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 No.285223[Last 50 Posts]

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
——————–

Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!


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Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)
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Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

'Three Source and Theree Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGog4JPn5-W3_XIKccENysg

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Marx and Engles Reading List
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Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/index.htm

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/

'Value, Price and Profit'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/value-price-profit/

'Theses on Feuerback'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/theses.htm

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

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Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)
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Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1918/prrk/

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1905/tactics/index.htm

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1905/dec/03.htm

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'
https://kabirabud.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/slavoj_zizek_repeating_leninbookfi-org.pdf

'Revolutionary Adventurism'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/sep/01.htm

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MLM Reading List
——————–

Essentials:

Why MLM?
https://why-mlm.medium.com/why-mlm-af48aba14f8a

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S01-MLM-Basic-Course-Revised-Edition-10th-Printing.pdf

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'
https://libgen.lc/get.php?md5=a00646f118a3427ec19263021b3e84e1&key=06Q5Q1W5DFK8YOHU&mirr=1

Mao:

'On Practice & Contradiction'
https://marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_16.htm
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/N04-On-Contradiction-Study-2nd.pdf

'On Guerrilla Warfare'
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/1937/guerrilla-warfare/index.htm

'On Protracted War'
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_09.htm

China:

'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=00F5750256E291B678E2A0039D3CF54E

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=BD54E7C5F9CDE90E30BD0CB5E91F0049

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=2495C43CFA7395ACA45CA812A304A701

Peru:

Interview With Chairman Gonzalo
https://the-red-flag.org/en/central-committee-of-the-communist-party-of-peru-interview-with-chairman-gonzalo/

General line of the PCP
https://gplpcp.wordpress.com/

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=4FB5D349F9D3250453C5F0525F5890DD

India:

Operation “Green Hunt” in India
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/N08-Operation-Green-Hunt.pdf

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S18-Historic-Eight-Documents.pdf

'Urban Perspective'
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S14-Urban-Perspective-4th-Printing.pdf

Philippines:

Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/S22-Activist-Study-ARAK-2nd-Printing.pdf

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S07-Stand-for-Socialism-3rd-Printing.pdf

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S11-Rethinking-Socialism-4th-Printing.pdf

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=F68AC84D480D41A222818D802F3AF7CA
or
https://library.bz/uploads/main/c0105702c9219cf136bdae79008daaa4.epub
or
https://why-mlm.medium.com/china-a-modern-social-imperialist-power-d5ac7a9455f7

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=8B44F61D828997487E2FDE607FCF2FEB

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Leftcom Reading Lists
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r/marxism101's reading list:
https://i.imgur.com/s70UUPQ.jpg

r/bruhinternational's reading list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bruhinternational/comments/m53hon/official_rbruhinternational_reading_list/

Bordiga:

'The Democratic Principle'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1922/democratic-principle.htm

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1951/class-party.htm

'The Spirit of Horsepower'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1953/horsepower.htm

'Report on Fascism'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1922/bordiga02.htm

'Activism'
https://libcom.org/library/activism-amadeo-bordiga

'The Lyons Theses'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1926/lyons-theses.htm

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'
https://libcom.org/library/theory-action-marxist-doctrine-amadeo-bordiga

'Dialogue with Stalin'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm

Pannekoek:

'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1920/communist-tactics.htm

'Party and Class'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1936/party-class.htm

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gorter/1920/open-letter.htm

'The World Revolution'
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gorter/1918/world-revolution.htm

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Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)
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'The Next Revolution'
https://libcom.org/files/Murray%20Bookchin-The%20Next%20Revolution.%20Popular%20Assemblies%20and%20the%20Promise%20of%20Direct%20Democracy-Verso%20(2015).pdf

'Urbanization Without Cities'
http://188.165.199.119/files/Urbanization_Without_Cities_-_Ebook.pdf

'The 3rd Revolution'
https://libcom.org/library/third-revolution-popular-movements-revolutionary-era

'The Ecology of Freedom'
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-the-ecology-of-freedom

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Links to Resources and Libraries:
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More Marx and Engels:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/index.htm

Lenin:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/

Other Selected Marxists:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/selected-marxists.htm

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-8/mswv8_56.htm

Many important books can be found on libgen:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

Libcom has some good books/documents:
https://libcom.org/library

Other links:
https://archive.is/L8uFD

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:
https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22kocotosi%40gmail.com%22&sort=-publicdate

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
https://mega.nz/#F!QUFQSBja!hPbmmLolJBGwSQ848nncnw
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
https://mega.nz/#F!4M1FnTgI!CdM8WWjpBC_UHGCJk9AHzA
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
https://mega.nz/#F!gRFkQCLY!5gUkmaubpp_P_yKLZiBJ9Q
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
https://mega.nz/#F!0QtCiI7L!MJZJk-SdjyBuBZOuNJuOPQ
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
https://mega.nz/#F!9IkymYBZ!B8vB2yDP0Qv_-DPS2ro-HA
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
https://mega.nz/#F!sFMQXJ6J!JboByVCZScC6Jq2YXE0Exw
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
https://mega.nz/#F!BJEmkQiZ!vylIbCWFrqIeYaLiuN2szg
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.

 No.285227

> our political ideology
I'm not a Marxist though

 No.285236

>>285227
Pathetic attempt at holding people from reading. Pull your faggy soyboy face off with a knife and eat it

 No.285247

Also you should read Losurdo.

 No.285248

Welp, might as well start with absolute beginners tier, lol.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

 No.285250

>>285247
Nice attempt at idpol. Stalin wasn't black.

 No.285251

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some guides/lists

 No.285252

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 No.285253

>>285227
Feel free to post a reading list for your own poltical ideology

 No.285257


 No.285258

Based. This whole board needs more reading. How about adding some ML content? I see the Lenin list and some Mao in the MLM list, but maybe some Stalin and other MLs? These are good books for starters:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03.htm

Hopefully someone more well read than me should suggest more books, these are the only ones i've read.stalinStalin

 No.285260

>>285258
Stalin's collected works' magnet
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 No.285261

>>285253
>inc Mein Kampf

 No.285272

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IIRC: Principles of communism seems to imply, so far, that the proletariat was unique to the 19th and 20th century. Does this imply that the current working class is not proletarian?

Also there's an interesting section about manufacturing workers, self employed types, that distinguishes them from both petty Borgeious and Prolotariate.

 No.285280

This is a good thread but very bad that it was posted by a mod. Remember we're supposed to be a non-sectarian board?

 No.285285

>>285272
Not sure what you mean by that. It is true that a lot of the conditions of the working class are now different to what they were (particularly in the first world), but the overall analysis still stands.

>The proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital; whose weal and woe, whoselife and death, whose sole existence depends on the demand for labor — hence,on the changing state of business, on the vagaries of unbridled competition. The proletariat, or the class of proletarians, is, in a word, the working class of the 19th century.


The last line only implies that the proletariat was the working class that appeared in the 19th century. It does not say it is a phenomenon specific to that time. Notice what actually describes the proletariat: living off the sale of one's labor alone. That is still very much true of the current working classes.

>>285280
In what way is the OP sectarian? Sure, it's more marxist focused, but it caters to various different tendencies, even Bookchinist communalism (not marxism). Not to mention, the mods have been gathering this list for a while now, yet no anarchist (or other tendency) posters have contributed in any way to the list. If anything it just goes to show that either a) anarchist posters are just completely uninvested in the board or b) anarchists don't read. In either case, the solution is not for the mods to bend over backwards to make reading lists for tendencies they don't know, but for interested posters to engage, gather and suggest material. Note the post above by one of the mods, expliticly saying contributions are still welcome.

 No.285289

I propose an activity: Anons post a leftist position they can't stand or despise and another from that position recommends the first anon a book.

I'll begin, I can't stand anarcho-primitivists, can an An-prim recommend a book.left_communismLeft Communism

 No.285335

>>285289
probably the best youll get is Desert which is a good read and well written but in terms of real analysis and propositions is shit im sorry to say

 No.285344

>>285335
Desert is not anprim.

 No.285348

thank you, I wanted more recommendationsak-47AK-47

 No.285364

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oh thank god this is back. this was always my favorite thread in the old leftypol.

 No.285366

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-y_8iHigC3Ms5TngF/BLUM%20killing%20hope_djvu.txt

Killing Hope By William Blum, a history of US Military and CIA interventions since WW2

 No.285394

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>>285285
Ok so even if you ignore the uniqueness of the 19th and 20th century prolotariat as a mass of industrial workers how is it we are not fully certain that the prolotariate is not, itself,a faiding class in the 21st century or at least not as strong and therefore unable to rise to the challenge of communism? Are we not being more and more integrated into the manufacturing workers role? E.g: Computers are a good example of manufacturing prolotariat and we all have one of those. Or what about people who own capital in the form of stocks? Now that technology has advanced to a point where anyone can download robbinhood amd start investing does this not imply that the prolotariate has at least fallen into the margins of society?

 No.285467

>>285289

I fucking hate maoism, can a MLM recommend me a book that is not a Mao book, that is not a Gonzalo interview, and that is not Moufawad-Paul ?iwwIWW

 No.285482


 No.285498

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>>285482

Already did, hence why i'm not a maoist.iwwIWW

 No.285520

>>285498
Mao wasn't that bad. I haven't read a super lot of him but i understand he had good revolutionary theory as far as practice goes.

