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/Internet Trash General/ - endless eceleberry
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 No.555337

>>555253
anti-landbackers insist on bringing up strawman arguments after being proven wrong to drive idpol splitting

 No.555338

>>555304
t. Sakaist fascist

 No.555347

>>554423
>Linus also pointed out that Hasan made LTT pay for the PC components instead of doing it himself, despite having more money than them.
oh dude I bet Linus is super pissed. I can't beleve hassan would scam him like this

 No.555348

>>555188
the only way out is through

 No.555351

>>555132
Can you just say "Marx was wrong" instead of pretending to be a communist.

 No.555357


>>554850
>Bernie

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/us/politics/as-mayor-bernie-sanders-was-more-pragmatic-than-socialist.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-loves-this-dollar1-trillion-war-machine


>“There were protesters who were unhappy that General Electric was manufacturing Gatling guns at the plant, and so they would lock themselves to the gates and engage in civil disobedience. And so the mayor, Bernie, finally got cops to go in and arrest the protesters, the GE plant was one of the largest providers of jobs in the city. So it was economically important that the plant stay open and people who worked there went to work.”


>When it comes time to make speeches, Sanders has slammed defense corporations for political gain.


>“We know that there is massive fraud going on in the defense industry. Virtually every major defense contractor has either been convicted of fraud or reached a settlement with the government,” Sanders said in Iowa City last year at a town hall. “We need a strong military, it is a dangerous world. But I think we can make judicious cuts.”


>But when those defense corporations come to his own backyard, he quietly welcomes them in.

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>>555351
Marx and the bulk of those who followed in his footsteps were far closer to me on this issue.

 No.555393

>>555337
who brought idpol to the table if not sakaists. Sakaism was born in the heart of darkness, the root of the blackest reaction, the most brainwashed country in the history of mankind.
No matter how you twist it, Lakota Zionism is a trash take.

 No.555401

>>555281
>I think any such argument would inevitably have to fall back on gross generalizations and assumptions about people's behaviour on the basis of skin colour

Not skin colour, but social conditioning through a white supremacist society that has instilled in settlers racist and supremacist sentiments. Settlers were sent to settle on native land explicitly to destroy native ability to organize as communities, and that is not a reality wr can just ignore. If on that background natives decide that settlers still pose the thread and function they were meant to pose and on that basis chose to rehome them, frankly I am confuse as to what is supposed to be the harm.

>Again, assuming that the fallout from such an act doesn't cause increased instability and animosity on its own (such as invite retaliatory "rehomings" from other communties).


We can't let white supremacist violence scare us. If that is what settlers chose to do, then the path is protracted people's war.

>But it's already been pointed out that simply allowing people to live in their own communities doesn't *really* eliminate white supremacy.


Yes. By me. I pointed it out. Do you recall what I said right after about institutions and what they could do?

>Yeah and I fail to see how any good came of it


It solved the National Question within the USSR and was generally recieved positively by people that had formerly been subject to ethnic suppression.

>clearly its a biggie for the people being forced to move.

I mean it was an inconvenience, sure. But that's what we're talking about here, some people being inconvenienced so that institutions that can guarantee the safety of natives and black people can be established. That's a lot of juice for not a lot of squeeze.

>That doesn't justify any and all forms of unequal treatment in order to remedy the problem


Yes it does. Marx said so. Unequal treatment of unequal cases is the only to real equal treatment.

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Is there a name for that sensation when something so specific gets you so horny you get dizzy and start venting?

 No.555415

>>555409
lol, thought I was the only one. Who makes you feel like this?

 No.555422

>>555393
>everyone who disagrees with me is a sakaist

see what i mean

 No.555423

>>551460
Humanitarian aid. Good thing the increasinly disasterous effects of global warming, an increase in size and frequency of pandemics and more and more conflicts over depleting natural resources will make this one of the few industries to survive until the next dark age!
FUN!
https://www.marketplace.org/2014/08/11/humanitarian-crises-grow-so-does-aid-industry/

 No.555424

Intro to Theory: Is theory bullshit?

 No.555431

>>555393
Noone ITT is a Sakaiist though. I'm not a Sakaiist. I disagree with Sakai on the viability of 1st world revolution

