance Sectionshttps://youtu.be/Ydpnp0-kyac>Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un Has Photo Session with Participants in Special Workshophttps://dprktoday.com/abroad/songun/1825?lang=e>Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un Visits Kumsusan Palace of Sunhttps://dprktoday.com/abroad/songun/1822?lang=e>Special Workshop for Officials in Party Life Guidance Sections of Organizational Departments of Party Committees at All Levels of WPK Held General Secretary of WPK Kim Jong Un Guides Workshophttps://dprktoday.com/abroad/songun/1819?lang=e★TUNE OF THE DAY★
>Ode to the Mother Partyhttps://youtu.be/K4J01dHzcnE★SUPREME LEADER SPEECHES★
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjSOqYsgV4mqxEaFvYT7zwvivqP9p4UuZ★DPRK FACT OF THE DAY★
>The total length of course, covered by the President Kim Il-sung for field guidance until the last days of his life just after Korea's liberation from the Japanese imperialists' colonial rule, is more than 578 000 kilometers. No.1080021
Looks like we have some newfrens
No.1081285
>>1081277>twatter crapArchive link to the article loser
No.1081291
>>1081277It's true, I'm the flag in the back in the pic.
No.1083374
I did want everyone to know if they don't already that there is a fantastic Russian observer of Korean affairs named Konstantin Asmolov whose work even translated into English:
https://journal-neo.org/author/asmolovk/Video is a discussion between him and Kagarlitsky.
No.1086614
>>1086588
>Radio Free Asia
Can you please keep the imperialoid propaganda out of my Juche thread? Thanks
No.1086634
>>1086588
It's true, i was the anonymous source listed.
No.1086649
>>1086614>>1086634Them having a bias doesn't automatically disprove the source. They even put a photo in, and you can cross-reference dog-eating with other stories like
https://apnews.com/1e4cc8823492487ba94f9fb163126fb2/Man-bites-dog:-North-Koreans-eat-dog-meat-to-beat-the-heatYou're not obligated to defend this shithole at any cost you know. North Korea has serious problems that go beyond 'muh sanctions' 'muh imperialism'. It's leadership is corrupt, inequality is high, and they totally screwed up the Covid situation.
No.1086657
>>1086649Saying that RFA merely has a "bias" is the understatement of the century
Who gives a fuck what different cultures eat btw, since thats the main thrust of your articles. AP doesnt try to frame this as a class thing, everyone eats dogs in Korea on both sides of the border. It even wraps up by saying that culture is changing and that dog consumption is on the decline, so even in your anglo brain where dog eating is le bad, its a non issue
>North Korea has serious problemsI dont disagree, but why dont you actually raise those problems instead of this garbage?
No.1086665
>>1086649not a bias, they are an arm of the US state as propaganda, photos are meaningless and can be easily be twisted and manipulated, and histories are just that with no proof, a history, also eating dogs is common in big parts of asia, you just pretending that don't exist to own NK.
>You're not obligated to defend this shithole at any cost you knowi am if you make up bullshit about them you know because i like the truth, there is no problem in admiting that you are just repeating the US regime line about their enemies so you can not fry your brain studying the truth.
No.1086676
>>1086649No, but saying that they are literally a State Department operation does disprove the source.
>They even put a photo inLol
No.1089727
Anyone still have the English-subtitled recordings of a guided tour for a bunch of Chinese? I remember they were posted in this thread sometime last year.
No.1092727
Kim Jong Un says Korean peninsula on the ‘brink of war’https://www.ft.com/content/7fdf4933-ea2d-4151-8f09-f98e2715e8c7>North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has accused the US and South Korea of bringing the Korean peninsula to the “brink of war”, as Seoul and Washington prepare for their first large-scale joint military exercises in four years.
>In remarks reported on Thursday from an event on Wednesday to mark the anniversary of the end of the Korean war in 1953, Kim threatened to “wipe out” South Korean forces with nuclear weapons in the event of a confrontation.