 No.285656


 No.285854

based thread

 No.285858

>>285394
I want to know more about this too

 No.285862

>>285656
the law of value series has been taken down from youtube

any mirrors?

 No.285918

>>285862
Has it really.

 No.285991

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>>285656
>>285252
>>285251
Gonna add some lists

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>>285995
Not really reading, but still

 No.286043

Engels : Ludwig Fuerbach
Darwin: The Origins of the Species.
Daniel Dennet: Darwin’s Dangerous Idea
Plekanov: The Materialist Conception of History
Lenin: Materialism and Empiro-Criticism
Kautsky : Origins of Christianity
Paul Cockshott: How the world Works
Turing: Can a Machine Think
Althusser : Lenin and Philosophy
Daniel Dennet: Consciousness Explained
Claude Shannon: Mathematical Theory of Communication
Paul Cockshott, Allin F. Cottrell, Gregory J. Michaelson, Ian P. Wright and Victor M. Yakovenko: Classical Econophysics
Phil A. Neel: Hinterland
Paul Cockshott, Allin F. Cottrell: Towards a New Socilaism
Nicholas Shackel: The Vacuity of Postmodernist Methodology.
Smedley Butler: War Is A Racket
William Blum: Killing Hope U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II
Losurdo Domenico: Liberalism A Counter-History
Micheal Parenti: Blackshirts and reds rational fascism and the overthrow of communism

 No.286150

>>285999
Holy fuck that crisis album is amazing.

 No.286175

what do u guys think of Neue Marx-Lektüre

 No.286183

>>286175
Bro…just don't

 No.286188

>>286175
Who the fuck is that?

>>286183
Now i'm even more curious.

 No.286202

>>286188
>Who the fuck is that?

heinrich n shit. monetary theory of value

 No.286206

>>286202
originally spawned by Isaak Illich Rubin who was purged by stalin, but has gained popularity again.

 No.286211

>>286188
>Now i'm even more curious
It isn't some forbidden fruit like you think. Just straight up retardation

 No.286216

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>>286211
Not always a bad thing.

 No.286217

>>286211
Why's it retarded? Seems pretty straightforward to me. We can't have commodity exchange on a systemic level without a universal equivalent (money).
Therefore value can only be realized through this exchange of money, not just created in a vacuum of production.

 No.286226

>>286217
This by far doesn't cover it buddy. They have far more to say than that. Their line of thought essentially brings you back being an armchair analyst

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 No.286260

>>285223
Hello, to clarify, the reason that MLM and Leftcoms specifically have their own sections on our list is those are the only people that contributed so far. If you think there should be an anarchist reading list (or whatever) then please give some suggestions for your ideology and we will add them.

 No.286275

>>286226
What I've read just emphasized the role of money for value, what are you referring to?

 No.286319

>>286275
Explain verwertung in your own words.

 No.286445

>>286043
Actually a great list for the modern communistslavojSlavoj

 No.286457

>>285467
Black panth party lit

 No.286496

>>286043
>Classical Econophysics before Towards A New Socialism
Lmao what?? TANS would be a much better book to read first than Classical Econophysics since TANS was written for the average person in mind whilst Classical Econophysics is more esoteric and dense book.

 No.286510

>>286319
Verwertung is when you remember you had like a yogurt or what have you in the fridge and consume it before it turns bad. That is the meaning of Verwertung.

 No.286578

>>286445
>Actually a great list for the modern communist
It's not a complete and carefully curated list, this was adhoc. you might actually want to read other stuff too like Marx's Capital for an obvious example
>>286496
you don't have to read it in that order. I guess you are right TANS should come before Econophysics

 No.286711

>>286578
I gathered it was kinda rough. I'm sure the cybersoc thread could expand it into 2 lists, one scientific and one more political (lenin, althusser, parenti, etc)slavojSlavoj

 No.287096

>What will this new social order have to be like?
Above all, it will have to take the control of industry and of all branches of production out of the hands of mutually competing individuals, and instead institute a system in which all these branches of production are operated by society as a whole – that is, for the common account, according to a common plan, and with the participation of all members of society.

>It will, in other words, abolish competition and replace it with association.


<Moreover, since the management of industry by individuals necessarily implies private property, and since competition is in reality merely the manner and form in which the control of industry by private property owners expresses itself


<it follows that private property cannot be separated from competition and the individual management of industry. Private property must, therefore, be abolished and in its place must come the common utilization of all instruments of production and the distribution of all products according to common agreement – in a word, what is called the communal ownership of goods.


<In fact, the abolition of private property is, doubtless, the shortest and most significant way to characterize the revolution in the whole social order which has been made necessary by the development of industry – and for this reason it is rightly advanced by communists as their main demand.


DENGISTS FULL ON SEETHING AND COPING

 No.287213

You k ow engles really makes it sound like economic planning was not to plan for production A-priori, rather, to have an economic plan for production after the fact: Meaning qe produce, or, literally as engles puts it: Over produce and the we plan out the distribution of our over production or the distribution, to a degree, of our production in general.

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 No.287295

>>287213
except if you're overproducing then you're wasting labour. distributing surplus after the face sounds production anarchy-ycockshottCockshott

 No.287437

>>287295
I guess, perhaps. It still doesn't sound to me like the distribution and production of resources is planed out in totality though. I think you have to allow for some anarchy fundamentally in some way. Look at the passage:

"There will be no more crises; the expanded production, which for the present order of society is overproduction and hence a prevailing cause of misery, will then be insufficient and in need of being expanded much further. Instead of generating misery, overproduction will reach beyond the elementary requirements of society to assure the satisfaction of the needs of all; it will create new needs and, at the same time, the means of satisfying them. It will become the condition of, and the stimulus to, new progress, which will no longer throw the whole social order into confusion, as progress has always done in the past. Big industry, freed from the pressure of private property, will undergo such an expansion that what we now see will seem as petty in comparison as manufacture seems when put beside the big industry of our own day. This development of industry will make available to society a sufficient mass of products to satisfy the needs of everyone."


It pretty much seems to me like he is saying "over production is actually good as long as the over production is planned for accordingly.

 No.287747

File: 1622352119221.mp4 (1.11 MB, 1280x576, sis spill the theory.mp4)

U read theory, sis?

(uh hello class this is an example of recuperation pls don't delete)

 No.287771

>>287437
it's expanding production that he's talking about as a good thing though. and we should keep in mind that we have the climate situation to deal with, so there are limits to which industries can actually be expanded. there's also a bit of language wrangling to be had over what "over"production actually means in a planned economy. agriculture will tend to have overproduction as a rule if we plan for the worst case and so always get bountiful harvests (relative to needs)cockshottCockshott

 No.287934

>>285394
Computers are not "proletariat". The proletariat is a specific class of people within the system of capitalism. Computers are not people. As for people who own stocks, if their relations to the means of production is still having to sell their labor for survival, it doesn't matter that they own a few shares. Their status is still one of being a prole.

 No.288140

Bump

 No.288152

>>287934
indeed. additionally, machines do not create value

 No.288321

>>287934
I didn't say computers were Prolotariate: I said engles defines a Prolotariate aa one who literally only sells his labor to survive. He makes a clear distinction between people who make a living off the internet; self employed people and a difference between people who hold stocks; and people who live off their own labor. He makes a clear distinction between them.

 No.288405

Well I just finished Principles of Communism, ama.

 No.288422

>>288405
is it boring

 No.288425

>>288422
6/10.

I enjoyed it.

 No.288537

What the list lacks currently:
· Essential proto-Marxist works to elucidate on how Marx and Engels came to the conclusions they did (for example important works on materialism and philosophy of science throughout the centuries prior)
· An orthodox Marxism section
· Marxism-Leninism (this one, simply by nature of its breadth and diversity, would need to be the largest list).

 No.288542

>>288537
It's a thread anon just post them here

 No.288567

>>288405
based, you did good

now keep on readingread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.288573

I'm reposting this Marxist (big tent) meta-list here:

PROTO
Ancient: Heraclitus, Parmenides, Democritus, Epicurus, Socrates, Aristotle, Lucretius Renaissance: Machiavelli, Copernicus
Early Modern: Galileo, Spinoza, Leibniz, Newton, Locke, Rousseau, Smith, Kant, the Jacobins Modernity: Hegel, the Utopian Socialists, Ricardo, Sismondi, Babbage, Feuerbach, Engels, Proudhon, Stirner, Darwin
MARXISTS
Modernity: Dietzgen, De Leon, Luxemburg, Lenin, Pannekoek, Grossman, Stalin, Gramsci
Post-WWII: Kantorovich, Hoxha, Mao, Kim, Ho, David Bohm, Fidel, Nkrumah, Glushkov, Guevara, Sweezy, Debord, Allen, Sison, Kaypakkaya, Anuradha Ghandy, Sankara
Post-1991: Yakovenko, Bellamy Foster, Cockshott, Cottrell, Shaikh, Roberts, Dmytri Kleiner, Dyer-WithefordmarxMarx

 No.288577

>>288573
What De Leon texts would you recommend.