 No.555439

>>555415
👉👈 girls doming

 No.555454

epic numbers are coming

 No.555472

>>555401
>Not skin colour, but social conditioning through a white supremacist society that has instilled in settlers
Attitudes which anybody can see are not universal among white people, and hence it would not be justifiable to generalize and kick them all out. This isn't even taking into account how a socialist revolution both presupposes and would produce a major decline in settler ideology.
>We can't let white supremacist violence scare us.
What violence? You yourself said that White people would get a home in the former 13 colonies, and that they should have the ability to rehome others. So do you not also recognize the possibility thay reciprocal rehomings could just result in segregation? Or we could guarantee universal protection from racial discrimination and actively repress any such notions.
>Do you recall what I said right after about institutions and what they could do?
You talk as if racialized people are incapable of building institutional power if they have to share these institutions with white people. However having racialized homelands does nothing to aid in this endeavor, and this is shown by the fact that many racialized groups hold and held power in their own communities, which were unable to translate into power at the national level. Even if it grants them power in their own communities, this is useless without corresponding power at the national level, something which, because they are a minority, can only ultimately be achieved with the support of the white population and the dismantling of racist ideology. In other words, the success of your entire scheme STILL hinges on the destruction of racist ideology, which tbh makes the entire thing superfluous.
>It solved the National Question within the USSR
No, the creation of union and autonomous republics solved that problem. The deportations accomplished nothing apart from instilling anti-Soviet sentiments in the targeted populations. Once again, I have never seen anything to suggest that either union or autonomous republics had the power to deport different ethnicities whenever they wanted for whatever reason they saw fit. So don't try to draw an equivalence between what you are proposing and what the Soviets did.
>But that's what we're talking about here, some people being inconvenienced so that institutions that can guarantee the safety of natives and black people can be established.
The only way you would think that such a measure would be necessary to guarantee the safety of minorities is if you literally think that they are incapable of living alongside whites, or that whites constitute a danger merely by existing. Otherwise the correct response to any remaining racist violence would be to go after the individual perpetrators, put them on trial, and if convicted then punish them, perhaps with deportation of exile. An autonomous republic does not need the power of arbitrary deportation to do this.
>I mean it was an inconvenience, sure.
Uprooting your entire fucking life is much more than an inconvenience holy shit. You really must be 15 if I actually have to explain to you why being forced to move your entire family and community against your will and on the basis of your ethnicity is much more than an "inconvenience" and will anger many, many people.
>Yes it does. Marx said so. Unequal treatment of unequal cases is the only to real equal treatment.
Again, for somebody who uses a Maoist flag you have a really poor understanding of his theory. The contradictions between workers and capitalists are antagonistic, they can only be resolved by the destruction of one by the other. The contradiction between different races of workers are non-antagonistic, meaning they can and must be resolved to the mutual benefit of all involved. Hence the two are qualitatively different, and any attempt to resolve a non-antagonistic contradiction in a way which intensifies rather than lessens the antagonism is by definition counterproductive. Now call me crazy, but I'm thoroughly convinced that allowing any racial group a free hand to engage in discrimination and deportation of another racial group is far more likely to intensify the contradiction rather than resolve it. If you agree that such a thing is undesirable, if you agree that it's unlikely to happen, then give me a reason why we should go out of our way to make it legal by having an exemption in anti-discrimination and racial equality laws.

 No.555478

>>555328
>yeah, not very convincing whitey.
White anarcho-bitch literally coping since can't believe Africans have an opinion of their own


>>555310
>it says something about no one but you that you would take this discussion so personally and assume that we must be too.
<African takes conversation that involves his own dignity personal
Luckily you white rational non-empathic logic bitch are here unconcerned by the suffering of those that America oppresses to this day.

>>555324
>Get the hint, sakaist.
Literal dialogue loop, ask the pentagon for some new talking points.

Board filled with class traitors defending their imperial overlords for nothing.

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>>555454
Action is coming

 No.555553

>>555472
>Attitudes which anybody can see are not universal among white people

They wouldn't have to be, they'd just have to be generally wide-spread amongst them, and they are.

>This isn't even taking into account how a socialist revolution both presupposes and would produce a major decline in settler ideology.


Nop. Settler proles can easily rebel against their bourg overlords without a single decline in their commitment to white supremacy.

>What violence?


The violence of reciprocal deportations. The difference in contexts there are pretty obvious.

>this is shown by the fact that many racialized groups hold and held power in their own communities, which were unable to translate into power at the national level.


But it doesn't have to. My argument isn't that this fixes white-supremacy in society in general or will get black or native people into national leadership roles, because there is no way to ensure this unless you reserve such positions for them in the constitution (which I would also support), the point here is to make places where black and natives people can go to escape discrimination if it still exists in the general national structure, and give them institutions which they can utilize against the state if that state should infringe upon them as a community.

>Even if it grants them power in their own communities, this is useless without corresponding power at the national level


What? No not useless. These are organized institutions by which Natives and black people can go and get organized if society in general does not give up on discrimination against them. Of course we also have to struggle to lake society in general less racist, that's granted, no one denies that.
But there needs to be institutional guarantees for black and native people if that fails, otherwise there is literally nothing to guarantee their security and no means by which they can organize.

>The deportations accomplished nothing apart from instilling anti-Soviet sentiments in the targeted populations.


Proofs? Aren't the poles a lot more angry at the USSR than the Germans? Do Kazakhs hate the USSR more than Ukrainians?

>Once again, I have never seen anything to suggest that either union or autonomous republics had the power to deport different ethnicities whenever they wanted for whatever reason they saw fit. So don't try to draw an equivalence between what you are proposing and what the Soviets did.


But rehomings happened, so whether the ASSR took that decision or asked the USSR to do it and it then ordered those rehomings on behalf of the ASSR is a little immaterial. It was a solution to the national question in Eastern Europe and a way to end some of the tensions born from settler colonialism.

