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 No.30388[Last 50 Posts]

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
https://archive.fo/pRkxK
Subsequent archives:
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2265496.html
Related archives:
https://archive.fo/HbuXi
https://archive.fo/https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/36983.html
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 No.30644

Un A officially responds to the deletion of her Youtube channel "Echo of Truth"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YobD2OqpcT0
(this is the real channel btw, the one which reuploaded all the videos is an unofficial duplicate)
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 No.32609

>If the virus does not ease, North Korea’s self-imposed lockdown will be extended, which could destabilise food and exchange markets and trigger public panic

>In January, North Korea was forced to seal off its international borders, including one with China – its biggest trading partner and aid benefactor – after Covid-19 emerged there.


>As a result of the border closure, North Korea’s trade volume with China in the first 10 months of this year fell by 75 per cent. That led to a shortage of raw materials that plunged the North’s factory operation rate to its lowest level since Kim took power in late 2011, and a fourfold price increase of imported foods like sugar and seasonings, South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers recently.


>As long as the pandemic continues, the North will have to settle for modest economic goals while focusing on its antivirus efforts, the Seoul-based Institute for Far Eastern Studies said in a report.


>North Korea has steadfastly claimed to be coronavirus-free, though it said it has intensified what it called “maximum” anti-epidemic steps. Outside experts are highly sceptical of the North’s zero-virus case claim but agree the country has not experienced a widespread outbreak.


>“Why did they raise their anti-epidemic steps if they really haven’t had any patients? It doesn’t make any sense,” said Kim Sin-gon, a professor at Korea University College of Medicine in Seoul. “But they’ve imposed a higher level of antivirus steps than any other country, so it’s likely that there aren’t many patients there.”


https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3115541/kim-calls-meeting-north-korea-faces-worst-economic-crisis-1990s

Take the article with a grain of salt, it almost exclusively uses South Korean sources.
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 No.32613

>>32609
Western and ROK analysts have been predicting the imminent collapse of the DPRK for 30 years but it never seems to happen
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 No.32615

>>32613
True, but they did in fact cut off trade due to covid, so the situation is definitely different this time.
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 No.32844

>>32615
This and they were hit by a seemingly never ending barrage of cyclones this year too, its been hard on them.
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 No.33827

2021 New Year Celebrations in Pyongyang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyDp7WfHftc
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 No.35112

>>30644
It seems Youtube also removed that channel
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 No.35120

File: 1609600179486.mp4 (15.12 MB, 640x360, [REMAKE MV] 모란봉악단 - 달려가자 미….mp4)

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 No.35121

File: 1609600242191.mp4 (5.22 MB, 640x360, DPRK Dash to the Future (달….mp4)

>>35120
w/ English subtitles
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 No.35122

File: 1609600324370.mp4 (15.33 MB, 480x360, Moranbong Band - Dash to t….mp4)

>>35121
The performance.
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 No.35173

>>35122
The best kpop
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 No.36276

File: 1609847259108.pdf (71.54 KB, GoAllOutForVictoryInTheWar….pdf)

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 No.36606

Apparently Kim has stated that the last 5 years have “been the worst for Korea”. https://aje.io/zpq4u
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 No.36620

>>35120
The DPRK has some of the prettiest public spaces.
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 No.36669

>>36606
>Apparently Kim has stated that the last 5 years have “been the worst for Korea”
Worse than in the nineties, when they lost trade with the USSR ?
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 No.36838

>>36606
The plan was to develop ties with China, now the frontier is sealed. It's expected to hurt the economy.
We will see what the party plenary decides.
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 No.38841

>>36838
there's no party. the global bourgeoisie is in control of the country. or also you could be a total ass and believe the covid shit
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 No.39052

>>38841
>the global bourgeoisie is in control of the country
can we start just banning people posting such moronic statements
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 No.39059

>>38713
Moranbong Band goes hard
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 No.39066

Dprk should liberalize their economy. protectionism is for fags and they need capitalism for 100 or so years to develop productive forces
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 No.39383

>>36606
Here is the full speech:
>In this period the unprecedented, worst-ever trials put great obstacles on the road of advance of our revolution, but our Party achieved great successes through tenacious and accurate practical activities aimed at implementing its fighting programmes.
>During the period under review our internal force further expanded and strengthened, and the external prestige of the country was raised remarkably. This is a clear signal that a period of a new upsurge, a period of gigantic transformation, has arrived for socialist construction.
http://www.rodong.rep.kp/en/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2021-01-06-0007
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 No.39638

>>39052
can we start just banning people posting such moronic statements like covid is real?
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 No.39936

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-9125783/S-Korea-indicts-N-Korean-wants-return-charges-breaking-security-law.html
<S.Korea indicts N.Korean who wants to return on charges of breaking security law

Also best Korea's Congress is in session at the moment hammering out a 5 year plan I think
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 No.41086