 No.288602

Has anyone red the Grundrisse. The text seems even longer than capital. But from what ive skimmed it seems a bit more straightforward and easier to read

 No.288615

>>288573
I think Samir Amin deserves a mentioning if Foster gets one, no?

 No.288691

>>288615
Yes and Wallerstein

 No.289413

why do I seemingly get burnt out on even reading like twenty pages a day

i want to read more in general because im kind of a dumbass but I also want to be well read enough to push back on libs and fascists but I can't seem to get to the point where I read like a few books a month

 No.289419

>>289413
have you tried with audiobooks?caCanadien

 No.289434

>>289413
Set aside a block of time everyday during which you read a set number of pages. for me this is an hour or two before going to sleep.
You may also benefit from briefly switching genres. IDK what you consider to be light reading, but try some fiction books to get up to speed before returning to history/theory.

 No.289460

>>289419
oh, yeah, but the two audiobooks I tried I can barely even focus on anything because the narration was so fucking SHIT

i figured audiobooks would be cool for me since i listen to podcasts and random lectures on YT at my wagie job and retain almost everything but it's not the same

 No.289567

Hey /leftypol/. Just passing by to let everyone know about /read/: a collective of reading groups from /edu/. We host various different reading groups, and hold discussions over Matrix. If anyone here wants to discuss works of theory (such as those in the OP - note we're the authors of the Introduction to Marxism list), come on over to our Matrix. One of our groups just got done reading Capital vol1 and will be moving on to Lenin soon. Meanwhile, another one of our groups is gearing up to read Capital.

We have a Matrix community for discussion and a little website for our library and reading schedules. If you are interested, see our thread for the details >>>/edu/5912

I would also encourage anyone to post theory questions and threads over on >>>/edu/, a sadly underutilized board.

Without revolutionary theory, there can be no revolutionary movement.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.289571

>>289567
based theory nerds /edu/cating leftypol

 No.289641

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>>285223
Thoughts on this book?

 No.289642

>>289641
Never heard of it.
tldr;?

 No.289864

>>289642
I have the pdf in Spanish, there are like 350 pages.
I still don't read it, don't know if it's worth it

 No.289869


 No.290003

>our
fuck marx
fuck engels
fuck authoritarians
fuck communism
fuck youanarchismAnarchism

 No.290023

>>290003
>muh Authoritarianism
read uygha
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htmanarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism

 No.290037

>>290003
Cope and seethe

 No.290110

>>290023
>Wanting to abolish authority in large-scale industry is tantamount to wanting to abolish industry itself, to destroy the power loom in order to return to the spinning wheel.
what did that faggot mean by this?

 No.290133

>>290023
>>290037
>You must, therefore, confess that by "individual" you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible.
>t. state-worshipping karl marx
a despot, classicist zealot, and preeminant national zocialist

 No.290191


 No.290343

>>290003
>fuck authoritarians
ok boomer

 No.290369

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 No.290803

>>290003
this gentleman has not seen a revolution

 No.290823

>>290803
You can't sage a sticky. You know that?

 No.290909

>>290823
yeah, i just forgot to remove it

 No.291734

File: 1622595316841.jpg (10.67 KB, 300x305, 20210601_154159.jpg)

>All this MLM but not a single Cockshott or Parenti book

 No.291736

>>291734
Cockshott good
Parenti is nothing but a shill though. Kind of like the """""""""""""""intelectual""""""""""""""" equivalent of watching a review that you know it's going to be positive to reinforce your view

 No.292076

>>291734
There is a empirical marxism reading list somewhere around here

 No.292567


 No.292573

>>291736
>>292567
I mean he is a Historian that does a very good job at collecting positive facts to counter Anti-Communists. For a newbie, he is perfect. Why does /leftypol/ always need to shit up the party?

 No.292631

>>290110
seems pretty obvious, especially in context, since he spells it out very explicitly with examples. having no authority to manage whats happening with heavy equipment on a shop floor would be a disaster

 No.292769

>>291734
Post it you fucking retards. Do you need some one to hold your soyhands?

 No.292868

>>291734
Parenti is a pseud

 No.292880

>>292868
>>291736
>>292567
This is why nobody likes you retards.

 No.292885

>>292880
Recommend Parenti to your lib friends all you want, he's a great polemic writer. But if we're trying to educate Marxists, thinking people, we shouldn't suggest subpar or sloppy writers.

 No.292901

>>292885
>But if we're trying to educate Marxists, thinking people, we shouldn't suggest subpar or sloppy writers.
Holy LARP. This thread includes an Introduction to Marxism and an Absolute Beginners list. What is this retardation? You want to alienate everyone from your retarded reading groups?

 No.292928

>>292885
>Recommend Parenti to your lib friends all you want, he's a great polemic writer
That's how Parenti is recommended you retard. Nobody claims he is the highpriest of marxism
>>292901
Yeah, I don't know what his problem is

 No.292957

>>292928
> Nobody claims he is the highpriest of marxism
Except tankies

 No.294037

I don't know why people talk shit about the manifesto.
It's actually a very well written text.

 No.294200

>>285223
Why hasn't this been included in the OP? It's not strictly leftist but it's full of history books that are organized (by me). Someone put it in the list of previous leftypol boards iirc

https://mega.nz/folder/dlZlDbqL#TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA

 No.294372

>>294200
Actually if you added some of xi's work here or deng that would be appreciated.

 No.294702

>>294372
kek, why those two in particular? I haven't added books for a few years though, tbh. And i never got into adding books on communist china too much, only the republican period.

 No.294714

>>294702
Tbh i half way find myself agreeing with dengoids and half way not. I also like xi as a leader in and of himself and find his long history with the party to be note worthy.

I figure i should probably actually read the men before full on making my declarations about them. After reading mao ofc.

 No.294724

>>294714
I see. well you can try libgen, of course. I ultimately just compiled books from there. I've wanted to take up adding more and organizing the collection again but it's time consuming and I am not a NEET anymore. I really wanted to add more leftist history and theory too but never got the chance

 No.295520

am i stupid or does anti oedipus make no fucking sense

keep in mind i've read like 3 books in my life

 No.295564

>>295520
oedipus?

 No.295566

>>294200
>Patricia Crone
>Crawford Gribben
Some… odd choices

 No.295577

Does anyone have a PDF to that illustrated comic of the communist manifesto? Really been wanting to give that a read.

 No.295596

File: 1622812969038.gif (1.34 MB, 392x400, 1622140711633.gif)

"The people’s state has been flung in our teeth ad nauseam by the anarchists, although Marx’s anti-Proudhon piece and after it the Communist Manifesto declare outright that, with the introduction of the socialist order of society, the state will dissolve of itself and disappear. Now, since the state is merely a transitional institution of which use is made in the struggle, in the revolution, to keep down one’s enemies by force, it is utter nonsense to speak of a free people’s state; so long as the proletariat still makes use of the state, it makes use of it, not for the purpose of freedom, but of keeping down its enemies and, as soon as there can be any question of freedom, the state as such ceases to exist.

We would therefore suggest that Gemeinwesen ["commonalty"] be universally substituted for state; it is a good old German word that can very well do service for the French “Commune.”

OH NO NO NO NO TANKIE BROS WE GOT TO COCKY!

 No.295643

>>285236
lol u mad bro?

 No.295718

>>294372
Here you go

 No.296671

>>285289
I can’t stand communalists. Can a bookchinite anon recommend me a book? (hard mode: not the new revolution, I’ve already read that)gorroGorro

 No.296686

Does anyone here have a PDF of “The Politics and Economics of the transitional period” by Bukharin? Marxists.org doesn’t have it any everywhere else is paywalledgorroGorro

 No.296754

>>296686
I easily found it on libgen

 No.296797

>>296754
ThanksgorroGorro

 No.296866

File: 1622858921266-0.jpg (34.19 KB, 425x319, Brecht.jpg)

File: 1622858921266-1.jpg (79.37 KB, 768x508, Ngugi.jpg)

File: 1622858921266-2.jpg (57.83 KB, 768x512, Upton Sinclair.jpg)

There are lots of great theory recs ITT, but who are the best left-wing (I mean really left-wing, not just liberal/succdem) fiction writers, and what are their best works?tankieTankie

 No.296870

File: 1622859468158.png (330.43 KB, 550x360, ThePoisonwoodBible-01.png)

>>296866
I liked this when I read it 10 years ago
basically a story of a missionary attempting to spread their religion in the congo in the 50s or somewhere around there
things go horribly wrong

 No.296872

>>296870
I actually read that in AP English, and now that I think of it it was pretty redpilled on neocolonialism. I'll add it to my list.tankieTankie

 No.297225

>>295566
>Patricia Crone
In the middle eastern section? Not all of her work is discredited, right?
>Crawford Gribben
had to look it up, but i assume he is in the ireland section? I had wanted to start by putting books on northern ireland (ideally I would like to put every single book on ireland in there eventually, but that is ambitious), but I never got around to thoroughly organizing it. Generally, I just strip mind libgen on a certain historical topic and then organized them in a logical fashion, but that means there's a lot of blindspots where I put some shitty historians, though I like to think that I'm more knowledgeable than most people about this stuff

 No.297801

>>296866
Brecht is definitely up Top 3.