>The only way you would think that such a measure would be necessary to guarantee the safety of minorities is if you literally think that they are incapable of living alongside whites, or that whites constitute a danger merely by existing


No it follows from the already established fact that there's no guarantee that white supremacy can be dismantled before fFALC, as before then Settlers would have an incentive to uphold the already established mechanisms of White Supremacy to gain an edge towards the limited amount of higher-end jobs and government positions.
As such, Black and Native people cannot ever be safe within white society before it is thoroughly decolonized and white supremacy is dismantled in totality. Until then, they need somewhere to be safe, because they won't necesarrily be within white society.

>Uprooting your entire fucking life is much more than an inconvenience holy shit.


I've done it a few times in my life, voluntarily even. Sure it's a hassle, but it was in no way comparable to genocide or what other ethnicities have gone through when being deported. As such the comparison falls flat.

Now consider on top of that also being compensated with free new homes and jobs-guarantees, and the only real consequence for those rehomed is slight inconvenience.

>The contradiction between different races of workers are non-antagonistic


No, the antagonism between colonizers and colonized ARE antagonistic. Settlers MUST be liquidated as a class and white supremacy dismantled before the antagonism is solved. That means that settler-power and white supremacy must be taken away from settlers, there is no mutual benefit on that vector - it's a zero-sum game where settlers benefit from the subjugation of native and black communities. It's one of wealth transfer and power-dynamics and as such it is not just the tension between two ethnicities, it's a question of one ethnicity that dominates and extracts wealth and privilege from another.

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get

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>>555555
i am going to fucking GET you

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 No.555563

>>555555
>no juche
what a letdown

 No.555566

>>555439
Hot. I like to see guys being domed by women.
There's a guy I like that likes to be dommed by his gf. I think if I saw that live, I might simultaneously cum and faint, possibly die.

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>>555555
ACTION! ACTION! ACTION! ACTION!

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>>555555
fuckin gonzaloids

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 No.555592

>>555555

Jesus what a fucking waste

 No.555595

>>555555
FARO QUE ALUMBRA LA HUMANIDAD

Fucking MLMpM KEK

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>>555555
get OUT

 No.555607

>>555555
I was patiently waiting for this

 No.555608

>>555439
>>555566
>>555591
>>555597
I especially like girls who dome nazis.

 No.555615

Having read up a bit on how the Texans football program (NFL) works, it seems like a pretty cut and dry case of affirmative action not working, but not in a direction that you would expect. They overhauled their system to mostly include christian types who aren't exactly actually good at making calls or getting good trades in the NFL and that have left them from being a decently above average team with playoff hopes to being the bottom wrung of a shitty division.

 No.555627

>>555608
>tfw no soviet sniper mommy gf
Feels sad man

 No.555661

>>554517
Here's the video Maupin is talking about around 1:53:00.

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>>555608
Fuck it, this is a guerrilla girls thread now.

 No.555748

>>555661
British Pathé has a lot of gems if you search for "communists".

https://www.youtube.com/c/britishpathe/search?query=communists

 No.555753

>>555615
lol

This is why it's great to be a Cowboy

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The based drama alert

 No.555767

>>555763
tfw keemstar is a succesful, energetic and charismatic streamer, and now a comrade.

With just ONE tweet dude played Haz game and fucking owned it.

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 No.555770

>>555769
>denouncing opportunists
wtf he really is based

 No.555771

>>555763
>>555767
>Simping for a dumbass rightoid because he said ONE good thing
Fucking hell lads

 No.555798

>>553335
Maupin openly supports ethnostates run by Black Americans

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>>555553
>It's one of wealth transfer and power-dynamics and as such it is not just the tension between two ethnicities, it's a question of one ethnicity that dominates and extracts wealth and privilege from another.
Your entire concept of ethnic autonomy presupposes an arrangement wherein the group in question is made the majority, and locally controls its economy and political apparatus. Hence it is a situation in which the settler-colonized relationship (which in reality is just a worker-capitalist relationship filtered through your race-essentialist brainworms) has already been liquidated. Thus white people living in these areas are by definition no longer colonizers (not that most of them were to begin with), and there could then be no justification for stripping them of their right to be protected from discrimination. Therefore the antagonistic colonizer-colonized contradiction would already be sublated into a non-antagonistic racial contradiction, one which can and must be overcome through mutually beneficial relations, solidarity, and unity. Any action which is counterproductive to this end (such as say, legalizing segregation), would therefore be counterrevolutionary. So your own proposal actually renders your position on legalizing discrimination unjustifiable.

Alternatively, the contradiction could be addressed by doing the exact opposite of what you suggest. By taking measures to ensure that different racial groups are as closely mixed as possible, thereby abolishing any geographic distinction between the communities and making the exploitation of one ethnic community by another virtually impossible without de jure racial oppression.

 No.555848

>>555771
noooooooo you have to agree with me on everything!!!!!!

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This is probably slowpoke.jpg but apparently Christman got divorced some months back
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