File: 1610255549548.mp4 (19.66 MB, 638x360, DPR Korea Annual Review 20….mp4)

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 No.41089

File: 1610256144282.mp4 (7.57 MB, 638x360, [ENG]Bright Smile of Marsh….mp4)

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 No.41915

File: 1610379085832.jpg (192.12 KB, 2340x1080, IMG_20210111_162827.jpg)

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 No.41938

>>41915
>cia.gov
They have all sorts of estimates which make no sense
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 No.42167

>>41086
Why do people support north Korea red monarchy is not cool
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 No.42744

>>42167
You aren't cool.
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 No.42954

File: 1610429235945-0.jpg (140.92 KB, 904x850, choson5.jpg)

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Chosonminhang (Air Koyro) Timetable from 1990.
Might be of historical interest.
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 No.42955

File: 1610429260525-0.jpg (134.38 KB, 897x850, choson9.jpg)

File: 1610429260525-1.jpg (114.83 KB, 897x850, choso10.jpg)

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File: 1610429260525-3.jpg (145.18 KB, 903x850, choso12.jpg)

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 No.43192

>>42167
>people freakout that the DPRK is a monarchy
>it isn't
>all the normies love Canada even though it's literally a monarchy
>no one gives a shit
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 No.43279

>>42167
>UK literally have "lords" as a parlimentary chamber
>they have a fucking queen owning tons of lands and some political power
>the center of their capital is a semi independantly ruled kingdom of rich fucks
>muh dprk monarchy without a single fact to back it up
fuck off
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 No.43392

File: 1610476065751.png (570.63 KB, 929x659, dprk socdem.png)

>>43192
The Queen doesn't even live in the country. Canada is basically a fictional monarchy.

>>43279
>without a single fact to back it up
it is an implausible coincidence that all 3 of their rulers have been from the kim family.
"hereditary dictatorship" is far closer to "monarchy" than current physical distancing rules allow for.

But then, the DPRK is far worse than a feudal monarchy - by Allah, it is…
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 No.43401

File: 1610476823333.jpg (637.81 KB, 850x1164, caligula.jpg)

People defending Korea as "democratic" is like Romans claiming the republic was still intact during the time of Caligula. Well no, actually it's worse, because Rome never had any pretenses about being a naked oligarchy, unlike propaganda around modern "democratic republics" making the claim that there's anything democratic about elections.
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 No.43405

File: 1610477334313.jpg (181.78 KB, 1058x2015, hph98vbnlua61.jpg)

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 No.43408

>>43405
What is this?
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 No.43409

>>42167
Read the archives
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 No.44069

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 No.44139

>>43401
I think you mean Augustus.
>>43192
>>43279
>>43392
I think what anon wants to say is that clearly DPRK isn't a kingdom. It is a modern-day government.
>that there's anything democratic about elections.
Having leadership doesn't cancel out democracy, imo.
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 No.44170

>>44139
Throughout Augustus's rule he may every pretense possible to assure the traditional Republican institutions still carried weight, he was merely the "first" among peers in various offices which he always was re-elected to. The assassination of Caligula was an opportunity to restore Republican power but the conspirators fucked up by failing to kill his uncle Claudius.
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 No.44174

>>44139
>Having leadership doesn't cancel out democracy, imo.
Elections are oligarchy.
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 No.44201

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>>44174
>>44170
Speak for yourself.
>Elections are oligarchy.
>>42167
It's so fun watching DPRK general go back and forth about monarchy like it's a bad thing.
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 No.44294

DPRK Holds 8th Congress: What is different about the new five-year plan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-09DTQ6_zdc

30 minute special from Chinese CGTN.
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 No.45587

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 No.45668

Thoughts on this video about Pyongyang city planning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S8fXjaS_4I

There is some libshit in here but — in my humble opinion — this video exemplifies the beauty and efficiency of socialist-style city planning.
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 No.45716

>>45668
Thinking that whoever runs the leftypol youtube should make a reply debunking the historical revisionism.
I remember that this is something Unroo used to make, but i have not watched his videos in years, so no idea if he would be up to it nowadays.
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 No.46167

File: 1610725793590.mp4 (10.84 MB, 854x478, Internationale closes 8th ….mp4)

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 No.46341

Is it true Kim Jong Un became General Secretary of the WPK? It's not a good look, he's been getting more and more centralised political power every year, the General Secretary was supposed to have been abolished when Kim Jong Il died.
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 No.46377

>>46341
It seems as if renaming the party leader position has become a tradition at every WPK party congress. But this time it is different because Kim Jong Il was supposed to be the "Eternal General Secretary".
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 No.46379

OMG, DPRK IS LITERALLY THE REASON NUMBER ONE WHY I'M NOT FREE RIGHT NOW. PLEASE ENSURE THE REMOVAL OF DPRK SO I CAN BECOME FREE AGAIN!!!
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 No.49603