 No.297805

>>295520
No it's deliberately written to make sense only to a schizo. If you can't read that much, watch this vid. It's as decent as "youtube philosophy" gets

 No.298833

>>297805
>actually, being skitzo is based

Why I come here, the.

 No.298854

>>298833
What do you mean?

 No.298884

>>297805
I'd say Deleuzian views appeal to a rather small minority of this community.

 No.298886

>>298884
Depends. If you watch the video or read Deleuze, you can see that he is really criticizing this "LARPing" and commodification process of identity, ideologies etc. that we see so much on social media, especially leftist social media. Some things he says are alright

 No.299019

>>285862
>>285918
I still found it

 No.299830

>>299019
Based. Bless you anon.

 No.299832

>>298854
I come here for takes like this lol.

 No.299973

>>299832
I mean…it makes sense in a way. Capitalism really is schizophrenic in its destructiveness

 No.300018

>>299973
TDLR; Didn't watch the video.

the video actually talks about how schizophrenia is actually anti-thetical to capitalism because it is to unpredictable to comodify.

 No.300030

>>300018
So if we don't want to be commodified like identities or even ideologies, we should become schizophrenic or stepping out of the boundaries?

 No.300036

>>300030
More, or, less; I would say "kind of." I think that more so what Deluze is pointing out is the inherently fundamental nature of the skitzo and how that becomes uncommodifiable. We have to have some level of ideological framing or grounding or else we loose our ability to pressure and subvert the system of capital, but, to a degree I would agree.

 No.300998

>>300036
I agree but just to clarify. What is the "fundamental nature" of the skitzo that makes him so difficult to commodify? And by ideological framing or grounding you mean a robust theoretical framework to reference, I assume? Something the ideology shoppers or people that take are obsessed with taking on identities, lack?

 No.301027

The Lenin(ist) reading list so far is fucking anemic
0 Stalin? 8 Bordiga? Really guys? And the OP was made over a week ago at this point.

 No.301222

>>301027
>>301027
>>301027

Post it you fucking retards.

 No.301409

>>285223
Unironically valuable insight.

 No.303366

Currently reading manufacturing consent.
Thoughts?

 No.303382

>>303366
It's fine but read the original too

 No.303389

>>303382
Shitttttt, I forgot thia was a thing. I'll read that too. For sure.

 No.304365

>"On July 31, the physical distancing requirement changes. If a workplace has unvaccinated employees, an employer would have a choice under the new rules: require everyone to be masked and physically distanced, or require unvaccinated employees to wear a respirator such as an N95 and others to wear at least a cloth face covering."

 No.305017

File: 1623167225926.jpg (152.93 KB, 1080x1620, marxism-reading.jpg)

Hey /leftypol/, /read/ here. So we've had lots of whining about lack of a Marxist-Leninist reading list, but surprisingly few actual recommendations. The mods are willing to edit the OP if more stuff is to be added. So, how about we make a Marxism-Leninism reading list, /leftypol/?

In the /read/ chat we came up with a few suggestions for books of various authors which are relevant to MLism (regardless of whether or not they considered themselves as such).

Stalin:
- Foundations of Leninism
- Dialectical and Historical Materialism
- Marxism and the National Question

Lukács:
- History and Class Consciousness

Che Guevara:
- Reminiscences of the Cuban Revolutionary War
- Socialism and Man in Cuba

We also thought of adding works by Ho Chi Minh and Antonio Gramsci, but we have refrained from doing so, as none of us are quite familiar with their works. Anyone have suggestions?read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.305020

File: 1623167340086-0.png (65.14 KB, 611x436, index.png)

>>305017
For Gramsci we found this neat book by Foreign Languages Press which seems interesting. Pic related is what's in it.

Is this a good suggestion for an introduction to Gramsci's works?read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.306589

Why does the Marxist.org intro to wage labor and capital shit on The LTV? Lol

 No.307179

Anyone has this book either in spanish or english? I swear i can't find it anywhereallendeAllende

 No.307219

>>307179
It's on libgen.

 No.307225

>>285223
We should add a link to libgen, marxist.org and z-library to the OP so people know where to look for books.

 No.307234

>>307225
>so people know where to look for books
I prefer physical books. What are some of the best publishers for socialists? Monthly Review, Verso are the ones I know about, but what else?

 No.307998

Not exactly a theory book, but I really like Stites' attempts at categorizing the grassroots socialist movements of the USSR manifested in utopian experiments, and how they were reinventions of old Russian utopian ideals in a sense.transhumanismTranshumanism

 No.308130

>>295718
>last pic
lmfao

 No.308132

>>297805
>British accent
piss off

 No.308481

Was cleaning my bookmarks and found transhumanistbunkerchan is dead. It was pretty embarassing as it was, but really? This is the replacement? A mold-infested interface peddlng same failed 150 year old shit? How many of you woke up at 5 am to catch the bus to the commie factory you lazy STD infested eunuchs? None.

And the rules of this site… hilarious
>Hey fellow commies, did you prep your wife's bull today?

Lol @ ''wife" … you fucking losers

 No.308489

>>308481
(You) have aids and your wife is made for CCP

 No.308508

>32 page manifesto on the front cover
32<720

 No.309022

>>285394
>>285272
>>285858
You people are all morons and need to read capital

 No.309024

>>288602
The beginning is deceptively straightforward, then it hits the Chapter on Money and goes into Finnegan's Wake Territory

 No.309029

>>291734
Cuz he's a moron who thinks that the problem with "socialism" in the USSR is that the state planners couldn't set prices right. Not only does he bend over for Stalinism, he even accepts the bourgeois critiques of "socialism" hook, line, and sinker.

 No.309498

>>308132
Kys burger. The guy isn't even british, but it's not your fault your education system failed you

 No.309500

>>309029
Citations needed you stupid trot

 No.309923

>>305017
if anything you need to trim the marxist leninist stuff from the OP.

The absolute last thing a modern, new leftist needs is to be given a reading list of like 30 books published a hundred years ago. Capital is essential, but everything else is optional.

 No.309969

>>309923
>pls stop making people read things i don't agree with
>it's unfair giving them the advantage to have them actually know about the shit i am just shitposting over

 No.310249

I'm writing a paper on India's independence movement, and I'm trying to find some contemporary works which debated the merit of violent resistance to the British. Gandhi wrote an article in 1929 condemning violence called "The Cult of the Bomb," which received a response in defense of violence from the Marxist revolutionary Bhagwati Charan, entitled "The Philosophy of the Bomb." I wanted to read both of these but I can't seem to find the actual text of Gandhi's article anywhere, only references to it in other works. Does anybody know where to find it?sabo-tabbySabo-Tabby

 No.310608

>>309500
If we’re accepting Parentis standards then articles in the Nytimes and Washington Post should be good enough ?

 No.311182

>>309498
>burger
stay mad, my teeth are white and I don't bow to an old hag

 No.311739

>>310608
I'm sorry, I thought you meant Cockshott. Parenti is pretty decent for the average normie that wants to go beyond social democracy. Idk why you are being so harsh a critic with him now

 No.311742

>>311182
Do you need to be an autist in the reading thread?

 No.312101

File: 1623414654345-1.pdf (1.19 MB, 67x118, VOL048.pdf)

>>310249
On libgen there is a file that contains a shit ton of Gandhi's writings in 100 volumes. I've been combing over it and haven't stumbled upon that particular article, but I have uploaded the volume here that covers the period during which he would have written it. Pic related is a denunciation of the event in front of the Indian National Congress that led him that led him to rwite the article, so I might stumble upon it soon. But this might suffice because I'm sure the material here mimics what he wrote in that article at the time

 No.312121

>>312101
Found the article! It was a few pages later

 No.312839

Archiving here for… reasonstechnocracyTechnocracy

 No.313237

John Smith- Imperialism in the Twenty First Century

should go in the Marxist essentials list

 No.314261

File: 1623510352267.jpg (110.28 KB, 400x500, socialistlabour.jpg)

>>312121
>>312101
Beyond based, thanks Anon.sabo-tabbySabo-Tabby

 No.314733

>>314261
good luck! were you able to find the philosophy of the bomb?

 No.314838

>>310249
>The Philosophy of the Bomb
Are you sure it's by Bhagwati Charan? I found this but it's by Bhagat Singh

 No.315240

Attentionlet here: Is any of Gnome Chompy accessible to beginners, or does the linguist expect a well-read audience? In particular, is Manufacturing Consent beginner friendly? If not, I'll start on the beginner reading list.
For reference, I burned out after the first chapter of the Communist Manifesto (although maybe 19th century works are a different tier).

 No.315246

>>315240
I am currently reading manufacturing consent. It is not hard for me to stay connected to or read at all, anon. FYI.

 No.315790

>>315240
There's nothing wrong with reading at your own pace. As you work reading back into your schedule you're attention span will return. Read a page a day if you have to

 No.316054

>>285223
May I suggest a cute non-ideological book on the GDR (there is cool info on sex in Central Germany),
>Katherine Pence, Paul Betts - Socialist Modern: East German Everyday Culture and Politics
And this one,
>Fulbrook, Mary. The People's State: East German Society from Hitler to Honecker (Yale University Press, 2005)

 No.319343

>>316054
>windows
already losinganarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism

 No.319932

Has anyone read any Franz Fanon? I’m thinking about reading his “Wretched of the Earth”, is it any good?