>“Our armed forces are completely prepared to respond to any crisis, and our country’s nuclear war deterrent is also ready to mobilise its absolute power dutifully, exactly and swiftly in accordance with its mission,” North Korean state media reported Kim as saying.
>“It is a suicidal act, and absurd and extremely dangerous, to talk about military action against our country when we actually already have the most powerful weapon which you fear the most.”
>The joint US-South Korean military exercises next month will be the first large-scale drills since 2018, when they were scaled down ahead of a summit between Kim and then-US president Donald Trump. Since 2019, the exercises have been reduced to computer-simulated command post-training.
>This year’s exercises, to be held in late August and early September, will include joint aircraft carrier strike drills and amphibious landing training.
>…In his speech on Wednesday, Kim blamed the US for “demonising” Pyongyang’s “routine” military developments as “provocations”. He warned “military gangsters” in the South Korean government to stop issuing what he described as threats.
>North Korea’s foreign ministry issued a statement on Wednesday describing the joint US-South Korea exercises as being conducted with a “thick gunpowder smell”. It called the two countries “a horde of belligerents wanting the wretchedness of war”.
>The ministry also warned that this summer’s joint drills may “spread into the second Korean war”.
>…In an editorial this week, North Korean state newspaper Rodong Sinmun urged citizens “always to keep in mind the historic philosophy that the nature of the US imperialists and class enemies will never change and you must hate imperialism unconditionally”. No.1093051
>>1089729Exactly this one, thank you.
No.1093053
A bit related:
Has South Korea, through K-pop, K-drama, and excessive media exposure of its public figures, emerged as a player in global capitalism? Instead of being just some mere bastion in East Asia for it?
No.1093088
>>1093053no,absolutely not,even Taiwan is a bigger player. (you should add manwha to the first group I guess,but most of them are garbage,just like the chinese stuff that gets translated)
No.1093102
>>1093088Well it's big in Southeast Asia and North America? They're winning spots on Spotify and Netflix as well as local media here (they made ad sponsors with various companies operating in Indonesia)
No.1093148
>>1093088But what about Samsung, LG, and Hyundai
No.1107092
Kim Il-sung apparently said that "Enemies of class, whoever they are, their seed must be eliminated through three generations". Is there a good debunk of this three generations thing?
No.1107194
>>1107165Are pollinators able to get up there? Very cool though
No.1107685
>>1107092http://www.uriminzokkiri.com/index.php?lang=eng&ptype=cforev&stype=1&ctype=1&mtype=view&no=4161This pretty much debunks it, my view is that the myth of Songbun (Which roughly translates to social composition) is used to scare South Koreans, because its logic implies they would all be classified as an irredeemable caste. Here is the DPRK dictionary definition of Songbun, the last sentence is key: 사회계급적관계에 의하여 규정되는 사람들의 사회적구분 곧 사람들의 사상상 구성성분으로서 어떤 계급의 영향을 많이 받았고 어떤 계급의 사상이 그의 머리속을 지배하고있는가 하는것을 알기 위하여 출신과 직업, 사회생활의 경위에 의하여 사회성원을 사회적부류로 나눈것. 사람들의 성분은 고정불변한것이 아니라 생활환경과 조건이 달라지는데 따라 변한다. The concept of Songbun popped up in English speaking circles only around 2012 (Despite it apparently being extremely prevalent during the 1970-80s), however it does seem South Koreans have used it at least as far back as the 1990s. I will say that families who had relatives that fought with Kim Il Sung’s partisans have historically received a better quality of life compared to the average person as a type of reward, but it would be a ridiculous stretch to believe that certain families are coal miners for eternity because someone related to them lightly collaborated with a class enemy a few generations back. It is utterly ridiculous how widespread this generational punishment idea is, the sanctification of defector testimony has ruined any genuine attempt to understand the DPRK. It’s like using the testimony of a QAnon follower to understand the US Government.
No.1109030
Are there any good English news sites for the DPRK? I see dprktoday.com linked here. nknews is glowified
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