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File: 1610936114406-1.png (231.22 KB, 668x435, Screenshot_20210118_031309.png)

<I drew Choe Son Hui, a strong woman that I admire.
<She‘s the First Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs of DPR Korea and a seasoned diplomat who makes a strong stance and speaks powerfully
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 No.50697

File: 1610993853758-0.mp4 (17.86 MB, 640x360, North Korean Moranbong Ban….mp4)

File: 1610993853758-1.png (27.75 KB, 682x415, Great family Gryffith Will….png)

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 No.50735

File: 1610995977989.mp4 (11.91 MB, 540x360, [DPRK Song & English Subti….mp4)

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 No.51334

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 No.53178

>>30388
This should be added to the Subsequent archives:
https://archive.fo/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/9051.html
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 No.53678

What are the living standards in North Korea like? Apparently its citizens are paid about 22 times less than South Koreans are. Also, any good resources on real South Korean standards of living (in contrast to bourgeois statistics about high GDP per capita)?
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 No.53968

>>53678
It depends on where in the country you live.

Pyongyang's living conditions are on par with most 1st world major cities, despite western CIA propaganda and media saying the good conditions there are "staged" and all the citizens are just acting like everything is great. However, there are parts of the country that are relatively impoverished, such as the people living in the mountains in the northwest corner of the country.

South Korea, on the other hand, appears to do well in terms of GDP and economic growth, but the standard work week is at least 56 hours, it has the largest suicide rate by far of any developed country, and the entire country's economy depends on 6-8 conglomerates. It it doing better economically than North Korea though, hence why most defectors who flee to the South are people who are tricked by South Korean brokers to going to the South temporarily for better wages, then are stuck in the South since anyone who attemps to defect to the North gets shot on site.

Also, you can't really measure North Korea by GDP standards, since DPRK provides far more to their citizens than any other country. (Free housing, free utilities, free health care, etc…)
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 No.53990

#archive of several thousand karaoke videos from people's korea:
https://archive.org/details/tianchi-v700-ktv?&sort=-week&page=2
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 No.55144

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2020/12/03/old-obama-hands-on-korea-policy-could-pose-new-problems-for-peace/
<Old Obama hands on Korea policy could pose new problems for peace

Antony Blinken and Avril Haines (Biden's Secretary of State and Director of National Intelligence) look like they want to push to a way more hostile stance against North Korea compared to Trump's administration (plus let's not forget Biden comparing Kim to Hitler during the presidential debates). Do you think anything major will happen regarding the DPRK during Biden's administration?
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 No.55230

>>53990
That's awesome. If only I knew Korean.
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 No.55330

>>55144
mostly depends on how much of a faggot is SK president
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 No.57336

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korea-defector-diplomat-kim/2021/01/25/cd867488-5eb8-11eb-a177-7765f29a9524_story.html
North Korea’s acting ambassador to Kuwait defects to the South
>His defection, which was first reported by South Korea’s Maeil Business Newspaper, has raised fresh questions about the loyalty of North Korea’s privileged elite, especially those who have exposure to the outside world.
>“I decided to defect in order to let my children have a better future,” Ryu was quoted as saying in the report Monday.

Is it really that bad in North Korea? Or are these officials being bribed into defecting?
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 No.57342

>>57336
These higher level defectors like Thae Yong Ho have lucrative careers in spreading anti-DPRK propaganda funded by NIS and NED. They are opportunists who realize that they can get rich by switching sides.
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 No.57996

>>57336

The vast majority of "defectors" are really economic migrants who flee south in search of better wages. Many of them later regret the decision and are unable to return since crossing into North Korea from the South is illegal and potentially deadly.
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 No.58041

>>57342
Any resources on this?
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 No.58614

Workers' Party of Korea set forth 5-Year Plan for Housing Construction
https://youtu.be/S7D4V0fH-QA
Housing Construction to Be Conducted Extensively
The Eighth Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea set forth the five-year strategy for national economic development between 2021 and 2025.
During the period, housing construction will be conducted extensively to provide the people with a more civilized life.
It is a popular policy of our Party and state to build houses at the state expense.
In the 2010s, a lot of houses were built amid the concern of the respected Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un, General Secretary of the WPK.
Changjon Street was inaugurated in Juche 101(2012), Unha Scientists Street in Juche 102(2013), Wisong Scientists Residential District in Juche 103(2014), Mirae Scientists Street in Juche 104(2015) and Ryomyong Street in Juche 106(2017). After all, one street was built almost every year.
And new houses were built in different parts of the country including the farm city in the Jangchon area of Pyongyang City, Samjiyon City, a modern mountain city, in Ryanggang Province, the village at the Jungphyong Vegetable Greenhouse Farm in North Hamgyong Province, the rural village in the area of the Yangdok Hot Spring Resort in South Phyongan Province and the Tanphung fishing village on the shore of the East Sea of Korea.
Last year when everything was difficult, all people turned out as one to the struggle for recovery from natural disasters and built new houses for over 20,000 families in different parts of the country.
In the period of the five-year strategy for national economic development between 2021 and 2025, efforts will be concentrated on the construction of 50,000 houses in Pyongyang City, 10,000 houses every year, starting from this year.
In the Komdok area of South Hamgyong Province 25,000 houses will be built during five years. Five years later, the Komdok area will be changed into the world's only mining town and the gorge town unprecedented in history.
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 No.58671

>>57342
Like Yuri Bezmenov?