 No.319976

>>319932
Yeah, it's based. So is black skins white masks

 No.320109

>>314733
Yeah I found it on the Anarchist Library.
>>314838
I've seen it attributed to a number of others, I mentioned Charan because that's who it was credited to in the book I'm reading on the Hindustan Socialist Republican Army.sabo-tabbySabo-Tabby

 No.323435


 No.325171

as someone who does not understand how national liberation is Marxist in any sense, that has only read some Lenin, what are some good books on Marxist national liberation?marxMarx

 No.325512

>>316054
I'll admit I haven't read either of those, but "non-ideological book on the GDR" seems unlikely to me.

>>325171
The Wretched of the Earth (Fanon).tankieTankie

 No.325828

>>285223
How do I start on Critical Theory?brocialismBrocialism

 No.326184

File: 1624074764234.jpg (356.64 KB, 1536x2048, 20210618_224743.jpg)

anyone happen to have a pdf of this?

 No.326213

File: 1624076630977.pdf (771.6 KB, 232x300, CRT.pdf)

>>326184
Nevermind, found it

 No.326232

>>326213
Fuck that shit anon, just read Fanon

 No.326367

File: 1624083920348.jpg (941.89 KB, 999x3158, suicide note condensed.jpg)

>>285223
Has anyone else here read "Suicide Note" by Mitchell Heisman?

Here's the link to the text:
https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/suicide_note.pdf
(Read pp. 32 - 625)

TL;DR: https://www.scribd.com/document/198985140/Mitchell-Heisman-s-suicide-note-overview

Alternatively you can listen to it while gaming: https://youtu.be/BiMZi5P7WJA

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkg6y0uFLHOyAX4BlU6tlnp1qW4l2aFEA

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>>325828
Maybe Paulo Freire's "The Pedagogy Of The Oppressed"?

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Is Carr's History still the go-to history for beginners? Others? Thx

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>>331381
I mean, just read Marx. But keep in mind that debating and rhetoric aren't tied to being right or correct. It's theatrical. If you want to pwn people in debates or whatever, learn to screech like the grifters do.

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There are a lot of islamists and naive leftists who don't know the history of Iran in this board. I suggest the former to fuck off and go back to /pol/ and the latter fuckers to read up.

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/wl/wl3-5.pdf

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KHOMEINEI EY IMAM
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>>332207
YA ALI
YA ALI
YA ALI

 No.337512

Who is a better companion to kapital? Harvey or Heinrich. A companion I will read and probably never get to kapital itself because it's hard as balls.

 No.338222

>>337512
They're both good. Harvey is more of an explainer, while Heinrich is more of a critical analysis/new reading. That said, neither companion really serves as a substitute for the book itself. They're made to be read alongside Capital, not in its place. It can be difficult, but there's no replacement for it. Seriously, read the book. It's more about persistence than being le big brain theory man.

Discussing with others and asking questions can help a great deal. For this purpose, there is a new friendly Capital reading group just starting over at >>>/edu/5912

 No.338450

So there's this Chibber dude who looks like the average leftypol dude but he actually reads and with the power of autism he wrote a three hundred pages book about how the libs are destroying real communism and how Leninism is the way forward, all this fighting strawmen all the way.
I'm surprised it's not there so here you go.

 No.339361

>>325512
>Fanon
not a marxist

 No.339369

>>337512
Harvey butchers value (and in general misses a lot) and Heinrich rejects falling rate of profit as well as saying other wild shit. I enjoyed Cleaver's notes personally.accelerationAcceleration

 No.339371

>>339369
Also none of the companions really work as a standalone work. They are meant to be a supplement/clarification for your own notes.accelerationAcceleration

 No.339834

>>339361
He was pretty much a marxist. In western academia he isn't treated as one, sure. But consider that he read and drew great inspiration from the works of Marx, Mao and even the very short works of Ho Chi Minh and wrote extensive critiques of german idealism, not to mention his involvement with anti-colonial and anti-imperialist revolution. While perhaps not an explicit marxist, Fanon is marxist-adjacent enough that we can consider him at the very least a crypto-marxist. Marxist readings of Fanon seem much more fruitful than whatever "decolonial" academic libs seem to be doing with him.

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>>339834
>But consider that he read and drew great inspiration from the works of Marx, Mao and even the very short works of Ho Chi Minh and wrote extensive critiques of german idealism
So did Nick Land
>not to mention his involvement with anti-colonial and anti-imperialist revolution.
So did most right-wing nationalists from the third world, which is what Fannon is

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>>341263
t. coping westoid

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>>345327
sci hub has been frozen with no new uploads of papers since December 2020

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>>285223
What are some great books on leftist praxis?

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praxis guide: go outside

 No.349752

Can someone write up on good leftist extra resources like journals, magazines, blogs, publishers etc.?

 No.353920

How is the site called again, where one can get free files of all kinds of literary works? It was "lib"-something.socialismSocialism

 No.353927

>>353920
libgen

 No.354378

>>353920
Z-library is another good place to check when you are looking for books.

 No.354587

Fuck it. Add Grover Furr.

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>>353927
Thanks, comrade.socialismSocialism

 No.360844

>>285260
semen please

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>>360844
I know someone who can help you with that

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Any good audiobooks out there?

 No.366796

>>285227
Nobody who reads could ever be a Marxist.
He’s right with his critics about capitalism but he’s horribly wrong on the solutions.

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>>366796
>but he’s horribly wrong on the solutions.
What are his solutions then. Go on and detail them please

 No.366852

>>366796
t. never read Marx

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>>285223
the killer of racists, fascists, right winger extremists and liberals

What are your thoughts on the USSR doing this or Communist supporters doing this?bolshevikBolshevik

 No.367424

>>367420
>"Can't cook an omelet without first cracking a few eggs"
-Joseph Stalin

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>>367424
they arent human with right to live but eggs?bolshevikBolshevik

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>>367426
>human

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>>366796
sounds like my anarchist phase

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kyros

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>>326213
i read part of this and scanned through and it seems highly subversive, weaving valid points in with quick conflations trying to make division the book itself agrees are social constructs be equivalent to hard reality-derived divisions

 No.384924

What book would someone recommend to go in depth on why collectivism vs individualism is a false dichotomy?

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>>384924
it isn't though

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Does anyone have a good history book about the first red scare?

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>>385610
>>385956
I don't mean it in a greed sense or anything like that, but more in that you can be collectively focused while still expressing your own individuality.

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>>386291
To often /leftypol/ thinks that because personal liberty needs to be partially suspended during a revolution, that because of this, personal liberty as a concept is inherently reactionary.

 No.388164

I wanted to post this as a joke in /b/, but honestly how do we start reading like 2 books a day? Some of the right is slowly becoming more intellectual in their bullshit, and it's becoming more obvious to me that you basically need to know everything ever to properly engage with them

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>>388164
This is your idea of a "sophisiticated" rightoid channel?

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>>388192
NTA, but it's it's someone's idea of one, isn't that enough? Manipulation is manipulation no matter how dumb you think it is.

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>>388192
>>388664
Yeah that's the thing, it's stupid but it's still presents the veneer of sophistication and when these people start spouting off about philosophy you better be fucking strapped or they'll just drown you in bullshit

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>>388840
>>388664
I mean if this is your reason to finally read Hegel, then I won't interfere

 No.392227

hey hey I have found a few in the megas in this thread, but I am looking for a reading list/mega about american and/or european imperialism. I just want a book where the us is the bad guy. thanks

 No.393157

>>392227
don't have a reading list, but check out Vijay Prashad's "Washington Bullets: A History of the CIA, Coups, and Assassinations"

 No.393583

nice

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what are some basic hoxhaists texts?

 No.394321

>>295520
you gotta read all philosophy books before reading delueze

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philosophy reading list pls (complete and everything, fully so I understand Hegel and philosophy generally)

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Wealth of Nations and Capital: are they enough for understanding economics?
And about Ricardo, which book is his main work that I need to read?

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>>396550
Focus on those, you don't need to read Ricardo after MarxslavojSlavoj

 No.396979

>https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/09/20.htm
>to dupe the masses with high-sounding phrases about peace in order to prepare for a new war; to dazzle the masses with the brilliance of “democracy” in order to consolidate the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie; to stun the masses with clamour about the “sovereign” rights of nations and states in order the more successfully to prepare for intervention in China, for slaughter in Afghanistan and in the Sudan, for the dismemberment of Persia
d- did Stalin just casually predict all this shit?

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 No.397034

>>396979
wait this shit was IN FUCKING 1924!!!???

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>>396979
>casually predicted
Anyone could've read the news. Imperialism started decades and decades ago. Hello, century of humiliation? Brits in Afghanistan? imperialism in India? Newfags lurk more.

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>But even then the cul-de-sac stares one in the face. Look at England. The last new market which could bring on a temporary revival of prosperity by its being thrown open to English commerce is China. Therefore English capital insists upon constructing Chinese railways. But Chinese railways mean the destruction of the whole basis of Chinese small agriculture and domestic industry, and as there will not even be the counterpoise of a Chinese grande industrie, hundreds of millions of people will be placed in the impossibility of living. The consequence will be a wholesale emigration such as the world has not yet seen, a flooding of America, Asia and Europe by the hated Chinaman, a competition for work with the American, Australian and European workman on the basis of the Chinese standard of life, the lowest of all – and if the system of production has not been changed in Europe before that time, it will have to be changed then.

Engels predicted reform and opening up

 No.408818

>>402941
Interesting, but completely incorrect about dire consequences for Chinese people leading to mass emigration

 No.408822

>>396550
Adam Smith writes like shit and I don't think there's much to be gained from reading him, you'll get the gist on both him and Ricardo by reading Vol 2accelerationAcceleration

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>>394321
just nietzsche, spinoza, marx and maybe bergson (though i never bothered), stop to appreciate artists he namedropsaccelerationAcceleration

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>>386213
Haven't read it but there's a book called Savage Peace by Ann Hagedorn that covers the chaos of 1919, including race riots and the red scare

 No.422542

I feel like I should read more during my downtime in work instead of shitposting. Is there anyway to make it more pleasant on the eyes other than just going through the pdf in adobe?

 No.422956

>>422542
e-readers are great, highly recommended. if you're short for cash you can find a used kindle for a good price

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>>422542
I think the best you can do on a computer is to lower your screen brightness and maybe use a blue light filter (although it's questionable whether they even help). Using epubs instead of PDFs is also good as Adobe Reader is an absolute piece of shit and epubs can be quite comfortable to read. Of course none of this compares to physical books or ereaders, so perhaps try to get a cheap Kobo or maybe a Kindle.

 No.423449

>>422968
Are e-readers that much better? I like to read on the phone because it's like right there and I can go on libgen and immediately download stuff

 No.423453

>>423449
There is an ereader thread on /tech/ with recommendations
I love my ereader because it reads epubs, mobis, and pdfs, and the battery life is insane.
I get most of my books from 1lib, but sometimes i go out of my way to look for .epubs

 No.423648

>>423449
the thing about ereaders is that they don't use regular backlit displays which fuck with your eyes, but e-ink displays, which resemble real paper more. it's a very different experience.

 No.424516

>>422968
I prefer to read actual books when I can for sure but I'm in an office I can pass off reading on the screen as working. I've tried out using an epub instead and it does seem better for sure so thanks on that front.

 No.424596

>>422956
Buying an eReader and pritaing books is cheaper than buying paper versions and much more pleasant than reading on your computer screen

 No.425409

>>337512
>Harvey or Heinrich
Here is a quote from Capital, chapter one: "Skilled labour counts only as simple labour intensified, or rather, as multiplied simple labour, a given quantity of skilled being considered equal to a greater quantity of simple labour. Experience shows that this reduction is constantly being made. A commodity may be the product of the most skilled labour, but its value, by equating it to the product of simple unskilled labour, represents a definite quantity of the latter labour alone."
When the products are exchanged in the market, the product made by X hours of skilled work is usually worth more than the product made by X hours of unskilled work, so some quantity of skilled labor is equated to some (bigger) quantity of unskilled labor in the market. Harvey's comment: "Marx never explains what ‘experience’ he has in mind, making this passage highly controversial." Then more confused rambling follows.

Here's a quote from the foreword of Capital: "The value-form, whose fully developed shape is the money-form, is very elementary and simple. Nevertheless, the human mind has for more than 2,000 years sought in vain to get to the bottom of it all…"
Heinrich says repeatedly that value is specific to capitalism.

These people aren't helping with understanding anything. I say just read Capital. Take your time, don't make any rules about reading X pages per day, just pick up the book regularly.

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>>337512
None. Harvey is a dumbass who denies that Marx had a LTV at all. Heinrich is just as stupid. Just read the book, working class people in the 19th and 20th century read it on their lunch break. Also saying 'kapital' is a LARP

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testpalestinePalestine

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remove name

 No.431309

>>337512
Just be a chad and read both and come to your own educated conclusions. Don't be afraid to go against the grain if you disagree with some of the remarks made. Marx has been interpreted and will continue to be so for a long time and there won't ever be a perfect reading of him. Classics like Capital are read and reread because new bits make impressions that didn't before.

 No.432159

PIN THIS FOR NEWCOMERS, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO LURK FOR RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA AND RADLIB VOMIT

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>>432159
it is stickied you dummy, always has beenread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.433877

>>433847
The mistake is understandable on our newfriend's part, as he, and most of us probably, use the overboards and that kind of negates pinned threads unfortunately.
I wonder if this would be worth changing now that we have 3 types of overboards?

 No.434235

been getting into theory and recently got Value, Price and Profit + Wage Labour and Capital. i am just wondering what the utility of reading this is if labor theory of value is false? or is that porky propaganda? there seems to be a good amount of valid points against it

 No.435224

any book recs on planned economy?
especially anything regarding OGAS?socialismSocialism

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>>434235
Short answer: Keep on reading. Then read Capital.

Long answer: There is no simple answer to the question of the LTV's validity. There are two main ways of dealing with this, I would say. Some of those in the tradition of so-called Marxian Economics have brought out empirical evidence of it. Cockshott is an example of this, and he is quite popular on this board, as I'm sure you've seen. Other thinkers, like the Neue-Marx-Lekture people, point out that Marx wasn't really an advocate of the LTV as it is normally understood, as that was the theory of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, etc, and Marx was really criticising it. These people prefer to present Marx's theory as primarily critical, not descriptive in a positive sense. Michael Heinrich is a representative of this kind of theory.

Here's a video of Cockshott discussing the labor theory of value and his take on its validity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emnYMfjYh1Q . Attached are a few PDFs from Cockshott + Cottrell arguing in favor of the LTV and a PDF of Michael Heinrich criticizing so-called Marxian Economics. I don't fully endorse either position, just posting them so you can get a wider view of these things.

Ultimately I'll tell you to keep on reading what you are reading, as it is very important. And read Capital, as it is the most important book you can read regarding these questions.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.435711

>>435290
holy shit, thanks a ton. really appreciated

 No.435824

Got any recommendations for rightoids on idpol and the culture war, urban rural antagonism, neoliberalism and the nation-state, what role liberal civil society has in capitalism/imperialism, how nationalist populism relates to imperialism and if it's 'fascist'rethuglicanRethuglican

 No.436362

>>435824
The Managerial Revolution by Burnham. All of Burnham is fine for paleocon stuff.
Leviathan and its enemies by Samuel Francis.

 No.436531

>>436362
I meant marxoid stuff for the recordrethuglicanRethuglican

 No.436553

>>436531
Unironically the cultural Marxists like Adorno and the culture industry

 No.438266

>>436531
You really don't need books to figure out the standard perspective of many of these issues.
>Neoliberalism
Most Marxist theoreticians died before ever seeing this stage of capitalism; in any case you can get the main perspective by just browsing the site of literally any communist group or website regardless of sectarian differences.
Generally the line is:
<Neoliberalism was inevitable since the falling rate of profit caused the dissolution of the post-WW2 consensus which itself was an abnormality in the overall history of capitalism since capitalism always been barbaric
>Urban-Rural Antagonism
Any serious Marxist will admit that forced collectivization is necessary and that the peasantry/farmers do not factor into classical Marxist class analysis. Lenin's tactical considerations such as land reform and NEP may be resorted to if necessary, but the overall goal to address rural/urban antagonism is to prole-atize the countryside by forcing all agricultural workers to get onto state-managed collective farms and to establishing a basic standard of living and benefits to avoid alienation.
>IDPOL/Culture War
You already got everything you needed by browsing this board - basically all culture/race/etc. issues are distractions and convenient diversions organized by or seized upon by the ruling elite to avoid economic questions; I think Marx(?) or some other socialist talked about this when he remarked on the uselessness of the pro and anti-Prohibition debate as sucking up time and energy and distracting people from actual pressing problems.
>Imperialism and Liberal Society
Unironically just read The Grayzone or follow their writers or even just MSM and highlight a work every time it mentions "human rights" "humanitarian intervention" etc. for examples on how modern day liberal signaling cues are utilized in service of imperialist objectives.
>National Populism vs Fascism
Too many people have too little grounding in Fascism, specifically historical fascism in Italy and Germany and how it played out, so I would actually recommend two books in this case:

1) Fascism and Big Business by Daniel Guerin
Goes over the two most famous fascist regimes in history by utilizing sources from that period (including the Fascists' own periodicals and newspapers) and analyzing what they were really (materially) doing. This is a pretty short read so I'd recommend this first.

2) Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze
Entirely focused on Nazi Germany, Tooze advances a thesis of how the Fascist outlook of Nazi Germany's society and leaders led inexorably to war and imperialism.