>>58614
>the world's only mining town and the gorge town unprecedented in history.
Weird translation, anyone got a better nuanced one?
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 No.58687

>>58614
>Last year when everything was difficult, all people turned out as one to the struggle for recovery from natural disasters and built new houses for over 20,000 families in different parts of the country.
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 No.61733

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 No.62455

>>46167
Beautiful version.
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 No.63965

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 No.69746

File: 1612537496013.jpg (77.36 KB, 1024x768, IMG_20210101_011042.jpg)

https://youtu.be/6S8fXjaS_4I

>North Korea is the country with the worst possible human rights situation in the world, source: Human Rights Watch

>Soviet architecture is BLEAK and DEPRESSING
>Soviet Union OCCUPIED the northern half but Koreans wanted FREEDOM
>monuments are creepy and designed to indoctrinate you! Unlike us Americans who carved the faces of our leaders into a mountain
>a city gets livelier and more colorful because of muh small businesses
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 No.69797

>>69746
>>North Korea is the country with the worst possible human rights situation in the world, source: Human Rights Watch
>Soviet architecture is BLEAK and DEPRESSING
>Soviet Union OCCUPIED the northern half but Koreans wanted FREEDOM
but that's correct
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 No.69808

>>69797
Define freedom
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 No.69824

>>69797
That the USSR occupied Korea is false. When the Red Army arrived, they didn't lay a finger on the people's committees that have organically formed. The People's Republic of Korea was founded:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea
It was the US that occupied the southern half, because there were communists in the provisional government. They then appointed Syngman Rhee as the president of "South Korea" which de facto caused the division of Korea. The founding of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in the north was a reaction to that. The video makes it look like the 38 parallel fell from the sky, and then baselessly claims that the USSR occupied the North while the Koreans wanted them out. This has no basis in reality and I'm not surprised that Americans seem to learn a propagandistic version of Korea conflict in school.
>North Korea is the country with the worst possible human rights situation in the world
It's beyond me how one could claim that when countries like Saudi-Arabia exist where women only recently were allowed to drive or Israel that creates apartheid structures while occupying millions of people and bombing hospitals.
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 No.69834

>>69824
What about the labor camps where 3 generations of people are sent for one person's crimes?
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 No.69839

>>69834
The idea that "generational punishment" exists in the DPRK is an unsubstantiated myth.
https://rhizzone.net/articles/songbullshit/
"Songbun" refers to a speech Kim il-Sung gave in the 50s about how they need to keep an eye on families who supported the Japanese and the Americans. That's all. Then some think tanks cooked this up as some sort of generational punishment systems, but I don't know if the average North Korean even knows the term.
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 No.70562

>>69834
stop spouting retarded propaganda moron
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 No.70566

>>70562
Debunk it instead of getting pissy.
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 No.71754

>>70566
Prove it first.
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 No.72384

Here's some neat footage of Pyongyang at night. Lots of lights everywhere. Checkmate, CIA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Imc-Zmysc
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 No.72576

>>72384
the clearly turned on the lights for that one particular night so they could film that video
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 No.72581

>>70566
Then why do you ignore this post >>69839
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 No.77111

Kim is getting pissed at government officials for not being ambitious of innovative enough. I love how all this negative shit is being reported by the DPRK itself and yet westerners still believe their entire population is brainwashed. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-politics-idUSKBN2AB2SV
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 No.77244

>>39066
>>39638
>>42167
Why does leftypol attract such retards?
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 No.77246

>>70566
The burden of proof is on you, you know that?
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 No.77251

>>77244
I think poltards finally found out about this place there have been some b8 threads
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 No.77262

>>39066
mcdonalds and trump tower soon
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 No.77350

>>77262
>still repeating the speculations of a retarded southern official who thinks "economic development" is the same thing as "mcdonalds and trump tower"
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 No.77403

File: 1613106060858.mp4 (9.86 MB, 640x360, We'll Firmly Carry On the ….mp4)

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 No.77405

File: 1613106211799.mp4 (14.37 MB, 638x360, DPRKNorth Korea The Song W….mp4)

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 No.77406

File: 1613106523582-0.mp4 (16.88 MB, 638x360, [ENG]Moranbong Band - Gold….mp4)