Having developed a better understanding of historical Fascist regimes, their characteristics, and how they came to power, you can then utilize your own brain and your own analysis of modern "Right-Populist" or nationalist political movements to figure out whether or not they really are Fascist. I'll leave it up to you but this is something you have to decide for yourself.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.438602

>>438266
Thanks anon
I just need stuff from a marxist perspective to make sense of the conflict between liberalism and populismrethuglicanRethuglican

 No.438695

>>438266
>Any serious Marxist will admit that forced collectivization is necessary
Whoa hold on there. Wtf are you saying right now? Is forced collectivization the reason why the USSR lost its dual-power base of workers and peasants? Some theorists even argue that this was the reason the bureaucracy could become as bad as it did

 No.438855

>>438695
>Is forced collectivization the reason why the USSR lost its dual-power base of workers and peasants
Not at all, collectivization allowed peasants greater participation in soviets

 No.439498

This is not a joke or a shitpost but I'm finally starting Capital Vol 1 and I kinda don't want to because I feel like it's going to alienate me from other people even more

like what the fuck type of dude gets a girlfriend reading this shit

 No.439632

>>439498
Hi PoMo

 No.439757

>>439745
>what is citizenship

 No.439825

Hey bros I’m a newbie to philosophy and I wanted to know if it was better to start with: Camus, la Boetie, Plato, Sartre or Vaneigem.

 No.439958

>>439825
Raul Vaneigem because he is very easy to read. If you plan on reading the Situ's you will get a better all around understanding from him as a beginner than you will anyone else.

 No.440052

>>439958
Thanks! I also thought about Freud, Rousseau or Badiou but they're longer and harder I think

 No.441293

>>440052
If the ideas Vanegiem portrays interests you I'd move on to Debord and probably get the Situationist Anthology if english is your first language. It's probably the best one to have.
https://www.akpress.org/situationistinternationalanthology.html In fact i'd say it's a very good one to start with, too.anarchismAnarchism

 No.441303

>>441293 (me)
Oh, and don't let any sperg intimidate you out of reading them through an irrational froffing hatred of 'post-modernists'.
I know it shouldn't be said but it seems all to common in modern day.

 No.443208

Anyone got anything for the history of Arab and Chinese nationalism, Latin American and African anti imperialist/populist movements, and communist interactions with these?

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 No.445595

Does anyone have a copy of Adorno's essay 'Spengler after the Downfall"

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>>439498
Why would it preclude you from getting a girlfriend?

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>>285223
Please add https://y2mate.red/ to the Frontpage links it's a (communist) free video/audio downloader that allows people to take videos from a lot of different video uploading sites. It's been pretty useful for me.

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 No.454036

>>453087
What makes a video downloader "communist"?

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>>439498
Not that anon but I feel the same, it's like I'm afraid of learning something new. Any books about this feeling? Give me something.

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Ok I'm close to finishing off Chapter 3 of Capital Volume 1 and I don't understand ANY of this bullshit

Some parts blow my fucking mind but I feel like you have to read this book like 12 times if you're a brainlet

Do you think the average right winger has read this shit?

btw no gf still

 No.454315

>>454216
>MuH WaNgZ
>MuH PrEcIeOuS PoLiTiCaL WaNgZ!!!

 No.454336

>>290003
>bunch angry, fragile gibberish
But yeah, I feel the same way, lol. Fuck someone
telling me not to masterbate in the common area.
>>288573
Good. Thanks. A few of those I missed on my first-pass of theory.
Any good suggestions for ykno practical applications of all this theory and theorizin' and big brain shit?
Like, an account or journal of someone on the ground when this took place and began to work out
I'm assuming on some small scale, but I have heard that even most small communes fold in a decade, and that's been my real life experience as well. So, maybe …yknow I'm sorta answering my own question here but a "The Farm" bio by ol Sehephen Gasgin or whatever his name is, something along those lines but more Leftypol approved?

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>>441303


aw, no epubs? Lp so basic!
Fine…

 No.454373

>>454346
We get a hardon for proprietary formats.

 No.454395

>>454346
epubs should be allowed, were you unable to upload them? If so, what happened?

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>>454395
>>423453
>>422968
>>423449
>>423648
>>424516
>>424596
ON BUYING PHYSICAL BOOKS:
1st off, fuck paying 5-6 dollars for a fucking used paperback. Went into ye olde 1.2price bookstore. Yeah, fuck you and fuck all that. Plus, the amount of times these assholes have swindled me out of money when I was going through Dts/WDs and hard up for cash, they don't pay diddly shit and turn around and rape you. I used to go dumpster dive and sell the treasures at the next 1/2 price. Pickedup a lot of old Playboys and interesting collage material and a few good old ones. Made gas money and beer money for the night that way …for a few months. Etc. No one cares but anyways…it's a tactic anyone here can take up if you need scratch in a hurry. What else?

EREADERS:
Can't Kindle erase all your books? And with the coming …I'm not even sure what they, or anyone, currently calls it but: Big tech browsing, scanning all your files to market segment ads to you, specifically, based on psychographics and possible harassing or just 'straight up' deleting files you acquired illegally]…not so sure buying a dedicated ereader is a good choice, but freely admit that I'm not really aware of the issues.
As far as …all that I mentioned above, the same applies on any PC you have connected online, esp if not running Linux or Linux based OS. (Which is a huge pain in the asshole as 90% of your softwares will require FT work to get them to run on Linux or Linux based OSs?)
Anyhow, I have a dedicated tablet with …fgn who knows, probably 10GBs of epubs and pdfs and use Lithium to read, highlight (only on epubs) and etc. I know Alexandra Elbakyan personally and thank her every time I see here for risking her life for her beliefs. (-_-)
>>454395
No dice it just showed an 'x' and ..

 No.454616

>>454610
What I'm suggesting here is 'chain' diving used bookstores. These wasteful snobs can be exploited and you'd be saving books from the garbage.

 No.455276

>>455207
Remember to boycott America

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>>454610
Don't buy a kindle, buy a kobo

 No.456810

Hey guys. I want to become a Marxist journalist. How do I learn to analyze current political events like Marx would?

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>>439498
just don't be sperglord

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>>456810
You learn by first having a sound theoretical base (that is read your damn books), getting knowledgeable regarding the events/country for which you want to write an article (not necessarily Marxist works or sources) and then post your article somewhere where enough people can read it and criticise it. Incorporate the good faith criticisms into your next works (you might encounter many sectarian based critics, e.g. "You have not cited my favourite obscure author of my microsect therefore you're an enemy of the proletariat", so you'll have to wade through those in order to get valuable inputs).
In other words:
STUDY, STUDY, STUDY
WRITE, WRITE, WRITE
REPEAT AD VITAM AETERNAM

 No.457405

>>439498
If you actually have a personality being cultured and well read is a huge boon.

 No.458252

Anyone here have any suggestions for a biography on Marx and Engels? I'm looking for something more specifically on how they organized and fought for socialism in there lifetimes beyond writing theory.

 No.458315

>>458252
Best resource for that is their letters and correspondence. The MECW is what you want, all 50 volumes of it.

 No.458321

>>458315
MECW? What is that?

 No.458683

>>458321
Marx & Engels's Collected Works.

 No.458843

Thinking about starting an audiobook for when I'm commuting/exercising. Is there a specialised pirate site for this or am I just going to have to fork over the cash to amazon if I can't find something I want?

 No.458961

>>458843
have you tried just googling your desired book in audio format? a lot of them are distributed for free, you might even find something on youtube

 No.460159

>>458961
Yeah this gets the job done most of the time but sometimes it's a battle so was just checking there wasn't a libgen esque site I was missing out on.

 No.460166

Can anyone recommend a book that covers the Prague Spring and the reforms it involved?

 No.462203

Does anyone have a backup of the law of value youtube series? https://kapitalism101.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/the-law-of-value-2-the-fetishism-of-commodities/

Seems to be missing from youtube

 No.462285

>>462203
the whole series was collected into this one big video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb6dXR6AfXE

 No.462319

>>462285
Amazing thanks anon.

 No.462523


 No.462952

>>462523
I love capitalism with socialist characteristics

 No.463068

A thread was made a while back on Venice and Athenian democracy. Did anyone by chance keep the names of the books?

 No.463102

>>463068
I only have this one.

 No.465924

>>458252
Hal Draper's Karl Marx's Theory of Revolution is all you need. Read all 5 books.

 No.467249

>>458252
>I'm looking for something more specifically on how they organized and fought for socialism in there lifetimes beyond writing theory.
Read The Historic Accomplishment of Karl Marx by Karl Kautsky. It's a relatively brief pamphlet (written as a series of lectures) that specifically cuts out all the biographical and theoretical details to focus on Marx and Engels' political strategy in the Communist League and First International, and how it differed from the various communist sects of their time. It was only translated recently but it's seriously good.
>inb4 "Kautsky was a revisionist renegade"
This was by pre-renegade Kautsky and Lenin specifically endorsed this work. In fact the famous quote attributed to Lenin that Marxism is the "combination of German philosophy, English economics, and French socialism" is copied pretty much directly from Kautsky's pamphlet.
>>458315
>>465924
I second these recommendations, especially Hal Draper's books at least the first volume is good.

Finally, the Marx movie (The Young Karl Marx) is actually really well done and worth watching. The Marx anime produced by the CPC isn't quite as good but it is a thorough account of his life story. It's worth watching if you hate reading pure biographies but still want to understand some of the context behind their political works.