File: 1613106523582-1.jpg (78.31 KB, 1292x129, Themistian concept loving ….jpg)

"The love shown by Kim II Sung all his life
Kim Jong Il showed it to the youth."
"We cannot forget his love even in dream"
"We are the youth following the sun"
"The youth know nobody but Marshal Kim Jong Un"
"As a flower cushion of filial duty
"As a golden cushion of best wishes
"We will hold him in high esteem forever"
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 No.77407

File: 1613107000954.mp4 (17.51 MB, 638x360, [ENG]Moranbong Band - Worl….mp4)

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 No.77415

File: 1613108787057-0.mp4 (22.45 MB, 640x360, Oh, Benevolent Father 아 자애….mp4)

File: 1613108787057-1.mp4 (18.56 MB, 638x360, DPRK Music Our Father (wit….mp4)

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 No.77422

File: 1613109808382-0.mp4 (5.13 MB, 640x360, DPR Korea - Our Home.mp4)

File: 1613109808382-1.png (51.31 KB, 1170x251, Aristotle royal rule is fa….png)

File: 1613109808382-2.png (11.88 KB, 587x114, Aristotle father monarchy ….png)

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File: 1613109808382-4.png (12.47 KB, 553x133, aristotle-royalism03.png)

"Our father is Marshal Kim Jong Un, Our Home is the Party's embrace"
"With the Respected Marshal who loves people most and regards his trouble for the people as his joy as our father in the harmonious great family we are assisting each other in the warm cherished house, our socialist homeland"
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 No.77436

File: 1613111360799-0.mp4 (15.9 MB, 640x360, He's Our Comrade Kim Jong ….mp4)

File: 1613111360799-1.png (21.31 KB, 981x122, Cyropedia Wisdom 01.png)

File: 1613111360800-2.png (12.96 KB, 965x96, Cyropedia Wisdom 02.png)

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File: 1613111360800-4.png (19.67 KB, 962x113, Cyropedia Wisdom 04.png)

"He is the teacher giving out wisdom."
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 No.77440

File: 1613111948742-0.jpg (252.99 KB, 1354x712, classroom.jpg)

File: 1613111948742-1.jpg (105.61 KB, 797x435, Teacher.jpg)

File: 1613111948742-2.jpg (179.42 KB, 640x1136, Enthroned Ramses II.jpg)

"He is the teacher giving out wisdom."
These congress sessions and party meetings remind me of a classroom. The Leader takes position like a teacher with his assistants before a classroom–the Leader is regarded as a source of wisdom.
A monarch might sit enthroned in a court room, and be attended by courtiers and regarded with majesty, in no way different than how a teacher is presented before a classroom: the monarch sits enthroned to be revered as a source of wisdom–in religion, particularly Christianity, it is the same with Jesus being a teacher. In royal monarchy, the monarch sits enthroned for the same basis as a teacher.
Men are eager to obey a man they believe has wisdom, like Cyropedia regards with men obeying a doctor who has medicine for their wounds.
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 No.77455

File: 1613114900489-0.png (21.72 KB, 587x218, Aristotle-royalism01.png)

File: 1613114900489-1.jpg (35.65 KB, 451x365, Kim 01.jpg)

File: 1613114900489-2.jpg (64.45 KB, 697x378, kim 02.jpg)

File: 1613114900489-3.jpg (72.91 KB, 559x370, Kim 03.jpg)

"When the government is personal, the ruler is a king."
And this is why people might be defensive about the term "Cult of Personality", because that term is hinting towards Monarchy.
A monarch is a personal ruler, like a shepherd is a personal ruler. A shepherd has his whole flock of sheep follow his person. A people want a person to embody the whole body-politic.
Man's image is made in God's image, and a monarch resembles the best craft of divinity as made by the best artist–the personified leader has an interpersonal relationship with the People, maybe in a Leviathan-like sense, or with gods as deities are personified themselves (the especial relationship being deities and kings are personal rulers in the same way).
The phrase "Khuum for every body" in the Egyptian loyalist text appeals to this emotional bond towards a leader–Khuum is an Egyptian god of the Nile river. It is akin to the word "Lord" as described in Etymology as "Bread-giver". Lord coming from Loaf–the ancient understanding and term was "Lord of all Goods"–all property and public wealth, all sources and goods, flow back to the Leader as the ultimate provider.
Why provider? A shepherd must feed his flock, no doubt, and a father must provide for his children–there has to be a relationship of people who depend on their father/shepherd, and the person in return becomes their Lord.

From the personal image in monarchy is divinity and the foundation of monarchical government. It isn't about any crowns or royal regalia, but the person in question (not the crown).
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 No.77460

>>77455
any state where an individual leader is idealised is in some way despotic IMO
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 No.77479

File: 1613116663701-0.jpg (251.18 KB, 1536x1167, 9Hkvt8Rx.jpg large.jpg)

File: 1613116663701-1.mp4 (26.49 MB, 720x404, Glory to General Kim Jong ….mp4)

>>77460
Good.
>>77403
>>77405
>>77406
>>77407
>>77415
>>77422
>>77436
>>77440
>>77455
My larper monarchist interpretation of DPRK videos.
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 No.77512

>>77479
post monarchist theory
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 No.77519

File: 1613124123949-0.png (2.31 MB, 2800x2914, grace no bg.png)

File: 1613124123949-1.jpg (225.02 KB, 1536x1022, Qu1KdDzZ.jpg large.jpg)

>>77512
Isn't this already good enough?
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 No.77526

File: 1613125894073.epub (144.78 KB, Narnia 1 Lion Witch And W….epub)

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 No.81091

File: 1613378747715.mp4 (1.96 MB, 600x480, DPRK Tour Guide Explains W….mp4)

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 No.81233

Ri Sol Ju is still MIA for 12 months and didn't attend the new lunar year celebration with Kim recently.

Also Kim is cracking down on illicit private markets in the DPRK and demoting government officials left and right over missed dead lines and shortcomings with planning.
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 No.82651

Here's the DPRK Lunar New Year's Day Concert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMv9QWqqYOs
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 No.82696

File: 1613471295499.jpeg (383.54 KB, 1400x786, un a.jpeg)

>>30644
Here is a MEGA folder with the videos from the deleted "Echo of Truth" Youtube channel:
https://mega.nz/folder/njhCVIiJ#AY0f0d55z2_Ba2lyvSGc2g
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 No.82698

>>82696
Thanks, Comrade!
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 No.82712

>>82696
That's strange, my tab keeps crashing whenever it reaches 100%. Does my browser or government know that I'm trying to download something I shouldn't be?
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 No.82718

>>82712
That problem sometimes occurs on that site when you try to download more than a few GB at once because it can't be properly decrypted (unless you are using their offical desktop/mobile program). Try downloading like 10 videos at a time and see if it works.
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 No.83256

>>77422
>>77436
>>77440
I wonder if these monarchistic tendencies are vestigial remnants of the pre-industrial society korea was before it's revolution. It might just be the sharpest hairpin turn from agricultural feudalism into industrialized socialism, in tandem with massively enforced isolation by the capitalist countries. The acceleration to socialism was so intense it wouldn't surprise me if some cultural aspects didn't manage to get shed.
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 No.83284

Is Grace poster trying to claim the DPRK is a monarchy again? This is some major cope dude.
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 No.83307

The purging of DPRK platforms off social media is so ridiculous to me. What is the government thinking, that those are seditious works? They don't even promote revolution, they just want to have friendly relations with other countries and show some cultural hot spots on Pyongyang. The fact that you are not even allowed to watch that should be a huge red flag in terms of credibility of what we are being told is the reality in North Korea.
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 No.83430

>>83307
anti NK propaganda is so ridiculously off the chart they cant allow anything to leave the country and get popular on social media or people might realise they're actually offering a viable model and are being unjustly sanctioned (and that "sanctions" are inhumans measure taken by US imperialists)
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 No.83680

Whatever one might think of Juche characteristics communism the released photos of Supreme Leader the have weird charm. https://getchan.net/test/res/105.html
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 No.83946

File: 1613585371319.png (458.77 KB, 1022x814, Alunya x Grace kiss hand.png)

>>83284
>Is Grace poster trying to claim the DPRK is a monarchy again? This is some major cope dude.
I think DPRK is kinda sus.
Like Aristotle says, "For the association of a father with his sons bears the form of monarchy, since the father cares for his children… it is the ideal of monarchy to be paternal rule."
And this kind of rhetoric is said to be weak in the West–if it is true that Confucianism w/ its emphasis on filial piety is like the fatherly rhetoric on steroids.
The power of life and death is a chief absolutist focus, and the ultimate mark of sovereignty. "Potestatem vita & necis" (power of life and death). This was ascribed to fathers under the Twelve Tables. It is the monarchist mentality to take that principle and apply it to someone as the public father of the whole people.
I'm not cherrypicking these examples & videos. These are videos from DPRK itself. They also seem to have adopted this view of the Leader as a public father.
Does DPRK endow the Leader with all the marks of sovereignty an absolutist would ascribe to sovereign monarchy? I suppose not–since the laws & decision-making are invested in the parliament and cabinet. However, seeing as how the body of people who make up those institutions are members of the WPK, and Kim Jong Un is the Leader of the WPK–I wouldn't discount Kim Jong Un from this equation.
There's that quote ascribed to Mao, that political power grows out the barrel of a gun–that is akin to the absolutist conviction on the power of life and death. If Kim Jong Un is also in charge of the military, that could also be the case for that mark of sovereignty–the power of life and death.
Much older is that view than the Twelve Tables–it was also a theme for Osiris who presides as judge in the weighing of the heart ceremony.