 No.467355


 No.469984

Recommend me books that will help me get rich.

 No.470018

>>469984
Hmm. I'd recommend you do preliminary reading on how money is made. Assuming you're a leftist you have some idea, hopefully.

Basically:
Rent,
Profit,
Wages.
If you want to make money with rents, you'll need to buy something you can lend out. It doesn't have to be physical. There are many many markets. Some carry more risk than others.
Profit implies you're selling a commodity. You'll want to eventually exploit employees to gain profit. You'll have to put in a lot of work establishing procedures for your employees to follow. You'll also need to do reading on whatever your business niche is. Read books on how shit is made, market trends, etc.

If you want to make money via wages, including self-employment, your best bet is to save aggressively. There's also other stuff you can do, such as constantly apply to higher paying jobs, and negotiate better salaries. Usually, aggressive saving strategies have more impact than others. For this you can read lots of blogs etc that give you tips to save. Also, don't be scared to get into thrift shopping, garbage diving, especially if you're in the US.

 No.477797

>>285223
>communism
>theory
what theory though? communism isnt based in anything scientific. karl marx had no background in economics, which is the science of personal choice.

 No.478206

>>477797
>karl marx had no background in economics
Economics didn't even exist then you dumb retard. Political Economy was its precursor and was practiced by philosopher like Smith and Marx famously. Why are rightoids like you so braindead I wonder

 No.478756

>>478206
adam smith published "wealth of nations" in 1776 and founded the formal study of economics. you can read about it if you dont believe me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#Classical_political_economy
>The publication of Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations in 1776, has been described as "the effective birth of economics as a separate discipline."

 No.478846

>>478756
>classical political economy

Retard

 No.478923

>>478846
>>classical political economy
Which is called classical economics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#Classical_political_economy
>Classical political economy
>Main article: Classical economics

>Classical economics or classical political economy is a school of thought in economics that flourished, primarily in Britain, in the late 18th and early-to-mid 19th century. Its main thinkers are held to be Adam Smith, Jean-Baptiste Say, David Ricardo, Thomas Robert Malthus, and John Stuart Mill. These economists

>>These economists

>Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations in 1776 is usually considered to mark the beginning of classical economics.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith
>Adam Smith FRSA (baptized 16 June [O.S. 5 June] 1723[1] – 17 July 1790) was a Scottish[a] economist

let me also reiterate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#Classical_political_economy
>The publication of Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations in 1776, has been described as "the effective birth of economics as a separate discipline."

so yeah.

 No.479001

>>478923
>it was always called political economy
>no, it wasn't, and the way Wikipedia organizes his articles, is the proof of that
Lol

 No.479031

>>479001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#Classical_political_economy
>Classical economics or classical political economy is a school of thought in economics

its a sub category of economics meaning its economics. it says right there. it also says political economy is classical economics. >>478923

 No.479114

>>479031
Smith never labeled his works as "classical economics", he labeled them as political economy
>But in retrospective economists grouped him and other economists as classical economists
Not what we are discussing you subhuman transhumanist

 No.479131

>>479114
political economy is classical economics. its just a name, he is classical economics and economics as a distinct topic started with him. its not the name, its the content. so if you say "economics" didnt exist at the time of marx, you are patently incorrect. wealth of nations was released in 1776 and classical economists immediately built upon his work. go read about it.

allow me to repeat myself lol (fourth time)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#Classical_political_economy
>The publication of Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations in 1776, has been described as "the effective birth of economics as a separate discipline."

 No.479145

>>479131
>Political economy is classical economics
So in reteospective Marx was an economist just like Smith

You really didn't think this through

 No.479148

>>479145
calling yourself an economist doesnt make you one either. marx had no background or education in economics.

 No.479177

>>479148
Because economics as a discipline didn't existed back then, it was called political economy, and he was a political economist

 No.479187

>>479148
Also, friendly reminder Smith didn't have a formal education on "economics" either

Good job you utter imbecile, you have no argument and you must sneed

 No.479258

>>479177
except political economy is called classical economics and also this >>478923

>>479187
except adam smith founded modern economics and economic theory is based on his work, specifically his book "wealth of nations". its hard to be educated in something that didnt formally exist until you created it. >>478923

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations
> First published in 1776, the book offers one of the world's first collected descriptions of what builds nations' wealth, and is today a fundamental work in classical economics

>The latter, often abbreviated as The Wealth of Nations, is considered his magnum opus and the first modern work of economics


the point of the matter is that economics did exist in marx's time. by that time there was a formal study of economics, there was a field of economists and marx had no education in it at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand
>It was not until 1767 that the phrase "supply and demand" was first used by Scottish writer James Denham-Steuart in his Inquiry into the Principles of Political Economy.

>Adam Smith used the phrase after Steuart in his 1776 book The Wealth of Nations. In The Wealth of Nations, Smith asserted that the supply price was fixed but that its "merit" (value) would decrease as its "scarcity" increased, this idea by Smith was later named the law of demand. In 1803, Thomas Robert Malthus used the phrase "supply and demand" twenty times in the second edition of the Essay on Population.[17]


If you understand anything about economics you would know that everything is built on this principle. it existed well before marx's time which should give you an idea that economics was a thing. simply throwing terminology around without under understanding what anything means just proves you dont know what you are talking about.

 No.479263

>>479258
are you the kid that got banned yesterday for being too retarded

 No.479266

>>479263
>banning people for disagreeing with you
is that what this site does? lol

 No.479270

>>479266
yes. cry about it

 No.479341

>>479258
>Political economy is called classical economics
Therefore Marx, being a political economist, is a classical economists

>except adam smith founded modern economics and economic theory is based on his work, specifically his book "wealth of nations". its hard to be educated in something that didnt formally exist until you created it.

Lot's of words for "Smith also didn't have a background on economics"

Gg no re, retard

 No.479508

>>477797
>karl marx had no background in economics
He literally studied the entire history of economic thought from the ancient greeks to the 19th century, lol.

 No.479628

Anyone have any favourite books on CIA/MI6 intervention?

 No.481696

>>479508
he maybe claimed to. his education is in linguistics or something. the proof is in the pudding, the economic results of his system speak for themselves (they arent very good).

>>479341
he was never educated in that and has no background in it, let alone practicing it.

>comparing marx to adam smith

adam smiths work is actually scientific and he founded modern economics. like literally the science of economics is based on his work because its actually correct. when your work is the foundation of classical economics which is the foundation of modern economic theory practiced worldwide, thats kind of significant.

by the time of marx economics was an established field of study with actual theory, marx received no education in it and had no background in it.

 No.482320

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>>481696
>the science of economics
pic related, economists trying to figure out what the Economy wants.

 No.482327

>>481696
Are you lying to yourself for pleasure or profit?
>>482320
Lmao. I got that reference.

 No.483440

>>482320
>>482327
>doesnt know what economics is
just like marx!

 No.483443

>>483440
show me a single economics

 No.483774

>>481696
>he was never educated in that and has no background in it, let alone practicing it.
Uh lol. Marx earned a PhD in philosophy from one of the top universities of Germany and on top of that spent 10+ years at the British Museum library studying all the most important economists in preparation for Capital. He had some of the best education in the world when it came to economic thought.

>adam smiths work is actually scientific and he founded modern economics.

Adam Smith was a professor of moral philosophy. No such thing as economics was taught at the time. Political economy is what the field became known as, and no Smith didn't found it either, there were many influential economists before him like Petty, Cantillon, Quesnay, etc that he learned from. What is known as modern economics, aka neoclassical economics, is something that didn't appear until the late 19th century.
Also, do you realize much of Marx's work is based on Adam Smith, right? So why do you think Smith is scientific and right and Marx isn't?
>the science of economics is based on his work because its actually correct
It's not really based on his work. The core of modern economics is based on Walras' model of general equilibrium. Classical political economy was gradually abandoned by the mainstream in favor of the neoclassical economics of Walras, Jevons, Marshall, etc. This was partly in reaction to Marx's uncomfortable implications and the growing threat of the socialist movement. Marx was the cultimination and last of the classical economists in the vein of Smith, Ricardo, Mill, etc.

 No.483810

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>>483440
"So the problem here is something which looked to be a very solid edifice, and indeed a critical pillar, to market competition and free markets did break down and I think that, as I said, shocked me. I still do not fully understand why it happened. And obviously to the extent that I figure out whrre it happened and why, I will change my view."
https://youtu.be/R5lZPWNFizQ?t=265

"What I've learned at the Federal Reserve is a new language which is called "Fed-speak". You soon learn to mumble with great incoherence." – Alan Greenspan

Wow! And this is the best economist in the United States!

 No.484136

>>483810
“Karl Marx’s Das Kapital is actually a very thoughtful book.”
— High Shaman Greenspan

 No.484931

>>484136
>“Karl Marx’s Das Kapital is actually a very thoughtful book.”
meaning what exactly? a statement with no meaning. it doesnt mean its grounded in anything real.

 No.485494

>>484931
>society isn't real
easy there, Joker, you're gonna cut yourself on that edge

 No.488692

>>469984
>Recommend me books that will help me get rich.
The only book you will need I promise you.


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