>>83256
I don't view monarchist tendencies as remnants of feudalism / pre-industrial society. I might agree with the latter half, that it is in tandem with massively enforced isolation & hardship that leadership behind one person is necessary. It is the same mentality that in militarized states. Monarchy is attractive because authority of command is endangered when it is divided–best to have one commander… Lastly, if DPRK is in love w/ the popular image of Kim II Sung as the Great Founder & preserve that image through Kim Jong Un, then I doubt that could easily be shed off.
There are benefits in having a monarchist approach–if you want single-minded unity & the whole people to walk as one man with one mind, you should have one person leading them. A multitude of people cannot be of one mind–they could unanimously react, but they should have someone to guide them.
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 No.85429

File: 1613691275481.mp4 (14.6 MB, 480x360, dear name of kim jong il.mp4)

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 No.85435

File: 1613691695791.mp4 (13.6 MB, 720x404, Dear Name of Kim Jong Il.mp4)

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 No.85491

File: 1613696172296.mp4 (26.63 MB, 640x360, The Dear Name Kim Jong Il ….mp4)

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 No.86522

>Ri Sol Ju MIA for over a year
>journos finally start raising the matter of her absence, speculating that she got executed
>she reappears one day later
Kino.
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 No.87774

Anyone know any good books/pdfs to learn about the KPA during the Korean War? I can only find info about China's PVA but nothing about the KPA
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 No.87890

File: 1613836656061.mp4 (17.06 MB, 480x360, Radio Voice of Korea Repor….mp4)

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 No.87893

File: 1613836912952-0.mp4 (13.82 MB, 480x360, Kim Jong Il - Life of Love….mp4)

File: 1613836912952-1.mp4 (15.11 MB, 640x360, Our Father Kim Jong Il 우리 ….mp4)

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 No.87895

File: 1613837402835.pdf (2.05 MB, 203x300, The Korean War.pdf)

>>86522
nah man they cloned her or something
>>87774
Pdf related might be good for you. Never gave it a good read but some other anon swore by it a while ago.
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 No.89876

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJtYBm-Cn4
>Kim Jong Un and Ri Sol Ju Enjoys Performance for Day of Shining Star
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 No.89878

What's the material explanation for the cult of personality and worship of dead presidents in the DPRK?
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 No.90012

File: 1614000051388.jpg (35.83 KB, 720x699, kim-dvd.jpg)

>>89878
I think its because they're heroes of the revolution that kicked the japanese imperialists out and freed Korea.

They're like Che, Fidel or Chavez; but I think that juche puts some emphasis on the leader as the figure that moves the nation forward, hence the stronger CoP
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 No.90017

>>89878
1)Korean culture
2)>>90012
although kim il sung notoriusly overstated his millitary achievments and erased the ones of others
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 No.90077

File: 1614004576382-0.mp4 (24.01 MB, 480x360, Kim Jong Il's leadership d….mp4)

File: 1614004576382-1.mp4 (31.66 MB, 478x360, Kim Jong Il, Remodeling Ko….mp4)

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 No.90098

File: 1614006439869-0.mp4 (19.26 MB, 640x360, People Joy - Moranbong Ban….mp4)

File: 1614006439869-1.mp4 (19 MB, 720x540, We cannot live without him….mp4)

File: 1614006439869-2.mp4 (15.77 MB, 490x360, Kim_Jong_Uns_Photo_Shoot_w….mp4)

Just calling out his name, makes waves of joy,
Rise up inside our chests
Because of this uniquely great man who guides us through our lives
The whole people is overwhelmed with pride
Inside his bosom of affection and determination, we all stand united
The power of our unity is infinite
The bright shining light of the Sun leads us into our future
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 No.90108

>>90098
That is the literal most cringe thing I ever read, anon.
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 No.90113

>>90108
ur cringe gay homo
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 No.90130

File: 1614008372689-0.jpg (4.06 MB, 6486x4009, Grace Egypt 01.jpg)

File: 1614008372689-1.mp4 (16.06 MB, 640x360, Statue of Khafre Rebirth o….mp4)

File: 1614008372689-2.png (11.15 KB, 451x142, term lord as bread-keeper.png)

File: 1614008372689-3.png (124.44 KB, 582x499, King James I lord of goods.png)

>>90108
Compare it to the Egyptian loyalist text.
"Just calling out his name, makes waves of joy, rise up inside our chests"
^Reminds me of the phrase "Khuum for every body" (not to be confused with coom) in this.
Being Lord, aka bread-giver, and provider for the whole people is very substantial… it isn't only that they seek goods, but also bodily health, from the sovereign of the body-politic.
Keep in mind, that Kings would heal their subjects who were infected with the royal touch. And that being Lord, also calls for a long life. "Long live the King".
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 No.90194

File: 1614010924966-0.mp4 (23.49 MB, 640x360, DPR Korea - Memorial Servi….mp4)

File: 1614010924966-1.mp4 (5.39 MB, 640x360, DPR Korea Poet speech.mp4)

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 No.91135

File: 1614094196333.png (401.82 KB, 1578x1204, tug of war.png)

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 No.91274

File: 1614106111334-0.mp4 (22.68 MB, 640x360, DPR Korea - The People Are….mp4)

File: 1614106111334-1.jpg (49.03 KB, 405x470, 0202020202.jpg)

File: 1614106111334-2.png (49.61 KB, 839x322, The King IS the People.png)

This might be a gotcha moment.
What better expression of popular sovereignty could be said other than the People are God?
All that is left is to say, "I am the People!" I'd like to think
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 No.91292

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 No.91781

File: 1614116559503.mp4 (73.68 MB, 640x360, Kim Jong Un unfolds Heyday….mp4)

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 No.91785

File: 1614116776716.mp4 (20.23 MB, 1280x706, 7i32OKbAZJLVC-e0.mp4)

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 No.92565

Anyone read Wilfred Burchett's This Monstrous War? Enjoying it so far. Maybe it's just residual brain poison, but the Americans and their Southern puppets seem just cartoonishly inept, evil, and petty, while the Northern and Chinese troops are superheroic to a similar degree. My brain keeps telling me that there must be at least some exaggeration - things like civilians spontaneously switching to handsome white trad outfits the moment the Japanese get owned, maybe.
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 No.92667

>>92661
>Researchers conducted interviews with 50 North Korean defectors, all but one of whom said they had been subjected to conditions that met the international legal definition of “forced labor,” according to the index.
I like how they don't disclose what concrete questions they asked and what they answered. They give a definition of slavery where they say that it's slavery when the state makes you work. So it's likely that they asked them "do you work for the government" "did you have civil duties" or whatever and since all that exists including a general conscription where the army is used to help with the harvest and construct buildings, they subsumed this "under slavery".
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 No.92766

>>92667
It's not forced labor when the workers are under duress and have no choice but to work for large corporations that don't pay them livable wages in order to eat… right?
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 No.92787

Does anyone have any recommendations for unbiased reading on the DPRK?
>>92565
I'll be sure to check this out
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 No.93549

File: 1614223438240.pdf (2.3 MB, 194x300, KoreanWar.pdf)

>>92787
Here's a PDF copy
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 No.93566

File: 1614224383564.pdf (136.51 KB, 67x118, 369-Article Text-1142-1-10….pdf)

>>93549
>>92787
>>92565
Found this article that seems to corroborate a lot of what I've read from Burchett. Not sure what sort of angle the author and the Journal of Conflict Studies is slanted towards, though. Lots more sources to dig into.
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 No.93922

>>93549
>>93566
Thanks a whole lot!
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 No.98255

File: 1614507864276.png (73.38 KB, 1019x398, dprk.png)

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 No.98259

Is Ismail's take on the DPRK any way accurate?
http://eregime.org/index.php?showtopic=3021
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 No.98272

This almost seems like the opening song for some anime.
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/src/1609600179486.mp4
Was this officially posted by the DPRK media?

Actually, is there animation that's produced by the DPRK? Probably long time ago there was something of that sort posted to the thread.
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 No.98329

>>98259
That's not Ismail's take, it is what a guy he interviewed said.
And yes, the DPRK does accept support from where ever they can because of the current geopolitical situation. Sometimes this also includes reactionaries who fall for liberal horseshoe theory nonsense and think it is a good thing.
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 No.98354

>>98272
Yep, /co/ have discussed >>98342 a bit and there is a significant amount of porn of Lt. Vixen.
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 No.98954

>>98272
What a pretty city
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 No.98985

File: 1614540045166.jpeg (9.11 KB, 225x225, download (2).jpeg)

What's the purpose of this party? What do they actually do?
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 No.99027

>>98985
To make it look like they have a socdem party? What else would they do? It's just propaganda.
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 No.103209

File: 1614799456042-0.mp4 (24.83 MB, 640x360, DPR Korea That Heart is Pa….mp4)

File: 1614799456042-1.mp4 (14.07 MB, 640x360, DPRK Song Land and Farmers.mp4)

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 No.103212

File: 1614799580792-0.mp4 (2.95 MB, 640x360, Women are Flowers녀성은 꽃이라네 ….mp4)

File: 1614799580792-1.mp4 (4 MB, 640x360, North Korean Wedding Song-….mp4)

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 No.103228

File: 1614800160028-0.mp4 (7.01 MB, 480x360, 영웅의 안해될줄 꿈에도 몰랐어요 I never ….mp4)

File: 1614800160028-1.jpg (95.03 KB, 1023x726, kim jong il photo.jpg)

File: 1614800160028-2.jpg (89.82 KB, 1022x726, kim jong il photo 2.jpg)


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